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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_15_1554234</id>
	<title>China Bans Shock Treatment For Internet Addiction</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1247674500000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/" rel="nofollow">angry tapir</a> writes <i>"China has <a href="http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/311224/china\_bans\_shock\_treatment\_internet\_addiction">banned the use of shock therapy</a> to treat Internet addiction after its use at one hospital sparked nationwide controversy. The hospital drew wide media coverage in recent months after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums about being tied down and subjected to shocks for 30 minutes at a time."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>angry tapir writes " China has banned the use of shock therapy to treat Internet addiction after its use at one hospital sparked nationwide controversy .
The hospital drew wide media coverage in recent months after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums about being tied down and subjected to shocks for 30 minutes at a time .
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<sentencetext>angry tapir writes "China has banned the use of shock therapy to treat Internet addiction after its use at one hospital sparked nationwide controversy.
The hospital drew wide media coverage in recent months after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums about being tied down and subjected to shocks for 30 minutes at a time.
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	<title>Obligatory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247682120000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I, for one, am shocked!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I , for one , am shocked !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, for one, am shocked!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28710247</id>
	<title>Re:Before anyone asks about Western shock therapy.</title>
	<author>Macgrrl</author>
	<datestamp>1247661780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a friend who went through ECT for severe depression. Given she was sectioned into a psychiatric hospital by her parents without consent, I'd be hard pressed to say her ECT was with informed consent, or even if it was overall a positive force in her life, the side effects have been pretty traumatic for her. Not to mention the effect it had on her realitionship with her family.</p><p>She was over 21 when she was committed, with a university degree and had been holding down a job as webmaster for a Teir 1 bank in Australia.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a friend who went through ECT for severe depression .
Given she was sectioned into a psychiatric hospital by her parents without consent , I 'd be hard pressed to say her ECT was with informed consent , or even if it was overall a positive force in her life , the side effects have been pretty traumatic for her .
Not to mention the effect it had on her realitionship with her family.She was over 21 when she was committed , with a university degree and had been holding down a job as webmaster for a Teir 1 bank in Australia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a friend who went through ECT for severe depression.
Given she was sectioned into a psychiatric hospital by her parents without consent, I'd be hard pressed to say her ECT was with informed consent, or even if it was overall a positive force in her life, the side effects have been pretty traumatic for her.
Not to mention the effect it had on her realitionship with her family.She was over 21 when she was committed, with a university degree and had been holding down a job as webmaster for a Teir 1 bank in Australia.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28710237</id>
	<title>suppose they'll have to resort to other methods</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1247661660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
In other news Hospital in Shandong  ceases shock treatments for Internet Addiction, due to ban,  starts performing full frontal <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Lobotomies</a> [wikipedia.org] instead, claims the procedure is 98\% effective at quashing internet addictions.
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<tokenext>In other news Hospital in Shandong ceases shock treatments for Internet Addiction , due to ban , starts performing full frontal Lobotomies [ wikipedia.org ] instead , claims the procedure is 98 \ % effective at quashing internet addictions .</tokentext>
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In other news Hospital in Shandong  ceases shock treatments for Internet Addiction, due to ban,  starts performing full frontal Lobotomies [wikipedia.org] instead, claims the procedure is 98\% effective at quashing internet addictions.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28706035</id>
	<title>Re:Definition of "internet addiction"</title>
	<author>Beerdood</author>
	<datestamp>1247684700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most likely.  On a similar note, it's interesting how in 50+ years of television, there is virtually no concept of television addiction (compare <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television\_addiction" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Television Addiction</a> [wikipedia.org] to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet\_addiction" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Internet Addiction</a> [wikipedia.org] on Wikipedia).  If kids are spending 30 hours a week watching corporate, main stream media there's no problem.  But if these kids spend that same amount of time not being bombarded by advertisements playing WoW, or if there's a chance they're reading "liberal propaganda" or un-godly sites, well that's an addiction.  Better send em in for treatment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most likely .
On a similar note , it 's interesting how in 50 + years of television , there is virtually no concept of television addiction ( compare Television Addiction [ wikipedia.org ] to Internet Addiction [ wikipedia.org ] on Wikipedia ) .
If kids are spending 30 hours a week watching corporate , main stream media there 's no problem .
But if these kids spend that same amount of time not being bombarded by advertisements playing WoW , or if there 's a chance they 're reading " liberal propaganda " or un-godly sites , well that 's an addiction .
Better send em in for treatment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most likely.
On a similar note, it's interesting how in 50+ years of television, there is virtually no concept of television addiction (compare Television Addiction [wikipedia.org] to Internet Addiction [wikipedia.org] on Wikipedia).
If kids are spending 30 hours a week watching corporate, main stream media there's no problem.
But if these kids spend that same amount of time not being bombarded by advertisements playing WoW, or if there's a chance they're reading "liberal propaganda" or un-godly sites, well that's an addiction.
Better send em in for treatment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28712047</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, I get it "sparked controversy"</title>
	<author>dudpixel</author>
	<datestamp>1247674440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>or that they went BACK ONTO THE INTERNET to post about it...did it even work?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>or that they went BACK ONTO THE INTERNET to post about it...did it even work ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or that they went BACK ONTO THE INTERNET to post about it...did it even work?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28711155</id>
	<title>What kind of person...</title>
	<author>Cur8or</author>
	<datestamp>1247667540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>goes straight back to blogging after 30 minutes of shock therapy for blogging too much? I would never touch my keyboard again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>goes straight back to blogging after 30 minutes of shock therapy for blogging too much ?
I would never touch my keyboard again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>goes straight back to blogging after 30 minutes of shock therapy for blogging too much?
I would never touch my keyboard again.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704491</id>
	<title>Only for internet addiction?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247678280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So is there a list of "illnesses" that they do still treat with electrical shocks or is it okay for pretty much everything except internet addiction?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So is there a list of " illnesses " that they do still treat with electrical shocks or is it okay for pretty much everything except internet addiction ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So is there a list of "illnesses" that they do still treat with electrical shocks or is it okay for pretty much everything except internet addiction?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28706029</id>
	<title>No alternative medicines ?</title>
	<author>bonedog73</author>
	<datestamp>1247684700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here I thought China was all about old school alternative medicines like acupuncture and the like. Electro shock treatments seem barbaric in my mind. No ancient chinese remedy for you internet addicts round here. We shock you!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here I thought China was all about old school alternative medicines like acupuncture and the like .
Electro shock treatments seem barbaric in my mind .
No ancient chinese remedy for you internet addicts round here .
We shock you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here I thought China was all about old school alternative medicines like acupuncture and the like.
Electro shock treatments seem barbaric in my mind.
No ancient chinese remedy for you internet addicts round here.
We shock you!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704663</id>
	<title>More like Ineffective</title>
	<author>TTURabble</author>
	<datestamp>1247679120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The hospital drew wide media coverage in recent months after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums</p></div><p>So the internet addicted patients used the internet to complain about the problems with the internet addiction treatment?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The hospital drew wide media coverage in recent months after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forumsSo the internet addicted patients used the internet to complain about the problems with the internet addiction treatment ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The hospital drew wide media coverage in recent months after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forumsSo the internet addicted patients used the internet to complain about the problems with the internet addiction treatment?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704579</id>
	<title>Reminds me of the scene from Ghostbusters....</title>
	<author>quangdog</author>
	<datestamp>1247678760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For those of you who have never seen this movie (am I really that old? ) this scene involved Bill Murray's character administering shock treatments as negative reinforcement when the test subject was unable to guess what was printed on the other side of a card he held up.
<br> <br>
He tests some poor schmoe who gets close to half of them right, but he gets shocked on every card anyway.
<br> <br>
Then he tests a potential future girlfriend and never shocks her at all, even though she misses every card.

<br> <br>
Shock therapy as a way to screen your dates.  Interesting concept.

<br> <br>Now get off my lawn!</htmltext>
<tokenext>For those of you who have never seen this movie ( am I really that old ?
) this scene involved Bill Murray 's character administering shock treatments as negative reinforcement when the test subject was unable to guess what was printed on the other side of a card he held up .
He tests some poor schmoe who gets close to half of them right , but he gets shocked on every card anyway .
Then he tests a potential future girlfriend and never shocks her at all , even though she misses every card .
Shock therapy as a way to screen your dates .
Interesting concept .
Now get off my lawn !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those of you who have never seen this movie (am I really that old?
) this scene involved Bill Murray's character administering shock treatments as negative reinforcement when the test subject was unable to guess what was printed on the other side of a card he held up.
He tests some poor schmoe who gets close to half of them right, but he gets shocked on every card anyway.
Then he tests a potential future girlfriend and never shocks her at all, even though she misses every card.
Shock therapy as a way to screen your dates.
Interesting concept.
Now get off my lawn!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704555</id>
	<title>Chinese "Nationwide Controversy?"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247678640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> its use at one hospital sparked nationwide controversy.</p></div></blockquote><p>Does China even <i>have</i> such a thing as "nationwide controvery"? Or is the "nation" here the United States? Or maybe Canada?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>its use at one hospital sparked nationwide controversy.Does China even have such a thing as " nationwide controvery " ?
Or is the " nation " here the United States ?
Or maybe Canada ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> its use at one hospital sparked nationwide controversy.Does China even have such a thing as "nationwide controvery"?
Or is the "nation" here the United States?
Or maybe Canada?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28710371</id>
	<title>Re:Damn it</title>
	<author>kimgkimg</author>
	<datestamp>1247662320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But firing squads and waterboarding are still okay...</htmltext>
<tokenext>But firing squads and waterboarding are still okay.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But firing squads and waterboarding are still okay...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28705525</id>
	<title>More Questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247682660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>This really raises the question: Is the internet a viable addiction? I think it's worthwhile to look at a person's patterns. How does your internet use mirror or not mirror that of an addict?</p><p>I have my doubts, but the question is worth asking and I'd like to hear your opinions.</p><p>I completely disagree with the electrocution, as it has been scientifically proven to do more harm than good to any mind, especially by just randomly jolting the brain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This really raises the question : Is the internet a viable addiction ?
I think it 's worthwhile to look at a person 's patterns .
How does your internet use mirror or not mirror that of an addict ? I have my doubts , but the question is worth asking and I 'd like to hear your opinions.I completely disagree with the electrocution , as it has been scientifically proven to do more harm than good to any mind , especially by just randomly jolting the brain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This really raises the question: Is the internet a viable addiction?
I think it's worthwhile to look at a person's patterns.
How does your internet use mirror or not mirror that of an addict?I have my doubts, but the question is worth asking and I'd like to hear your opinions.I completely disagree with the electrocution, as it has been scientifically proven to do more harm than good to any mind, especially by just randomly jolting the brain.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28708029</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me of the scene from Ghostbusters....</title>
	<author>ThrowAwaySociety</author>
	<datestamp>1247650860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But as for the guy, how is seemingly shocked for giving the right answers -- that's the whole experiment.  Vaikman even says so: "I'm studying the effects of negative reinforcement on ESP ability."  In other words, will you keep being psychic even if you get electrocuted for it.</p></div><p>Technically, he's studying the effect of </p><p>punishment on ESP ability. Punishment and negative reinforcement are two different things.</p><p>But anyway, I still look at it differently. I think the test of ESP is not "can you percieve what is on the card" but rather, "can you percieve that the experimentor is fucking with you?"</p><p>In which case, I'd posit that he passed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But as for the guy , how is seemingly shocked for giving the right answers -- that 's the whole experiment .
Vaikman even says so : " I 'm studying the effects of negative reinforcement on ESP ability .
" In other words , will you keep being psychic even if you get electrocuted for it.Technically , he 's studying the effect of punishment on ESP ability .
Punishment and negative reinforcement are two different things.But anyway , I still look at it differently .
I think the test of ESP is not " can you percieve what is on the card " but rather , " can you percieve that the experimentor is fucking with you ?
" In which case , I 'd posit that he passed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But as for the guy, how is seemingly shocked for giving the right answers -- that's the whole experiment.
Vaikman even says so: "I'm studying the effects of negative reinforcement on ESP ability.
"  In other words, will you keep being psychic even if you get electrocuted for it.Technically, he's studying the effect of punishment on ESP ability.
Punishment and negative reinforcement are two different things.But anyway, I still look at it differently.
I think the test of ESP is not "can you percieve what is on the card" but rather, "can you percieve that the experimentor is fucking with you?
"In which case, I'd posit that he passed.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28719315</id>
	<title>Still legel to Electro 6 year olds in the US</title>
	<author>corum3</author>
	<datestamp>1247768580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Too bad it is still legal to Electroshock 6 year olds, here in the US.

There is a lot of profit in it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad it is still legal to Electroshock 6 year olds , here in the US .
There is a lot of profit in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad it is still legal to Electroshock 6 year olds, here in the US.
There is a lot of profit in it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704829</id>
	<title>If they wanted REAL shock therapy</title>
	<author>The\_mad\_linguist</author>
	<datestamp>1247680080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why didn't they just randomly replace images requested by the "addict"'s computer with goatse?</p><p>That's a shock therapy that would actually work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why did n't they just randomly replace images requested by the " addict " 's computer with goatse ? That 's a shock therapy that would actually work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why didn't they just randomly replace images requested by the "addict"'s computer with goatse?That's a shock therapy that would actually work.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704701</id>
	<title>don't believe it</title>
	<author>sugarmotor</author>
	<datestamp>1247679360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't believe the story. Sounds too silly and arbitrary</p><p>Stephan</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't believe the story .
Sounds too silly and arbitraryStephan</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't believe the story.
Sounds too silly and arbitraryStephan</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28706081</id>
	<title>Re:Only for internet addiction?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247684940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might be surprised.  Shock therapy is still used in the US - I have a close family member for whom it was recommended and he volunteered.  Of course, I'm not sure that we'd apply it without the patient's permission.  But, although I'm not an expert (haven't even googled it since quite a few years ago when my family member was getting zapped), is somebody who volunteers for shock therapy necessarily qualified to make that decision for themselves?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might be surprised .
Shock therapy is still used in the US - I have a close family member for whom it was recommended and he volunteered .
Of course , I 'm not sure that we 'd apply it without the patient 's permission .
But , although I 'm not an expert ( have n't even googled it since quite a few years ago when my family member was getting zapped ) , is somebody who volunteers for shock therapy necessarily qualified to make that decision for themselves ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might be surprised.
Shock therapy is still used in the US - I have a close family member for whom it was recommended and he volunteered.
Of course, I'm not sure that we'd apply it without the patient's permission.
But, although I'm not an expert (haven't even googled it since quite a few years ago when my family member was getting zapped), is somebody who volunteers for shock therapy necessarily qualified to make that decision for themselves?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28708335</id>
	<title>Re:Only for internet addiction?</title>
	<author>kyliaar</author>
	<datestamp>1247652660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Many states have laws that allow police or other such officials to drop off someone showing signs of insanity to a psychiatric facility.  In California, this is referred to as a 5150 after the section of the penal code containing it.  They can make the assertation that this needs to be done off of second hand reports, not first hand observation.  Once the person is committed, he can be deemed to not be sane enough himself to make decisions regarding his own need for treatment and be subjected to electric shock therapy, psychotropic drugs, etc.  I have heard of family members getting people committed using these methods.  Of course, it is illegal to give false reports to spur a 5150 but who trusts a nut to report things accurately and who trusts a medical facility to not take a patient that will be paid for from state funds.</p><p>This is much more of an issue in other countries which it can be used as a way for the state to make dissidents disappear, such as Cold War Russia.</p><p>However, I can't look at the Homeland Security Act and shudder at how similar of an abuse that was for a state directed and controlled method for suspending someone's civil liberties with an accusation.</p><p>I am actually surprised that something like this came out of China.  Perhaps their populace is starting to question and speak out about their level of freedom.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many states have laws that allow police or other such officials to drop off someone showing signs of insanity to a psychiatric facility .
In California , this is referred to as a 5150 after the section of the penal code containing it .
They can make the assertation that this needs to be done off of second hand reports , not first hand observation .
Once the person is committed , he can be deemed to not be sane enough himself to make decisions regarding his own need for treatment and be subjected to electric shock therapy , psychotropic drugs , etc .
I have heard of family members getting people committed using these methods .
Of course , it is illegal to give false reports to spur a 5150 but who trusts a nut to report things accurately and who trusts a medical facility to not take a patient that will be paid for from state funds.This is much more of an issue in other countries which it can be used as a way for the state to make dissidents disappear , such as Cold War Russia.However , I ca n't look at the Homeland Security Act and shudder at how similar of an abuse that was for a state directed and controlled method for suspending someone 's civil liberties with an accusation.I am actually surprised that something like this came out of China .
Perhaps their populace is starting to question and speak out about their level of freedom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many states have laws that allow police or other such officials to drop off someone showing signs of insanity to a psychiatric facility.
In California, this is referred to as a 5150 after the section of the penal code containing it.
They can make the assertation that this needs to be done off of second hand reports, not first hand observation.
Once the person is committed, he can be deemed to not be sane enough himself to make decisions regarding his own need for treatment and be subjected to electric shock therapy, psychotropic drugs, etc.
I have heard of family members getting people committed using these methods.
Of course, it is illegal to give false reports to spur a 5150 but who trusts a nut to report things accurately and who trusts a medical facility to not take a patient that will be paid for from state funds.This is much more of an issue in other countries which it can be used as a way for the state to make dissidents disappear, such as Cold War Russia.However, I can't look at the Homeland Security Act and shudder at how similar of an abuse that was for a state directed and controlled method for suspending someone's civil liberties with an accusation.I am actually surprised that something like this came out of China.
Perhaps their populace is starting to question and speak out about their level of freedom.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28710921</id>
	<title>Re:Chinese "Nationwide Controversy?"</title>
	<author>xniteman</author>
	<datestamp>1247665800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, the entire thing is made up.
China is an extremely poor country and it only has one power generator, which is in Zhongnanhai and only used when foreign leaders come to visit.
No shock therapy is possible in China, the average Chinese have no idea what electricity is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , the entire thing is made up .
China is an extremely poor country and it only has one power generator , which is in Zhongnanhai and only used when foreign leaders come to visit .
No shock therapy is possible in China , the average Chinese have no idea what electricity is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, the entire thing is made up.
China is an extremely poor country and it only has one power generator, which is in Zhongnanhai and only used when foreign leaders come to visit.
No shock therapy is possible in China, the average Chinese have no idea what electricity is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704563</id>
	<title>pic</title>
	<author>Canazza</author>
	<datestamp>1247678700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Honestly, this seems like another human rights abuse... people should have the right to choose if they want to go through shock therapy!</p><p>but did we really require the big pic there?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly , this seems like another human rights abuse... people should have the right to choose if they want to go through shock therapy ! but did we really require the big pic there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, this seems like another human rights abuse... people should have the right to choose if they want to go through shock therapy!but did we really require the big pic there?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28706077</id>
	<title>Not unexpected...</title>
	<author>autoevolution</author>
	<datestamp>1247684940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since the once child per family policy I'd imagine that children are pressured a lot to be successful in their studies, and is important enough for parents to shock their kids out of Wow so they can study more.  I think this is a sign of changing times in china to a more modern social landscape, where internet use is widespread.  The parents in China who send their kids to get shock treatments in this article probably never had access to internet or computers in their teens so they don't understand why their kids are spending a lot of time on computers.  I think this is more of a clash between the old and the new, the "internet-addicted" children representing western social landscape and the anti-internet-addiction side representing the older generations which were stricter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the once child per family policy I 'd imagine that children are pressured a lot to be successful in their studies , and is important enough for parents to shock their kids out of Wow so they can study more .
I think this is a sign of changing times in china to a more modern social landscape , where internet use is widespread .
The parents in China who send their kids to get shock treatments in this article probably never had access to internet or computers in their teens so they do n't understand why their kids are spending a lot of time on computers .
I think this is more of a clash between the old and the new , the " internet-addicted " children representing western social landscape and the anti-internet-addiction side representing the older generations which were stricter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the once child per family policy I'd imagine that children are pressured a lot to be successful in their studies, and is important enough for parents to shock their kids out of Wow so they can study more.
I think this is a sign of changing times in china to a more modern social landscape, where internet use is widespread.
The parents in China who send their kids to get shock treatments in this article probably never had access to internet or computers in their teens so they don't understand why their kids are spending a lot of time on computers.
I think this is more of a clash between the old and the new, the "internet-addicted" children representing western social landscape and the anti-internet-addiction side representing the older generations which were stricter.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704657</id>
	<title>Before anyone asks about Western shock therapy...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247679120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) is used in psychiatric settings here in the West, patients are completely unconscious and pumped full of muscle relaxants to keep them from jumping all over the table. Since they're unconscious, they feel no pain.. completely different from what the Chinese seem to be doing, which seeks to use electric shock as painful punishment for too much WOW.<br>Needless to say, I didn't RTFA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When electroconvulsive therapy ( ECT ) is used in psychiatric settings here in the West , patients are completely unconscious and pumped full of muscle relaxants to keep them from jumping all over the table .
Since they 're unconscious , they feel no pain.. completely different from what the Chinese seem to be doing , which seeks to use electric shock as painful punishment for too much WOW.Needless to say , I did n't RTFA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) is used in psychiatric settings here in the West, patients are completely unconscious and pumped full of muscle relaxants to keep them from jumping all over the table.
Since they're unconscious, they feel no pain.. completely different from what the Chinese seem to be doing, which seeks to use electric shock as painful punishment for too much WOW.Needless to say, I didn't RTFA.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704693</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me of the scene from Ghostbusters....</title>
	<author>Utini420</author>
	<datestamp>1247679360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone brings up that scene as if Vaikman was messing up his experiment just to flirt with the chick, but that ignores his true brilliance.  Sure, he fudges the test for her -- she clearly is not psychic, she's just there as a control, so it really doesn't matter if she ever gets shocked or not.  It isn't like he's testing electrocution of normal folks.  But as for the guy, how is seemingly shocked for giving the right answers -- that's the whole experiment.  Vaikman even says so: "I'm studying the effects of negative reinforcement on ESP ability."  In other words, will you keep being psychic even if you get electrocuted for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone brings up that scene as if Vaikman was messing up his experiment just to flirt with the chick , but that ignores his true brilliance .
Sure , he fudges the test for her -- she clearly is not psychic , she 's just there as a control , so it really does n't matter if she ever gets shocked or not .
It is n't like he 's testing electrocution of normal folks .
But as for the guy , how is seemingly shocked for giving the right answers -- that 's the whole experiment .
Vaikman even says so : " I 'm studying the effects of negative reinforcement on ESP ability .
" In other words , will you keep being psychic even if you get electrocuted for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone brings up that scene as if Vaikman was messing up his experiment just to flirt with the chick, but that ignores his true brilliance.
Sure, he fudges the test for her -- she clearly is not psychic, she's just there as a control, so it really doesn't matter if she ever gets shocked or not.
It isn't like he's testing electrocution of normal folks.
But as for the guy, how is seemingly shocked for giving the right answers -- that's the whole experiment.
Vaikman even says so: "I'm studying the effects of negative reinforcement on ESP ability.
"  In other words, will you keep being psychic even if you get electrocuted for it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704579</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28719963</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, I get it "sparked controversy"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247770920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This therapy obviously didn't work as the victims apparently wrote about their ordeal: *on the internet*. Electrofail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This therapy obviously did n't work as the victims apparently wrote about their ordeal : * on the internet * .
Electrofail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This therapy obviously didn't work as the victims apparently wrote about their ordeal: *on the internet*.
Electrofail.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704581</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28705995</id>
	<title>Re:Before anyone asks about Western shock therapy.</title>
	<author>Psyborgue</author>
	<datestamp>1247684460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This isn't ECT.  This appears to be aversion therapy.  Just because it's done wrong and the shocking last long doesn't make it any different.  The same has happened at <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/08/school-shock" title="motherjones.com">Judge Rotenberg Center</a> [motherjones.com] in the United States where a slightly more brutal form is used (kids permanently strapped to devices triggered by remote control).</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't ECT .
This appears to be aversion therapy .
Just because it 's done wrong and the shocking last long does n't make it any different .
The same has happened at Judge Rotenberg Center [ motherjones.com ] in the United States where a slightly more brutal form is used ( kids permanently strapped to devices triggered by remote control ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't ECT.
This appears to be aversion therapy.
Just because it's done wrong and the shocking last long doesn't make it any different.
The same has happened at Judge Rotenberg Center [motherjones.com] in the United States where a slightly more brutal form is used (kids permanently strapped to devices triggered by remote control).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704657</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28706021</id>
	<title>The truth is...</title>
	<author>Sponters</author>
	<datestamp>1247684640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... the therapy was banned because it didn't work, as after 30 minutes of shock, the pacients ran to write about it in INTERNET forums and blogs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... the therapy was banned because it did n't work , as after 30 minutes of shock , the pacients ran to write about it in INTERNET forums and blogs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... the therapy was banned because it didn't work, as after 30 minutes of shock, the pacients ran to write about it in INTERNET forums and blogs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28706431</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me of the scene from Ghostbusters....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247686740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>thats not how negative reinforcment works... so im sorry, but your thinking is wrong...</p><p>negative reinforcement is REMOVING a stimuli every time, until the desired result is achieved..</p><p>positive reinforcement, you are aadding a stimuli (elctro shock), until the desired result is achieved...</p><p>so by the proper definition.. he was testing positive reinforcement on the guy, and negative reinforcement on the girl...</p><p>since he was ADDING stimuli for him, and denying her of it..</p><p>the words positive, and negative in this context have nothing to do with GOOD and BAD...</p><p>read a book before you post next time</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>thats not how negative reinforcment works... so im sorry , but your thinking is wrong...negative reinforcement is REMOVING a stimuli every time , until the desired result is achieved..positive reinforcement , you are aadding a stimuli ( elctro shock ) , until the desired result is achieved...so by the proper definition.. he was testing positive reinforcement on the guy , and negative reinforcement on the girl...since he was ADDING stimuli for him , and denying her of it..the words positive , and negative in this context have nothing to do with GOOD and BAD...read a book before you post next time</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thats not how negative reinforcment works... so im sorry, but your thinking is wrong...negative reinforcement is REMOVING a stimuli every time, until the desired result is achieved..positive reinforcement, you are aadding a stimuli (elctro shock), until the desired result is achieved...so by the proper definition.. he was testing positive reinforcement on the guy, and negative reinforcement on the girl...since he was ADDING stimuli for him, and denying her of it..the words positive, and negative in this context have nothing to do with GOOD and BAD...read a book before you post next time</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704693</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28719611</id>
	<title>Not very effective...</title>
	<author>ImprovOmega</author>
	<datestamp>1247769540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums</p></div></blockquote><p>Doesn't seem to have been an effective treatment then, does it =P</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forumsDoes n't seem to have been an effective treatment then , does it = P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forumsDoesn't seem to have been an effective treatment then, does it =P
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704713</id>
	<title>To rephrase Spinaltap...</title>
	<author>snspdaarf</author>
	<datestamp>1247679480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...Ours go to 11 amps.
<br> <br>
This seems like a great way to create psychological maladjustment.
<br> <br>
Presuming, of course, you do not already consider "internet addiction" to be maladjustment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...Ours go to 11 amps .
This seems like a great way to create psychological maladjustment .
Presuming , of course , you do not already consider " internet addiction " to be maladjustment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Ours go to 11 amps.
This seems like a great way to create psychological maladjustment.
Presuming, of course, you do not already consider "internet addiction" to be maladjustment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28705345</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, I get it "sparked controversy"</title>
	<author>NotBornYesterday</author>
	<datestamp>1247682000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Those bastards.  Now how the hell am I supposed support my electroshock addiction?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Those bastards .
Now how the hell am I supposed support my electroshock addiction ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those bastards.
Now how the hell am I supposed support my electroshock addiction?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704581</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28705353</id>
	<title>Re:More like Ineffective</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247682000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You beat me to saying this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You beat me to saying this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You beat me to saying this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704795</id>
	<title>Definition of "internet addiction"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247679840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if the symptoms of "internet addiction" the authorities look for include 'seeking inaccurate information' from 'undesirable sites' or possibly 'spreading rumours' or 'inciting unrest'?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if the symptoms of " internet addiction " the authorities look for include 'seeking inaccurate information ' from 'undesirable sites ' or possibly 'spreading rumours ' or 'inciting unrest ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if the symptoms of "internet addiction" the authorities look for include 'seeking inaccurate information' from 'undesirable sites' or possibly 'spreading rumours' or 'inciting unrest'?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704539</id>
	<title>Re:Damn it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247678520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's probably because you have never had sex before.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's probably because you have never had sex before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's probably because you have never had sex before.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704485</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28706385</id>
	<title>Re:More like Ineffective</title>
	<author>iron-kurton</author>
	<datestamp>1247686560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The treatment is *clearly* not effective.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The treatment is * clearly * not effective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The treatment is *clearly* not effective.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704691</id>
	<title>Quacks</title>
	<author>Demonantis</author>
	<datestamp>1247679360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>That is not shock treatment. The currently accepted method of shock therapy is designed to treat epilepsy. They were using it for negative reinforcement. Its just as effective as torturing someone. This is definitely a human rights violation and the genius behind this should be punished.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is not shock treatment .
The currently accepted method of shock therapy is designed to treat epilepsy .
They were using it for negative reinforcement .
Its just as effective as torturing someone .
This is definitely a human rights violation and the genius behind this should be punished .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is not shock treatment.
The currently accepted method of shock therapy is designed to treat epilepsy.
They were using it for negative reinforcement.
Its just as effective as torturing someone.
This is definitely a human rights violation and the genius behind this should be punished.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28705895</id>
	<title>Shocked!</title>
	<author>Psyborgue</author>
	<datestamp>1247684100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment <b>wrote in blogs and forums</b> about being tied down and subjected to shocks for 30 minutes at a time</p></div><p>Wow.  There's a shock.  Not only was it unethical; it was also ineffective.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums about being tied down and subjected to shocks for 30 minutes at a timeWow .
There 's a shock .
Not only was it unethical ; it was also ineffective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums about being tied down and subjected to shocks for 30 minutes at a timeWow.
There's a shock.
Not only was it unethical; it was also ineffective.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704721</id>
	<title>Why is this posted under games?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247679480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Chinese dude in the picture sure isn't enjoying the game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Chinese dude in the picture sure is n't enjoying the game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Chinese dude in the picture sure isn't enjoying the game.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704645</id>
	<title>Re:Chinese "Nationwide Controversy?"</title>
	<author>maeka</author>
	<datestamp>1247679000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Does China even have such a thing as "nationwide controvery"? Or is the "nation" here the United States? Or maybe Canada?</p></div></blockquote><p>I'll chalk this one up to western ignorance over how much the Chinese public actually knows, not blatant bias.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008\_Chinese\_milk\_scandal#Chinese\_public" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008\_Chinese\_milk\_scandal#Chinese\_public</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does China even have such a thing as " nationwide controvery " ?
Or is the " nation " here the United States ?
Or maybe Canada ? I 'll chalk this one up to western ignorance over how much the Chinese public actually knows , not blatant bias.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008 \ _Chinese \ _milk \ _scandal # Chinese \ _public [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does China even have such a thing as "nationwide controvery"?
Or is the "nation" here the United States?
Or maybe Canada?I'll chalk this one up to western ignorance over how much the Chinese public actually knows, not blatant bias.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008\_Chinese\_milk\_scandal#Chinese\_public [wikipedia.org]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704555</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28705615</id>
	<title>Re:pic</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1247682960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>people should have the right to choose if they want to go through shock therapy!</i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yes, just like you get to choose the duration of your sentence, your cell mate, and the color of your cell when you commit a crime in your country.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/sarcasm</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I'm not defending China for this (they themselves seem to be upset at the practice), but laws are different everywhere and if you commit a "crime", you have to pay the price, be it getting your ass caned, shocked or in the case of the US, raped.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>people should have the right to choose if they want to go through shock therapy !
      Yes , just like you get to choose the duration of your sentence , your cell mate , and the color of your cell when you commit a crime in your country .
/sarcasm       I 'm not defending China for this ( they themselves seem to be upset at the practice ) , but laws are different everywhere and if you commit a " crime " , you have to pay the price , be it getting your ass caned , shocked or in the case of the US , raped .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>people should have the right to choose if they want to go through shock therapy!
      Yes, just like you get to choose the duration of your sentence, your cell mate, and the color of your cell when you commit a crime in your country.
/sarcasm
      I'm not defending China for this (they themselves seem to be upset at the practice), but laws are different everywhere and if you commit a "crime", you have to pay the price, be it getting your ass caned, shocked or in the case of the US, raped.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704563</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28711751</id>
	<title>Re:pic</title>
	<author>MrCrassic</author>
	<datestamp>1247671980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is quite informative! Thanks, Mr. Cowardon<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is quite informative !
Thanks , Mr. Cowardon : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is quite informative!
Thanks, Mr. Cowardon :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28706495</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28706495</id>
	<title>Re:pic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247687100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This kind of reminds me of an article I read some time ago in the Wall Street Journal regarding how mental illness is treated in China. Parents that can't afford healthcare for their mentally-ill children lock them up in cages, while some that can have been duped to going to hospitals for treatment, only to scar (or nearly kill) their children even further and be completely, shit-out-of-luck broke. One of these operations involved <em>removing parts of the patient's brain outright.</em>
<br> <br>
I wish I could find these articles; they were great reads (though a bit sensational).</htmltext>
<tokenext>This kind of reminds me of an article I read some time ago in the Wall Street Journal regarding how mental illness is treated in China .
Parents that ca n't afford healthcare for their mentally-ill children lock them up in cages , while some that can have been duped to going to hospitals for treatment , only to scar ( or nearly kill ) their children even further and be completely , shit-out-of-luck broke .
One of these operations involved removing parts of the patient 's brain outright .
I wish I could find these articles ; they were great reads ( though a bit sensational ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This kind of reminds me of an article I read some time ago in the Wall Street Journal regarding how mental illness is treated in China.
Parents that can't afford healthcare for their mentally-ill children lock them up in cages, while some that can have been duped to going to hospitals for treatment, only to scar (or nearly kill) their children even further and be completely, shit-out-of-luck broke.
One of these operations involved removing parts of the patient's brain outright.
I wish I could find these articles; they were great reads (though a bit sensational).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28707017</id>
	<title>Obviously it didn't work</title>
	<author>z80kid</author>
	<datestamp>1247689260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums about being tied down and subjected to shocks for 30 minutes at a time."</p></div><p>
They received electric shocks for Internet addiction, and then rushed right out to blog about it?</p><p>
I'd say that's a pretty good indication that their condition is hopeless.....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums about being tied down and subjected to shocks for 30 minutes at a time .
" They received electric shocks for Internet addiction , and then rushed right out to blog about it ?
I 'd say that 's a pretty good indication that their condition is hopeless.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...after Internet users claiming to have received the treatment wrote in blogs and forums about being tied down and subjected to shocks for 30 minutes at a time.
"
They received electric shocks for Internet addiction, and then rushed right out to blog about it?
I'd say that's a pretty good indication that their condition is hopeless.....
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28705797</id>
	<title>Re:Quacks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247683680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, electroshock therapy is used to treat mental illnesses such as depression and schizophrenia.  It is not used to treat epilepsy.  The purpose of the treatment is, in fact, to induce a seizure, not to prevent seizures.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , electroshock therapy is used to treat mental illnesses such as depression and schizophrenia .
It is not used to treat epilepsy .
The purpose of the treatment is , in fact , to induce a seizure , not to prevent seizures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, electroshock therapy is used to treat mental illnesses such as depression and schizophrenia.
It is not used to treat epilepsy.
The purpose of the treatment is, in fact, to induce a seizure, not to prevent seizures.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28708795</id>
	<title>Re:More like Ineffective</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247654760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Should have shocked them by showing the <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">shocker</a> [goatse.fr]. Much more effective, 9 out of 10 ex-internet addicts recommend it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should have shocked them by showing the shocker [ goatse.fr ] .
Much more effective , 9 out of 10 ex-internet addicts recommend it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should have shocked them by showing the shocker [goatse.fr].
Much more effective, 9 out of 10 ex-internet addicts recommend it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28705857</id>
	<title>Alternative treatments</title>
	<author>Beerdood</author>
	<datestamp>1247683920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now that this is banned, where will those parents send those kids to treat this "disorder"?  How long before Pfizer creates Zinternex - a new drug used to help combat internet addiction? (Side effects may include nausea, vomiting, anal leakage, acne, etc... etc...)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now that this is banned , where will those parents send those kids to treat this " disorder " ?
How long before Pfizer creates Zinternex - a new drug used to help combat internet addiction ?
( Side effects may include nausea , vomiting , anal leakage , acne , etc... etc... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now that this is banned, where will those parents send those kids to treat this "disorder"?
How long before Pfizer creates Zinternex - a new drug used to help combat internet addiction?
(Side effects may include nausea, vomiting, anal leakage, acne, etc... etc...)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704485</id>
	<title>Damn it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247678280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nothing gave me more pleasure that thinking of WOW power levelers with electrodes attached to various body parts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing gave me more pleasure that thinking of WOW power levelers with electrodes attached to various body parts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing gave me more pleasure that thinking of WOW power levelers with electrodes attached to various body parts.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28708585</id>
	<title>Banned only in some cases?</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1247653800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>World of Warcraft addiction is now no longer treated with shock therapy. More severe cases of internet abuse, such as an addiction to writing overly uppity blog entries, on the other hand...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>World of Warcraft addiction is now no longer treated with shock therapy .
More severe cases of internet abuse , such as an addiction to writing overly uppity blog entries , on the other hand.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>World of Warcraft addiction is now no longer treated with shock therapy.
More severe cases of internet abuse, such as an addiction to writing overly uppity blog entries, on the other hand...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28731967</id>
	<title>Get the Facts about ECT</title>
	<author>DeadAgentSTL</author>
	<datestamp>1247854500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Surveys of legislators and health insurance industry personnel in the United States reveal an appalling level of misinformation about electroshock. Deceived by psychiatry's propaganda machine, the majority are content to leave it up to the "experts." While openly admitting that they have no idea how Electro-Convulsive Therapy (ECT) works, psychiatrists have no trouble in arrogantly assuming the mantle of "expert."

But who are the real victims and what is the real cost? With the hundreds of thousands of people being subjected to electroshock around the world each year, this is a story of ruined lives. Today, the psychiatric industry in the United States alone takes an estimated $5 billion from ECT per year. In spite of its sophisticated trappings of science, the brutality of ECT verifies that psychiatry has not advanced beyond the cruelty and barbarism of its earliest treatments.

Physically intrusive practices such as ECT violate the doctor's pledge to uphold the Hippocratic Oath and "Do no harm." ECT should be labeled for what it is - torture - and it should be banned worldwide.

Get the facts by reading the CCHR publication The Brutal Reality: Harmful Psychiatric 'Treatments' - Report and recommendations on the destructive practices of electroshock and psychosurgery. (http://www.cchrstl.org/documents/ect.pdf)

Once armed with the facts, we are confident you will form part of the rapidly growing voice of protest that will be the final demise of this cruel and inhuman practice. Write your state and federal legislators and tell them to ban electric shock.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surveys of legislators and health insurance industry personnel in the United States reveal an appalling level of misinformation about electroshock .
Deceived by psychiatry 's propaganda machine , the majority are content to leave it up to the " experts .
" While openly admitting that they have no idea how Electro-Convulsive Therapy ( ECT ) works , psychiatrists have no trouble in arrogantly assuming the mantle of " expert .
" But who are the real victims and what is the real cost ?
With the hundreds of thousands of people being subjected to electroshock around the world each year , this is a story of ruined lives .
Today , the psychiatric industry in the United States alone takes an estimated $ 5 billion from ECT per year .
In spite of its sophisticated trappings of science , the brutality of ECT verifies that psychiatry has not advanced beyond the cruelty and barbarism of its earliest treatments .
Physically intrusive practices such as ECT violate the doctor 's pledge to uphold the Hippocratic Oath and " Do no harm .
" ECT should be labeled for what it is - torture - and it should be banned worldwide .
Get the facts by reading the CCHR publication The Brutal Reality : Harmful Psychiatric 'Treatments ' - Report and recommendations on the destructive practices of electroshock and psychosurgery .
( http : //www.cchrstl.org/documents/ect.pdf ) Once armed with the facts , we are confident you will form part of the rapidly growing voice of protest that will be the final demise of this cruel and inhuman practice .
Write your state and federal legislators and tell them to ban electric shock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surveys of legislators and health insurance industry personnel in the United States reveal an appalling level of misinformation about electroshock.
Deceived by psychiatry's propaganda machine, the majority are content to leave it up to the "experts.
" While openly admitting that they have no idea how Electro-Convulsive Therapy (ECT) works, psychiatrists have no trouble in arrogantly assuming the mantle of "expert.
"

But who are the real victims and what is the real cost?
With the hundreds of thousands of people being subjected to electroshock around the world each year, this is a story of ruined lives.
Today, the psychiatric industry in the United States alone takes an estimated $5 billion from ECT per year.
In spite of its sophisticated trappings of science, the brutality of ECT verifies that psychiatry has not advanced beyond the cruelty and barbarism of its earliest treatments.
Physically intrusive practices such as ECT violate the doctor's pledge to uphold the Hippocratic Oath and "Do no harm.
" ECT should be labeled for what it is - torture - and it should be banned worldwide.
Get the facts by reading the CCHR publication The Brutal Reality: Harmful Psychiatric 'Treatments' - Report and recommendations on the destructive practices of electroshock and psychosurgery.
(http://www.cchrstl.org/documents/ect.pdf)

Once armed with the facts, we are confident you will form part of the rapidly growing voice of protest that will be the final demise of this cruel and inhuman practice.
Write your state and federal legislators and tell them to ban electric shock.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704937</id>
	<title>Re:Quacks</title>
	<author>Hyppy</author>
	<datestamp>1247680560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>According to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive\_therapy" title="wikipedia.org">Wikipedia</a> [wikipedia.org], it is also used for various psychological disorders, including depression and schizophrenia.</htmltext>
<tokenext>According to Wikipedia [ wikipedia.org ] , it is also used for various psychological disorders , including depression and schizophrenia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org], it is also used for various psychological disorders, including depression and schizophrenia.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704887</id>
	<title>A Clockwork Orange</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247680320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Next stop, Beethoven's Ode to Joy...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Next stop , Beethoven 's Ode to Joy.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next stop, Beethoven's Ode to Joy...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28705019</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me of the scene from Ghostbusters....</title>
	<author>damontal</author>
	<datestamp>1247680800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just watched it again and they're both getting the answers wrong. only the girl isn't being shocked, whereas the guy is.

the only one he gets correct is the last one (a couple of squiggly lines) before freaking out and leaving.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just watched it again and they 're both getting the answers wrong .
only the girl is n't being shocked , whereas the guy is .
the only one he gets correct is the last one ( a couple of squiggly lines ) before freaking out and leaving .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just watched it again and they're both getting the answers wrong.
only the girl isn't being shocked, whereas the guy is.
the only one he gets correct is the last one (a couple of squiggly lines) before freaking out and leaving.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28705515</id>
	<title>What really happened...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247682600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some random "professor" (name omitted) started advertising a way to treat Internet addiction by electrically shocking his subjects.<br>More ridiculously, there were actually quite a handful of parents who paid thousands of dollars sending their kids to his "addiction camp".<br>Several months later, the government finally took action, and rumor had it that the guy didn't pay the communist party well enough.</p><p>There is no such thing as Internet addiction, but only the stupidity of Chinese parents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some random " professor " ( name omitted ) started advertising a way to treat Internet addiction by electrically shocking his subjects.More ridiculously , there were actually quite a handful of parents who paid thousands of dollars sending their kids to his " addiction camp " .Several months later , the government finally took action , and rumor had it that the guy did n't pay the communist party well enough.There is no such thing as Internet addiction , but only the stupidity of Chinese parents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some random "professor" (name omitted) started advertising a way to treat Internet addiction by electrically shocking his subjects.More ridiculously, there were actually quite a handful of parents who paid thousands of dollars sending their kids to his "addiction camp".Several months later, the government finally took action, and rumor had it that the guy didn't pay the communist party well enough.There is no such thing as Internet addiction, but only the stupidity of Chinese parents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704581</id>
	<title>Oh, I get it "sparked controversy"</title>
	<author>dmomo</author>
	<datestamp>1247678820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In other news... "Internet addicts treated with electricity".  The real story here is that this is there to be banned in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In other news... " Internet addicts treated with electricity " .
The real story here is that this is there to be banned in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other news... "Internet addicts treated with electricity".
The real story here is that this is there to be banned in the first place.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704559</id>
	<title>Doesn't hurt them?</title>
	<author>Aladrin</author>
	<datestamp>1247678640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Some Chinese medical experts still believe shock treatment for Internet addiction does not harm children, but the majority disavow it, said Tao Ran, the founder of a Beijing treatment center Web-addicted teens, during a recent interview."</p><p>Sure, as long as you're only worried about their physical health, I'm sure it doesn't...  Too bad it scars them for life mentally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Some Chinese medical experts still believe shock treatment for Internet addiction does not harm children , but the majority disavow it , said Tao Ran , the founder of a Beijing treatment center Web-addicted teens , during a recent interview .
" Sure , as long as you 're only worried about their physical health , I 'm sure it does n't... Too bad it scars them for life mentally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Some Chinese medical experts still believe shock treatment for Internet addiction does not harm children, but the majority disavow it, said Tao Ran, the founder of a Beijing treatment center Web-addicted teens, during a recent interview.
"Sure, as long as you're only worried about their physical health, I'm sure it doesn't...  Too bad it scars them for life mentally.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_1554234.28704617</id>
	<title>suspicious</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247678940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is this to cure internet addiction or a reason to punish those that bypassed chinas censorship... hmmmm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this to cure internet addiction or a reason to punish those that bypassed chinas censorship... hmmmm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this to cure internet addiction or a reason to punish those that bypassed chinas censorship... hmmmm</sentencetext>
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