<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_12_1916247</id>
	<title>New Superconductor World Record Surpasses 250K</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1255340220000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>myrrdyn writes to tell us that a <a href='http://www.superconductors.org/254K.htm'>new superconductivity record high</a> of 254 Kelvin (-19C, -2F) has been recorded.  According to the article this is the first time a superconductive state has been observed at a temperature comparable to a household freezer.  <i>"This achievement was accomplished by combining two previously successful structure types: the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223. The chemical elements remain the same as those used in the 242K material announced in May 2009. The host compound has the formula (Tl4Ba)Ba2Ca2Cu7Oy and is believed to attain 254K superconductivity when a 9223 structure forms"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>myrrdyn writes to tell us that a new superconductivity record high of 254 Kelvin ( -19C , -2F ) has been recorded .
According to the article this is the first time a superconductive state has been observed at a temperature comparable to a household freezer .
" This achievement was accomplished by combining two previously successful structure types : the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223 .
The chemical elements remain the same as those used in the 242K material announced in May 2009 .
The host compound has the formula ( Tl4Ba ) Ba2Ca2Cu7Oy and is believed to attain 254K superconductivity when a 9223 structure forms "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>myrrdyn writes to tell us that a new superconductivity record high of 254 Kelvin (-19C, -2F) has been recorded.
According to the article this is the first time a superconductive state has been observed at a temperature comparable to a household freezer.
"This achievement was accomplished by combining two previously successful structure types: the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223.
The chemical elements remain the same as those used in the 242K material announced in May 2009.
The host compound has the formula (Tl4Ba)Ba2Ca2Cu7Oy and is believed to attain 254K superconductivity when a 9223 structure forms"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725315</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>sofar</author>
	<datestamp>1255346520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're not judging the scientific value, but the presentation instead.</p><p>Many wild and ingenious scientific discoveries have been produced with less pretty and less well-documented publications. Perhaps it would be best to review the data instead?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're not judging the scientific value , but the presentation instead.Many wild and ingenious scientific discoveries have been produced with less pretty and less well-documented publications .
Perhaps it would be best to review the data instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're not judging the scientific value, but the presentation instead.Many wild and ingenious scientific discoveries have been produced with less pretty and less well-documented publications.
Perhaps it would be best to review the data instead?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29729047</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>Thanshin</author>
	<datestamp>1255376460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only question remaining is: Why isn't it being done already? If I were a poor African state, (preferably with a desert) I'd put a big plant into that desert, and tell the oil and other industries, that they can go fuck themselves, because now I'm free! ^^<br>Then I'd start exporting energy and technology.</p></div><p>Actually, you'd probably start importing bombs. By the "air delivery" method. And then, soldiers. And then you'd switch to a more free and democratically elected governor, who would sensibly go back to oil and coal.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only question remaining is : Why is n't it being done already ?
If I were a poor African state , ( preferably with a desert ) I 'd put a big plant into that desert , and tell the oil and other industries , that they can go fuck themselves , because now I 'm free !
^ ^ Then I 'd start exporting energy and technology.Actually , you 'd probably start importing bombs .
By the " air delivery " method .
And then , soldiers .
And then you 'd switch to a more free and democratically elected governor , who would sensibly go back to oil and coal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only question remaining is: Why isn't it being done already?
If I were a poor African state, (preferably with a desert) I'd put a big plant into that desert, and tell the oil and other industries, that they can go fuck themselves, because now I'm free!
^^Then I'd start exporting energy and technology.Actually, you'd probably start importing bombs.
By the "air delivery" method.
And then, soldiers.
And then you'd switch to a more free and democratically elected governor, who would sensibly go back to oil and coal.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29726031</id>
	<title>"Believed"?!</title>
	<author>BigBadBus</author>
	<datestamp>1255350000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh my word!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh my word !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh my word!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29734293</id>
	<title>Re:Simply generate electricity locally.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255459620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>5. Wind -- useful wind -- isn't found everywhere, and often not that near urban centers.  Many people find the plants unattractive [...]</p></div><p>Personally I find them magnificent and I would have no problem living near one as long as it is reasonably silent and does not project moving shadows directly into my room. But then again, I'm an engineer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>5 .
Wind -- useful wind -- is n't found everywhere , and often not that near urban centers .
Many people find the plants unattractive [ ... ] Personally I find them magnificent and I would have no problem living near one as long as it is reasonably silent and does not project moving shadows directly into my room .
But then again , I 'm an engineer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>5.
Wind -- useful wind -- isn't found everywhere, and often not that near urban centers.
Many people find the plants unattractive [...]Personally I find them magnificent and I would have no problem living near one as long as it is reasonably silent and does not project moving shadows directly into my room.
But then again, I'm an engineer.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725609</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255347720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What if there's no evidence to support it because all the evidence is slowly being taken out......</p><p>*queue x-files theme*</p><p>Enjoy the rest of your day, conspiracy theorist.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What if there 's no evidence to support it because all the evidence is slowly being taken out...... * queue x-files theme * Enjoy the rest of your day , conspiracy theorist .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if there's no evidence to support it because all the evidence is slowly being taken out......*queue x-files theme*Enjoy the rest of your day, conspiracy theorist.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29726103</id>
	<title>This reminds me...</title>
	<author>tubeguy</author>
	<datestamp>1255350480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...of Fleischmann/Pons.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...of Fleischmann/Pons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...of Fleischmann/Pons.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725477</id>
	<title>Missing tag</title>
	<author>barakn</author>
	<datestamp>1255347060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where's the bullshit tag?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's the bullshit tag ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's the bullshit tag?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725011</id>
	<title>That's hot!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255344960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cool stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cool stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cool stuff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725385</id>
	<title>Wow... if its true</title>
	<author>physburn</author>
	<datestamp>1255346700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is so close to room temperature, and could be used with standard refrigation no need from liquid nitrogen anymore. Room Temperature Superconductors
would completely change modern electronics and electromechanics. Motors and Generators waste lots of power, and RTS would be near 100\% efficients, (
infinite conductiving only applies for constant currents, there is resistance to changes in currents in a superconductors).
<p>
The linked page, looks like its from a amature research group, and none of the earlier results, from 200Ks up, have been confirmed in the mainstream. The offical
world record temperature is 138K, still in liquid nitrogen range.
</p><p>
----
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.feeddistiller.com/blogs/SuperConductors/feed.html" title="feeddistiller.com">Super Conductor</a> [feeddistiller.com] feed @ <a href="http://www.feeddistiller.com/" title="feeddistiller.com">Feed Distiller</a> [feeddistiller.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is so close to room temperature , and could be used with standard refrigation no need from liquid nitrogen anymore .
Room Temperature Superconductors would completely change modern electronics and electromechanics .
Motors and Generators waste lots of power , and RTS would be near 100 \ % efficients , ( infinite conductiving only applies for constant currents , there is resistance to changes in currents in a superconductors ) .
The linked page , looks like its from a amature research group , and none of the earlier results , from 200Ks up , have been confirmed in the mainstream .
The offical world record temperature is 138K , still in liquid nitrogen range .
---- Super Conductor [ feeddistiller.com ] feed @ Feed Distiller [ feeddistiller.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is so close to room temperature, and could be used with standard refrigation no need from liquid nitrogen anymore.
Room Temperature Superconductors
would completely change modern electronics and electromechanics.
Motors and Generators waste lots of power, and RTS would be near 100\% efficients, (
infinite conductiving only applies for constant currents, there is resistance to changes in currents in a superconductors).
The linked page, looks like its from a amature research group, and none of the earlier results, from 200Ks up, have been confirmed in the mainstream.
The offical
world record temperature is 138K, still in liquid nitrogen range.
----

Super Conductor [feeddistiller.com] feed @ Feed Distiller [feeddistiller.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29727891</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255362540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>you better be on the front page of a rushed to print edition of Nature that someone just ran down the hall to shove in my hand....</p></div><p>Nature is not a cutting edge journal. A lot of what they report is often 'old' science (a couple months or a review paper behind the times). If you have something important to publish, you send it to Physical Review Letters or Applied Physics Letters, or something else of the like.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>you better be on the front page of a rushed to print edition of Nature that someone just ran down the hall to shove in my hand....Nature is not a cutting edge journal .
A lot of what they report is often 'old ' science ( a couple months or a review paper behind the times ) .
If you have something important to publish , you send it to Physical Review Letters or Applied Physics Letters , or something else of the like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you better be on the front page of a rushed to print edition of Nature that someone just ran down the hall to shove in my hand....Nature is not a cutting edge journal.
A lot of what they report is often 'old' science (a couple months or a review paper behind the times).
If you have something important to publish, you send it to Physical Review Letters or Applied Physics Letters, or something else of the like.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725113</id>
	<title>Bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255345440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You want me to believe a wildly high superconductor Tc claim using a link to a shady website that looks like it was designed in 1996, without any link to a paper or an author, without any reference to where the discovery was made, without any notes about secondary confirmation, without any other reference in the media except one lamo blog and without any real formal publication at all? Here's what every physicist reading this article right now is thinking: STFU. If you get a near room temp Tc superconductor working, you better be on the front page of a rushed to print edition of Nature that someone just ran down the hall to shove in my hand, or I'm not even going to give you the time of day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You want me to believe a wildly high superconductor Tc claim using a link to a shady website that looks like it was designed in 1996 , without any link to a paper or an author , without any reference to where the discovery was made , without any notes about secondary confirmation , without any other reference in the media except one lamo blog and without any real formal publication at all ?
Here 's what every physicist reading this article right now is thinking : STFU .
If you get a near room temp Tc superconductor working , you better be on the front page of a rushed to print edition of Nature that someone just ran down the hall to shove in my hand , or I 'm not even going to give you the time of day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You want me to believe a wildly high superconductor Tc claim using a link to a shady website that looks like it was designed in 1996, without any link to a paper or an author, without any reference to where the discovery was made, without any notes about secondary confirmation, without any other reference in the media except one lamo blog and without any real formal publication at all?
Here's what every physicist reading this article right now is thinking: STFU.
If you get a near room temp Tc superconductor working, you better be on the front page of a rushed to print edition of Nature that someone just ran down the hall to shove in my hand, or I'm not even going to give you the time of day.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725277</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>ZonkerWilliam</author>
	<datestamp>1255346340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Scouring the Internet, there's absolutely no published article in any of the valid peer reviewed sites for this. If I had mod points I would have modded you "insightful":)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Scouring the Internet , there 's absolutely no published article in any of the valid peer reviewed sites for this .
If I had mod points I would have modded you " insightful " : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scouring the Internet, there's absolutely no published article in any of the valid peer reviewed sites for this.
If I had mod points I would have modded you "insightful":)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29730303</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255438260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is Slashdot, who cares about facts when we can distort it to something to do with copyright/patent.</p><p>From TFA<br>"This discovery is being released into the public domain without patent protection in order to encourage additional research."</p><p>Talk about an article trying to appease to the Slashdot crowd, not only that but they highlight the words and the website looks like it is from 1999.</p><p>Obsessing over too much patent/copyright articles has become a mental stress for many around here.</p><p>Still like this place though, just the hay days of the computer industry are over for most techs as their jobs move to cheaper areas</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is Slashdot , who cares about facts when we can distort it to something to do with copyright/patent.From TFA " This discovery is being released into the public domain without patent protection in order to encourage additional research .
" Talk about an article trying to appease to the Slashdot crowd , not only that but they highlight the words and the website looks like it is from 1999.Obsessing over too much patent/copyright articles has become a mental stress for many around here.Still like this place though , just the hay days of the computer industry are over for most techs as their jobs move to cheaper areas</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is Slashdot, who cares about facts when we can distort it to something to do with copyright/patent.From TFA"This discovery is being released into the public domain without patent protection in order to encourage additional research.
"Talk about an article trying to appease to the Slashdot crowd, not only that but they highlight the words and the website looks like it is from 1999.Obsessing over too much patent/copyright articles has become a mental stress for many around here.Still like this place though, just the hay days of the computer industry are over for most techs as their jobs move to cheaper areas</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29724919</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255344600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I too have a vision. It involves electricity becoming mondo-expensive and people switching to energy saving devices en-masse. Governments around the world turning to nuclear, and where convenient, hydro and air power, not because they have low carbon emissions (that's only a plus), but because they are actually cheaper! People finally turning away from 1800's oil and coal based technologies and moving, triumphantly towards 1950's engineering solutions!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I too have a vision .
It involves electricity becoming mondo-expensive and people switching to energy saving devices en-masse .
Governments around the world turning to nuclear , and where convenient , hydro and air power , not because they have low carbon emissions ( that 's only a plus ) , but because they are actually cheaper !
People finally turning away from 1800 's oil and coal based technologies and moving , triumphantly towards 1950 's engineering solutions !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I too have a vision.
It involves electricity becoming mondo-expensive and people switching to energy saving devices en-masse.
Governments around the world turning to nuclear, and where convenient, hydro and air power, not because they have low carbon emissions (that's only a plus), but because they are actually cheaper!
People finally turning away from 1800's oil and coal based technologies and moving, triumphantly towards 1950's engineering solutions!
!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29727965</id>
	<title>Unit Conversion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255363200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just to put it into common terms, -2F is about a thousand times warmer than my ex-wife's soul.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just to put it into common terms , -2F is about a thousand times warmer than my ex-wife 's soul .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just to put it into common terms, -2F is about a thousand times warmer than my ex-wife's soul.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29727063</id>
	<title>It Must Be Said</title>
	<author>hyades1</author>
	<datestamp>1255356120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> If they build a heart valve out if this stuff, my ex might actually wind up living forever. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they build a heart valve out if this stuff , my ex might actually wind up living forever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> If they build a heart valve out if this stuff, my ex might actually wind up living forever. </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725891</id>
	<title>1223</title>
	<author>MrKaos</author>
	<datestamp>1255349400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's the new 133t.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the new 133t .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the new 133t.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29726577</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255353000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In your solar plant: you don't heat a tube of water, but a tub of oil that doesn't change state during the process.  Much more efficient.   California has a powerplant that works this way, providing base load power (it burns natural gas when the solar power falls off, but in practice is &gt;90\% solar) for decades now.  Beats me why we don't build more of them, but then it's California so rationality doesn't come into play.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In your solar plant : you do n't heat a tube of water , but a tub of oil that does n't change state during the process .
Much more efficient .
California has a powerplant that works this way , providing base load power ( it burns natural gas when the solar power falls off , but in practice is &gt; 90 \ % solar ) for decades now .
Beats me why we do n't build more of them , but then it 's California so rationality does n't come into play .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In your solar plant: you don't heat a tube of water, but a tub of oil that doesn't change state during the process.
Much more efficient.
California has a powerplant that works this way, providing base load power (it burns natural gas when the solar power falls off, but in practice is &gt;90\% solar) for decades now.
Beats me why we don't build more of them, but then it's California so rationality doesn't come into play.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725117</id>
	<title>Simply generate electricity locally.</title>
	<author>earls</author>
	<datestamp>1255345440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why waste all the time, money and materials to drag out miles upon miles of superconducting "wire" to get from the generation site to the end user?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why waste all the time , money and materials to drag out miles upon miles of superconducting " wire " to get from the generation site to the end user ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why waste all the time, money and materials to drag out miles upon miles of superconducting "wire" to get from the generation site to the end user?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725299</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255346400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But it's on the INTERNET, it HAS to be true!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But it 's on the INTERNET , it HAS to be true !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it's on the INTERNET, it HAS to be true!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725111</id>
	<title>"Antarctica is Cold Enough"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255345440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>...makes you think, doesn't it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...makes you think , does n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...makes you think, doesn't it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725621</id>
	<title>Production..</title>
	<author>GammaStream</author>
	<datestamp>1255347780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is great but unless you manufacture the compound in large quantities commercially in a form that is useable e.g. a wire, it isn't going to make much difference to the average person in the street. I would imagine that is still decades away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is great but unless you manufacture the compound in large quantities commercially in a form that is useable e.g .
a wire , it is n't going to make much difference to the average person in the street .
I would imagine that is still decades away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is great but unless you manufacture the compound in large quantities commercially in a form that is useable e.g.
a wire, it isn't going to make much difference to the average person in the street.
I would imagine that is still decades away.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29730311</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1255438440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm nothing related to this field, but my google-fu is strong today.<br> <br> <a href="http://superconductors.org/terms.htm" title="superconductors.org">This article</a> [superconductors.org] (bottom of page) explains the 4-number notation to represent numbers of insulating, spacing, separating, and conducting layers. It even has a picture.<br> <br>No, I have no idea what that means. I can guess at what the fourth number means, though...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm nothing related to this field , but my google-fu is strong today .
This article [ superconductors.org ] ( bottom of page ) explains the 4-number notation to represent numbers of insulating , spacing , separating , and conducting layers .
It even has a picture .
No , I have no idea what that means .
I can guess at what the fourth number means , though.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm nothing related to this field, but my google-fu is strong today.
This article [superconductors.org] (bottom of page) explains the 4-number notation to represent numbers of insulating, spacing, separating, and conducting layers.
It even has a picture.
No, I have no idea what that means.
I can guess at what the fourth number means, though...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725227</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725275</id>
	<title>Don't buy shares yet. :)</title>
	<author>argent</author>
	<datestamp>1255346280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a long way from practicality, particularly for applications requiring bulk materials. They don't say what fraction of the material was superconducting, just that it was low, and the compound itself is pretty unstable: <i>"The copper-oxides are strongly hygroscopic. All tests should be performed immediately after annealing."</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a long way from practicality , particularly for applications requiring bulk materials .
They do n't say what fraction of the material was superconducting , just that it was low , and the compound itself is pretty unstable : " The copper-oxides are strongly hygroscopic .
All tests should be performed immediately after annealing .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a long way from practicality, particularly for applications requiring bulk materials.
They don't say what fraction of the material was superconducting, just that it was low, and the compound itself is pretty unstable: "The copper-oxides are strongly hygroscopic.
All tests should be performed immediately after annealing.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29726089</id>
	<title>Xbox 360?</title>
	<author>url00</author>
	<datestamp>1255350360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Achievement Unlocked:
50G - Combine two previously successful structure types.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Achievement Unlocked : 50G - Combine two previously successful structure types .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Achievement Unlocked:
50G - Combine two previously successful structure types.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725251</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>CarpetShark</author>
	<datestamp>1255346220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If we put solar panels across the desert, we'll need to have a transmission line to get it to places where people live.</p></div></blockquote><p>Sure we'll all be living in a desert by then anyway.  You know nothing, Jon Snow<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If we put solar panels across the desert , we 'll need to have a transmission line to get it to places where people live.Sure we 'll all be living in a desert by then anyway .
You know nothing , Jon Snow ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we put solar panels across the desert, we'll need to have a transmission line to get it to places where people live.Sure we'll all be living in a desert by then anyway.
You know nothing, Jon Snow ;)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29724807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725611</id>
	<title>Well, duh!</title>
	<author>ArcadeNut</author>
	<datestamp>1255347720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And here I was trying to combine 90210 with 8675309...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And here I was trying to combine 90210 with 8675309.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And here I was trying to combine 90210 with 8675309...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29724885</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>Ethanol-fueled</author>
	<datestamp>1255344480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The more energy we have, the cheaper transportation and food is which in turn lets people have more money for charity to help people who need food.</p></div><p>The more energy we have, the greedier the corporations controlling it will become. Constant rate hikes, cutting corners on infrastructure and safety, passing the costs of their own follies <a href="http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2009/oct/07/city-light-1/" title="sandiegoreader.com" rel="nofollow">onto their ratepayers</a> [sandiegoreader.com], creating artificial shortages a la OPEC, etc.<br> <br>

Your vision of a warm and fuzzy utopia will not happen until after a bloody proletarian revolt which will hopefully happen in another 10-20 years.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The more energy we have , the cheaper transportation and food is which in turn lets people have more money for charity to help people who need food.The more energy we have , the greedier the corporations controlling it will become .
Constant rate hikes , cutting corners on infrastructure and safety , passing the costs of their own follies onto their ratepayers [ sandiegoreader.com ] , creating artificial shortages a la OPEC , etc .
Your vision of a warm and fuzzy utopia will not happen until after a bloody proletarian revolt which will hopefully happen in another 10-20 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The more energy we have, the cheaper transportation and food is which in turn lets people have more money for charity to help people who need food.The more energy we have, the greedier the corporations controlling it will become.
Constant rate hikes, cutting corners on infrastructure and safety, passing the costs of their own follies onto their ratepayers [sandiegoreader.com], creating artificial shortages a la OPEC, etc.
Your vision of a warm and fuzzy utopia will not happen until after a bloody proletarian revolt which will hopefully happen in another 10-20 years.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29724807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29730165</id>
	<title>Re:Simply generate electricity locally.</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1255436460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>5. Wind<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... have a tendency to kill birds</p></div><p>I'm sure KFC thanks god every day for windmills distracting the tree huggers from their restaurants.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>5 .
Wind ... have a tendency to kill birdsI 'm sure KFC thanks god every day for windmills distracting the tree huggers from their restaurants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>5.
Wind ... have a tendency to kill birdsI'm sure KFC thanks god every day for windmills distracting the tree huggers from their restaurants.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725797</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725227</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>scorp1us</author>
	<datestamp>1255346040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>This achievement was accomplished by combining two previously successful structure types: the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223. The chemical elements remain the same as those used in the 242K material announced in May 2009. The host compound has the formula (Tl4Ba)Ba2Ca2Cu7Oy and is believed to attain 254K superconductivity when a 9223 structure forms</i></p><p>Ok. I now physics and chemistry. But WHAT? Those numbers make no sense, and is about the most useless quote ever quoted on slashdot. And that's saying something.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This achievement was accomplished by combining two previously successful structure types : the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223 .
The chemical elements remain the same as those used in the 242K material announced in May 2009 .
The host compound has the formula ( Tl4Ba ) Ba2Ca2Cu7Oy and is believed to attain 254K superconductivity when a 9223 structure formsOk .
I now physics and chemistry .
But WHAT ?
Those numbers make no sense , and is about the most useless quote ever quoted on slashdot .
And that 's saying something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This achievement was accomplished by combining two previously successful structure types: the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223.
The chemical elements remain the same as those used in the 242K material announced in May 2009.
The host compound has the formula (Tl4Ba)Ba2Ca2Cu7Oy and is believed to attain 254K superconductivity when a 9223 structure formsOk.
I now physics and chemistry.
But WHAT?
Those numbers make no sense, and is about the most useless quote ever quoted on slashdot.
And that's saying something.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29732339</id>
	<title>Re:Simply generate electricity locally.</title>
	<author>hotkey</author>
	<datestamp>1255450860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wind [...] Many people find the plants unattractive, and they have a tendency to kill birds.</p> </div><p>Only the stupid ones!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wind [ ... ] Many people find the plants unattractive , and they have a tendency to kill birds .
Only the stupid ones !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wind [...] Many people find the plants unattractive, and they have a tendency to kill birds.
Only the stupid ones!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725797</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29726259</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>deglr6328</author>
	<datestamp>1255351200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>oh I think that's him alright. I accidentally replied to someone below posting the same link first and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....WOW I literally loled when that picture popped up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>oh I think that 's him alright .
I accidentally replied to someone below posting the same link first and ....WOW I literally loled when that picture popped up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>oh I think that's him alright.
I accidentally replied to someone below posting the same link first and ....WOW I literally loled when that picture popped up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725249</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29728785</id>
	<title>Re:Bad summary</title>
	<author>grcumb</author>
	<datestamp>1255371900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>What is "the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223?" And I don't believe there's an element known as Oy.</i> </p><p>When combined with the element Vey, it forms Exasperatium.</p></div><p>In nature, you see it most often in crystalline form sprinkled through kvetchite.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is " the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223 ?
" And I do n't believe there 's an element known as Oy .
When combined with the element Vey , it forms Exasperatium.In nature , you see it most often in crystalline form sprinkled through kvetchite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> What is "the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223?
" And I don't believe there's an element known as Oy.
When combined with the element Vey, it forms Exasperatium.In nature, you see it most often in crystalline form sprinkled through kvetchite.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725135</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725135</id>
	<title>Re:Bad summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255345620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>What is "the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223?" And I don't believe there's an element known as Oy.</i></p><p>When combined with the element Vey, it forms Exasperatium.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is " the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223 ?
" And I do n't believe there 's an element known as Oy.When combined with the element Vey , it forms Exasperatium .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is "the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223?
" And I don't believe there's an element known as Oy.When combined with the element Vey, it forms Exasperatium.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29724987</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725217</id>
	<title>in other news</title>
	<author>speculatrix</author>
	<datestamp>1255345980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>satan is reported to start funding his own superconductivity laboratory</htmltext>
<tokenext>satan is reported to start funding his own superconductivity laboratory</tokentext>
<sentencetext>satan is reported to start funding his own superconductivity laboratory</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29728135</id>
	<title>Re:Wow only -254K</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255364700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't know you could get negative Kelvins</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't know you could get negative Kelvins</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't know you could get negative Kelvins</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725479</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29730063</id>
	<title>Re:"Antarctica is Cold Enough"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255435080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah... Makes me think about terrorist plots involving a huge coil in the antarctic being charged up (probably by solar power, over the summer) to reverse the earth's magnetic field and make everything fly off.</p><p>It'll make a great movie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah... Makes me think about terrorist plots involving a huge coil in the antarctic being charged up ( probably by solar power , over the summer ) to reverse the earth 's magnetic field and make everything fly off.It 'll make a great movie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah... Makes me think about terrorist plots involving a huge coil in the antarctic being charged up (probably by solar power, over the summer) to reverse the earth's magnetic field and make everything fly off.It'll make a great movie.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725111</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29729637</id>
	<title>Yeah, right</title>
	<author>jandersen</author>
	<datestamp>1255428960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What leaves me slighty skeptic about this are the following considerations:</p><p>1. Previous high temperature superconductors have all operated below 110K, approx, the record being 138K; with a critical temperature of 254K we are talking a jump of some 140 degrees.</p><p>2. The site, www.superconductors.org, seems strangely anonymous for a scientific news medium; no affiliations, no references, nothing.</p><p>3. We haven't heard anything from anywhere else. If this was real, it would have been all over the national and international news media; we would see Nobel prizes pouring in, ecstatic world leaders dancing in the streets etc. Obama has been remarkably calm, as far as I can tell, so unless he is one cool dude, he is not ecstatic.</p><p>All in all, I don't think this is credible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What leaves me slighty skeptic about this are the following considerations : 1 .
Previous high temperature superconductors have all operated below 110K , approx , the record being 138K ; with a critical temperature of 254K we are talking a jump of some 140 degrees.2 .
The site , www.superconductors.org , seems strangely anonymous for a scientific news medium ; no affiliations , no references , nothing.3 .
We have n't heard anything from anywhere else .
If this was real , it would have been all over the national and international news media ; we would see Nobel prizes pouring in , ecstatic world leaders dancing in the streets etc .
Obama has been remarkably calm , as far as I can tell , so unless he is one cool dude , he is not ecstatic.All in all , I do n't think this is credible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What leaves me slighty skeptic about this are the following considerations:1.
Previous high temperature superconductors have all operated below 110K, approx, the record being 138K; with a critical temperature of 254K we are talking a jump of some 140 degrees.2.
The site, www.superconductors.org, seems strangely anonymous for a scientific news medium; no affiliations, no references, nothing.3.
We haven't heard anything from anywhere else.
If this was real, it would have been all over the national and international news media; we would see Nobel prizes pouring in, ecstatic world leaders dancing in the streets etc.
Obama has been remarkably calm, as far as I can tell, so unless he is one cool dude, he is not ecstatic.All in all, I don't think this is credible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29726673</id>
	<title>You have been deceived</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255353540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's easy to fall for such a well-constructed hoax. The abstract certainly looks real. But look deeper: that same guy has been announcing new world records every few months! He's been releasing out of his own site, never publishing any details, never linking to secondary confirmation.</p><p>Just look at the method of production: mix some raw ingredients, heat up, and you've got a superconductor!</p><p>Don't fall for it people. It's all a hoax. You have been deceived, go home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's easy to fall for such a well-constructed hoax .
The abstract certainly looks real .
But look deeper : that same guy has been announcing new world records every few months !
He 's been releasing out of his own site , never publishing any details , never linking to secondary confirmation.Just look at the method of production : mix some raw ingredients , heat up , and you 've got a superconductor ! Do n't fall for it people .
It 's all a hoax .
You have been deceived , go home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's easy to fall for such a well-constructed hoax.
The abstract certainly looks real.
But look deeper: that same guy has been announcing new world records every few months!
He's been releasing out of his own site, never publishing any details, never linking to secondary confirmation.Just look at the method of production: mix some raw ingredients, heat up, and you've got a superconductor!Don't fall for it people.
It's all a hoax.
You have been deceived, go home.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29727665</id>
	<title>Do I Have to Turn in My Geek Card?</title>
	<author>greenlead</author>
	<datestamp>1255360680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do I have to turn in my geek card now? I don't understand the summary.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do I have to turn in my geek card now ?
I do n't understand the summary .
: - (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do I have to turn in my geek card now?
I don't understand the summary.
:-(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725797</id>
	<title>Re:Simply generate electricity locally.</title>
	<author>pz</author>
	<datestamp>1255348920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why waste all the time, money and materials to drag out miles upon miles of superconducting "wire" to get from the generation site to the end user?</p></div><p>1. Solar plants are really big, and land is scarce and/or expensive near urban centers.  Few places on the surface of the earth have enough insolation (or, equivalently, the number of sunny days per year) to make solar effective, and they don't happen to be near urban centers.</p><p>2. Nuclear plants are big (land, again) and potentially dangerous, so are a bad idea to have near urban centers.</p><p>3. Hydro plants are wherever mother nature makes it advantageous to build them, which often isn't near urban centers.</p><p>4. Coal / oil / natural gas plants are large (land again), noisy, and pollute the air, so are best put away from urban centers.</p><p>5. Wind -- useful wind -- isn't found everywhere, and often not that near urban centers.  Many people find the plants unattractive, and they have a tendency to kill birds.  Lots of people don't want them near urban centers, even in the places where they might be useful.</p><p>So<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... in essentially every case, the power sources need to be placed some distance from the power drains.  And that's completely ignoring the fact that there is already a vast and sophisticated system for sharing load / supply across vastly separated parts of the country to compensate for variations in supply and demand.</p><p>High-power transmission lines are not going to go away, ever.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why waste all the time , money and materials to drag out miles upon miles of superconducting " wire " to get from the generation site to the end user ? 1 .
Solar plants are really big , and land is scarce and/or expensive near urban centers .
Few places on the surface of the earth have enough insolation ( or , equivalently , the number of sunny days per year ) to make solar effective , and they do n't happen to be near urban centers.2 .
Nuclear plants are big ( land , again ) and potentially dangerous , so are a bad idea to have near urban centers.3 .
Hydro plants are wherever mother nature makes it advantageous to build them , which often is n't near urban centers.4 .
Coal / oil / natural gas plants are large ( land again ) , noisy , and pollute the air , so are best put away from urban centers.5 .
Wind -- useful wind -- is n't found everywhere , and often not that near urban centers .
Many people find the plants unattractive , and they have a tendency to kill birds .
Lots of people do n't want them near urban centers , even in the places where they might be useful.So ... in essentially every case , the power sources need to be placed some distance from the power drains .
And that 's completely ignoring the fact that there is already a vast and sophisticated system for sharing load / supply across vastly separated parts of the country to compensate for variations in supply and demand.High-power transmission lines are not going to go away , ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why waste all the time, money and materials to drag out miles upon miles of superconducting "wire" to get from the generation site to the end user?1.
Solar plants are really big, and land is scarce and/or expensive near urban centers.
Few places on the surface of the earth have enough insolation (or, equivalently, the number of sunny days per year) to make solar effective, and they don't happen to be near urban centers.2.
Nuclear plants are big (land, again) and potentially dangerous, so are a bad idea to have near urban centers.3.
Hydro plants are wherever mother nature makes it advantageous to build them, which often isn't near urban centers.4.
Coal / oil / natural gas plants are large (land again), noisy, and pollute the air, so are best put away from urban centers.5.
Wind -- useful wind -- isn't found everywhere, and often not that near urban centers.
Many people find the plants unattractive, and they have a tendency to kill birds.
Lots of people don't want them near urban centers, even in the places where they might be useful.So ... in essentially every case, the power sources need to be placed some distance from the power drains.
And that's completely ignoring the fact that there is already a vast and sophisticated system for sharing load / supply across vastly separated parts of the country to compensate for variations in supply and demand.High-power transmission lines are not going to go away, ever.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29732067</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>GargamelSpaceman</author>
	<datestamp>1255449600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OUR (existing) network is 93\% efficient because we are too smart to have built ultrahigh capacity long distance copper transmission lines into it knowing copper's limitations.  If it had been possible to build infinite capacity low voltage power busses for probably less than the price of an oil pipeline, then the network would likely be designed far differently.  This is amazing.   This is going to be like a wire wrapped in a thermos going from coast to coast with refrigerators every mile or so.   Probably a few hundered volts at most.  I wonder if they will use DC or stick with three phase.  At the low voltages possible with superconductors ( why mess with high voltage when superconductors don't have losses anyway? )  This could be HUGE.   Unless I'm missing something, which I might be because I am not an expert.</htmltext>
<tokenext>OUR ( existing ) network is 93 \ % efficient because we are too smart to have built ultrahigh capacity long distance copper transmission lines into it knowing copper 's limitations .
If it had been possible to build infinite capacity low voltage power busses for probably less than the price of an oil pipeline , then the network would likely be designed far differently .
This is amazing .
This is going to be like a wire wrapped in a thermos going from coast to coast with refrigerators every mile or so .
Probably a few hundered volts at most .
I wonder if they will use DC or stick with three phase .
At the low voltages possible with superconductors ( why mess with high voltage when superconductors do n't have losses anyway ?
) This could be HUGE .
Unless I 'm missing something , which I might be because I am not an expert .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OUR (existing) network is 93\% efficient because we are too smart to have built ultrahigh capacity long distance copper transmission lines into it knowing copper's limitations.
If it had been possible to build infinite capacity low voltage power busses for probably less than the price of an oil pipeline, then the network would likely be designed far differently.
This is amazing.
This is going to be like a wire wrapped in a thermos going from coast to coast with refrigerators every mile or so.
Probably a few hundered volts at most.
I wonder if they will use DC or stick with three phase.
At the low voltages possible with superconductors ( why mess with high voltage when superconductors don't have losses anyway?
)  This could be HUGE.
Unless I'm missing something, which I might be because I am not an expert.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725899</id>
	<title>Undersea/underground cables?</title>
	<author>JSBiff</author>
	<datestamp>1255349400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if this superconductor is 'warm enough' that you could create practical underground/undersea conductors now? I mean, granted, it's not that cold underground, undersea, but this conductor is high-temperature enough that I suspect you could create a refrigerated 'housing' for the conductor, and manage to keep it cold enough underground or undersea. You wouldn't run the power the 'last mile' with such a superconductor, most likely, but perhaps refrigerated conductors would be suitable for connecting power plants to substations and other distant grids?</p><p>Now, why would you want such a superconductor? Because, wouldn't it be awesome, if you are an electric utility, to sell your 'off peak' electric capacity to another continent whose timezone puts them in 'peak demand' for that timezone, so that you get higher rate per hour than you do selling locally? (Granted, this doesn't help consumers any, but if you are a producer, this would sound like a no-brainer).  If you could cost effectively connect all the continents with a superconductive grid, a producer in North America could sell power to Hawaii, Japan and SE Asia, Europe, former Soviet Republics, Africa, wherever, and vice versa.</p><p>I hear Iceland has more geothermal power than they could use. I bet they'd *love* to export power (maybe they already do?).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if this superconductor is 'warm enough ' that you could create practical underground/undersea conductors now ?
I mean , granted , it 's not that cold underground , undersea , but this conductor is high-temperature enough that I suspect you could create a refrigerated 'housing ' for the conductor , and manage to keep it cold enough underground or undersea .
You would n't run the power the 'last mile ' with such a superconductor , most likely , but perhaps refrigerated conductors would be suitable for connecting power plants to substations and other distant grids ? Now , why would you want such a superconductor ?
Because , would n't it be awesome , if you are an electric utility , to sell your 'off peak ' electric capacity to another continent whose timezone puts them in 'peak demand ' for that timezone , so that you get higher rate per hour than you do selling locally ?
( Granted , this does n't help consumers any , but if you are a producer , this would sound like a no-brainer ) .
If you could cost effectively connect all the continents with a superconductive grid , a producer in North America could sell power to Hawaii , Japan and SE Asia , Europe , former Soviet Republics , Africa , wherever , and vice versa.I hear Iceland has more geothermal power than they could use .
I bet they 'd * love * to export power ( maybe they already do ?
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if this superconductor is 'warm enough' that you could create practical underground/undersea conductors now?
I mean, granted, it's not that cold underground, undersea, but this conductor is high-temperature enough that I suspect you could create a refrigerated 'housing' for the conductor, and manage to keep it cold enough underground or undersea.
You wouldn't run the power the 'last mile' with such a superconductor, most likely, but perhaps refrigerated conductors would be suitable for connecting power plants to substations and other distant grids?Now, why would you want such a superconductor?
Because, wouldn't it be awesome, if you are an electric utility, to sell your 'off peak' electric capacity to another continent whose timezone puts them in 'peak demand' for that timezone, so that you get higher rate per hour than you do selling locally?
(Granted, this doesn't help consumers any, but if you are a producer, this would sound like a no-brainer).
If you could cost effectively connect all the continents with a superconductive grid, a producer in North America could sell power to Hawaii, Japan and SE Asia, Europe, former Soviet Republics, Africa, wherever, and vice versa.I hear Iceland has more geothermal power than they could use.
I bet they'd *love* to export power (maybe they already do?
).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29729469</id>
	<title>Crap summary,</title>
	<author>CountBrass</author>
	<datestamp>1255425360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone else have the impression the author of the summary had no clue about the subject and just took the original document and threw away the words he understood to produce his gibberish summary?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone else have the impression the author of the summary had no clue about the subject and just took the original document and threw away the words he understood to produce his gibberish summary ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone else have the impression the author of the summary had no clue about the subject and just took the original document and threw away the words he understood to produce his gibberish summary?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725201</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255345860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually you don't need superconductors for this. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage\_direct\_current" title="wikipedia.org">High-voltage direct current</a> [wikipedia.org] transmission lines are very well capable of delivering electricity with high efficiency across long distance without superconductors. Existing projects, like the <a href="http://www.abb.com/cawp/gad02181/c1256d71001e0037c12568340029b5c4.aspx?&amp;opendatabase&amp;v=17ea&amp;e=us&amp;m=100a&amp;" title="abb.com">Quebec-New Englad transmission line</a> [abb.com] are capable of carrying &gt;2GW of electrical energy over distances of &gt;1100km. This is far more than even the largest photovoltaic power plant can generate today.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually you do n't need superconductors for this .
High-voltage direct current [ wikipedia.org ] transmission lines are very well capable of delivering electricity with high efficiency across long distance without superconductors .
Existing projects , like the Quebec-New Englad transmission line [ abb.com ] are capable of carrying &gt; 2GW of electrical energy over distances of &gt; 1100km .
This is far more than even the largest photovoltaic power plant can generate today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually you don't need superconductors for this.
High-voltage direct current [wikipedia.org] transmission lines are very well capable of delivering electricity with high efficiency across long distance without superconductors.
Existing projects, like the Quebec-New Englad transmission line [abb.com] are capable of carrying &gt;2GW of electrical energy over distances of &gt;1100km.
This is far more than even the largest photovoltaic power plant can generate today.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29757547</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>oni</author>
	<datestamp>1255622340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>you don't heat a tube of water, but a tub of oil</p></div><p>Actually, I believe the current state of the art is to use <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar\_thermal\_energy#Heat\_storage" title="wikipedia.org">sodium</a> [wikipedia.org].</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Beats me why we don't build more of them</p></div><p>In the past, industrialists were given tremendous power in society because of the economic benefits they produced. As a result, they didn't bother to take care of the environment and often created tremendous pollution. The pendulum has swung pretty far in the other direction and today environmentalists were given enormous power and it seems we can't build *anything*</p><p>We the people need to move the pendulum back a bit more to the center. We need leaders who say, "yes, I understand that this solar power plant is going to be built on the habitat of some lizard that nobody has ever heard of. I'm just completely sick about that, really. But it has to be done."</p></div>
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<tokenext>you do n't heat a tube of water , but a tub of oilActually , I believe the current state of the art is to use sodium [ wikipedia.org ] .Beats me why we do n't build more of themIn the past , industrialists were given tremendous power in society because of the economic benefits they produced .
As a result , they did n't bother to take care of the environment and often created tremendous pollution .
The pendulum has swung pretty far in the other direction and today environmentalists were given enormous power and it seems we ca n't build * anything * We the people need to move the pendulum back a bit more to the center .
We need leaders who say , " yes , I understand that this solar power plant is going to be built on the habitat of some lizard that nobody has ever heard of .
I 'm just completely sick about that , really .
But it has to be done .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you don't heat a tube of water, but a tub of oilActually, I believe the current state of the art is to use sodium [wikipedia.org].Beats me why we don't build more of themIn the past, industrialists were given tremendous power in society because of the economic benefits they produced.
As a result, they didn't bother to take care of the environment and often created tremendous pollution.
The pendulum has swung pretty far in the other direction and today environmentalists were given enormous power and it seems we can't build *anything*We the people need to move the pendulum back a bit more to the center.
We need leaders who say, "yes, I understand that this solar power plant is going to be built on the habitat of some lizard that nobody has ever heard of.
I'm just completely sick about that, really.
But it has to be done.
"
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29726477</id>
	<title>So what if...</title>
	<author>thaddeusthudpucker</author>
	<datestamp>1255352460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So what would happen if we used these superconductors as traces on say a motherboard?

Would it be faster/better?

We could just build it to put into a chest freezer. Also handy for cooling off the beer quickly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what would happen if we used these superconductors as traces on say a motherboard ?
Would it be faster/better ?
We could just build it to put into a chest freezer .
Also handy for cooling off the beer quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what would happen if we used these superconductors as traces on say a motherboard?
Would it be faster/better?
We could just build it to put into a chest freezer.
Also handy for cooling off the beer quickly.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725687</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1255348200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Solar panels are stupid right now. They require rare materials, are not very reliable, but very expensive.<br>The solution for right now are arrays of cheap, easily replacable mirrors that heat a tube of water so that it can drive turbines. Simple, reliable, and very cheap. And yo only need to fill i tiny tiny amount of some very dead desert with them.<br>I can't imagine anything beating that. You could build it right now even in the poorest regions of the world. Nearly out of trash.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br>I agree with the rest of the first vision though.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>The second one... well... tidal is bad, because it messes with nature for no reason (compared to above solution).<br>The rest is good.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>But I don't think we need any technological advancement at all, to make this come true. Everything except for being able to buy those high-temperature superconductive power lines, and for the acceptable solar cells, already exists and is used right now.<br>But we can simply use big traditional DC lines until then.<br>And as I said, we don't need solar cells.</p><p>The only question remaining is: Why isn't it being done already? If I were a poor African state, (preferably with a desert) I'd put a big plant into that desert, and tell the oil and other industries, that they can go fuck themselves, because now I'm free! ^^<br>Then I'd start exporting energy and technology.<br>Done right this would mean a boom for the whole country.<br>Then add ubiquitous Internet access, and before you know it, you're surpassing India and are the no 1 country in Africa.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Solar panels are stupid right now .
They require rare materials , are not very reliable , but very expensive.The solution for right now are arrays of cheap , easily replacable mirrors that heat a tube of water so that it can drive turbines .
Simple , reliable , and very cheap .
And yo only need to fill i tiny tiny amount of some very dead desert with them.I ca n't imagine anything beating that .
You could build it right now even in the poorest regions of the world .
Nearly out of trash .
: ) I agree with the rest of the first vision though .
: ) The second one... well... tidal is bad , because it messes with nature for no reason ( compared to above solution ) .The rest is good .
: ) But I do n't think we need any technological advancement at all , to make this come true .
Everything except for being able to buy those high-temperature superconductive power lines , and for the acceptable solar cells , already exists and is used right now.But we can simply use big traditional DC lines until then.And as I said , we do n't need solar cells.The only question remaining is : Why is n't it being done already ?
If I were a poor African state , ( preferably with a desert ) I 'd put a big plant into that desert , and tell the oil and other industries , that they can go fuck themselves , because now I 'm free !
^ ^ Then I 'd start exporting energy and technology.Done right this would mean a boom for the whole country.Then add ubiquitous Internet access , and before you know it , you 're surpassing India and are the no 1 country in Africa .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Solar panels are stupid right now.
They require rare materials, are not very reliable, but very expensive.The solution for right now are arrays of cheap, easily replacable mirrors that heat a tube of water so that it can drive turbines.
Simple, reliable, and very cheap.
And yo only need to fill i tiny tiny amount of some very dead desert with them.I can't imagine anything beating that.
You could build it right now even in the poorest regions of the world.
Nearly out of trash.
:)I agree with the rest of the first vision though.
:)The second one... well... tidal is bad, because it messes with nature for no reason (compared to above solution).The rest is good.
:)But I don't think we need any technological advancement at all, to make this come true.
Everything except for being able to buy those high-temperature superconductive power lines, and for the acceptable solar cells, already exists and is used right now.But we can simply use big traditional DC lines until then.And as I said, we don't need solar cells.The only question remaining is: Why isn't it being done already?
If I were a poor African state, (preferably with a desert) I'd put a big plant into that desert, and tell the oil and other industries, that they can go fuck themselves, because now I'm free!
^^Then I'd start exporting energy and technology.Done right this would mean a boom for the whole country.Then add ubiquitous Internet access, and before you know it, you're surpassing India and are the no 1 country in Africa.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29727017</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255355820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>High-voltage direct current</p></div><p>Is that you Edison? Look I already won the bet, so whatever you're trying to pull off here doesn't count.<br>
&nbsp; <br>Sincerely,<br>Nikolai<br>
&nbsp; <br>PS. Jackass DS.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>High-voltage direct currentIs that you Edison ?
Look I already won the bet , so whatever you 're trying to pull off here does n't count .
  Sincerely,Nikolai   PS .
Jackass DS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>High-voltage direct currentIs that you Edison?
Look I already won the bet, so whatever you're trying to pull off here doesn't count.
  Sincerely,Nikolai
  PS.
Jackass DS.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29724979</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255344780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our electrical transmission network is already 93\% efficient, significantly cheaper than the refrigeration needed to make this superconductor function.</p><p>Your idea lacks evidence of cognition, but is otherwise quite brilliant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our electrical transmission network is already 93 \ % efficient , significantly cheaper than the refrigeration needed to make this superconductor function.Your idea lacks evidence of cognition , but is otherwise quite brilliant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our electrical transmission network is already 93\% efficient, significantly cheaper than the refrigeration needed to make this superconductor function.Your idea lacks evidence of cognition, but is otherwise quite brilliant.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725249</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Timmmm</author>
	<datestamp>1255346160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree. No mention of a paper, or any corroboration. Is this guy ( <a href="http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view\_profile.php?userid=4422" title="berkeley.edu">http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view\_profile.php?userid=4422</a> [berkeley.edu] ) claiming that he's discovered it? By the way, comedy quote from that page:</p><p>"I think there is a strong possibility of extraterrestrial life based on a passage in the Bible. The Lord talks about gathering His creation from the ends of the Universe."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
No mention of a paper , or any corroboration .
Is this guy ( http : //setiathome.berkeley.edu/view \ _profile.php ? userid = 4422 [ berkeley.edu ] ) claiming that he 's discovered it ?
By the way , comedy quote from that page : " I think there is a strong possibility of extraterrestrial life based on a passage in the Bible .
The Lord talks about gathering His creation from the ends of the Universe .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
No mention of a paper, or any corroboration.
Is this guy ( http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view\_profile.php?userid=4422 [berkeley.edu] ) claiming that he's discovered it?
By the way, comedy quote from that page:"I think there is a strong possibility of extraterrestrial life based on a passage in the Bible.
The Lord talks about gathering His creation from the ends of the Universe.
"
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29728885</id>
	<title>Ugh.  I like to give people a chance, but. . .</title>
	<author>Fantastic Lad</author>
	<datestamp>1255373520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When your website is just a few font sizes shy of TimeCube, you've lost even me.</p><p>Insanity has a specific smell and that guy's site reeks of it.  It's different from manic-depressive, from which real and useful innovations can arise.  This guy just seems nuts.</p><p>But that's just the smell test.  If somebody can reproduce his findings in a meaningful way, I'd be the first in line to shake his hand.  Until then, I trust my nose.</p><p>-FL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When your website is just a few font sizes shy of TimeCube , you 've lost even me.Insanity has a specific smell and that guy 's site reeks of it .
It 's different from manic-depressive , from which real and useful innovations can arise .
This guy just seems nuts.But that 's just the smell test .
If somebody can reproduce his findings in a meaningful way , I 'd be the first in line to shake his hand .
Until then , I trust my nose.-FL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When your website is just a few font sizes shy of TimeCube, you've lost even me.Insanity has a specific smell and that guy's site reeks of it.
It's different from manic-depressive, from which real and useful innovations can arise.
This guy just seems nuts.But that's just the smell test.
If somebody can reproduce his findings in a meaningful way, I'd be the first in line to shake his hand.
Until then, I trust my nose.-FL</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29729379</id>
	<title>He created his webpage with...</title>
	<author>Nicopa</author>
	<datestamp>1255467480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He created his webpage with Netscape 3.0, running on Windows 95. Wow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He created his webpage with Netscape 3.0 , running on Windows 95 .
Wow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He created his webpage with Netscape 3.0, running on Windows 95.
Wow.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725825</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1255348980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh my. I looked at the site. And you were understating it.<br>It's ONE guy. I wonder who posted it on Slashdot. But.. Are they freakin' kidding?? Is that a joke?<br>Did he build some time-machine? That site looks <em>ancient</em>.<br>I'm a professional, and I nearly went blind.</p><p>Also with those "quotes" on his front page:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>"A great place to start learning about superconductors. Start here!"<br>- Arizona State University</p><p>One of "the top Internet education sites..."<br>- Innovative Teaching</p><p>"The best information online about superconductivity."<br>- Energy Science News</p><p>"Superlative...invaluable...endlessly informative."<br>- Netsurfer Science</p><p>"The greatest Superconductor site on earth."<br>- Michigan State University</p></div><p>Yeah right... I bet they are all... real... LOL.<br>He should replace his "Bichalk Best top 2\%" badge with a "cheesy AND fake sites top 2\%" badge.<br>Even if it's real, that site design destroys it all.</p><p>He could just as well be hosted on <a href="http://www.rasputin.de/CF/Jugend/" title="rasputin.de">rasputin.de</a> [rasputin.de] (funny fake homepages).</p></div>
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<tokenext>Oh my .
I looked at the site .
And you were understating it.It 's ONE guy .
I wonder who posted it on Slashdot .
But.. Are they freakin ' kidding ? ?
Is that a joke ? Did he build some time-machine ?
That site looks ancient.I 'm a professional , and I nearly went blind.Also with those " quotes " on his front page : " A great place to start learning about superconductors .
Start here !
" - Arizona State UniversityOne of " the top Internet education sites... " - Innovative Teaching " The best information online about superconductivity .
" - Energy Science News " Superlative...invaluable...endlessly informative .
" - Netsurfer Science " The greatest Superconductor site on earth .
" - Michigan State UniversityYeah right... I bet they are all... real... LOL.He should replace his " Bichalk Best top 2 \ % " badge with a " cheesy AND fake sites top 2 \ % " badge.Even if it 's real , that site design destroys it all.He could just as well be hosted on rasputin.de [ rasputin.de ] ( funny fake homepages ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh my.
I looked at the site.
And you were understating it.It's ONE guy.
I wonder who posted it on Slashdot.
But.. Are they freakin' kidding??
Is that a joke?Did he build some time-machine?
That site looks ancient.I'm a professional, and I nearly went blind.Also with those "quotes" on his front page:"A great place to start learning about superconductors.
Start here!
"- Arizona State UniversityOne of "the top Internet education sites..."- Innovative Teaching"The best information online about superconductivity.
"- Energy Science News"Superlative...invaluable...endlessly informative.
"- Netsurfer Science"The greatest Superconductor site on earth.
"- Michigan State UniversityYeah right... I bet they are all... real... LOL.He should replace his "Bichalk Best top 2\%" badge with a "cheesy AND fake sites top 2\%" badge.Even if it's real, that site design destroys it all.He could just as well be hosted on rasputin.de [rasputin.de] (funny fake homepages).
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29728305</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255366560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We get our electricity from that line.We pay nearly twice the national average for electricity: the Canadian company producing the electricity sells at full price as well as the local distributer (both owned by the same company).<br>I'm surprised that more New Englanders aren't upset about paying twice for electricity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We get our electricity from that line.We pay nearly twice the national average for electricity : the Canadian company producing the electricity sells at full price as well as the local distributer ( both owned by the same company ) .I 'm surprised that more New Englanders are n't upset about paying twice for electricity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We get our electricity from that line.We pay nearly twice the national average for electricity: the Canadian company producing the electricity sells at full price as well as the local distributer (both owned by the same company).I'm surprised that more New Englanders aren't upset about paying twice for electricity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725593</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>DualDescription</author>
	<datestamp>1255347660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This should be rather illuminating:

<a href="http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view\_profile.php?userid=4422" title="berkeley.edu" rel="nofollow">http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view\_profile.php?userid=4422</a> [berkeley.edu]</htmltext>
<tokenext>This should be rather illuminating : http : //setiathome.berkeley.edu/view \ _profile.php ? userid = 4422 [ berkeley.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This should be rather illuminating:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view\_profile.php?userid=4422 [berkeley.edu]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725051</id>
	<title>Possible applications</title>
	<author>rwade</author>
	<datestamp>1255345200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some cursory <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductor#Applications" title="wikipedia.org">research</a> [wikipedia.org] suggests the following applications:</p><p>-- electric motors, possibly for vehicle propulsion<br>-- maglev devices<br>-- magnetic refrigeration</p><p>It sounds to me like the primary application of superconductivity is in devices that incorporate magnets. Medical imaging devices like MRIs may also be affected by this discovery.</p><p>All of this is due to the fact that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting\_magnet" title="wikipedia.org">superdoncuting magnets produce stronger magnetic fields than conventional electromagnets and are cheaper to operate</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some cursory research [ wikipedia.org ] suggests the following applications : -- electric motors , possibly for vehicle propulsion-- maglev devices-- magnetic refrigerationIt sounds to me like the primary application of superconductivity is in devices that incorporate magnets .
Medical imaging devices like MRIs may also be affected by this discovery.All of this is due to the fact that superdoncuting magnets produce stronger magnetic fields than conventional electromagnets and are cheaper to operate [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some cursory research [wikipedia.org] suggests the following applications:-- electric motors, possibly for vehicle propulsion-- maglev devices-- magnetic refrigerationIt sounds to me like the primary application of superconductivity is in devices that incorporate magnets.
Medical imaging devices like MRIs may also be affected by this discovery.All of this is due to the fact that superdoncuting magnets produce stronger magnetic fields than conventional electromagnets and are cheaper to operate [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29729835</id>
	<title>Re:Simply generate electricity locally.</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1255431480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>2. Nuclear plants are big (land, again) and potentially dangerous, so are a bad idea to have near urban centers.</p></div><p>Note that that depends a lot on the type of nuclear plant.  The Japanese are currently experimenting with pebble bed reactors that can be placed in the basement of tall buildings and power a city block.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 .
Nuclear plants are big ( land , again ) and potentially dangerous , so are a bad idea to have near urban centers.Note that that depends a lot on the type of nuclear plant .
The Japanese are currently experimenting with pebble bed reactors that can be placed in the basement of tall buildings and power a city block .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2.
Nuclear plants are big (land, again) and potentially dangerous, so are a bad idea to have near urban centers.Note that that depends a lot on the type of nuclear plant.
The Japanese are currently experimenting with pebble bed reactors that can be placed in the basement of tall buildings and power a city block.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29726641</id>
	<title>sketchy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255353360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>wow, that is superbly sketch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>wow , that is superbly sketch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wow, that is superbly sketch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725389</id>
	<title>Crackpot?</title>
	<author>l2718</author>
	<datestamp>1255346700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This links to a website in which a private guy touts his own research.  There are a few references to publications by others but the alleged "discoverer" doesn't seem to have published any articles.  If this was legit he'd have plenty of paper in Nature, Science, PRL, Phys Rev A etc.  Can't the editors exercise a modicum of common sense?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This links to a website in which a private guy touts his own research .
There are a few references to publications by others but the alleged " discoverer " does n't seem to have published any articles .
If this was legit he 'd have plenty of paper in Nature , Science , PRL , Phys Rev A etc .
Ca n't the editors exercise a modicum of common sense ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This links to a website in which a private guy touts his own research.
There are a few references to publications by others but the alleged "discoverer" doesn't seem to have published any articles.
If this was legit he'd have plenty of paper in Nature, Science, PRL, Phys Rev A etc.
Can't the editors exercise a modicum of common sense?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29730237</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>jnikkel</author>
	<datestamp>1255437240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's pretty standard notation in the type II superconductor world.  The 4 digits refer to the relative stoichiometry of the various cells in the lattice.  I agree it's not too useful in this context.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's pretty standard notation in the type II superconductor world .
The 4 digits refer to the relative stoichiometry of the various cells in the lattice .
I agree it 's not too useful in this context .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's pretty standard notation in the type II superconductor world.
The 4 digits refer to the relative stoichiometry of the various cells in the lattice.
I agree it's not too useful in this context.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29735733</id>
	<title>NOT a superconductor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255466220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>to the inventor of this new "superconductor":</p><p>You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.</p><p>Sincerely,<br>
&nbsp; -Inigo Montoya</p><p>The plots of voltage measured across the sample do show a noticeable and possibly significant drop which occurs repeatably at a certain temperature.  As the inventor states himself, this drop is most likely due to a specific crystalline structure change occurring in the material.</p><p>Superconductivity occurs when the resistance of a substance drops suddenly to a value almost immeasurably greater than zero.The resistance of this new alloy does not drop to anywhere near zero, therefore it is NOT a superconductor at that temperature.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>to the inventor of this new " superconductor " : You keep using that word .
I do not think it means what you think it means.Sincerely ,   -Inigo MontoyaThe plots of voltage measured across the sample do show a noticeable and possibly significant drop which occurs repeatably at a certain temperature .
As the inventor states himself , this drop is most likely due to a specific crystalline structure change occurring in the material.Superconductivity occurs when the resistance of a substance drops suddenly to a value almost immeasurably greater than zero.The resistance of this new alloy does not drop to anywhere near zero , therefore it is NOT a superconductor at that temperature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to the inventor of this new "superconductor":You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.Sincerely,
  -Inigo MontoyaThe plots of voltage measured across the sample do show a noticeable and possibly significant drop which occurs repeatably at a certain temperature.
As the inventor states himself, this drop is most likely due to a specific crystalline structure change occurring in the material.Superconductivity occurs when the resistance of a substance drops suddenly to a value almost immeasurably greater than zero.The resistance of this new alloy does not drop to anywhere near zero, therefore it is NOT a superconductor at that temperature.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29724807</id>
	<title>A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255344000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you have some time to read, I'll explain my vision for the future:  If we put solar panels across the

desert, we'll need to have a transmission line to get it to places where people live.  I reason that a

super conductive line would do the trick.  It is costly in terms of energy to cool the lines, but if you

have an excess of energy to begin with, it could actually cost less than the loss of power you get in

copper lines.  Basically you just leech off the super conductive line for cooling.  <br> <br>
	The demand for energy will only increase with time regardless of conservation efforts, and this

isn't a bad thing.  The more energy we have, the cheaper transportation and food is which in turn lets

people have more money for charity to help people who need food.  So creating a surplus of energy soon

could have worldwide benefits instead of just keeping up with demand.  <br> <br>
I have a second vision that goes along with solar in the desert and superconductivity lines. It is

tidal/solar near the coast, to fuel up hydrogen tanker trucks.  These hydrogen tanker trucks could run on

hydrogen themselves and take the energy inland.  In the same processing plant that creates the hydrogen

from electricity, they could also produce clean water for countries that need that as a critical

resource.<br> <br>
Both of these visions takes a little bit of technological advancement, but not too much from what we have.

My key question would be:  Would this new superconductor be possible to mass produce, and could it be used

as a new transmission line?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have some time to read , I 'll explain my vision for the future : If we put solar panels across the desert , we 'll need to have a transmission line to get it to places where people live .
I reason that a super conductive line would do the trick .
It is costly in terms of energy to cool the lines , but if you have an excess of energy to begin with , it could actually cost less than the loss of power you get in copper lines .
Basically you just leech off the super conductive line for cooling .
The demand for energy will only increase with time regardless of conservation efforts , and this is n't a bad thing .
The more energy we have , the cheaper transportation and food is which in turn lets people have more money for charity to help people who need food .
So creating a surplus of energy soon could have worldwide benefits instead of just keeping up with demand .
I have a second vision that goes along with solar in the desert and superconductivity lines .
It is tidal/solar near the coast , to fuel up hydrogen tanker trucks .
These hydrogen tanker trucks could run on hydrogen themselves and take the energy inland .
In the same processing plant that creates the hydrogen from electricity , they could also produce clean water for countries that need that as a critical resource .
Both of these visions takes a little bit of technological advancement , but not too much from what we have .
My key question would be : Would this new superconductor be possible to mass produce , and could it be used as a new transmission line ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have some time to read, I'll explain my vision for the future:  If we put solar panels across the

desert, we'll need to have a transmission line to get it to places where people live.
I reason that a

super conductive line would do the trick.
It is costly in terms of energy to cool the lines, but if you

have an excess of energy to begin with, it could actually cost less than the loss of power you get in

copper lines.
Basically you just leech off the super conductive line for cooling.
The demand for energy will only increase with time regardless of conservation efforts, and this

isn't a bad thing.
The more energy we have, the cheaper transportation and food is which in turn lets

people have more money for charity to help people who need food.
So creating a surplus of energy soon

could have worldwide benefits instead of just keeping up with demand.
I have a second vision that goes along with solar in the desert and superconductivity lines.
It is

tidal/solar near the coast, to fuel up hydrogen tanker trucks.
These hydrogen tanker trucks could run on

hydrogen themselves and take the energy inland.
In the same processing plant that creates the hydrogen

from electricity, they could also produce clean water for countries that need that as a critical

resource.
Both of these visions takes a little bit of technological advancement, but not too much from what we have.
My key question would be:  Would this new superconductor be possible to mass produce, and could it be used

as a new transmission line?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29724987</id>
	<title>Bad summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255344840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is "the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223?" And I don't believe there's an element known as Oy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is " the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223 ?
" And I do n't believe there 's an element known as Oy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is "the upper part of a 9212/2212C and the lower part of a 1223?
" And I don't believe there's an element known as Oy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29730641</id>
	<title>This site looks suspicious</title>
	<author>justkeeper</author>
	<datestamp>1255441500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't see these results reported anywhere else. And the highest reported superconducting temperature is still 138K according to Wikipedia, all claimed improvements afterwards seemed to be made by the same group, strange.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see these results reported anywhere else .
And the highest reported superconducting temperature is still 138K according to Wikipedia , all claimed improvements afterwards seemed to be made by the same group , strange .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see these results reported anywhere else.
And the highest reported superconducting temperature is still 138K according to Wikipedia, all claimed improvements afterwards seemed to be made by the same group, strange.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725479</id>
	<title>Wow only -254K</title>
	<author>kurt555gs</author>
	<datestamp>1255347060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This means superconductivity is possible without any equipment just about any January day in Winnipeg MB.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This means superconductivity is possible without any equipment just about any January day in Winnipeg MB .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This means superconductivity is possible without any equipment just about any January day in Winnipeg MB.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29732357</id>
	<title>Re:A couple visions for the future</title>
	<author>dasunt</author>
	<datestamp>1255450920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I too have a vision. It involves electricity becoming mondo-expensive and people switching to energy saving devices en-masse. Governments around the world turning to nuclear, and where convenient, hydro and air power, not because they have low carbon emissions (that's only a plus), but because they are actually cheaper! People finally turning away from 1800's oil and coal based technologies and moving, triumphantly towards 1950's engineering solutions!!</p></div></blockquote><p>
Energy being more expensive might not be a good thing for the environment.
</p><p>
Consider California.  If energy is cheap, desalinization is more attractive.  If energy is expensive, diverting major rivers from original watersheds is more attractive.
</p><p>
Often, raping the environment doesn't take a lot of energy.  Environmentally friendly practices tend to take more energy.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I too have a vision .
It involves electricity becoming mondo-expensive and people switching to energy saving devices en-masse .
Governments around the world turning to nuclear , and where convenient , hydro and air power , not because they have low carbon emissions ( that 's only a plus ) , but because they are actually cheaper !
People finally turning away from 1800 's oil and coal based technologies and moving , triumphantly towards 1950 's engineering solutions ! !
Energy being more expensive might not be a good thing for the environment .
Consider California .
If energy is cheap , desalinization is more attractive .
If energy is expensive , diverting major rivers from original watersheds is more attractive .
Often , raping the environment does n't take a lot of energy .
Environmentally friendly practices tend to take more energy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I too have a vision.
It involves electricity becoming mondo-expensive and people switching to energy saving devices en-masse.
Governments around the world turning to nuclear, and where convenient, hydro and air power, not because they have low carbon emissions (that's only a plus), but because they are actually cheaper!
People finally turning away from 1800's oil and coal based technologies and moving, triumphantly towards 1950's engineering solutions!!
Energy being more expensive might not be a good thing for the environment.
Consider California.
If energy is cheap, desalinization is more attractive.
If energy is expensive, diverting major rivers from original watersheds is more attractive.
Often, raping the environment doesn't take a lot of energy.
Environmentally friendly practices tend to take more energy.

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29726385</id>
	<title>Not manufacturable yet...</title>
	<author>bertok</author>
	<datestamp>1255351980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I actually noticed the original source research on the web a couple of months ago, and it should be mentioned that what these guys are creating is <i>not</i> a bulk material that you can pop into a freezer and levitate magnets over or whatever.</p><p>Their strategy is to produce a <i>mix</i> of many different variations of their target substance by carefully crystallizing it so that slightly different ratios of the constituent elements turn up in small crystals that are a part of a larger aggregate. They then test the conductivity of the mix as they lower the temperature. If any one crystal superconducts, then they observe a small drop in the conductivity graph at that temperature. With complex mixes, you get multiple drops, at different temperatures. They pick the highest temperature at which they observed a drop, and they try to isolate the crystal.</p><p>This method is very clever because it lets experimenters test a large number of related compounds 'in parallel', but what it doesn't do is provide a method for actually making bulk quantities of a discovered compound. It's almost like those mathematical proofs, where you can show that a solution exists, you just can't actually determine what it is. In this case, making significant quantities of the pure superconductor might be quite challenging, possibly harder than finding it in the first place.</p><p>On the other hand, once they do succeed, we'll have superconductors within the temperature range achievable with solid-state chillers like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric\_effect" title="wikipedia.org">Peltier Coolers</a> [wikipedia.org] familiar to overclockers. That's <i>big</i>. If the superconductors have decent max current limits, expect superconducting power-electronics to be commercially available in 15 to 20 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually noticed the original source research on the web a couple of months ago , and it should be mentioned that what these guys are creating is not a bulk material that you can pop into a freezer and levitate magnets over or whatever.Their strategy is to produce a mix of many different variations of their target substance by carefully crystallizing it so that slightly different ratios of the constituent elements turn up in small crystals that are a part of a larger aggregate .
They then test the conductivity of the mix as they lower the temperature .
If any one crystal superconducts , then they observe a small drop in the conductivity graph at that temperature .
With complex mixes , you get multiple drops , at different temperatures .
They pick the highest temperature at which they observed a drop , and they try to isolate the crystal.This method is very clever because it lets experimenters test a large number of related compounds 'in parallel ' , but what it does n't do is provide a method for actually making bulk quantities of a discovered compound .
It 's almost like those mathematical proofs , where you can show that a solution exists , you just ca n't actually determine what it is .
In this case , making significant quantities of the pure superconductor might be quite challenging , possibly harder than finding it in the first place.On the other hand , once they do succeed , we 'll have superconductors within the temperature range achievable with solid-state chillers like the Peltier Coolers [ wikipedia.org ] familiar to overclockers .
That 's big .
If the superconductors have decent max current limits , expect superconducting power-electronics to be commercially available in 15 to 20 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually noticed the original source research on the web a couple of months ago, and it should be mentioned that what these guys are creating is not a bulk material that you can pop into a freezer and levitate magnets over or whatever.Their strategy is to produce a mix of many different variations of their target substance by carefully crystallizing it so that slightly different ratios of the constituent elements turn up in small crystals that are a part of a larger aggregate.
They then test the conductivity of the mix as they lower the temperature.
If any one crystal superconducts, then they observe a small drop in the conductivity graph at that temperature.
With complex mixes, you get multiple drops, at different temperatures.
They pick the highest temperature at which they observed a drop, and they try to isolate the crystal.This method is very clever because it lets experimenters test a large number of related compounds 'in parallel', but what it doesn't do is provide a method for actually making bulk quantities of a discovered compound.
It's almost like those mathematical proofs, where you can show that a solution exists, you just can't actually determine what it is.
In this case, making significant quantities of the pure superconductor might be quite challenging, possibly harder than finding it in the first place.On the other hand, once they do succeed, we'll have superconductors within the temperature range achievable with solid-state chillers like the Peltier Coolers [wikipedia.org] familiar to overclockers.
That's big.
If the superconductors have decent max current limits, expect superconducting power-electronics to be commercially available in 15 to 20 years.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29728199</id>
	<title>254K?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255365120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That could be cooled by my ex-girlfriend's vagina!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That could be cooled by my ex-girlfriend 's vagina !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That could be cooled by my ex-girlfriend's vagina!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_12_1916247.29725265</id>
	<title>Re:Bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255346220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I totally agree.  I searched google expecting to find articles all over the web with this AMAZING discovery, but nope, no one has it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I totally agree .
I searched google expecting to find articles all over the web with this AMAZING discovery , but nope , no one has it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I totally agree.
I searched google expecting to find articles all over the web with this AMAZING discovery, but nope, no one has it.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Possible applications</title>
	<author>ogl\_codemonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1255350300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please elaborate; what is a superdon and why would I want to cut one with a magnet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please elaborate ; what is a superdon and why would I want to cut one with a magnet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please elaborate; what is a superdon and why would I want to cut one with a magnet?</sentencetext>
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