<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_07_1526237</id>
	<title>Google Apps Leave Beta</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1246984020000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Today Google announced that <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/gmail-and-other-google-apps-finally-shed-beta-label/?partner=rss&amp;emc=rss">they're removing the "beta" label from Gmail</a>, Google Calendar, Google Docs and Google Talk. They said, "We've come to appreciate that <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/google-apps-is-out-of-beta-yes-really.html">the beta tag just doesn't fit for large enterprises</a> that aren't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it's still in the trial phase." Quoting the NYTimes:
<i>"'Obviously we haven't had a consistent set of policies or definitions around beta,' said Matt Glotzbach, a director of product management at Google. Mr. Glotzbach said that different teams at Google had different criteria for what beta meant, and that Google felt a need to standardize those. ... Practically speaking, the change will mean precious little to Gmail's millions of users. But it could help Google's efforts to get the paid version of its package of applications, which includes Gmail, Calendar, Docs and other products, <a href="http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2009/07/paving-road-to-apps-adoption-in-large.html">adopted inside big companies</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Today Google announced that they 're removing the " beta " label from Gmail , Google Calendar , Google Docs and Google Talk .
They said , " We 've come to appreciate that the beta tag just does n't fit for large enterprises that are n't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it 's still in the trial phase .
" Quoting the NYTimes : " 'Obviously we have n't had a consistent set of policies or definitions around beta, ' said Matt Glotzbach , a director of product management at Google .
Mr. Glotzbach said that different teams at Google had different criteria for what beta meant , and that Google felt a need to standardize those .
... Practically speaking , the change will mean precious little to Gmail 's millions of users .
But it could help Google 's efforts to get the paid version of its package of applications , which includes Gmail , Calendar , Docs and other products , adopted inside big companies .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Today Google announced that they're removing the "beta" label from Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Docs and Google Talk.
They said, "We've come to appreciate that the beta tag just doesn't fit for large enterprises that aren't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it's still in the trial phase.
" Quoting the NYTimes:
"'Obviously we haven't had a consistent set of policies or definitions around beta,' said Matt Glotzbach, a director of product management at Google.
Mr. Glotzbach said that different teams at Google had different criteria for what beta meant, and that Google felt a need to standardize those.
... Practically speaking, the change will mean precious little to Gmail's millions of users.
But it could help Google's efforts to get the paid version of its package of applications, which includes Gmail, Calendar, Docs and other products, adopted inside big companies.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609721</id>
	<title>Beta</title>
	<author>TheSpoom</author>
	<datestamp>1246987620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, duh.  Google marks apps as beta so they have no uptime or reliability requirements to the end user.  You can't blame businesses for wanting software they've paid for to not have such an inherent disclaimer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , duh .
Google marks apps as beta so they have no uptime or reliability requirements to the end user .
You ca n't blame businesses for wanting software they 've paid for to not have such an inherent disclaimer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, duh.
Google marks apps as beta so they have no uptime or reliability requirements to the end user.
You can't blame businesses for wanting software they've paid for to not have such an inherent disclaimer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611067</id>
	<title>Re:wtf</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1246992900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of COURSE they have a definition of Beta - Beta is commonly used.</p><p>"Alpha" is an in-house test of software. "Beta" is test software released "out of the shop", so Google's "beta" was apt.</p><p>I don't think you can have "alpha" or "beta" to noncommercial software. Ubantu can have a beta, but not Linux. Then again, maybe Google was/is taking a poke at Microsoft, who is notorious for releasing buggy yet still expensive software. Microsoft only seems to get it right after a long time; Excel is a good example, a fine spreadsheet, far better than Lotus or Quattro, even though Lotus used to eat its lunch and Microsoft had to resort to OS trickery to get the upper hand (people used to accuse Microsoft of having the motto "DOS ain't done 'til Lotus won't run), but they have no need these days; Lotus is its own worst enemy. Access, on the other hand, may never get out of beta. When you get an error message that says "there is no message for this error", you're dealing with beta software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of COURSE they have a definition of Beta - Beta is commonly used .
" Alpha " is an in-house test of software .
" Beta " is test software released " out of the shop " , so Google 's " beta " was apt.I do n't think you can have " alpha " or " beta " to noncommercial software .
Ubantu can have a beta , but not Linux .
Then again , maybe Google was/is taking a poke at Microsoft , who is notorious for releasing buggy yet still expensive software .
Microsoft only seems to get it right after a long time ; Excel is a good example , a fine spreadsheet , far better than Lotus or Quattro , even though Lotus used to eat its lunch and Microsoft had to resort to OS trickery to get the upper hand ( people used to accuse Microsoft of having the motto " DOS ai n't done 'til Lotus wo n't run ) , but they have no need these days ; Lotus is its own worst enemy .
Access , on the other hand , may never get out of beta .
When you get an error message that says " there is no message for this error " , you 're dealing with beta software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of COURSE they have a definition of Beta - Beta is commonly used.
"Alpha" is an in-house test of software.
"Beta" is test software released "out of the shop", so Google's "beta" was apt.I don't think you can have "alpha" or "beta" to noncommercial software.
Ubantu can have a beta, but not Linux.
Then again, maybe Google was/is taking a poke at Microsoft, who is notorious for releasing buggy yet still expensive software.
Microsoft only seems to get it right after a long time; Excel is a good example, a fine spreadsheet, far better than Lotus or Quattro, even though Lotus used to eat its lunch and Microsoft had to resort to OS trickery to get the upper hand (people used to accuse Microsoft of having the motto "DOS ain't done 'til Lotus won't run), but they have no need these days; Lotus is its own worst enemy.
Access, on the other hand, may never get out of beta.
When you get an error message that says "there is no message for this error", you're dealing with beta software.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609803</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610211</id>
	<title>For those of you disappointed by this announcement</title>
	<author>grantham</author>
	<datestamp>1246989660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They've give you the option to put your own version of Gmail back into beta, you know, if you're into that sort of thing:<br><a href="http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/gmail-leaves-beta-launches-back-to-beta.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/gmail-leaves-beta-launches-back-to-beta.html</a> [blogspot.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've give you the option to put your own version of Gmail back into beta , you know , if you 're into that sort of thing : http : //gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/gmail-leaves-beta-launches-back-to-beta.html [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've give you the option to put your own version of Gmail back into beta, you know, if you're into that sort of thing:http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/gmail-leaves-beta-launches-back-to-beta.html [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611569</id>
	<title>It does not mean what you think it means</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1246994820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"We've come to appreciate that the beta tag just doesn't fit for large enterprises that aren't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it's still in the trial phase."</i> <p>That's what beta <b>means</b>, you idiot!  It means it's in the trial phase!  You mean I've been right all along, and the beta tag was just an excuse to eliminate complaints?  Well color me shocked.  The attitude has got a whiff of evil about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" We 've come to appreciate that the beta tag just does n't fit for large enterprises that are n't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it 's still in the trial phase .
" That 's what beta means , you idiot !
It means it 's in the trial phase !
You mean I 've been right all along , and the beta tag was just an excuse to eliminate complaints ?
Well color me shocked .
The attitude has got a whiff of evil about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We've come to appreciate that the beta tag just doesn't fit for large enterprises that aren't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it's still in the trial phase.
" That's what beta means, you idiot!
It means it's in the trial phase!
You mean I've been right all along, and the beta tag was just an excuse to eliminate complaints?
Well color me shocked.
The attitude has got a whiff of evil about it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28615789</id>
	<title>Re:Some say that the freebie version will end, too</title>
	<author>curunir</author>
	<datestamp>1246970220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know it's not ending, but I would be fine with them ending it so long as they created a price tier between $0 and $50 per user per year. Even if they didn't drop the free version, I'd be willing to pay for a few extra features. If I could pay $50 per year for specific users, I'd probably go for it for my own account and those of my immediate family. But I've got about 30 friends who I've given email accounts to and there's no way I'm paying $1500/year.</p><p>I think there's a real opportunity for them to make a bit more on Apps if they separated out some of the enterprise-level features (SSO, support, etc) from the non-enterprise-but-pay-for features (no ads, increased storage). Give me a chance to pay $200/year or below for increased features and I'll do it, if only because the service is worth $200/year to me in its current free form.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know it 's not ending , but I would be fine with them ending it so long as they created a price tier between $ 0 and $ 50 per user per year .
Even if they did n't drop the free version , I 'd be willing to pay for a few extra features .
If I could pay $ 50 per year for specific users , I 'd probably go for it for my own account and those of my immediate family .
But I 've got about 30 friends who I 've given email accounts to and there 's no way I 'm paying $ 1500/year.I think there 's a real opportunity for them to make a bit more on Apps if they separated out some of the enterprise-level features ( SSO , support , etc ) from the non-enterprise-but-pay-for features ( no ads , increased storage ) .
Give me a chance to pay $ 200/year or below for increased features and I 'll do it , if only because the service is worth $ 200/year to me in its current free form .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know it's not ending, but I would be fine with them ending it so long as they created a price tier between $0 and $50 per user per year.
Even if they didn't drop the free version, I'd be willing to pay for a few extra features.
If I could pay $50 per year for specific users, I'd probably go for it for my own account and those of my immediate family.
But I've got about 30 friends who I've given email accounts to and there's no way I'm paying $1500/year.I think there's a real opportunity for them to make a bit more on Apps if they separated out some of the enterprise-level features (SSO, support, etc) from the non-enterprise-but-pay-for features (no ads, increased storage).
Give me a chance to pay $200/year or below for increased features and I'll do it, if only because the service is worth $200/year to me in its current free form.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28612181</id>
	<title>Remnants Of A Power Struggle</title>
	<author>v(*\_*)vvvv</author>
	<datestamp>1246997160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>that aren't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it's still in the trial phase.</p></div><p>This is the precise moment the last developer with a say in business, died at google. May they rest in peace.</p><p>The beta label issue has been around about as long as gmail itself, and every time they were asked about it, the answer was always the same: it's trial software. Because, IT WAS, and STILL IS.</p><p>Now we have google announcing on their own their graduation from beta, but for all the wrong reasons. The marketing heads had to make it known that they won. They should have just said, "it is now stable software." But no, that is what a responsible developer would say. They basically denounced the beta label being there in the first place, giving strategic reasons, and not technical ones. The worst part? If they had known better, they would have still pretended to be responsible developers.</p><p>They are idiots, and they are taking over. If I had google stock, I would sell it right about... NOW.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>that are n't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it 's still in the trial phase.This is the precise moment the last developer with a say in business , died at google .
May they rest in peace.The beta label issue has been around about as long as gmail itself , and every time they were asked about it , the answer was always the same : it 's trial software .
Because , IT WAS , and STILL IS.Now we have google announcing on their own their graduation from beta , but for all the wrong reasons .
The marketing heads had to make it known that they won .
They should have just said , " it is now stable software .
" But no , that is what a responsible developer would say .
They basically denounced the beta label being there in the first place , giving strategic reasons , and not technical ones .
The worst part ?
If they had known better , they would have still pretended to be responsible developers.They are idiots , and they are taking over .
If I had google stock , I would sell it right about... NOW .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that aren't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it's still in the trial phase.This is the precise moment the last developer with a say in business, died at google.
May they rest in peace.The beta label issue has been around about as long as gmail itself, and every time they were asked about it, the answer was always the same: it's trial software.
Because, IT WAS, and STILL IS.Now we have google announcing on their own their graduation from beta, but for all the wrong reasons.
The marketing heads had to make it known that they won.
They should have just said, "it is now stable software.
" But no, that is what a responsible developer would say.
They basically denounced the beta label being there in the first place, giving strategic reasons, and not technical ones.
The worst part?
If they had known better, they would have still pretended to be responsible developers.They are idiots, and they are taking over.
If I had google stock, I would sell it right about... NOW.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609909</id>
	<title>Re:I use Google Apps, but</title>
	<author>darkmeridian</author>
	<datestamp>1246988460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google Mail and Calendar are great for small businesses. I expect Google Voice to be a game changer as well. Most small businesses have businessname@yahoo.com but Google Mail allows you to have person@businessname.com with the ease of Gmail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google Mail and Calendar are great for small businesses .
I expect Google Voice to be a game changer as well .
Most small businesses have businessname @ yahoo.com but Google Mail allows you to have person @ businessname.com with the ease of Gmail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google Mail and Calendar are great for small businesses.
I expect Google Voice to be a game changer as well.
Most small businesses have businessname@yahoo.com but Google Mail allows you to have person@businessname.com with the ease of Gmail.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609805</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28616253</id>
	<title>Re:Beta or not...</title>
	<author>Daengbo</author>
	<datestamp>1246973940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah. That's why they have <a href="http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/org/index.html" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">Google Apps for Your Domain</a> [google.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah .
That 's why they have Google Apps for Your Domain [ google.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah.
That's why they have Google Apps for Your Domain [google.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28614697</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28613343</id>
	<title>Distinguishing from Bing</title>
	<author>AttilaSz</author>
	<datestamp>1246958640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe they want to start distinguishing their services from Microsoft's Bing? "Our products are stable, not like that Bing thing; it's still in beta"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they want to start distinguishing their services from Microsoft 's Bing ?
" Our products are stable , not like that Bing thing ; it 's still in beta "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they want to start distinguishing their services from Microsoft's Bing?
"Our products are stable, not like that Bing thing; it's still in beta"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610369</id>
	<title>Re:Beta</title>
	<author>raddan</author>
	<datestamp>1246990380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Paying for software that comes with guarantees (uptime other SLAs) also ensures that an IT department can pass the buck when the thing stops working.  This is a big factor in IT purchasing decisions, and the reason why lots of IT folks pay the exorbitant costs for support contracts, when most of the time, you really could just stock the parts or run the thing yourself, often at a considerable discount.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Paying for software that comes with guarantees ( uptime other SLAs ) also ensures that an IT department can pass the buck when the thing stops working .
This is a big factor in IT purchasing decisions , and the reason why lots of IT folks pay the exorbitant costs for support contracts , when most of the time , you really could just stock the parts or run the thing yourself , often at a considerable discount .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Paying for software that comes with guarantees (uptime other SLAs) also ensures that an IT department can pass the buck when the thing stops working.
This is a big factor in IT purchasing decisions, and the reason why lots of IT folks pay the exorbitant costs for support contracts, when most of the time, you really could just stock the parts or run the thing yourself, often at a considerable discount.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609721</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609963</id>
	<title>Re:wtf</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1246988700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a good question, but if you think about it, it's pretty understandable.  If you remember, Gmail used to by an invite-only thing that they were testing.  When each of these services were first introduced, they were unstable (both in terms of reliability and the unpredictability of changes) enough to warrant the "beta" tag.
</p><p>So they probably had a vague and intuitive notion of what "beta" meant to them.  However, if you don't have a clear and specific definition of "beta", then there will never be a moment when it clearly makes sense to drop the label.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a good question , but if you think about it , it 's pretty understandable .
If you remember , Gmail used to by an invite-only thing that they were testing .
When each of these services were first introduced , they were unstable ( both in terms of reliability and the unpredictability of changes ) enough to warrant the " beta " tag .
So they probably had a vague and intuitive notion of what " beta " meant to them .
However , if you do n't have a clear and specific definition of " beta " , then there will never be a moment when it clearly makes sense to drop the label .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a good question, but if you think about it, it's pretty understandable.
If you remember, Gmail used to by an invite-only thing that they were testing.
When each of these services were first introduced, they were unstable (both in terms of reliability and the unpredictability of changes) enough to warrant the "beta" tag.
So they probably had a vague and intuitive notion of what "beta" meant to them.
However, if you don't have a clear and specific definition of "beta", then there will never be a moment when it clearly makes sense to drop the label.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609803</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610339</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246990320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, really it's been weird all year.  The first black president, record labels drop DRM, Duke Nukem Forever is finally cancelled, The Watchmen is released as a movie, HTML5 and CSS3 are starting to be implemented in almost all the major browsers, and...
</p><p>...what else?  I bet we could keep it going.  That stuff was just off the top of my head.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , really it 's been weird all year .
The first black president , record labels drop DRM , Duke Nukem Forever is finally cancelled , The Watchmen is released as a movie , HTML5 and CSS3 are starting to be implemented in almost all the major browsers , and.. . ...what else ?
I bet we could keep it going .
That stuff was just off the top of my head .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, really it's been weird all year.
The first black president, record labels drop DRM, Duke Nukem Forever is finally cancelled, The Watchmen is released as a movie, HTML5 and CSS3 are starting to be implemented in almost all the major browsers, and...
...what else?
I bet we could keep it going.
That stuff was just off the top of my head.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610461</id>
	<title>Too bad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246990740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Web applications suck and will always suck</htmltext>
<tokenext>Web applications suck and will always suck</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Web applications suck and will always suck</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611215</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246993560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it was a karma trade for killing michael jackson and billy mays</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it was a karma trade for killing michael jackson and billy mays</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it was a karma trade for killing michael jackson and billy mays</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610539</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246990980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>-Russia and the US agree to further disarm.  They didn't agree to disarm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>-Russia and the US agree to further disarm .
They did n't agree to disarm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-Russia and the US agree to further disarm.
They didn't agree to disarm.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609809</id>
	<title>Goggle Apps now..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246987980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext> in Beta Gold.</htmltext>
<tokenext>in Beta Gold .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> in Beta Gold.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611505</id>
	<title>Simple Marketing</title>
	<author>malevolentjelly</author>
	<datestamp>1246994580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Calling Google Apps "Beta" was likely a pragmatic move on the front of both marketing to bleeding edge internet enthusiasts who are addicted to novelty and engineering in limiting the expectations and liability of google products. They could maintain beta quality products and code and levels of support as long as they kept the beta moniker.</p><p>However, I feel that the web's incestuous advertising scheme is beginning to dry up in these times of economic peril, so google needs to go for harder sources of money, like enterprises. Now they're no longer circumventing Microsoft in the market but facing them head to head for a position in the enterprise. Microsoft has as strong position in this market, so they have a certain legacy and stability, which enterprises appreciate.</p><p>The first step for Google in combating this will be the simple rebranding of their products to give the semblance of maturity. In reality, any recent changes to the code are minimal to superficial, so this is merely a marketing maneuver and says nothing about the practical roles of beta and gold software in software engineering. It's a welcome change, but it is yet to be seen whether google has the attention span to maintain stable enterprise products. Offering a consistent platform will also open them up to the sort of demonization that Microsoft has faced up until now, as expectations may rise above what they can deliver.</p><p>In short, Google is growing up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Calling Google Apps " Beta " was likely a pragmatic move on the front of both marketing to bleeding edge internet enthusiasts who are addicted to novelty and engineering in limiting the expectations and liability of google products .
They could maintain beta quality products and code and levels of support as long as they kept the beta moniker.However , I feel that the web 's incestuous advertising scheme is beginning to dry up in these times of economic peril , so google needs to go for harder sources of money , like enterprises .
Now they 're no longer circumventing Microsoft in the market but facing them head to head for a position in the enterprise .
Microsoft has as strong position in this market , so they have a certain legacy and stability , which enterprises appreciate.The first step for Google in combating this will be the simple rebranding of their products to give the semblance of maturity .
In reality , any recent changes to the code are minimal to superficial , so this is merely a marketing maneuver and says nothing about the practical roles of beta and gold software in software engineering .
It 's a welcome change , but it is yet to be seen whether google has the attention span to maintain stable enterprise products .
Offering a consistent platform will also open them up to the sort of demonization that Microsoft has faced up until now , as expectations may rise above what they can deliver.In short , Google is growing up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Calling Google Apps "Beta" was likely a pragmatic move on the front of both marketing to bleeding edge internet enthusiasts who are addicted to novelty and engineering in limiting the expectations and liability of google products.
They could maintain beta quality products and code and levels of support as long as they kept the beta moniker.However, I feel that the web's incestuous advertising scheme is beginning to dry up in these times of economic peril, so google needs to go for harder sources of money, like enterprises.
Now they're no longer circumventing Microsoft in the market but facing them head to head for a position in the enterprise.
Microsoft has as strong position in this market, so they have a certain legacy and stability, which enterprises appreciate.The first step for Google in combating this will be the simple rebranding of their products to give the semblance of maturity.
In reality, any recent changes to the code are minimal to superficial, so this is merely a marketing maneuver and says nothing about the practical roles of beta and gold software in software engineering.
It's a welcome change, but it is yet to be seen whether google has the attention span to maintain stable enterprise products.
Offering a consistent platform will also open them up to the sort of demonization that Microsoft has faced up until now, as expectations may rise above what they can deliver.In short, Google is growing up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611083</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1246992960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait for tomorrow! It will be like when Al Bundy got four aces, because the horror with the scope said "Good luck's a-comin'"!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait for tomorrow !
It will be like when Al Bundy got four aces , because the horror with the scope said " Good luck 's a-comin ' " !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait for tomorrow!
It will be like when Al Bundy got four aces, because the horror with the scope said "Good luck's a-comin'"!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610427</id>
	<title>The good news: Google apps are all out of beta!</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1246990560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The bad news: they're all entering 'Gamma'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The bad news : they 're all entering 'Gamma'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The bad news: they're all entering 'Gamma'</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610899</id>
	<title>Re:wtf</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1246992300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also, why would I trust a company, that does not even know if its products are still beta, or no, or what it means, or anything?</p><p>Has there been a bug tracker site? Was it linked from inside the program? Did no new bug report come in for 3 months? Did they fix all the bugs in the tracker? (Without the feature requests and bugs depending on them.)<br>I haven't seen any of those. So to me it still is beta, it always will be (Microsoft style), and the only reason it is relabeled, is for money reasons (again Microsoft style).</p><p>Do no evil. Yeah. Right.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , why would I trust a company , that does not even know if its products are still beta , or no , or what it means , or anything ? Has there been a bug tracker site ?
Was it linked from inside the program ?
Did no new bug report come in for 3 months ?
Did they fix all the bugs in the tracker ?
( Without the feature requests and bugs depending on them .
) I have n't seen any of those .
So to me it still is beta , it always will be ( Microsoft style ) , and the only reason it is relabeled , is for money reasons ( again Microsoft style ) .Do no evil .
Yeah. Right .
: /</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, why would I trust a company, that does not even know if its products are still beta, or no, or what it means, or anything?Has there been a bug tracker site?
Was it linked from inside the program?
Did no new bug report come in for 3 months?
Did they fix all the bugs in the tracker?
(Without the feature requests and bugs depending on them.
)I haven't seen any of those.
So to me it still is beta, it always will be (Microsoft style), and the only reason it is relabeled, is for money reasons (again Microsoft style).Do no evil.
Yeah. Right.
:/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609803</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609961</id>
	<title>Two definitions of "stable"</title>
	<author>Darkness404</author>
	<datestamp>1246988700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The problem is, there are two different definitions of "stable" one is, the application doesn't crash or have lots of downtime, the other is the application doesn't change. Gmail was stable by the first and most common definition, however I don't think Google imagined Gmail was stable by the second definition. However, a few years later, it became clear that Gmail was more or less stable by both definitions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is , there are two different definitions of " stable " one is , the application does n't crash or have lots of downtime , the other is the application does n't change .
Gmail was stable by the first and most common definition , however I do n't think Google imagined Gmail was stable by the second definition .
However , a few years later , it became clear that Gmail was more or less stable by both definitions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is, there are two different definitions of "stable" one is, the application doesn't crash or have lots of downtime, the other is the application doesn't change.
Gmail was stable by the first and most common definition, however I don't think Google imagined Gmail was stable by the second definition.
However, a few years later, it became clear that Gmail was more or less stable by both definitions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611199</id>
	<title>I got my google voice invite yesterday</title>
	<author>qwertyatwork</author>
	<datestamp>1246993500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Has anyone got their invite?  Are they opening it up now?  For the record, I put in for my invite April of last year.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone got their invite ?
Are they opening it up now ?
For the record , I put in for my invite April of last year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone got their invite?
Are they opening it up now?
For the record, I put in for my invite April of last year.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610511</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246990860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So many things today I didn't see coming!</p><p>-We finally get a straight answer from Microsoft on C#, in favour of OSS</p> </div><p>Except it's probably a lie.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>-Russia and the US agree to disarm</p> </div><p>Except this is the worst possible thing for the US to do right now (in the face of Iran, North Korea, etc.)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>-Microsoft admits there's a security flaw in ActiveX</p> </div><p>Talk is cheap.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>-VLC reaches 1.0</p> </div><p>OK, you got me there.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>-Google's stuff gets out of Beta</p> </div><p>translation: Google gives up on telling the truth about where their apps are.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Either I need to pay more attention, or drop my cynicism. I guess I kind of expected them to happen, just not for a while yet.</p></div><p>Sucker!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So many things today I did n't see coming ! -We finally get a straight answer from Microsoft on C # , in favour of OSS Except it 's probably a lie.-Russia and the US agree to disarm Except this is the worst possible thing for the US to do right now ( in the face of Iran , North Korea , etc .
) -Microsoft admits there 's a security flaw in ActiveX Talk is cheap.-VLC reaches 1.0 OK , you got me there.-Google 's stuff gets out of Beta translation : Google gives up on telling the truth about where their apps are.Either I need to pay more attention , or drop my cynicism .
I guess I kind of expected them to happen , just not for a while yet.Sucker !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So many things today I didn't see coming!-We finally get a straight answer from Microsoft on C#, in favour of OSS Except it's probably a lie.-Russia and the US agree to disarm Except this is the worst possible thing for the US to do right now (in the face of Iran, North Korea, etc.
)-Microsoft admits there's a security flaw in ActiveX Talk is cheap.-VLC reaches 1.0 OK, you got me there.-Google's stuff gets out of Beta translation: Google gives up on telling the truth about where their apps are.Either I need to pay more attention, or drop my cynicism.
I guess I kind of expected them to happen, just not for a while yet.Sucker!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610719</id>
	<title>Why not just charge for removing the label?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246991640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just like everyone else, you don't want my name in the bottom of the app, then pay for the "Enterprise" version with that removed...</p><p>You want Enterprise Gmail, the "beta" is removed, where everyone else on the "free" version still gets the "beta" label...</p><p>What's so hard about that model?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like everyone else , you do n't want my name in the bottom of the app , then pay for the " Enterprise " version with that removed...You want Enterprise Gmail , the " beta " is removed , where everyone else on the " free " version still gets the " beta " label...What 's so hard about that model ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like everyone else, you don't want my name in the bottom of the app, then pay for the "Enterprise" version with that removed...You want Enterprise Gmail, the "beta" is removed, where everyone else on the "free" version still gets the "beta" label...What's so hard about that model?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609905</id>
	<title>holy shit!</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1246988400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't been this surprised since Amazon turned a profit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't been this surprised since Amazon turned a profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't been this surprised since Amazon turned a profit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609885</id>
	<title>So...ummmm.....</title>
	<author>morgan\_greywolf</author>
	<datestamp>1246988280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does this mean that Duke Nukem Forever will be released soon?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this mean that Duke Nukem Forever will be released soon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this mean that Duke Nukem Forever will be released soon?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609899</id>
	<title>i demand you mod me down</title>
	<author>nausea\_malvarma</author>
	<datestamp>1246988400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>fuck cock shit motherfucker asshole</htmltext>
<tokenext>fuck cock shit motherfucker asshole</tokentext>
<sentencetext>fuck cock shit motherfucker asshole</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611909</id>
	<title>Some say that the freebie version will end, too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246995960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/147402-is-the-free-version-of-google-apps-history?source=yahoo" title="seekingalpha.com">Seeking Alpha</a> [seekingalpha.com] says that Google may be killing off the free "Standard" edition now that Apps is no longer beta. "The current sign up page makes no mention of the previously free Standard edition." That would leave only the Education version as the freebie.
<p>Julie<br>
  -- <br>
  Take a gander at Network World's <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/subnets/google/" title="networkworld.com">Google Subnet</a> [networkworld.com] <br>
  Google news for the enterprise. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seeking Alpha [ seekingalpha.com ] says that Google may be killing off the free " Standard " edition now that Apps is no longer beta .
" The current sign up page makes no mention of the previously free Standard edition .
" That would leave only the Education version as the freebie .
Julie -- Take a gander at Network World 's Google Subnet [ networkworld.com ] Google news for the enterprise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seeking Alpha [seekingalpha.com] says that Google may be killing off the free "Standard" edition now that Apps is no longer beta.
"The current sign up page makes no mention of the previously free Standard edition.
" That would leave only the Education version as the freebie.
Julie
  -- 
  Take a gander at Network World's Google Subnet [networkworld.com] 
  Google news for the enterprise. </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28616887</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>KingAlanI</author>
	<datestamp>1246979160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Axl Rose finally got Chinese Democracy out the door last year.<br>So, what do we get in 2010?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Axl Rose finally got Chinese Democracy out the door last year.So , what do we get in 2010 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Axl Rose finally got Chinese Democracy out the door last year.So, what do we get in 2010?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28614697</id>
	<title>Beta or not...</title>
	<author>Ross Finlayson</author>
	<datestamp>1246964040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Serious professionals do not use "@gmail.com" email addresses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Serious professionals do not use " @ gmail.com " email addresses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Serious professionals do not use "@gmail.com" email addresses.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609991</id>
	<title>Docs and Android</title>
	<author>Speare</author>
	<datestamp>1246988820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>
<p>Glad to see they're out of beta.  So, when can I create, edit, view and share documents on Google Docs from my Google G1 Android phone?  So far, you can edit and view spreadsheets (to a limited extent) but you can't create them, nor use any of the other doc types.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Glad to see they 're out of beta .
So , when can I create , edit , view and share documents on Google Docs from my Google G1 Android phone ?
So far , you can edit and view spreadsheets ( to a limited extent ) but you ca n't create them , nor use any of the other doc types .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Glad to see they're out of beta.
So, when can I create, edit, view and share documents on Google Docs from my Google G1 Android phone?
So far, you can edit and view spreadsheets (to a limited extent) but you can't create them, nor use any of the other doc types.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28619065</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247045460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have left out Google Chrome OS officially announced a few hours back - http://tinyurl.com/mkt6lv</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have left out Google Chrome OS officially announced a few hours back - http : //tinyurl.com/mkt6lv</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have left out Google Chrome OS officially announced a few hours back - http://tinyurl.com/mkt6lv</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611059</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>Tweenk</author>
	<datestamp>1246992840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can see where it's going:<br>- CAFC declares all software-only patents invalid<br>- Microsoft releases ODF compatibility pack for all versions of Office as a critical update<br>- SCO is officially dissolved<br>- Apple declares it will implement Theora in HTML5<br>- Adobe open sources Flash Player<br>- Kim Jong-il's residence blown up in a North Korean nuclear test mishap<br>- Michael Jackson jumps out of the coffin and performs "Thriller" at his funeral to a shocked audience</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can see where it 's going : - CAFC declares all software-only patents invalid- Microsoft releases ODF compatibility pack for all versions of Office as a critical update- SCO is officially dissolved- Apple declares it will implement Theora in HTML5- Adobe open sources Flash Player- Kim Jong-il 's residence blown up in a North Korean nuclear test mishap- Michael Jackson jumps out of the coffin and performs " Thriller " at his funeral to a shocked audience</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can see where it's going:- CAFC declares all software-only patents invalid- Microsoft releases ODF compatibility pack for all versions of Office as a critical update- SCO is officially dissolved- Apple declares it will implement Theora in HTML5- Adobe open sources Flash Player- Kim Jong-il's residence blown up in a North Korean nuclear test mishap- Michael Jackson jumps out of the coffin and performs "Thriller" at his funeral to a shocked audience</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610363</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>Capt.DrumkenBum</author>
	<datestamp>1246990380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You missed CompuServe closes down.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>You missed CompuServe closes down .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You missed CompuServe closes down.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609805</id>
	<title>I use Google Apps, but</title>
	<author>C\_Kode</author>
	<datestamp>1246987920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We use Google Apps for business purposes, but selectively.  It just doesn't work for all my documents.  By the term "all", I mean most.  We basically use it to keep track of certain project details among other things, but not for any of our real documents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We use Google Apps for business purposes , but selectively .
It just does n't work for all my documents .
By the term " all " , I mean most .
We basically use it to keep track of certain project details among other things , but not for any of our real documents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We use Google Apps for business purposes, but selectively.
It just doesn't work for all my documents.
By the term "all", I mean most.
We basically use it to keep track of certain project details among other things, but not for any of our real documents.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609819</id>
	<title>VICTORY</title>
	<author>indre1</author>
	<datestamp>1246988040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>VICTORY, at last I can start to use Gmail!</htmltext>
<tokenext>VICTORY , at last I can start to use Gmail !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VICTORY, at last I can start to use Gmail!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28613581</id>
	<title>Re:Nooooo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246959540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to worry.  From GMail Labs:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Back to Beta<br>by Darren</p><p>Soothes the soul by putting the familiar beta sticker back on the Gmail logo.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to worry .
From GMail Labs : Back to Betaby DarrenSoothes the soul by putting the familiar beta sticker back on the Gmail logo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to worry.
From GMail Labs:Back to Betaby DarrenSoothes the soul by putting the familiar beta sticker back on the Gmail logo.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609947</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609959</id>
	<title>"BETA" Already gone</title>
	<author>PhilHibbs</author>
	<datestamp>1246988700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just hit Shift-Refresh and the "BETA" suffix is no longer there on Gmail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just hit Shift-Refresh and the " BETA " suffix is no longer there on Gmail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just hit Shift-Refresh and the "BETA" suffix is no longer there on Gmail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610195</id>
	<title>100 million</title>
	<author>necro81</author>
	<datestamp>1246989600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Gmail has <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gmail&amp;oldid=300817226" title="wikipedia.org">100 million users and has been around over five years</a> [wikipedia.org].  Apps has 1.75 million.  So, yes, about damn time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gmail has 100 million users and has been around over five years [ wikipedia.org ] .
Apps has 1.75 million .
So , yes , about damn time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gmail has 100 million users and has been around over five years [wikipedia.org].
Apps has 1.75 million.
So, yes, about damn time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28612117</id>
	<title>No MJ?</title>
	<author>antdude</author>
	<datestamp>1246996920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nothing for Michael Jackson?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing for Michael Jackson ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing for Michael Jackson?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611103</id>
	<title>Re:Beta</title>
	<author>JCZwart</author>
	<datestamp>1246993140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except they're free... And who would pay good money for a beta anyway, sounds like stupidity to me.<br>
<br>
No, free beta apps that do their jobs well enough are for people like you and me, people that think it's cool to have their agendas online.<br>
<br>
Business users use Outlook and/or Exchange. However, these 'casual users' of free beta apps DO provide valuable input - and they probably won't be abandoning their free beta apps as well, since those might not be bug-free yet, but ARE still in development - and, well, free.<br>
<br>
So that's where Google is: they have their broad user base, providing them with the necessary info to improve their apps, and a considerable 'fan base' as a nice side effect. The next step would obviously be to get out of the beta stage, so the Google apps will be seen as mature enough to compete with the Serious Business level's applications!<br>
<br>
Really, I think Google is employing a cool PR strategy here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except they 're free... And who would pay good money for a beta anyway , sounds like stupidity to me .
No , free beta apps that do their jobs well enough are for people like you and me , people that think it 's cool to have their agendas online .
Business users use Outlook and/or Exchange .
However , these 'casual users ' of free beta apps DO provide valuable input - and they probably wo n't be abandoning their free beta apps as well , since those might not be bug-free yet , but ARE still in development - and , well , free .
So that 's where Google is : they have their broad user base , providing them with the necessary info to improve their apps , and a considerable 'fan base ' as a nice side effect .
The next step would obviously be to get out of the beta stage , so the Google apps will be seen as mature enough to compete with the Serious Business level 's applications !
Really , I think Google is employing a cool PR strategy here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except they're free... And who would pay good money for a beta anyway, sounds like stupidity to me.
No, free beta apps that do their jobs well enough are for people like you and me, people that think it's cool to have their agendas online.
Business users use Outlook and/or Exchange.
However, these 'casual users' of free beta apps DO provide valuable input - and they probably won't be abandoning their free beta apps as well, since those might not be bug-free yet, but ARE still in development - and, well, free.
So that's where Google is: they have their broad user base, providing them with the necessary info to improve their apps, and a considerable 'fan base' as a nice side effect.
The next step would obviously be to get out of the beta stage, so the Google apps will be seen as mature enough to compete with the Serious Business level's applications!
Really, I think Google is employing a cool PR strategy here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609721</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28615441</id>
	<title>Re:holy shit!</title>
	<author>bigngamer92</author>
	<datestamp>1246968060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"I haven't been this surprised since <b>Facebook</b> turned a profit."

<p>Fixed that for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I have n't been this surprised since Facebook turned a profit .
" Fixed that for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I haven't been this surprised since Facebook turned a profit.
"

Fixed that for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609905</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610521</id>
	<title>Re:wtf</title>
	<author>fishbowl</author>
	<datestamp>1246990920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;If they don't have a definition for "beta" then why was it there in the first place?</p><p>They don't need a definition.  If you were going to sue Google, they'd be able to say "Not only did it have no warranty, but it was also marked 'beta' which is common vernacular in the software industry for 'in testing' or 'if it breaks you get both pieces.'"</p><p>It would not be hard to get an expert witness to say that to a judge.  I would.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; If they do n't have a definition for " beta " then why was it there in the first place ? They do n't need a definition .
If you were going to sue Google , they 'd be able to say " Not only did it have no warranty , but it was also marked 'beta ' which is common vernacular in the software industry for 'in testing ' or 'if it breaks you get both pieces .
' " It would not be hard to get an expert witness to say that to a judge .
I would .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;If they don't have a definition for "beta" then why was it there in the first place?They don't need a definition.
If you were going to sue Google, they'd be able to say "Not only did it have no warranty, but it was also marked 'beta' which is common vernacular in the software industry for 'in testing' or 'if it breaks you get both pieces.
'"It would not be hard to get an expert witness to say that to a judge.
I would.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609803</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611633</id>
	<title>Re:wtf</title>
	<author>log1385</author>
	<datestamp>1246995060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh, but they do have a definition.<br><br>Beta (bay'-tuh) n. 1. A tag that doesn't fit for large enterprises: "We've come to appreciate that the beta tag just doesn't fit for large enterprises that aren't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it's still in the trial phase."  2. Something that looks cool: "for those who still like the look of "beta", we've made it easy to re-enable the beta label for Gmail from the Labs tab under Settings."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , but they do have a definition.Beta ( bay'-tuh ) n. 1. A tag that does n't fit for large enterprises : " We 've come to appreciate that the beta tag just does n't fit for large enterprises that are n't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it 's still in the trial phase .
" 2 .
Something that looks cool : " for those who still like the look of " beta " , we 've made it easy to re-enable the beta label for Gmail from the Labs tab under Settings .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, but they do have a definition.Beta (bay'-tuh) n. 1. A tag that doesn't fit for large enterprises: "We've come to appreciate that the beta tag just doesn't fit for large enterprises that aren't keen to run their business on software that sounds like it's still in the trial phase.
"  2.
Something that looks cool: "for those who still like the look of "beta", we've made it easy to re-enable the beta label for Gmail from the Labs tab under Settings.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609803</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</id>
	<title>Today is a good day</title>
	<author>SilverHatHacker</author>
	<datestamp>1246988160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>So many things today I didn't see coming! <br>
-We finally get a straight answer from Microsoft on C#, in favour of OSS <br>
-Russia and the US agree to disarm <br>
-Microsoft admits there's a security flaw in ActiveX <br>
-VLC reaches 1.0 <br>
-Google's stuff gets out of Beta <br>
Either I need to pay more attention, or drop my cynicism. I guess I kind of expected them to happen, just not for a while yet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So many things today I did n't see coming !
-We finally get a straight answer from Microsoft on C # , in favour of OSS -Russia and the US agree to disarm -Microsoft admits there 's a security flaw in ActiveX -VLC reaches 1.0 -Google 's stuff gets out of Beta Either I need to pay more attention , or drop my cynicism .
I guess I kind of expected them to happen , just not for a while yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So many things today I didn't see coming!
-We finally get a straight answer from Microsoft on C#, in favour of OSS 
-Russia and the US agree to disarm 
-Microsoft admits there's a security flaw in ActiveX 
-VLC reaches 1.0 
-Google's stuff gets out of Beta 
Either I need to pay more attention, or drop my cynicism.
I guess I kind of expected them to happen, just not for a while yet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610141</id>
	<title>Is a bird! Is a plane!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246989360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is a pig flying!<br><br>By the time you finally accepted the fact that the full name of the product wasnt "Gmail", but "Gmail Beta", they changed the rules, say that all was a joke, and that the real name was all the time Gmail, that was in beta stage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is a pig flying ! By the time you finally accepted the fact that the full name of the product wasnt " Gmail " , but " Gmail Beta " , they changed the rules , say that all was a joke , and that the real name was all the time Gmail , that was in beta stage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is a pig flying!By the time you finally accepted the fact that the full name of the product wasnt "Gmail", but "Gmail Beta", they changed the rules, say that all was a joke, and that the real name was all the time Gmail, that was in beta stage.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609803</id>
	<title>wtf</title>
	<author>trybywrench</author>
	<datestamp>1246987920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they don't have a definition for "beta" then why was it there in the first place?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they do n't have a definition for " beta " then why was it there in the first place ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they don't have a definition for "beta" then why was it there in the first place?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610519</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246990920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>a black president?  are you serious?  his mom looks really white to me:

<a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Ann\_Dunham\_with\_father\_and\_children\_(enhanced).jpg" title="wikimedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Ann\_Dunham\_with\_father\_and\_children\_(enhanced).jpg</a> [wikimedia.org]

racist comments such as yours prove to me that america is still not ready for a black president.</htmltext>
<tokenext>a black president ?
are you serious ?
his mom looks really white to me : http : //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Ann \ _Dunham \ _with \ _father \ _and \ _children \ _ ( enhanced ) .jpg [ wikimedia.org ] racist comments such as yours prove to me that america is still not ready for a black president .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a black president?
are you serious?
his mom looks really white to me:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Ann\_Dunham\_with\_father\_and\_children\_(enhanced).jpg [wikimedia.org]

racist comments such as yours prove to me that america is still not ready for a black president.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610339</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610281</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>zx75</author>
	<datestamp>1246989960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just more things to add to the list of things that have happened since Duke Nukem Forever was announced.</p><p>(Yes, I know it's dead...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just more things to add to the list of things that have happened since Duke Nukem Forever was announced .
( Yes , I know it 's dead... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just more things to add to the list of things that have happened since Duke Nukem Forever was announced.
(Yes, I know it's dead...)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610213</id>
	<title>Google Apps needs a localized server option</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246989660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree.<br>I work in an industry were privacy laws mandate that I maintain complete control of our emails/docs.<br>I would kill to be able to use Gmail, but legally I can't have my emails sitting on Google's servers.<br>When are they going to come out with a localized server I can maintain control of?<br>I know not Google's MAIN revenue idea, but IIRC they had localized servers for searching a while back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree.I work in an industry were privacy laws mandate that I maintain complete control of our emails/docs.I would kill to be able to use Gmail , but legally I ca n't have my emails sitting on Google 's servers.When are they going to come out with a localized server I can maintain control of ? I know not Google 's MAIN revenue idea , but IIRC they had localized servers for searching a while back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.I work in an industry were privacy laws mandate that I maintain complete control of our emails/docs.I would kill to be able to use Gmail, but legally I can't have my emails sitting on Google's servers.When are they going to come out with a localized server I can maintain control of?I know not Google's MAIN revenue idea, but IIRC they had localized servers for searching a while back.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609805</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28620351</id>
	<title>Not beta my arse...</title>
	<author>weiquin</author>
	<datestamp>1247061060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They should have fixed the following before claiming non-beta status:
<br> <br>
1) The inability to select text in the chat window that is further down (or up) the window (if you need to scroll, you're screwed because the damned selection disappears)
<br> <br>
2) The irritating bug where if someone happens to send you a message while you're editing your own message, the cursor inexplicably jumps to the end of your message, causing profanities to profusely issue from one's mouth.
<br> <br>
3) Like 2) above except, as an added bonus, the damned cursor actually does a disappearing act, leaving you groping around in the dark on your hands and knees like a 2400 baud modem user.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They should have fixed the following before claiming non-beta status : 1 ) The inability to select text in the chat window that is further down ( or up ) the window ( if you need to scroll , you 're screwed because the damned selection disappears ) 2 ) The irritating bug where if someone happens to send you a message while you 're editing your own message , the cursor inexplicably jumps to the end of your message , causing profanities to profusely issue from one 's mouth .
3 ) Like 2 ) above except , as an added bonus , the damned cursor actually does a disappearing act , leaving you groping around in the dark on your hands and knees like a 2400 baud modem user .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should have fixed the following before claiming non-beta status:
 
1) The inability to select text in the chat window that is further down (or up) the window (if you need to scroll, you're screwed because the damned selection disappears)
 
2) The irritating bug where if someone happens to send you a message while you're editing your own message, the cursor inexplicably jumps to the end of your message, causing profanities to profusely issue from one's mouth.
3) Like 2) above except, as an added bonus, the damned cursor actually does a disappearing act, leaving you groping around in the dark on your hands and knees like a 2400 baud modem user.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610659</id>
	<title>Re:Beta</title>
	<author>m.ducharme</author>
	<datestamp>1246991460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>True enough. Of course, every other software company just hides their liability disclaimers in the EULA. That's ever so much more honest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>True enough .
Of course , every other software company just hides their liability disclaimers in the EULA .
That 's ever so much more honest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True enough.
Of course, every other software company just hides their liability disclaimers in the EULA.
That's ever so much more honest.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609721</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610271</id>
	<title>Re:Today is a good day</title>
	<author>ratnerstar</author>
	<datestamp>1246989900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, and I didn't even have to use my AK!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and I did n't even have to use my AK !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and I didn't even have to use my AK!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609859</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609947</id>
	<title>Nooooo!</title>
	<author>bomanbot</author>
	<datestamp>1246988580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is just great. Google Mail is finally out of Beta. Duke Nukem Forever is cancelled. If finally there is a year of Linux on the Desktop, only an unfinished GNU Hurd stands between us and the Apocalypse...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just great .
Google Mail is finally out of Beta .
Duke Nukem Forever is cancelled .
If finally there is a year of Linux on the Desktop , only an unfinished GNU Hurd stands between us and the Apocalypse... ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is just great.
Google Mail is finally out of Beta.
Duke Nukem Forever is cancelled.
If finally there is a year of Linux on the Desktop, only an unfinished GNU Hurd stands between us and the Apocalypse... ;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611461</id>
	<title>Re:Beta</title>
	<author>SlashDotDotDot</author>
	<datestamp>1246994400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read the summary and then hit ctrl-tab to go to my Gmail tab, which had been open for about 4 hours.  It still said beta by the logo.  I hit ctrl-r to reload and the beta was gone!  Easiest upgrade ever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read the summary and then hit ctrl-tab to go to my Gmail tab , which had been open for about 4 hours .
It still said beta by the logo .
I hit ctrl-r to reload and the beta was gone !
Easiest upgrade ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read the summary and then hit ctrl-tab to go to my Gmail tab, which had been open for about 4 hours.
It still said beta by the logo.
I hit ctrl-r to reload and the beta was gone!
Easiest upgrade ever.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28609721</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28612665</id>
	<title>Re:Some say that the freebie version will end, too</title>
	<author>trogdor8667</author>
	<datestamp>1246998960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's still there, it's just moved on the page. Under the big "Try the 30 Day Trial" button is the "Or explore Google Apps Standard", which does have a sign up page.</p><p><a href="http://www.google.com/a/cpanel/domain/new" title="google.com">http://www.google.com/a/cpanel/domain/new</a> [google.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's still there , it 's just moved on the page .
Under the big " Try the 30 Day Trial " button is the " Or explore Google Apps Standard " , which does have a sign up page.http : //www.google.com/a/cpanel/domain/new [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's still there, it's just moved on the page.
Under the big "Try the 30 Day Trial" button is the "Or explore Google Apps Standard", which does have a sign up page.http://www.google.com/a/cpanel/domain/new [google.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28614585</id>
	<title>Re:Some say that the freebie version will end, too</title>
	<author>ebs16</author>
	<datestamp>1246963560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html</a> [google.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html [google.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28611909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1526237.28610127</id>
	<title>Google translation tool</title>
	<author>hcs\_$reboot</author>
	<datestamp>1246989240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google mail was working fairly well for a long time while flanked with a Beta label.
Amusingly, Google translation being probably at its best does not have any "Beta" label - while the quality of the translations (I'm interested in the Japanese to English translations) is so desperately poor that I usually have to do a manual lengthy <em>kanji</em> by <em>kanji</em> research all the time.

Translation is certainly the least of Google worries - it should deserve a big Beta somewhere (or even Alpha).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google mail was working fairly well for a long time while flanked with a Beta label .
Amusingly , Google translation being probably at its best does not have any " Beta " label - while the quality of the translations ( I 'm interested in the Japanese to English translations ) is so desperately poor that I usually have to do a manual lengthy kanji by kanji research all the time .
Translation is certainly the least of Google worries - it should deserve a big Beta somewhere ( or even Alpha ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google mail was working fairly well for a long time while flanked with a Beta label.
Amusingly, Google translation being probably at its best does not have any "Beta" label - while the quality of the translations (I'm interested in the Japanese to English translations) is so desperately poor that I usually have to do a manual lengthy kanji by kanji research all the time.
Translation is certainly the least of Google worries - it should deserve a big Beta somewhere (or even Alpha).</sentencetext>
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