<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_15_2012221</id>
	<title>Spyware In BlackBerry Updates For Users in the UAE</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1247646000000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.mulaz.org/" rel="nofollow">mulaz</a> writes with this excerpt from The Register: <i>"An update pushed out to BlackBerry users on the Etisalat network in the United Arab Emirates appears to contain <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/14/blackberry\_snooping/">remotely-triggered spyware that allows the interception of messages and emails</a>, as well as crippling battery life. Sent out as a WAP Push message, the update installs a Java file that one curious customer decided to take a closer look at, only to discover an application intended to intercept both email and text messages, sending a copy to an Etisalat server without the user being aware of anything beyond a slightly excessive battery drain."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>mulaz writes with this excerpt from The Register : " An update pushed out to BlackBerry users on the Etisalat network in the United Arab Emirates appears to contain remotely-triggered spyware that allows the interception of messages and emails , as well as crippling battery life .
Sent out as a WAP Push message , the update installs a Java file that one curious customer decided to take a closer look at , only to discover an application intended to intercept both email and text messages , sending a copy to an Etisalat server without the user being aware of anything beyond a slightly excessive battery drain .
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<sentencetext>mulaz writes with this excerpt from The Register: "An update pushed out to BlackBerry users on the Etisalat network in the United Arab Emirates appears to contain remotely-triggered spyware that allows the interception of messages and emails, as well as crippling battery life.
Sent out as a WAP Push message, the update installs a Java file that one curious customer decided to take a closer look at, only to discover an application intended to intercept both email and text messages, sending a copy to an Etisalat server without the user being aware of anything beyond a slightly excessive battery drain.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28711521</id>
	<title>Re:It's one from column A OR one from B not both.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247670420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>" as well as crippling battery life." is not the same as "a slightly excessive battery drain."</p></div><p>A little to quick to post something?</p><p>Main Entry: <a href="http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/cripple" title="reference.com" rel="nofollow">cripple</a> [reference.com] <br>
Part of Speech: 	verb<br>
Definition: hinder action, progress<br>
Synonyms: bring to standstill, cramp, damage, destroy, halt, hamstring, <b>impair</b>, put out of action, ruin, spoil, stifle, vitiate</p><p>So, you're saying that extra battery drain doesn't impair battery life?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" as well as crippling battery life .
" is not the same as " a slightly excessive battery drain .
" A little to quick to post something ? Main Entry : cripple [ reference.com ] Part of Speech : verb Definition : hinder action , progress Synonyms : bring to standstill , cramp , damage , destroy , halt , hamstring , impair , put out of action , ruin , spoil , stifle , vitiateSo , you 're saying that extra battery drain does n't impair battery life ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>" as well as crippling battery life.
" is not the same as "a slightly excessive battery drain.
"A little to quick to post something?Main Entry: cripple [reference.com] 
Part of Speech: 	verb
Definition: hinder action, progress
Synonyms: bring to standstill, cramp, damage, destroy, halt, hamstring, impair, put out of action, ruin, spoil, stifle, vitiateSo, you're saying that extra battery drain doesn't impair battery life?
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	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707827</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28712225</id>
	<title>Thread deleted on BlackBerry support forums</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247676180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article mentioned in the original post linked to a BlackBerry support forums post explaining the spyware and how to remove it.</p><p>Post was quickly deleted by forum admins.</p><p>Copy mostly still available through Google cache, and has been reposted.  Let's see how long it stays up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article mentioned in the original post linked to a BlackBerry support forums post explaining the spyware and how to remove it.Post was quickly deleted by forum admins.Copy mostly still available through Google cache , and has been reposted .
Let 's see how long it stays up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article mentioned in the original post linked to a BlackBerry support forums post explaining the spyware and how to remove it.Post was quickly deleted by forum admins.Copy mostly still available through Google cache, and has been reposted.
Let's see how long it stays up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708185</id>
	<title>Removal utility link deleted</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247651880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Register article stated:</p><blockquote><div><p>No one from Etisalat, RIM, or SS8 is saying anything about the issue, despite the fact that the application appears remarkably difficult to remove. Enterprising hackers, though, have discovered it can be done, with one providing a useful utility (seventh message down) to automate the process.</p></div></blockquote><p>It pointed to this link: <a href="http://supportforums.blackberry.com/rim/board/message?board.id=BlackBerryDeviceSoftware&amp;thread.id=5504&amp;view=by\_date\_ascending&amp;page=2" title="blackberry.com">http://supportforums.blackberry.com/rim/board/message?board.id=BlackBerryDeviceSoftware&amp;thread.id=5504&amp;view=by\_date\_ascending&amp;page=2</a> [blackberry.com]</p><p>But if you follow it you get:</p><blockquote><div><p>The message you are trying to access has been deleted. Please update your bookmarks.</p></div></blockquote><p>Interesting.</p><p>Doug</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Register article stated : No one from Etisalat , RIM , or SS8 is saying anything about the issue , despite the fact that the application appears remarkably difficult to remove .
Enterprising hackers , though , have discovered it can be done , with one providing a useful utility ( seventh message down ) to automate the process.It pointed to this link : http : //supportforums.blackberry.com/rim/board/message ? board.id = BlackBerryDeviceSoftware&amp;thread.id = 5504&amp;view = by \ _date \ _ascending&amp;page = 2 [ blackberry.com ] But if you follow it you get : The message you are trying to access has been deleted .
Please update your bookmarks.Interesting.Doug</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Register article stated:No one from Etisalat, RIM, or SS8 is saying anything about the issue, despite the fact that the application appears remarkably difficult to remove.
Enterprising hackers, though, have discovered it can be done, with one providing a useful utility (seventh message down) to automate the process.It pointed to this link: http://supportforums.blackberry.com/rim/board/message?board.id=BlackBerryDeviceSoftware&amp;thread.id=5504&amp;view=by\_date\_ascending&amp;page=2 [blackberry.com]But if you follow it you get:The message you are trying to access has been deleted.
Please update your bookmarks.Interesting.Doug
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707799</id>
	<title>it's a feature</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247649840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>c'mon real time backup, can't beat that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>c'mon real time backup , ca n't beat that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>c'mon real time backup, can't beat that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708577</id>
	<title>Re:How slightly?</title>
	<author>Hadlock</author>
	<datestamp>1247653740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know if I leave google maps on in the background on my blackberry, the batter life is pretty much cut in half. I notice that pretty quickly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know if I leave google maps on in the background on my blackberry , the batter life is pretty much cut in half .
I notice that pretty quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know if I leave google maps on in the background on my blackberry, the batter life is pretty much cut in half.
I notice that pretty quickly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707891</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28712063</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>Johnno74</author>
	<datestamp>1247674560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You sure that this "siren" is infact caused by speeding?</p><p>I was in egypt a few years ago, and all the taxi drivers and most of the locals had installed a "manual override" switch on their dash for the car alarm.  Basically they would flick the switch so the alarm would start howling, then they would drive like complete nutbars.   Stuck behind a truck?  Simple, your driver would flick the switch, honk their horn and flash their lights as quickly as possible and just pull out into oncoming traffic.</p><p>As far as I could gather, the road rules there were give way to the cars with louder alarms and horns, and ones where the driver was flashing their lights faster.</p><p>Truly, truly terrifying, I tell you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You sure that this " siren " is infact caused by speeding ? I was in egypt a few years ago , and all the taxi drivers and most of the locals had installed a " manual override " switch on their dash for the car alarm .
Basically they would flick the switch so the alarm would start howling , then they would drive like complete nutbars .
Stuck behind a truck ?
Simple , your driver would flick the switch , honk their horn and flash their lights as quickly as possible and just pull out into oncoming traffic.As far as I could gather , the road rules there were give way to the cars with louder alarms and horns , and ones where the driver was flashing their lights faster.Truly , truly terrifying , I tell you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You sure that this "siren" is infact caused by speeding?I was in egypt a few years ago, and all the taxi drivers and most of the locals had installed a "manual override" switch on their dash for the car alarm.
Basically they would flick the switch so the alarm would start howling, then they would drive like complete nutbars.
Stuck behind a truck?
Simple, your driver would flick the switch, honk their horn and flash their lights as quickly as possible and just pull out into oncoming traffic.As far as I could gather, the road rules there were give way to the cars with louder alarms and horns, and ones where the driver was flashing their lights faster.Truly, truly terrifying, I tell you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708687</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707827</id>
	<title>It's one from column A OR one from B not both.</title>
	<author>Magee\_MC</author>
	<datestamp>1247649960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>" as well as crippling battery life." is not the same as "a slightly excessive battery drain."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" as well as crippling battery life .
" is not the same as " a slightly excessive battery drain .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>" as well as crippling battery life.
" is not the same as "a slightly excessive battery drain.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28717737</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247762880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Umm.. seriously.. this is completely fiction.</p><p>The UAE has enough idiotic laws and issues that make it as sucky as you want it to be.. but built-in sirens? Seriously? Come on man.. I've been living here for 6 years and no...</p><p>There was technology that was proposed to be placed in cars (and I am pretty damn sure it doesn't sit in your license plate).. but that was something internationally covered and was never UAE or Dubai-specific.</p><p>Please don't spread rumors about things you obviously heard from a friend of a friend of a friend.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Umm.. seriously.. this is completely fiction.The UAE has enough idiotic laws and issues that make it as sucky as you want it to be.. but built-in sirens ?
Seriously ? Come on man.. I 've been living here for 6 years and no...There was technology that was proposed to be placed in cars ( and I am pretty damn sure it does n't sit in your license plate ) .. but that was something internationally covered and was never UAE or Dubai-specific.Please do n't spread rumors about things you obviously heard from a friend of a friend of a friend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Umm.. seriously.. this is completely fiction.The UAE has enough idiotic laws and issues that make it as sucky as you want it to be.. but built-in sirens?
Seriously? Come on man.. I've been living here for 6 years and no...There was technology that was proposed to be placed in cars (and I am pretty damn sure it doesn't sit in your license plate).. but that was something internationally covered and was never UAE or Dubai-specific.Please don't spread rumors about things you obviously heard from a friend of a friend of a friend.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708687</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28711099</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>julian67</author>
	<datestamp>1247667240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sometimes tor works, sometimes not.  Sometimes p2p networks are acessible, sometimes not. Why is Skype and other internet telephony forbidden? It gives users access to encrypted communication and threatens Etisilat's monopolistic pricing.  Why does the Blackberry get a UAE specific update?  To disallow encrypted communication. I can't work out why flickr is blocked<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sometimes tor works , sometimes not .
Sometimes p2p networks are acessible , sometimes not .
Why is Skype and other internet telephony forbidden ?
It gives users access to encrypted communication and threatens Etisilat 's monopolistic pricing .
Why does the Blackberry get a UAE specific update ?
To disallow encrypted communication .
I ca n't work out why flickr is blocked ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sometimes tor works, sometimes not.
Sometimes p2p networks are acessible, sometimes not.
Why is Skype and other internet telephony forbidden?
It gives users access to encrypted communication and threatens Etisilat's monopolistic pricing.
Why does the Blackberry get a UAE specific update?
To disallow encrypted communication.
I can't work out why flickr is blocked ....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28710913</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28711919</id>
	<title>cryptwitter - is there an app for that?</title>
	<author>bukuman</author>
	<datestamp>1247673480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe they/we need a crypto-twitter app?</p><ul><li>Make minimal assumptions of the phone capabilities.</li><li>Don't rely on 'external' certificate / cert providers etc, roll your own.</li><li>Don't rely on the device libraries, you cannot afford to trust even the phone.</li><li>Phone app to include some kind of cert to authenticate itself to the service (at least make an effort).</li><li>ssl based coms</li><li>http or sms transport</li><li>some kind of distributed multiple redundant backend; tor-ish and resistant to dns spoofing</li><li>certificate based authentication of the servers to the client</li><li>structure social network/email/bbs style systems over that underlying safe communication channel.</li><li>Ensure the system and legals are structured so that breaking into it to read the clear text comes under DMCA 'circumvention of technical measures to control access to copyright material' - about the most draconian laws there are.</li></ul><p>Does something like this exist?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they/we need a crypto-twitter app ? Make minimal assumptions of the phone capabilities.Do n't rely on 'external ' certificate / cert providers etc , roll your own.Do n't rely on the device libraries , you can not afford to trust even the phone.Phone app to include some kind of cert to authenticate itself to the service ( at least make an effort ) .ssl based comshttp or sms transportsome kind of distributed multiple redundant backend ; tor-ish and resistant to dns spoofingcertificate based authentication of the servers to the clientstructure social network/email/bbs style systems over that underlying safe communication channel.Ensure the system and legals are structured so that breaking into it to read the clear text comes under DMCA 'circumvention of technical measures to control access to copyright material ' - about the most draconian laws there are.Does something like this exist ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they/we need a crypto-twitter app?Make minimal assumptions of the phone capabilities.Don't rely on 'external' certificate / cert providers etc, roll your own.Don't rely on the device libraries, you cannot afford to trust even the phone.Phone app to include some kind of cert to authenticate itself to the service (at least make an effort).ssl based comshttp or sms transportsome kind of distributed multiple redundant backend; tor-ish and resistant to dns spoofingcertificate based authentication of the servers to the clientstructure social network/email/bbs style systems over that underlying safe communication channel.Ensure the system and legals are structured so that breaking into it to read the clear text comes under DMCA 'circumvention of technical measures to control access to copyright material' - about the most draconian laws there are.Does something like this exist?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707929</id>
	<title>good for them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247650380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>my guess is the UAE wanted to come inline with U.S. American standards of communications.</htmltext>
<tokenext>my guess is the UAE wanted to come inline with U.S. American standards of communications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my guess is the UAE wanted to come inline with U.S. American standards of communications.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28710455</id>
	<title>Re:More information</title>
	<author>Ozlanthos</author>
	<datestamp>1247662680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Heaven forbid they admit it to be what it really is: a state-mandated political/commercial/private spyware app. I am sure it references which cell towers are closest to you so that they can use it to track your physical movements too. I love it, just like the way we pay people to spy on/arrest us for not using the "right" drugs, they pay their government to track their every move. Ironic as all hell. I think we need to plan and execute "a cell-phone day of silence". An entire day when we remove the batteries from our mobile phones, in protest of all of the ways they have been inappropriately used to spy on and track people!

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<br>
-Oz</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heaven forbid they admit it to be what it really is : a state-mandated political/commercial/private spyware app .
I am sure it references which cell towers are closest to you so that they can use it to track your physical movements too .
I love it , just like the way we pay people to spy on/arrest us for not using the " right " drugs , they pay their government to track their every move .
Ironic as all hell .
I think we need to plan and execute " a cell-phone day of silence " .
An entire day when we remove the batteries from our mobile phones , in protest of all of the ways they have been inappropriately used to spy on and track people !
-Oz</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heaven forbid they admit it to be what it really is: a state-mandated political/commercial/private spyware app.
I am sure it references which cell towers are closest to you so that they can use it to track your physical movements too.
I love it, just like the way we pay people to spy on/arrest us for not using the "right" drugs, they pay their government to track their every move.
Ironic as all hell.
I think we need to plan and execute "a cell-phone day of silence".
An entire day when we remove the batteries from our mobile phones, in protest of all of the ways they have been inappropriately used to spy on and track people!
-Oz</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708141</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708229</id>
	<title>Was RIM complicit in the spyware distro?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247652120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not very familiar with RIM's network architecture, so it wasn't clear to me whether the UAE needed RIM's help in distributing the spyware or whether it was entirely the doing of the local phone carrier in the UAE.</p><p>Would the UAE had to have had RIM's help or did they simply buy the services of the third-party spyware vendor?</p><p>-Sean</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not very familiar with RIM 's network architecture , so it was n't clear to me whether the UAE needed RIM 's help in distributing the spyware or whether it was entirely the doing of the local phone carrier in the UAE.Would the UAE had to have had RIM 's help or did they simply buy the services of the third-party spyware vendor ? -Sean</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not very familiar with RIM's network architecture, so it wasn't clear to me whether the UAE needed RIM's help in distributing the spyware or whether it was entirely the doing of the local phone carrier in the UAE.Would the UAE had to have had RIM's help or did they simply buy the services of the third-party spyware vendor?-Sean</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28709821</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>demonlapin</author>
	<datestamp>1247659320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A cousin of mine lived there in the early 90s. He said that the speeding buzzer was there to remind the locals to turn up the radio<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>A cousin of mine lived there in the early 90s .
He said that the speeding buzzer was there to remind the locals to turn up the radio ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A cousin of mine lived there in the early 90s.
He said that the speeding buzzer was there to remind the locals to turn up the radio ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708687</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708457</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>Dan667</author>
	<datestamp>1247653140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would not call that progressive, I would call that oppressive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would not call that progressive , I would call that oppressive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would not call that progressive, I would call that oppressive.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707889</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28713141</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>raju1kabir</author>
	<datestamp>1247685000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive.</p></div> </blockquote><p>A statement that could only come from someone with basically no international experience or knowledge. UAE is as progressive as the Salem Witch Trials. The only reason people even notice it is because it's more progressive than neighbours like Saudi Arabia, which are among the most oppressive/regressive/big-messive in the world. This has allowed the Emirates to emerge as a more comfortable destination for regional oil money.
</p><p>Further hint: North America, on a population basis (i.e., mostly USA) is not very progressive in the first place.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive .
A statement that could only come from someone with basically no international experience or knowledge .
UAE is as progressive as the Salem Witch Trials .
The only reason people even notice it is because it 's more progressive than neighbours like Saudi Arabia , which are among the most oppressive/regressive/big-messive in the world .
This has allowed the Emirates to emerge as a more comfortable destination for regional oil money .
Further hint : North America , on a population basis ( i.e. , mostly USA ) is not very progressive in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive.
A statement that could only come from someone with basically no international experience or knowledge.
UAE is as progressive as the Salem Witch Trials.
The only reason people even notice it is because it's more progressive than neighbours like Saudi Arabia, which are among the most oppressive/regressive/big-messive in the world.
This has allowed the Emirates to emerge as a more comfortable destination for regional oil money.
Further hint: North America, on a population basis (i.e., mostly USA) is not very progressive in the first place.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707889</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28711527</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>stephanruby</author>
	<datestamp>1247670480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive.</p></div> </blockquote><p>[Citation needed]</p><p>The reason I'm asking is because I've known several people who've worked in embassies over there, and this is not what they've told me about it. </p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive .
[ Citation needed ] The reason I 'm asking is because I 've known several people who 've worked in embassies over there , and this is not what they 've told me about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive.
[Citation needed]The reason I'm asking is because I've known several people who've worked in embassies over there, and this is not what they've told me about it. 
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28713155</id>
	<title>I am ashamed..........</title>
	<author>mooderdxb</author>
	<datestamp>1247685120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't believe my country would try something like this. For the love of god we are not Homeland or the FBI or even the CIA!!! My ISP have made a name for them self's as the biggest idiots I have ever known. I hope this will tech them a lesson."Performance enhancement patch"</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe my country would try something like this .
For the love of god we are not Homeland or the FBI or even the CIA ! ! !
My ISP have made a name for them self 's as the biggest idiots I have ever known .
I hope this will tech them a lesson .
" Performance enhancement patch "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe my country would try something like this.
For the love of god we are not Homeland or the FBI or even the CIA!!!
My ISP have made a name for them self's as the biggest idiots I have ever known.
I hope this will tech them a lesson.
"Performance enhancement patch"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707891</id>
	<title>How slightly?</title>
	<author>damn\_registrars</author>
	<datestamp>1247650260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>slightly excessive battery drain</p></div><p>
As a crackberry user myself, I can tell you that sometimes a change in battery life isn't even something I would worry much about.  Considering the number of applications that many of us have on our 'berries, the number we have in the background at any given time, and the amount we use the applications in the foreground, a noticeable shift in battery life between Tuesday and Wednesday might not be considered abnormal.  I know there are people who just charge every night religiously because they always want to start with a full battery in the morning; if they ended at 45\% instead of 55\% they might not think anything of it as long as their charge made it to the end of the day.  <br> <br>
On the other hand if they normally end at 45\% and now they don't make it through the day, they would likely notice that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>slightly excessive battery drain As a crackberry user myself , I can tell you that sometimes a change in battery life is n't even something I would worry much about .
Considering the number of applications that many of us have on our 'berries , the number we have in the background at any given time , and the amount we use the applications in the foreground , a noticeable shift in battery life between Tuesday and Wednesday might not be considered abnormal .
I know there are people who just charge every night religiously because they always want to start with a full battery in the morning ; if they ended at 45 \ % instead of 55 \ % they might not think anything of it as long as their charge made it to the end of the day .
On the other hand if they normally end at 45 \ % and now they do n't make it through the day , they would likely notice that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>slightly excessive battery drain
As a crackberry user myself, I can tell you that sometimes a change in battery life isn't even something I would worry much about.
Considering the number of applications that many of us have on our 'berries, the number we have in the background at any given time, and the amount we use the applications in the foreground, a noticeable shift in battery life between Tuesday and Wednesday might not be considered abnormal.
I know there are people who just charge every night religiously because they always want to start with a full battery in the morning; if they ended at 45\% instead of 55\% they might not think anything of it as long as their charge made it to the end of the day.
On the other hand if they normally end at 45\% and now they don't make it through the day, they would likely notice that.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28710913</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>the 9a3eedi</author>
	<datestamp>1247665740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I dunno, some parts of your comments seem rather exaggerated.

First off, Emaratis HAVE to pay speeding fines. I know that because I'm an Emarati myself. And no, we dont get some special discount. We might be able to get away with it because we know where all the traffic radars are and so we slow down just in time<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P

There isn't any "siren" implanted in our cars. It's just the standard "bell" that comes out from the car when you go above 120km/h . I really don't think it's due to a government regulation, but it's probably dependant on the car itself. Our family bought a Pajero last, and whenever I speed, I do get a rather annoying continous beep from it, but it's not that loud. The sound can be drowned with music played in a reasonable volume.

Also, that claim that using privacy enhancing encryption can lead you to the courthouse sounds farfetched to me. I've been using privacy enhancing applications in the UAE the entire time, and I'm fine. Also, tor works. I tried. If it would really eventually make me end up in the courthouse, give me evidence.

As an Emarati, I admit that my country has some problems, but there is no need to exaggerate things and tell lies which would unnecessarily damage the reputation of the country.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno , some parts of your comments seem rather exaggerated .
First off , Emaratis HAVE to pay speeding fines .
I know that because I 'm an Emarati myself .
And no , we dont get some special discount .
We might be able to get away with it because we know where all the traffic radars are and so we slow down just in time : P There is n't any " siren " implanted in our cars .
It 's just the standard " bell " that comes out from the car when you go above 120km/h .
I really do n't think it 's due to a government regulation , but it 's probably dependant on the car itself .
Our family bought a Pajero last , and whenever I speed , I do get a rather annoying continous beep from it , but it 's not that loud .
The sound can be drowned with music played in a reasonable volume .
Also , that claim that using privacy enhancing encryption can lead you to the courthouse sounds farfetched to me .
I 've been using privacy enhancing applications in the UAE the entire time , and I 'm fine .
Also , tor works .
I tried .
If it would really eventually make me end up in the courthouse , give me evidence .
As an Emarati , I admit that my country has some problems , but there is no need to exaggerate things and tell lies which would unnecessarily damage the reputation of the country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno, some parts of your comments seem rather exaggerated.
First off, Emaratis HAVE to pay speeding fines.
I know that because I'm an Emarati myself.
And no, we dont get some special discount.
We might be able to get away with it because we know where all the traffic radars are and so we slow down just in time :P

There isn't any "siren" implanted in our cars.
It's just the standard "bell" that comes out from the car when you go above 120km/h .
I really don't think it's due to a government regulation, but it's probably dependant on the car itself.
Our family bought a Pajero last, and whenever I speed, I do get a rather annoying continous beep from it, but it's not that loud.
The sound can be drowned with music played in a reasonable volume.
Also, that claim that using privacy enhancing encryption can lead you to the courthouse sounds farfetched to me.
I've been using privacy enhancing applications in the UAE the entire time, and I'm fine.
Also, tor works.
I tried.
If it would really eventually make me end up in the courthouse, give me evidence.
As an Emarati, I admit that my country has some problems, but there is no need to exaggerate things and tell lies which would unnecessarily damage the reputation of the country.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708687</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707813</id>
	<title>Slippery Cunts</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247649840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mod me down.  Now!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod me down .
Now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod me down.
Now!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28728143</id>
	<title>That's a good point</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1247837520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now.. the President owns a Blackberry.  Does he know about this?  Foreigners could be spying on our President's texting.  That would not be helpful in treaty negotiation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now.. the President owns a Blackberry .
Does he know about this ?
Foreigners could be spying on our President 's texting .
That would not be helpful in treaty negotiation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now.. the President owns a Blackberry.
Does he know about this?
Foreigners could be spying on our President's texting.
That would not be helpful in treaty negotiation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28709475</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708105</id>
	<title>Nice, I'm paying to be spied upon!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247651340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So I am paying for my  bandwidth twice, first to receive the message and a second time for it to be forwarded to TPTB. Talk about being fsckd!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So I am paying for my bandwidth twice , first to receive the message and a second time for it to be forwarded to TPTB .
Talk about being fsckd !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I am paying for my  bandwidth twice, first to receive the message and a second time for it to be forwarded to TPTB.
Talk about being fsckd!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28713023</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247684040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive<br><br>Could you please tell me what do you mean by "Progressive" ? . Coz, I have been living in many countries of Middle East for years and this includes UAE also and they all are same more or less. Like other countries, UAE has the following,<br><br>-- Family dictatorships which have absolute control about every element of the society and economy.<br>-- No Democracy in any tangible meaning of that term<br>-- Absolutely no freedom of expression(UAE does not even allow the media to give true reports about the recession which has affected the country more than any other country in the world !)<br>-- Worst rules and laws which are inhumane to say the least.<br><br>Now unlike other countries in the region, UAE has the following,<br><br>-- Easier access to prostitution &amp; alcohol<br><br>Is this one point is what you mean by being "Progressive" ? If something else, please let me know as I have not experienced anything else in my stay here. I do admit that specifically in the case of Saudi, things are even worse as women are not allowed to have their choice of dress or job. If there is any country in the region which has some elements of "progressiveness", its Iran whom we all love to bash.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressiveCould you please tell me what do you mean by " Progressive " ?
. Coz , I have been living in many countries of Middle East for years and this includes UAE also and they all are same more or less .
Like other countries , UAE has the following,-- Family dictatorships which have absolute control about every element of the society and economy.-- No Democracy in any tangible meaning of that term-- Absolutely no freedom of expression ( UAE does not even allow the media to give true reports about the recession which has affected the country more than any other country in the world !
) -- Worst rules and laws which are inhumane to say the least.Now unlike other countries in the region , UAE has the following,-- Easier access to prostitution &amp; alcoholIs this one point is what you mean by being " Progressive " ?
If something else , please let me know as I have not experienced anything else in my stay here .
I do admit that specifically in the case of Saudi , things are even worse as women are not allowed to have their choice of dress or job .
If there is any country in the region which has some elements of " progressiveness " , its Iran whom we all love to bash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressiveCould you please tell me what do you mean by "Progressive" ?
. Coz, I have been living in many countries of Middle East for years and this includes UAE also and they all are same more or less.
Like other countries, UAE has the following,-- Family dictatorships which have absolute control about every element of the society and economy.-- No Democracy in any tangible meaning of that term-- Absolutely no freedom of expression(UAE does not even allow the media to give true reports about the recession which has affected the country more than any other country in the world !
)-- Worst rules and laws which are inhumane to say the least.Now unlike other countries in the region, UAE has the following,-- Easier access to prostitution &amp; alcoholIs this one point is what you mean by being "Progressive" ?
If something else, please let me know as I have not experienced anything else in my stay here.
I do admit that specifically in the case of Saudi, things are even worse as women are not allowed to have their choice of dress or job.
If there is any country in the region which has some elements of "progressiveness", its Iran whom we all love to bash.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707889</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28712199</id>
	<title>Re:Was RIM complicit in the spyware distro?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247675820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'm not very familiar with RIM's network architecture, so it wasn't clear to me whether the UAE needed RIM's help in distributing the spyware or whether it was entirely the doing of the local phone carrier in the UAE.</i></p><p>They didn't need RIM's help. Unlike many cell phone vendors, RIM publishes lots of documentation, APIs, and even gives away free emulators to make it easier for developers.</p><p>There's a company in Thailand that sells similar spyware software for blackberries, but they market it to jealous spouses and suspicious parents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not very familiar with RIM 's network architecture , so it was n't clear to me whether the UAE needed RIM 's help in distributing the spyware or whether it was entirely the doing of the local phone carrier in the UAE.They did n't need RIM 's help .
Unlike many cell phone vendors , RIM publishes lots of documentation , APIs , and even gives away free emulators to make it easier for developers.There 's a company in Thailand that sells similar spyware software for blackberries , but they market it to jealous spouses and suspicious parents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not very familiar with RIM's network architecture, so it wasn't clear to me whether the UAE needed RIM's help in distributing the spyware or whether it was entirely the doing of the local phone carrier in the UAE.They didn't need RIM's help.
Unlike many cell phone vendors, RIM publishes lots of documentation, APIs, and even gives away free emulators to make it easier for developers.There's a company in Thailand that sells similar spyware software for blackberries, but they market it to jealous spouses and suspicious parents.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708229</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708179</id>
	<title>Re:Why would they need this?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247651820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Something smells fishy.</p></div></blockquote><p>Maybe it's <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1304061&amp;cid=28707749" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">this guy's</a> [slashdot.org] panties.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Something smells fishy.Maybe it 's this guy 's [ slashdot.org ] panties .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something smells fishy.Maybe it's this guy's [slashdot.org] panties.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708103</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708141</id>
	<title>More information</title>
	<author>mothrsuperior</author>
	<datestamp>1247651640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the register has a followup (including some code) <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/15/etisalat\_blackberry\_snooping/" title="theregister.co.uk" rel="nofollow">here</a> [theregister.co.uk].<br>
&nbsp; <a href="http://www.etisalat.ae/index.jsp?lang=en&amp;type=content&amp;currentid=10c8e15c0b56a010VgnVCM1000000a0a0a0a\_\_\_\_&amp;contentid=41a107706bc72210VgnVCM1000000c24a8c0RCRD&amp;parentid=fa58800d1f52a010VgnVCM1000000a0a0a0a\_\_\_\_" title="etisalat.ae" rel="nofollow">Apparently</a> [etisalat.ae] etisalat claims the spyware is for troubleshooting during the 2g to 3g upgrade.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the register has a followup ( including some code ) here [ theregister.co.uk ] .
  Apparently [ etisalat.ae ] etisalat claims the spyware is for troubleshooting during the 2g to 3g upgrade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the register has a followup (including some code) here [theregister.co.uk].
  Apparently [etisalat.ae] etisalat claims the spyware is for troubleshooting during the 2g to 3g upgrade.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708155</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247651700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive"<br>Hahahahaha, ahem, sorry I mean LOL. Are you serious?<br>What's so "progressive" about north american countries? Different isn't better per se.<br>"in North America we are an odd country and culture - we simply take it as the norm that nobody will listen to us"<br>That's at least a generalisation, and some might say naive.<br>"a foreigner in a position of influence that he would be monitored regularly if not constantly."<br>Yes, that would never happen in north America.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive " Hahahahaha , ahem , sorry I mean LOL .
Are you serious ? What 's so " progressive " about north american countries ?
Different is n't better per se .
" in North America we are an odd country and culture - we simply take it as the norm that nobody will listen to us " That 's at least a generalisation , and some might say naive .
" a foreigner in a position of influence that he would be monitored regularly if not constantly .
" Yes , that would never happen in north America .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive"Hahahahaha, ahem, sorry I mean LOL.
Are you serious?What's so "progressive" about north american countries?
Different isn't better per se.
"in North America we are an odd country and culture - we simply take it as the norm that nobody will listen to us"That's at least a generalisation, and some might say naive.
"a foreigner in a position of influence that he would be monitored regularly if not constantly.
"Yes, that would never happen in north America.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28746339</id>
	<title>More update!</title>
	<author>makemine</author>
	<datestamp>1247994960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Veracode has provided an analysis of the spyware source code. The spyware apparently is designed to encrypt messages it grabs from a BlackBerry before it sends them back to the server so that anyone intercepting the data en-route would not be able to read it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Veracode has provided an analysis of the spyware source code .
The spyware apparently is designed to encrypt messages it grabs from a BlackBerry before it sends them back to the server so that anyone intercepting the data en-route would not be able to read it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Veracode has provided an analysis of the spyware source code.
The spyware apparently is designed to encrypt messages it grabs from a BlackBerry before it sends them back to the server so that anyone intercepting the data en-route would not be able to read it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708715</id>
	<title>Did it install on all Blackberry's connected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247654460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am assuming it only installed on Blackberry's that were customers of Etisalat's network - or if I was traveling there at the time of the push, would it have installed on my blackberry as well?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am assuming it only installed on Blackberry 's that were customers of Etisalat 's network - or if I was traveling there at the time of the push , would it have installed on my blackberry as well ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am assuming it only installed on Blackberry's that were customers of Etisalat's network - or if I was traveling there at the time of the push, would it have installed on my blackberry as well?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28715599</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>james.m.henderson</author>
	<datestamp>1247754060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, UAE is <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html" title="independent.co.uk" rel="nofollow">very</a> [independent.co.uk] progressive.  Anybody who chooses to expatriate and live in such a slave-state really can't complain if things go against them after a time.  I would never trust a contract to work in Dubai, not only because it would violate my own moral code, but because anybody who chooses to live there is probably not someone I should trust.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , UAE is very [ independent.co.uk ] progressive .
Anybody who chooses to expatriate and live in such a slave-state really ca n't complain if things go against them after a time .
I would never trust a contract to work in Dubai , not only because it would violate my own moral code , but because anybody who chooses to live there is probably not someone I should trust .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, UAE is very [independent.co.uk] progressive.
Anybody who chooses to expatriate and live in such a slave-state really can't complain if things go against them after a time.
I would never trust a contract to work in Dubai, not only because it would violate my own moral code, but because anybody who chooses to live there is probably not someone I should trust.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707889</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28713099</id>
	<title>Re:How slightly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247684520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Etisalat claimed a 'slight' issue, I beg to differ... On a day off at home (little or no usage) my Bold went from fully charged overnight to "low battery" in 3-4 hours. Normally I get about 14-16 hours with a normal day's usage. Also, the battery heated up quite noticeably and it wasn't until I disabled the rogue app that things went back to normal.</p><p>There were reports of people buying new batteries, and even a few with more money than brains bought replacement handhelds!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Etisalat claimed a 'slight ' issue , I beg to differ... On a day off at home ( little or no usage ) my Bold went from fully charged overnight to " low battery " in 3-4 hours .
Normally I get about 14-16 hours with a normal day 's usage .
Also , the battery heated up quite noticeably and it was n't until I disabled the rogue app that things went back to normal.There were reports of people buying new batteries , and even a few with more money than brains bought replacement handhelds !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Etisalat claimed a 'slight' issue, I beg to differ... On a day off at home (little or no usage) my Bold went from fully charged overnight to "low battery" in 3-4 hours.
Normally I get about 14-16 hours with a normal day's usage.
Also, the battery heated up quite noticeably and it wasn't until I disabled the rogue app that things went back to normal.There were reports of people buying new batteries, and even a few with more money than brains bought replacement handhelds!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707891</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708103</id>
	<title>Why would they need this?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247651340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why would the carrier need to route messages and data coming through their systems *back* to their systems to read them? They are, after all, the carrier of all this data in the first place. Why can't they just sniff around in it in the middle?<br> <br>

Something smells fishy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would the carrier need to route messages and data coming through their systems * back * to their systems to read them ?
They are , after all , the carrier of all this data in the first place .
Why ca n't they just sniff around in it in the middle ?
Something smells fishy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would the carrier need to route messages and data coming through their systems *back* to their systems to read them?
They are, after all, the carrier of all this data in the first place.
Why can't they just sniff around in it in the middle?
Something smells fishy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28709475</id>
	<title>Re:Did it install on all Blackberry's connected</title>
	<author>HTH NE1</author>
	<datestamp>1247657700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SS8 says their software is used by "some of the largest service providers in the world," so it may have been more surreptitiously pushed in phases by your own provider already.</p><p>Bum, bum, buuuuummmm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SS8 says their software is used by " some of the largest service providers in the world , " so it may have been more surreptitiously pushed in phases by your own provider already.Bum , bum , buuuuummmm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SS8 says their software is used by "some of the largest service providers in the world," so it may have been more surreptitiously pushed in phases by your own provider already.Bum, bum, buuuuummmm.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707749</id>
	<title>Panties STINK!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247649660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Panties Stink!<br>They really, really stink!<br>Sometimes they're red, sometimes they're green,<br>Sometimes they're white or black or pink<br>Sometimes they're satin, sometimes they're lace<br>Sometimes they're cotton and soak up stains<br>But at the end of the day, it really makes you think<br>Wooooooo-wheeeee! Panties stink!</p><p>Sometimes they're on the bathroom floor<br>Your girlfriend- what a whore!<br>Sometimes they're warm and wet and raw<br>From beneath the skirt of your mother-in-law<br>Brownish stains from daily wear<br>A gusset full of pubic hair<br>Just make sure your nose is ready<br>For the tang of a sweat-soaked wedgie<br>In your hand a pair of drawers<br>With a funky feminine discharge<br>Give your nose a rest, fix yourself a drink<br>cause wooooooo-wheeeeeee! panties stink!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Panties Stink ! They really , really stink ! Sometimes they 're red , sometimes they 're green,Sometimes they 're white or black or pinkSometimes they 're satin , sometimes they 're laceSometimes they 're cotton and soak up stainsBut at the end of the day , it really makes you thinkWooooooo-wheeeee !
Panties stink ! Sometimes they 're on the bathroom floorYour girlfriend- what a whore ! Sometimes they 're warm and wet and rawFrom beneath the skirt of your mother-in-lawBrownish stains from daily wearA gusset full of pubic hairJust make sure your nose is readyFor the tang of a sweat-soaked wedgieIn your hand a pair of drawersWith a funky feminine dischargeGive your nose a rest , fix yourself a drinkcause wooooooo-wheeeeeee !
panties stink !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Panties Stink!They really, really stink!Sometimes they're red, sometimes they're green,Sometimes they're white or black or pinkSometimes they're satin, sometimes they're laceSometimes they're cotton and soak up stainsBut at the end of the day, it really makes you thinkWooooooo-wheeeee!
Panties stink!Sometimes they're on the bathroom floorYour girlfriend- what a whore!Sometimes they're warm and wet and rawFrom beneath the skirt of your mother-in-lawBrownish stains from daily wearA gusset full of pubic hairJust make sure your nose is readyFor the tang of a sweat-soaked wedgieIn your hand a pair of drawersWith a funky feminine dischargeGive your nose a rest, fix yourself a drinkcause wooooooo-wheeeeeee!
panties stink!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707889</id>
	<title>UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247650260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive.  But a former client of mine who spent 8 yrs there working in administration pointed out - "in North America we are an odd country and culture - we simply take it as the norm that nobody will listen to us.  That level of privacy is not the norm, it's unusual"

He was in a senior healthcare position and essentially knew as a foreigner in a position of influence that he would be monitored regularly if not constantly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive .
But a former client of mine who spent 8 yrs there working in administration pointed out - " in North America we are an odd country and culture - we simply take it as the norm that nobody will listen to us .
That level of privacy is not the norm , it 's unusual " He was in a senior healthcare position and essentially knew as a foreigner in a position of influence that he would be monitored regularly if not constantly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as non-north-american countries go - the UAE is very progressive.
But a former client of mine who spent 8 yrs there working in administration pointed out - "in North America we are an odd country and culture - we simply take it as the norm that nobody will listen to us.
That level of privacy is not the norm, it's unusual"

He was in a senior healthcare position and essentially knew as a foreigner in a position of influence that he would be monitored regularly if not constantly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708177</id>
	<title>Re:Why would they need this?</title>
	<author>cvolny</author>
	<datestamp>1247651820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>From the Register:
"While text messages and phone calls are usually more easily intercepted at the network operator, the BlackBerry architecture doesn't lend itself to that kind of legally-authorised interception, which has caused problems in several other countries. It seems probable that this application was an attempt by the authorities to circumvent that architecture, and it will be interesting to see if a similar application appears on competing UEA operators."</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the Register : " While text messages and phone calls are usually more easily intercepted at the network operator , the BlackBerry architecture does n't lend itself to that kind of legally-authorised interception , which has caused problems in several other countries .
It seems probable that this application was an attempt by the authorities to circumvent that architecture , and it will be interesting to see if a similar application appears on competing UEA operators .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the Register:
"While text messages and phone calls are usually more easily intercepted at the network operator, the BlackBerry architecture doesn't lend itself to that kind of legally-authorised interception, which has caused problems in several other countries.
It seems probable that this application was an attempt by the authorities to circumvent that architecture, and it will be interesting to see if a similar application appears on competing UEA operators.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708687</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247654280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes it's so progressive that every new car comes with a tracking device built in so the govt always knows where you're driving. It also knows when you go to fast.  They have this amzing system whereby if you drive over the speed limit a siren sounds in your car and gets louder and louder until you slow down to within the limit. Driving around Dubai you'll be passed by speeding cars with a terrible wailing siren sounding out over the terrible bass heavy music. These drivers are Emiratis, locals (70\% of the population is foreign workers).  They won't have to pay the fine so as long as they can stand the noise they'll drive as fast as they like.  It's a bizarre phenomenon.

It's absolutely no surprise that the state monopoly telco would also like access to all your communications whatever device you use. Skype is banned, and tor is blocked and using any privacy enhancing encryption leads not to the unfettered web but to the court house.

Also progressive: jail time for sex outside of marriage, deportation with no notice if your boss withdraws your work permit and so on.  I guess it looks progressive next to Saudi, but mostly it isn't progressive, only rich.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes it 's so progressive that every new car comes with a tracking device built in so the govt always knows where you 're driving .
It also knows when you go to fast .
They have this amzing system whereby if you drive over the speed limit a siren sounds in your car and gets louder and louder until you slow down to within the limit .
Driving around Dubai you 'll be passed by speeding cars with a terrible wailing siren sounding out over the terrible bass heavy music .
These drivers are Emiratis , locals ( 70 \ % of the population is foreign workers ) .
They wo n't have to pay the fine so as long as they can stand the noise they 'll drive as fast as they like .
It 's a bizarre phenomenon .
It 's absolutely no surprise that the state monopoly telco would also like access to all your communications whatever device you use .
Skype is banned , and tor is blocked and using any privacy enhancing encryption leads not to the unfettered web but to the court house .
Also progressive : jail time for sex outside of marriage , deportation with no notice if your boss withdraws your work permit and so on .
I guess it looks progressive next to Saudi , but mostly it is n't progressive , only rich .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes it's so progressive that every new car comes with a tracking device built in so the govt always knows where you're driving.
It also knows when you go to fast.
They have this amzing system whereby if you drive over the speed limit a siren sounds in your car and gets louder and louder until you slow down to within the limit.
Driving around Dubai you'll be passed by speeding cars with a terrible wailing siren sounding out over the terrible bass heavy music.
These drivers are Emiratis, locals (70\% of the population is foreign workers).
They won't have to pay the fine so as long as they can stand the noise they'll drive as fast as they like.
It's a bizarre phenomenon.
It's absolutely no surprise that the state monopoly telco would also like access to all your communications whatever device you use.
Skype is banned, and tor is blocked and using any privacy enhancing encryption leads not to the unfettered web but to the court house.
Also progressive: jail time for sex outside of marriage, deportation with no notice if your boss withdraws your work permit and so on.
I guess it looks progressive next to Saudi, but mostly it isn't progressive, only rich.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707889</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28708907</id>
	<title>No, not interesting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247655300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's just a typo in the link, and for some reason the 404 page says "deleted" instead of just "not found".  If you read the elreg comments page, you can find the corrected URL and the thread is still live:</p><p><a href="http://supportforums.blackberry.com/rim/board/message?board.id=BlackBerryDeviceSoftware&amp;thread.id=5632&amp;view=by\_date\_ascending&amp;page=1" title="blackberry.com" rel="nofollow">http://supportforums.blackberry.com/rim/board/message?board.id=BlackBerryDeviceSoftware&amp;thread.id=5632&amp;view=by\_date\_ascending&amp;page=1</a> [blackberry.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's just a typo in the link , and for some reason the 404 page says " deleted " instead of just " not found " .
If you read the elreg comments page , you can find the corrected URL and the thread is still live : http : //supportforums.blackberry.com/rim/board/message ? board.id = BlackBerryDeviceSoftware&amp;thread.id = 5632&amp;view = by \ _date \ _ascending&amp;page = 1 [ blackberry.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's just a typo in the link, and for some reason the 404 page says "deleted" instead of just "not found".
If you read the elreg comments page, you can find the corrected URL and the thread is still live:http://supportforums.blackberry.com/rim/board/message?board.id=BlackBerryDeviceSoftware&amp;thread.id=5632&amp;view=by\_date\_ascending&amp;page=1 [blackberry.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28709483</id>
	<title>Encrypted emails between blackberries</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247657700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought the messages between blackberries were encrypted.  How is a man in the middle attack even possible?</p><p>rose@askauntrose.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought the messages between blackberries were encrypted .
How is a man in the middle attack even possible ? rose @ askauntrose.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought the messages between blackberries were encrypted.
How is a man in the middle attack even possible?rose@askauntrose.com</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28712393</id>
	<title>Re:UAE - no surprise</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247678160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>my money is on the US government paying the provider to scan the email so they can find out where all the nasties are.</p><p>Get a cheque right from the C.I.A.  Sweet!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>my money is on the US government paying the provider to scan the email so they can find out where all the nasties are.Get a cheque right from the C.I.A .
Sweet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my money is on the US government paying the provider to scan the email so they can find out where all the nasties are.Get a cheque right from the C.I.A.
Sweet!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28707889</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2012221.28709655</id>
	<title>Full package including source</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247658420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here is the full compiled code as well as the decompiled source</p><p><a href="http://www.zshare.net/download/6271263910e5cbec/" title="zshare.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.zshare.net/download/6271263910e5cbec/</a> [zshare.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here is the full compiled code as well as the decompiled sourcehttp : //www.zshare.net/download/6271263910e5cbec/ [ zshare.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here is the full compiled code as well as the decompiled sourcehttp://www.zshare.net/download/6271263910e5cbec/ [zshare.net]</sentencetext>
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