<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_11_2012247</id>
	<title>Searching Google, Where Internet Access is Scarce</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1247301120000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Internet searching means that finding information mundane, obscure, or fantastically useful is just a few keystrokes away &mdash; but not if you're without a connection to the Internet (or can't read), both the norm for many of the world's poor. <a href="http://www.itworld.com/" rel="nofollow">itwbennett</a> writes <i>"Rose Shuman developed a contraption for this under-served population called <a href="http://www.questionbox.org/">Question Box</a> that is essentially a <a href="http://wireless.itworld.com/internet/70594/searching-where-google-can-t">one-step-removed Internet search</a>: 'A villager presses a call button on a physical intercom device, located in their village, which connects them to a trained operator in a nearby town who's sitting in front of a computer attached to the Internet. A question is asked. While the questioner holds, the operator looks up the answer on the Internet and reads it back. All questions and answers are logged. For the villager there is no keyboard to deal with. No complex technology. No literacy issues.' This week, Jon Gosier, of <a href="http://appfrica.net/blog/">Appfrica</a>, launched a web site called <a href="http://appfrica2.com/qbox/index.html">World Wants to Know</a> that displays the QuestionBox questions being asked in real time. As Jon put it, it's allowing 'searching where Google can't.' And providing remarkable insight into the real information needs of off-the-grid populations."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Internet searching means that finding information mundane , obscure , or fantastically useful is just a few keystrokes away    but not if you 're without a connection to the Internet ( or ca n't read ) , both the norm for many of the world 's poor .
itwbennett writes " Rose Shuman developed a contraption for this under-served population called Question Box that is essentially a one-step-removed Internet search : 'A villager presses a call button on a physical intercom device , located in their village , which connects them to a trained operator in a nearby town who 's sitting in front of a computer attached to the Internet .
A question is asked .
While the questioner holds , the operator looks up the answer on the Internet and reads it back .
All questions and answers are logged .
For the villager there is no keyboard to deal with .
No complex technology .
No literacy issues .
' This week , Jon Gosier , of Appfrica , launched a web site called World Wants to Know that displays the QuestionBox questions being asked in real time .
As Jon put it , it 's allowing 'searching where Google ca n't .
' And providing remarkable insight into the real information needs of off-the-grid populations .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Internet searching means that finding information mundane, obscure, or fantastically useful is just a few keystrokes away — but not if you're without a connection to the Internet (or can't read), both the norm for many of the world's poor.
itwbennett writes "Rose Shuman developed a contraption for this under-served population called Question Box that is essentially a one-step-removed Internet search: 'A villager presses a call button on a physical intercom device, located in their village, which connects them to a trained operator in a nearby town who's sitting in front of a computer attached to the Internet.
A question is asked.
While the questioner holds, the operator looks up the answer on the Internet and reads it back.
All questions and answers are logged.
For the villager there is no keyboard to deal with.
No complex technology.
No literacy issues.
' This week, Jon Gosier, of Appfrica, launched a web site called World Wants to Know that displays the QuestionBox questions being asked in real time.
As Jon put it, it's allowing 'searching where Google can't.
' And providing remarkable insight into the real information needs of off-the-grid populations.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663387</id>
	<title>Goatse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247308260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Person: "Operator, what is Goatse?"<br>Operator: "Please hold"</p><p>*4 seconds later*</p><p>Operator: "AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Person : " Operator , what is Goatse ?
" Operator : " Please hold " * 4 seconds later * Operator : " AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Person: "Operator, what is Goatse?
"Operator: "Please hold"*4 seconds later*Operator: "AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28665505</id>
	<title>Re:What if I asked</title>
	<author>TimSSG</author>
	<datestamp>1247335560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How much wood would a wood-chuck chuck if a wood-chuck could chuck wood?</p></div><p>
Traditional Answer is<br>
"As much wood as a wood-chuck chuck if a wood-chuck could chuck wood."<br>
<br>
How many cans could a canner can if a canner could can cans?<br>
In my opinion, "canner can" another form of the wood-chuck question.<br>
<br>
Tim S.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How much wood would a wood-chuck chuck if a wood-chuck could chuck wood ?
Traditional Answer is " As much wood as a wood-chuck chuck if a wood-chuck could chuck wood .
" How many cans could a canner can if a canner could can cans ?
In my opinion , " canner can " another form of the wood-chuck question .
Tim S .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much wood would a wood-chuck chuck if a wood-chuck could chuck wood?
Traditional Answer is
"As much wood as a wood-chuck chuck if a wood-chuck could chuck wood.
"

How many cans could a canner can if a canner could can cans?
In my opinion, "canner can" another form of the wood-chuck question.
Tim S.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663145</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28666009</id>
	<title>Could you Google this for me Peggy?</title>
	<author>ockegheim</author>
	<datestamp>1247389920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seeing no one else has, I should link to <a href="http://fury.com/google-circa-1960.php" title="fury.com">how our forebears managed</a> [fury.com] at the time of Mad Men.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seeing no one else has , I should link to how our forebears managed [ fury.com ] at the time of Mad Men .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seeing no one else has, I should link to how our forebears managed [fury.com] at the time of Mad Men.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28665337</id>
	<title>Re:I wonder how these operators are trained</title>
	<author>Phroggy</author>
	<datestamp>1247332560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google isn't designed to answer questions, it's designed to find web sites.  People get this confused, because quite often when you search for a question, Google will find a page that contains the answer, but as you've demonstrated, for a lot of question types that's not going to be the case.</p><p>But of course, that's why this sort of experiment is good:  by logging all the questions, we can see how people want to use a service like this, and can see that providing access to people who are knowledgeable about agriculture and health care will be much more useful than providing access to Google.  That's good to know.  Next step:  do that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google is n't designed to answer questions , it 's designed to find web sites .
People get this confused , because quite often when you search for a question , Google will find a page that contains the answer , but as you 've demonstrated , for a lot of question types that 's not going to be the case.But of course , that 's why this sort of experiment is good : by logging all the questions , we can see how people want to use a service like this , and can see that providing access to people who are knowledgeable about agriculture and health care will be much more useful than providing access to Google .
That 's good to know .
Next step : do that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google isn't designed to answer questions, it's designed to find web sites.
People get this confused, because quite often when you search for a question, Google will find a page that contains the answer, but as you've demonstrated, for a lot of question types that's not going to be the case.But of course, that's why this sort of experiment is good:  by logging all the questions, we can see how people want to use a service like this, and can see that providing access to people who are knowledgeable about agriculture and health care will be much more useful than providing access to Google.
That's good to know.
Next step:  do that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663975</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663363</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>intx13</author>
	<datestamp>1247308020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just how DO you teach a (practically) stone-age tribesman to use a computer?</p></div><p>Stone age tribesman?  Take a look at the questions they're asking: who is on top on football, popular NBA players, info on the Obamas, quality of life in different regions of Uganda, the causes of sexual health problems, transmission of diseases, etc.  They live in an underdeveloped country, but that doesn't mean they're underdeveloped people.
<br> <br>
If a service like this could be sustained long-term and made accessible to more people, I think this could be a great tool.  In particular, the questions about conflicting religions and sexual health are striking - there's a lot of ignorance about health, religion, and science in Africa... but that ignorance is a reflection of the state of region, not the willfull behavior of the people.  Access to the Internet can provide an "out" for those that want to learn but have limited options in their village.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just how DO you teach a ( practically ) stone-age tribesman to use a computer ? Stone age tribesman ?
Take a look at the questions they 're asking : who is on top on football , popular NBA players , info on the Obamas , quality of life in different regions of Uganda , the causes of sexual health problems , transmission of diseases , etc .
They live in an underdeveloped country , but that does n't mean they 're underdeveloped people .
If a service like this could be sustained long-term and made accessible to more people , I think this could be a great tool .
In particular , the questions about conflicting religions and sexual health are striking - there 's a lot of ignorance about health , religion , and science in Africa... but that ignorance is a reflection of the state of region , not the willfull behavior of the people .
Access to the Internet can provide an " out " for those that want to learn but have limited options in their village .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just how DO you teach a (practically) stone-age tribesman to use a computer?Stone age tribesman?
Take a look at the questions they're asking: who is on top on football, popular NBA players, info on the Obamas, quality of life in different regions of Uganda, the causes of sexual health problems, transmission of diseases, etc.
They live in an underdeveloped country, but that doesn't mean they're underdeveloped people.
If a service like this could be sustained long-term and made accessible to more people, I think this could be a great tool.
In particular, the questions about conflicting religions and sexual health are striking - there's a lot of ignorance about health, religion, and science in Africa... but that ignorance is a reflection of the state of region, not the willfull behavior of the people.
Access to the Internet can provide an "out" for those that want to learn but have limited options in their village.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663021</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28665105</id>
	<title>Re:I wonder how these operators are trained</title>
	<author>watergeus</author>
	<datestamp>1247329020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the idea is wonderful.<br>And you could be an excellent consultant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the idea is wonderful.And you could be an excellent consultant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the idea is wonderful.And you could be an excellent consultant.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663975</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28666495</id>
	<title>Re:This won't work.</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1247400960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's why you need "smart" operators that can turn a question from a villager who has no idea how the internet works into an internet compatible question that will yield meaning- and useful answers. And that's also why just putting a computer in every village will eventually lead to what you just wrote.</p><p>The operators would have to have some training and would have to know how the internet works. They would have to know a few relevant webpages for the questions at hand. Just typing blindly into the google search bar won't cut it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's why you need " smart " operators that can turn a question from a villager who has no idea how the internet works into an internet compatible question that will yield meaning- and useful answers .
And that 's also why just putting a computer in every village will eventually lead to what you just wrote.The operators would have to have some training and would have to know how the internet works .
They would have to know a few relevant webpages for the questions at hand .
Just typing blindly into the google search bar wo n't cut it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's why you need "smart" operators that can turn a question from a villager who has no idea how the internet works into an internet compatible question that will yield meaning- and useful answers.
And that's also why just putting a computer in every village will eventually lead to what you just wrote.The operators would have to have some training and would have to know how the internet works.
They would have to know a few relevant webpages for the questions at hand.
Just typing blindly into the google search bar won't cut it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664981</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664909</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1247325180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree. I bet most people down there are, even if not as much educated, still more intelligent, as many people here.</p><p>Because they have to. While we can just whine that life is to hard, and that we demand that someone wipes our ass. ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
I bet most people down there are , even if not as much educated , still more intelligent , as many people here.Because they have to .
While we can just whine that life is to hard , and that we demand that someone wipes our ass .
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
I bet most people down there are, even if not as much educated, still more intelligent, as many people here.Because they have to.
While we can just whine that life is to hard, and that we demand that someone wipes our ass.
^^</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663363</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28662921</id>
	<title>FP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247304780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FP</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FP</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FP</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663007</id>
	<title>At last the perfect number</title>
	<author>Arthur B.</author>
	<datestamp>1247305500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>for who wants to be a millionaire.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>for who wants to be a millionaire .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for who wants to be a millionaire.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28668849</id>
	<title>Re:Don't freaking underestimate people!</title>
	<author>Diagoras of Melos</author>
	<datestamp>1247428560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm old enough and smart enough to know that every living person over the age of about 4 knows something useful that I don't. Managing one's existence with the handicap of illiteracy requires smarts and resourcefulness that those of us who can read can scarcely imagine.</p><p>The Question Box inventor, Rose Shuman, is the daughter of a lifelong friend of mine. The invention solves two problems: how to bring information to illiterate villagers who lack even mobile phone access, and how to employ some of the educated daughters of conservative families who won't allow them to work outside the home. Invariably, the answering voice of these Question Boxes is just such a woman. She needs only an Internet-connected computer to perform this service in the privacy of her bedroom a few hundred miles away.</p><p>The log of their questions is also useful in two ways: it allows us naive Westerners to appreciate better the native intelligence of these villagers, and it allows a wider audience of people to suggest ways to improve the service and to make more efficient the flow of empowering information to the nearly infinite variety of people who desperately need it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm old enough and smart enough to know that every living person over the age of about 4 knows something useful that I do n't .
Managing one 's existence with the handicap of illiteracy requires smarts and resourcefulness that those of us who can read can scarcely imagine.The Question Box inventor , Rose Shuman , is the daughter of a lifelong friend of mine .
The invention solves two problems : how to bring information to illiterate villagers who lack even mobile phone access , and how to employ some of the educated daughters of conservative families who wo n't allow them to work outside the home .
Invariably , the answering voice of these Question Boxes is just such a woman .
She needs only an Internet-connected computer to perform this service in the privacy of her bedroom a few hundred miles away.The log of their questions is also useful in two ways : it allows us naive Westerners to appreciate better the native intelligence of these villagers , and it allows a wider audience of people to suggest ways to improve the service and to make more efficient the flow of empowering information to the nearly infinite variety of people who desperately need it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm old enough and smart enough to know that every living person over the age of about 4 knows something useful that I don't.
Managing one's existence with the handicap of illiteracy requires smarts and resourcefulness that those of us who can read can scarcely imagine.The Question Box inventor, Rose Shuman, is the daughter of a lifelong friend of mine.
The invention solves two problems: how to bring information to illiterate villagers who lack even mobile phone access, and how to employ some of the educated daughters of conservative families who won't allow them to work outside the home.
Invariably, the answering voice of these Question Boxes is just such a woman.
She needs only an Internet-connected computer to perform this service in the privacy of her bedroom a few hundred miles away.The log of their questions is also useful in two ways: it allows us naive Westerners to appreciate better the native intelligence of these villagers, and it allows a wider audience of people to suggest ways to improve the service and to make more efficient the flow of empowering information to the nearly infinite variety of people who desperately need it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664895</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28665183</id>
	<title>What's a goatse?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247330340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is just ripe for abuse. "What's a goatse?" followed by long silence.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just ripe for abuse .
" What 's a goatse ?
" followed by long silence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is just ripe for abuse.
"What's a goatse?
" followed by long silence.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28666003</id>
	<title>"Experts" in Sweden</title>
	<author>qrwe</author>
	<datestamp>1247389860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is actually a service for this in Sweden, where a company has made it possible for anyone to send a text message to a certain number, where an "expert" (read: trained Googler) answers everything in his/her answer (also by SMS). I have not looked up if there's any audible operator available for the same task, but there certainly would be if the larger market asked for it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is actually a service for this in Sweden , where a company has made it possible for anyone to send a text message to a certain number , where an " expert " ( read : trained Googler ) answers everything in his/her answer ( also by SMS ) .
I have not looked up if there 's any audible operator available for the same task , but there certainly would be if the larger market asked for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is actually a service for this in Sweden, where a company has made it possible for anyone to send a text message to a certain number, where an "expert" (read: trained Googler) answers everything in his/her answer (also by SMS).
I have not looked up if there's any audible operator available for the same task, but there certainly would be if the larger market asked for it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663975</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663595</id>
	<title>Re:The problem is African IQ.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247309640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only people who are responsible for African and African-American failure is Africans and African-Americans.  They wrecked their own societies due to low IQ.</p></div><p>Sure, imperialism and colonialism are not really accountable influences. It is not like Africa is in the state it is, because Europe pushed them that way.</p><p>Two side notes:<br>1. The only thing an IQ test measures reliably is how good you are at solving IQ tests.<br>2. Indians and Arabs created the base of our math. Just take a look at Fibonaccis biography</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only people who are responsible for African and African-American failure is Africans and African-Americans .
They wrecked their own societies due to low IQ.Sure , imperialism and colonialism are not really accountable influences .
It is not like Africa is in the state it is , because Europe pushed them that way.Two side notes : 1 .
The only thing an IQ test measures reliably is how good you are at solving IQ tests.2 .
Indians and Arabs created the base of our math .
Just take a look at Fibonaccis biography</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only people who are responsible for African and African-American failure is Africans and African-Americans.
They wrecked their own societies due to low IQ.Sure, imperialism and colonialism are not really accountable influences.
It is not like Africa is in the state it is, because Europe pushed them that way.Two side notes:1.
The only thing an IQ test measures reliably is how good you are at solving IQ tests.2.
Indians and Arabs created the base of our math.
Just take a look at Fibonaccis biography
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663217</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664081</id>
	<title>Portable Wikipedia?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247314200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does Portable Wikipedia help?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does Portable Wikipedia help ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does Portable Wikipedia help?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663403</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>tsj5j</author>
	<datestamp>1247308380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Things may be different where you are, but there ARE places with people who are poor in rural areas.
There ARE also people who are illiterate (can speak, can't read, fyi).

Whilst (nearly) everyone who needs to search will have access to a telephone or at least a payphone, the same cannot be said of computers.
And telephone companies aren't willing to configure an internet connection (even dialup, maybe?) for such low demand.

This is a decent idea, but there must be sufficient publicity first.
For those who can't access computers probably would find it challenging to chance upon this service.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Things may be different where you are , but there ARE places with people who are poor in rural areas .
There ARE also people who are illiterate ( can speak , ca n't read , fyi ) .
Whilst ( nearly ) everyone who needs to search will have access to a telephone or at least a payphone , the same can not be said of computers .
And telephone companies are n't willing to configure an internet connection ( even dialup , maybe ?
) for such low demand .
This is a decent idea , but there must be sufficient publicity first .
For those who ca n't access computers probably would find it challenging to chance upon this service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Things may be different where you are, but there ARE places with people who are poor in rural areas.
There ARE also people who are illiterate (can speak, can't read, fyi).
Whilst (nearly) everyone who needs to search will have access to a telephone or at least a payphone, the same cannot be said of computers.
And telephone companies aren't willing to configure an internet connection (even dialup, maybe?
) for such low demand.
This is a decent idea, but there must be sufficient publicity first.
For those who can't access computers probably would find it challenging to chance upon this service.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28662989</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28665005</id>
	<title>Re:And what does the local wise elder say to this?</title>
	<author>lokedhs</author>
	<datestamp>1247327580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What if you gave the box to the elder? That way he'd still be relaying the information?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What if you gave the box to the elder ?
That way he 'd still be relaying the information ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if you gave the box to the elder?
That way he'd still be relaying the information?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28665517</id>
	<title>Re:Philosophic questions...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247335980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're illiterate, they're not retarded.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're illiterate , they 're not retarded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're illiterate, they're not retarded.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664095</id>
	<title>China and Uganda?</title>
	<author>beckett</author>
	<datestamp>1247314380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know this is just a project in its infancy, and <a href="http://allafrica.com/stories/200906180331.html" title="allafrica.com">given</a> [allafrica.com] the <a href="http://www.globalization-africa.org/papers/81.pdf" title="globalization-africa.org">recent intimacy</a> [globalization-africa.org] of <a href="http://www.china.org.cn/english/features/focac/183409.htm" title="china.org.cn">Uganda-Chinese relations</a> [china.org.cn], would a Googlebox built in by Chinese contractor be able to look up topics like Democracy or demonstration?  Question Box has powerful potential; i wonder how vulnerable the box answers are to coercion, and whether deployment will be hindered by increasing foreign influence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know this is just a project in its infancy , and given [ allafrica.com ] the recent intimacy [ globalization-africa.org ] of Uganda-Chinese relations [ china.org.cn ] , would a Googlebox built in by Chinese contractor be able to look up topics like Democracy or demonstration ?
Question Box has powerful potential ; i wonder how vulnerable the box answers are to coercion , and whether deployment will be hindered by increasing foreign influence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know this is just a project in its infancy, and given [allafrica.com] the recent intimacy [globalization-africa.org] of Uganda-Chinese relations [china.org.cn], would a Googlebox built in by Chinese contractor be able to look up topics like Democracy or demonstration?
Question Box has powerful potential; i wonder how vulnerable the box answers are to coercion, and whether deployment will be hindered by increasing foreign influence.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663757</id>
	<title>This answer is sponsored by Coca-Cola...</title>
	<author>olsmeister</author>
	<datestamp>1247311140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your answer will be read after you listen to this short advertisement.

You know it's just a matter of time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your answer will be read after you listen to this short advertisement .
You know it 's just a matter of time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your answer will be read after you listen to this short advertisement.
You know it's just a matter of time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28666447</id>
	<title>Re:The problem is African IQ.</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1247400120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Give me 2 months and I'll increase the IQ of any normal person by at least 20 points (provided they're not already "trained", see below).</p><p>IQ tests can be trained, just like any test. They are biased towards logical and analytical thinking and the ability to abstract. This is why programmers and other analytical people usually score higher even without any training.</p><p>To claim that IQ is somehow "genetic" is BS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Give me 2 months and I 'll increase the IQ of any normal person by at least 20 points ( provided they 're not already " trained " , see below ) .IQ tests can be trained , just like any test .
They are biased towards logical and analytical thinking and the ability to abstract .
This is why programmers and other analytical people usually score higher even without any training.To claim that IQ is somehow " genetic " is BS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give me 2 months and I'll increase the IQ of any normal person by at least 20 points (provided they're not already "trained", see below).IQ tests can be trained, just like any test.
They are biased towards logical and analytical thinking and the ability to abstract.
This is why programmers and other analytical people usually score higher even without any training.To claim that IQ is somehow "genetic" is BS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663217</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664039</id>
	<title>Re:FP</title>
	<author>brasselv</author>
	<datestamp>1247313720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there a way to configure<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. so that ALL first posts are automatically hidden?<br>If not, this is a feature request.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there a way to configure / .
so that ALL first posts are automatically hidden ? If not , this is a feature request .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there a way to configure /.
so that ALL first posts are automatically hidden?If not, this is a feature request.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28662921</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663569</id>
	<title>Just Call ChaCha</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1247309460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe they also take phone requests.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe they also take phone requests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe they also take phone requests.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28676231</id>
	<title>Re:better than sneaker net</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1247499840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I was a kid, we called this technology the "telephone."</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was a kid , we called this technology the " telephone .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was a kid, we called this technology the "telephone.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663069</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28666509</id>
	<title>Re:A subtle point</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1247401140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They don't want to go on the internet. They probably don't know what it is and don't even want to know.</p><p>But they have questions and they want answers. Information is valuable, no matter where you are or what you do. The information that's valuable would be very different, granted. To you, the information how some stock options are doing might be valuable, for a villager in the middle of Africa, probably less so. But he'd sure want to know whether there's gonna be rain in the next few days or whether it's a good idea to start harvesting now or in a week.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't want to go on the internet .
They probably do n't know what it is and do n't even want to know.But they have questions and they want answers .
Information is valuable , no matter where you are or what you do .
The information that 's valuable would be very different , granted .
To you , the information how some stock options are doing might be valuable , for a villager in the middle of Africa , probably less so .
But he 'd sure want to know whether there 's gon na be rain in the next few days or whether it 's a good idea to start harvesting now or in a week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't want to go on the internet.
They probably don't know what it is and don't even want to know.But they have questions and they want answers.
Information is valuable, no matter where you are or what you do.
The information that's valuable would be very different, granted.
To you, the information how some stock options are doing might be valuable, for a villager in the middle of Africa, probably less so.
But he'd sure want to know whether there's gonna be rain in the next few days or whether it's a good idea to start harvesting now or in a week.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663389</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28669089</id>
	<title>Re:Don't freaking underestimate people!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247430360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No one said these people are too "dumb" to use the internet or a computer. They don't have electricity in their remote areas, so they are going to find it pretty difficult to use your "very sturdy computer with Internet access in a room."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No one said these people are too " dumb " to use the internet or a computer .
They do n't have electricity in their remote areas , so they are going to find it pretty difficult to use your " very sturdy computer with Internet access in a room .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one said these people are too "dumb" to use the internet or a computer.
They don't have electricity in their remote areas, so they are going to find it pretty difficult to use your "very sturdy computer with Internet access in a room.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664895</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663171</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe I'm just being too cynical...</title>
	<author>tsalmark</author>
	<datestamp>1247306760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>A number of those questions are pressing to these people. Paddy farming seems obvious to me. Train schedules, well, it is probably best to arrive at the train station on the right day, so as not to waste a week waiting for the train. knowing Commodity prices would also be fairly important for making farm decisions. I am generally suspicious of high tech going in places where it would be over kill, but I don;t think this is one of those times. This does seem like it is a good match of effort spent<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/value provided</htmltext>
<tokenext>A number of those questions are pressing to these people .
Paddy farming seems obvious to me .
Train schedules , well , it is probably best to arrive at the train station on the right day , so as not to waste a week waiting for the train .
knowing Commodity prices would also be fairly important for making farm decisions .
I am generally suspicious of high tech going in places where it would be over kill , but I don ; t think this is one of those times .
This does seem like it is a good match of effort spent /value provided</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A number of those questions are pressing to these people.
Paddy farming seems obvious to me.
Train schedules, well, it is probably best to arrive at the train station on the right day, so as not to waste a week waiting for the train.
knowing Commodity prices would also be fairly important for making farm decisions.
I am generally suspicious of high tech going in places where it would be over kill, but I don;t think this is one of those times.
This does seem like it is a good match of effort spent /value provided</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663055</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663593</id>
	<title>Where I come from we call that a "Librarian"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247309640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>In most Canadian cities you can just <a href="http://www.vpl.ca/library/cat/C451/" title="www.vpl.ca">call your local public library</a> [www.vpl.ca] with a simple question and they'll look it up for you.  <br> <br>

Yeah, libraries are <b>so</b> pre-digital.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In most Canadian cities you can just call your local public library [ www.vpl.ca ] with a simple question and they 'll look it up for you .
Yeah , libraries are so pre-digital .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In most Canadian cities you can just call your local public library [www.vpl.ca] with a simple question and they'll look it up for you.
Yeah, libraries are so pre-digital.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28666119</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>thomasw\_lrd</author>
	<datestamp>1247393160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except that Africa has over 2000 spoken languages.  So some people still won't be able to use it.</p><p><a href="http://www.wisegeek.com/how-many-languages-are-spoken-in-africa.htm" title="wisegeek.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wisegeek.com/how-many-languages-are-spoken-in-africa.htm</a> [wisegeek.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that Africa has over 2000 spoken languages .
So some people still wo n't be able to use it.http : //www.wisegeek.com/how-many-languages-are-spoken-in-africa.htm [ wisegeek.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that Africa has over 2000 spoken languages.
So some people still won't be able to use it.http://www.wisegeek.com/how-many-languages-are-spoken-in-africa.htm [wisegeek.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663041</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663257</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe I'm just being too cynical...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247307300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't see any practical use the a farmer would have for "paddy farming advice... train schedules, commodity prices, or personal loans"! </p><p>If we've learned one thing in Africa, it's that dropping a bunch of 'better agricultural tools' into a remote village works for about a year until they break.  The people need access to information so they can learn about the tools and develop their own.  Imagine dropping a computer off at Grandma's house and saying "this should make your life MUCH easier" and then leaving...  She needs information in an accessible medium more than the tool itself.</p><p>As for proper training, Voice-Googling advice on "paddy farming techniques" is going to reach a lot of people for less money than sending teachers.  Culturally, ownership of the information-to-practice process will probably mean more effective application than someone showing up and saying "You're doing it wrong!"</p><p>And lastly, I can't imagine what use those dirty savages would have for homework help and exam results!</p><p>/Posted AC for fear of sarcasm-deaf mods</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't see any practical use the a farmer would have for " paddy farming advice... train schedules , commodity prices , or personal loans " !
If we 've learned one thing in Africa , it 's that dropping a bunch of 'better agricultural tools ' into a remote village works for about a year until they break .
The people need access to information so they can learn about the tools and develop their own .
Imagine dropping a computer off at Grandma 's house and saying " this should make your life MUCH easier " and then leaving... She needs information in an accessible medium more than the tool itself.As for proper training , Voice-Googling advice on " paddy farming techniques " is going to reach a lot of people for less money than sending teachers .
Culturally , ownership of the information-to-practice process will probably mean more effective application than someone showing up and saying " You 're doing it wrong !
" And lastly , I ca n't imagine what use those dirty savages would have for homework help and exam results ! /Posted AC for fear of sarcasm-deaf mods</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't see any practical use the a farmer would have for "paddy farming advice... train schedules, commodity prices, or personal loans"!
If we've learned one thing in Africa, it's that dropping a bunch of 'better agricultural tools' into a remote village works for about a year until they break.
The people need access to information so they can learn about the tools and develop their own.
Imagine dropping a computer off at Grandma's house and saying "this should make your life MUCH easier" and then leaving...  She needs information in an accessible medium more than the tool itself.As for proper training, Voice-Googling advice on "paddy farming techniques" is going to reach a lot of people for less money than sending teachers.
Culturally, ownership of the information-to-practice process will probably mean more effective application than someone showing up and saying "You're doing it wrong!
"And lastly, I can't imagine what use those dirty savages would have for homework help and exam results!/Posted AC for fear of sarcasm-deaf mods</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663055</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663573</id>
	<title>The problem is statistical illiteracy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247309460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if the difference in IQ were true and scientifically verifiable, there is still a bell curve for intelligence distribution.  Which means that there are still millions of Africans (and African Americans) who are higher IQs than millions of European-Americans.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Perhaps the endless, permanent 2000-year-old European civil war (currently in remission for the past 60 years, but not over by any definition) has had the effect of killing off all the tranparently stupid white people in young adulthood.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; There has been only one instance in history where the European people have put aside their inflated differences and have been able to live together in relative peace with each other for a long period of time.  That instance is the United States.  And the USA is populated by people who were more or less thrown out of their origin countries by their social superiors.  It was always the stupid, ugly, backward, and embarrassing people who were 'encouraged' to emigrate to America by the better class of Europeans.  The useless dregs with the low IQs.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; As for the accomplishments of the Germans, I have several Jewish friends who would disagree with the notion of German cultural, moral, and social superiority.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; See if you can guess why?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if the difference in IQ were true and scientifically verifiable , there is still a bell curve for intelligence distribution .
Which means that there are still millions of Africans ( and African Americans ) who are higher IQs than millions of European-Americans .
    Perhaps the endless , permanent 2000-year-old European civil war ( currently in remission for the past 60 years , but not over by any definition ) has had the effect of killing off all the tranparently stupid white people in young adulthood .
    There has been only one instance in history where the European people have put aside their inflated differences and have been able to live together in relative peace with each other for a long period of time .
That instance is the United States .
And the USA is populated by people who were more or less thrown out of their origin countries by their social superiors .
It was always the stupid , ugly , backward , and embarrassing people who were 'encouraged ' to emigrate to America by the better class of Europeans .
The useless dregs with the low IQs .
    As for the accomplishments of the Germans , I have several Jewish friends who would disagree with the notion of German cultural , moral , and social superiority .
    See if you can guess why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if the difference in IQ were true and scientifically verifiable, there is still a bell curve for intelligence distribution.
Which means that there are still millions of Africans (and African Americans) who are higher IQs than millions of European-Americans.
    Perhaps the endless, permanent 2000-year-old European civil war (currently in remission for the past 60 years, but not over by any definition) has had the effect of killing off all the tranparently stupid white people in young adulthood.
    There has been only one instance in history where the European people have put aside their inflated differences and have been able to live together in relative peace with each other for a long period of time.
That instance is the United States.
And the USA is populated by people who were more or less thrown out of their origin countries by their social superiors.
It was always the stupid, ugly, backward, and embarrassing people who were 'encouraged' to emigrate to America by the better class of Europeans.
The useless dregs with the low IQs.
    As for the accomplishments of the Germans, I have several Jewish friends who would disagree with the notion of German cultural, moral, and social superiority.
    See if you can guess why?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28672105</id>
	<title>Re:The problem is African IQ.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247414280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You read a post full of insanity and the part you call out is nuclear power, which in some situations remains probably the cleanest form of energy we currently have available.  There is a difference between absolute clean and cleaner.</p><p>Fossil fuels are obviously horrifically dirty and many are more radioactive than Nuclear plants.<br>Hydroelectric is location-constrained and actually damn bad for the environment, and anyway we're nearing 100\% capacity in a lot of places with the highest demand.<br>Solar is location-constrained and time-constrained and unreliable, and manufacturing the cells is problematic, although it's improving.<br>Geothermal is a fantastic source, but extremely location-constrained.  If you use something like a volcano, then it's prone to rare sudden catastrophic failure<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D.<br>Wind power is somewhat location-constrianed and very unreliable, but per windmill, quite clean.  Unfortunately it has problems in bulk, but the new offshore stuff is extremely interesting for people near enough such a shore that transmission costs don't overwrite it.<br>Tidal has location problems and a sort of mini-seasonality.<br>Biofuel is land-intensive and so has unfortunate social side-effects on the price of food and water and other goods that disproportionately affects those who have not the means to endure (the poor), although maybe we can work on that.</p><p>The proper solution varies by geography.  Wherever you can get a good constant geothermal source (with low chance of accident and a cost that isn't prohibitive) for some or all baseload power, take advantage.  Windy open place with nobody around?  Put up windmills!  They may also be good roadside even if it isn't that windy for carside energy sources if we one day move to something like hydrogen or chemical battery fueled transportation.  Live in a desert with low dust movement and cloud cover?  Solar farm -- if you aren't concerned by the potential local increase in temperature and its effects on wind patterns, anyway.</p><p>Need a *lot* of baseload power in a geologically stable location where renewables cannot meet your needs?  That's where Nuclear comes in.</p><p>Maybe next time just call him on the racist bullshit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You read a post full of insanity and the part you call out is nuclear power , which in some situations remains probably the cleanest form of energy we currently have available .
There is a difference between absolute clean and cleaner.Fossil fuels are obviously horrifically dirty and many are more radioactive than Nuclear plants.Hydroelectric is location-constrained and actually damn bad for the environment , and anyway we 're nearing 100 \ % capacity in a lot of places with the highest demand.Solar is location-constrained and time-constrained and unreliable , and manufacturing the cells is problematic , although it 's improving.Geothermal is a fantastic source , but extremely location-constrained .
If you use something like a volcano , then it 's prone to rare sudden catastrophic failure : D.Wind power is somewhat location-constrianed and very unreliable , but per windmill , quite clean .
Unfortunately it has problems in bulk , but the new offshore stuff is extremely interesting for people near enough such a shore that transmission costs do n't overwrite it.Tidal has location problems and a sort of mini-seasonality.Biofuel is land-intensive and so has unfortunate social side-effects on the price of food and water and other goods that disproportionately affects those who have not the means to endure ( the poor ) , although maybe we can work on that.The proper solution varies by geography .
Wherever you can get a good constant geothermal source ( with low chance of accident and a cost that is n't prohibitive ) for some or all baseload power , take advantage .
Windy open place with nobody around ?
Put up windmills !
They may also be good roadside even if it is n't that windy for carside energy sources if we one day move to something like hydrogen or chemical battery fueled transportation .
Live in a desert with low dust movement and cloud cover ?
Solar farm -- if you are n't concerned by the potential local increase in temperature and its effects on wind patterns , anyway.Need a * lot * of baseload power in a geologically stable location where renewables can not meet your needs ?
That 's where Nuclear comes in.Maybe next time just call him on the racist bullshit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You read a post full of insanity and the part you call out is nuclear power, which in some situations remains probably the cleanest form of energy we currently have available.
There is a difference between absolute clean and cleaner.Fossil fuels are obviously horrifically dirty and many are more radioactive than Nuclear plants.Hydroelectric is location-constrained and actually damn bad for the environment, and anyway we're nearing 100\% capacity in a lot of places with the highest demand.Solar is location-constrained and time-constrained and unreliable, and manufacturing the cells is problematic, although it's improving.Geothermal is a fantastic source, but extremely location-constrained.
If you use something like a volcano, then it's prone to rare sudden catastrophic failure :D.Wind power is somewhat location-constrianed and very unreliable, but per windmill, quite clean.
Unfortunately it has problems in bulk, but the new offshore stuff is extremely interesting for people near enough such a shore that transmission costs don't overwrite it.Tidal has location problems and a sort of mini-seasonality.Biofuel is land-intensive and so has unfortunate social side-effects on the price of food and water and other goods that disproportionately affects those who have not the means to endure (the poor), although maybe we can work on that.The proper solution varies by geography.
Wherever you can get a good constant geothermal source (with low chance of accident and a cost that isn't prohibitive) for some or all baseload power, take advantage.
Windy open place with nobody around?
Put up windmills!
They may also be good roadside even if it isn't that windy for carside energy sources if we one day move to something like hydrogen or chemical battery fueled transportation.
Live in a desert with low dust movement and cloud cover?
Solar farm -- if you aren't concerned by the potential local increase in temperature and its effects on wind patterns, anyway.Need a *lot* of baseload power in a geologically stable location where renewables cannot meet your needs?
That's where Nuclear comes in.Maybe next time just call him on the racist bullshit.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663477</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>Swizec</author>
	<datestamp>1247308800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
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	<htmltext>They live in tribes and use stone-age technology. That makes them stoneage tribesmen, no matter the cause. It doesn't matter why they live in such conditions, but if nobody would recognise them as such, nobody would help them improve their technological savvy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They live in tribes and use stone-age technology .
That makes them stoneage tribesmen , no matter the cause .
It does n't matter why they live in such conditions , but if nobody would recognise them as such , nobody would help them improve their technological savvy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They live in tribes and use stone-age technology.
That makes them stoneage tribesmen, no matter the cause.
It doesn't matter why they live in such conditions, but if nobody would recognise them as such, nobody would help them improve their technological savvy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663841</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe I'm just being too cynical...</title>
	<author>nethenson</author>
	<datestamp>1247311980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext>And this list of questions is, by itself, a very valuable thing.
<br>
It is a great tool for detecting the areas where more education is needed and the trends of what is happening, and is also a good starting point for the NGOs to make their plans
<br>
Maybe it is time to include a lawyer in the NGO team to help the book writers, or to start promoting education about constipation prevention...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>And this list of questions is , by itself , a very valuable thing .
It is a great tool for detecting the areas where more education is needed and the trends of what is happening , and is also a good starting point for the NGOs to make their plans Maybe it is time to include a lawyer in the NGO team to help the book writers , or to start promoting education about constipation prevention... : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this list of questions is, by itself, a very valuable thing.
It is a great tool for detecting the areas where more education is needed and the trends of what is happening, and is also a good starting point for the NGOs to make their plans

Maybe it is time to include a lawyer in the NGO team to help the book writers, or to start promoting education about constipation prevention... :)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664803</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe I'm just being too cynical...</title>
	<author>rohan972</author>
	<datestamp>1247323680000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>.. but I'd be willing to wager the 'poor people' referred to by the OP have far more pressing questions that a device such as this one is basically useless for, like "What the hell am I going to eat today?".</p></div><p>How about, how am I going to eat in 3 months, next year. Some of the poorest people are subsistence farmers, they "budget" by the year, not the day, planting crops in the growing season, harvesting in season, allocating a portion of the harvest for personal consumption, a portion for re-planting, what's left is available for sale. Such people would tend to be considerably more forward thinking than many western wage earners who only think as far as next weeks paycheque.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>"The users ask a wide range of questions, including cricket scores, <b>paddy farming advice</b>, codes to download songs on their mobiles, <b>homework questions, University exam results, train schedules, commodity prices, and where to get a personal loan</b>."</p></div><p>Can you spot any searches there that would help them provide food for themselves or produce saleable product, increase their education to be more productive, find transport to higher priced markets to sell their goods, find where higher priced markets are for their commodity produce or obtain finance to fund their productive endeavours?</p></div>
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<tokenext>.. but I 'd be willing to wager the 'poor people ' referred to by the OP have far more pressing questions that a device such as this one is basically useless for , like " What the hell am I going to eat today ?
" .How about , how am I going to eat in 3 months , next year .
Some of the poorest people are subsistence farmers , they " budget " by the year , not the day , planting crops in the growing season , harvesting in season , allocating a portion of the harvest for personal consumption , a portion for re-planting , what 's left is available for sale .
Such people would tend to be considerably more forward thinking than many western wage earners who only think as far as next weeks paycheque .
" The users ask a wide range of questions , including cricket scores , paddy farming advice , codes to download songs on their mobiles , homework questions , University exam results , train schedules , commodity prices , and where to get a personal loan .
" Can you spot any searches there that would help them provide food for themselves or produce saleable product , increase their education to be more productive , find transport to higher priced markets to sell their goods , find where higher priced markets are for their commodity produce or obtain finance to fund their productive endeavours ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> .. but I'd be willing to wager the 'poor people' referred to by the OP have far more pressing questions that a device such as this one is basically useless for, like "What the hell am I going to eat today?
".How about, how am I going to eat in 3 months, next year.
Some of the poorest people are subsistence farmers, they "budget" by the year, not the day, planting crops in the growing season, harvesting in season, allocating a portion of the harvest for personal consumption, a portion for re-planting, what's left is available for sale.
Such people would tend to be considerably more forward thinking than many western wage earners who only think as far as next weeks paycheque.
"The users ask a wide range of questions, including cricket scores, paddy farming advice, codes to download songs on their mobiles, homework questions, University exam results, train schedules, commodity prices, and where to get a personal loan.
"Can you spot any searches there that would help them provide food for themselves or produce saleable product, increase their education to be more productive, find transport to higher priced markets to sell their goods, find where higher priced markets are for their commodity produce or obtain finance to fund their productive endeavours?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663903</id>
	<title>Philosophic questions...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247312460000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>This could be fun, imagine for a moment:<br>
person:  what is the meaning of life?<br>
operator: 42<br>
person Takes the word of operator as gospal, due to the lack of a certain book, concequently spewing false beliefs around a village. Who is going to stop the information from being read out of context?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This could be fun , imagine for a moment : person : what is the meaning of life ?
operator : 42 person Takes the word of operator as gospal , due to the lack of a certain book , concequently spewing false beliefs around a village .
Who is going to stop the information from being read out of context ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This could be fun, imagine for a moment:
person:  what is the meaning of life?
operator: 42
person Takes the word of operator as gospal, due to the lack of a certain book, concequently spewing false beliefs around a village.
Who is going to stop the information from being read out of context?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663139</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe I'm just being too cynical...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247306460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Current posts on World Wants to Know:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>2301. What is the use of melanine in humans?<br>2300. what proceedures must a person go through to hold patent rights when he wants to produce a book?<br>2299. what are the causes and control of constipation?<br>2298. are telephone masts hazardous to human health<br>2297. What is the cause and control of constipation?<br>2296. what is the least sparse district in uganda<br>2295. what are the best varieties of beans to plant<br>2294. what are the signs and syptoms of swine flu in human beings<br>2293. when was the uganda railway line built?<br>2292. what food values are got from eating jackfruits?</p></div><p>Sounds like they're getting useful information to me.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Current posts on World Wants to Know : 2301 .
What is the use of melanine in humans ? 2300 .
what proceedures must a person go through to hold patent rights when he wants to produce a book ? 2299 .
what are the causes and control of constipation ? 2298 .
are telephone masts hazardous to human health2297 .
What is the cause and control of constipation ? 2296 .
what is the least sparse district in uganda2295 .
what are the best varieties of beans to plant2294 .
what are the signs and syptoms of swine flu in human beings2293 .
when was the uganda railway line built ? 2292 .
what food values are got from eating jackfruits ? Sounds like they 're getting useful information to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Current posts on World Wants to Know:2301.
What is the use of melanine in humans?2300.
what proceedures must a person go through to hold patent rights when he wants to produce a book?2299.
what are the causes and control of constipation?2298.
are telephone masts hazardous to human health2297.
What is the cause and control of constipation?2296.
what is the least sparse district in uganda2295.
what are the best varieties of beans to plant2294.
what are the signs and syptoms of swine flu in human beings2293.
when was the uganda railway line built?2292.
what food values are got from eating jackfruits?Sounds like they're getting useful information to me.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664979</id>
	<title>Reminds Me of a Terrific Movie</title>
	<author>BBCWatcher</author>
	<datestamp>1247326980000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>"<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desk\_Set" title="wikipedia.org">Desk Set</a> [wikipedia.org]," with Hepburn and Tracy. I suspect it's no different in 2009: trained reference experts answer the questions, and Google is just their new stack of reference books. Somewhere Hepburn and Tracy are smiling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Desk Set [ wikipedia.org ] , " with Hepburn and Tracy .
I suspect it 's no different in 2009 : trained reference experts answer the questions , and Google is just their new stack of reference books .
Somewhere Hepburn and Tracy are smiling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Desk Set [wikipedia.org]," with Hepburn and Tracy.
I suspect it's no different in 2009: trained reference experts answer the questions, and Google is just their new stack of reference books.
Somewhere Hepburn and Tracy are smiling.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28666409</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1247399040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're dealing with an upside down world there. Operators are cheap, computers are expensive. Add to this that something "good enough" for voice com isn't necessarily good enough for data com ("Hello *crackle* I'd like to *static*, could you look up fo*crackle, faint humming in the background for the next 10 seconds* me...") and you might see why this is actually a pretty good idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're dealing with an upside down world there .
Operators are cheap , computers are expensive .
Add to this that something " good enough " for voice com is n't necessarily good enough for data com ( " Hello * crackle * I 'd like to * static * , could you look up fo * crackle , faint humming in the background for the next 10 seconds * me... " ) and you might see why this is actually a pretty good idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're dealing with an upside down world there.
Operators are cheap, computers are expensive.
Add to this that something "good enough" for voice com isn't necessarily good enough for data com ("Hello *crackle* I'd like to *static*, could you look up fo*crackle, faint humming in the background for the next 10 seconds* me...") and you might see why this is actually a pretty good idea.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663359</id>
	<title>And what does the local wise elder say to this?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247308020000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Villagers used to come to him, give a small offering, ask a question, and get some advice.
</p><p>Now the villagers go to the box that the government provided.  This is a direct attack on his power.
</p><p>Want to bet that these boxes will be blamed for next year's poor harvest?
</p><p>No matter how primitive, people fight like hell to have a monopoly on information and power.  More developed nations play the same game at a different level.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Villagers used to come to him , give a small offering , ask a question , and get some advice .
Now the villagers go to the box that the government provided .
This is a direct attack on his power .
Want to bet that these boxes will be blamed for next year 's poor harvest ?
No matter how primitive , people fight like hell to have a monopoly on information and power .
More developed nations play the same game at a different level .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Villagers used to come to him, give a small offering, ask a question, and get some advice.
Now the villagers go to the box that the government provided.
This is a direct attack on his power.
Want to bet that these boxes will be blamed for next year's poor harvest?
No matter how primitive, people fight like hell to have a monopoly on information and power.
More developed nations play the same game at a different level.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28666467</id>
	<title>Re:And what does the local wise elder say to this?</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1247400480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What do you want to bet that the elder has that magical talking box in his hut now and speaks to the ancients that way instead of dancing for trance?</p><p>Just to stay in your "primitive savages" parallel. Ya know, even Africa managed to get out of the times that we happen to see on National Geographics every now and then...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What do you want to bet that the elder has that magical talking box in his hut now and speaks to the ancients that way instead of dancing for trance ? Just to stay in your " primitive savages " parallel .
Ya know , even Africa managed to get out of the times that we happen to see on National Geographics every now and then.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do you want to bet that the elder has that magical talking box in his hut now and speaks to the ancients that way instead of dancing for trance?Just to stay in your "primitive savages" parallel.
Ya know, even Africa managed to get out of the times that we happen to see on National Geographics every now and then...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664895</id>
	<title>Don't freaking underestimate people!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247325060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People are not even remotely as dumb as this paints them!</p><p>One experiment shows that nicely: Someone set up a tablet PC with an Internet connection on a wall of an Indian slum, some years ago.<br>After some weeks, they were browsing the web, watching videos on Youtube, etc.</p><p>Interestingly, being that supportive of stupidity is more a "civilized world" thing.<br>If you're stupid in some hard place like a slum, in the middle of Africa, or on the mountains of South America, you won't get far. But this does not mean that people will not get far. It means that they expect themselves to come up with a solution, because they have to.</p><p>While here when we fail, we get a support here, a help there, and an assistance to wipe our asses. And naturally we begin to also expect it. I know so many people who just state that they are dumb. Because then someone else helps them, and life is easy. This is efficient *for them*, so why not?</p><p>But in these remote areas, I recommend just putting a very sturdy computer with Internet access in a room, so that it can not break or get dirty that quick, and then let people play with it. Let them try it out.<br>I'd bet money that before your know it, they will know how to use that thing, and get out of it what they want.<br>You will watch things, like a kid playing with it all day long, and the parents and friends then asking if the kid could find something for them. Etc.</p><p>I have trust in humanity, because of one simple fact: When life is hard, we excel in coming up with solutions that help us survive. And we hold that skill up very high, in so many movies, games, stories, etc, etc, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People are not even remotely as dumb as this paints them ! One experiment shows that nicely : Someone set up a tablet PC with an Internet connection on a wall of an Indian slum , some years ago.After some weeks , they were browsing the web , watching videos on Youtube , etc.Interestingly , being that supportive of stupidity is more a " civilized world " thing.If you 're stupid in some hard place like a slum , in the middle of Africa , or on the mountains of South America , you wo n't get far .
But this does not mean that people will not get far .
It means that they expect themselves to come up with a solution , because they have to.While here when we fail , we get a support here , a help there , and an assistance to wipe our asses .
And naturally we begin to also expect it .
I know so many people who just state that they are dumb .
Because then someone else helps them , and life is easy .
This is efficient * for them * , so why not ? But in these remote areas , I recommend just putting a very sturdy computer with Internet access in a room , so that it can not break or get dirty that quick , and then let people play with it .
Let them try it out.I 'd bet money that before your know it , they will know how to use that thing , and get out of it what they want.You will watch things , like a kid playing with it all day long , and the parents and friends then asking if the kid could find something for them .
Etc.I have trust in humanity , because of one simple fact : When life is hard , we excel in coming up with solutions that help us survive .
And we hold that skill up very high , in so many movies , games , stories , etc , etc , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People are not even remotely as dumb as this paints them!One experiment shows that nicely: Someone set up a tablet PC with an Internet connection on a wall of an Indian slum, some years ago.After some weeks, they were browsing the web, watching videos on Youtube, etc.Interestingly, being that supportive of stupidity is more a "civilized world" thing.If you're stupid in some hard place like a slum, in the middle of Africa, or on the mountains of South America, you won't get far.
But this does not mean that people will not get far.
It means that they expect themselves to come up with a solution, because they have to.While here when we fail, we get a support here, a help there, and an assistance to wipe our asses.
And naturally we begin to also expect it.
I know so many people who just state that they are dumb.
Because then someone else helps them, and life is easy.
This is efficient *for them*, so why not?But in these remote areas, I recommend just putting a very sturdy computer with Internet access in a room, so that it can not break or get dirty that quick, and then let people play with it.
Let them try it out.I'd bet money that before your know it, they will know how to use that thing, and get out of it what they want.You will watch things, like a kid playing with it all day long, and the parents and friends then asking if the kid could find something for them.
Etc.I have trust in humanity, because of one simple fact: When life is hard, we excel in coming up with solutions that help us survive.
And we hold that skill up very high, in so many movies, games, stories, etc, etc, etc.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664473</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe I'm just being too cynical...</title>
	<author>JaredOfEuropa</author>
	<datestamp>1247318280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Honestly, while I think these 'feel-good' devices are a fantastic way for their creators and their well-heeled supporters to feel like 'they're making a difference', ultimately they're pretty much worthless in general practice.</p></div></blockquote><p>

I used to feel the same way when reading about the proliferation of cell phones in rural areas in African countries.  The last thing they need is those bloody expensive luxury items, right?  But, as it turns out, cell phones provide a similar and highly useful type of service, and allows people in out of the way areas to get information on farming and diseases, food and crop prices at various markets.  Already this is changing the way food is grown and sold.<br> <br>
And what is so bad about finding out about train schedules?  Who wants to waste 3 days waiting after missing a train?  People moving crops or who are otherwise working hard to feed a family can't afford to waste those three days, probably less so than you or me.  Personal loans?  Unlike loans in the West, these will probably not go towards a down payment on an SUV or a swimming pool, but more likely will be spent on essential farming tools, or perhaps as seed capital for a small business.  That's what this microcredit stuff is all about... I think it's great if a tool like this makes such efforts available to a wider audience.
<br> <br>
Providing tools and seeds rarely helps and often destroys local markets.  That is the real "feel good" stuff.  There are many of such fancy and widely applauded aid programmes... please go see what became of similar programmes that were implemented 10 years ago.  Broken pumps, broken tractors that cannot be repaired locally, once immaculate white school buildings, still waiting for those first teachers and those first books, pencils and blackboards to arrive.  That's what you will find.
<br> <br>
Real aid is helping people to help themselves.  Access to information might seem unimportant to developing nations but it has already been proven to be a game changer right down to local villagers.  Don't expect them to ask only earth-shatteringly insightful questions through this thing either, and certainly do not berate them for using it for entertainment purposes as well.  These are people like you and me, not some hunger-crazed wretches scratching in the dirt for food with no time for anything else.  Moyo said it best when she said: "If you see an African on TV, it's either a fly-ridden victim of famine or war, or.... it's Nelson Mandela".  That is the image that we need to lose... sadly it is precisely that image which fuels the industry called "aid"</p></div>
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<tokenext>Honestly , while I think these 'feel-good ' devices are a fantastic way for their creators and their well-heeled supporters to feel like 'they 're making a difference ' , ultimately they 're pretty much worthless in general practice .
I used to feel the same way when reading about the proliferation of cell phones in rural areas in African countries .
The last thing they need is those bloody expensive luxury items , right ?
But , as it turns out , cell phones provide a similar and highly useful type of service , and allows people in out of the way areas to get information on farming and diseases , food and crop prices at various markets .
Already this is changing the way food is grown and sold .
And what is so bad about finding out about train schedules ?
Who wants to waste 3 days waiting after missing a train ?
People moving crops or who are otherwise working hard to feed a family ca n't afford to waste those three days , probably less so than you or me .
Personal loans ?
Unlike loans in the West , these will probably not go towards a down payment on an SUV or a swimming pool , but more likely will be spent on essential farming tools , or perhaps as seed capital for a small business .
That 's what this microcredit stuff is all about... I think it 's great if a tool like this makes such efforts available to a wider audience .
Providing tools and seeds rarely helps and often destroys local markets .
That is the real " feel good " stuff .
There are many of such fancy and widely applauded aid programmes... please go see what became of similar programmes that were implemented 10 years ago .
Broken pumps , broken tractors that can not be repaired locally , once immaculate white school buildings , still waiting for those first teachers and those first books , pencils and blackboards to arrive .
That 's what you will find .
Real aid is helping people to help themselves .
Access to information might seem unimportant to developing nations but it has already been proven to be a game changer right down to local villagers .
Do n't expect them to ask only earth-shatteringly insightful questions through this thing either , and certainly do not berate them for using it for entertainment purposes as well .
These are people like you and me , not some hunger-crazed wretches scratching in the dirt for food with no time for anything else .
Moyo said it best when she said : " If you see an African on TV , it 's either a fly-ridden victim of famine or war , or.... it 's Nelson Mandela " .
That is the image that we need to lose... sadly it is precisely that image which fuels the industry called " aid "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, while I think these 'feel-good' devices are a fantastic way for their creators and their well-heeled supporters to feel like 'they're making a difference', ultimately they're pretty much worthless in general practice.
I used to feel the same way when reading about the proliferation of cell phones in rural areas in African countries.
The last thing they need is those bloody expensive luxury items, right?
But, as it turns out, cell phones provide a similar and highly useful type of service, and allows people in out of the way areas to get information on farming and diseases, food and crop prices at various markets.
Already this is changing the way food is grown and sold.
And what is so bad about finding out about train schedules?
Who wants to waste 3 days waiting after missing a train?
People moving crops or who are otherwise working hard to feed a family can't afford to waste those three days, probably less so than you or me.
Personal loans?
Unlike loans in the West, these will probably not go towards a down payment on an SUV or a swimming pool, but more likely will be spent on essential farming tools, or perhaps as seed capital for a small business.
That's what this microcredit stuff is all about... I think it's great if a tool like this makes such efforts available to a wider audience.
Providing tools and seeds rarely helps and often destroys local markets.
That is the real "feel good" stuff.
There are many of such fancy and widely applauded aid programmes... please go see what became of similar programmes that were implemented 10 years ago.
Broken pumps, broken tractors that cannot be repaired locally, once immaculate white school buildings, still waiting for those first teachers and those first books, pencils and blackboards to arrive.
That's what you will find.
Real aid is helping people to help themselves.
Access to information might seem unimportant to developing nations but it has already been proven to be a game changer right down to local villagers.
Don't expect them to ask only earth-shatteringly insightful questions through this thing either, and certainly do not berate them for using it for entertainment purposes as well.
These are people like you and me, not some hunger-crazed wretches scratching in the dirt for food with no time for anything else.
Moyo said it best when she said: "If you see an African on TV, it's either a fly-ridden victim of famine or war, or.... it's Nelson Mandela".
That is the image that we need to lose... sadly it is precisely that image which fuels the industry called "aid"
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28665099</id>
	<title>Do you remember...</title>
	<author>oljanx</author>
	<datestamp>1247328960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do you remember a decade and a half past, when you had to unfold a map for directions, tune in at 9 o'clock for the news and open the Yellow Pages for a phone number?  Do you remember when you had to travel to the library and read a book to settle a debate about whether Genghis Khan reigned in the 12th or 13th century?  The tools we have at our disposal today are incredibly powerful.  We take them for granted.

Imagine living in a place where, forget the internet, there is no 9 o'clock news.  And the library, if you can read, is distant and lacking.  Access to the internet, even indirectly, must seem like a damned miracle.  I just hope they don't ask the question box for the answer to life, the universe, and everything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you remember a decade and a half past , when you had to unfold a map for directions , tune in at 9 o'clock for the news and open the Yellow Pages for a phone number ?
Do you remember when you had to travel to the library and read a book to settle a debate about whether Genghis Khan reigned in the 12th or 13th century ?
The tools we have at our disposal today are incredibly powerful .
We take them for granted .
Imagine living in a place where , forget the internet , there is no 9 o'clock news .
And the library , if you can read , is distant and lacking .
Access to the internet , even indirectly , must seem like a damned miracle .
I just hope they do n't ask the question box for the answer to life , the universe , and everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you remember a decade and a half past, when you had to unfold a map for directions, tune in at 9 o'clock for the news and open the Yellow Pages for a phone number?
Do you remember when you had to travel to the library and read a book to settle a debate about whether Genghis Khan reigned in the 12th or 13th century?
The tools we have at our disposal today are incredibly powerful.
We take them for granted.
Imagine living in a place where, forget the internet, there is no 9 o'clock news.
And the library, if you can read, is distant and lacking.
Access to the internet, even indirectly, must seem like a damned miracle.
I just hope they don't ask the question box for the answer to life, the universe, and everything.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664417</id>
	<title>Internet scarce at Google?</title>
	<author>Tubal-Cain</author>
	<datestamp>1247317560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Searching Google, Where Internet Access is Scarce</p></div><p>If Google's having trouble getting internet access, I wonder how Yahoo's holding up...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Searching Google , Where Internet Access is ScarceIf Google 's having trouble getting internet access , I wonder how Yahoo 's holding up.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Searching Google, Where Internet Access is ScarceIf Google's having trouble getting internet access, I wonder how Yahoo's holding up...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663975</id>
	<title>I wonder how these operators are trained</title>
	<author>Phat\_Tony</author>
	<datestamp>1247313000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looking at the questions they're asking, there's obviously a problem here the people asking the questions have no idea what the internet is like, so they don't know what to ask or how to ask it. They don't have the concept of what kind of information you can get off the internet or how you go about finding and vetting it.<br> <br>

For example,<p><div class="quote"><p>2295. what are the best varieties of beans to plant</p></div><p>This is the sort of thing that, traditionally, first-world countries have bureaus of agriculture, county extension services, and agriculture departments at local learning institutions that help farmers with this tricky question. You need information on varieties suited to specific soil, climate and resistant to local pests and diseases and drought, and the question isn't going to gain useful results without more specificity- ie, "best" for what. The advice that comes up in Google offers information primarily aimed at amateur summer gardeners in northern climates trying to grow tasty summer vegetables, rather than equatorial hardy macro-nutrient providing staples. It takes some serious google-fu to arrive at results that are probably useful to this questioner, and you don't get them by entering his question verbatim. When I started Googling things like "bean equatorial resistant hybrid -cocoa -coffee" I started getting some interesting results, but it would still take a while to sort through that stuff and come up with real information on what beans are best-bets wherever he lives. I can't imagine him ending up with useful information off of this Google phone line though. It takes an experienced researcher to find this stuff on Google.<br> <br>
For this sort of thing, the best thing you could probably do with Google is figure out who he should actually be talking to. That is, I Googled "helping african farmers," which led me to <a href="http://www.farmafrica.org.uk/" title="farmafrica.org.uk">Farm Africa.</a> [farmafrica.org.uk] There's probably someone working for them who he could talk to who could really help him out.<br> <br>

This is just one example I went in depth on, but most of the questions are of this nature. For the questions that can be answered easily online, it seems like nine out of ten, the answer is on Wikipedia. I think these people are envisioning the internet as being much more organized, authoritative, and encyclopedic than it is. They have very practical questions, as might be expected from rural, undeveloped areas, and Google is not well designed to provide them with answers to many of them. I wonder to what extent these operators might have already been trained, or might be additionally trained, to hook these people up with non-Google provided information. From what I'm seeing, a huge number of questions could be answered much more effectively if there were any way to provide these people with access to briefly speak to a doctor (or at least a nurse or someone who can answer basic health questions) or an agricultural specialist.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking at the questions they 're asking , there 's obviously a problem here the people asking the questions have no idea what the internet is like , so they do n't know what to ask or how to ask it .
They do n't have the concept of what kind of information you can get off the internet or how you go about finding and vetting it .
For example,2295 .
what are the best varieties of beans to plantThis is the sort of thing that , traditionally , first-world countries have bureaus of agriculture , county extension services , and agriculture departments at local learning institutions that help farmers with this tricky question .
You need information on varieties suited to specific soil , climate and resistant to local pests and diseases and drought , and the question is n't going to gain useful results without more specificity- ie , " best " for what .
The advice that comes up in Google offers information primarily aimed at amateur summer gardeners in northern climates trying to grow tasty summer vegetables , rather than equatorial hardy macro-nutrient providing staples .
It takes some serious google-fu to arrive at results that are probably useful to this questioner , and you do n't get them by entering his question verbatim .
When I started Googling things like " bean equatorial resistant hybrid -cocoa -coffee " I started getting some interesting results , but it would still take a while to sort through that stuff and come up with real information on what beans are best-bets wherever he lives .
I ca n't imagine him ending up with useful information off of this Google phone line though .
It takes an experienced researcher to find this stuff on Google .
For this sort of thing , the best thing you could probably do with Google is figure out who he should actually be talking to .
That is , I Googled " helping african farmers , " which led me to Farm Africa .
[ farmafrica.org.uk ] There 's probably someone working for them who he could talk to who could really help him out .
This is just one example I went in depth on , but most of the questions are of this nature .
For the questions that can be answered easily online , it seems like nine out of ten , the answer is on Wikipedia .
I think these people are envisioning the internet as being much more organized , authoritative , and encyclopedic than it is .
They have very practical questions , as might be expected from rural , undeveloped areas , and Google is not well designed to provide them with answers to many of them .
I wonder to what extent these operators might have already been trained , or might be additionally trained , to hook these people up with non-Google provided information .
From what I 'm seeing , a huge number of questions could be answered much more effectively if there were any way to provide these people with access to briefly speak to a doctor ( or at least a nurse or someone who can answer basic health questions ) or an agricultural specialist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking at the questions they're asking, there's obviously a problem here the people asking the questions have no idea what the internet is like, so they don't know what to ask or how to ask it.
They don't have the concept of what kind of information you can get off the internet or how you go about finding and vetting it.
For example,2295.
what are the best varieties of beans to plantThis is the sort of thing that, traditionally, first-world countries have bureaus of agriculture, county extension services, and agriculture departments at local learning institutions that help farmers with this tricky question.
You need information on varieties suited to specific soil, climate and resistant to local pests and diseases and drought, and the question isn't going to gain useful results without more specificity- ie, "best" for what.
The advice that comes up in Google offers information primarily aimed at amateur summer gardeners in northern climates trying to grow tasty summer vegetables, rather than equatorial hardy macro-nutrient providing staples.
It takes some serious google-fu to arrive at results that are probably useful to this questioner, and you don't get them by entering his question verbatim.
When I started Googling things like "bean equatorial resistant hybrid -cocoa -coffee" I started getting some interesting results, but it would still take a while to sort through that stuff and come up with real information on what beans are best-bets wherever he lives.
I can't imagine him ending up with useful information off of this Google phone line though.
It takes an experienced researcher to find this stuff on Google.
For this sort of thing, the best thing you could probably do with Google is figure out who he should actually be talking to.
That is, I Googled "helping african farmers," which led me to Farm Africa.
[farmafrica.org.uk] There's probably someone working for them who he could talk to who could really help him out.
This is just one example I went in depth on, but most of the questions are of this nature.
For the questions that can be answered easily online, it seems like nine out of ten, the answer is on Wikipedia.
I think these people are envisioning the internet as being much more organized, authoritative, and encyclopedic than it is.
They have very practical questions, as might be expected from rural, undeveloped areas, and Google is not well designed to provide them with answers to many of them.
I wonder to what extent these operators might have already been trained, or might be additionally trained, to hook these people up with non-Google provided information.
From what I'm seeing, a huge number of questions could be answered much more effectively if there were any way to provide these people with access to briefly speak to a doctor (or at least a nurse or someone who can answer basic health questions) or an agricultural specialist.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663145</id>
	<title>What if I asked</title>
	<author>American Terrorist</author>
	<datestamp>1247306460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How much wood would a wood-chuck chuck if a wood-chuck could chuck wood?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How much wood would a wood-chuck chuck if a wood-chuck could chuck wood ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much wood would a wood-chuck chuck if a wood-chuck could chuck wood?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28666335</id>
	<title>Re:I wonder how these operators are trained</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247397660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The operator is not just googling the answer. They now how to route specific kinds of questions. They have knowledge databases tailored for local needs. You can look for details on questionbox's homepage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The operator is not just googling the answer .
They now how to route specific kinds of questions .
They have knowledge databases tailored for local needs .
You can look for details on questionbox 's homepage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The operator is not just googling the answer.
They now how to route specific kinds of questions.
They have knowledge databases tailored for local needs.
You can look for details on questionbox's homepage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28667111</id>
	<title>The First Purpose of Technology...</title>
	<author>netsharc</author>
	<datestamp>1247411700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Hello operator, I heard Megan Fox had a nipple slip..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hello operator , I heard Megan Fox had a nipple slip... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hello operator, I heard Megan Fox had a nipple slip..."</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663343</id>
	<title>Re:The problem is African IQ.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247307900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>true but the question is whether an overall 20 IQ points makes much difference to civilization. i'd argue that it does not.<br>The average IQ may be lower, but educated africans have still managed to pull themselves out of africa and succeed elsewhere<br>in the world. This indicates that once africa is civilized, chances are the educated africans can pull the countries up and keep<br>them there irrespective of the depressed IQ. one can also argue that the extra muscle mass will help africans build structures faster<br>with less effort than western countries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>true but the question is whether an overall 20 IQ points makes much difference to civilization .
i 'd argue that it does not.The average IQ may be lower , but educated africans have still managed to pull themselves out of africa and succeed elsewherein the world .
This indicates that once africa is civilized , chances are the educated africans can pull the countries up and keepthem there irrespective of the depressed IQ .
one can also argue that the extra muscle mass will help africans build structures fasterwith less effort than western countries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>true but the question is whether an overall 20 IQ points makes much difference to civilization.
i'd argue that it does not.The average IQ may be lower, but educated africans have still managed to pull themselves out of africa and succeed elsewherein the world.
This indicates that once africa is civilized, chances are the educated africans can pull the countries up and keepthem there irrespective of the depressed IQ.
one can also argue that the extra muscle mass will help africans build structures fasterwith less effort than western countries.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663253</id>
	<title>Where is the new Development</title>
	<author>tonyr60</author>
	<datestamp>1247307300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My parents and partner use this sort of service all the time, I am the one at the end of the voice communication network.  Kids also use it when lazy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My parents and partner use this sort of service all the time , I am the one at the end of the voice communication network .
Kids also use it when lazy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My parents and partner use this sort of service all the time, I am the one at the end of the voice communication network.
Kids also use it when lazy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663701</id>
	<title>Re:A subtle point</title>
	<author>Phat\_Tony</author>
	<datestamp>1247310600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do you not care at all what the people living there want?<br> <br>
You accuse other slashdotters of having a "missionary complex" and say "you should just leave them the fuck alone."<br> <br>
So, it doesn't matter to you at all what the people living in these places think? If they ask for our help, we should refuse? They might want our help, and we might want to help them, but no, Simonetta knows what's best for all the undeveloped areas of the world, and he says we should "leave them the fuck alone." In addition to technology, I suppose that includes other aid, like trying to dig wells to provide them with clean water? Their ancestor's children have been dying of dysentery for millennia, so we should stop trying to inflict our western anti-dysentery views upon them?<br> <br>
You say "why would anyone in the distant backward village want to go on the internet?" I don't know. Why don't you try using the link to go look at all the questions they're asking.<br> <br>
Unlike missionaries, no one is going into their villages and telling them they are going to burn in hell forever if they don't do such-and-such. They aren't trying to re-arrange their society and seize control and displace their traditions. They're just putting the phone there for them to use. If the locals don't want to use it, they don't have to. But they are using it. I suppose, though, that you know what's better for them, and it's good for your country to move ahead technologically, and learn new information, but that people in other countries are wrong to want to learn new information and use new technologies, and we should take them away from them and not let them use them? Because it's our responsibility to leave other people alone, and not offer to help other people if they're from different cultures?<br> <br>

Our ancestors got my just fine for thousands of years without smartphones too. Do you wish Apple and RIM would just "leave us the fuck alone" and stop pushing their newfangled technology on us?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you not care at all what the people living there want ?
You accuse other slashdotters of having a " missionary complex " and say " you should just leave them the fuck alone .
" So , it does n't matter to you at all what the people living in these places think ?
If they ask for our help , we should refuse ?
They might want our help , and we might want to help them , but no , Simonetta knows what 's best for all the undeveloped areas of the world , and he says we should " leave them the fuck alone .
" In addition to technology , I suppose that includes other aid , like trying to dig wells to provide them with clean water ?
Their ancestor 's children have been dying of dysentery for millennia , so we should stop trying to inflict our western anti-dysentery views upon them ?
You say " why would anyone in the distant backward village want to go on the internet ?
" I do n't know .
Why do n't you try using the link to go look at all the questions they 're asking .
Unlike missionaries , no one is going into their villages and telling them they are going to burn in hell forever if they do n't do such-and-such .
They are n't trying to re-arrange their society and seize control and displace their traditions .
They 're just putting the phone there for them to use .
If the locals do n't want to use it , they do n't have to .
But they are using it .
I suppose , though , that you know what 's better for them , and it 's good for your country to move ahead technologically , and learn new information , but that people in other countries are wrong to want to learn new information and use new technologies , and we should take them away from them and not let them use them ?
Because it 's our responsibility to leave other people alone , and not offer to help other people if they 're from different cultures ?
Our ancestors got my just fine for thousands of years without smartphones too .
Do you wish Apple and RIM would just " leave us the fuck alone " and stop pushing their newfangled technology on us ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you not care at all what the people living there want?
You accuse other slashdotters of having a "missionary complex" and say "you should just leave them the fuck alone.
" 
So, it doesn't matter to you at all what the people living in these places think?
If they ask for our help, we should refuse?
They might want our help, and we might want to help them, but no, Simonetta knows what's best for all the undeveloped areas of the world, and he says we should "leave them the fuck alone.
" In addition to technology, I suppose that includes other aid, like trying to dig wells to provide them with clean water?
Their ancestor's children have been dying of dysentery for millennia, so we should stop trying to inflict our western anti-dysentery views upon them?
You say "why would anyone in the distant backward village want to go on the internet?
" I don't know.
Why don't you try using the link to go look at all the questions they're asking.
Unlike missionaries, no one is going into their villages and telling them they are going to burn in hell forever if they don't do such-and-such.
They aren't trying to re-arrange their society and seize control and displace their traditions.
They're just putting the phone there for them to use.
If the locals don't want to use it, they don't have to.
But they are using it.
I suppose, though, that you know what's better for them, and it's good for your country to move ahead technologically, and learn new information, but that people in other countries are wrong to want to learn new information and use new technologies, and we should take them away from them and not let them use them?
Because it's our responsibility to leave other people alone, and not offer to help other people if they're from different cultures?
Our ancestors got my just fine for thousands of years without smartphones too.
Do you wish Apple and RIM would just "leave us the fuck alone" and stop pushing their newfangled technology on us?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664649</id>
	<title>Re:A subtle point</title>
	<author>quanticle</author>
	<datestamp>1247321160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your point would be valid if the very technology you condemn did not provide material and financial advantages to those who have it, allowing them to unfairly take advantage of those who don't.  Unfortunately, that is not the case.  The vast amount of information on the Internet today allows people with Internet access to anticipate changing conditions and adapt to them much more quickly than those without.  This "question box" is an effort to level the playing field, allowing the least advantaged to access some of the networks and power structures that we in the developed world take for granted.</p><p>Indeed, it is you who is displaying the condescension and paternalism.  You are so wedded to your "noble savage" idea of the Global South that you're presuming for them that they'd be better off without this technology.  After all, no one is forcing these villagers to use the question box.  What's the harm in offering it to them and letting them decide whether its worth the effort or not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your point would be valid if the very technology you condemn did not provide material and financial advantages to those who have it , allowing them to unfairly take advantage of those who do n't .
Unfortunately , that is not the case .
The vast amount of information on the Internet today allows people with Internet access to anticipate changing conditions and adapt to them much more quickly than those without .
This " question box " is an effort to level the playing field , allowing the least advantaged to access some of the networks and power structures that we in the developed world take for granted.Indeed , it is you who is displaying the condescension and paternalism .
You are so wedded to your " noble savage " idea of the Global South that you 're presuming for them that they 'd be better off without this technology .
After all , no one is forcing these villagers to use the question box .
What 's the harm in offering it to them and letting them decide whether its worth the effort or not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your point would be valid if the very technology you condemn did not provide material and financial advantages to those who have it, allowing them to unfairly take advantage of those who don't.
Unfortunately, that is not the case.
The vast amount of information on the Internet today allows people with Internet access to anticipate changing conditions and adapt to them much more quickly than those without.
This "question box" is an effort to level the playing field, allowing the least advantaged to access some of the networks and power structures that we in the developed world take for granted.Indeed, it is you who is displaying the condescension and paternalism.
You are so wedded to your "noble savage" idea of the Global South that you're presuming for them that they'd be better off without this technology.
After all, no one is forcing these villagers to use the question box.
What's the harm in offering it to them and letting them decide whether its worth the effort or not?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664689</id>
	<title>Re:The problem is African IQ.</title>
	<author>quanticle</author>
	<datestamp>1247321760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem with your assertion is that, if IQ were some genetically defined constant, the population-wide IQ average would change <i>very</i> slowly over time.  This is not the case.  IQ scores everywhere have been going up pretty constantly over the past few decades as more and more people get access to proper education and nutrition.</p><p>Also, the failure of Africans to invent anything "significant" probably doesn't have anything to do with their racial heritage, and probably has more to do with their environment, as <i>Guns, Germs, and Steel</i> rightly points out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with your assertion is that , if IQ were some genetically defined constant , the population-wide IQ average would change very slowly over time .
This is not the case .
IQ scores everywhere have been going up pretty constantly over the past few decades as more and more people get access to proper education and nutrition.Also , the failure of Africans to invent anything " significant " probably does n't have anything to do with their racial heritage , and probably has more to do with their environment , as Guns , Germs , and Steel rightly points out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem with your assertion is that, if IQ were some genetically defined constant, the population-wide IQ average would change very slowly over time.
This is not the case.
IQ scores everywhere have been going up pretty constantly over the past few decades as more and more people get access to proper education and nutrition.Also, the failure of Africans to invent anything "significant" probably doesn't have anything to do with their racial heritage, and probably has more to do with their environment, as Guns, Germs, and Steel rightly points out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663079</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247305980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) The box requires less overall and less constant power.<br>2) An analog communications channel is much less difficult to implement over possibly unreliable wires.  Let the human brain handle the error correction (static).<br>3) Much cheaper than installing and servicing a computer.<br>4) Employs local people.<br>5) Doesn't require the user to be literate.<br>6) Doesn't require the user to know how to use a computer, what the Internet is, what google is, etc.  Just ask your question and get an answer.</p><p>
&nbsp; etc etc etc</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) The box requires less overall and less constant power.2 ) An analog communications channel is much less difficult to implement over possibly unreliable wires .
Let the human brain handle the error correction ( static ) .3 ) Much cheaper than installing and servicing a computer.4 ) Employs local people.5 ) Does n't require the user to be literate.6 ) Does n't require the user to know how to use a computer , what the Internet is , what google is , etc .
Just ask your question and get an answer .
  etc etc etc</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) The box requires less overall and less constant power.2) An analog communications channel is much less difficult to implement over possibly unreliable wires.
Let the human brain handle the error correction (static).3) Much cheaper than installing and servicing a computer.4) Employs local people.5) Doesn't require the user to be literate.6) Doesn't require the user to know how to use a computer, what the Internet is, what google is, etc.
Just ask your question and get an answer.
  etc etc etc</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28662989</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663327</id>
	<title>Re:The problem is African IQ.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247307780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are you smoking?</p><blockquote><div><p>...Quantum physics gave us nuclear power plants, the cleanest source of energy in the world.</p></div></blockquote><p>WTF? Care to explain that to people affected by Three mile Island, Selafield/Windscale, Chernoybl?</p><p>Nuclear <i>fission</i> will never be a clean source of engery are there is always going to be radioactive waste produced.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you smoking ? ...Quantum physics gave us nuclear power plants , the cleanest source of energy in the world.WTF ?
Care to explain that to people affected by Three mile Island , Selafield/Windscale , Chernoybl ? Nuclear fission will never be a clean source of engery are there is always going to be radioactive waste produced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you smoking?...Quantum physics gave us nuclear power plants, the cleanest source of energy in the world.WTF?
Care to explain that to people affected by Three mile Island, Selafield/Windscale, Chernoybl?Nuclear fission will never be a clean source of engery are there is always going to be radioactive waste produced.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663217</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663055</id>
	<title>Maybe I'm just being too cynical...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247305860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... but I'd be willing to wager the 'poor people' referred to by the OP have far more pressing questions that a device such as this one is basically useless for, like "What the hell am I going to eat today?".</p><p>In fairness, I'd say that this device is more of a novelty.  From their website:</p><p><i>"The users ask a wide range of questions, including cricket scores, paddy farming advice, codes to download songs on their mobiles, homework questions, University exam results, train schedules, commodity prices, and where to get a personal loan."</i></p><p>How about using the resources spent developing and deploying this device in more tangible efforts, such as providing better agricultural tools, seed, proper training, etc?<br>Honestly, while I think these 'feel-good' devices are a fantastic way for their creators and their well-heeled supporters to feel like 'they're making a difference', ultimately they're pretty much worthless in general practice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... but I 'd be willing to wager the 'poor people ' referred to by the OP have far more pressing questions that a device such as this one is basically useless for , like " What the hell am I going to eat today ?
" .In fairness , I 'd say that this device is more of a novelty .
From their website : " The users ask a wide range of questions , including cricket scores , paddy farming advice , codes to download songs on their mobiles , homework questions , University exam results , train schedules , commodity prices , and where to get a personal loan .
" How about using the resources spent developing and deploying this device in more tangible efforts , such as providing better agricultural tools , seed , proper training , etc ? Honestly , while I think these 'feel-good ' devices are a fantastic way for their creators and their well-heeled supporters to feel like 'they 're making a difference ' , ultimately they 're pretty much worthless in general practice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... but I'd be willing to wager the 'poor people' referred to by the OP have far more pressing questions that a device such as this one is basically useless for, like "What the hell am I going to eat today?
".In fairness, I'd say that this device is more of a novelty.
From their website:"The users ask a wide range of questions, including cricket scores, paddy farming advice, codes to download songs on their mobiles, homework questions, University exam results, train schedules, commodity prices, and where to get a personal loan.
"How about using the resources spent developing and deploying this device in more tangible efforts, such as providing better agricultural tools, seed, proper training, etc?Honestly, while I think these 'feel-good' devices are a fantastic way for their creators and their well-heeled supporters to feel like 'they're making a difference', ultimately they're pretty much worthless in general practice.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663041</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247305800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not everyone can read. Not everyone can work a computer. A simple voice connection has a much lower barrier to entry. Plus, hiring one operator for several villages is a lot cheaper than sending out and maintaining several computers in areas where there might not even be power. A voice connection can run on a crank.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not everyone can read .
Not everyone can work a computer .
A simple voice connection has a much lower barrier to entry .
Plus , hiring one operator for several villages is a lot cheaper than sending out and maintaining several computers in areas where there might not even be power .
A voice connection can run on a crank .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not everyone can read.
Not everyone can work a computer.
A simple voice connection has a much lower barrier to entry.
Plus, hiring one operator for several villages is a lot cheaper than sending out and maintaining several computers in areas where there might not even be power.
A voice connection can run on a crank.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28662989</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663069</id>
	<title>better than sneaker net</title>
	<author>maharg</author>
	<datestamp>1247305920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suppose we could call this 'speaker net'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose we could call this 'speaker net' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose we could call this 'speaker net'.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664981</id>
	<title>This won't work.</title>
	<author>w0mprat</author>
	<datestamp>1247327040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously though, if some villager wanted the latest tweet from Stephen Fry read to them verbatim, then this would be great.<br> <br>
In the real world, a villager with no first hand knowledge of what the internet is and what it can do, will ask a question assuming it's going to be like some kind of oracle...<br>
<i> Villager: "So, how do I fix blight on my crops, and my cattle are sick too, what's wrong with them?"<br>
[operator puts this into google now]<br>
Operator: erm<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... google has news articel blight is threatening tomato crops in rhode island<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. i found a list of five top crops for a pacific northwest vegetable garden<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... oh here we go: high-grain fee may produce illness prone cattle... yeah... um... you want me to read the abstract to you?"<br>
Villager: *confused* "Um i'll just ask the witchdocter instead then..."<br>
Operator: "yeah<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... sorry"<br> </i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously though , if some villager wanted the latest tweet from Stephen Fry read to them verbatim , then this would be great .
In the real world , a villager with no first hand knowledge of what the internet is and what it can do , will ask a question assuming it 's going to be like some kind of oracle.. . Villager : " So , how do I fix blight on my crops , and my cattle are sick too , what 's wrong with them ?
" [ operator puts this into google now ] Operator : erm ... google has news articel blight is threatening tomato crops in rhode island .. i found a list of five top crops for a pacific northwest vegetable garden ... oh here we go : high-grain fee may produce illness prone cattle... yeah... um... you want me to read the abstract to you ?
" Villager : * confused * " Um i 'll just ask the witchdocter instead then... " Operator : " yeah ... sorry "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously though, if some villager wanted the latest tweet from Stephen Fry read to them verbatim, then this would be great.
In the real world, a villager with no first hand knowledge of what the internet is and what it can do, will ask a question assuming it's going to be like some kind of oracle...
 Villager: "So, how do I fix blight on my crops, and my cattle are sick too, what's wrong with them?
"
[operator puts this into google now]
Operator: erm ... google has news articel blight is threatening tomato crops in rhode island .. i found a list of five top crops for a pacific northwest vegetable garden ... oh here we go: high-grain fee may produce illness prone cattle... yeah... um... you want me to read the abstract to you?
"
Villager: *confused* "Um i'll just ask the witchdocter instead then..."
Operator: "yeah ... sorry" </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663761</id>
	<title>I will personally ensure this conversation happens</title>
	<author>tbi</author>
	<datestamp>1247311200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"OK then operator, my friend was telling me about this electronic goats thingy-mah-whatsit, I believe he called them EGoats.. or.. Goats-E. Yeah that's it, could you describe to me what one of these Goats-e's look like please?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" OK then operator , my friend was telling me about this electronic goats thingy-mah-whatsit , I believe he called them EGoats.. or.. Goats-E. Yeah that 's it , could you describe to me what one of these Goats-e 's look like please ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"OK then operator, my friend was telling me about this electronic goats thingy-mah-whatsit, I believe he called them EGoats.. or.. Goats-E. Yeah that's it, could you describe to me what one of these Goats-e's look like please?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663389</id>
	<title>A subtle point</title>
	<author>Simonetta</author>
	<datestamp>1247308260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to put too fine a point on it,...</p><p>but <i>why</i> would anyone in the distant backward village want to go on the internet?</p><p>And a more important question.</p><p>Why do the technically advanced people in the overdeveloped parts of the world feel this overwhelming compulsion to force all this inappropriate and culturally disruptive technology onto the tribal people of the world?</p><p>Listen,  we are not all the same.  If someone is living in more or less the same way that their people have lived for the past two thousand years, then their way of life is sustainable and suitable for them.</p><p>So you (you being the technological elite, and that's you if you're a Slashdaughter) should just <i>leave them the fuck alone.</i></p><p>You aren't helping them in any way.  You aren't making their lives any better.</p><p>Yes, they're 'primitive'.  Yes, they're technologically backward.  Yes, they could probably live ten years longer if only had the advantage of the technology that you feel so compelled to bring to them.</p><p>But, so what!?!  What's it to you?  What difference does it make to you how they live?</p><p>You need to lose your missionary complex.  This obsession of bringing technology to the distant regions of the earth regardless of any real need for it is only the latest manifestation of the same obsession that drove your great-grandparents to go to the distant corners of the earth in order to save the souls of the heathen.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; This obsession is your real problem.  Their lack of technology (or having an unsaved soul) is not a problem for them.  Actually, YOU are a problem for them.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; So do yourself a favor, and do them a favor,...Stay home. Leave people alone.  Deal with your own mental diseases.  Not everyone wants and needs your techno toys as much as you do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to put too fine a point on it,...but why would anyone in the distant backward village want to go on the internet ? And a more important question.Why do the technically advanced people in the overdeveloped parts of the world feel this overwhelming compulsion to force all this inappropriate and culturally disruptive technology onto the tribal people of the world ? Listen , we are not all the same .
If someone is living in more or less the same way that their people have lived for the past two thousand years , then their way of life is sustainable and suitable for them.So you ( you being the technological elite , and that 's you if you 're a Slashdaughter ) should just leave them the fuck alone.You are n't helping them in any way .
You are n't making their lives any better.Yes , they 're 'primitive' .
Yes , they 're technologically backward .
Yes , they could probably live ten years longer if only had the advantage of the technology that you feel so compelled to bring to them.But , so what ! ? !
What 's it to you ?
What difference does it make to you how they live ? You need to lose your missionary complex .
This obsession of bringing technology to the distant regions of the earth regardless of any real need for it is only the latest manifestation of the same obsession that drove your great-grandparents to go to the distant corners of the earth in order to save the souls of the heathen .
    This obsession is your real problem .
Their lack of technology ( or having an unsaved soul ) is not a problem for them .
Actually , YOU are a problem for them .
    So do yourself a favor , and do them a favor,...Stay home .
Leave people alone .
Deal with your own mental diseases .
Not everyone wants and needs your techno toys as much as you do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to put too fine a point on it,...but why would anyone in the distant backward village want to go on the internet?And a more important question.Why do the technically advanced people in the overdeveloped parts of the world feel this overwhelming compulsion to force all this inappropriate and culturally disruptive technology onto the tribal people of the world?Listen,  we are not all the same.
If someone is living in more or less the same way that their people have lived for the past two thousand years, then their way of life is sustainable and suitable for them.So you (you being the technological elite, and that's you if you're a Slashdaughter) should just leave them the fuck alone.You aren't helping them in any way.
You aren't making their lives any better.Yes, they're 'primitive'.
Yes, they're technologically backward.
Yes, they could probably live ten years longer if only had the advantage of the technology that you feel so compelled to bring to them.But, so what!?!
What's it to you?
What difference does it make to you how they live?You need to lose your missionary complex.
This obsession of bringing technology to the distant regions of the earth regardless of any real need for it is only the latest manifestation of the same obsession that drove your great-grandparents to go to the distant corners of the earth in order to save the souls of the heathen.
    This obsession is your real problem.
Their lack of technology (or having an unsaved soul) is not a problem for them.
Actually, YOU are a problem for them.
    So do yourself a favor, and do them a favor,...Stay home.
Leave people alone.
Deal with your own mental diseases.
Not everyone wants and needs your techno toys as much as you do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28662921</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664387</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>Mr. Slippery</author>
	<datestamp>1247317320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>They live in tribes and use stone-age technology.</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>Stone-age technology such as intercoms?

</p><p>And everybody lives in tribes, some people's tribes are just hundreds of millions strong. We are pack animals.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They live in tribes and use stone-age technology .
Stone-age technology such as intercoms ?
And everybody lives in tribes , some people 's tribes are just hundreds of millions strong .
We are pack animals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> They live in tribes and use stone-age technology.
Stone-age technology such as intercoms?
And everybody lives in tribes, some people's tribes are just hundreds of millions strong.
We are pack animals.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663477</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664445</id>
	<title>Yo0 FAIL it..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247317920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">may disturb other getting tCogether to for a moment and though, I have to here, please do least I won't of programming</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>may disturb other getting tCogether to for a moment and though , I have to here , please do least I wo n't of programming [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>may disturb other getting tCogether to for a moment and though, I have to here, please do least I won't of programming [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663021</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>Swizec</author>
	<datestamp>1247305560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If the connection between the intercom and the operator is good enough for voice, that is good enough of a bit rate for googling things. Then just putting a computer there will make things much more efficient. (you won't have to hire a operator, for one thing)</p></div><p>And it still won't solve the other requirement, which is making it useful to people who can't read, let alone use a computer.<br> <br>Just how DO you teach a (practically) stone-age tribesman to use a computer?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the connection between the intercom and the operator is good enough for voice , that is good enough of a bit rate for googling things .
Then just putting a computer there will make things much more efficient .
( you wo n't have to hire a operator , for one thing ) And it still wo n't solve the other requirement , which is making it useful to people who ca n't read , let alone use a computer .
Just how DO you teach a ( practically ) stone-age tribesman to use a computer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the connection between the intercom and the operator is good enough for voice, that is good enough of a bit rate for googling things.
Then just putting a computer there will make things much more efficient.
(you won't have to hire a operator, for one thing)And it still won't solve the other requirement, which is making it useful to people who can't read, let alone use a computer.
Just how DO you teach a (practically) stone-age tribesman to use a computer?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28662989</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28668445</id>
	<title>But everyone knows what the Internet is for</title>
	<author>nsayer</author>
	<datestamp>1247424900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect the #1 question will wind up being, "What are you wearing?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect the # 1 question will wind up being , " What are you wearing ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect the #1 question will wind up being, "What are you wearing?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28666419</id>
	<title>Re:The problem is statistical illiteracy</title>
	<author>St.Creed</author>
	<datestamp>1247399340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  As for the accomplishments of the Germans, I have several Jewish friends who would disagree with the notion of German cultural, moral, and social superiority.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; See if you can guess why?</p></div><p>I know. I didn't like Goethe either.</p><p>There, that should teach you not to ask rhetorical questions on Slashdot<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As for the accomplishments of the Germans , I have several Jewish friends who would disagree with the notion of German cultural , moral , and social superiority .
    See if you can guess why ? I know .
I did n't like Goethe either.There , that should teach you not to ask rhetorical questions on Slashdot : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  As for the accomplishments of the Germans, I have several Jewish friends who would disagree with the notion of German cultural, moral, and social superiority.
    See if you can guess why?I know.
I didn't like Goethe either.There, that should teach you not to ask rhetorical questions on Slashdot :)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663573</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663355</id>
	<title>useful everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247308020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>back when i spent some time living in Lawrence, KS the local Uni (KU) had a 24/7 help desk line. it was entirely useful if not entirely necessary, and much appreciated when other avenues of information gathering failed or were not available.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>back when i spent some time living in Lawrence , KS the local Uni ( KU ) had a 24/7 help desk line .
it was entirely useful if not entirely necessary , and much appreciated when other avenues of information gathering failed or were not available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>back when i spent some time living in Lawrence, KS the local Uni (KU) had a 24/7 help desk line.
it was entirely useful if not entirely necessary, and much appreciated when other avenues of information gathering failed or were not available.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663283</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>c6gunner</author>
	<datestamp>1247307540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Just how DO you teach a (practically) stone-age tribesman to use a computer?</p></div></blockquote><p>You teach his kids (or better yet, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRb7\_ffl2D0" title="youtube.com">let them teach themselves</a> [youtube.com]), and let them help him out.  Hell, that's the way it happened in North America for the most part.  My parents are relatively computer-savvy, but not nearly as much as their children.  And my grandparents can't even program an answering machine.  When they need something technical, they seek help from the younger generations.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just how DO you teach a ( practically ) stone-age tribesman to use a computer ? You teach his kids ( or better yet , let them teach themselves [ youtube.com ] ) , and let them help him out .
Hell , that 's the way it happened in North America for the most part .
My parents are relatively computer-savvy , but not nearly as much as their children .
And my grandparents ca n't even program an answering machine .
When they need something technical , they seek help from the younger generations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just how DO you teach a (practically) stone-age tribesman to use a computer?You teach his kids (or better yet, let them teach themselves [youtube.com]), and let them help him out.
Hell, that's the way it happened in North America for the most part.
My parents are relatively computer-savvy, but not nearly as much as their children.
And my grandparents can't even program an answering machine.
When they need something technical, they seek help from the younger generations.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663021</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663495</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe I'm just being too cynical...</title>
	<author>Glonoinha</author>
	<datestamp>1247308920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While you're checking, settle something for us.<br>Any questions about <a href="http://www.bash.org/?858" title="bash.org">COBOL</a> [bash.org]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While you 're checking , settle something for us.Any questions about COBOL [ bash.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While you're checking, settle something for us.Any questions about COBOL [bash.org]?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663139</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28663217</id>
	<title>The problem is African IQ.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247307120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>These efforts to bring civilization to Africa will, mostly, fail.  The reason is that African IQ is lower than European (and Japanese) IQ by about 20 points.
<p>
At this point, some African and African-American supremacists object by saying that IQ tests are racially biased in favor of "White" people.  That objection is simply false.  The Japanese, who are not "White", achieve the same score that "White" people achieve on the IQ tests devised by "White" people.
</p><p>
Returning to the issue, we should note that Africa has contributed almost nothing to science or technology.  Most of it was invented by Europeans, European-Americans, and (to a lesser extent) Japanese.  This skill in science and technology brought tremendous wealth to the West (which includes Japan).
</p><p>
The only people who are responsible for African and African-American failure is Africans and African-Americans.  They wrecked their own societies due to low IQ.
</p><p>
Look at the utter ignorance and stupidity of Africans.
</p><p>
Now, look at the achievements of, say, Germans.  They co-invented calculus (with an Englishman), invented the jet aircraft, and built part of the foundation of quantum physics.  Quantum physics gave us nuclear power plants, the cleanest source of energy in the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These efforts to bring civilization to Africa will , mostly , fail .
The reason is that African IQ is lower than European ( and Japanese ) IQ by about 20 points .
At this point , some African and African-American supremacists object by saying that IQ tests are racially biased in favor of " White " people .
That objection is simply false .
The Japanese , who are not " White " , achieve the same score that " White " people achieve on the IQ tests devised by " White " people .
Returning to the issue , we should note that Africa has contributed almost nothing to science or technology .
Most of it was invented by Europeans , European-Americans , and ( to a lesser extent ) Japanese .
This skill in science and technology brought tremendous wealth to the West ( which includes Japan ) .
The only people who are responsible for African and African-American failure is Africans and African-Americans .
They wrecked their own societies due to low IQ .
Look at the utter ignorance and stupidity of Africans .
Now , look at the achievements of , say , Germans .
They co-invented calculus ( with an Englishman ) , invented the jet aircraft , and built part of the foundation of quantum physics .
Quantum physics gave us nuclear power plants , the cleanest source of energy in the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These efforts to bring civilization to Africa will, mostly, fail.
The reason is that African IQ is lower than European (and Japanese) IQ by about 20 points.
At this point, some African and African-American supremacists object by saying that IQ tests are racially biased in favor of "White" people.
That objection is simply false.
The Japanese, who are not "White", achieve the same score that "White" people achieve on the IQ tests devised by "White" people.
Returning to the issue, we should note that Africa has contributed almost nothing to science or technology.
Most of it was invented by Europeans, European-Americans, and (to a lesser extent) Japanese.
This skill in science and technology brought tremendous wealth to the West (which includes Japan).
The only people who are responsible for African and African-American failure is Africans and African-Americans.
They wrecked their own societies due to low IQ.
Look at the utter ignorance and stupidity of Africans.
Now, look at the achievements of, say, Germans.
They co-invented calculus (with an Englishman), invented the jet aircraft, and built part of the foundation of quantum physics.
Quantum physics gave us nuclear power plants, the cleanest source of energy in the world.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28666005</id>
	<title>Re:Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>1u3hr</author>
	<datestamp>1247389860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>just putting a computer there</i> <p>
Computers cost a lot more than phones. There may be no room, no reliable power supply. No one to look after it. How long woud a PC last if unsupervised in a public place -- even if not stolen, it wold be trashed or unusable in a short time. And many parts of Africa have only mobile access, via shared mobile phones. Maybe as cheap smartphones become a commodity they can be used for this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>just putting a computer there Computers cost a lot more than phones .
There may be no room , no reliable power supply .
No one to look after it .
How long woud a PC last if unsupervised in a public place -- even if not stolen , it wold be trashed or unusable in a short time .
And many parts of Africa have only mobile access , via shared mobile phones .
Maybe as cheap smartphones become a commodity they can be used for this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just putting a computer there 
Computers cost a lot more than phones.
There may be no room, no reliable power supply.
No one to look after it.
How long woud a PC last if unsupervised in a public place -- even if not stolen, it wold be trashed or unusable in a short time.
And many parts of Africa have only mobile access, via shared mobile phones.
Maybe as cheap smartphones become a commodity they can be used for this.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28662989</id>
	<title>Put a computer where the intercom is!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247305320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the connection between the intercom and the operator is good enough for voice, that is good enough of a bit rate for googling things. Then just putting a computer there will make things much more efficient. (you won't have to hire a operator, for one thing)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the connection between the intercom and the operator is good enough for voice , that is good enough of a bit rate for googling things .
Then just putting a computer there will make things much more efficient .
( you wo n't have to hire a operator , for one thing )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the connection between the intercom and the operator is good enough for voice, that is good enough of a bit rate for googling things.
Then just putting a computer there will make things much more efficient.
(you won't have to hire a operator, for one thing)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_11_2012247.28664503</id>
	<title>Internet access is scarce at Google?</title>
	<author>drcagn</author>
	<datestamp>1247318700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's weird, considering they're an internet services company...</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's weird , considering they 're an internet services company.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's weird, considering they're an internet services company...</sentencetext>
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