<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_16_206229</id>
	<title>NASA Releases Restored Apollo 11 Video, But Originals Lost</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1247732400000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.leetrout.com/" rel="nofollow">leetrout</a> writes <i>"I attended a media briefing held by NASA at the <a href="http://www.newseum.com/">Newseum</a> in Washington, D.C. this morning where they <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/jul/16/moon-landing-tapes-erased">released restored video of the Apollo 11 mission</a>.  The clips released are about 40\% of the total footage to be restored by September by Lowry Digital in Burbank, CA.  <a href="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/07/moonwalkvideo/">Wired has all the clips</a>.  A couple remarkable comments made during the briefing included the opinion from the original footage search committee that the original slow scan footage (stored as a single track on telemetry tapes) has been lost forever as the tapes were likely recycled by the mid '80s (apparently common NASA practice).  Also, that someone from the applied physics laboratory was in Australia converting the slow scan directly to video.  This differs from NASA's goal of merely broadcasting the event, at which it was successful.  Unfortunately, no one knows where those tapes of approximately two hours of footage are located."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>leetrout writes " I attended a media briefing held by NASA at the Newseum in Washington , D.C. this morning where they released restored video of the Apollo 11 mission .
The clips released are about 40 \ % of the total footage to be restored by September by Lowry Digital in Burbank , CA .
Wired has all the clips .
A couple remarkable comments made during the briefing included the opinion from the original footage search committee that the original slow scan footage ( stored as a single track on telemetry tapes ) has been lost forever as the tapes were likely recycled by the mid '80s ( apparently common NASA practice ) .
Also , that someone from the applied physics laboratory was in Australia converting the slow scan directly to video .
This differs from NASA 's goal of merely broadcasting the event , at which it was successful .
Unfortunately , no one knows where those tapes of approximately two hours of footage are located .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>leetrout writes "I attended a media briefing held by NASA at the Newseum in Washington, D.C. this morning where they released restored video of the Apollo 11 mission.
The clips released are about 40\% of the total footage to be restored by September by Lowry Digital in Burbank, CA.
Wired has all the clips.
A couple remarkable comments made during the briefing included the opinion from the original footage search committee that the original slow scan footage (stored as a single track on telemetry tapes) has been lost forever as the tapes were likely recycled by the mid '80s (apparently common NASA practice).
Also, that someone from the applied physics laboratory was in Australia converting the slow scan directly to video.
This differs from NASA's goal of merely broadcasting the event, at which it was successful.
Unfortunately, no one knows where those tapes of approximately two hours of footage are located.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722695</id>
	<title>Re:An interesting PR problem</title>
	<author>yamfry</author>
	<datestamp>1247738520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even if the tapes were real, you have no way of knowing if the restored information is genuine or inserted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if the tapes were real , you have no way of knowing if the restored information is genuine or inserted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if the tapes were real, you have no way of knowing if the restored information is genuine or inserted.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722133</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722441</id>
	<title>I thought they were found...</title>
	<author>warmgun</author>
	<datestamp>1247737320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/07/16/206229" title="slashdot.org">A story</a> [slashdot.org] appeared on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. 3 days ago that they were found.  WTF?  Thanks for getting our hopes up.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</htmltext>
<tokenext>A story [ slashdot.org ] appeared on / .
3 days ago that they were found .
WTF ? Thanks for getting our hopes up .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A story [slashdot.org] appeared on /.
3 days ago that they were found.
WTF?  Thanks for getting our hopes up.
:(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722671</id>
	<title>What the motherfuck!</title>
	<author>DragonTHC</author>
	<datestamp>1247738400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>[the] original slow scan footage has been lost forever as the tapes were likely recycled by the mid '80s.</p></div></blockquote><p>Ok so what you're telling me is, the most important event in the history of the human race was taped over?</p><p>How convenient.  I want to see recent telescope pictures of the moon showing the rovers and the flag.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ the ] original slow scan footage has been lost forever as the tapes were likely recycled by the mid '80s.Ok so what you 're telling me is , the most important event in the history of the human race was taped over ? How convenient .
I want to see recent telescope pictures of the moon showing the rovers and the flag .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[the] original slow scan footage has been lost forever as the tapes were likely recycled by the mid '80s.Ok so what you're telling me is, the most important event in the history of the human race was taped over?How convenient.
I want to see recent telescope pictures of the moon showing the rovers and the flag.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722253</id>
	<title>AND NOW A JOKE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247736660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's the easiest way to cut off a nigger's dick?  Kick a white woman in the jaw!</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the easiest way to cut off a nigger 's dick ?
Kick a white woman in the jaw !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the easiest way to cut off a nigger's dick?
Kick a white woman in the jaw!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722073</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723671</id>
	<title>I bet some collector has them</title>
	<author>democrates</author>
	<datestamp>1247742960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When something of high value goes missing it's usually due to theft rather than incompetence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When something of high value goes missing it 's usually due to theft rather than incompetence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When something of high value goes missing it's usually due to theft rather than incompetence.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722983</id>
	<title>How in the hell did they tape over them? Seriously</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247739900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"oh it is just the moon tapes... no one will want them"</p><p>Doubtful</p><p>So a collection of acid heads and stoners could tape and preserve thousands of Grateful Dead shows.. all while stoned off of their asses... and then manage to keep and distribute the tapes they made for 30 years ( in good quality mind ya), whilst NASA spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the Apollo program and then LOST and/or RECYCLED the tapes?</p><p>Bullshit. This doesn't add up, and I am a space junkie.</p><p>There is no way that the tapes were lost by accident....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" oh it is just the moon tapes... no one will want them " DoubtfulSo a collection of acid heads and stoners could tape and preserve thousands of Grateful Dead shows.. all while stoned off of their asses... and then manage to keep and distribute the tapes they made for 30 years ( in good quality mind ya ) , whilst NASA spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the Apollo program and then LOST and/or RECYCLED the tapes ? Bullshit .
This does n't add up , and I am a space junkie.There is no way that the tapes were lost by accident... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"oh it is just the moon tapes... no one will want them"DoubtfulSo a collection of acid heads and stoners could tape and preserve thousands of Grateful Dead shows.. all while stoned off of their asses... and then manage to keep and distribute the tapes they made for 30 years ( in good quality mind ya), whilst NASA spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the Apollo program and then LOST and/or RECYCLED the tapes?Bullshit.
This doesn't add up, and I am a space junkie.There is no way that the tapes were lost by accident....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28727595</id>
	<title>Re:An interesting PR problem</title>
	<author>ZeroExistenZ</author>
	<datestamp>1247831160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Especially after the news of June 28 2009: <a href="http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/110442/WORLD-EXCLUSIVE-NASA-finds-missing-moon-landing-tapes" title="express.co.uk">NASA finds missing moon-landing-tapes.</a> [express.co.uk] and all conspiracy theorist cringled... "oh no, what will I do now?"<br> <br>
A month ago, NASA announces "We've found them!", now they say "oh, they were erased (and it took us a month). But we restored a the thing you've already seen for you!"</p><p>Conspiracy theorist have something to do with their time once again.<br> <br> I for one am waiting for the next headline: "the real moontapes leaked, torrent here", with yeti's UFO's and chuck norris, in spectacular 3D, with Bob from accounting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Especially after the news of June 28 2009 : NASA finds missing moon-landing-tapes .
[ express.co.uk ] and all conspiracy theorist cringled... " oh no , what will I do now ?
" A month ago , NASA announces " We 've found them !
" , now they say " oh , they were erased ( and it took us a month ) .
But we restored a the thing you 've already seen for you !
" Conspiracy theorist have something to do with their time once again .
I for one am waiting for the next headline : " the real moontapes leaked , torrent here " , with yeti 's UFO 's and chuck norris , in spectacular 3D , with Bob from accounting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Especially after the news of June 28 2009: NASA finds missing moon-landing-tapes.
[express.co.uk] and all conspiracy theorist cringled... "oh no, what will I do now?
" 
A month ago, NASA announces "We've found them!
", now they say "oh, they were erased (and it took us a month).
But we restored a the thing you've already seen for you!
"Conspiracy theorist have something to do with their time once again.
I for one am waiting for the next headline: "the real moontapes leaked, torrent here", with yeti's UFO's and chuck norris, in spectacular 3D, with Bob from accounting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722133</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28724769</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247749620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Incredible (i.e., not credible), and how convenient it is!

It's clear that such mishap is NASA's way to destroy evidence.
Those tapes were produced to cheat ancient TV viewers, how can they sustain modern examination?
I would like to know which modern scientists still support NASA's moon-landing claim.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Incredible ( i.e. , not credible ) , and how convenient it is !
It 's clear that such mishap is NASA 's way to destroy evidence .
Those tapes were produced to cheat ancient TV viewers , how can they sustain modern examination ?
I would like to know which modern scientists still support NASA 's moon-landing claim .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Incredible (i.e., not credible), and how convenient it is!
It's clear that such mishap is NASA's way to destroy evidence.
Those tapes were produced to cheat ancient TV viewers, how can they sustain modern examination?
I would like to know which modern scientists still support NASA's moon-landing claim.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722245</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28777779</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>SlaveToSoftware</author>
	<datestamp>1248190920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Heck, most people didn't even have colored TVs at that time.</p></div><p>I don't mean to be overly PC, but these days most prefer African-American TV.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heck , most people did n't even have colored TVs at that time.I do n't mean to be overly PC , but these days most prefer African-American TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heck, most people didn't even have colored TVs at that time.I don't mean to be overly PC, but these days most prefer African-American TV.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722515</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28728275</id>
	<title>Re:An interesting PR problem</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1247838420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly, and now having this great story, and losing the originals, that might have contained something some expert could have been able to contest as having been faked in some studio, now we really will never know, because they now admit to having been remastered.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly , and now having this great story , and losing the originals , that might have contained something some expert could have been able to contest as having been faked in some studio , now we really will never know , because they now admit to having been remastered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly, and now having this great story, and losing the originals, that might have contained something some expert could have been able to contest as having been faked in some studio, now we really will never know, because they now admit to having been remastered.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722133</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28725117</id>
	<title>Something isn't quite right...</title>
	<author>HumanEmulator</author>
	<datestamp>1247752620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I never thought I'd be a moon doubter, but if you <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mouUUWpEec0&amp;feature=player\_embedded" title="youtube.com">watch the newly released footage carefully</a> [youtube.com] it does seem fishy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I never thought I 'd be a moon doubter , but if you watch the newly released footage carefully [ youtube.com ] it does seem fishy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I never thought I'd be a moon doubter, but if you watch the newly released footage carefully [youtube.com] it does seem fishy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28724441</id>
	<title>No Surprise</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247747160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look - they have a 2020 timetable to go back.  It seems as if they have some technical hurdles to surpass<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... as if they had never gone to the moon before.</p><p>Had the original tapes been found, they would have been subject to analysis.  This "loss" was to be expected under the circumstances.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look - they have a 2020 timetable to go back .
It seems as if they have some technical hurdles to surpass ... as if they had never gone to the moon before.Had the original tapes been found , they would have been subject to analysis .
This " loss " was to be expected under the circumstances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look - they have a 2020 timetable to go back.
It seems as if they have some technical hurdles to surpass ... as if they had never gone to the moon before.Had the original tapes been found, they would have been subject to analysis.
This "loss" was to be expected under the circumstances.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28727561</id>
	<title>Re:Something isn't quite right...</title>
	<author>dzfoo</author>
	<datestamp>1247830620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't seen the new footage, but are there really fish on the moon?</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -dZ.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't seen the new footage , but are there really fish on the moon ?
          -dZ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't seen the new footage, but are there really fish on the moon?
          -dZ.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28725117</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722817</id>
	<title>Missing Two Hours of Footage</title>
	<author>DavidD\_CA</author>
	<datestamp>1247739240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Unfortunately, no one knows where those tapes of approximately two hours of footage are located.</p></div></blockquote><p>Anyone who has seen Contact knows <i>exactly</i> what happened.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , no one knows where those tapes of approximately two hours of footage are located.Anyone who has seen Contact knows exactly what happened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, no one knows where those tapes of approximately two hours of footage are located.Anyone who has seen Contact knows exactly what happened.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28724893</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>SETIGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1247750640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Its incredible to me that NASA wouldn't think far enough ahead to save these tapes for posterity's sake.</p></div><p>You can thank Congress for that one.
<br>
<br>
<b>NASA Program Manager:</b>  Hi, Mr. Congressman, can we have a few thousand dollars to buy tapes so we can record the data from the Voyager flyby of Jupiter?
<br>
<b>Congressman:</b>  What happened to all those tapes we bought you in the late 60s?
<br>
<b>NASA Program Manager:</b> We used all those on Apollo.
<br>
<b>Congressman:</b>  Here's 25 bucks.  Go down to K-mart and buy a bulk eraser.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its incredible to me that NASA would n't think far enough ahead to save these tapes for posterity 's sake.You can thank Congress for that one .
NASA Program Manager : Hi , Mr. Congressman , can we have a few thousand dollars to buy tapes so we can record the data from the Voyager flyby of Jupiter ?
Congressman : What happened to all those tapes we bought you in the late 60s ?
NASA Program Manager : We used all those on Apollo .
Congressman : Here 's 25 bucks .
Go down to K-mart and buy a bulk eraser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its incredible to me that NASA wouldn't think far enough ahead to save these tapes for posterity's sake.You can thank Congress for that one.
NASA Program Manager:  Hi, Mr. Congressman, can we have a few thousand dollars to buy tapes so we can record the data from the Voyager flyby of Jupiter?
Congressman:  What happened to all those tapes we bought you in the late 60s?
NASA Program Manager: We used all those on Apollo.
Congressman:  Here's 25 bucks.
Go down to K-mart and buy a bulk eraser.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28724043</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>TheoMurpse</author>
	<datestamp>1247744820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>THAT'S ONE SMALL step......FOR MAAANNN</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>THAT 'S ONE SMALL step......FOR MAAANNN</tokentext>
<sentencetext>THAT'S ONE SMALL step......FOR MAAANNN</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722475</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722889</id>
	<title>Re:I thought they were found...</title>
	<author>BikeHelmet</author>
	<datestamp>1247739480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And a few weeks before that, speculation that they hadn't actually been found! And a week before that, rumour that they had been found!</p><p>A few weeks from now, someone will "discover" the actual tapes.</p><p>And a week after that, they will discover they are the actual tapes, but already overwritten with other stuff.</p><p>Hey, do you like Ping Pong? It's fun.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And a few weeks before that , speculation that they had n't actually been found !
And a week before that , rumour that they had been found ! A few weeks from now , someone will " discover " the actual tapes.And a week after that , they will discover they are the actual tapes , but already overwritten with other stuff.Hey , do you like Ping Pong ?
It 's fun .
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And a few weeks before that, speculation that they hadn't actually been found!
And a week before that, rumour that they had been found!A few weeks from now, someone will "discover" the actual tapes.And a week after that, they will discover they are the actual tapes, but already overwritten with other stuff.Hey, do you like Ping Pong?
It's fun.
:D</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28732331</id>
	<title>Warehouse Storage</title>
	<author>RayHs</author>
	<datestamp>1247856060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The blame should go to the guy who put it in the same warehouse as the Crystal Skull.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The blame should go to the guy who put it in the same warehouse as the Crystal Skull .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The blame should go to the guy who put it in the same warehouse as the Crystal Skull.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28726183</id>
	<title>Still stirs up strong emotion</title>
	<author>spire3661</author>
	<datestamp>1247766240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wasnt even born then and seeing that footage still makes me feel like a child.... What a crown jewel of human ingenuity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wasnt even born then and seeing that footage still makes me feel like a child.... What a crown jewel of human ingenuity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wasnt even born then and seeing that footage still makes me feel like a child.... What a crown jewel of human ingenuity.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723907</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1247744160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think it is "incredible" in the sense of "impossible to believe".  It's all to easy to believe.</p><p>You see the people of the US (as a whole) lost interest in the whole thing once we'd done the Moon once or twice.  NASA didn't even have the money to buy <em>mag tapes</em> for the satellite data they were collecting, which anybody with half a brain would see is worthwhile once you'd went through the trouble of putting a satellite up there.  Now how many people would understand that cataloging conserving digital media was something that took money? Back in the 80's?  The 70s?</p><p>It takes a great deal of effort to turn a book into a palimpsest.  So reasoning from what people knew about information storage, the attitude would be that it'd take some effort to lose this data.  But overwriting a mag tape is as easy as writing it in the first place.</p><p>This is just the sort of thing that in the late 60s might have overlooked. And then, and then, one of the most powerful of human cognitive bugs does the rest.  It is the dog that does not bark in the night. Since anybody could see this sort of thing <em>ought</em> to have been preserved, it is but a short leap to the assumption that <em>somebody must have done it</em>.   There are two ways such an oversight can be caught. The first would be that somebody decides they wanted this information and go looking for it.  The second is somebody thinks to check that what seems plainly obvious to do had in fact been done.  Being something of a fan of the last approach, I can tell you that advocating for it, especially if it costs money, is not something that makes you popular with your boss.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think it is " incredible " in the sense of " impossible to believe " .
It 's all to easy to believe.You see the people of the US ( as a whole ) lost interest in the whole thing once we 'd done the Moon once or twice .
NASA did n't even have the money to buy mag tapes for the satellite data they were collecting , which anybody with half a brain would see is worthwhile once you 'd went through the trouble of putting a satellite up there .
Now how many people would understand that cataloging conserving digital media was something that took money ?
Back in the 80 's ?
The 70s ? It takes a great deal of effort to turn a book into a palimpsest .
So reasoning from what people knew about information storage , the attitude would be that it 'd take some effort to lose this data .
But overwriting a mag tape is as easy as writing it in the first place.This is just the sort of thing that in the late 60s might have overlooked .
And then , and then , one of the most powerful of human cognitive bugs does the rest .
It is the dog that does not bark in the night .
Since anybody could see this sort of thing ought to have been preserved , it is but a short leap to the assumption that somebody must have done it .
There are two ways such an oversight can be caught .
The first would be that somebody decides they wanted this information and go looking for it .
The second is somebody thinks to check that what seems plainly obvious to do had in fact been done .
Being something of a fan of the last approach , I can tell you that advocating for it , especially if it costs money , is not something that makes you popular with your boss .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it is "incredible" in the sense of "impossible to believe".
It's all to easy to believe.You see the people of the US (as a whole) lost interest in the whole thing once we'd done the Moon once or twice.
NASA didn't even have the money to buy mag tapes for the satellite data they were collecting, which anybody with half a brain would see is worthwhile once you'd went through the trouble of putting a satellite up there.
Now how many people would understand that cataloging conserving digital media was something that took money?
Back in the 80's?
The 70s?It takes a great deal of effort to turn a book into a palimpsest.
So reasoning from what people knew about information storage, the attitude would be that it'd take some effort to lose this data.
But overwriting a mag tape is as easy as writing it in the first place.This is just the sort of thing that in the late 60s might have overlooked.
And then, and then, one of the most powerful of human cognitive bugs does the rest.
It is the dog that does not bark in the night.
Since anybody could see this sort of thing ought to have been preserved, it is but a short leap to the assumption that somebody must have done it.
There are two ways such an oversight can be caught.
The first would be that somebody decides they wanted this information and go looking for it.
The second is somebody thinks to check that what seems plainly obvious to do had in fact been done.
Being something of a fan of the last approach, I can tell you that advocating for it, especially if it costs money, is not something that makes you popular with your boss.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722251</id>
	<title>It's on a shelf</title>
	<author>Voyager529</author>
	<datestamp>1247736660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Right next to the tape with Nixon's 18.5 minutes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Right next to the tape with Nixon 's 18.5 minutes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right next to the tape with Nixon's 18.5 minutes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722945</id>
	<title>So?</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1247739780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not a big deal- they can just record them again. I'm sure CGI can fix the problem of the astronauts being slightly older this time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not a big deal- they can just record them again .
I 'm sure CGI can fix the problem of the astronauts being slightly older this time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not a big deal- they can just record them again.
I'm sure CGI can fix the problem of the astronauts being slightly older this time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722169</id>
	<title>NASA or the BBC?</title>
	<author>davidwr</author>
	<datestamp>1247736360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The BBC "recycled" tapes in the '70s and '80s, losing many episodes of well-known programs forever *coughdrwhoandmanyothers*.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The BBC " recycled " tapes in the '70s and '80s , losing many episodes of well-known programs forever * coughdrwhoandmanyothers * .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The BBC "recycled" tapes in the '70s and '80s, losing many episodes of well-known programs forever *coughdrwhoandmanyothers*.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723003</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247740020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a feeling they had no value, as there was no mission to the actual moon. Only a mission to Arizona or some such. They can always go reshoot that stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a feeling they had no value , as there was no mission to the actual moon .
Only a mission to Arizona or some such .
They can always go reshoot that stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a feeling they had no value, as there was no mission to the actual moon.
Only a mission to Arizona or some such.
They can always go reshoot that stuff.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28727359</id>
	<title>Re:Fifth-rate consolation prize</title>
	<author>Rich0</author>
	<datestamp>1247828280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like work to me.</p><p>When the project is the pet-project of the CIO it will have an 8-figure annual budget.  Money will be availble for even the most trivial task and every need is taken care of.</p><p>Then the project is a "success" (maybe it really is, maybe in name only), and everybody is happy with it.  Of course, tons of money is available for the launch and transition and training, and everybody marvels at how nicely things go.</p><p>Fast forward two years - the system is supported by three guys in 20\% of their time, and they're in the process of doing knowledge transfer offshore.  Problems that crop up in the system simply aren't taken care of.  The CIO is on to newer and better things, and all the big names associated with the project have all gotten their promotions.  Any effort spent fixing the system just raises the question "why did all those guys get promoted if the system has all these underlying problems?"  Therefore, nobody is eager to open that can of worms and the system just continues to stagnate.</p><p>I'm amazed at work at how many systems are rolled out at a cost of millions or tens of millions of dollars, and then the beancounters start virtualizing it on oversubscribed hardware and tuning down the CPU allocation until the end users are dealing with painful performance problems.  We'll sink millions on a project and then throw a spanner in the works to save a few thousand dollars per year at most.</p><p>And, that kind of mentality is what causes somebody to recycle the tape used for the original moon landing.  The ultimate documentation of the product of maybe 10\% of the entire national economy for a period of 7 years is lost so that a $50 tape doesn't have to be purchased on a strained departmental budget.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like work to me.When the project is the pet-project of the CIO it will have an 8-figure annual budget .
Money will be availble for even the most trivial task and every need is taken care of.Then the project is a " success " ( maybe it really is , maybe in name only ) , and everybody is happy with it .
Of course , tons of money is available for the launch and transition and training , and everybody marvels at how nicely things go.Fast forward two years - the system is supported by three guys in 20 \ % of their time , and they 're in the process of doing knowledge transfer offshore .
Problems that crop up in the system simply are n't taken care of .
The CIO is on to newer and better things , and all the big names associated with the project have all gotten their promotions .
Any effort spent fixing the system just raises the question " why did all those guys get promoted if the system has all these underlying problems ?
" Therefore , nobody is eager to open that can of worms and the system just continues to stagnate.I 'm amazed at work at how many systems are rolled out at a cost of millions or tens of millions of dollars , and then the beancounters start virtualizing it on oversubscribed hardware and tuning down the CPU allocation until the end users are dealing with painful performance problems .
We 'll sink millions on a project and then throw a spanner in the works to save a few thousand dollars per year at most.And , that kind of mentality is what causes somebody to recycle the tape used for the original moon landing .
The ultimate documentation of the product of maybe 10 \ % of the entire national economy for a period of 7 years is lost so that a $ 50 tape does n't have to be purchased on a strained departmental budget .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like work to me.When the project is the pet-project of the CIO it will have an 8-figure annual budget.
Money will be availble for even the most trivial task and every need is taken care of.Then the project is a "success" (maybe it really is, maybe in name only), and everybody is happy with it.
Of course, tons of money is available for the launch and transition and training, and everybody marvels at how nicely things go.Fast forward two years - the system is supported by three guys in 20\% of their time, and they're in the process of doing knowledge transfer offshore.
Problems that crop up in the system simply aren't taken care of.
The CIO is on to newer and better things, and all the big names associated with the project have all gotten their promotions.
Any effort spent fixing the system just raises the question "why did all those guys get promoted if the system has all these underlying problems?
"  Therefore, nobody is eager to open that can of worms and the system just continues to stagnate.I'm amazed at work at how many systems are rolled out at a cost of millions or tens of millions of dollars, and then the beancounters start virtualizing it on oversubscribed hardware and tuning down the CPU allocation until the end users are dealing with painful performance problems.
We'll sink millions on a project and then throw a spanner in the works to save a few thousand dollars per year at most.And, that kind of mentality is what causes somebody to recycle the tape used for the original moon landing.
The ultimate documentation of the product of maybe 10\% of the entire national economy for a period of 7 years is lost so that a $50 tape doesn't have to be purchased on a strained departmental budget.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723071</id>
	<title>Re:AND NOW A JOKE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247740260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kick Sonia Sotomayor in the jaw!
<br> <br>
Too soon?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kick Sonia Sotomayor in the jaw !
Too soon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kick Sonia Sotomayor in the jaw!
Too soon?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28734349</id>
	<title>One question</title>
	<author>slapout</author>
	<datestamp>1247822100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"original footage search committee"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" original footage search committee " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"original footage search committee"?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722321</id>
	<title>Lost? Sure...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247736900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They just threw out the bits where you could see the boom mic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They just threw out the bits where you could see the boom mic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They just threw out the bits where you could see the boom mic.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723689</id>
	<title>Re:What the motherfuck!</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1247743080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>LoL. The Telescopes we've built don't have the resolution to see the rovers and/or the flag.</p><p>We can show you pics of what we believe to be the lunar landing module, only because its a longer shadow then most of the craters you would expect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>LoL .
The Telescopes we 've built do n't have the resolution to see the rovers and/or the flag.We can show you pics of what we believe to be the lunar landing module , only because its a longer shadow then most of the craters you would expect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LoL.
The Telescopes we've built don't have the resolution to see the rovers and/or the flag.We can show you pics of what we believe to be the lunar landing module, only because its a longer shadow then most of the craters you would expect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28725719</id>
	<title>Re:Computing power</title>
	<author>mi</author>
	<datestamp>1247760540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It is truly amazing what you can "find" when you have unlimited access to huge amounts of supercomputing power.</p></div></blockquote><p>And yet, they can't find the President's real, actual, <a href="http://www.wnd.com/obama\_petition" title="wnd.com" rel="nofollow">Birth Certificate</a> [wnd.com]...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is truly amazing what you can " find " when you have unlimited access to huge amounts of supercomputing power.And yet , they ca n't find the President 's real , actual , Birth Certificate [ wnd.com ] .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is truly amazing what you can "find" when you have unlimited access to huge amounts of supercomputing power.And yet, they can't find the President's real, actual, Birth Certificate [wnd.com]...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723445</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>tylersoze</author>
	<datestamp>1247742000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Heck, most people didn't even have colored TVs at that time</p></div><p>The modern politically correct term is "African American" TVs I believe.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heck , most people did n't even have colored TVs at that timeThe modern politically correct term is " African American " TVs I believe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heck, most people didn't even have colored TVs at that timeThe modern politically correct term is "African American" TVs I believe.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722283</id>
	<title>Pink Floyd</title>
	<author>escay</author>
	<datestamp>1247736780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>wasn't some of the lost footage recovered from tapes that Pink Floyd had? I remember a news article (last year?) about some tapes Pink Floyd got from NASA to use in some music videos, which they fished out for NASA from their archives when they heard the originals were lost.</htmltext>
<tokenext>was n't some of the lost footage recovered from tapes that Pink Floyd had ?
I remember a news article ( last year ?
) about some tapes Pink Floyd got from NASA to use in some music videos , which they fished out for NASA from their archives when they heard the originals were lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wasn't some of the lost footage recovered from tapes that Pink Floyd had?
I remember a news article (last year?
) about some tapes Pink Floyd got from NASA to use in some music videos, which they fished out for NASA from their archives when they heard the originals were lost.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723899</id>
	<title>Re:Why is Vanilla Ice on the Apollo Tapes?</title>
	<author>Zaiff Urgulbunger</author>
	<datestamp>1247744100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So.... you're saying that maybe, just maybe, Elvis *IS* on the moon [tapes]?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>So.... you 're saying that maybe , just maybe , Elvis * IS * on the moon [ tapes ] ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So.... you're saying that maybe, just maybe, Elvis *IS* on the moon [tapes]?
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28733881</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>RenderSeven</author>
	<datestamp>1247863260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> NASA wouldn't think</p> </div><p>The thing is 'NASA' didnt do it... 'Some Guy' did it. Someone pissed off at the budget cuts making his job difficult after not getting a raise. I can pretty easily imagine some mid-level engineer saying "screw the bean counters and the public that hates us now, maybe recycling THESE will wake someone up". The same kind of thing happens every day all around us.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>NASA would n't think The thing is 'NASA ' didnt do it... 'Some Guy ' did it .
Someone pissed off at the budget cuts making his job difficult after not getting a raise .
I can pretty easily imagine some mid-level engineer saying " screw the bean counters and the public that hates us now , maybe recycling THESE will wake someone up " .
The same kind of thing happens every day all around us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> NASA wouldn't think The thing is 'NASA' didnt do it... 'Some Guy' did it.
Someone pissed off at the budget cuts making his job difficult after not getting a raise.
I can pretty easily imagine some mid-level engineer saying "screw the bean counters and the public that hates us now, maybe recycling THESE will wake someone up".
The same kind of thing happens every day all around us.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722527</id>
	<title>I love the remaster!</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1247737680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the Neil Armstrong ADR is especially good, given the problems with the first version.</p><p>"Hey folks, Neal 'Moonman' Armstrong here -- I can say Moonman now, can't I! -- reporting live, that's LIVE LIVE LIVE from the surface of the mooooooooon, that's right, the one, the only, the biggest satellite in orbit around the Earth you all know and love, and lemme tell ya, folks, the Earth is looking pretty damn good from here, it's a real crackerjack experience, even in this helluva suit, to be up here, and waving down there at all you fine listeners. Station break and ID comin' up, but I'll be right back atcha with more moon-media-madness, so stay tuned!"</p><p>I'm pretty sure that's William H. Macy, though the alternative sound tracks and director's cut are good, too. Gary Sinese doing his "perpetual typecast criminal conspirator on the moon" is pretty good, too, and I will admit the Reese Witherspoon version makes those space suits suddenly look pretty sexy. The Nick Cage one is cool, too, sort of a National Treasure reprise.</p><p>timothy</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the Neil Armstrong ADR is especially good , given the problems with the first version .
" Hey folks , Neal 'Moonman ' Armstrong here -- I can say Moonman now , ca n't I !
-- reporting live , that 's LIVE LIVE LIVE from the surface of the mooooooooon , that 's right , the one , the only , the biggest satellite in orbit around the Earth you all know and love , and lem me tell ya , folks , the Earth is looking pretty damn good from here , it 's a real crackerjack experience , even in this helluva suit , to be up here , and waving down there at all you fine listeners .
Station break and ID comin ' up , but I 'll be right back atcha with more moon-media-madness , so stay tuned !
" I 'm pretty sure that 's William H. Macy , though the alternative sound tracks and director 's cut are good , too .
Gary Sinese doing his " perpetual typecast criminal conspirator on the moon " is pretty good , too , and I will admit the Reese Witherspoon version makes those space suits suddenly look pretty sexy .
The Nick Cage one is cool , too , sort of a National Treasure reprise.timothy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the Neil Armstrong ADR is especially good, given the problems with the first version.
"Hey folks, Neal 'Moonman' Armstrong here -- I can say Moonman now, can't I!
-- reporting live, that's LIVE LIVE LIVE from the surface of the mooooooooon, that's right, the one, the only, the biggest satellite in orbit around the Earth you all know and love, and lemme tell ya, folks, the Earth is looking pretty damn good from here, it's a real crackerjack experience, even in this helluva suit, to be up here, and waving down there at all you fine listeners.
Station break and ID comin' up, but I'll be right back atcha with more moon-media-madness, so stay tuned!
"I'm pretty sure that's William H. Macy, though the alternative sound tracks and director's cut are good, too.
Gary Sinese doing his "perpetual typecast criminal conspirator on the moon" is pretty good, too, and I will admit the Reese Witherspoon version makes those space suits suddenly look pretty sexy.
The Nick Cage one is cool, too, sort of a National Treasure reprise.timothy</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722667</id>
	<title>Re:An interesting PR problem</title>
	<author>BobNET</author>
	<datestamp>1247738340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure you do: just go back to recordings made before these were remastered. (Same thing we do with Star Wars, I guess.)</p><p>Although I suppose the conspiracy nuts could always claim that earlier recordings were modified after-the-fact by NASA using the same sort of ray that is neutralized by tinfoil hats...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure you do : just go back to recordings made before these were remastered .
( Same thing we do with Star Wars , I guess .
) Although I suppose the conspiracy nuts could always claim that earlier recordings were modified after-the-fact by NASA using the same sort of ray that is neutralized by tinfoil hats.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure you do: just go back to recordings made before these were remastered.
(Same thing we do with Star Wars, I guess.
)Although I suppose the conspiracy nuts could always claim that earlier recordings were modified after-the-fact by NASA using the same sort of ray that is neutralized by tinfoil hats...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28731573</id>
	<title>Re:I thought they were found...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247852940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought Australia had a good portion of them as copies from when the served as the "night"-time communications depot... Did  miss a major followup?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought Australia had a good portion of them as copies from when the served as the " night " -time communications depot... Did miss a major followup ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought Australia had a good portion of them as copies from when the served as the "night"-time communications depot... Did  miss a major followup?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723317</id>
	<title>colored TVs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247741400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>THAT'S RACIST.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>THAT 'S RACIST .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>THAT'S RACIST.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722515</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722759</id>
	<title>mo3 Down</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247738940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">800 w/512 Megs of trouble. It very sick and its opErating systems, W00T theorists - OS. Now BSDI is I have a life to result of a quarrel and 7he Bazaar and suggesting how it was supposed The NetBSD project, volatile world of direct orders, or or mislead the We'll be able to show that *BSD has As it is licensed [amazingkreskin.com] [gay-sex-access.com]?</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>800 w/512 Megs of trouble .
It very sick and its opErating systems , W00T theorists - OS .
Now BSDI is I have a life to result of a quarrel and 7he Bazaar and suggesting how it was supposed The NetBSD project , volatile world of direct orders , or or mislead the We 'll be able to show that * BSD has As it is licensed [ amazingkreskin.com ] [ gay-sex-access.com ] ?
[ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>800 w/512 Megs of trouble.
It very sick and its opErating systems, W00T theorists - OS.
Now BSDI is I have a life to result of a quarrel and 7he Bazaar and suggesting how it was supposed The NetBSD project, volatile world of direct orders, or or mislead the We'll be able to show that *BSD has As it is licensed [amazingkreskin.com] [gay-sex-access.com]?
[goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722155</id>
	<title>Nasa site?</title>
	<author>toxygen01</author>
	<datestamp>1247736360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reminds me of <a href="http://wechoosethemoon.org/" title="wechoosethemoon.org" rel="nofollow">http://wechoosethemoon.org/</a> [wechoosethemoon.org] which was quite busy today.
wayback machine to realtime proceeding of apollo 11 mission</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of http : //wechoosethemoon.org/ [ wechoosethemoon.org ] which was quite busy today .
wayback machine to realtime proceeding of apollo 11 mission</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of http://wechoosethemoon.org/ [wechoosethemoon.org] which was quite busy today.
wayback machine to realtime proceeding of apollo 11 mission</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28727323</id>
	<title>History repeats itself</title>
	<author>BigBadBus</author>
	<datestamp>1247827800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looks like NASA did <a href="http://www.paullee.com/drwho" title="paullee.com">what the BBC perfected decades ago</a> [paullee.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like NASA did what the BBC perfected decades ago [ paullee.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like NASA did what the BBC perfected decades ago [paullee.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28731119</id>
	<title>And I want to see gnat's testicles...</title>
	<author>Petersko</author>
	<datestamp>1247850840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"I want to see recent telescope pictures of the moon showing the rovers and the flag."</i> <br> <br>

And I want to see gnat's testicles at 200 yards using only official <a href="https://www.cia.gov/about-cia/cia-museum/spy-fi-archives/item23.html" title="cia.gov">"Austin Powers" glasses</a> [cia.gov].<br> <br>

Both of us are likely to be disappointed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I want to see recent telescope pictures of the moon showing the rovers and the flag .
" And I want to see gnat 's testicles at 200 yards using only official " Austin Powers " glasses [ cia.gov ] .
Both of us are likely to be disappointed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I want to see recent telescope pictures of the moon showing the rovers and the flag.
"  

And I want to see gnat's testicles at 200 yards using only official "Austin Powers" glasses [cia.gov].
Both of us are likely to be disappointed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722671</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28725985</id>
	<title>Oblig. cheap joke</title>
	<author>Torodung</author>
	<datestamp>1247763420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Consider who was President at the time of the Apollo 11 landing, and then realize that it's unsurprising that there is a 2-hour gap in the tapes.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;^)</p><p>--<br>Toro</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Consider who was President at the time of the Apollo 11 landing , and then realize that it 's unsurprising that there is a 2-hour gap in the tapes .
; ^ ) --Toro</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consider who was President at the time of the Apollo 11 landing, and then realize that it's unsurprising that there is a 2-hour gap in the tapes.
;^)--Toro</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722549</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>basementman</author>
	<datestamp>1247737800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They just assumed someone would DVR it and upload it to be torrented by the masses. As government produced material I assume it would be in the public domain as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They just assumed someone would DVR it and upload it to be torrented by the masses .
As government produced material I assume it would be in the public domain as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They just assumed someone would DVR it and upload it to be torrented by the masses.
As government produced material I assume it would be in the public domain as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722823</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247739240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hayden was OK but NASA crossed the line when Buzz Aldrin was replaced by Katee Sackhoff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hayden was OK but NASA crossed the line when Buzz Aldrin was replaced by Katee Sackhoff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hayden was OK but NASA crossed the line when Buzz Aldrin was replaced by Katee Sackhoff.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28725485</id>
	<title>Some of those taps got 'porn' taped over them...</title>
	<author>neptunusmaris</author>
	<datestamp>1247756460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You know it guys, it happens all the time...</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know it guys , it happens all the time.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know it guys, it happens all the time...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722515</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247737620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While it does seem incredible today, those were very, very different times.</p><p>People were far more concerned and enamored with "seeing" an event than how they might see it again. Heck, most people didn't even have colored TVs at that time, and because so much was live broadcast, if you wanted to see something like the moon landing, you planned for it.</p><p>Gone are the days of just savoring the moment and keeping the memory alive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While it does seem incredible today , those were very , very different times.People were far more concerned and enamored with " seeing " an event than how they might see it again .
Heck , most people did n't even have colored TVs at that time , and because so much was live broadcast , if you wanted to see something like the moon landing , you planned for it.Gone are the days of just savoring the moment and keeping the memory alive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While it does seem incredible today, those were very, very different times.People were far more concerned and enamored with "seeing" an event than how they might see it again.
Heck, most people didn't even have colored TVs at that time, and because so much was live broadcast, if you wanted to see something like the moon landing, you planned for it.Gone are the days of just savoring the moment and keeping the memory alive.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723009</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247740020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At the time they probably thought we would be colonizing Mars by now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At the time they probably thought we would be colonizing Mars by now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the time they probably thought we would be colonizing Mars by now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722803</id>
	<title>DUH</title>
	<author>theuhstuf</author>
	<datestamp>1247739180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is just more proof that NASA is only about money and couldn't care less about anything else.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just more proof that NASA is only about money and could n't care less about anything else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is just more proof that NASA is only about money and couldn't care less about anything else.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723193</id>
	<title>NASA needs Dead Tapers... :P</title>
	<author>I\_Can't\_Fly</author>
	<datestamp>1247740800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So a generation of acid heads, and stoners can record and preserve thousands of Grateful Dead concerts all why moderately crazed on mind altering drugs, while NASA spent hundreds of millions on the Apollo Program only to record over them due to a "tape shortage" ?

What doesn't add up here?  Maybe Nasa should put dead heads in charge of space exploration. At least that way things will be preserved correctly. Until that happens count me in as one of the fools that think the only way the real tapes were destroyed was if they were destroyed on purpose.
<p>
NASA -2

</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So a generation of acid heads , and stoners can record and preserve thousands of Grateful Dead concerts all why moderately crazed on mind altering drugs , while NASA spent hundreds of millions on the Apollo Program only to record over them due to a " tape shortage " ?
What does n't add up here ?
Maybe Nasa should put dead heads in charge of space exploration .
At least that way things will be preserved correctly .
Until that happens count me in as one of the fools that think the only way the real tapes were destroyed was if they were destroyed on purpose .
NASA -2</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So a generation of acid heads, and stoners can record and preserve thousands of Grateful Dead concerts all why moderately crazed on mind altering drugs, while NASA spent hundreds of millions on the Apollo Program only to record over them due to a "tape shortage" ?
What doesn't add up here?
Maybe Nasa should put dead heads in charge of space exploration.
At least that way things will be preserved correctly.
Until that happens count me in as one of the fools that think the only way the real tapes were destroyed was if they were destroyed on purpose.
NASA -2

</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722893</id>
	<title>Re:I thought they were found...</title>
	<author>ocularDeathRay</author>
	<datestamp>1247739540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>btw I just noticed that link is to THIS page not the other story you wanted <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/07/13/2342220/NASA-Has-the-Lost-Tapes" title="slashdot.org">http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/07/13/2342220/NASA-Has-the-Lost-Tapes</a> [slashdot.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>btw I just noticed that link is to THIS page not the other story you wanted http : //science.slashdot.org/story/09/07/13/2342220/NASA-Has-the-Lost-Tapes [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>btw I just noticed that link is to THIS page not the other story you wanted http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/07/13/2342220/NASA-Has-the-Lost-Tapes [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722441</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723525</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>ozbird</author>
	<datestamp>1247742360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given Hollywood's lack of original material of late, it wouldn't surprise me if they do a remake of the Apollo 11 landing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given Hollywood 's lack of original material of late , it would n't surprise me if they do a remake of the Apollo 11 landing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given Hollywood's lack of original material of late, it wouldn't surprise me if they do a remake of the Apollo 11 landing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723483</id>
	<title>Re:An interesting PR problem</title>
	<author>pbhj</author>
	<datestamp>1247742240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Having a Hollywood studio "restore" the footage is going to provide wonderful ammunition for the conspiracy nuts, as they now get to claim that even if the tapes were real, you have no way of knowing if the restored information is genuine or inserted.</p></div><p>The iPhone Armstrong uses to communicate with Collins (pictured drinking new Pepsi, wearing a Snorg-tee whilst playing on his DS), that's inserted<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Having a Hollywood studio " restore " the footage is going to provide wonderful ammunition for the conspiracy nuts , as they now get to claim that even if the tapes were real , you have no way of knowing if the restored information is genuine or inserted.The iPhone Armstrong uses to communicate with Collins ( pictured drinking new Pepsi , wearing a Snorg-tee whilst playing on his DS ) , that 's inserted .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having a Hollywood studio "restore" the footage is going to provide wonderful ammunition for the conspiracy nuts, as they now get to claim that even if the tapes were real, you have no way of knowing if the restored information is genuine or inserted.The iPhone Armstrong uses to communicate with Collins (pictured drinking new Pepsi, wearing a Snorg-tee whilst playing on his DS), that's inserted ...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722133</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28727353</id>
	<title>Copyright and broadcast rights</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247828160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because only select entities were allowed to keep the copies or display them, the works they considered "so valueable" that they and their siblings being pirated cost the world quadrillions each year, were destroyed because they couldn't be arsed letting go of it.</p><p>THIS is why copyright of 5-10 years IS ENOUGH.</p><p>After 10 years there would still have been people who had copies they'd taken. The originals could be opened up and left for someone else to keep or transfer, rather than be destroyed because storage costs whether you're making money from the work or not.</p><p>After 95 years or life+75 DVDs will be unreadable. VHS would be rusted. People will have cleared their homes out several times.</p><p>10 years.</p><p>Tops.</p><p>If you haven't made your money by then, you suck.</p><p>As for the five years trying to get a publisher, use an NDA. They NEVER expire, so are better than copyrights. They also have higher penalty costs than copyright has against a corporation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because only select entities were allowed to keep the copies or display them , the works they considered " so valueable " that they and their siblings being pirated cost the world quadrillions each year , were destroyed because they could n't be arsed letting go of it.THIS is why copyright of 5-10 years IS ENOUGH.After 10 years there would still have been people who had copies they 'd taken .
The originals could be opened up and left for someone else to keep or transfer , rather than be destroyed because storage costs whether you 're making money from the work or not.After 95 years or life + 75 DVDs will be unreadable .
VHS would be rusted .
People will have cleared their homes out several times.10 years.Tops.If you have n't made your money by then , you suck.As for the five years trying to get a publisher , use an NDA .
They NEVER expire , so are better than copyrights .
They also have higher penalty costs than copyright has against a corporation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because only select entities were allowed to keep the copies or display them, the works they considered "so valueable" that they and their siblings being pirated cost the world quadrillions each year, were destroyed because they couldn't be arsed letting go of it.THIS is why copyright of 5-10 years IS ENOUGH.After 10 years there would still have been people who had copies they'd taken.
The originals could be opened up and left for someone else to keep or transfer, rather than be destroyed because storage costs whether you're making money from the work or not.After 95 years or life+75 DVDs will be unreadable.
VHS would be rusted.
People will have cleared their homes out several times.10 years.Tops.If you haven't made your money by then, you suck.As for the five years trying to get a publisher, use an NDA.
They NEVER expire, so are better than copyrights.
They also have higher penalty costs than copyright has against a corporation.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28730121</id>
	<title>Possible explanation as to why this happened</title>
	<author>Zontar\_Thing\_From\_Ve</author>
	<datestamp>1247846820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some years ago I read an article on baseball stadiums, which is actually relevant in terms of possibly explaining why NASA would view the tapes of the original moon landing as expendable.  Essentially the article said that in the USA in the 1960s everybody was obsessed with tearing down the old to make room for the new.  This started in the 1950s but really got going in the 1960s.  One example of it was that many American cities (Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Houston, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Atlanta and probably others) built giant "multi-purpose" stadiums to house both baseball and football teams.  Old baseball only stadiums were often torn down (Forbes Field) or moved (Crosby Field - mostly moved to Kentucky) to make way for what were eventually called "cookie cutter" stadiums that all looked identical and were meant to house everything from baseball and football to concerts and motocross rallies.  These stadiums ended up being "jack of all trades, master of none" offering bad viewing for all sports.  But that was how things apparently were in the 60s.  Throw out the old to make room for the new.  So when you have an entire society that seems to be dedicated to the belief that you can only make progress by destroying the past and building on top of it, yes, I can certainly believe that NASA in such a climate considered the films to be worthless and not worth keeping.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some years ago I read an article on baseball stadiums , which is actually relevant in terms of possibly explaining why NASA would view the tapes of the original moon landing as expendable .
Essentially the article said that in the USA in the 1960s everybody was obsessed with tearing down the old to make room for the new .
This started in the 1950s but really got going in the 1960s .
One example of it was that many American cities ( Cincinnati , Pittsburgh , Houston , Philadelphia , St. Louis , Atlanta and probably others ) built giant " multi-purpose " stadiums to house both baseball and football teams .
Old baseball only stadiums were often torn down ( Forbes Field ) or moved ( Crosby Field - mostly moved to Kentucky ) to make way for what were eventually called " cookie cutter " stadiums that all looked identical and were meant to house everything from baseball and football to concerts and motocross rallies .
These stadiums ended up being " jack of all trades , master of none " offering bad viewing for all sports .
But that was how things apparently were in the 60s .
Throw out the old to make room for the new .
So when you have an entire society that seems to be dedicated to the belief that you can only make progress by destroying the past and building on top of it , yes , I can certainly believe that NASA in such a climate considered the films to be worthless and not worth keeping .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some years ago I read an article on baseball stadiums, which is actually relevant in terms of possibly explaining why NASA would view the tapes of the original moon landing as expendable.
Essentially the article said that in the USA in the 1960s everybody was obsessed with tearing down the old to make room for the new.
This started in the 1950s but really got going in the 1960s.
One example of it was that many American cities (Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Houston, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Atlanta and probably others) built giant "multi-purpose" stadiums to house both baseball and football teams.
Old baseball only stadiums were often torn down (Forbes Field) or moved (Crosby Field - mostly moved to Kentucky) to make way for what were eventually called "cookie cutter" stadiums that all looked identical and were meant to house everything from baseball and football to concerts and motocross rallies.
These stadiums ended up being "jack of all trades, master of none" offering bad viewing for all sports.
But that was how things apparently were in the 60s.
Throw out the old to make room for the new.
So when you have an entire society that seems to be dedicated to the belief that you can only make progress by destroying the past and building on top of it, yes, I can certainly believe that NASA in such a climate considered the films to be worthless and not worth keeping.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722475</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>sjfoland</author>
	<datestamp>1247737500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would have liked the restored versions so much better if they hadn't replaced Neil Armstrong with Hayden Christiansen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have liked the restored versions so much better if they had n't replaced Neil Armstrong with Hayden Christiansen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have liked the restored versions so much better if they hadn't replaced Neil Armstrong with Hayden Christiansen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722275</id>
	<title>Re:An interesting PR problem</title>
	<author>leetrout</author>
	<datestamp>1247736720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The AP reporter covering this also made that statement.  The rep from Lowry Digital emphasized that they are merely a restoration house.  Of course anyone who works with post production knows that all that software is like photoshop for video and they could do effects with it.  But they assured us that they are working closely with NASA to 'not fix too much'.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The AP reporter covering this also made that statement .
The rep from Lowry Digital emphasized that they are merely a restoration house .
Of course anyone who works with post production knows that all that software is like photoshop for video and they could do effects with it .
But they assured us that they are working closely with NASA to 'not fix too much' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The AP reporter covering this also made that statement.
The rep from Lowry Digital emphasized that they are merely a restoration house.
Of course anyone who works with post production knows that all that software is like photoshop for video and they could do effects with it.
But they assured us that they are working closely with NASA to 'not fix too much'.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722133</id>
	<title>An interesting PR problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247736240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having a Hollywood studio "restore" the footage is going to provide wonderful ammunition for the conspiracy nuts, as they now get to claim that even if the tapes were real, you have no way of knowing if the restored information is genuine or inserted.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having a Hollywood studio " restore " the footage is going to provide wonderful ammunition for the conspiracy nuts , as they now get to claim that even if the tapes were real , you have no way of knowing if the restored information is genuine or inserted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having a Hollywood studio "restore" the footage is going to provide wonderful ammunition for the conspiracy nuts, as they now get to claim that even if the tapes were real, you have no way of knowing if the restored information is genuine or inserted.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28725881</id>
	<title>Re:I thought they were found...</title>
	<author>jra</author>
	<datestamp>1247762340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah...</p><p>and that story's my fault.  I bought what the UK tabloid was smoking, and didn't fact check it first.</p><p>How I *could* have fact-checked it, will remain undiscussed...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah...and that story 's my fault .
I bought what the UK tabloid was smoking , and did n't fact check it first.How I * could * have fact-checked it , will remain undiscussed.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah...and that story's my fault.
I bought what the UK tabloid was smoking, and didn't fact check it first.How I *could* have fact-checked it, will remain undiscussed...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28723609</id>
	<title>Fifth-rate consolation prize</title>
	<author>Dogtanian</author>
	<datestamp>1247742660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The BBC "recycled" tapes in the '70s and '80s, losing many episodes of well-known programs forever *coughdrwhoandmanyothers*.</p></div><p>Much as the BBC should be smacked about with a blunt instrument for wiping, they at least have the defence that these were low-budget productions that were seen as ephemeral in nature at the time and of no obvious use. (Legal agreements meant that they couldn't be retransmitted, and there wasn't a home video market as such).<br> <br>
NASA spent billions (in *60s money*) getting the first human being to walk on the moon- which would have been an obviously massive historical event even before it happened- yet thanks to some beancounting jobsworths and bureaucrats, rather than being treated as a valuable historical document and archived as they should have been, the high-quality originals have been lost.<br> <br>
This both defies belief and is all too believable; but that doesn't make it any less of a disgrace.<br> <br>
After initial jubilation, I was right <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1284945&amp;cid=28506157" title="slashdot.org"> to be sceptical about that the Sunday Express's accuracy</a> [slashdot.org] (they were the ones who broke the- incorrect- story that the original tapes had been found).<br> <br>
Anyway, getting this digitally tarted-up version of the existing footage instead is a $50 consolation prize after being incorrectly told that you'd won a million on the lottery. Even if the image quality is good, the reprocessed footage still likely won't look as good as the original slow scan would have, and it certainly won't have the same veracity.<br> <br>
And that's the most important thing. <b>They lost the damn originals</b>, and regardless of how good the remasters *look*, they're not the damn originals.<br> <br>
You'll excuse me if I don't feel like breaking out the party poppers at NASA's DVD-age PR fluff hyping the remastering of their crappy fourth-generation footage as a minor success instead of the non-reversal of a massive loss of historical material.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The BBC " recycled " tapes in the '70s and '80s , losing many episodes of well-known programs forever * coughdrwhoandmanyothers * .Much as the BBC should be smacked about with a blunt instrument for wiping , they at least have the defence that these were low-budget productions that were seen as ephemeral in nature at the time and of no obvious use .
( Legal agreements meant that they could n't be retransmitted , and there was n't a home video market as such ) .
NASA spent billions ( in * 60s money * ) getting the first human being to walk on the moon- which would have been an obviously massive historical event even before it happened- yet thanks to some beancounting jobsworths and bureaucrats , rather than being treated as a valuable historical document and archived as they should have been , the high-quality originals have been lost .
This both defies belief and is all too believable ; but that does n't make it any less of a disgrace .
After initial jubilation , I was right to be sceptical about that the Sunday Express 's accuracy [ slashdot.org ] ( they were the ones who broke the- incorrect- story that the original tapes had been found ) .
Anyway , getting this digitally tarted-up version of the existing footage instead is a $ 50 consolation prize after being incorrectly told that you 'd won a million on the lottery .
Even if the image quality is good , the reprocessed footage still likely wo n't look as good as the original slow scan would have , and it certainly wo n't have the same veracity .
And that 's the most important thing .
They lost the damn originals , and regardless of how good the remasters * look * , they 're not the damn originals .
You 'll excuse me if I do n't feel like breaking out the party poppers at NASA 's DVD-age PR fluff hyping the remastering of their crappy fourth-generation footage as a minor success instead of the non-reversal of a massive loss of historical material .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The BBC "recycled" tapes in the '70s and '80s, losing many episodes of well-known programs forever *coughdrwhoandmanyothers*.Much as the BBC should be smacked about with a blunt instrument for wiping, they at least have the defence that these were low-budget productions that were seen as ephemeral in nature at the time and of no obvious use.
(Legal agreements meant that they couldn't be retransmitted, and there wasn't a home video market as such).
NASA spent billions (in *60s money*) getting the first human being to walk on the moon- which would have been an obviously massive historical event even before it happened- yet thanks to some beancounting jobsworths and bureaucrats, rather than being treated as a valuable historical document and archived as they should have been, the high-quality originals have been lost.
This both defies belief and is all too believable; but that doesn't make it any less of a disgrace.
After initial jubilation, I was right  to be sceptical about that the Sunday Express's accuracy [slashdot.org] (they were the ones who broke the- incorrect- story that the original tapes had been found).
Anyway, getting this digitally tarted-up version of the existing footage instead is a $50 consolation prize after being incorrectly told that you'd won a million on the lottery.
Even if the image quality is good, the reprocessed footage still likely won't look as good as the original slow scan would have, and it certainly won't have the same veracity.
And that's the most important thing.
They lost the damn originals, and regardless of how good the remasters *look*, they're not the damn originals.
You'll excuse me if I don't feel like breaking out the party poppers at NASA's DVD-age PR fluff hyping the remastering of their crappy fourth-generation footage as a minor success instead of the non-reversal of a massive loss of historical material.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28729905</id>
	<title>Only the original Apollo 11 tapes are lost!</title>
	<author>Markvs</author>
	<datestamp>1247845860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>NASA still has the originals for Apollo 12, 14, 15, 16, &amp; 17. (13 of course didn't get to land on the moon). They're at the Johnson Space Center's Informational Resources Directorate's video vault in Houston. <a href="http://www.physorg.com/news74962441.html/" title="physorg.com">http://www.physorg.com/news74962441.html/</a> [physorg.com]
<br>
<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...I don't see any conspiracy theorists tryng to discredit the other five landings.</htmltext>
<tokenext>NASA still has the originals for Apollo 12 , 14 , 15 , 16 , &amp; 17 .
( 13 of course did n't get to land on the moon ) .
They 're at the Johnson Space Center 's Informational Resources Directorate 's video vault in Houston .
http : //www.physorg.com/news74962441.html/ [ physorg.com ] ...I do n't see any conspiracy theorists tryng to discredit the other five landings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NASA still has the originals for Apollo 12, 14, 15, 16, &amp; 17.
(13 of course didn't get to land on the moon).
They're at the Johnson Space Center's Informational Resources Directorate's video vault in Houston.
http://www.physorg.com/news74962441.html/ [physorg.com]

 ...I don't see any conspiracy theorists tryng to discredit the other five landings.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28725825</id>
	<title>BULLSHIT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247761500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The tapes are "lost" to us, but not to some rich fucker.  Like some famous painting that gets "lost."<br>Someone just needs that "first class" feeling while the rest of us are in coach, because happiness is fucking elusive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The tapes are " lost " to us , but not to some rich fucker .
Like some famous painting that gets " lost .
" Someone just needs that " first class " feeling while the rest of us are in coach , because happiness is fucking elusive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The tapes are "lost" to us, but not to some rich fucker.
Like some famous painting that gets "lost.
"Someone just needs that "first class" feeling while the rest of us are in coach, because happiness is fucking elusive.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722245</id>
	<title>Incredible</title>
	<author>BigJClark</author>
	<datestamp>1247736600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>
Its incredible to me that NASA wouldn't think far enough ahead to save these tapes for posterity's sake.
<br> <br>
Incredible.  One of the defining moments in our history, and they didn't think to hold onto it?  The whole goal was to only shoot for live feed?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its incredible to me that NASA would n't think far enough ahead to save these tapes for posterity 's sake .
Incredible. One of the defining moments in our history , and they did n't think to hold onto it ?
The whole goal was to only shoot for live feed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Its incredible to me that NASA wouldn't think far enough ahead to save these tapes for posterity's sake.
Incredible.  One of the defining moments in our history, and they didn't think to hold onto it?
The whole goal was to only shoot for live feed?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722513</id>
	<title>Re:An interesting PR problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247737620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>We all know is fake. But at least they can now make it more fun. Or perhaps even include one of MJ moon walks!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>We all know is fake .
But at least they can now make it more fun .
Or perhaps even include one of MJ moon walks !
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We all know is fake.
But at least they can now make it more fun.
Or perhaps even include one of MJ moon walks!
:)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28726091</id>
	<title>Re:Incredible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247765100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Heck, most people didn't even have colored TVs at that time</p></div><p>Ahem.  African-American TVs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heck , most people did n't even have colored TVs at that timeAhem .
African-American TVs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heck, most people didn't even have colored TVs at that timeAhem.
African-American TVs.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722385</id>
	<title>Re:It's on a shelf</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247737080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We salute you! To victory. Zig Heil!<br>Young gay Jewish Nazis for Christ minority Slashdot splinter group</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We salute you !
To victory .
Zig Heil ! Young gay Jewish Nazis for Christ minority Slashdot splinter group</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We salute you!
To victory.
Zig Heil!Young gay Jewish Nazis for Christ minority Slashdot splinter group</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722129</id>
	<title>Computing power</title>
	<author>Capt.DrumkenBum</author>
	<datestamp>1247736240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is truly amazing what you can "find" when you have unlimited access to huge amounts of supercomputing power.<br> <br>
The render times are probably really impressive too.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is truly amazing what you can " find " when you have unlimited access to huge amounts of supercomputing power .
The render times are probably really impressive too .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is truly amazing what you can "find" when you have unlimited access to huge amounts of supercomputing power.
The render times are probably really impressive too.
;)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28731921</id>
	<title>Re:Fifth-rate consolation prize</title>
	<author>MeatBag PussRocket</author>
	<datestamp>1247854380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i agree this is a stupid waste that should never have happened and its saddening. the only thing i'll add is an NPR interview with the original designer of the camera reveals that apprently when GPS and other satellite networks were being deployed they were generating a huge ammount of data, they needed to store it and it wasnt a matter of bean counters, the medium they were storing it on was these magnetic tapes and they were writing so much of it that it was causing aglobal shortage of the media. thats why they were raiding the warehouses for tapes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i agree this is a stupid waste that should never have happened and its saddening .
the only thing i 'll add is an NPR interview with the original designer of the camera reveals that apprently when GPS and other satellite networks were being deployed they were generating a huge ammount of data , they needed to store it and it wasnt a matter of bean counters , the medium they were storing it on was these magnetic tapes and they were writing so much of it that it was causing aglobal shortage of the media .
thats why they were raiding the warehouses for tapes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i agree this is a stupid waste that should never have happened and its saddening.
the only thing i'll add is an NPR interview with the original designer of the camera reveals that apprently when GPS and other satellite networks were being deployed they were generating a huge ammount of data, they needed to store it and it wasnt a matter of bean counters, the medium they were storing it on was these magnetic tapes and they were writing so much of it that it was causing aglobal shortage of the media.
thats why they were raiding the warehouses for tapes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722073</id>
	<title>Why is Vanilla Ice on the Apollo Tapes?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247736060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>One time after a high school band concert where we had made a semi-professional recording. I asked if I could make a copy of it.  Most dual tape decks I was used too had the source on the left and the destination the right.  This deck was reversed and I ended up recording over the only copy of the concert recording with Rhythm is a Dancer. My band director was not amused. Looking back, it was kinda funny.

Maybe someone at NASA did something similar?</htmltext>
<tokenext>One time after a high school band concert where we had made a semi-professional recording .
I asked if I could make a copy of it .
Most dual tape decks I was used too had the source on the left and the destination the right .
This deck was reversed and I ended up recording over the only copy of the concert recording with Rhythm is a Dancer .
My band director was not amused .
Looking back , it was kinda funny .
Maybe someone at NASA did something similar ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One time after a high school band concert where we had made a semi-professional recording.
I asked if I could make a copy of it.
Most dual tape decks I was used too had the source on the left and the destination the right.
This deck was reversed and I ended up recording over the only copy of the concert recording with Rhythm is a Dancer.
My band director was not amused.
Looking back, it was kinda funny.
Maybe someone at NASA did something similar?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722951</id>
	<title>Borning - Cancel program &amp; delete the tapes</title>
	<author>cockpitcomp</author>
	<datestamp>1247739840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The moon must be a boring place to cancel the final missions after the rockets were built, delete the tapes and not even think of going back for 40 years. It's only interesting again as a jumping off point for Mars and maybe the H3 stuff.<br> <br>We are ready to junk the ISS and are just finishing it now.<br> <br>Hubble had enough bling-bling to force NASA to get more use out of it.<br> <br>Mars landers nearly lost funding for the team that drives them around after the official 90 day mission.<br> <br>I bet we forget about the manned Mars mission 2 months after launch.<br> <br>Personally, I would rather the funding go to hundreds of unmanned probes and actually learn something rather than spend it all on a pie in the sky manned mission that already seems to lack enough interest to trigger significant funding.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The moon must be a boring place to cancel the final missions after the rockets were built , delete the tapes and not even think of going back for 40 years .
It 's only interesting again as a jumping off point for Mars and maybe the H3 stuff .
We are ready to junk the ISS and are just finishing it now .
Hubble had enough bling-bling to force NASA to get more use out of it .
Mars landers nearly lost funding for the team that drives them around after the official 90 day mission .
I bet we forget about the manned Mars mission 2 months after launch .
Personally , I would rather the funding go to hundreds of unmanned probes and actually learn something rather than spend it all on a pie in the sky manned mission that already seems to lack enough interest to trigger significant funding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The moon must be a boring place to cancel the final missions after the rockets were built, delete the tapes and not even think of going back for 40 years.
It's only interesting again as a jumping off point for Mars and maybe the H3 stuff.
We are ready to junk the ISS and are just finishing it now.
Hubble had enough bling-bling to force NASA to get more use out of it.
Mars landers nearly lost funding for the team that drives them around after the official 90 day mission.
I bet we forget about the manned Mars mission 2 months after launch.
Personally, I would rather the funding go to hundreds of unmanned probes and actually learn something rather than spend it all on a pie in the sky manned mission that already seems to lack enough interest to trigger significant funding.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_16_206229.28722105</id>
	<title>After The Shuttle Is Shuttered, PLEASE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247736180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>contract with <a href="http://www.energia.ru/english/" title="energia.ru" rel="nofollow">Energia</a> [energia.ru] for future<br>space launches so N.A.S.A. can do something RIGHT.</p><p>Yours In Baikonur,<br>Kilgore Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>contract with Energia [ energia.ru ] for futurespace launches so N.A.S.A .
can do something RIGHT.Yours In Baikonur,Kilgore Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>contract with Energia [energia.ru] for futurespace launches so N.A.S.A.
can do something RIGHT.Yours In Baikonur,Kilgore Trout</sentencetext>
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