<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_14_1715252</id>
	<title>UK, Not North Korea, Is Source of DDoS Attacks</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1247595360000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/" rel="nofollow">angry tapir</a> writes <i>"The UK was the likely source of a series of attacks last week that <a href="//it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/07/10/0452256&amp;tid=76">took down popular Web sites</a> in the US and South Korea, according to an <a href="http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/311070/uk\_north\_korea\_source\_ddos\_attacks\_researcher\_says">analysis performed by a Vietnamese computer security researcher</a>. The results contradict assertions made by some in the US and South Korean governments that North Korea was behind the attack. Security analysts had been skeptical of the claims, which were reportedly made in off-the-record briefings and for which proof was never delivered."</i> The Vietnamese security site's blog is linked from the article, but it is very slow even before Slashdotting. The researchers observed 166,908 zombies participating in the attacks &mdash; a number far larger than most earlier estimates. <br> <b>Update: 07/14 21:24 GMT</b> by <b> <a href="http://slashdot.org/~kdawson/">KD</a> </b>: Wired is reporting that the UK owner of the IP address in question is pointing a finger at a <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/07/brits-attack-us/">server in Florida</a>, which it says opened a VPN to the UK machine for the attacks. Once again, the attacker could be anywhere.</htmltext>
<tokenext>angry tapir writes " The UK was the likely source of a series of attacks last week that took down popular Web sites in the US and South Korea , according to an analysis performed by a Vietnamese computer security researcher .
The results contradict assertions made by some in the US and South Korean governments that North Korea was behind the attack .
Security analysts had been skeptical of the claims , which were reportedly made in off-the-record briefings and for which proof was never delivered .
" The Vietnamese security site 's blog is linked from the article , but it is very slow even before Slashdotting .
The researchers observed 166,908 zombies participating in the attacks    a number far larger than most earlier estimates .
Update : 07/14 21 : 24 GMT by KD : Wired is reporting that the UK owner of the IP address in question is pointing a finger at a server in Florida , which it says opened a VPN to the UK machine for the attacks .
Once again , the attacker could be anywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>angry tapir writes "The UK was the likely source of a series of attacks last week that took down popular Web sites in the US and South Korea, according to an analysis performed by a Vietnamese computer security researcher.
The results contradict assertions made by some in the US and South Korean governments that North Korea was behind the attack.
Security analysts had been skeptical of the claims, which were reportedly made in off-the-record briefings and for which proof was never delivered.
" The Vietnamese security site's blog is linked from the article, but it is very slow even before Slashdotting.
The researchers observed 166,908 zombies participating in the attacks — a number far larger than most earlier estimates.
Update: 07/14 21:24 GMT by  KD : Wired is reporting that the UK owner of the IP address in question is pointing a finger at a server in Florida, which it says opened a VPN to the UK machine for the attacks.
Once again, the attacker could be anywhere.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694623</id>
	<title>Commies.</title>
	<author>blackraven14250</author>
	<datestamp>1247601540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think we should trust the communists who defend the dictator of an authoritarian "communist" country. That absolutely makes the most sense.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think we should trust the communists who defend the dictator of an authoritarian " communist " country .
That absolutely makes the most sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think we should trust the communists who defend the dictator of an authoritarian "communist" country.
That absolutely makes the most sense.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694631</id>
	<title>Re:If true</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247601540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>" true, this is kind of like the time the US accused North Korea of creating really authentic-looking counterfeit 100 dollar bills, and then it turned out that they are probably coming from within the US - possibly from the CIA to fund covert operations"</p><p>It turned out they were "probably" - doesn't that mean that this is conjecture and thus it didn't turn out that way?</p><p>"possibly" from the CIA to fund covert operations -  It turns out they were probably<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... possibly?</p><p>I think  you've been watching too many TV commercials.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" true , this is kind of like the time the US accused North Korea of creating really authentic-looking counterfeit 100 dollar bills , and then it turned out that they are probably coming from within the US - possibly from the CIA to fund covert operations " It turned out they were " probably " - does n't that mean that this is conjecture and thus it did n't turn out that way ?
" possibly " from the CIA to fund covert operations - It turns out they were probably ... possibly ? I think you 've been watching too many TV commercials .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>" true, this is kind of like the time the US accused North Korea of creating really authentic-looking counterfeit 100 dollar bills, and then it turned out that they are probably coming from within the US - possibly from the CIA to fund covert operations"It turned out they were "probably" - doesn't that mean that this is conjecture and thus it didn't turn out that way?
"possibly" from the CIA to fund covert operations -  It turns out they were probably ... possibly?I think  you've been watching too many TV commercials.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695593</id>
	<title>Re:Where != Who</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1247563140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course, most people are clueless, so a clue does them no good.  The entire attack could have been coordinated by some pimple faced kid in downtown Wichita, Ks.</p><p>"YO, Dawg!!  Look what I can do with all those scripts you told me were just STOOOPED SHITZ!!  I R H4X0rZ 133Tz!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , most people are clueless , so a clue does them no good .
The entire attack could have been coordinated by some pimple faced kid in downtown Wichita , Ks .
" YO , Dawg ! !
Look what I can do with all those scripts you told me were just STOOOPED SHITZ ! !
I R H4X0rZ 133Tz !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, most people are clueless, so a clue does them no good.
The entire attack could have been coordinated by some pimple faced kid in downtown Wichita, Ks.
"YO, Dawg!!
Look what I can do with all those scripts you told me were just STOOOPED SHITZ!!
I R H4X0rZ 133Tz!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694717</id>
	<title>Re:If true</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247602080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If true, this is kind of like the time the US accused North Korea of creating really authentic-looking counterfeit 100 dollar bills, and then it turned out that they are probably coming from within the US - possibly from the CIA to fund covert operations.</p></div><p>[citation needed]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If true , this is kind of like the time the US accused North Korea of creating really authentic-looking counterfeit 100 dollar bills , and then it turned out that they are probably coming from within the US - possibly from the CIA to fund covert operations .
[ citation needed ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If true, this is kind of like the time the US accused North Korea of creating really authentic-looking counterfeit 100 dollar bills, and then it turned out that they are probably coming from within the US - possibly from the CIA to fund covert operations.
[citation needed]
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28696365</id>
	<title>Re:UK Terror Attack</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1247566020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As previously Beetles America invasion failed, they now are trying with Zombies. Whats next? Vampires? Werewolves?</p></div><p>A London Werewolf in America?  King Arthur's Court in a Connecticut Yankee?  Your peanut butter in my chocolate?  These sound like things better left in Soviet Russia!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As previously Beetles America invasion failed , they now are trying with Zombies .
Whats next ?
Vampires ? Werewolves ? A London Werewolf in America ?
King Arthur 's Court in a Connecticut Yankee ?
Your peanut butter in my chocolate ?
These sound like things better left in Soviet Russia !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As previously Beetles America invasion failed, they now are trying with Zombies.
Whats next?
Vampires? Werewolves?A London Werewolf in America?
King Arthur's Court in a Connecticut Yankee?
Your peanut butter in my chocolate?
These sound like things better left in Soviet Russia!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694799</id>
	<title>Re:Oh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247602440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Slashdot mentality always seems to be that any contradicting reports beat the initial report.</p></div><p>No it doesn't.</p><p>(waits for the +5 insightful mod)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot mentality always seems to be that any contradicting reports beat the initial report.No it does n't .
( waits for the + 5 insightful mod )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot mentality always seems to be that any contradicting reports beat the initial report.No it doesn't.
(waits for the +5 insightful mod)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694129</id>
	<title>Cyberattacks against out freedom&#226;&#166;</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247599260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just downloaded <a href="http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/eula\_dev.html?dl=mac" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">Google Chrome</a> [google.com] 3.0.192.0 for <a href="http://www.apple.com/mac/" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">Mac</a> [apple.com] and it crashed before I could even open a page. There is no excuse for this; my <a href="http://support.apple.com/kb/SP506" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">Mac Pro</a> [apple.com] is perfect in every way with eight <a href="http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/prodbrief/xeon-5500.pdf" title="intel.com" rel="nofollow">2.93 GHz cores</a> [intel.com], 32 GB RAM, and a fresh install of <a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">Mac OS X</a> [apple.com] Leopard v10.5.7. Ergo any crashing Google Chrome does is Google Chrome's own fault!</p><p>Why is it that <a href="http://www.apple.com/" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">Apple</a> [apple.com] and <a href="http://www.mozilla.com/" title="mozilla.com" rel="nofollow">Mozilla</a> [mozilla.com] can do this but <a href="http://www.google.com/" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">Google</a> [google.com] can't? I ran <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/default.aspx" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Internet Explorer 8</a> [microsoft.com] for months before its final release, <a href="http://www.trollaxor.com/2009/07/some-questions-comments-about-firefox.html" title="trollaxor.com" rel="nofollow">Firefox 3.5</a> [trollaxor.com] since its 3.1 days, and found <a href="http://developer.apple.com/safari/" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">Safari 4 Developer Preview</a> [apple.com] more stable than Safari 3. In fact, even <a href="http://www.webkit.org/" title="webkit.org" rel="nofollow">WebKit</a> [webkit.org] is more stable than Chrome. So what's with Google's Chrome?</p><p>What really baffles me, however, isn't the <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/93833/Kernel\_flaw\_makes\_Linux\_crash\_easily?taxonomyId=122" title="computerworld.com" rel="nofollow">instability</a> [computerworld.com] I've come to expect from Google, but that Google has the <a href="http://www.bullsballs.com/" title="bullsballs.com" rel="nofollow">audacity</a> [bullsballs.com] to ask for personal user info to improve its browser. Is the search engine maker datamonger really so desperate for my private information that it's stooped to the level of <a href="http://el.wikisource.org/wiki/Y&amp;\%23206;&amp;\%23180;&amp;\%23207;&amp;\%23207;f&amp;\%23207;f&amp;\%23206;&amp;\%23181;&amp;\%23206;&amp;\%23185;&amp;\%23206;&amp;\%23177;/&amp;\%23206;&amp;\%23180;" title="wikisource.org" rel="nofollow">Trojan horses</a> [wikisource.org] to get it?</p><p>They should ask me that when it doesn't crash on launch.</p><p>Everything Google does is just another way to sieve personal data away for targeting ads. This kind of <a href="http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html" title="google-watch.org" rel="nofollow">Big Brother</a> [google-watch.org] crap is more repulsive than the fat programmers that make it possible. Google, with its deep pockets and <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/06/business/yourmoney/06digi.html" title="nytimes.com" rel="nofollow">doctoral scholars</a> [nytimes.com], thinks that by holding user data hostage it can maneuver around Apple and <a href="http://www.micrsoft.com/" title="micrsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Microsoft</a> [micrsoft.com]. While this may be true, I'm not willing to be a part of it.</p><p>In using Google's <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=google" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">search</a> [google.com], <a href="http://mail.google.com/" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">Gmail</a> [google.com], <a href="http://www.apple.com/safari/" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">Chrome</a> [apple.com] or whatever else the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computron\_(Transformers)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">faceless robot</a> [wikipedia.org] of a company invents, the user is surrendering their personal information to a <a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=borg" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">giant hivemind</a> [google.com]. No longer are their personal preferences some choice they make; they're a string of data processed by a Google algorithm: <i>Google <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi\_concentration\_camps" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">dehumanizes</a> [wikipedia.org] its users!</i> </p><p>So while Google is arrogant enough to paint spyware shiny so it can mine our browsing habits, the least they could do is make sure it doesn't crash. If Apple, Microsoft, and Mozilla can get their preview releases right, why can't Google? And they're going to come out with their own operating system?</p><p>Get real, Google! I'll use your crashing codebloat when my Mac is cold and dead and I'm looking for handouts. Until then, quit trying to syphon off my personal data in between crashes!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just downloaded Google Chrome [ google.com ] 3.0.192.0 for Mac [ apple.com ] and it crashed before I could even open a page .
There is no excuse for this ; my Mac Pro [ apple.com ] is perfect in every way with eight 2.93 GHz cores [ intel.com ] , 32 GB RAM , and a fresh install of Mac OS X [ apple.com ] Leopard v10.5.7 .
Ergo any crashing Google Chrome does is Google Chrome 's own fault ! Why is it that Apple [ apple.com ] and Mozilla [ mozilla.com ] can do this but Google [ google.com ] ca n't ?
I ran Internet Explorer 8 [ microsoft.com ] for months before its final release , Firefox 3.5 [ trollaxor.com ] since its 3.1 days , and found Safari 4 Developer Preview [ apple.com ] more stable than Safari 3 .
In fact , even WebKit [ webkit.org ] is more stable than Chrome .
So what 's with Google 's Chrome ? What really baffles me , however , is n't the instability [ computerworld.com ] I 've come to expect from Google , but that Google has the audacity [ bullsballs.com ] to ask for personal user info to improve its browser .
Is the search engine maker datamonger really so desperate for my private information that it 's stooped to the level of Trojan horses [ wikisource.org ] to get it ? They should ask me that when it does n't crash on launch.Everything Google does is just another way to sieve personal data away for targeting ads .
This kind of Big Brother [ google-watch.org ] crap is more repulsive than the fat programmers that make it possible .
Google , with its deep pockets and doctoral scholars [ nytimes.com ] , thinks that by holding user data hostage it can maneuver around Apple and Microsoft [ micrsoft.com ] .
While this may be true , I 'm not willing to be a part of it.In using Google 's search [ google.com ] , Gmail [ google.com ] , Chrome [ apple.com ] or whatever else the faceless robot [ wikipedia.org ] of a company invents , the user is surrendering their personal information to a giant hivemind [ google.com ] .
No longer are their personal preferences some choice they make ; they 're a string of data processed by a Google algorithm : Google dehumanizes [ wikipedia.org ] its users !
So while Google is arrogant enough to paint spyware shiny so it can mine our browsing habits , the least they could do is make sure it does n't crash .
If Apple , Microsoft , and Mozilla can get their preview releases right , why ca n't Google ?
And they 're going to come out with their own operating system ? Get real , Google !
I 'll use your crashing codebloat when my Mac is cold and dead and I 'm looking for handouts .
Until then , quit trying to syphon off my personal data in between crashes !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just downloaded Google Chrome [google.com] 3.0.192.0 for Mac [apple.com] and it crashed before I could even open a page.
There is no excuse for this; my Mac Pro [apple.com] is perfect in every way with eight 2.93 GHz cores [intel.com], 32 GB RAM, and a fresh install of Mac OS X [apple.com] Leopard v10.5.7.
Ergo any crashing Google Chrome does is Google Chrome's own fault!Why is it that Apple [apple.com] and Mozilla [mozilla.com] can do this but Google [google.com] can't?
I ran Internet Explorer 8 [microsoft.com] for months before its final release, Firefox 3.5 [trollaxor.com] since its 3.1 days, and found Safari 4 Developer Preview [apple.com] more stable than Safari 3.
In fact, even WebKit [webkit.org] is more stable than Chrome.
So what's with Google's Chrome?What really baffles me, however, isn't the instability [computerworld.com] I've come to expect from Google, but that Google has the audacity [bullsballs.com] to ask for personal user info to improve its browser.
Is the search engine maker datamonger really so desperate for my private information that it's stooped to the level of Trojan horses [wikisource.org] to get it?They should ask me that when it doesn't crash on launch.Everything Google does is just another way to sieve personal data away for targeting ads.
This kind of Big Brother [google-watch.org] crap is more repulsive than the fat programmers that make it possible.
Google, with its deep pockets and doctoral scholars [nytimes.com], thinks that by holding user data hostage it can maneuver around Apple and Microsoft [micrsoft.com].
While this may be true, I'm not willing to be a part of it.In using Google's search [google.com], Gmail [google.com], Chrome [apple.com] or whatever else the faceless robot [wikipedia.org] of a company invents, the user is surrendering their personal information to a giant hivemind [google.com].
No longer are their personal preferences some choice they make; they're a string of data processed by a Google algorithm: Google dehumanizes [wikipedia.org] its users!
So while Google is arrogant enough to paint spyware shiny so it can mine our browsing habits, the least they could do is make sure it doesn't crash.
If Apple, Microsoft, and Mozilla can get their preview releases right, why can't Google?
And they're going to come out with their own operating system?Get real, Google!
I'll use your crashing codebloat when my Mac is cold and dead and I'm looking for handouts.
Until then, quit trying to syphon off my personal data in between crashes!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694897</id>
	<title>Re:Don't worry, the government has a plan!</title>
	<author>Ash Vince</author>
	<datestamp>1247602980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Cue UK government announcing multi billion plan to make the internet 'safe' with new content filtering, anti-filesharing and communication logging schemes in 5... 4... 3...</p></div><p>Someone obviously does not keep up with current events. Most UK ISP's already filter content to keep the world safe from kiddie porn and 70's album covers.</p><p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/07/brit\_isps\_censor\_wikipedia/" title="theregister.co.uk">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/07/brit\_isps\_censor\_wikipedia/</a> [theregister.co.uk]<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet\_Watch\_Foundation" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet\_Watch\_Foundation</a> [wikipedia.org]<br><a href="http://www.wired.co.uk/wired-magazine/archive/2009/05/features/the-hidden-censors-of-the-internet.aspx" title="wired.co.uk">http://www.wired.co.uk/wired-magazine/archive/2009/05/features/the-hidden-censors-of-the-internet.aspx</a> [wired.co.uk]</p><p>Couple that with Libel laws that are routinely used as a method of silencing what should be protected as free speech:</p><p><a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/334" title="senseaboutscience.org.uk">http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/334</a> [senseaboutscience.org.uk]<br><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/aug/14/law.unitednations" title="guardian.co.uk">http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/aug/14/law.unitednations</a> [guardian.co.uk]<br><a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/29/1411207" title="slashdot.org">http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/29/1411207</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>This results in a country where they have no need to bring in any draconian laws, since they have been here for some time.</p><p>(Full Disclosure - I am a British citizen and resident)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Cue UK government announcing multi billion plan to make the internet 'safe ' with new content filtering , anti-filesharing and communication logging schemes in 5... 4... 3...Someone obviously does not keep up with current events .
Most UK ISP 's already filter content to keep the world safe from kiddie porn and 70 's album covers.http : //www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/07/brit \ _isps \ _censor \ _wikipedia/ [ theregister.co.uk ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet \ _Watch \ _Foundation [ wikipedia.org ] http : //www.wired.co.uk/wired-magazine/archive/2009/05/features/the-hidden-censors-of-the-internet.aspx [ wired.co.uk ] Couple that with Libel laws that are routinely used as a method of silencing what should be protected as free speech : http : //www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/334 [ senseaboutscience.org.uk ] http : //www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/aug/14/law.unitednations [ guardian.co.uk ] http : //yro.slashdot.org/article.pl ? sid = 09/03/29/1411207 [ slashdot.org ] This results in a country where they have no need to bring in any draconian laws , since they have been here for some time .
( Full Disclosure - I am a British citizen and resident )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cue UK government announcing multi billion plan to make the internet 'safe' with new content filtering, anti-filesharing and communication logging schemes in 5... 4... 3...Someone obviously does not keep up with current events.
Most UK ISP's already filter content to keep the world safe from kiddie porn and 70's album covers.http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/07/brit\_isps\_censor\_wikipedia/ [theregister.co.uk]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet\_Watch\_Foundation [wikipedia.org]http://www.wired.co.uk/wired-magazine/archive/2009/05/features/the-hidden-censors-of-the-internet.aspx [wired.co.uk]Couple that with Libel laws that are routinely used as a method of silencing what should be protected as free speech:http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/334 [senseaboutscience.org.uk]http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/aug/14/law.unitednations [guardian.co.uk]http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/29/1411207 [slashdot.org]This results in a country where they have no need to bring in any draconian laws, since they have been here for some time.
(Full Disclosure - I am a British citizen and resident)
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	<title>Re:Who controls the botnets.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247600220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, RTFA shows that South Korea had the most bots followed by the US, and then China, Japan, and Canada.<br>The security researcher found what he has described to be the "master server" that gave orders to the botnet, which was traced to a UK Company. I think it's fairly likely, assuming this is true, that the attack was based from a UK server even if the perpetrator is not from the UK.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , RTFA shows that South Korea had the most bots followed by the US , and then China , Japan , and Canada.The security researcher found what he has described to be the " master server " that gave orders to the botnet , which was traced to a UK Company .
I think it 's fairly likely , assuming this is true , that the attack was based from a UK server even if the perpetrator is not from the UK .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, RTFA shows that South Korea had the most bots followed by the US, and then China, Japan, and Canada.The security researcher found what he has described to be the "master server" that gave orders to the botnet, which was traced to a UK Company.
I think it's fairly likely, assuming this is true, that the attack was based from a UK server even if the perpetrator is not from the UK.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694219</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28696549</id>
	<title>Re:Inflammitory headline</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1247566920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The chance of finding enough bandwidth to do a DDOS from the UK under BT's penny pinching broadband network is probably a bigger barrier to the UK being responsible<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>Seriously, you'd hit your users bandwidth caps and be throttled down to 2k/s or whatever before the target servers even realised something was trying to harass them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The chance of finding enough bandwidth to do a DDOS from the UK under BT 's penny pinching broadband network is probably a bigger barrier to the UK being responsible ; ) Seriously , you 'd hit your users bandwidth caps and be throttled down to 2k/s or whatever before the target servers even realised something was trying to harass them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The chance of finding enough bandwidth to do a DDOS from the UK under BT's penny pinching broadband network is probably a bigger barrier to the UK being responsible ;)Seriously, you'd hit your users bandwidth caps and be throttled down to 2k/s or whatever before the target servers even realised something was trying to harass them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694167</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694981</id>
	<title>Re:Oh?</title>
	<author>mistahkurtz</author>
	<datestamp>1247603460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>i see what you did there</htmltext>
<tokenext>i see what you did there</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i see what you did there</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694799</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694579</id>
	<title>We've waited for 50 years...</title>
	<author>MosesJones</author>
	<datestamp>1247601360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And now we want our Empire back...</p><p>I just can't believe that they've blown our cover so soon, I thought that dragging America into end-less wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was a brilliant move (did you seriously think that BUSH came up with the idea?) and the latest shift towards economic desolation via cyber attacks was extremely well thought out.</p><p>And why can we do this.... Because <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEx5G-GOS1k" title="youtube.com">WE HAVE A FLAG</a> [youtube.com]!</p><p>Okay back to plan B of being crap at sports we invent but quite polite about losing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And now we want our Empire back...I just ca n't believe that they 've blown our cover so soon , I thought that dragging America into end-less wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was a brilliant move ( did you seriously think that BUSH came up with the idea ?
) and the latest shift towards economic desolation via cyber attacks was extremely well thought out.And why can we do this.... Because WE HAVE A FLAG [ youtube.com ] ! Okay back to plan B of being crap at sports we invent but quite polite about losing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And now we want our Empire back...I just can't believe that they've blown our cover so soon, I thought that dragging America into end-less wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was a brilliant move (did you seriously think that BUSH came up with the idea?
) and the latest shift towards economic desolation via cyber attacks was extremely well thought out.And why can we do this.... Because WE HAVE A FLAG [youtube.com]!Okay back to plan B of being crap at sports we invent but quite polite about losing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694177</id>
	<title>Proxy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247599440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A Computer in the UK can be controlled by another computer in North Korea.</p><p>This whole thing is kind of absurd anyway...</p><p>Just secure your shit against DDoS attacks and call it a day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A Computer in the UK can be controlled by another computer in North Korea.This whole thing is kind of absurd anyway...Just secure your shit against DDoS attacks and call it a day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Computer in the UK can be controlled by another computer in North Korea.This whole thing is kind of absurd anyway...Just secure your shit against DDoS attacks and call it a day.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694907</id>
	<title>UK Terror Attack</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1247603040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>As previously Beetles America invasion failed, they now are trying with Zombies. Whats next? Vampires? Werewolves?</htmltext>
<tokenext>As previously Beetles America invasion failed , they now are trying with Zombies .
Whats next ?
Vampires ? Werewolves ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As previously Beetles America invasion failed, they now are trying with Zombies.
Whats next?
Vampires? Werewolves?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694267</id>
	<title>Response</title>
	<author>DoofusOfDeath</author>
	<datestamp>1247599800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fortunately, we can count on the British government to respond with reasoned caution, and with the utmost respect for citizens' future privacy and freedom.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fortunately , we can count on the British government to respond with reasoned caution , and with the utmost respect for citizens ' future privacy and freedom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fortunately, we can count on the British government to respond with reasoned caution, and with the utmost respect for citizens' future privacy and freedom.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28703259</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, UK!</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1247671500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you'll agree to tell Madonna and Gwyneth Paltrow that they're not British, you've got a deal!</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 'll agree to tell Madonna and Gwyneth Paltrow that they 're not British , you 've got a deal !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you'll agree to tell Madonna and Gwyneth Paltrow that they're not British, you've got a deal!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694605</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695189</id>
	<title>No eGulf-of-Tonkins, please</title>
	<author>dpbsmith</author>
	<datestamp>1247604660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Memo to "some" in the US and South Korean governments: so please be careful in future of making loose claims about North Korea doing bad stuff, unless you're sure. We don't need any Gulf of Tonkins and mobile bacteriological weapons labs. Wars have been started over less; indeed, two have. North Korea is scary enough; let's not start seeing it behind every tree.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Memo to " some " in the US and South Korean governments : so please be careful in future of making loose claims about North Korea doing bad stuff , unless you 're sure .
We do n't need any Gulf of Tonkins and mobile bacteriological weapons labs .
Wars have been started over less ; indeed , two have .
North Korea is scary enough ; let 's not start seeing it behind every tree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Memo to "some" in the US and South Korean governments: so please be careful in future of making loose claims about North Korea doing bad stuff, unless you're sure.
We don't need any Gulf of Tonkins and mobile bacteriological weapons labs.
Wars have been started over less; indeed, two have.
North Korea is scary enough; let's not start seeing it behind every tree.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28696519</id>
	<title>Re:However....</title>
	<author>SkyDude</author>
	<datestamp>1247566800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>North Koreans are still told that the mighty leader Kim-Jong Il brought down the evil western internet.</i></p></div><p>You mean it was the Queen who did it? Or was it Charles?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>North Koreans are still told that the mighty leader Kim-Jong Il brought down the evil western internet.You mean it was the Queen who did it ?
Or was it Charles ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> North Koreans are still told that the mighty leader Kim-Jong Il brought down the evil western internet.You mean it was the Queen who did it?
Or was it Charles?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695137</id>
	<title>Re:Oh?</title>
	<author>RiotingPacifist</author>
	<datestamp>1247604360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This report uses actual evidence! (A strange concept in the US, i know)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This report uses actual evidence !
( A strange concept in the US , i know )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This report uses actual evidence!
(A strange concept in the US, i know)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694151</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694275</id>
	<title>No need bot to make a DDOS</title>
	<author>godrik</author>
	<datestamp>1247599800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>slashdoting the website is enough<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>slashdoting the website is enough : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>slashdoting the website is enough :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695093</id>
	<title>Sore arm</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1247604180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh dear, looks like poor Alan Johnson will be up all night approving extradition warrants.</p><p>He can save time by not reading them, because it seems <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jun/09/hacker-extradition-jacqui-smith" title="guardian.co.uk">the stupid bitch who preceded him</a> [guardian.co.uk] never bothered.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh dear , looks like poor Alan Johnson will be up all night approving extradition warrants.He can save time by not reading them , because it seems the stupid bitch who preceded him [ guardian.co.uk ] never bothered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh dear, looks like poor Alan Johnson will be up all night approving extradition warrants.He can save time by not reading them, because it seems the stupid bitch who preceded him [guardian.co.uk] never bothered.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694675</id>
	<title>Re:Oh?</title>
	<author>dimeglio</author>
	<datestamp>1247601780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The point here is that new information was presented which might help find the real "bad guys."  I don't see how this "beats" the first report.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The point here is that new information was presented which might help find the real " bad guys .
" I do n't see how this " beats " the first report .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point here is that new information was presented which might help find the real "bad guys.
"  I don't see how this "beats" the first report.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694151</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28696537</id>
	<title>Re:Who controls the botnets.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247566920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have to wonder how one 'creates' such a geography specific botnet.  Do they have UK spam with words like bollocks? Or in the USA is it 'gun porn'?  I bet they use 'Tim Hortons' to catch the Canadians.  =)</p></div><p>Drive by downloads from www.nhsdentistry.co.uk</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to wonder how one 'creates ' such a geography specific botnet .
Do they have UK spam with words like bollocks ?
Or in the USA is it 'gun porn ' ?
I bet they use 'Tim Hortons ' to catch the Canadians .
= ) Drive by downloads from www.nhsdentistry.co.uk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to wonder how one 'creates' such a geography specific botnet.
Do they have UK spam with words like bollocks?
Or in the USA is it 'gun porn'?
I bet they use 'Tim Hortons' to catch the Canadians.
=)Drive by downloads from www.nhsdentistry.co.uk
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694219</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695473</id>
	<title>Plausible</title>
	<author>w0mprat</author>
	<datestamp>1247562600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>North Korea could have solicited the services of hackers in the U.K. or else where. It makes sense to outsource when you don't necessarily have the expertise in your own country. I'd like to point out here there are known NK sympathizers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>North Korea could have solicited the services of hackers in the U.K. or else where .
It makes sense to outsource when you do n't necessarily have the expertise in your own country .
I 'd like to point out here there are known NK sympathizers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>North Korea could have solicited the services of hackers in the U.K. or else where.
It makes sense to outsource when you don't necessarily have the expertise in your own country.
I'd like to point out here there are known NK sympathizers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694151</id>
	<title>Oh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247599320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why should we believe this report over the other ones?  Slashdot mentality always seems to be that any contradicting reports beat the initial report.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should we believe this report over the other ones ?
Slashdot mentality always seems to be that any contradicting reports beat the initial report .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should we believe this report over the other ones?
Slashdot mentality always seems to be that any contradicting reports beat the initial report.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695203</id>
	<title>We know who it's unlikely to be...</title>
	<author>Colourspace</author>
	<datestamp>1247604720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Gary McKinnon?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gary McKinnon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gary McKinnon?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28700361</id>
	<title>Re:Acronym peeve</title>
	<author>totally bogus dude</author>
	<datestamp>1247595360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe British/Australian journalists do a tiny bit of additional research to find out how an organisation writes its own name and use that format, while American journalists follow the grand tradition of expecting the world to conform to their own particular idiosyncrasies. Zing!</p><p>Seriously, look at <a href="http://blog.bkis.com/?p=718" title="bkis.com">the blog</a> [bkis.com] in question and see if you still think it's inappropriate to refer them as Bkis. At most, it seems a bit pointless to explain what it stands for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe British/Australian journalists do a tiny bit of additional research to find out how an organisation writes its own name and use that format , while American journalists follow the grand tradition of expecting the world to conform to their own particular idiosyncrasies .
Zing ! Seriously , look at the blog [ bkis.com ] in question and see if you still think it 's inappropriate to refer them as Bkis .
At most , it seems a bit pointless to explain what it stands for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe British/Australian journalists do a tiny bit of additional research to find out how an organisation writes its own name and use that format, while American journalists follow the grand tradition of expecting the world to conform to their own particular idiosyncrasies.
Zing!Seriously, look at the blog [bkis.com] in question and see if you still think it's inappropriate to refer them as Bkis.
At most, it seems a bit pointless to explain what it stands for.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695331</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694219</id>
	<title>Who controls the botnets.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247599620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just because most of the IP's involved were from the UK does not mean that N.Korea wasn't responsible.</p><p>I have to wonder how one 'creates' such a geography specific botnet.  Do they have UK spam with words like bollocks? Or in the USA is it 'gun porn'?  I bet they use 'Tim Hortons' to catch the Canadians.  =)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just because most of the IP 's involved were from the UK does not mean that N.Korea was n't responsible.I have to wonder how one 'creates ' such a geography specific botnet .
Do they have UK spam with words like bollocks ?
Or in the USA is it 'gun porn ' ?
I bet they use 'Tim Hortons ' to catch the Canadians .
= )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just because most of the IP's involved were from the UK does not mean that N.Korea wasn't responsible.I have to wonder how one 'creates' such a geography specific botnet.
Do they have UK spam with words like bollocks?
Or in the USA is it 'gun porn'?
I bet they use 'Tim Hortons' to catch the Canadians.
=)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695261</id>
	<title>The Imperialism Remains The Same: +1, Helpful</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247604960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DDos Attacks, Iraq, AND Afghanistan.</p><p>BTW, Has anyone seen or heard Tony Blair lately?</p><p>Yours In Communism,<br>Kilgore Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DDos Attacks , Iraq , AND Afghanistan.BTW , Has anyone seen or heard Tony Blair lately ? Yours In Communism,Kilgore Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DDos Attacks, Iraq, AND Afghanistan.BTW, Has anyone seen or heard Tony Blair lately?Yours In Communism,Kilgore Trout</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694581</id>
	<title>Re:However....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247601360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most North Koreans don't even know what the internet is...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most North Koreans do n't even know what the internet is.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most North Koreans don't even know what the internet is...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694885</id>
	<title>Hope they insisted on hard currency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247602920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>A Computer in the UK can be controlled by another computer in North Korea.</p></div></blockquote><p>I hope the botnet herders had insisted that North Koreans (DPRK) to pay in hard currency, since DPRK has been widely suspected to be the source of "super notes" counterfeit US currencies and as such any USD cash coming out of DPRK cannot be trusted...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A Computer in the UK can be controlled by another computer in North Korea.I hope the botnet herders had insisted that North Koreans ( DPRK ) to pay in hard currency , since DPRK has been widely suspected to be the source of " super notes " counterfeit US currencies and as such any USD cash coming out of DPRK can not be trusted.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Computer in the UK can be controlled by another computer in North Korea.I hope the botnet herders had insisted that North Koreans (DPRK) to pay in hard currency, since DPRK has been widely suspected to be the source of "super notes" counterfeit US currencies and as such any USD cash coming out of DPRK cannot be trusted...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694177</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694339</id>
	<title>A similar discussion occured here on /. previously</title>
	<author>VinylRecords</author>
	<datestamp>1247600100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In April of this year, the NYPD accused hackers in China, and some in the government and media even accused the Chinese government of being involved, in the hacking and disruption of the NYPD computer system. However many posters in the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. comment sections of the posted story theorized that the hacking was not originating from China but rather from a hacking group operating out of New York but fooling the NYPD using 'bot herding'.</p><p>I'm not familiar with how to operate and disguise a botnet to look like your hacking from IPs from another country, I would guess that you just infect a group of computer abroad, and run a botnet from there. Here's the original post on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. with comments modified to 4. Just scroll down and you can find posters discussing how the NYPD and U.S. government had misidentified who the hackers probably were.</p><p><a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?threshold=4&amp;mode=flat&amp;commentsort=0&amp;op=Change&amp;sid=1209793" title="slashdot.org">http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?threshold=4&amp;mode=flat&amp;commentsort=0&amp;op=Change&amp;sid=1209793</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>Here's the comment that I remembered the most where the user specifically wrote that the hackers were operating most likely within the U.S. and not in China.</p><p><a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1209793&amp;cid=27694281" title="slashdot.org">http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1209793&amp;cid=27694281</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>I guess until governments learn how to trace hackers properly we are going to be seeing more and more of these stories.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In April of this year , the NYPD accused hackers in China , and some in the government and media even accused the Chinese government of being involved , in the hacking and disruption of the NYPD computer system .
However many posters in the / .
comment sections of the posted story theorized that the hacking was not originating from China but rather from a hacking group operating out of New York but fooling the NYPD using 'bot herding'.I 'm not familiar with how to operate and disguise a botnet to look like your hacking from IPs from another country , I would guess that you just infect a group of computer abroad , and run a botnet from there .
Here 's the original post on / .
with comments modified to 4 .
Just scroll down and you can find posters discussing how the NYPD and U.S. government had misidentified who the hackers probably were.http : //slashdot.org/comments.pl ? threshold = 4&amp;mode = flat&amp;commentsort = 0&amp;op = Change&amp;sid = 1209793 [ slashdot.org ] Here 's the comment that I remembered the most where the user specifically wrote that the hackers were operating most likely within the U.S. and not in China.http : //slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1209793&amp;cid = 27694281 [ slashdot.org ] I guess until governments learn how to trace hackers properly we are going to be seeing more and more of these stories .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In April of this year, the NYPD accused hackers in China, and some in the government and media even accused the Chinese government of being involved, in the hacking and disruption of the NYPD computer system.
However many posters in the /.
comment sections of the posted story theorized that the hacking was not originating from China but rather from a hacking group operating out of New York but fooling the NYPD using 'bot herding'.I'm not familiar with how to operate and disguise a botnet to look like your hacking from IPs from another country, I would guess that you just infect a group of computer abroad, and run a botnet from there.
Here's the original post on /.
with comments modified to 4.
Just scroll down and you can find posters discussing how the NYPD and U.S. government had misidentified who the hackers probably were.http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?threshold=4&amp;mode=flat&amp;commentsort=0&amp;op=Change&amp;sid=1209793 [slashdot.org]Here's the comment that I remembered the most where the user specifically wrote that the hackers were operating most likely within the U.S. and not in China.http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1209793&amp;cid=27694281 [slashdot.org]I guess until governments learn how to trace hackers properly we are going to be seeing more and more of these stories.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694119</id>
	<title>However....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247599200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>North Koreans are still told that the mighty leader Kim-Jong Il brought down the evil western internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>North Koreans are still told that the mighty leader Kim-Jong Il brought down the evil western internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>North Koreans are still told that the mighty leader Kim-Jong Il brought down the evil western internet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694605</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, UK!</title>
	<author>RiotingPacifist</author>
	<datestamp>1247601480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can have your stupid country we just want Hugh Laurie and Jon Oliver back!</p><p>p.s we'd settle for getting rid of Madonna and their being a court injunction against her using that stupid British accent!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can have your stupid country we just want Hugh Laurie and Jon Oliver back ! p.s we 'd settle for getting rid of Madonna and their being a court injunction against her using that stupid British accent !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can have your stupid country we just want Hugh Laurie and Jon Oliver back!p.s we'd settle for getting rid of Madonna and their being a court injunction against her using that stupid British accent!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694263</id>
	<title>Where != Who</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247599800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if they attacks were proven to come from the UK... even if they came from North Korea, Nigeria, or Witchita KS..</p><p>Does that really tell us about the culprit?  It just tells us from where the attacks were launched.  This could be because the attacker is from that area, or because the attacker wants to appear to be from that area.</p><p>It's a clue.  Nothing more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if they attacks were proven to come from the UK... even if they came from North Korea , Nigeria , or Witchita KS..Does that really tell us about the culprit ?
It just tells us from where the attacks were launched .
This could be because the attacker is from that area , or because the attacker wants to appear to be from that area.It 's a clue .
Nothing more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if they attacks were proven to come from the UK... even if they came from North Korea, Nigeria, or Witchita KS..Does that really tell us about the culprit?
It just tells us from where the attacks were launched.
This could be because the attacker is from that area, or because the attacker wants to appear to be from that area.It's a clue.
Nothing more.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28696539</id>
	<title>Re:Inflammitory headline</title>
	<author>zeromorph</author>
	<datestamp>1247566920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ssssshhhh, facts spoil the fun. The original blog <a href="http://blog.bkis.com/?p=718" title="bkis.com">post</a> [bkis.com] -however - claims that the IP address they tracked is indeed the master server, that it is located in UK and is running on Windows 2003 Server Operating System. So on the basis of that post, the UK would have to be regarded as the source. It would be interesting to see whether this claim can be verified or at least substantiated, but it seems to be more supported by facts than any other claim I heard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ssssshhhh , facts spoil the fun .
The original blog post [ bkis.com ] -however - claims that the IP address they tracked is indeed the master server , that it is located in UK and is running on Windows 2003 Server Operating System .
So on the basis of that post , the UK would have to be regarded as the source .
It would be interesting to see whether this claim can be verified or at least substantiated , but it seems to be more supported by facts than any other claim I heard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ssssshhhh, facts spoil the fun.
The original blog post [bkis.com] -however - claims that the IP address they tracked is indeed the master server, that it is located in UK and is running on Windows 2003 Server Operating System.
So on the basis of that post, the UK would have to be regarded as the source.
It would be interesting to see whether this claim can be verified or at least substantiated, but it seems to be more supported by facts than any other claim I heard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694167</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694833</id>
	<title>Re:Where != Who</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247602620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's spelled "Wichita"</p><p>Don't make me put a spell on you...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's spelled " Wichita " Do n't make me put a spell on you.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's spelled "Wichita"Don't make me put a spell on you...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694263</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694147</id>
	<title>ff=on</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247599320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>friendly fire</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>friendly fire</tokentext>
<sentencetext>friendly fire</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695237</id>
	<title>Re:Oh?</title>
	<author>chickenarise</author>
	<datestamp>1247604840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes it is!
<p>
(can I haz +5 insightful mod, or is this nest too big?)
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes it is !
( can I haz + 5 insightful mod , or is this nest too big ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes it is!
(can I haz +5 insightful mod, or is this nest too big?
)
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694845</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694207</id>
	<title>Come on, UK!</title>
	<author>Foobar of Borg</author>
	<datestamp>1247599560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>For the love of Heaven!  The war has been over for 226 years!  Get over it, already!</htmltext>
<tokenext>For the love of Heaven !
The war has been over for 226 years !
Get over it , already !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the love of Heaven!
The war has been over for 226 years!
Get over it, already!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28696131</id>
	<title>Re:Inflammitory headline</title>
	<author>thomasw\_lrd</author>
	<datestamp>1247565240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That the US govt is evil and every other govt on the planet is more right and better than ours.</p><p>Come on this is slashdot, US govt evil, MS evil, Google and Iphone Good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That the US govt is evil and every other govt on the planet is more right and better than ours.Come on this is slashdot , US govt evil , MS evil , Google and Iphone Good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That the US govt is evil and every other govt on the planet is more right and better than ours.Come on this is slashdot, US govt evil, MS evil, Google and Iphone Good.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694167</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694357</id>
	<title>28 days</title>
	<author>Faux\_Pseudo</author>
	<datestamp>1247600220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Were the zombies filled with rage?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Were the zombies filled with rage ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Were the zombies filled with rage?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695331</id>
	<title>Acronym peeve</title>
	<author>GPS Pilot</author>
	<datestamp>1247562000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(off topic)</p><p>Why have British/Australian journalists never been taught a consistent policy for capitalizing acronyms?  Many a British article refers to NATO as Nato, and NASA as Nasa.  This FA defines an acronym "Bkis" thusly:</p><p><i>Bach Khoa Internetwork Security (Bkis)</i></p><p>And yet the same article refers to PCs, not Pcs, and DDOS attacks, not Ddos attacks.  It's maddening.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( off topic ) Why have British/Australian journalists never been taught a consistent policy for capitalizing acronyms ?
Many a British article refers to NATO as Nato , and NASA as Nasa .
This FA defines an acronym " Bkis " thusly : Bach Khoa Internetwork Security ( Bkis ) And yet the same article refers to PCs , not Pcs , and DDOS attacks , not Ddos attacks .
It 's maddening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(off topic)Why have British/Australian journalists never been taught a consistent policy for capitalizing acronyms?
Many a British article refers to NATO as Nato, and NASA as Nasa.
This FA defines an acronym "Bkis" thusly:Bach Khoa Internetwork Security (Bkis)And yet the same article refers to PCs, not Pcs, and DDOS attacks, not Ddos attacks.
It's maddening.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694167</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28698833</id>
	<title>Thoughts from an end luser</title>
	<author>AHuxley</author>
	<datestamp>1247581320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just seeing a lot of fake video search results on google.<br>
I made a vid of Safari on my Mac getting the trojan dmg pushed out.<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3syWWeQu9s" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3syWWeQu9s</a> [youtube.com] <br>
Just feeling a lot of effort for fake vids links under many normal search terms.<br>
Someone is building something on Macs and Win.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just seeing a lot of fake video search results on google .
I made a vid of Safari on my Mac getting the trojan dmg pushed out .
http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = c3syWWeQu9s [ youtube.com ] Just feeling a lot of effort for fake vids links under many normal search terms .
Someone is building something on Macs and Win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just seeing a lot of fake video search results on google.
I made a vid of Safari on my Mac getting the trojan dmg pushed out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3syWWeQu9s [youtube.com] 
Just feeling a lot of effort for fake vids links under many normal search terms.
Someone is building something on Macs and Win.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694691</id>
	<title>Regardless of Country of origin</title>
	<author>S7urm</author>
	<datestamp>1247601840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would think once it was determined that this was not a State sponsored attack, they would stop making such a stink over what country the attacks originated from. Hacking has been going on for 20 + years now, and it has never been a real concern before on the country of origin because State sponsored hacking was such a negligable issue that it was commonly overlooked. I do understand that Russia may have sponsored attacks on Georgia, and maybe China has hacked Taiwan and vice versa, but I mean, short of a concerted Government led effort, I would take this as just another case of Bot Net owner playing with his toys. Not as a sign of intra Governmental hacking as a precursor to some sort of overt warlike effort beginning.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would think once it was determined that this was not a State sponsored attack , they would stop making such a stink over what country the attacks originated from .
Hacking has been going on for 20 + years now , and it has never been a real concern before on the country of origin because State sponsored hacking was such a negligable issue that it was commonly overlooked .
I do understand that Russia may have sponsored attacks on Georgia , and maybe China has hacked Taiwan and vice versa , but I mean , short of a concerted Government led effort , I would take this as just another case of Bot Net owner playing with his toys .
Not as a sign of intra Governmental hacking as a precursor to some sort of overt warlike effort beginning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would think once it was determined that this was not a State sponsored attack, they would stop making such a stink over what country the attacks originated from.
Hacking has been going on for 20 + years now, and it has never been a real concern before on the country of origin because State sponsored hacking was such a negligable issue that it was commonly overlooked.
I do understand that Russia may have sponsored attacks on Georgia, and maybe China has hacked Taiwan and vice versa, but I mean, short of a concerted Government led effort, I would take this as just another case of Bot Net owner playing with his toys.
Not as a sign of intra Governmental hacking as a precursor to some sort of overt warlike effort beginning.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28696267</id>
	<title>Re:Who controls the botnets.</title>
	<author>mevets</author>
	<datestamp>1247565720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I keep getting told I can increase the number of doughnuts I can carry, but never gave much thought to it..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep getting told I can increase the number of doughnuts I can carry , but never gave much thought to it. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep getting told I can increase the number of doughnuts I can carry, but never gave much thought to it..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694219</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694459</id>
	<title>Still Useful</title>
	<author>Demonantis</author>
	<datestamp>1247600760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This summary masks the true benefit of the information just to turn heads. There is now a paper trail to an anonymous entity. Hopefully if all the international government bodies work together they can stop the activity of this bot net. I'm curious if it has been this difficult to find the master server then how much evidence does the US and SK have to make accusations. Fortunately, for the US and SK their politicians don't need proof to make statements.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This summary masks the true benefit of the information just to turn heads .
There is now a paper trail to an anonymous entity .
Hopefully if all the international government bodies work together they can stop the activity of this bot net .
I 'm curious if it has been this difficult to find the master server then how much evidence does the US and SK have to make accusations .
Fortunately , for the US and SK their politicians do n't need proof to make statements .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This summary masks the true benefit of the information just to turn heads.
There is now a paper trail to an anonymous entity.
Hopefully if all the international government bodies work together they can stop the activity of this bot net.
I'm curious if it has been this difficult to find the master server then how much evidence does the US and SK have to make accusations.
Fortunately, for the US and SK their politicians don't need proof to make statements.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695709</id>
	<title>Re:However....</title>
	<author>Nathrael</author>
	<datestamp>1247563620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's because only old people...eh, wait. Wrong Korea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's because only old people...eh , wait .
Wrong Korea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's because only old people...eh, wait.
Wrong Korea.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694581</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694925</id>
	<title>the site is slow because...</title>
	<author>Scragglykat</author>
	<datestamp>1247603100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...all their bandwidth is being used up sending out DDoS attacks! Doh!</htmltext>
<tokenext>...all their bandwidth is being used up sending out DDoS attacks !
Doh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...all their bandwidth is being used up sending out DDoS attacks!
Doh!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694513</id>
	<title>Why would NK do it?</title>
	<author>Ralph Spoilsport</author>
	<datestamp>1247601000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would make them so <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdug6yHJB40" title="youtube.com">Ronery.</a> [youtube.com]
<p>
RS</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would make them so Ronery .
[ youtube.com ] RS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would make them so Ronery.
[youtube.com]

RS</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694249</id>
	<title>If true</title>
	<author>rm999</author>
	<datestamp>1247599740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If true, this is kind of like the time the US accused North Korea of creating really authentic-looking counterfeit 100 dollar bills, and then it turned out that they are probably coming from within the US - possibly from the CIA to fund covert operations.</p><p>I hate to say it, but maybe Kim Jong Il isn't crazy when he claims the Western governments are part of a big conspiracy to falsely ruin his image (hah!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If true , this is kind of like the time the US accused North Korea of creating really authentic-looking counterfeit 100 dollar bills , and then it turned out that they are probably coming from within the US - possibly from the CIA to fund covert operations.I hate to say it , but maybe Kim Jong Il is n't crazy when he claims the Western governments are part of a big conspiracy to falsely ruin his image ( hah !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If true, this is kind of like the time the US accused North Korea of creating really authentic-looking counterfeit 100 dollar bills, and then it turned out that they are probably coming from within the US - possibly from the CIA to fund covert operations.I hate to say it, but maybe Kim Jong Il isn't crazy when he claims the Western governments are part of a big conspiracy to falsely ruin his image (hah!
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694599</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, UK!</title>
	<author>woodchip</author>
	<datestamp>1247601420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>What are you talking about, the war of 1812 wasn't over until 194 years ago.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you talking about , the war of 1812 was n't over until 194 years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you talking about, the war of 1812 wasn't over until 194 years ago.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694293</id>
	<title>Don't worry, the government has a plan!</title>
	<author>fridaynightsmoke</author>
	<datestamp>1247599920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cue UK government announcing multi billion plan to make the internet 'safe' with new content filtering, anti-filesharing and communication logging schemes in 5... 4... 3...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cue UK government announcing multi billion plan to make the internet 'safe ' with new content filtering , anti-filesharing and communication logging schemes in 5... 4... 3.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cue UK government announcing multi billion plan to make the internet 'safe' with new content filtering, anti-filesharing and communication logging schemes in 5... 4... 3...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695613</id>
	<title>Re:Oh?</title>
	<author>Nimey</author>
	<datestamp>1247563260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is abuse, you stupid git.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is abuse , you stupid git .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is abuse, you stupid git.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694845</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694845</id>
	<title>Re:Oh?</title>
	<author>AdamTrace</author>
	<datestamp>1247602680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well this isn't an argument!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well this is n't an argument !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well this isn't an argument!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694799</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694477</id>
	<title>Master Server Location != Controller</title>
	<author>nweaver</author>
	<datestamp>1247600880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The researcher found the computer that was used as the entry point for commands into the botnet.</p><p>This has nothing to do with who is responsbile for the attack.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The researcher found the computer that was used as the entry point for commands into the botnet.This has nothing to do with who is responsbile for the attack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The researcher found the computer that was used as the entry point for commands into the botnet.This has nothing to do with who is responsbile for the attack.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694167</id>
	<title>Inflammitory headline</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247599380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article has no real indication that anything was the source, just that the last hop the analyst was able to track was in the UK...which means?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article has no real indication that anything was the source , just that the last hop the analyst was able to track was in the UK...which means ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article has no real indication that anything was the source, just that the last hop the analyst was able to track was in the UK...which means?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695085</id>
	<title>OT -- Re:Come on, UK!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247604180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On July 4th, a "friend" on facebook commented, "I'm so glad we're not under Britain."</p><p>I thought, "Wow, he's missing the point."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On July 4th , a " friend " on facebook commented , " I 'm so glad we 're not under Britain .
" I thought , " Wow , he 's missing the point .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On July 4th, a "friend" on facebook commented, "I'm so glad we're not under Britain.
"I thought, "Wow, he's missing the point.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694207</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695051</id>
	<title>Re:We've waited for 50 years...</title>
	<author>dkleinsc</author>
	<datestamp>1247603940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Okay back to plan B of being crap at sports we invent but quite polite about losing.</p></div><p>Have you been to a football match? Those guys are anything but "quite polite".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay back to plan B of being crap at sports we invent but quite polite about losing.Have you been to a football match ?
Those guys are anything but " quite polite " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay back to plan B of being crap at sports we invent but quite polite about losing.Have you been to a football match?
Those guys are anything but "quite polite".
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28701435</id>
	<title>Re:Regardless of Country of origin</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247656680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree. If a government wanted to hack another governmant I'd presume they'd do it quietly. Or at least that what I would do if I'd be a government. For really causing havoc, a cup of coffee in a backbone router would be much more effective.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
If a government wanted to hack another governmant I 'd presume they 'd do it quietly .
Or at least that what I would do if I 'd be a government .
For really causing havoc , a cup of coffee in a backbone router would be much more effective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
If a government wanted to hack another governmant I'd presume they'd do it quietly.
Or at least that what I would do if I'd be a government.
For really causing havoc, a cup of coffee in a backbone router would be much more effective.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694937</id>
	<title>Re:Where != Who</title>
	<author>DoofusOfDeath</author>
	<datestamp>1247603220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Even if they attacks were proven to come from the UK... even if they came from North Korea, Nigeria, or Witchita KS..</p><p>Does that really tell us about the culprit?</p></div><p>Well, yes, actually.  If it was from Nigeria, they'd just want some help recovering their money from off-shore accounts.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if they attacks were proven to come from the UK... even if they came from North Korea , Nigeria , or Witchita KS..Does that really tell us about the culprit ? Well , yes , actually .
If it was from Nigeria , they 'd just want some help recovering their money from off-shore accounts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if they attacks were proven to come from the UK... even if they came from North Korea, Nigeria, or Witchita KS..Does that really tell us about the culprit?Well, yes, actually.
If it was from Nigeria, they'd just want some help recovering their money from off-shore accounts.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28696577</id>
	<title>Re:Oh?</title>
	<author>tmosley</author>
	<datestamp>1247567100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is abuse, arguments are down the hall.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is abuse , arguments are down the hall .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is abuse, arguments are down the hall.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694845</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694291</id>
	<title>Source</title>
	<author>Phroggy</author>
	<datestamp>1247599920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm fairly certain that just because a server in the UK was controlling the botnet, that doesn't necessarily mean a Brit was controlling that server, nor does it rule out that a North Korean was behind it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm fairly certain that just because a server in the UK was controlling the botnet , that does n't necessarily mean a Brit was controlling that server , nor does it rule out that a North Korean was behind it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm fairly certain that just because a server in the UK was controlling the botnet, that doesn't necessarily mean a Brit was controlling that server, nor does it rule out that a North Korean was behind it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694947</id>
	<title>The enemy of my enemy is my friend.</title>
	<author>auric\_dude</author>
	<datestamp>1247603280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The North Koreans want you to think it was all organised by the friends of Gary McKinnon but they know better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The North Koreans want you to think it was all organised by the friends of Gary McKinnon but they know better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The North Koreans want you to think it was all organised by the friends of Gary McKinnon but they know better.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695829</id>
	<title>Re:If true</title>
	<author>Guru80</author>
	<datestamp>1247564100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah because a guy who wants to breed giant rabbits to end hunger, shot 38 under par in one round of golf hitting several hole-in-ones in his first attempt ever, kidnapped the South's top Actress and Director who made an even better reality show with a car chase through Vienna to escape, despises everyone taller than him (so pretty much everyone who has made it through Kindergarten), made rainbows spontaneously appear upon his birth, doesn't piss or shit, made the entire country quit smoking because he had to..well you get the idea...needs any help looking crazy!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)

Just sayin<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah because a guy who wants to breed giant rabbits to end hunger , shot 38 under par in one round of golf hitting several hole-in-ones in his first attempt ever , kidnapped the South 's top Actress and Director who made an even better reality show with a car chase through Vienna to escape , despises everyone taller than him ( so pretty much everyone who has made it through Kindergarten ) , made rainbows spontaneously appear upon his birth , does n't piss or shit , made the entire country quit smoking because he had to..well you get the idea...needs any help looking crazy !
; - ) Just sayin ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah because a guy who wants to breed giant rabbits to end hunger, shot 38 under par in one round of golf hitting several hole-in-ones in his first attempt ever, kidnapped the South's top Actress and Director who made an even better reality show with a car chase through Vienna to escape, despises everyone taller than him (so pretty much everyone who has made it through Kindergarten), made rainbows spontaneously appear upon his birth, doesn't piss or shit, made the entire country quit smoking because he had to..well you get the idea...needs any help looking crazy!
;-)

Just sayin ;-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28703163</id>
	<title>Re:Inflammitory headline</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1247671140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google good, Apple good, Linux god.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google good , Apple good , Linux god .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google good, Apple good, Linux god.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28696131</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28697081</id>
	<title>Re:Oh?</title>
	<author>dontmakemethink</author>
	<datestamp>1247569560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Slashdot mentality always seems to be that any contradicting reports beat the initial report.</p></div><p>We know the Romulans are behind everything, it's how they incite war.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot mentality always seems to be that any contradicting reports beat the initial report.We know the Romulans are behind everything , it 's how they incite war .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot mentality always seems to be that any contradicting reports beat the initial report.We know the Romulans are behind everything, it's how they incite war.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694151</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28696445</id>
	<title>Re:UK Terror Attack</title>
	<author>fridaynightsmoke</author>
	<datestamp>1247566380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Last time I checked, the USA had already retaliated with endless "news" and memorials of Michael Jackson's death...<br>
*ducks*</htmltext>
<tokenext>Last time I checked , the USA had already retaliated with endless " news " and memorials of Michael Jackson 's death.. . * ducks *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last time I checked, the USA had already retaliated with endless "news" and memorials of Michael Jackson's death...
*ducks*</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694907</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28695673</id>
	<title>Re:It WAS State Sponsored</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247563440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>tinfoil hat = too tight</htmltext>
<tokenext>tinfoil hat = too tight</tokentext>
<sentencetext>tinfoil hat = too tight</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694781</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694155</id>
	<title>Coral...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247599320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://blog.bkis.com/?p=718.nyud.net" title="bkis.com" rel="nofollow">Cached</a> [bkis.com]</p><p>It's not like it's hard...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cached [ bkis.com ] It 's not like it 's hard.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cached [bkis.com]It's not like it's hard...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694781</id>
	<title>It WAS State Sponsored</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247602380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, the states that sponsored it would be the US and UK, under the auspices of whipping people into a frenzy over "cyber-warfare" and getting people to lay down their liberties online willingly.  Create the problem, wait for the panicked reaction, then offer a (usually self-serving and draconian) solution.</p><p>If this wasn't a covert op on the part of western intelligence agencies, then I'm the resurrected zombie hellspawn of Carmen Miranda and Kurt Cobian.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , the states that sponsored it would be the US and UK , under the auspices of whipping people into a frenzy over " cyber-warfare " and getting people to lay down their liberties online willingly .
Create the problem , wait for the panicked reaction , then offer a ( usually self-serving and draconian ) solution.If this was n't a covert op on the part of western intelligence agencies , then I 'm the resurrected zombie hellspawn of Carmen Miranda and Kurt Cobian .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, the states that sponsored it would be the US and UK, under the auspices of whipping people into a frenzy over "cyber-warfare" and getting people to lay down their liberties online willingly.
Create the problem, wait for the panicked reaction, then offer a (usually self-serving and draconian) solution.If this wasn't a covert op on the part of western intelligence agencies, then I'm the resurrected zombie hellspawn of Carmen Miranda and Kurt Cobian.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1715252.28694655</id>
	<title>I think it is obvious.</title>
	<author>gubers33</author>
	<datestamp>1247601660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Vietnamese are in bed with North Korea. OR This guy is really a North Korean posing as a Vietnamese Computer Scientist.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Vietnamese are in bed with North Korea .
OR This guy is really a North Korean posing as a Vietnamese Computer Scientist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Vietnamese are in bed with North Korea.
OR This guy is really a North Korean posing as a Vietnamese Computer Scientist.</sentencetext>
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