<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_17_1550212</id>
	<title>Belgium Tries to Fine Yahoo for Protecting US User Privacy</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1247854020000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Techdirt is reporting that Belgium is trying to <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20090716/0405415571.shtml">extract fines from Yahoo</a> for not producing user data that was recently demanded of the US company.  Instead of following normal diplomatic channels Belgian officials apparently made the data demands directly to Yahoo's US headquarters and then took the company to criminal court, where a judge issued the fine.  <i>"The implications of this ruling are profound and far-reaching. Following the court's logic would subject user data associated with any service generally available online to the jurisdiction of all countries. It would also subject all companies that offer services generally available on the global Internet to the laws of all jurisdictions, potentially exposing individual employees to a variety of criminal sanctions."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Techdirt is reporting that Belgium is trying to extract fines from Yahoo for not producing user data that was recently demanded of the US company .
Instead of following normal diplomatic channels Belgian officials apparently made the data demands directly to Yahoo 's US headquarters and then took the company to criminal court , where a judge issued the fine .
" The implications of this ruling are profound and far-reaching .
Following the court 's logic would subject user data associated with any service generally available online to the jurisdiction of all countries .
It would also subject all companies that offer services generally available on the global Internet to the laws of all jurisdictions , potentially exposing individual employees to a variety of criminal sanctions .
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<sentencetext>Techdirt is reporting that Belgium is trying to extract fines from Yahoo for not producing user data that was recently demanded of the US company.
Instead of following normal diplomatic channels Belgian officials apparently made the data demands directly to Yahoo's US headquarters and then took the company to criminal court, where a judge issued the fine.
"The implications of this ruling are profound and far-reaching.
Following the court's logic would subject user data associated with any service generally available online to the jurisdiction of all countries.
It would also subject all companies that offer services generally available on the global Internet to the laws of all jurisdictions, potentially exposing individual employees to a variety of criminal sanctions.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28740691</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, wonderful internet, horrible internet</title>
	<author>Yogiz</author>
	<datestamp>1247931300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Oh, but they'll try. They will cast their books down on our heads, scream a million epitaths of criminal, deviant, terrorists, and invent new terms to express their disgust. They'll arrest us, punish us, and wage massive campaigns of fear. But they'll never get the idea out of our heads that maybe, just maybe, we don't have to pay their tax to touch the life of another person.</p></div><p>You know what I'm afraid of? That in the end, they will.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , but they 'll try .
They will cast their books down on our heads , scream a million epitaths of criminal , deviant , terrorists , and invent new terms to express their disgust .
They 'll arrest us , punish us , and wage massive campaigns of fear .
But they 'll never get the idea out of our heads that maybe , just maybe , we do n't have to pay their tax to touch the life of another person.You know what I 'm afraid of ?
That in the end , they will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, but they'll try.
They will cast their books down on our heads, scream a million epitaths of criminal, deviant, terrorists, and invent new terms to express their disgust.
They'll arrest us, punish us, and wage massive campaigns of fear.
But they'll never get the idea out of our heads that maybe, just maybe, we don't have to pay their tax to touch the life of another person.You know what I'm afraid of?
That in the end, they will.
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	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733045</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733261</id>
	<title>Just drop a bomb on em...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247860320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'll shut up
<br> <br>
j/k... Just for the record, I don't endorse bombing third world countries just for the hell of it, especially ones that produce beer</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll shut up j/k... Just for the record , I do n't endorse bombing third world countries just for the hell of it , especially ones that produce beer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll shut up
 
j/k... Just for the record, I don't endorse bombing third world countries just for the hell of it, especially ones that produce beer</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28739225</id>
	<title>Re:if the usa never existed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247911200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>all of the horrible crimes you ascribe to the usa would still go on</p><p>please stop ascribing to american behavior that which is basically human behavior.</p></div><p>That's ridiculous. If you can't blame the US for offensive behaviour because it's "human nature" then don't blame GP for displaying his human nature.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>then you can still find america guilty of plenty of crimes, and rightfully so. [...] belgium is being retarded all by itself, all on its own.</p></div><p>I agree that you should hold them accountable for what they actually do.</p><p>While the actions of the US (or any other form of human organisation) are of course human nature, the US happens to be extremely powerful and it does have a tendency to push its agenda in the world. One example that shocked my country is a <a href="http://www.alternet.org/rights/127080/time\_to\_dump\_that\_bush-era\_law\_permitting\_an\_invasion\_of\_holland\_to\_" title="alternet.org" rel="nofollow">law permitting an invasion of the Netherlands</a> [alternet.org]. Not only does the US sometimes behave like a bully, it is much more threatening than a small country like Belgium can ever be. It's not surprising that people develop strong reactions to that. Like you in turn develop strong reactions to those reactions. Just human nature.</p><p>I noticed you don't use capitals, except for "United States". What's the significance of that?</p><p>I won't apologise for posting as an AC. I don't share the sentiment that you're automatically reduced to a douchebag when you don't put your name to it (which is Gerrit, by the way), and I never felt the urge to create a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>./ account.</p></div>
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<tokenext>all of the horrible crimes you ascribe to the usa would still go onplease stop ascribing to american behavior that which is basically human behavior.That 's ridiculous .
If you ca n't blame the US for offensive behaviour because it 's " human nature " then do n't blame GP for displaying his human nature.then you can still find america guilty of plenty of crimes , and rightfully so .
[ ... ] belgium is being retarded all by itself , all on its own.I agree that you should hold them accountable for what they actually do.While the actions of the US ( or any other form of human organisation ) are of course human nature , the US happens to be extremely powerful and it does have a tendency to push its agenda in the world .
One example that shocked my country is a law permitting an invasion of the Netherlands [ alternet.org ] .
Not only does the US sometimes behave like a bully , it is much more threatening than a small country like Belgium can ever be .
It 's not surprising that people develop strong reactions to that .
Like you in turn develop strong reactions to those reactions .
Just human nature.I noticed you do n't use capitals , except for " United States " .
What 's the significance of that ? I wo n't apologise for posting as an AC .
I do n't share the sentiment that you 're automatically reduced to a douchebag when you do n't put your name to it ( which is Gerrit , by the way ) , and I never felt the urge to create a ./ account .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>all of the horrible crimes you ascribe to the usa would still go onplease stop ascribing to american behavior that which is basically human behavior.That's ridiculous.
If you can't blame the US for offensive behaviour because it's "human nature" then don't blame GP for displaying his human nature.then you can still find america guilty of plenty of crimes, and rightfully so.
[...] belgium is being retarded all by itself, all on its own.I agree that you should hold them accountable for what they actually do.While the actions of the US (or any other form of human organisation) are of course human nature, the US happens to be extremely powerful and it does have a tendency to push its agenda in the world.
One example that shocked my country is a law permitting an invasion of the Netherlands [alternet.org].
Not only does the US sometimes behave like a bully, it is much more threatening than a small country like Belgium can ever be.
It's not surprising that people develop strong reactions to that.
Like you in turn develop strong reactions to those reactions.
Just human nature.I noticed you don't use capitals, except for "United States".
What's the significance of that?I won't apologise for posting as an AC.
I don't share the sentiment that you're automatically reduced to a douchebag when you don't put your name to it (which is Gerrit, by the way), and I never felt the urge to create a ./ account.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732975</id>
	<title>Dear Belgium:  +1, Incendiary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247858820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have just been added to be my list of BANNED<br>countries for tourism.</p><p>Up Your Nose With A (Metric) Ton of Hops!!!</p><p>Yours In Oligarchy,<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCiUGb9f7hI" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Kilgore Trout</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have just been added to be my list of BANNEDcountries for tourism.Up Your Nose With A ( Metric ) Ton of Hops ! !
! Yours In Oligarchy,Kilgore Trout [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have just been added to be my list of BANNEDcountries for tourism.Up Your Nose With A (Metric) Ton of Hops!!
!Yours In Oligarchy,Kilgore Trout [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28738901</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247948400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The pitiful clownish side?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The pitiful clownish side ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The pitiful clownish side?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733241</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733635</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put the USA to sleep</title>
	<author>Tanktalus</author>
	<datestamp>1247862120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmm.  And here I thought that the US merely forbid US-based credit card companies from paying to on-line casinos.  That'd be entirely legal (even if the effect, or even the desired effect, is of dubious value).  Not quite the same thing as fining foreign casinos, or even outlawing them (per se).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm .
And here I thought that the US merely forbid US-based credit card companies from paying to on-line casinos .
That 'd be entirely legal ( even if the effect , or even the desired effect , is of dubious value ) .
Not quite the same thing as fining foreign casinos , or even outlawing them ( per se ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm.
And here I thought that the US merely forbid US-based credit card companies from paying to on-line casinos.
That'd be entirely legal (even if the effect, or even the desired effect, is of dubious value).
Not quite the same thing as fining foreign casinos, or even outlawing them (per se).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733233</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733345</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>A Pancake</author>
	<datestamp>1247860740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alright, I'll buy into this plan if we do the same with the US on the grounds of it's disruptive behavior on the planet.</p><p>Sure, this might look like a troll but the above got +5 insightful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alright , I 'll buy into this plan if we do the same with the US on the grounds of it 's disruptive behavior on the planet.Sure , this might look like a troll but the above got + 5 insightful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alright, I'll buy into this plan if we do the same with the US on the grounds of it's disruptive behavior on the planet.Sure, this might look like a troll but the above got +5 insightful.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732711</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734189</id>
	<title>Re:Individuals affected already</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247821380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>completely different...</p><p>In your example, the proper procedure was followed - the US petitioned the Australian government to act against its own citizen (arrest and extradite him).</p><p>In this case, the Belgian state has acted against a US citizen.  The proper procedure would be for the Belgian government to petition the US government to act against the US citizen (corporations are artificial people for legal purposes...)  This would require approval of the US state and then action by the US court system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>completely different...In your example , the proper procedure was followed - the US petitioned the Australian government to act against its own citizen ( arrest and extradite him ) .In this case , the Belgian state has acted against a US citizen .
The proper procedure would be for the Belgian government to petition the US government to act against the US citizen ( corporations are artificial people for legal purposes... ) This would require approval of the US state and then action by the US court system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>completely different...In your example, the proper procedure was followed - the US petitioned the Australian government to act against its own citizen (arrest and extradite him).In this case, the Belgian state has acted against a US citizen.
The proper procedure would be for the Belgian government to petition the US government to act against the US citizen (corporations are artificial people for legal purposes...)  This would require approval of the US state and then action by the US court system.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733363</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733729</id>
	<title>Belgian or US court?</title>
	<author>Ungrounded Lightning</author>
	<datestamp>1247862540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Was this decision rendered in a Belgian or US criminal court?  TFA and the summary don't make this important distinction.</p><p>If it was in a Belgian court it's a "go whistle" to get the decree enforced.  (But Yahoo executives will have to be careful about European travel in the future if they thumb their nose.)  If it was in a US court it's a whole different can of worms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was this decision rendered in a Belgian or US criminal court ?
TFA and the summary do n't make this important distinction.If it was in a Belgian court it 's a " go whistle " to get the decree enforced .
( But Yahoo executives will have to be careful about European travel in the future if they thumb their nose .
) If it was in a US court it 's a whole different can of worms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was this decision rendered in a Belgian or US criminal court?
TFA and the summary don't make this important distinction.If it was in a Belgian court it's a "go whistle" to get the decree enforced.
(But Yahoo executives will have to be careful about European travel in the future if they thumb their nose.
)  If it was in a US court it's a whole different can of worms.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733411</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>StackedCrooked</author>
	<datestamp>1247861160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How is Belgium notorious for its disruptive behavior on the Internet?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How is Belgium notorious for its disruptive behavior on the Internet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is Belgium notorious for its disruptive behavior on the Internet?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732711</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28737119</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, wonderful internet, horrible internet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247838900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>now you understand why we have a 2nd amendment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>now you understand why we have a 2nd amendment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>now you understand why we have a 2nd amendment.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733195</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733541</id>
	<title>Ob. Joke</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247861700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cigar and a waffle?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cigar and a waffle ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cigar and a waffle?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733237</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, wonderful internet, horrible internet</title>
	<author>BJ\_Covert\_Action</author>
	<datestamp>1247860140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>...And it is precisely this realization and attitude that makes me hopeful of the future. Societies may rise and fall, governments may dictate and mandate, all hell can break loose politically, but frankly, humans, and the younger generations in general, have tasted the freedom of the internet and the ideas it embraces. Laws can be passed and a whole world can be turned into criminals, but as long as the attitude of the parent post prevails there will always be some group of hackers, some tech junkies, some basement geniuses that will find new ways to connect humanity and laugh flippantly at the established powers.
<br> <br>
The power of humanity comes from its ideas, not its technology or biology or whatever, but fundamentally from its ideas. As long as we fan the flames of ideas like those discussed above, even if we do so in a very limited scope by talking only to one person our entire lives, the future will always be a bit brighter.
<br> <br>
Thank you for iterating these thoughts so well and concisely girlintraining.
<br> <br>
I, for one, welcome our own ideologies and intelligence as overlords.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...And it is precisely this realization and attitude that makes me hopeful of the future .
Societies may rise and fall , governments may dictate and mandate , all hell can break loose politically , but frankly , humans , and the younger generations in general , have tasted the freedom of the internet and the ideas it embraces .
Laws can be passed and a whole world can be turned into criminals , but as long as the attitude of the parent post prevails there will always be some group of hackers , some tech junkies , some basement geniuses that will find new ways to connect humanity and laugh flippantly at the established powers .
The power of humanity comes from its ideas , not its technology or biology or whatever , but fundamentally from its ideas .
As long as we fan the flames of ideas like those discussed above , even if we do so in a very limited scope by talking only to one person our entire lives , the future will always be a bit brighter .
Thank you for iterating these thoughts so well and concisely girlintraining .
I , for one , welcome our own ideologies and intelligence as overlords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...And it is precisely this realization and attitude that makes me hopeful of the future.
Societies may rise and fall, governments may dictate and mandate, all hell can break loose politically, but frankly, humans, and the younger generations in general, have tasted the freedom of the internet and the ideas it embraces.
Laws can be passed and a whole world can be turned into criminals, but as long as the attitude of the parent post prevails there will always be some group of hackers, some tech junkies, some basement geniuses that will find new ways to connect humanity and laugh flippantly at the established powers.
The power of humanity comes from its ideas, not its technology or biology or whatever, but fundamentally from its ideas.
As long as we fan the flames of ideas like those discussed above, even if we do so in a very limited scope by talking only to one person our entire lives, the future will always be a bit brighter.
Thank you for iterating these thoughts so well and concisely girlintraining.
I, for one, welcome our own ideologies and intelligence as overlords.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733045</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28743723</id>
	<title>WTF</title>
	<author>rakslice</author>
	<datestamp>1247914140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; normal diplomatic channels</p><p>Yahoo is not a country, no matter how swelled the egos of its current masters are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; normal diplomatic channelsYahoo is not a country , no matter how swelled the egos of its current masters are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; normal diplomatic channelsYahoo is not a country, no matter how swelled the egos of its current masters are.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28751171</id>
	<title>iptables is the answer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1248007020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I were Yahoo, being sued by a country outside of my jurisdiction - I'd simply firewall, prevent the entire country from accessing my services - Sure, not the most profoundly sane business logic if you like having customers there - but hey, perhaps after a few years of living in the dark ages the country might smarten up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were Yahoo , being sued by a country outside of my jurisdiction - I 'd simply firewall , prevent the entire country from accessing my services - Sure , not the most profoundly sane business logic if you like having customers there - but hey , perhaps after a few years of living in the dark ages the country might smarten up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were Yahoo, being sued by a country outside of my jurisdiction - I'd simply firewall, prevent the entire country from accessing my services - Sure, not the most profoundly sane business logic if you like having customers there - but hey, perhaps after a few years of living in the dark ages the country might smarten up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733949</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>johannesg</author>
	<datestamp>1247863620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For all I care Belgium can disintegrate. If wallonia wants to join France, so be it. If Eupen want to join Germany, so be it. If both want to stay independent, so be it. I don't care.<br>But Flanders will become an independent republic. It would never join the Netherlands. You would have to pry Brussel from our cold dead hands, before we would let it join Wallonia. Or it could go to the EU as the DC capital of europe, which is also fine. Fighting over Brussel costs too much money, and we are a peaceful people anyway. But sending billions of euros to wallonia, while they spit on our culture and threaten our territorial integrity, has to stop.</p><p>Bonus point if you guess which side I am from.</p></div><p>Oh, come on! The Netherlands really isn't that bad. We love our southern neighbours, their chocolate, their beer, their friendly demeanor... And you might enjoy our liberal drug-policies and cheap, fast internet. When you join, we will (as a bonus) finally get around to fixing the access to the Antwerp harbor, as well as the railway to Germany that you have been craving for such a long time.</p><p>On the other hand, we wouldn't want to share a border with France, so I'm in favor of keeping at least something of a buffer zone...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For all I care Belgium can disintegrate .
If wallonia wants to join France , so be it .
If Eupen want to join Germany , so be it .
If both want to stay independent , so be it .
I do n't care.But Flanders will become an independent republic .
It would never join the Netherlands .
You would have to pry Brussel from our cold dead hands , before we would let it join Wallonia .
Or it could go to the EU as the DC capital of europe , which is also fine .
Fighting over Brussel costs too much money , and we are a peaceful people anyway .
But sending billions of euros to wallonia , while they spit on our culture and threaten our territorial integrity , has to stop.Bonus point if you guess which side I am from.Oh , come on !
The Netherlands really is n't that bad .
We love our southern neighbours , their chocolate , their beer , their friendly demeanor... And you might enjoy our liberal drug-policies and cheap , fast internet .
When you join , we will ( as a bonus ) finally get around to fixing the access to the Antwerp harbor , as well as the railway to Germany that you have been craving for such a long time.On the other hand , we would n't want to share a border with France , so I 'm in favor of keeping at least something of a buffer zone.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all I care Belgium can disintegrate.
If wallonia wants to join France, so be it.
If Eupen want to join Germany, so be it.
If both want to stay independent, so be it.
I don't care.But Flanders will become an independent republic.
It would never join the Netherlands.
You would have to pry Brussel from our cold dead hands, before we would let it join Wallonia.
Or it could go to the EU as the DC capital of europe, which is also fine.
Fighting over Brussel costs too much money, and we are a peaceful people anyway.
But sending billions of euros to wallonia, while they spit on our culture and threaten our territorial integrity, has to stop.Bonus point if you guess which side I am from.Oh, come on!
The Netherlands really isn't that bad.
We love our southern neighbours, their chocolate, their beer, their friendly demeanor... And you might enjoy our liberal drug-policies and cheap, fast internet.
When you join, we will (as a bonus) finally get around to fixing the access to the Antwerp harbor, as well as the railway to Germany that you have been craving for such a long time.On the other hand, we wouldn't want to share a border with France, so I'm in favor of keeping at least something of a buffer zone...
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733363</id>
	<title>Individuals affected already</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247860860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am getting the suspicion that this story  pretends this to be a bigger issue because it affects an American company.</p><p>However, this kind of "which laws are affecting what I do" has already got individuals. See for example the case of Hew Raymond Griffiths,</p><p>
&nbsp; * <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hew\_Raymond\_Griffiths" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hew\_Raymond\_Griffiths</a> [wikipedia.org]<br>
&nbsp; * <a href="http://www.ibls.com/internet\_law\_news\_portal\_view.aspx?id=1778&amp;s=latestnews" title="ibls.com">http://www.ibls.com/internet\_law\_news\_portal\_view.aspx?id=1778&amp;s=latestnews</a> [ibls.com]</p><p>Griffiths was extradited from Australia to the U.S., a country he had never visited, for some "Intellectual Property" crimes.</p><p>For a company it is  a mere money issue, but when individuals are extradited it becomes extremely problematic.</p><p>Stephan</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am getting the suspicion that this story pretends this to be a bigger issue because it affects an American company.However , this kind of " which laws are affecting what I do " has already got individuals .
See for example the case of Hew Raymond Griffiths ,   * http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hew \ _Raymond \ _Griffiths [ wikipedia.org ]   * http : //www.ibls.com/internet \ _law \ _news \ _portal \ _view.aspx ? id = 1778&amp;s = latestnews [ ibls.com ] Griffiths was extradited from Australia to the U.S. , a country he had never visited , for some " Intellectual Property " crimes.For a company it is a mere money issue , but when individuals are extradited it becomes extremely problematic.Stephan</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am getting the suspicion that this story  pretends this to be a bigger issue because it affects an American company.However, this kind of "which laws are affecting what I do" has already got individuals.
See for example the case of Hew Raymond Griffiths,
  * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hew\_Raymond\_Griffiths [wikipedia.org]
  * http://www.ibls.com/internet\_law\_news\_portal\_view.aspx?id=1778&amp;s=latestnews [ibls.com]Griffiths was extradited from Australia to the U.S., a country he had never visited, for some "Intellectual Property" crimes.For a company it is  a mere money issue, but when individuals are extradited it becomes extremely problematic.Stephan</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733309</id>
	<title>Re:Response</title>
	<author>Dr Caleb</author>
	<datestamp>1247860560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>3) Stop collecting this information to begin with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>3 ) Stop collecting this information to begin with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3) Stop collecting this information to begin with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732891</id>
	<title>Yahoo should tell Belgium to get bent</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247858400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's full of tits that'll tattoo their face with stars or something equally stupid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's full of tits that 'll tattoo their face with stars or something equally stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's full of tits that'll tattoo their face with stars or something equally stupid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28736623</id>
	<title>Re:It's unenforceable</title>
	<author>ToddlerArmyofOne</author>
	<datestamp>1247835300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If the US fines Yahoo and Yahoo doesn't pay the US freezes Yahoo's assets. Belgium doesn't have that option.</p></div><p>Or if Yahoo has offices in the EU, which it has, it is enforceable. </p><p>

The more interesting question is why Yahoo, wouldn't want to cooperate with Belgian courts. They should be at least as good as the US courts.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the US fines Yahoo and Yahoo does n't pay the US freezes Yahoo 's assets .
Belgium does n't have that option.Or if Yahoo has offices in the EU , which it has , it is enforceable .
The more interesting question is why Yahoo , would n't want to cooperate with Belgian courts .
They should be at least as good as the US courts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the US fines Yahoo and Yahoo doesn't pay the US freezes Yahoo's assets.
Belgium doesn't have that option.Or if Yahoo has offices in the EU, which it has, it is enforceable.
The more interesting question is why Yahoo, wouldn't want to cooperate with Belgian courts.
They should be at least as good as the US courts.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733195</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, wonderful internet, horrible internet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247859960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why is it that only our generation understands the truly public and universal nature of the internet? Nobody owns the internet, and nobody ever will. You can claim to own the wires, the equipment, the computers, the software, and every other component, but you still won't own the internet. The internet has given birth to an idea -- that we're all interconnected and nobody owns the spaces in between. This idea recurs generation after generation, only to die because society can't find a place for it.</p><p>Oh, but they'll try. They will cast their books down on our heads, scream a million epitaths of criminal, deviant, terrorists, and invent new terms to express their disgust. They'll arrest us, punish us, and wage massive campaigns of fear. But they'll never get the idea out of our heads that maybe, just maybe, we don't have to pay their tax to touch the life of another person.</p></div><p>they disagree with you, and they are the ones with the guns, jails and judges to enforce what they believe.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is it that only our generation understands the truly public and universal nature of the internet ?
Nobody owns the internet , and nobody ever will .
You can claim to own the wires , the equipment , the computers , the software , and every other component , but you still wo n't own the internet .
The internet has given birth to an idea -- that we 're all interconnected and nobody owns the spaces in between .
This idea recurs generation after generation , only to die because society ca n't find a place for it.Oh , but they 'll try .
They will cast their books down on our heads , scream a million epitaths of criminal , deviant , terrorists , and invent new terms to express their disgust .
They 'll arrest us , punish us , and wage massive campaigns of fear .
But they 'll never get the idea out of our heads that maybe , just maybe , we do n't have to pay their tax to touch the life of another person.they disagree with you , and they are the ones with the guns , jails and judges to enforce what they believe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is it that only our generation understands the truly public and universal nature of the internet?
Nobody owns the internet, and nobody ever will.
You can claim to own the wires, the equipment, the computers, the software, and every other component, but you still won't own the internet.
The internet has given birth to an idea -- that we're all interconnected and nobody owns the spaces in between.
This idea recurs generation after generation, only to die because society can't find a place for it.Oh, but they'll try.
They will cast their books down on our heads, scream a million epitaths of criminal, deviant, terrorists, and invent new terms to express their disgust.
They'll arrest us, punish us, and wage massive campaigns of fear.
But they'll never get the idea out of our heads that maybe, just maybe, we don't have to pay their tax to touch the life of another person.they disagree with you, and they are the ones with the guns, jails and judges to enforce what they believe.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733321</id>
	<title>The real problem here</title>
	<author>lamadude</author>
	<datestamp>1247860620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>is not that Belgium wants this information, it would help in the fraud investigation that is ongoing. The fraud was commited in Belgium by people using yahoo email adresses, how are they supposed to find these people?  The problem is:

1. That Belgium takes Yahoo to court instead of relying on the mutual legal assistance treaty which already exists between the US and Belgium

2. That the court actually followed Belgium's reasoning, which creates a dangerous precedent.</htmltext>
<tokenext>is not that Belgium wants this information , it would help in the fraud investigation that is ongoing .
The fraud was commited in Belgium by people using yahoo email adresses , how are they supposed to find these people ?
The problem is : 1 .
That Belgium takes Yahoo to court instead of relying on the mutual legal assistance treaty which already exists between the US and Belgium 2 .
That the court actually followed Belgium 's reasoning , which creates a dangerous precedent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is not that Belgium wants this information, it would help in the fraud investigation that is ongoing.
The fraud was commited in Belgium by people using yahoo email adresses, how are they supposed to find these people?
The problem is:

1.
That Belgium takes Yahoo to court instead of relying on the mutual legal assistance treaty which already exists between the US and Belgium

2.
That the court actually followed Belgium's reasoning, which creates a dangerous precedent.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732911</id>
	<title>That's what the copyright chasers do</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247858460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>would subject user data associated with any service generally available online to the jurisdiction of all countries</p></div><p>
You have organisations in one country trying to impose their rules on people in other countries. The basic problem is that the internet does not follow country boundaries and until there is some internationally agreed (as opposed to single-ended imposition) treaties to say exactly who has jusidiction, over what and where, these things will continue to cause trouble. The U.S. already assumes that any data which touches servers in their country makes the sender / receiver subject to their laws (ref: the Natwest three - look it up), so it's only fair that other countries should uphold the same standards.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>would subject user data associated with any service generally available online to the jurisdiction of all countries You have organisations in one country trying to impose their rules on people in other countries .
The basic problem is that the internet does not follow country boundaries and until there is some internationally agreed ( as opposed to single-ended imposition ) treaties to say exactly who has jusidiction , over what and where , these things will continue to cause trouble .
The U.S. already assumes that any data which touches servers in their country makes the sender / receiver subject to their laws ( ref : the Natwest three - look it up ) , so it 's only fair that other countries should uphold the same standards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>would subject user data associated with any service generally available online to the jurisdiction of all countries
You have organisations in one country trying to impose their rules on people in other countries.
The basic problem is that the internet does not follow country boundaries and until there is some internationally agreed (as opposed to single-ended imposition) treaties to say exactly who has jusidiction, over what and where, these things will continue to cause trouble.
The U.S. already assumes that any data which touches servers in their country makes the sender / receiver subject to their laws (ref: the Natwest three - look it up), so it's only fair that other countries should uphold the same standards.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733147</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247859780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wholly agree, I call upon the United Nations to put an end to the experiment that was Belgium</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wholly agree , I call upon the United Nations to put an end to the experiment that was Belgium</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wholly agree, I call upon the United Nations to put an end to the experiment that was Belgium</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28844075</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1248690900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>For all that matters, they can speak Chinese, I don't care!</i> </p><p>For another view,talk to a Tibetan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For all that matters , they can speak Chinese , I do n't care !
For another view,talk to a Tibetan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all that matters, they can speak Chinese, I don't care!
For another view,talk to a Tibetan.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732887</id>
	<title>Where have I heard this type of stuff before?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247858340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So it appears that every one is just following the example of the United States by imposing their laws on the international community.  All Yahoo has to do is not have any of its workers step outside the US.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So it appears that every one is just following the example of the United States by imposing their laws on the international community .
All Yahoo has to do is not have any of its workers step outside the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it appears that every one is just following the example of the United States by imposing their laws on the international community.
All Yahoo has to do is not have any of its workers step outside the US.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28737019</id>
	<title>Oopps... nationalistic goggles alert</title>
	<author>ToddlerArmyofOne</author>
	<datestamp>1247838000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which is <b>morally</b> worse a) a European court to want to know details about a US citizen from a Yahoo, or b) a US court to get information about a European citizen from Yahoo?</p><p>If you think that a) is worse than b) perhaps you haven't grasped that the internet is a worldwide phenomenon, and you are probably wearing you nationalistic goggles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which is morally worse a ) a European court to want to know details about a US citizen from a Yahoo , or b ) a US court to get information about a European citizen from Yahoo ? If you think that a ) is worse than b ) perhaps you have n't grasped that the internet is a worldwide phenomenon , and you are probably wearing you nationalistic goggles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which is morally worse a) a European court to want to know details about a US citizen from a Yahoo, or b) a US court to get information about a European citizen from Yahoo?If you think that a) is worse than b) perhaps you haven't grasped that the internet is a worldwide phenomenon, and you are probably wearing you nationalistic goggles.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28737521</id>
	<title>Re:Quid pro quo, or something along those lines?</title>
	<author>VGPowerlord</author>
	<datestamp>1247842500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Not too long ago a number of European countries (Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Andorra and Belgium, possibly more) at least partially gave up their banking secrecy after being pressured by the US, because the US wanted that information to fight fraud. Now Belgium is asking for information and suddenly privacy becomes an insurmountable issue.</p></div></blockquote><p>The reason this is an issue is that there's already a treaty in place to deal with Yahoo through government channels, but it's being ignored.</p><p>Make no mistake, if this happened in a US court, Yahoo would probably be required to turn over the information requested.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not too long ago a number of European countries ( Switzerland , Liechtenstein , Andorra and Belgium , possibly more ) at least partially gave up their banking secrecy after being pressured by the US , because the US wanted that information to fight fraud .
Now Belgium is asking for information and suddenly privacy becomes an insurmountable issue.The reason this is an issue is that there 's already a treaty in place to deal with Yahoo through government channels , but it 's being ignored.Make no mistake , if this happened in a US court , Yahoo would probably be required to turn over the information requested .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not too long ago a number of European countries (Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Andorra and Belgium, possibly more) at least partially gave up their banking secrecy after being pressured by the US, because the US wanted that information to fight fraud.
Now Belgium is asking for information and suddenly privacy becomes an insurmountable issue.The reason this is an issue is that there's already a treaty in place to deal with Yahoo through government channels, but it's being ignored.Make no mistake, if this happened in a US court, Yahoo would probably be required to turn over the information requested.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28738777</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Councilor Hart</author>
	<datestamp>1247860560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, the Netherlands ain't bad. But why would we exchange an annoying minority in the south with a nice majority in the north. We want independence, so that we can determine our own future.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , the Netherlands ai n't bad .
But why would we exchange an annoying minority in the south with a nice majority in the north .
We want independence , so that we can determine our own future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, the Netherlands ain't bad.
But why would we exchange an annoying minority in the south with a nice majority in the north.
We want independence, so that we can determine our own future.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733829</id>
	<title>Nobody saw this coming?</title>
	<author>mea37</author>
	<datestamp>1247862960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Somewhere along the line, everyone assumes that technology changes making something easy will automatically cause the legal landscape to fall in line so there are no repercussions when you do it.</p><p>The Internet has made it so easy to "act" simultaniously in, and interact simultaniously with the citizens of, every country on Earth, that even a small business potentially does it without even thinking about it; and even if you made the conscious decision not to, that would be hard.</p><p>So we say the Internet erases boundaries, but we don't really comprehend what that means.  One thing we should realize it doesn't mean: it doesn't mean the whole world is suddenly one big USA.</p><p>The approach Belgium is taking here isn't one I want to see take hold, but I can't say I'm surprised to see it tried.  A lot of the more "reasonable" approaches we could land on are not, in a lot of ways, "better".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Somewhere along the line , everyone assumes that technology changes making something easy will automatically cause the legal landscape to fall in line so there are no repercussions when you do it.The Internet has made it so easy to " act " simultaniously in , and interact simultaniously with the citizens of , every country on Earth , that even a small business potentially does it without even thinking about it ; and even if you made the conscious decision not to , that would be hard.So we say the Internet erases boundaries , but we do n't really comprehend what that means .
One thing we should realize it does n't mean : it does n't mean the whole world is suddenly one big USA.The approach Belgium is taking here is n't one I want to see take hold , but I ca n't say I 'm surprised to see it tried .
A lot of the more " reasonable " approaches we could land on are not , in a lot of ways , " better " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somewhere along the line, everyone assumes that technology changes making something easy will automatically cause the legal landscape to fall in line so there are no repercussions when you do it.The Internet has made it so easy to "act" simultaniously in, and interact simultaniously with the citizens of, every country on Earth, that even a small business potentially does it without even thinking about it; and even if you made the conscious decision not to, that would be hard.So we say the Internet erases boundaries, but we don't really comprehend what that means.
One thing we should realize it doesn't mean: it doesn't mean the whole world is suddenly one big USA.The approach Belgium is taking here isn't one I want to see take hold, but I can't say I'm surprised to see it tried.
A lot of the more "reasonable" approaches we could land on are not, in a lot of ways, "better".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734069</id>
	<title>Serves Yahoo right</title>
	<author>goffster</author>
	<datestamp>1247864100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anytime you have a company that transcends country boundaries you are begging for trouble.<br>Separate, cooperative companies seems far safer, cheaper, and adaptable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anytime you have a company that transcends country boundaries you are begging for trouble.Separate , cooperative companies seems far safer , cheaper , and adaptable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anytime you have a company that transcends country boundaries you are begging for trouble.Separate, cooperative companies seems far safer, cheaper, and adaptable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28739671</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247919240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I'm no linguist,  I have to agree.</p><p>Walloon is a language that shares its Romance origin with French.</p><p>It was the "master plan" of the Belgian "elite" (notably the nobility and industrials)  (NOT only the Flemish as poster above says)  to eradicate both Flemish and Walloon.  Only the Walloon part succeeded,  probably because the common roots of the two languages.  The Flemish people resisted.<br>Can you imagine a war where your officers talk a language you don't understand, and you and your comrades die because you don't fully understand the orders?  That's Belgium in the first world war.<br>Can you imagine a country where you can't get higher education in your own language because its considered a language for paupers ? That's Belgium 70 years ago.</p><p>Now that's history,  now to everyday reality in my job present time:</p><p>As a member of public administration in Belgium, I have to note that wherever possible Flemish (Dutch, spoken by 60\% of Belgians) is still threated as a second language.  Most communication between the upper management is done in French and then translated to bug-ridden Dutch to local institutions.  If communication is bilingual, the pages are always stapled in such way, Dutch speaking have to remove them because the Dutch language is always on the back side.<br>OK it's a small annoyance but...</p><p>Flemish people are generally peaceful people who only want respect for their language and culture (just like the Scottish, Basque, Catalian, Irish, North Italian,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...) people.<br>We 're an open society which welcomes and has always welcomed people from other cultures.</p><p>We're increasingly appalled by the way the Wallons are depicting us to the rest of the world.  Especially since we pay Belgiums bills.</p><p>May I note the French minority is one of the best protected minorities in the word.  40\% share is translated to 50\% representation in the parliament.  I'm still searching for another country who's willing to do that...<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I 'm no linguist , I have to agree.Walloon is a language that shares its Romance origin with French.It was the " master plan " of the Belgian " elite " ( notably the nobility and industrials ) ( NOT only the Flemish as poster above says ) to eradicate both Flemish and Walloon .
Only the Walloon part succeeded , probably because the common roots of the two languages .
The Flemish people resisted.Can you imagine a war where your officers talk a language you do n't understand , and you and your comrades die because you do n't fully understand the orders ?
That 's Belgium in the first world war.Can you imagine a country where you ca n't get higher education in your own language because its considered a language for paupers ?
That 's Belgium 70 years ago.Now that 's history , now to everyday reality in my job present time : As a member of public administration in Belgium , I have to note that wherever possible Flemish ( Dutch , spoken by 60 \ % of Belgians ) is still threated as a second language .
Most communication between the upper management is done in French and then translated to bug-ridden Dutch to local institutions .
If communication is bilingual , the pages are always stapled in such way , Dutch speaking have to remove them because the Dutch language is always on the back side.OK it 's a small annoyance but...Flemish people are generally peaceful people who only want respect for their language and culture ( just like the Scottish , Basque , Catalian , Irish , North Italian , ... ) people.We 're an open society which welcomes and has always welcomed people from other cultures.We 're increasingly appalled by the way the Wallons are depicting us to the rest of the world .
Especially since we pay Belgiums bills.May I note the French minority is one of the best protected minorities in the word .
40 \ % share is translated to 50 \ % representation in the parliament .
I 'm still searching for another country who 's willing to do that.. .  </tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I'm no linguist,  I have to agree.Walloon is a language that shares its Romance origin with French.It was the "master plan" of the Belgian "elite" (notably the nobility and industrials)  (NOT only the Flemish as poster above says)  to eradicate both Flemish and Walloon.
Only the Walloon part succeeded,  probably because the common roots of the two languages.
The Flemish people resisted.Can you imagine a war where your officers talk a language you don't understand, and you and your comrades die because you don't fully understand the orders?
That's Belgium in the first world war.Can you imagine a country where you can't get higher education in your own language because its considered a language for paupers ?
That's Belgium 70 years ago.Now that's history,  now to everyday reality in my job present time:As a member of public administration in Belgium, I have to note that wherever possible Flemish (Dutch, spoken by 60\% of Belgians) is still threated as a second language.
Most communication between the upper management is done in French and then translated to bug-ridden Dutch to local institutions.
If communication is bilingual, the pages are always stapled in such way, Dutch speaking have to remove them because the Dutch language is always on the back side.OK it's a small annoyance but...Flemish people are generally peaceful people who only want respect for their language and culture (just like the Scottish, Basque, Catalian, Irish, North Italian, ...) people.We 're an open society which welcomes and has always welcomed people from other cultures.We're increasingly appalled by the way the Wallons are depicting us to the rest of the world.
Especially since we pay Belgiums bills.May I note the French minority is one of the best protected minorities in the word.
40\% share is translated to 50\% representation in the parliament.
I'm still searching for another country who's willing to do that...
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733959</id>
	<title>How can you own land?</title>
	<author>gillbates</author>
	<datestamp>1247863680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
The native Americans used to ask.  To them, the land was so fundamentally free that to own a piece of it seemed a sacrilege (sp?) against nature.
</p><p>
But then, along came Europeans, and land the Indians had used for centuries was suddenly denied them.  You see, Europeans had this notion of property rights extending to the very stuff you put your feet on.  You might think it's absurd to lay claim to the internet, but believe me, someone is already thinking about ways of divvying it up and making ordinary people pay for what they used to get for free.  You'll pay to transmit, and your recipient will pay to receive.  And somewhere, somehow, if the telecoms can manage it, you'll pay a monthly fee to them to *store* the content you received from the internet.  Let's not forget Time Warner, who wanted to triple bill YouTube - once for the priviledge of connecting to the Net, a second time for the priviledge of providing *premium* content, and the third time is the user who pays for the bandwidth of downloading it from YouTube.
</p><p>
Freedom isn't free, after all - as the saying goes.  If you think the internet can't be owned, you've obviously never met a US legislator.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The native Americans used to ask .
To them , the land was so fundamentally free that to own a piece of it seemed a sacrilege ( sp ?
) against nature .
But then , along came Europeans , and land the Indians had used for centuries was suddenly denied them .
You see , Europeans had this notion of property rights extending to the very stuff you put your feet on .
You might think it 's absurd to lay claim to the internet , but believe me , someone is already thinking about ways of divvying it up and making ordinary people pay for what they used to get for free .
You 'll pay to transmit , and your recipient will pay to receive .
And somewhere , somehow , if the telecoms can manage it , you 'll pay a monthly fee to them to * store * the content you received from the internet .
Let 's not forget Time Warner , who wanted to triple bill YouTube - once for the priviledge of connecting to the Net , a second time for the priviledge of providing * premium * content , and the third time is the user who pays for the bandwidth of downloading it from YouTube .
Freedom is n't free , after all - as the saying goes .
If you think the internet ca n't be owned , you 've obviously never met a US legislator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
The native Americans used to ask.
To them, the land was so fundamentally free that to own a piece of it seemed a sacrilege (sp?
) against nature.
But then, along came Europeans, and land the Indians had used for centuries was suddenly denied them.
You see, Europeans had this notion of property rights extending to the very stuff you put your feet on.
You might think it's absurd to lay claim to the internet, but believe me, someone is already thinking about ways of divvying it up and making ordinary people pay for what they used to get for free.
You'll pay to transmit, and your recipient will pay to receive.
And somewhere, somehow, if the telecoms can manage it, you'll pay a monthly fee to them to *store* the content you received from the internet.
Let's not forget Time Warner, who wanted to triple bill YouTube - once for the priviledge of connecting to the Net, a second time for the priviledge of providing *premium* content, and the third time is the user who pays for the bandwidth of downloading it from YouTube.
Freedom isn't free, after all - as the saying goes.
If you think the internet can't be owned, you've obviously never met a US legislator.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733277</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, wonderful internet, horrible internet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247860440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Nobody owns the internet, and nobody ever will.</p></div><p>I always thought Google owned the internet...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody owns the internet , and nobody ever will.I always thought Google owned the internet.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody owns the internet, and nobody ever will.I always thought Google owned the internet...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733795</id>
	<title>They're trying to do what the US tried to do</title>
	<author>wireloose</author>
	<datestamp>1247862840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>3 years ago, Spamhaus was fined by a US federal court in Illinois.  Of course, jurisdiction was the issue, and the US lost in the appeal.  It was reported on here in slashdot.  Makes the US no different from Belgium, except Belgian beer is better than ours.  <a href="http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/05/1359232" title="slashdot.org">http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/05/1359232</a> [slashdot.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>3 years ago , Spamhaus was fined by a US federal court in Illinois .
Of course , jurisdiction was the issue , and the US lost in the appeal .
It was reported on here in slashdot .
Makes the US no different from Belgium , except Belgian beer is better than ours .
http : //it.slashdot.org/article.pl ? sid = 07/09/05/1359232 [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3 years ago, Spamhaus was fined by a US federal court in Illinois.
Of course, jurisdiction was the issue, and the US lost in the appeal.
It was reported on here in slashdot.
Makes the US no different from Belgium, except Belgian beer is better than ours.
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/05/1359232 [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733131</id>
	<title>It's unenforceable</title>
	<author>WarJolt</author>
	<datestamp>1247859720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Belgium fines yahoo.<br>2. Yahoo doesn't pay.<br>3. Belgium scratches their head wondering what to do next.</p><p>If the US fines Yahoo and Yahoo doesn't pay the US freezes Yahoo's assets. Belgium doesn't have that option.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Belgium fines yahoo.2 .
Yahoo does n't pay.3 .
Belgium scratches their head wondering what to do next.If the US fines Yahoo and Yahoo does n't pay the US freezes Yahoo 's assets .
Belgium does n't have that option .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Belgium fines yahoo.2.
Yahoo doesn't pay.3.
Belgium scratches their head wondering what to do next.If the US fines Yahoo and Yahoo doesn't pay the US freezes Yahoo's assets.
Belgium doesn't have that option.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28738645</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>chthon</author>
	<datestamp>1247858820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem with Wallonia is that they used to be rich, in the times that coal and steel ruled the world. Unfortunately for them they never caught up with the times after their mines got depleted and so their working class shifted into poverty. The PS of Wallonia takes advantage of their poor for keeping their majority and nothing is done to help their poor. Some parts of Wallonia (e.g. the Borinage) are really like third-world countries. The PS uses then economic reasons to get subsidies from Europe.
</p><p>There are people in Wallonia trying to make a difference, but unfortunately they are a minority.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with Wallonia is that they used to be rich , in the times that coal and steel ruled the world .
Unfortunately for them they never caught up with the times after their mines got depleted and so their working class shifted into poverty .
The PS of Wallonia takes advantage of their poor for keeping their majority and nothing is done to help their poor .
Some parts of Wallonia ( e.g .
the Borinage ) are really like third-world countries .
The PS uses then economic reasons to get subsidies from Europe .
There are people in Wallonia trying to make a difference , but unfortunately they are a minority .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem with Wallonia is that they used to be rich, in the times that coal and steel ruled the world.
Unfortunately for them they never caught up with the times after their mines got depleted and so their working class shifted into poverty.
The PS of Wallonia takes advantage of their poor for keeping their majority and nothing is done to help their poor.
Some parts of Wallonia (e.g.
the Borinage) are really like third-world countries.
The PS uses then economic reasons to get subsidies from Europe.
There are people in Wallonia trying to make a difference, but unfortunately they are a minority.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733233</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put the USA to sleep</title>
	<author>whoever57</author>
	<datestamp>1247860140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let's not forget the USA's actions against foreign based gambling operations. The USA started this type of action!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's not forget the USA 's actions against foreign based gambling operations .
The USA started this type of action !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's not forget the USA's actions against foreign based gambling operations.
The USA started this type of action!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733329</id>
	<title>Re:That's what the copyright chasers do</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247860680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm confused. Why do you think the internet doesn't follow country boundaries? Last time I checked ISPs operate in countries and provide the internet access. Look at what the Chinese have done with their internet access. That is actually the way it should be done. China doesn't sue the United States for whatever breach of their laws, they just block it.</p><p>The government allows cables to be run in to their countries and can sever them if they really have a problem. I just don't understand why you think the internet is an uncontrollable beast of a being that just can't be tamed. The problem is, people don't want the problem solved, they want the problem to continue so they can sue and make money on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm confused .
Why do you think the internet does n't follow country boundaries ?
Last time I checked ISPs operate in countries and provide the internet access .
Look at what the Chinese have done with their internet access .
That is actually the way it should be done .
China does n't sue the United States for whatever breach of their laws , they just block it.The government allows cables to be run in to their countries and can sever them if they really have a problem .
I just do n't understand why you think the internet is an uncontrollable beast of a being that just ca n't be tamed .
The problem is , people do n't want the problem solved , they want the problem to continue so they can sue and make money on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm confused.
Why do you think the internet doesn't follow country boundaries?
Last time I checked ISPs operate in countries and provide the internet access.
Look at what the Chinese have done with their internet access.
That is actually the way it should be done.
China doesn't sue the United States for whatever breach of their laws, they just block it.The government allows cables to be run in to their countries and can sever them if they really have a problem.
I just don't understand why you think the internet is an uncontrollable beast of a being that just can't be tamed.
The problem is, people don't want the problem solved, they want the problem to continue so they can sue and make money on it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733919</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247863500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This sounds suspiciously like many of the Mexicans that immigrate into the United States....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This sounds suspiciously like many of the Mexicans that immigrate into the United States... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sounds suspiciously like many of the Mexicans that immigrate into the United States....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733093</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247859480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't speak for the other countries, but I don't see why we in the Netherlands would want to annex Flanders. The Flemish broke off from the Netherlands for a reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't speak for the other countries , but I do n't see why we in the Netherlands would want to annex Flanders .
The Flemish broke off from the Netherlands for a reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't speak for the other countries, but I don't see why we in the Netherlands would want to annex Flanders.
The Flemish broke off from the Netherlands for a reason.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733499</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, wonderful internet, horrible internet</title>
	<author>bradley13</author>
	<datestamp>1247861520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"only our generation understands the truly public and universal nature of the internet"

</p><p>Um, which generation would that be? Depending on how you count it, there are serious numbers of Slashdot users across two or possibly three generations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" only our generation understands the truly public and universal nature of the internet " Um , which generation would that be ?
Depending on how you count it , there are serious numbers of Slashdot users across two or possibly three generations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"only our generation understands the truly public and universal nature of the internet"

Um, which generation would that be?
Depending on how you count it, there are serious numbers of Slashdot users across two or possibly three generations.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733377</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Councilor Hart</author>
	<datestamp>1247860980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Correction, Belgium broke off. <br>
The french ruling class of 1831 created Belgium, as an intermediate step to joining France. However, once Belgium was created they liked it so much that they gave up that idea.
For the longest of time, the Flemish (majority) has been second class citizens. Their culture and language suppressed. As the Flemish are taking back their culture and rights, the balance of power is shifting towards them. The Walloons have at the same time become the best protected minority in the world.

Belgium is experiencing since two years a political crisis, because the Flemish want more regional power. The Walloons want to keep it federal. They are afraid of losing power, influence and especially the yearly money transfers of billons of euros from Flanders to Wallonia. Flanders is one of the richest regions in the world, yet Walloon is a very poor region. In return for the social support, the Walloons spit on our culture and language. They continously threaten the Flemish territorial integrity and refuse to learn Dutch when they settle in Flanders. They are a bunch of arrogant, selfish bastards that threaten the welfare and future of, not only the Flemish people, but the entire Belgium population.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Correction , Belgium broke off .
The french ruling class of 1831 created Belgium , as an intermediate step to joining France .
However , once Belgium was created they liked it so much that they gave up that idea .
For the longest of time , the Flemish ( majority ) has been second class citizens .
Their culture and language suppressed .
As the Flemish are taking back their culture and rights , the balance of power is shifting towards them .
The Walloons have at the same time become the best protected minority in the world .
Belgium is experiencing since two years a political crisis , because the Flemish want more regional power .
The Walloons want to keep it federal .
They are afraid of losing power , influence and especially the yearly money transfers of billons of euros from Flanders to Wallonia .
Flanders is one of the richest regions in the world , yet Walloon is a very poor region .
In return for the social support , the Walloons spit on our culture and language .
They continously threaten the Flemish territorial integrity and refuse to learn Dutch when they settle in Flanders .
They are a bunch of arrogant , selfish bastards that threaten the welfare and future of , not only the Flemish people , but the entire Belgium population .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Correction, Belgium broke off.
The french ruling class of 1831 created Belgium, as an intermediate step to joining France.
However, once Belgium was created they liked it so much that they gave up that idea.
For the longest of time, the Flemish (majority) has been second class citizens.
Their culture and language suppressed.
As the Flemish are taking back their culture and rights, the balance of power is shifting towards them.
The Walloons have at the same time become the best protected minority in the world.
Belgium is experiencing since two years a political crisis, because the Flemish want more regional power.
The Walloons want to keep it federal.
They are afraid of losing power, influence and especially the yearly money transfers of billons of euros from Flanders to Wallonia.
Flanders is one of the richest regions in the world, yet Walloon is a very poor region.
In return for the social support, the Walloons spit on our culture and language.
They continously threaten the Flemish territorial integrity and refuse to learn Dutch when they settle in Flanders.
They are a bunch of arrogant, selfish bastards that threaten the welfare and future of, not only the Flemish people, but the entire Belgium population.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28735083</id>
	<title>Re:if the usa never existed</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1247825340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>sounding like an idiot because you want to put forth the idea that the usa is somehow magically the originator of a crime someone else committed
<br> <br>
example: the usa meddled in central america... therefore the usa is guilty of absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since. the usa meddled in the middle east... therefore the usa is responsible for absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since. etc., ad nauseum, and other such retarded thinking</p></div><p>If anyone doubts this: France helped the US gain independence, so France is responsible for US actions. US later freed France from the Nazis, therefore the US is responsible for France's actions. Ergo, France is responsible for France. Unless you somehow think France can be responsible for themselves this guy is right.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>sounding like an idiot because you want to put forth the idea that the usa is somehow magically the originator of a crime someone else committed example : the usa meddled in central america... therefore the usa is guilty of absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since .
the usa meddled in the middle east... therefore the usa is responsible for absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since .
etc. , ad nauseum , and other such retarded thinkingIf anyone doubts this : France helped the US gain independence , so France is responsible for US actions .
US later freed France from the Nazis , therefore the US is responsible for France 's actions .
Ergo , France is responsible for France .
Unless you somehow think France can be responsible for themselves this guy is right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sounding like an idiot because you want to put forth the idea that the usa is somehow magically the originator of a crime someone else committed
 
example: the usa meddled in central america... therefore the usa is guilty of absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since.
the usa meddled in the middle east... therefore the usa is responsible for absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since.
etc., ad nauseum, and other such retarded thinkingIf anyone doubts this: France helped the US gain independence, so France is responsible for US actions.
US later freed France from the Nazis, therefore the US is responsible for France's actions.
Ergo, France is responsible for France.
Unless you somehow think France can be responsible for themselves this guy is right.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28735205</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Mephistro</author>
	<datestamp>1247826120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>&gt; </p><p>On the other hand, we wouldn't want to share a border with France, so I'm in favor of keeping at least something of a buffer zone...</p></div><p>Are you afraid of accidentally invading France? Quite a common occurrence in the last centuries.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; On the other hand , we would n't want to share a border with France , so I 'm in favor of keeping at least something of a buffer zone...Are you afraid of accidentally invading France ?
Quite a common occurrence in the last centuries .
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; On the other hand, we wouldn't want to share a border with France, so I'm in favor of keeping at least something of a buffer zone...Are you afraid of accidentally invading France?
Quite a common occurrence in the last centuries.
;-)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28736661</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, wonderful internet, horrible internet</title>
	<author>girlintraining</author>
	<datestamp>1247835540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>they disagree with you, and they are the ones with the guns, jails and judges to enforce what they believe.</p></div><p>We outnumber them ten thousand to one, maybe more. They're going to need a lot more guns, jails, and judges.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>they disagree with you , and they are the ones with the guns , jails and judges to enforce what they believe.We outnumber them ten thousand to one , maybe more .
They 're going to need a lot more guns , jails , and judges .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they disagree with you, and they are the ones with the guns, jails and judges to enforce what they believe.We outnumber them ten thousand to one, maybe more.
They're going to need a lot more guns, jails, and judges.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733737</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>jim\_v2000</author>
	<datestamp>1247862540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, at least you have culture!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/American</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , at least you have culture !
/American</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, at least you have culture!
/American</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733895</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put the USA to sleep</title>
	<author>pitch2cv</author>
	<datestamp>1247863380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And, wasn't it the CIA who extracted individuals from wherever they please?
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=CIA+extract+learjet" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=CIA+extract+learjet</a> [google.com]

Why go through the hassle of ordering through court when one can unilaterally deceide to extract suspects from other sovereign countries?  Maybe Belgium should just send a Learjet and extract the Yahoo responsables, and question them in some marginal country in exchange for a batch of P90 machineguns.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And , was n't it the CIA who extracted individuals from wherever they please ?
http : //www.google.com/search ? q = CIA + extract + learjet [ google.com ] Why go through the hassle of ordering through court when one can unilaterally deceide to extract suspects from other sovereign countries ?
Maybe Belgium should just send a Learjet and extract the Yahoo responsables , and question them in some marginal country in exchange for a batch of P90 machineguns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And, wasn't it the CIA who extracted individuals from wherever they please?
http://www.google.com/search?q=CIA+extract+learjet [google.com]

Why go through the hassle of ordering through court when one can unilaterally deceide to extract suspects from other sovereign countries?
Maybe Belgium should just send a Learjet and extract the Yahoo responsables, and question them in some marginal country in exchange for a batch of P90 machineguns.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733233</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733573</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>CrashNBrn</author>
	<datestamp>1247861820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Turn it into a Hong Kong.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Turn it into a Hong Kong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Turn it into a Hong Kong.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732711</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734795</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247823840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For all I care Belgium can disintegrate.</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>You would have to pry Brussel from our cold dead hands, before we would let it join Wallonia.</p></div><p>You can't have a cake and eat it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For all I care Belgium can disintegrate.You would have to pry Brussel from our cold dead hands , before we would let it join Wallonia.You ca n't have a cake and eat it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all I care Belgium can disintegrate.You would have to pry Brussel from our cold dead hands, before we would let it join Wallonia.You can't have a cake and eat it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733255</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247860260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Belgium happens to feel very strongly over the Data Protection Act, and I've seeing the consequences first hand. Just because a nation is prepared to protect privacy and ensure companies stop taking liberties, doesn't mean we're dealing with extremists. If the US company doesn't want to follow European law and can't bribe the officials to turn a blind eye, they can fuck off out the country and conduct their business elsewhere.</p><p>Good bye, you won't be missed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Belgium happens to feel very strongly over the Data Protection Act , and I 've seeing the consequences first hand .
Just because a nation is prepared to protect privacy and ensure companies stop taking liberties , does n't mean we 're dealing with extremists .
If the US company does n't want to follow European law and ca n't bribe the officials to turn a blind eye , they can fuck off out the country and conduct their business elsewhere.Good bye , you wo n't be missed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Belgium happens to feel very strongly over the Data Protection Act, and I've seeing the consequences first hand.
Just because a nation is prepared to protect privacy and ensure companies stop taking liberties, doesn't mean we're dealing with extremists.
If the US company doesn't want to follow European law and can't bribe the officials to turn a blind eye, they can fuck off out the country and conduct their business elsewhere.Good bye, you won't be missed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732711</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733241</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247860140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>For all I care Belgium can disintegrate. If wallonia wants to join France, so be it. If Eupen want to join Germany, so be it. If both want to stay independent, so be it. I don't care.
But Flanders will become an independent republic. It would never join the Netherlands. You would have to pry Brussel from our cold dead hands, before we would let it join Wallonia. Or it could go to the EU as the DC capital of europe, which is also fine. Fighting over Brussel costs too much money, and we are a peaceful people anyway. But sending billions of euros to wallonia, while they spit on our culture and threaten our territorial integrity, has to stop.

Bonus point if you guess which side I am from.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For all I care Belgium can disintegrate .
If wallonia wants to join France , so be it .
If Eupen want to join Germany , so be it .
If both want to stay independent , so be it .
I do n't care .
But Flanders will become an independent republic .
It would never join the Netherlands .
You would have to pry Brussel from our cold dead hands , before we would let it join Wallonia .
Or it could go to the EU as the DC capital of europe , which is also fine .
Fighting over Brussel costs too much money , and we are a peaceful people anyway .
But sending billions of euros to wallonia , while they spit on our culture and threaten our territorial integrity , has to stop .
Bonus point if you guess which side I am from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all I care Belgium can disintegrate.
If wallonia wants to join France, so be it.
If Eupen want to join Germany, so be it.
If both want to stay independent, so be it.
I don't care.
But Flanders will become an independent republic.
It would never join the Netherlands.
You would have to pry Brussel from our cold dead hands, before we would let it join Wallonia.
Or it could go to the EU as the DC capital of europe, which is also fine.
Fighting over Brussel costs too much money, and we are a peaceful people anyway.
But sending billions of euros to wallonia, while they spit on our culture and threaten our territorial integrity, has to stop.
Bonus point if you guess which side I am from.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732711</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733187</id>
	<title>Re:Response</title>
	<author>shacky003</author>
	<datestamp>1247859900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Step 3) Keep PROFIT!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 3 ) Keep PROFIT !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 3) Keep PROFIT!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732953</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733269</id>
	<title>And all the other small countries were like...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247860380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Holy shit, we can do that?!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Holy shit , we can do that ? !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Holy shit, we can do that?!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733021</id>
	<title>My presidential demand</title>
	<author>sargon666777</author>
	<datestamp>1247859060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>/begin sarcasm<br>

public void the theInternet inherits BelgiumLaw,AmericanLaw,EuropeanLaw,AnyOtherStupidLaw<br>
{<br>
   return(null);<br>
}<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>/end sarcasm</htmltext>
<tokenext>/begin sarcasm public void the theInternet inherits BelgiumLaw,AmericanLaw,EuropeanLaw,AnyOtherStupidLaw { return ( null ) ; } /end sarcasm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/begin sarcasm

public void the theInternet inherits BelgiumLaw,AmericanLaw,EuropeanLaw,AnyOtherStupidLaw
{
   return(null);
} /end sarcasm</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733231</id>
	<title>if the usa never existed</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1247860080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>all of the horrible crimes you ascribe to the usa would still go on</p><p>please stop ascribing to american behavior that which is basically human behavior. its better to have an ideology that is based on some sort of principles, rather than mindless kneejerk anti-americanism</p><p>then you can still find america guilty of plenty of crimes, and rightfully so. but then you can extend that to find other countries guilty of many of those same crimes, without sounding like an idiot because you want to put forth the idea that the usa is somehow magically the originator of a crime someone else committed</p><p>example: the usa meddled in central america... therefore the usa is guilty of absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since. the usa meddled in the middle east... therefore the usa is responsible for absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since. etc., ad nauseum, and other such retarded thinking</p><p>dude: belgium is not "following the example of the United States". belgium is being retarded all by itself, all on its own. really</p><p>i now await the typical and retarded response: i'm a neocon imperialist dick cheney cocksucker, i'm from the lunatic right wing fringe. all because i ask for some logical coherence. can you tell the difference between a moderate opinion and a far right opinion?</p><p>please, go right on criticizing the usa. you may hate the usa all you want. go on with your bad self, be my guest, keep the venom flowing and the high holy moral outrage and indignation fresh. i fully support all the anti-american tirades you can muster. zzz</p><p>just try to notice at some point all of the other crimes committed by all the other countries in the world</p><p>k thx</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>all of the horrible crimes you ascribe to the usa would still go onplease stop ascribing to american behavior that which is basically human behavior .
its better to have an ideology that is based on some sort of principles , rather than mindless kneejerk anti-americanismthen you can still find america guilty of plenty of crimes , and rightfully so .
but then you can extend that to find other countries guilty of many of those same crimes , without sounding like an idiot because you want to put forth the idea that the usa is somehow magically the originator of a crime someone else committedexample : the usa meddled in central america... therefore the usa is guilty of absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since .
the usa meddled in the middle east... therefore the usa is responsible for absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since .
etc. , ad nauseum , and other such retarded thinkingdude : belgium is not " following the example of the United States " .
belgium is being retarded all by itself , all on its own .
reallyi now await the typical and retarded response : i 'm a neocon imperialist dick cheney cocksucker , i 'm from the lunatic right wing fringe .
all because i ask for some logical coherence .
can you tell the difference between a moderate opinion and a far right opinion ? please , go right on criticizing the usa .
you may hate the usa all you want .
go on with your bad self , be my guest , keep the venom flowing and the high holy moral outrage and indignation fresh .
i fully support all the anti-american tirades you can muster .
zzzjust try to notice at some point all of the other crimes committed by all the other countries in the worldk thx</tokentext>
<sentencetext>all of the horrible crimes you ascribe to the usa would still go onplease stop ascribing to american behavior that which is basically human behavior.
its better to have an ideology that is based on some sort of principles, rather than mindless kneejerk anti-americanismthen you can still find america guilty of plenty of crimes, and rightfully so.
but then you can extend that to find other countries guilty of many of those same crimes, without sounding like an idiot because you want to put forth the idea that the usa is somehow magically the originator of a crime someone else committedexample: the usa meddled in central america... therefore the usa is guilty of absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since.
the usa meddled in the middle east... therefore the usa is responsible for absolutely every crime committed there by every player ever since.
etc., ad nauseum, and other such retarded thinkingdude: belgium is not "following the example of the United States".
belgium is being retarded all by itself, all on its own.
reallyi now await the typical and retarded response: i'm a neocon imperialist dick cheney cocksucker, i'm from the lunatic right wing fringe.
all because i ask for some logical coherence.
can you tell the difference between a moderate opinion and a far right opinion?please, go right on criticizing the usa.
you may hate the usa all you want.
go on with your bad self, be my guest, keep the venom flowing and the high holy moral outrage and indignation fresh.
i fully support all the anti-american tirades you can muster.
zzzjust try to notice at some point all of the other crimes committed by all the other countries in the worldk thx</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732887</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734487</id>
	<title>Re:if the usa never existed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247822640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dude, buy a new keyboard.  Your shift key is broken.  Really.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , buy a new keyboard .
Your shift key is broken .
Really .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, buy a new keyboard.
Your shift key is broken.
Really.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733231</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732945</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>oldhack</author>
	<datestamp>1247858640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well past its time, a pissant country with profanity for name.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well past its time , a pissant country with profanity for name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well past its time, a pissant country with profanity for name.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732711</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28740231</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>skerit</author>
	<datestamp>1247927280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Indeed, it's stupid to think speaking the same language is enough to bind a country. The opposite does seam more likely, though.

Anyway, as nice as Dutch people are, there are immense differences between us.
And when Belgium finally does split I don't want to trade one monarchy for another...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , it 's stupid to think speaking the same language is enough to bind a country .
The opposite does seam more likely , though .
Anyway , as nice as Dutch people are , there are immense differences between us .
And when Belgium finally does split I do n't want to trade one monarchy for another.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, it's stupid to think speaking the same language is enough to bind a country.
The opposite does seam more likely, though.
Anyway, as nice as Dutch people are, there are immense differences between us.
And when Belgium finally does split I don't want to trade one monarchy for another...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734551</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247822880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a hard-working Walloon I really do take offense of your simplistic statements and insults. It's as if I mentioned 40\% of Flemish people are extreme-right voters with sympathies for the nazis. That's a simplistic view. Or is it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a hard-working Walloon I really do take offense of your simplistic statements and insults .
It 's as if I mentioned 40 \ % of Flemish people are extreme-right voters with sympathies for the nazis .
That 's a simplistic view .
Or is it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a hard-working Walloon I really do take offense of your simplistic statements and insults.
It's as if I mentioned 40\% of Flemish people are extreme-right voters with sympathies for the nazis.
That's a simplistic view.
Or is it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733377</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733317</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247860620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Belgium is doomed, it's not for nothing I left the country 7 years ago, I even dropped my citizenship, except for a couple of good products they happend to produce there, I'm ashamed to be born Belgian. I do not certainly brag about it.</p><p>Belgian official are a couple of old retarded that could retire any time soon, they never understood what the internet was and they'll never be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Belgium is doomed , it 's not for nothing I left the country 7 years ago , I even dropped my citizenship , except for a couple of good products they happend to produce there , I 'm ashamed to be born Belgian .
I do not certainly brag about it.Belgian official are a couple of old retarded that could retire any time soon , they never understood what the internet was and they 'll never be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Belgium is doomed, it's not for nothing I left the country 7 years ago, I even dropped my citizenship, except for a couple of good products they happend to produce there, I'm ashamed to be born Belgian.
I do not certainly brag about it.Belgian official are a couple of old retarded that could retire any time soon, they never understood what the internet was and they'll never be.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732711</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28735035</id>
	<title>I see the problem now...here's a solution!</title>
	<author>Black Sabbath</author>
	<datestamp>1247825100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>COMPANY: Aaargh! These f*cking Belgians are being royally dumb.</p><p>GOVERNMENT: Ahh yes. I see the problem now. Tricky isn't it? Obviously we don't want to make life hard for business, so the solution must be...<br>equalise all laws everywhere. Yes, that will do. Of course it will be hard to convince some countries, but if we show a willingness to put law and order first I'm certain that most countries will jump on board. That will provide business with the consistent operating environment it needs.</p><p>CITIZEN: WTF?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>COMPANY : Aaargh !
These f * cking Belgians are being royally dumb.GOVERNMENT : Ahh yes .
I see the problem now .
Tricky is n't it ?
Obviously we do n't want to make life hard for business , so the solution must be...equalise all laws everywhere .
Yes , that will do .
Of course it will be hard to convince some countries , but if we show a willingness to put law and order first I 'm certain that most countries will jump on board .
That will provide business with the consistent operating environment it needs.CITIZEN : WTF ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>COMPANY: Aaargh!
These f*cking Belgians are being royally dumb.GOVERNMENT: Ahh yes.
I see the problem now.
Tricky isn't it?
Obviously we don't want to make life hard for business, so the solution must be...equalise all laws everywhere.
Yes, that will do.
Of course it will be hard to convince some countries, but if we show a willingness to put law and order first I'm certain that most countries will jump on board.
That will provide business with the consistent operating environment it needs.CITIZEN: WTF?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733779</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put the USA to sleep</title>
	<author>socrplayr813</author>
	<datestamp>1247862720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While the US does sometimes create some funny examples, it did not invent this kind of idiocy.  Disputes like this have always happened, between lots of different groups.  It's just a new battleground now, which is more visible to the younger generations than previous examples.  And of course, the young people see the internet differently than the older generations.</p><p>Older folks continue to try to control it like they've controlled things in the past.  Younger folks proclaim the internet to be completely free and without restrictions.  While I would prefer the younger folks' ideal view, the truth will end up somewhere between the two, at least for the near future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While the US does sometimes create some funny examples , it did not invent this kind of idiocy .
Disputes like this have always happened , between lots of different groups .
It 's just a new battleground now , which is more visible to the younger generations than previous examples .
And of course , the young people see the internet differently than the older generations.Older folks continue to try to control it like they 've controlled things in the past .
Younger folks proclaim the internet to be completely free and without restrictions .
While I would prefer the younger folks ' ideal view , the truth will end up somewhere between the two , at least for the near future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While the US does sometimes create some funny examples, it did not invent this kind of idiocy.
Disputes like this have always happened, between lots of different groups.
It's just a new battleground now, which is more visible to the younger generations than previous examples.
And of course, the young people see the internet differently than the older generations.Older folks continue to try to control it like they've controlled things in the past.
Younger folks proclaim the internet to be completely free and without restrictions.
While I would prefer the younger folks' ideal view, the truth will end up somewhere between the two, at least for the near future.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733233</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732711</id>
	<title>Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>dysmey</author>
	<datestamp>1247857740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it reaches the point where Belgium, which is notorious for its disruptive behavior on the Internet, tries to extract money out of Yahoo! on the grounds of tortuous logic, as its press wing has tried to extort money out of Google, then maybe it is now time to dissolve the Belgian State and distribute its three regions between the Netherlands (Flanders), France (Wallonia) and Germany (Eupen).  These groups do not get along, anyway; and the only reason there is still a Belgium is that nobody knows what to do with the capital, Brussels, when the country does break up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it reaches the point where Belgium , which is notorious for its disruptive behavior on the Internet , tries to extract money out of Yahoo !
on the grounds of tortuous logic , as its press wing has tried to extort money out of Google , then maybe it is now time to dissolve the Belgian State and distribute its three regions between the Netherlands ( Flanders ) , France ( Wallonia ) and Germany ( Eupen ) .
These groups do not get along , anyway ; and the only reason there is still a Belgium is that nobody knows what to do with the capital , Brussels , when the country does break up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it reaches the point where Belgium, which is notorious for its disruptive behavior on the Internet, tries to extract money out of Yahoo!
on the grounds of tortuous logic, as its press wing has tried to extort money out of Google, then maybe it is now time to dissolve the Belgian State and distribute its three regions between the Netherlands (Flanders), France (Wallonia) and Germany (Eupen).
These groups do not get along, anyway; and the only reason there is still a Belgium is that nobody knows what to do with the capital, Brussels, when the country does break up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734249</id>
	<title>The Only Logical Outcome...</title>
	<author>Quantus347</author>
	<datestamp>1247821680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The only logical outcome is such a ruling were upheld on the international stage would be to segregate the Internet and seal the borders.  If one nations privacy laws can be so easily circumvented by any other country, then such protections are meaningless, and the internet cannot be maintained as global community.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only logical outcome is such a ruling were upheld on the international stage would be to segregate the Internet and seal the borders .
If one nations privacy laws can be so easily circumvented by any other country , then such protections are meaningless , and the internet can not be maintained as global community .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only logical outcome is such a ruling were upheld on the international stage would be to segregate the Internet and seal the borders.
If one nations privacy laws can be so easily circumvented by any other country, then such protections are meaningless, and the internet cannot be maintained as global community.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28737257</id>
	<title>Re:Response</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247840160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That should be</p><p>Step 1) Ignore the fine<br>Step 2) Don't go to Europe</p><p>Since most of Europe is in the EU inc. Belgium, a few nations like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are in the EEA which means among other thing extradition treaties, the rest of the continent has extradition treaties. That leads to :</p><p>Step 3) Explaining to your shareholder why you will not do business in the worlds largest market</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That should beStep 1 ) Ignore the fineStep 2 ) Do n't go to EuropeSince most of Europe is in the EU inc. Belgium , a few nations like Norway , Iceland and Switzerland are in the EEA which means among other thing extradition treaties , the rest of the continent has extradition treaties .
That leads to : Step 3 ) Explaining to your shareholder why you will not do business in the worlds largest market  </tokentext>
<sentencetext>That should beStep 1) Ignore the fineStep 2) Don't go to EuropeSince most of Europe is in the EU inc. Belgium, a few nations like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are in the EEA which means among other thing extradition treaties, the rest of the continent has extradition treaties.
That leads to :Step 3) Explaining to your shareholder why you will not do business in the worlds largest market
 </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732953</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734831</id>
	<title>Simple solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247823960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yahoo or any such provider should just cut off service in such countries with a notice of why.  Let the disgruntled user base take their country's politicians to task for their foolish laws.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yahoo or any such provider should just cut off service in such countries with a notice of why .
Let the disgruntled user base take their country 's politicians to task for their foolish laws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yahoo or any such provider should just cut off service in such countries with a notice of why.
Let the disgruntled user base take their country's politicians to task for their foolish laws.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733045</id>
	<title>Oh, wonderful internet, horrible internet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247859180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why is it that only our generation understands the truly public and universal nature of the internet? Nobody owns the internet, and nobody ever will. You can claim to own the wires, the equipment, the computers, the software, and every other component, but you still won't own the internet. The internet has given birth to an idea -- that we're all interconnected and nobody owns the spaces in between. This idea recurs generation after generation, only to die because society can't find a place for it.</p><p>Oh, but they'll try. They will cast their books down on our heads, scream a million epitaths of criminal, deviant, terrorists, and invent new terms to express their disgust. They'll arrest us, punish us, and wage massive campaigns of fear. But they'll never get the idea out of our heads that maybe, just maybe, we don't have to pay their tax to touch the life of another person.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is it that only our generation understands the truly public and universal nature of the internet ?
Nobody owns the internet , and nobody ever will .
You can claim to own the wires , the equipment , the computers , the software , and every other component , but you still wo n't own the internet .
The internet has given birth to an idea -- that we 're all interconnected and nobody owns the spaces in between .
This idea recurs generation after generation , only to die because society ca n't find a place for it.Oh , but they 'll try .
They will cast their books down on our heads , scream a million epitaths of criminal , deviant , terrorists , and invent new terms to express their disgust .
They 'll arrest us , punish us , and wage massive campaigns of fear .
But they 'll never get the idea out of our heads that maybe , just maybe , we do n't have to pay their tax to touch the life of another person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is it that only our generation understands the truly public and universal nature of the internet?
Nobody owns the internet, and nobody ever will.
You can claim to own the wires, the equipment, the computers, the software, and every other component, but you still won't own the internet.
The internet has given birth to an idea -- that we're all interconnected and nobody owns the spaces in between.
This idea recurs generation after generation, only to die because society can't find a place for it.Oh, but they'll try.
They will cast their books down on our heads, scream a million epitaths of criminal, deviant, terrorists, and invent new terms to express their disgust.
They'll arrest us, punish us, and wage massive campaigns of fear.
But they'll never get the idea out of our heads that maybe, just maybe, we don't have to pay their tax to touch the life of another person.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28739785</id>
	<title>yahoo's response should be to cut off Belgian</title>
	<author>alizard</author>
	<datestamp>1247921220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>access to its services <b>immediately</b> and without notice or warning.
<br> <br>
Belgian ex-users should be diverted to a page explaining that the government of Belgium has made it impossible for them to do business in Belgium and provide the names and contact information for every responsible official. The page can have a link to a detailed discussion of the issues, if desired.
<br> <br>Let the Belgian users decide whether they like their Yahoo services better than they like their bureaucrats. If they don't, Yahoo should find more profitable uses for its resources.</htmltext>
<tokenext>access to its services immediately and without notice or warning .
Belgian ex-users should be diverted to a page explaining that the government of Belgium has made it impossible for them to do business in Belgium and provide the names and contact information for every responsible official .
The page can have a link to a detailed discussion of the issues , if desired .
Let the Belgian users decide whether they like their Yahoo services better than they like their bureaucrats .
If they do n't , Yahoo should find more profitable uses for its resources .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>access to its services immediately and without notice or warning.
Belgian ex-users should be diverted to a page explaining that the government of Belgium has made it impossible for them to do business in Belgium and provide the names and contact information for every responsible official.
The page can have a link to a detailed discussion of the issues, if desired.
Let the Belgian users decide whether they like their Yahoo services better than they like their bureaucrats.
If they don't, Yahoo should find more profitable uses for its resources.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732953</id>
	<title>Response</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247858700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Step 1)  Ignore the fine<br>Step 2)  Don't go to Belgium</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 1 ) Ignore the fineStep 2 ) Do n't go to Belgium</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 1)  Ignore the fineStep 2)  Don't go to Belgium</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734897</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put the USA to sleep</title>
	<author>DaFallus</author>
	<datestamp>1247824440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Let's not forget the USA's actions against foreign based gambling operations. The USA started this type of action!</p></div></blockquote><p>

Right, because that makes it ok...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's not forget the USA 's actions against foreign based gambling operations .
The USA started this type of action !
Right , because that makes it ok.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's not forget the USA's actions against foreign based gambling operations.
The USA started this type of action!
Right, because that makes it ok...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733233</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733161</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>basementman</author>
	<datestamp>1247859780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about the waffles?
Won't anyone think of the waffles?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the waffles ?
Wo n't anyone think of the waffles ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the waffles?
Won't anyone think of the waffles?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732711</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733883</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put the USA to sleep</title>
	<author>glebovitz</author>
	<datestamp>1247863260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe you could backup your claims with a reference? Otherwise, you leave the rest of us in the dark.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe you could backup your claims with a reference ?
Otherwise , you leave the rest of us in the dark .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe you could backup your claims with a reference?
Otherwise, you leave the rest of us in the dark.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733233</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28835517</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>PastaLover</author>
	<datestamp>1248701100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No matter what accommodations are made they just don't seem to be enough for the more vehement rabble-rousers in Flanders.</p><p>And of course, Flanders was dependent on Wallonia in the past, they just have a really short memory now that the economic shoe has shifted.</p></div><p>You would do well not to speak in such general terms. It's this kind of us vs them mentality which perpetuates the age-old problems. Flanders and Wallonia still have a lot in common, including a tendency to point the finger at others for their own problems.</p><p>I especially like how we managed to regionalize certain federal responsibilities, only to turn around and complain when the other region enacts policies we don't like. Human nature at work.</p><p>In any case, to get slightly more on-topic, it's not "Belgium" that is suing yahoo. That would mean the Belgian government would be somehow involved. Rather, this is a single court case in a single court. Yahoo probably has to deal with hundreds of court cases like this. It's techdirt, can safely be ignored, really.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No matter what accommodations are made they just do n't seem to be enough for the more vehement rabble-rousers in Flanders.And of course , Flanders was dependent on Wallonia in the past , they just have a really short memory now that the economic shoe has shifted.You would do well not to speak in such general terms .
It 's this kind of us vs them mentality which perpetuates the age-old problems .
Flanders and Wallonia still have a lot in common , including a tendency to point the finger at others for their own problems.I especially like how we managed to regionalize certain federal responsibilities , only to turn around and complain when the other region enacts policies we do n't like .
Human nature at work.In any case , to get slightly more on-topic , it 's not " Belgium " that is suing yahoo .
That would mean the Belgian government would be somehow involved .
Rather , this is a single court case in a single court .
Yahoo probably has to deal with hundreds of court cases like this .
It 's techdirt , can safely be ignored , really .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No matter what accommodations are made they just don't seem to be enough for the more vehement rabble-rousers in Flanders.And of course, Flanders was dependent on Wallonia in the past, they just have a really short memory now that the economic shoe has shifted.You would do well not to speak in such general terms.
It's this kind of us vs them mentality which perpetuates the age-old problems.
Flanders and Wallonia still have a lot in common, including a tendency to point the finger at others for their own problems.I especially like how we managed to regionalize certain federal responsibilities, only to turn around and complain when the other region enacts policies we don't like.
Human nature at work.In any case, to get slightly more on-topic, it's not "Belgium" that is suing yahoo.
That would mean the Belgian government would be somehow involved.
Rather, this is a single court case in a single court.
Yahoo probably has to deal with hundreds of court cases like this.
It's techdirt, can safely be ignored, really.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734933</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734041</id>
	<title>Quid pro quo, or something along those lines?</title>
	<author>RobVB</author>
	<datestamp>1247863980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not too long ago a number of European countries (Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Andorra and Belgium, possibly more) at least partially gave up their banking secrecy after being pressured by the US, because the US wanted that information to fight fraud. Now Belgium is asking for information and suddenly privacy becomes an insurmountable issue.</p><p>I'm not defending the way this requesting and sharing of information is going, and I'm not defending Belgium for trying to bypass privacy laws, but I do think it's awfully hypocritical of the United States to quickly hide behind their privacy laws after making us change ours.</p><p>And another thing - why do people immediately suggest to "Put Belgium to Sleep" when it causes a problem in the international community? Instead of focusing on the issue at hand, they think dividing this country among its neighbors will fix everything? In a discussion about American sovereignty on a very important issue, don't forget to respect Belgian sovereignty on an even more important one. The continued existence of the Belgian state is something its citizens, and its citizens alone, should decide about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not too long ago a number of European countries ( Switzerland , Liechtenstein , Andorra and Belgium , possibly more ) at least partially gave up their banking secrecy after being pressured by the US , because the US wanted that information to fight fraud .
Now Belgium is asking for information and suddenly privacy becomes an insurmountable issue.I 'm not defending the way this requesting and sharing of information is going , and I 'm not defending Belgium for trying to bypass privacy laws , but I do think it 's awfully hypocritical of the United States to quickly hide behind their privacy laws after making us change ours.And another thing - why do people immediately suggest to " Put Belgium to Sleep " when it causes a problem in the international community ?
Instead of focusing on the issue at hand , they think dividing this country among its neighbors will fix everything ?
In a discussion about American sovereignty on a very important issue , do n't forget to respect Belgian sovereignty on an even more important one .
The continued existence of the Belgian state is something its citizens , and its citizens alone , should decide about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not too long ago a number of European countries (Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Andorra and Belgium, possibly more) at least partially gave up their banking secrecy after being pressured by the US, because the US wanted that information to fight fraud.
Now Belgium is asking for information and suddenly privacy becomes an insurmountable issue.I'm not defending the way this requesting and sharing of information is going, and I'm not defending Belgium for trying to bypass privacy laws, but I do think it's awfully hypocritical of the United States to quickly hide behind their privacy laws after making us change ours.And another thing - why do people immediately suggest to "Put Belgium to Sleep" when it causes a problem in the international community?
Instead of focusing on the issue at hand, they think dividing this country among its neighbors will fix everything?
In a discussion about American sovereignty on a very important issue, don't forget to respect Belgian sovereignty on an even more important one.
The continued existence of the Belgian state is something its citizens, and its citizens alone, should decide about.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733175</id>
	<title>Douglas Adams was onto something...</title>
	<author>3waygeek</author>
	<datestamp>1247859840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>when he provided us with the <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/hitchhikers/guide/belgium.shtml" title="bbc.co.uk">true definition</a> [bbc.co.uk] of Belgium.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>when he provided us with the true definition [ bbc.co.uk ] of Belgium .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when he provided us with the true definition [bbc.co.uk] of Belgium.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733077</id>
	<title>Coming on the heels of the British NPG story...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247859360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm curious to compare and contrast the reaction to this story with the reaction to the National Public Gallery's legal threats over in the recent <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/07/17/085244/New-Developments-In-NPGWikipedia-Lawsuit-Threat" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/07/17/085244/New-Developments-In-NPGWikipedia-Lawsuit-Threat</a> [slashdot.org] story. I've frankly already been surprised at how many Slashdotters have supported the NPG's approach to copyright law. This one's addressing privacy, let's see how it goes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm curious to compare and contrast the reaction to this story with the reaction to the National Public Gallery 's legal threats over in the recent http : //news.slashdot.org/story/09/07/17/085244/New-Developments-In-NPGWikipedia-Lawsuit-Threat [ slashdot.org ] story .
I 've frankly already been surprised at how many Slashdotters have supported the NPG 's approach to copyright law .
This one 's addressing privacy , let 's see how it goes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm curious to compare and contrast the reaction to this story with the reaction to the National Public Gallery's legal threats over in the recent http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/07/17/085244/New-Developments-In-NPGWikipedia-Lawsuit-Threat [slashdot.org] story.
I've frankly already been surprised at how many Slashdotters have supported the NPG's approach to copyright law.
This one's addressing privacy, let's see how it goes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734063</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put the USA to sleep</title>
	<author>Atrox666</author>
	<datestamp>1247864100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually the restraint of lawful trade and is illegal under several trade agreement.
The US the world over are known as lying scum who never EVER follow the agreements they sign.
(i.e. NAFTA ) ask a Native how well they respect treaties.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually the restraint of lawful trade and is illegal under several trade agreement .
The US the world over are known as lying scum who never EVER follow the agreements they sign .
( i.e. NAFTA ) ask a Native how well they respect treaties .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually the restraint of lawful trade and is illegal under several trade agreement.
The US the world over are known as lying scum who never EVER follow the agreements they sign.
(i.e. NAFTA ) ask a Native how well they respect treaties.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733635</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732791</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>beakburke</author>
	<datestamp>1247858040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since Brussels is the headquarters of the EU, maybe you could DC it. An independent city under the jurisdiction of the EU.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since Brussels is the headquarters of the EU , maybe you could DC it .
An independent city under the jurisdiction of the EU .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since Brussels is the headquarters of the EU, maybe you could DC it.
An independent city under the jurisdiction of the EU.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732711</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733067</id>
	<title>Re:Response</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247859240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Step 1)  Ignore the fine<br>Step 2)  Don't go to Belgium</p></div><p>step 3) Profit!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 1 ) Ignore the fineStep 2 ) Do n't go to Belgiumstep 3 ) Profit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 1)  Ignore the fineStep 2)  Don't go to Belgiumstep 3) Profit!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28732953</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734451</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>damienl451</author>
	<datestamp>1247822520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I knew you were a Fleming when I read your first sentence. So am I FYI, and I fully support Flemish independance, but could you *please* get your history right?</p><p>For starters, the was a ruling class that *spoke* French. But they were not French or Walloons. I hate to break it to you but if the elite in Flanders were French-speaking Flemings! They only spoke French because it was fashionable to do so. Just like the lower-classes in Wallonia spoke... Walloon (not French).</p><p>Now, once again, I'm sorry to rain on your parade, but those who fought for independence were mostly Flemish-speaking inhabitants of Brussels. Who was *opposed* to independance? The French-speaking (Flemish) upper-classes in Antwerp and Ghent, because they derived their wealth from trade with the Dutch and Indonesia.</p><p>As for the current political situation, what business of mine is it what language my neighbors speak? For all that matters, they can speak Chinese, I don't care!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I knew you were a Fleming when I read your first sentence .
So am I FYI , and I fully support Flemish independance , but could you * please * get your history right ? For starters , the was a ruling class that * spoke * French .
But they were not French or Walloons .
I hate to break it to you but if the elite in Flanders were French-speaking Flemings !
They only spoke French because it was fashionable to do so .
Just like the lower-classes in Wallonia spoke... Walloon ( not French ) .Now , once again , I 'm sorry to rain on your parade , but those who fought for independence were mostly Flemish-speaking inhabitants of Brussels .
Who was * opposed * to independance ?
The French-speaking ( Flemish ) upper-classes in Antwerp and Ghent , because they derived their wealth from trade with the Dutch and Indonesia.As for the current political situation , what business of mine is it what language my neighbors speak ?
For all that matters , they can speak Chinese , I do n't care !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I knew you were a Fleming when I read your first sentence.
So am I FYI, and I fully support Flemish independance, but could you *please* get your history right?For starters, the was a ruling class that *spoke* French.
But they were not French or Walloons.
I hate to break it to you but if the elite in Flanders were French-speaking Flemings!
They only spoke French because it was fashionable to do so.
Just like the lower-classes in Wallonia spoke... Walloon (not French).Now, once again, I'm sorry to rain on your parade, but those who fought for independence were mostly Flemish-speaking inhabitants of Brussels.
Who was *opposed* to independance?
The French-speaking (Flemish) upper-classes in Antwerp and Ghent, because they derived their wealth from trade with the Dutch and Indonesia.As for the current political situation, what business of mine is it what language my neighbors speak?
For all that matters, they can speak Chinese, I don't care!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28733377</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28734933</id>
	<title>Re:Let's Put Belgium To Sleep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247824560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah yes. The old complaint "they piss on our culture and we send them billions of dollars" - of course you can always tell what part of Belgium is Flanders by the fact that everything is splashed with the colours - insecure, anyone?  No matter what accommodations are made they just don't seem to be enough for the more vehement rabble-rousers in Flanders.</p><p>And of course, Flanders was dependent on Wallonia in the past, they just have a really short memory now that the economic shoe has shifted.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes .
The old complaint " they piss on our culture and we send them billions of dollars " - of course you can always tell what part of Belgium is Flanders by the fact that everything is splashed with the colours - insecure , anyone ?
No matter what accommodations are made they just do n't seem to be enough for the more vehement rabble-rousers in Flanders.And of course , Flanders was dependent on Wallonia in the past , they just have a really short memory now that the economic shoe has shifted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes.
The old complaint "they piss on our culture and we send them billions of dollars" - of course you can always tell what part of Belgium is Flanders by the fact that everything is splashed with the colours - insecure, anyone?
No matter what accommodations are made they just don't seem to be enough for the more vehement rabble-rousers in Flanders.And of course, Flanders was dependent on Wallonia in the past, they just have a really short memory now that the economic shoe has shifted.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_17_1550212.28737795</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, wonderful internet, horrible internet</title>
	<author>hot soldering iron</author>
	<datestamp>1247845320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>they disagree with you, and they are the ones with the guns, jails and judges to enforce what they believe.</p></div><p>Only for a short time. Ideas are infectious, and you can catch a meme even easier than a cold. Once the truth and success of our ideas are blatant to all, our opponents will stand revealed in their fear, greed, and desire to oppress. No one likes to think that they are evil, just "smart" or "prudent". But our opponents won't be able to hide behind false labels any more, and they will hate us without forgiveness or mercy, for making them see themselves as they truly are.</p></div>
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<tokenext>they disagree with you , and they are the ones with the guns , jails and judges to enforce what they believe.Only for a short time .
Ideas are infectious , and you can catch a meme even easier than a cold .
Once the truth and success of our ideas are blatant to all , our opponents will stand revealed in their fear , greed , and desire to oppress .
No one likes to think that they are evil , just " smart " or " prudent " .
But our opponents wo n't be able to hide behind false labels any more , and they will hate us without forgiveness or mercy , for making them see themselves as they truly are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they disagree with you, and they are the ones with the guns, jails and judges to enforce what they believe.Only for a short time.
Ideas are infectious, and you can catch a meme even easier than a cold.
Once the truth and success of our ideas are blatant to all, our opponents will stand revealed in their fear, greed, and desire to oppress.
No one likes to think that they are evil, just "smart" or "prudent".
But our opponents won't be able to hide behind false labels any more, and they will hate us without forgiveness or mercy, for making them see themselves as they truly are.
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