<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_06_1418225</id>
	<title>Andreessen's Secret Plan To Find the Next Netscape</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1246891620000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hughpickens.com/slashdot/" rel="nofollow">Hugh Pickens</a> writes <i>"CNN reports that <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/02/technology/marc\_andreessen\_venture\_fund.fortune/?postversion=2009070604">Netscape co-founder Marc Andreessen has raised $300 million to launch a new venture capital firm</a> that aims to reinvent the way money is doled out in Silicon Valley while reflecting Andreessen's unwavering view that the Internet will soon take over all aspects of our lives and that online services won't merely supplement your TV viewing or newspaper reading, but will replace those activities altogether. Andreessen, on the board of Facebook and an angel investor in Twitter, says that technology moves so quickly that only the young can keep up with what the latest stuff can do. 'So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old &mdash; who was 24 just five years ago &mdash; would never think of,' say Andreessen. 'We love that kind of thing.'  Andreessen thinks that when companies are acquired too quickly, innovation slows down, and he says that <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/google/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=217900238">YouTube might have come up with a path to profitability faster</a> if it wasn't a part of Google. 'It is hard for big ones to out-execute up-and-comers,' Andreessen says. '<a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/andreessen-horowitzs-secret-plan/">Our secret plan is to watch what gets acquired and fund the next company</a>. A good template is to fund companies doing whichever the next-generation product would have been.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hugh Pickens writes " CNN reports that Netscape co-founder Marc Andreessen has raised $ 300 million to launch a new venture capital firm that aims to reinvent the way money is doled out in Silicon Valley while reflecting Andreessen 's unwavering view that the Internet will soon take over all aspects of our lives and that online services wo n't merely supplement your TV viewing or newspaper reading , but will replace those activities altogether .
Andreessen , on the board of Facebook and an angel investor in Twitter , says that technology moves so quickly that only the young can keep up with what the latest stuff can do .
'So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old    who was 24 just five years ago    would never think of, ' say Andreessen .
'We love that kind of thing .
' Andreessen thinks that when companies are acquired too quickly , innovation slows down , and he says that YouTube might have come up with a path to profitability faster if it was n't a part of Google .
'It is hard for big ones to out-execute up-and-comers, ' Andreessen says .
'Our secret plan is to watch what gets acquired and fund the next company .
A good template is to fund companies doing whichever the next-generation product would have been .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hugh Pickens writes "CNN reports that Netscape co-founder Marc Andreessen has raised $300 million to launch a new venture capital firm that aims to reinvent the way money is doled out in Silicon Valley while reflecting Andreessen's unwavering view that the Internet will soon take over all aspects of our lives and that online services won't merely supplement your TV viewing or newspaper reading, but will replace those activities altogether.
Andreessen, on the board of Facebook and an angel investor in Twitter, says that technology moves so quickly that only the young can keep up with what the latest stuff can do.
'So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old — who was 24 just five years ago — would never think of,' say Andreessen.
'We love that kind of thing.
'  Andreessen thinks that when companies are acquired too quickly, innovation slows down, and he says that YouTube might have come up with a path to profitability faster if it wasn't a part of Google.
'It is hard for big ones to out-execute up-and-comers,' Andreessen says.
'Our secret plan is to watch what gets acquired and fund the next company.
A good template is to fund companies doing whichever the next-generation product would have been.
'"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594789</id>
	<title>I call bullshit.</title>
	<author>justanetgod</author>
	<datestamp>1246896960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This guy has a track record of following behind and just missing.  The plan sounds like a mission statement rather than an actual plan, and the preconception that age has anything to do with innovation at all is crap thinking.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This guy has a track record of following behind and just missing .
The plan sounds like a mission statement rather than an actual plan , and the preconception that age has anything to do with innovation at all is crap thinking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This guy has a track record of following behind and just missing.
The plan sounds like a mission statement rather than an actual plan, and the preconception that age has anything to do with innovation at all is crap thinking.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594861</id>
	<title>glory days</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246897380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Andreessen had his shot.  He choked.  Next.</p><p>At least he cashed out enough so he can play business boy forever.  whatever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Andreessen had his shot .
He choked .
Next.At least he cashed out enough so he can play business boy forever .
whatever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Andreessen had his shot.
He choked.
Next.At least he cashed out enough so he can play business boy forever.
whatever.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28598457</id>
	<title>He's behind the curve - by definition</title>
	<author>Presence1</author>
	<datestamp>1246912500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Our secret plan is to watch what gets acquired and fund the next company."<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .<br>Anyone who is following is, by definition, behind.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .<br>By the time any company grows and gets acquired, the ship has not only left the dock, it has arrived at its next port of call.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .<br>Even trying to  "fund companies doing whichever the next-generation product would have been." is a hopelessly backwards-looking strategy.  I've always had the impression that Andreessen is stuck in 1995, so I guess it is no surprise that he hasn't got the confidence to generate any new groudbreaking ideas himself, and the best he can come up with is A) watching what gets bought, and B) trying to fund 24-year olds as if they are wiser.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; .<br>If this is the best he can think of, he's sunk, and the investors deserve what they will get, which is plenty of capital losses for their tax returns.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Our secret plan is to watch what gets acquired and fund the next company .
"       .Anyone who is following is , by definition , behind .
      .By the time any company grows and gets acquired , the ship has not only left the dock , it has arrived at its next port of call .
      .Even trying to " fund companies doing whichever the next-generation product would have been .
" is a hopelessly backwards-looking strategy .
I 've always had the impression that Andreessen is stuck in 1995 , so I guess it is no surprise that he has n't got the confidence to generate any new groudbreaking ideas himself , and the best he can come up with is A ) watching what gets bought , and B ) trying to fund 24-year olds as if they are wiser .
        .If this is the best he can think of , he 's sunk , and the investors deserve what they will get , which is plenty of capital losses for their tax returns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Our secret plan is to watch what gets acquired and fund the next company.
"
      .Anyone who is following is, by definition, behind.
      .By the time any company grows and gets acquired, the ship has not only left the dock, it has arrived at its next port of call.
      .Even trying to  "fund companies doing whichever the next-generation product would have been.
" is a hopelessly backwards-looking strategy.
I've always had the impression that Andreessen is stuck in 1995, so I guess it is no surprise that he hasn't got the confidence to generate any new groudbreaking ideas himself, and the best he can come up with is A) watching what gets bought, and B) trying to fund 24-year olds as if they are wiser.
        .If this is the best he can think of, he's sunk, and the investors deserve what they will get, which is plenty of capital losses for their tax returns.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28596213</id>
	<title>His guesses aren't any better than yours</title>
	<author>HangingChad</author>
	<datestamp>1246903260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the same dirtbag who helped SCO craft their litigation strategy against IBM and Linux.  Claiming that he was somehow instrumental in many of the software channels we use today.  I never did figure what channels he was talking about, but apparently he's not getting mega rich off them if he's out begging for VC money.

</p><p>Look where SCO is today.  Barely breathing in bankruptcy court.

</p><p>Netscape got spanked, SCO was a loser...you really want this guy investing your money?  Seems more like a giant ego linked to an opportunist who gets more publicity than he rates if you ask me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the same dirtbag who helped SCO craft their litigation strategy against IBM and Linux .
Claiming that he was somehow instrumental in many of the software channels we use today .
I never did figure what channels he was talking about , but apparently he 's not getting mega rich off them if he 's out begging for VC money .
Look where SCO is today .
Barely breathing in bankruptcy court .
Netscape got spanked , SCO was a loser...you really want this guy investing your money ?
Seems more like a giant ego linked to an opportunist who gets more publicity than he rates if you ask me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the same dirtbag who helped SCO craft their litigation strategy against IBM and Linux.
Claiming that he was somehow instrumental in many of the software channels we use today.
I never did figure what channels he was talking about, but apparently he's not getting mega rich off them if he's out begging for VC money.
Look where SCO is today.
Barely breathing in bankruptcy court.
Netscape got spanked, SCO was a loser...you really want this guy investing your money?
Seems more like a giant ego linked to an opportunist who gets more publicity than he rates if you ask me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595399</id>
	<title>Youth is overrated.</title>
	<author>owlnation</author>
	<datestamp>1246899840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's so much wrong with this young, arrogant fool touting his ageism. Young people are not necessarily the crux of innovation.<br> <br>

Working in the creative industries, it's easy to see that the arrogance and folly of youth might get you noticed and the attention of other young people -- but most great art is done by people with decades of experience. Compare the early work of any artist to their later work and you will see that in most cases.<br> <br>

The trouble with technology and the internet in particular -- is that it is seen as a "young person's medium". It's often just a get rich quick scheme for investors. Many of the new internet ideas have made a great deal of money for a small number of people, but they all have limited shelf life, and their users grow up and mature and seek other things. Yahoo, Facebook, MySpace, are dwindling. Geocities, Altavista, Netscape, and many, many more are all but gone. Twitter will follow them shortly.<br> <br>

The problem is, these innovations are shallow and mostly only appeal to young people. Nobody under 25 is looking at sustainable, reliable, usable services for the over 30s. It's all just fad and fashion and plugging a gap to get rich quick. This is not really innovation.<br> <br>

I've seen very little innovation on the internet in the past 10 years. Google came, changed search, and stayed the same. Social networking and blogs are easier to use and more marketed, but not significantly different from many BBS and similar at the beginning of the web. Google Earth is innovative, bittorrent is innovative, and perhaps there are a few other things. But on the whole the legacy of developers and entrepreneurs in their 20s is just using the same old tech with lots of hype and buzzwords.<br> <br>

DaVinci, Edison, Tesla, and many, many, many, many more, kept truly innovating late into life. As their experience grew, they made better inventions.<br> <br>

Sorry, but this precocious, silly little boy needs slapped. He does not know as much as he thinks he knows. Maybe he will get rich. But it is not likely he will really do anything of any importance to future generations for many years to come.<br> <br>

Now get off my lawn...</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's so much wrong with this young , arrogant fool touting his ageism .
Young people are not necessarily the crux of innovation .
Working in the creative industries , it 's easy to see that the arrogance and folly of youth might get you noticed and the attention of other young people -- but most great art is done by people with decades of experience .
Compare the early work of any artist to their later work and you will see that in most cases .
The trouble with technology and the internet in particular -- is that it is seen as a " young person 's medium " .
It 's often just a get rich quick scheme for investors .
Many of the new internet ideas have made a great deal of money for a small number of people , but they all have limited shelf life , and their users grow up and mature and seek other things .
Yahoo , Facebook , MySpace , are dwindling .
Geocities , Altavista , Netscape , and many , many more are all but gone .
Twitter will follow them shortly .
The problem is , these innovations are shallow and mostly only appeal to young people .
Nobody under 25 is looking at sustainable , reliable , usable services for the over 30s .
It 's all just fad and fashion and plugging a gap to get rich quick .
This is not really innovation .
I 've seen very little innovation on the internet in the past 10 years .
Google came , changed search , and stayed the same .
Social networking and blogs are easier to use and more marketed , but not significantly different from many BBS and similar at the beginning of the web .
Google Earth is innovative , bittorrent is innovative , and perhaps there are a few other things .
But on the whole the legacy of developers and entrepreneurs in their 20s is just using the same old tech with lots of hype and buzzwords .
DaVinci , Edison , Tesla , and many , many , many , many more , kept truly innovating late into life .
As their experience grew , they made better inventions .
Sorry , but this precocious , silly little boy needs slapped .
He does not know as much as he thinks he knows .
Maybe he will get rich .
But it is not likely he will really do anything of any importance to future generations for many years to come .
Now get off my lawn.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's so much wrong with this young, arrogant fool touting his ageism.
Young people are not necessarily the crux of innovation.
Working in the creative industries, it's easy to see that the arrogance and folly of youth might get you noticed and the attention of other young people -- but most great art is done by people with decades of experience.
Compare the early work of any artist to their later work and you will see that in most cases.
The trouble with technology and the internet in particular -- is that it is seen as a "young person's medium".
It's often just a get rich quick scheme for investors.
Many of the new internet ideas have made a great deal of money for a small number of people, but they all have limited shelf life, and their users grow up and mature and seek other things.
Yahoo, Facebook, MySpace, are dwindling.
Geocities, Altavista, Netscape, and many, many more are all but gone.
Twitter will follow them shortly.
The problem is, these innovations are shallow and mostly only appeal to young people.
Nobody under 25 is looking at sustainable, reliable, usable services for the over 30s.
It's all just fad and fashion and plugging a gap to get rich quick.
This is not really innovation.
I've seen very little innovation on the internet in the past 10 years.
Google came, changed search, and stayed the same.
Social networking and blogs are easier to use and more marketed, but not significantly different from many BBS and similar at the beginning of the web.
Google Earth is innovative, bittorrent is innovative, and perhaps there are a few other things.
But on the whole the legacy of developers and entrepreneurs in their 20s is just using the same old tech with lots of hype and buzzwords.
DaVinci, Edison, Tesla, and many, many, many, many more, kept truly innovating late into life.
As their experience grew, they made better inventions.
Sorry, but this precocious, silly little boy needs slapped.
He does not know as much as he thinks he knows.
Maybe he will get rich.
But it is not likely he will really do anything of any importance to future generations for many years to come.
Now get off my lawn...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594559</id>
	<title>Umm</title>
	<author>mewsenews</author>
	<datestamp>1246895700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago -- would never think of," say Andreessen. "We love that kind of thing."</p></div></blockquote><p>So how old in Andreessen and how will he recognize the 24yo luminary from the 24yo that is full of shit?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago -- would never think of , " say Andreessen .
" We love that kind of thing .
" So how old in Andreessen and how will he recognize the 24yo luminary from the 24yo that is full of shit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago -- would never think of," say Andreessen.
"We love that kind of thing.
"So how old in Andreessen and how will he recognize the 24yo luminary from the 24yo that is full of shit?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594521</id>
	<title>age discrimination</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246895580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> "So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old &#226;" who was 24 just five years ago &#226;" would never think of," say Andreessen. "We love that kind of thing." </i></p><p>Great. More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.</p><p>I'm obsolete at 36.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old   " who was 24 just five years ago   " would never think of , " say Andreessen .
" We love that kind of thing .
" Great .
More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.I 'm obsolete at 36 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old â" who was 24 just five years ago â" would never think of," say Andreessen.
"We love that kind of thing.
" Great.
More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.I'm obsolete at 36.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28604353</id>
	<title>Hot air</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246906380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The last time he had near monopoly on a product he designed, he couldn't make it fly and sustain. What makes him think he can with someone else's ideas? Pompous ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The last time he had near monopoly on a product he designed , he could n't make it fly and sustain .
What makes him think he can with someone else 's ideas ?
Pompous ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The last time he had near monopoly on a product he designed, he couldn't make it fly and sustain.
What makes him think he can with someone else's ideas?
Pompous ass.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595761</id>
	<title>Re:obsolete already</title>
	<author>Fantastic Lad</author>
	<datestamp>1246901400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Very true, which means. . .</p><p>According to Andreessen's own remarks, he's already dangerously behind the curve.</p><p>-FL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Very true , which means .
. .According to Andreessen 's own remarks , he 's already dangerously behind the curve.-FL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very true, which means.
. .According to Andreessen's own remarks, he's already dangerously behind the curve.-FL</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28597855</id>
	<title>Nonsense!</title>
	<author>Phoenix666</author>
	<datestamp>1246909680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's one thing to have an idea, and another entirely to monetize it and another thing entirely again to run a company that does it profitably.  Yes, there are a few young people out there who can do all those things, but mostly they don't have the maturity or experience to do the critical latter two of those three tasks.  They wind up blowing all the money on phat office furnishings and pool tables and parties so they can have hip, creative environments to inspire their genius, and only when the bank accounts begin to run dry do they wake up and realize that oh yeah! they need to make money.  And from there 99\% of the time it turns into a circular firing squad that ruins lives and sends many investors to the poor house.  This attitude is, after all, what drove the last dot-com craze and is exactly what brought it down in the end.  Same thing is happening to MySpace now, and still guys like Andreesen come back with the same playbook over and over again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's one thing to have an idea , and another entirely to monetize it and another thing entirely again to run a company that does it profitably .
Yes , there are a few young people out there who can do all those things , but mostly they do n't have the maturity or experience to do the critical latter two of those three tasks .
They wind up blowing all the money on phat office furnishings and pool tables and parties so they can have hip , creative environments to inspire their genius , and only when the bank accounts begin to run dry do they wake up and realize that oh yeah !
they need to make money .
And from there 99 \ % of the time it turns into a circular firing squad that ruins lives and sends many investors to the poor house .
This attitude is , after all , what drove the last dot-com craze and is exactly what brought it down in the end .
Same thing is happening to MySpace now , and still guys like Andreesen come back with the same playbook over and over again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's one thing to have an idea, and another entirely to monetize it and another thing entirely again to run a company that does it profitably.
Yes, there are a few young people out there who can do all those things, but mostly they don't have the maturity or experience to do the critical latter two of those three tasks.
They wind up blowing all the money on phat office furnishings and pool tables and parties so they can have hip, creative environments to inspire their genius, and only when the bank accounts begin to run dry do they wake up and realize that oh yeah!
they need to make money.
And from there 99\% of the time it turns into a circular firing squad that ruins lives and sends many investors to the poor house.
This attitude is, after all, what drove the last dot-com craze and is exactly what brought it down in the end.
Same thing is happening to MySpace now, and still guys like Andreesen come back with the same playbook over and over again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595433</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>Jason Levine</author>
	<datestamp>1246900020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So am I apparently with less than a month before I turn 34.  But don't worry, because Marc Anderson is even more obselete than we are.  This Wednesday (July 9th), he'll turn 38.  That's positively ancient.  By his own reasoning, he should be checking into a retirement community soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So am I apparently with less than a month before I turn 34 .
But do n't worry , because Marc Anderson is even more obselete than we are .
This Wednesday ( July 9th ) , he 'll turn 38 .
That 's positively ancient .
By his own reasoning , he should be checking into a retirement community soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So am I apparently with less than a month before I turn 34.
But don't worry, because Marc Anderson is even more obselete than we are.
This Wednesday (July 9th), he'll turn 38.
That's positively ancient.
By his own reasoning, he should be checking into a retirement community soon.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28597777</id>
	<title>Andreessen's cloud startup investment</title>
	<author>1sockchuck</author>
	<datestamp>1246909380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the companies that Andreessen/Horowitz are funding is virtualization/cloud computing startup <a href="http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/06/29/andreessen-backed-startup-targets-cloud/" title="datacenterknowledge.com">webappvm</a> [datacenterknowledge.com], which recently demonstrated its technology at a Sun Microsystems event.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the companies that Andreessen/Horowitz are funding is virtualization/cloud computing startup webappvm [ datacenterknowledge.com ] , which recently demonstrated its technology at a Sun Microsystems event .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the companies that Andreessen/Horowitz are funding is virtualization/cloud computing startup webappvm [datacenterknowledge.com], which recently demonstrated its technology at a Sun Microsystems event.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28596859</id>
	<title>YUO FAIl IT..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246905720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">www.anti-slash.org it will be among list of other Mu)ch as Windows rapid,</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>www.anti-slash.org it will be among list of other Mu ) ch as Windows rapid , [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>www.anti-slash.org it will be among list of other Mu)ch as Windows rapid, [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595485</id>
	<title>Re:Umm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246900260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <em>how will he recognize the 24yo luminary from the 24yo that is full of shit?</em> </p><p>It doesn't matter, as long
as I can find the right 24 yo, coach
him properly, and put him in front of
Andreeson in exchange for a percentage
of the take.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>how will he recognize the 24yo luminary from the 24yo that is full of shit ?
It does n't matter , as long as I can find the right 24 yo , coach him properly , and put him in front of Andreeson in exchange for a percentage of the take .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> how will he recognize the 24yo luminary from the 24yo that is full of shit?
It doesn't matter, as long
as I can find the right 24 yo, coach
him properly, and put him in front of
Andreeson in exchange for a percentage
of the take.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594559</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28596795</id>
	<title>Re:Only for some people</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246905480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a rationalization for why every business he's started since ripping off Mosaic has failed (Ning anyone?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a rationalization for why every business he 's started since ripping off Mosaic has failed ( Ning anyone ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a rationalization for why every business he's started since ripping off Mosaic has failed (Ning anyone?
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594931</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595149</id>
	<title>Endless race</title>
	<author>iniquitous</author>
	<datestamp>1246898580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whatever happened to taking pride in making something great, and then spending a large portion of your life refining that thing or your ability to make it? Sometimes I wish I was a furniture maker instead of a software developer. New and innovative products are great, but what's the end goal? More new and innovative products? Sure, fine, great. I'm sure it's all just a big race to the bank for most people, like Andreessen, but for some who just need enough money to live comfortably, it's about striving  for excellence and enjoying what you're doing for as long as you are physically able.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whatever happened to taking pride in making something great , and then spending a large portion of your life refining that thing or your ability to make it ?
Sometimes I wish I was a furniture maker instead of a software developer .
New and innovative products are great , but what 's the end goal ?
More new and innovative products ?
Sure , fine , great .
I 'm sure it 's all just a big race to the bank for most people , like Andreessen , but for some who just need enough money to live comfortably , it 's about striving for excellence and enjoying what you 're doing for as long as you are physically able .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whatever happened to taking pride in making something great, and then spending a large portion of your life refining that thing or your ability to make it?
Sometimes I wish I was a furniture maker instead of a software developer.
New and innovative products are great, but what's the end goal?
More new and innovative products?
Sure, fine, great.
I'm sure it's all just a big race to the bank for most people, like Andreessen, but for some who just need enough money to live comfortably, it's about striving  for excellence and enjoying what you're doing for as long as you are physically able.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28601733</id>
	<title>Re:The value of secrecy</title>
	<author>Bugs42</author>
	<datestamp>1246885080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You're not doing it right!</p></div><p>Internet meme: You're doing it wrong.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're not doing it right ! Internet meme : You 're doing it wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're not doing it right!Internet meme: You're doing it wrong.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594623</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594707</id>
	<title>sound familiar</title>
	<author>castironpigeon</author>
	<datestamp>1246896480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is like hitting refresh on your browser until a new<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. posting comes up, right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is like hitting refresh on your browser until a new / .
posting comes up , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is like hitting refresh on your browser until a new /.
posting comes up, right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594485</id>
	<title>Hey!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246895400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago"

I was told there wouldn't be math.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago " I was told there would n't be math .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago"

I was told there wouldn't be math.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594931</id>
	<title>Re:Only for some people</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246897740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He doesn't have a perspective, he has a line of bullshit.</p><p>The "only the young can be this innovative" line is an old one. The basic premise is that the reason why the 50 year olds with all the money don't understand the idea is because they're old, not because the idea is full of shit. It works because a lot of 50 year olds are afraid they're old and out of touch and will pretend the idea is good to seem young, sort of an emperors new clothes type of thing if you see what I mean.</p><p>This guy doesn't really believe his own bullshit, he just wants to make a lot of money out of pretending he does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He does n't have a perspective , he has a line of bullshit.The " only the young can be this innovative " line is an old one .
The basic premise is that the reason why the 50 year olds with all the money do n't understand the idea is because they 're old , not because the idea is full of shit .
It works because a lot of 50 year olds are afraid they 're old and out of touch and will pretend the idea is good to seem young , sort of an emperors new clothes type of thing if you see what I mean.This guy does n't really believe his own bullshit , he just wants to make a lot of money out of pretending he does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He doesn't have a perspective, he has a line of bullshit.The "only the young can be this innovative" line is an old one.
The basic premise is that the reason why the 50 year olds with all the money don't understand the idea is because they're old, not because the idea is full of shit.
It works because a lot of 50 year olds are afraid they're old and out of touch and will pretend the idea is good to seem young, sort of an emperors new clothes type of thing if you see what I mean.This guy doesn't really believe his own bullshit, he just wants to make a lot of money out of pretending he does.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594715</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28605527</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>jawahar</author>
	<datestamp>1246964040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/17/148217" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Brain Decline Begins At Age 27</a> [slashdot.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Brain Decline Begins At Age 27 [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Brain Decline Begins At Age 27 [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28601535</id>
	<title>Earth to Andreessen... WTF?</title>
	<author>alizard</author>
	<datestamp>1246884120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Andreessen says. 'Our secret plan is to watch what gets acquired and fund the next company. A good template is to fund companies doing whichever the next-generation product would have been.'"</p></div></blockquote><p>Better to have really kept the business plan secret, that fewer people might laugh at it.
<br> <br>
It's been noticed by everyone who follows the VC industry that VCs move in herds.
<br> <br>
The 3F rule "First, Fabulous, or Failed" rule applies to VC-funded high-tech as well as mass-market publication.
<br> <br>
Everyone knows what "first-mover" advantage is. You can overcome this by being "fabulous", i.e. a far better product than the "first-mover" has got <i>if</i> everyone isn't already locked into the first-mover's solution and even sometimes even after everyone is locked in and decides the "fabulous" solution is worth the trouble to switch to.
<br> <br>
What Andressen seems to have in mind is to back the "second movers", i.e. follow the part of the herd that moves fastest without recognizing that being faster than just about everyone else doesn't necessarily correlate with being <i>smarter</i>.
<br> <br>His investors would probably be better off if he used a dartboard to select companies for funding. Or based his selections on finding the smartest and most cost-effective next-gen technologies and figuring on helping these companies to bring them to market and putting his VC value-add there, and refraining from the buzzword-compliant micromanagement by people who <i>don't</i> understand the technologies and market realities (as in who might be induced to <b>buy</b> the damned things) which is a large part of why the old "1 in 6" rule of 'which takes off, which dies' in the VC-funded high tech model has been replaced by "1 in 8+".
<br> <br>What's in TFA is part of why I'm not looking to VC to fund the alternative energy R&amp;D I want to do.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Andreessen says .
'Our secret plan is to watch what gets acquired and fund the next company .
A good template is to fund companies doing whichever the next-generation product would have been .
' " Better to have really kept the business plan secret , that fewer people might laugh at it .
It 's been noticed by everyone who follows the VC industry that VCs move in herds .
The 3F rule " First , Fabulous , or Failed " rule applies to VC-funded high-tech as well as mass-market publication .
Everyone knows what " first-mover " advantage is .
You can overcome this by being " fabulous " , i.e .
a far better product than the " first-mover " has got if everyone is n't already locked into the first-mover 's solution and even sometimes even after everyone is locked in and decides the " fabulous " solution is worth the trouble to switch to .
What Andressen seems to have in mind is to back the " second movers " , i.e .
follow the part of the herd that moves fastest without recognizing that being faster than just about everyone else does n't necessarily correlate with being smarter .
His investors would probably be better off if he used a dartboard to select companies for funding .
Or based his selections on finding the smartest and most cost-effective next-gen technologies and figuring on helping these companies to bring them to market and putting his VC value-add there , and refraining from the buzzword-compliant micromanagement by people who do n't understand the technologies and market realities ( as in who might be induced to buy the damned things ) which is a large part of why the old " 1 in 6 " rule of 'which takes off , which dies ' in the VC-funded high tech model has been replaced by " 1 in 8 + " .
What 's in TFA is part of why I 'm not looking to VC to fund the alternative energy R&amp;D I want to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Andreessen says.
'Our secret plan is to watch what gets acquired and fund the next company.
A good template is to fund companies doing whichever the next-generation product would have been.
'"Better to have really kept the business plan secret, that fewer people might laugh at it.
It's been noticed by everyone who follows the VC industry that VCs move in herds.
The 3F rule "First, Fabulous, or Failed" rule applies to VC-funded high-tech as well as mass-market publication.
Everyone knows what "first-mover" advantage is.
You can overcome this by being "fabulous", i.e.
a far better product than the "first-mover" has got if everyone isn't already locked into the first-mover's solution and even sometimes even after everyone is locked in and decides the "fabulous" solution is worth the trouble to switch to.
What Andressen seems to have in mind is to back the "second movers", i.e.
follow the part of the herd that moves fastest without recognizing that being faster than just about everyone else doesn't necessarily correlate with being smarter.
His investors would probably be better off if he used a dartboard to select companies for funding.
Or based his selections on finding the smartest and most cost-effective next-gen technologies and figuring on helping these companies to bring them to market and putting his VC value-add there, and refraining from the buzzword-compliant micromanagement by people who don't understand the technologies and market realities (as in who might be induced to buy the damned things) which is a large part of why the old "1 in 6" rule of 'which takes off, which dies' in the VC-funded high tech model has been replaced by "1 in 8+".
What's in TFA is part of why I'm not looking to VC to fund the alternative energy R&amp;D I want to do.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595059</id>
	<title>Get your ideas from the young kids</title>
	<author>papasui</author>
	<datestamp>1246898220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>but hire some old people to run the company. Big ideas and lots of money don't always work out well if you don't have someone experienced steering the ship.</htmltext>
<tokenext>but hire some old people to run the company .
Big ideas and lots of money do n't always work out well if you do n't have someone experienced steering the ship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but hire some old people to run the company.
Big ideas and lots of money don't always work out well if you don't have someone experienced steering the ship.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28598275</id>
	<title>Twenty-four thirteen years ago</title>
	<author>kindbud</author>
	<datestamp>1246911660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago -- would never think of," say Andreessen.</i></p><p>Who was 24 only 13 years ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago -- would never think of , " say Andreessen.Who was 24 only 13 years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago -- would never think of," say Andreessen.Who was 24 only 13 years ago.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594589</id>
	<title>I have a secret plan too...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246895880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Come up with secret plan<br>2)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>3) Profit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Come up with secret plan2 ) ...3 ) Profit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Come up with secret plan2) ...3) Profit!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594625</id>
	<title>Total Ass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246896060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ummm...wasn't Netscape purchased by AOL...so much for that theory.</p><p>Reality is a bitch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ummm...was n't Netscape purchased by AOL...so much for that theory.Reality is a bitch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ummm...wasn't Netscape purchased by AOL...so much for that theory.Reality is a bitch.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594765</id>
	<title>Re:Umm</title>
	<author>Alzheimers</author>
	<datestamp>1246896840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where did he say that there was a difference?</p><p>He's basically saying, follow the MBAs that are imitating the 24 year olds.  The guys with the experience, just not the creativity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where did he say that there was a difference ? He 's basically saying , follow the MBAs that are imitating the 24 year olds .
The guys with the experience , just not the creativity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where did he say that there was a difference?He's basically saying, follow the MBAs that are imitating the 24 year olds.
The guys with the experience, just not the creativity.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594559</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594565</id>
	<title>Renew! Renew!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246895760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is anyone else getting the feeling that the board of Facebook just might be the founders of Carrousel in Logan's Run?</p><p>You could have the greatest development the tech world has ever seen, but if you're over 30, prepare to be recycled as fodder for Andreessen's mythical 24 yr old.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is anyone else getting the feeling that the board of Facebook just might be the founders of Carrousel in Logan 's Run ? You could have the greatest development the tech world has ever seen , but if you 're over 30 , prepare to be recycled as fodder for Andreessen 's mythical 24 yr old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is anyone else getting the feeling that the board of Facebook just might be the founders of Carrousel in Logan's Run?You could have the greatest development the tech world has ever seen, but if you're over 30, prepare to be recycled as fodder for Andreessen's mythical 24 yr old.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28597007</id>
	<title>Re:Get your ideas from the young kids</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246906320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So the experienced guy gets to the lion's share of the profit while the young guys come up with the ideas and implement them?  That almost sounds like the guy gets compensated for "moral support".  Kind of messed up...  But the truth is this is the story of most CEOs at successful companies.</p><p>I'm going to be called crazy for this, but here is my bold idea as a young person: run a software company based on anarcho-syndicalism.  The coders control the means of production.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So the experienced guy gets to the lion 's share of the profit while the young guys come up with the ideas and implement them ?
That almost sounds like the guy gets compensated for " moral support " .
Kind of messed up... But the truth is this is the story of most CEOs at successful companies.I 'm going to be called crazy for this , but here is my bold idea as a young person : run a software company based on anarcho-syndicalism .
The coders control the means of production .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the experienced guy gets to the lion's share of the profit while the young guys come up with the ideas and implement them?
That almost sounds like the guy gets compensated for "moral support".
Kind of messed up...  But the truth is this is the story of most CEOs at successful companies.I'm going to be called crazy for this, but here is my bold idea as a young person: run a software company based on anarcho-syndicalism.
The coders control the means of production.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595059</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594705</id>
	<title>Great!</title>
	<author>Quiet\_Desperation</author>
	<datestamp>1246896480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ah. The old "youth is everything, experience is irrelevant" approach. The movers of this new culture can facebrag about it as they pass their hand me ups to their decrepit, tweetless, senile elders (anyone over 25).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah .
The old " youth is everything , experience is irrelevant " approach .
The movers of this new culture can facebrag about it as they pass their hand me ups to their decrepit , tweetless , senile elders ( anyone over 25 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah.
The old "youth is everything, experience is irrelevant" approach.
The movers of this new culture can facebrag about it as they pass their hand me ups to their decrepit, tweetless, senile elders (anyone over 25).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28600189</id>
	<title>Re:He won't...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246876980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clearly, you couldn't get to the ivy league, couldn't stumble upon an idea that attracts millions of people (and $$$.) I just wondered if you have invented an automated fruit picker.</p><p>I didn't either, but I don't complain. I just know that a former co-worker of mine, graduating with a MS degree from Stanford, is doing the same damn programming jobs and making same low salary as mine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly , you could n't get to the ivy league , could n't stumble upon an idea that attracts millions of people ( and $ $ $ .
) I just wondered if you have invented an automated fruit picker.I did n't either , but I do n't complain .
I just know that a former co-worker of mine , graduating with a MS degree from Stanford , is doing the same damn programming jobs and making same low salary as mine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly, you couldn't get to the ivy league, couldn't stumble upon an idea that attracts millions of people (and $$$.
) I just wondered if you have invented an automated fruit picker.I didn't either, but I don't complain.
I just know that a former co-worker of mine, graduating with a MS degree from Stanford, is doing the same damn programming jobs and making same low salary as mine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595085</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28597311</id>
	<title>Re:Listen to me, I lost to IE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246907700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>also from a guy who just made over 100 million dollars by selling a company he founded to HP (Opsware).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>also from a guy who just made over 100 million dollars by selling a company he founded to HP ( Opsware ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>also from a guy who just made over 100 million dollars by selling a company he founded to HP (Opsware).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594641</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595997</id>
	<title>Youth is a paradox.</title>
	<author>Fantastic Lad</author>
	<datestamp>1246902300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The advantage that young people have is two-fold; That of Time, and Easy Cross-Cultural Networking.</p><p>Back when you were a kid, you didn't have to work.  (School work, even when hard, is minimal.)  Kids don't have kids, they don't have to worry about car or house payments.  They don't have to go grocery shopping.  They have all their free time to think about and explore the new trends.</p><p>Second, they have the biggest water-cooler to chat around.  All day.  --After you grow up and enter the work force, you are suddenly segregated into one social category or another and with that, you lose perspective.  When you are a kid in school, however, you are rubbing shoulders with everybody; kids who will grow up to become doctors and nuclear scientists and politicos and hair-stylists and crack-heads.  You see it all and you have the time to process it.  You live right there in the big picture.  You just don't have the brains to realize the power of that scenario.</p><p>See, on the down side, when you are a kid, you have cognitive blinders on which are so big that when you reach your thirties, you are stunned at the fact that you managed to survive for all the stupid things you did and blind-spots you functioned within.  Kids are functionally retarded.  --And I say that in the nicest way, because it's a process of growing up and we all go through it.  Or at least this has been my own experience, and when I ask others, they nod and sigh deeply.  Perhaps you are different, but I doubt it.  Brains don't stop growing until you turn 18 or 19 after all, and your internal knowledge processing networks don't really crystallize into a rich enough understanding of reality to be terribly useful for another ten years at least.  There's nothing wrong with this.  It's called, "Growing up".</p><p>So. . .  The trick is to make sure that when you reach your thirties you work to put yourself into a position where you have tons of free time and where you can connect with every social class you can reach.  If you can do that. . , well then, now you're getting somewhere.</p><p>How old were the guys who came up with the iPod?</p><p>I'm betting they weren't twenty year-olds.</p><p>-FL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The advantage that young people have is two-fold ; That of Time , and Easy Cross-Cultural Networking.Back when you were a kid , you did n't have to work .
( School work , even when hard , is minimal .
) Kids do n't have kids , they do n't have to worry about car or house payments .
They do n't have to go grocery shopping .
They have all their free time to think about and explore the new trends.Second , they have the biggest water-cooler to chat around .
All day .
--After you grow up and enter the work force , you are suddenly segregated into one social category or another and with that , you lose perspective .
When you are a kid in school , however , you are rubbing shoulders with everybody ; kids who will grow up to become doctors and nuclear scientists and politicos and hair-stylists and crack-heads .
You see it all and you have the time to process it .
You live right there in the big picture .
You just do n't have the brains to realize the power of that scenario.See , on the down side , when you are a kid , you have cognitive blinders on which are so big that when you reach your thirties , you are stunned at the fact that you managed to survive for all the stupid things you did and blind-spots you functioned within .
Kids are functionally retarded .
--And I say that in the nicest way , because it 's a process of growing up and we all go through it .
Or at least this has been my own experience , and when I ask others , they nod and sigh deeply .
Perhaps you are different , but I doubt it .
Brains do n't stop growing until you turn 18 or 19 after all , and your internal knowledge processing networks do n't really crystallize into a rich enough understanding of reality to be terribly useful for another ten years at least .
There 's nothing wrong with this .
It 's called , " Growing up " .So .
. .
The trick is to make sure that when you reach your thirties you work to put yourself into a position where you have tons of free time and where you can connect with every social class you can reach .
If you can do that .
. , well then , now you 're getting somewhere.How old were the guys who came up with the iPod ? I 'm betting they were n't twenty year-olds.-FL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The advantage that young people have is two-fold; That of Time, and Easy Cross-Cultural Networking.Back when you were a kid, you didn't have to work.
(School work, even when hard, is minimal.
)  Kids don't have kids, they don't have to worry about car or house payments.
They don't have to go grocery shopping.
They have all their free time to think about and explore the new trends.Second, they have the biggest water-cooler to chat around.
All day.
--After you grow up and enter the work force, you are suddenly segregated into one social category or another and with that, you lose perspective.
When you are a kid in school, however, you are rubbing shoulders with everybody; kids who will grow up to become doctors and nuclear scientists and politicos and hair-stylists and crack-heads.
You see it all and you have the time to process it.
You live right there in the big picture.
You just don't have the brains to realize the power of that scenario.See, on the down side, when you are a kid, you have cognitive blinders on which are so big that when you reach your thirties, you are stunned at the fact that you managed to survive for all the stupid things you did and blind-spots you functioned within.
Kids are functionally retarded.
--And I say that in the nicest way, because it's a process of growing up and we all go through it.
Or at least this has been my own experience, and when I ask others, they nod and sigh deeply.
Perhaps you are different, but I doubt it.
Brains don't stop growing until you turn 18 or 19 after all, and your internal knowledge processing networks don't really crystallize into a rich enough understanding of reality to be terribly useful for another ten years at least.
There's nothing wrong with this.
It's called, "Growing up".So.
. .
The trick is to make sure that when you reach your thirties you work to put yourself into a position where you have tons of free time and where you can connect with every social class you can reach.
If you can do that.
. , well then, now you're getting somewhere.How old were the guys who came up with the iPod?I'm betting they weren't twenty year-olds.-FL</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28605705</id>
	<title>Oh the delusions</title>
	<author>4D6963</author>
	<datestamp>1246966740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old &#226;" who was 24 just five years ago &#226;" would never think of</i> </p><p>No, shithead, that has nothing to do with age. Two months ago I was 22 and I didn't have a clue about Twitter cause I didn't see what the big deal was about. Now I'm 23 and I had to get into that stuff for marketing/PR and I know more about it.</p><p>The point is : it's not about age but about how updated you keep yourself. And thinking that a 24-year old will think "younger" than a 29-year old is like saying that an old man has to be more politically/morally conservative than a young man, when the old man could be a pro-everything social democrat and the young man could be a Mennonite.

</p><p>By the way, I wonder where that kind of thinking would have taken him if he was a technology investor back in 2000. "Hey, these guys are like 23 and they've got a young-sounding idea, let's give em a few millions and wait for the bubble to burst!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old   " who was 24 just five years ago   " would never think of No , shithead , that has nothing to do with age .
Two months ago I was 22 and I did n't have a clue about Twitter cause I did n't see what the big deal was about .
Now I 'm 23 and I had to get into that stuff for marketing/PR and I know more about it.The point is : it 's not about age but about how updated you keep yourself .
And thinking that a 24-year old will think " younger " than a 29-year old is like saying that an old man has to be more politically/morally conservative than a young man , when the old man could be a pro-everything social democrat and the young man could be a Mennonite .
By the way , I wonder where that kind of thinking would have taken him if he was a technology investor back in 2000 .
" Hey , these guys are like 23 and they 've got a young-sounding idea , let 's give em a few millions and wait for the bubble to burst !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext> So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old â" who was 24 just five years ago â" would never think of No, shithead, that has nothing to do with age.
Two months ago I was 22 and I didn't have a clue about Twitter cause I didn't see what the big deal was about.
Now I'm 23 and I had to get into that stuff for marketing/PR and I know more about it.The point is : it's not about age but about how updated you keep yourself.
And thinking that a 24-year old will think "younger" than a 29-year old is like saying that an old man has to be more politically/morally conservative than a young man, when the old man could be a pro-everything social democrat and the young man could be a Mennonite.
By the way, I wonder where that kind of thinking would have taken him if he was a technology investor back in 2000.
"Hey, these guys are like 23 and they've got a young-sounding idea, let's give em a few millions and wait for the bubble to burst!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595777</id>
	<title>The Next Netscape?</title>
	<author>greyline</author>
	<datestamp>1246901460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What do we need another Netscape for? Internet Explorer works just fine!</htmltext>
<tokenext>What do we need another Netscape for ?
Internet Explorer works just fine !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do we need another Netscape for?
Internet Explorer works just fine!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28635827</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>sglines</author>
	<datestamp>1247151540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>hardly - I'm 57.</htmltext>
<tokenext>hardly - I 'm 57 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hardly - I'm 57.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594623</id>
	<title>The value of secrecy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246896060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Said Andreessen, "Our secret plan is..."<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...posted on a blog at NYtimes.com.</p><p>You're not doing it right!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Said Andreessen , " Our secret plan is... " ...posted on a blog at NYtimes.com.You 're not doing it right !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Said Andreessen, "Our secret plan is..." ...posted on a blog at NYtimes.com.You're not doing it right!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595109</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>iamapizza</author>
	<datestamp>1246898400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, but I'm 5 years younger than you and am obsolete in ways that you cannot think of.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but I 'm 5 years younger than you and am obsolete in ways that you can not think of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but I'm 5 years younger than you and am obsolete in ways that you cannot think of.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594727</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246896660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i> "So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old &#226;" who was 24 just five years ago &#226;" would never think of," say Andreessen. "We love that kind of thing." </i> </p><p>Great. More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.</p><p>I'm obsolete at 36.</p></div><p>I know a lot of 20-25 year old people in universities.  My 60+ year old dad keeps up with technology, especially internet technology, better than any of them.  Andreeson's delusional thinking shouldn't be trusted.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old   " who was 24 just five years ago   " would never think of , " say Andreessen .
" We love that kind of thing .
" Great .
More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.I 'm obsolete at 36.I know a lot of 20-25 year old people in universities .
My 60 + year old dad keeps up with technology , especially internet technology , better than any of them .
Andreeson 's delusional thinking should n't be trusted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  "So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old â" who was 24 just five years ago â" would never think of," say Andreessen.
"We love that kind of thing.
"  Great.
More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.I'm obsolete at 36.I know a lot of 20-25 year old people in universities.
My 60+ year old dad keeps up with technology, especially internet technology, better than any of them.
Andreeson's delusional thinking shouldn't be trusted.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594717</id>
	<title>Re:Hey!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246896540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's why you're leaving university at 24<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... where did those extra three years come from? Oh, a year off because your parents were rich and you went around the world. And then you did a less stressful 4 year course. Maybe with a year out in industry, conveniently placed in Daddy's business.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's why you 're leaving university at 24 ... where did those extra three years come from ?
Oh , a year off because your parents were rich and you went around the world .
And then you did a less stressful 4 year course .
Maybe with a year out in industry , conveniently placed in Daddy 's business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's why you're leaving university at 24 ... where did those extra three years come from?
Oh, a year off because your parents were rich and you went around the world.
And then you did a less stressful 4 year course.
Maybe with a year out in industry, conveniently placed in Daddy's business.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594485</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595233</id>
	<title>That 29 year old is ....</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1246899000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>.... none other than Marc Andreesen! Drum roll.</htmltext>
<tokenext>.... none other than Marc Andreesen !
Drum roll .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.... none other than Marc Andreesen!
Drum roll.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595401</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>The Archon V2.0</author>
	<datestamp>1246899840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm obsolete at 36.</p></div><p>Look at the bright side! At 37, Marc Andreessen is more obsolete than you are!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm obsolete at 36.Look at the bright side !
At 37 , Marc Andreessen is more obsolete than you are !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm obsolete at 36.Look at the bright side!
At 37, Marc Andreessen is more obsolete than you are!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595493</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246900320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Andreeson's delusional thinking shouldn't be trusted</i></p><p>Netscape died. Why should we listen to Andreeson? Was this story posted by someone who listens to Bush and Cheney? I wish Bush and especially Cheney would STFU. They lost, they should get over it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Andreeson 's delusional thinking should n't be trustedNetscape died .
Why should we listen to Andreeson ?
Was this story posted by someone who listens to Bush and Cheney ?
I wish Bush and especially Cheney would STFU .
They lost , they should get over it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Andreeson's delusional thinking shouldn't be trustedNetscape died.
Why should we listen to Andreeson?
Was this story posted by someone who listens to Bush and Cheney?
I wish Bush and especially Cheney would STFU.
They lost, they should get over it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594727</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594641</id>
	<title>Listen to me, I lost to IE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246896180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It is hard for big ones to out-execute up-and-comers</p></div><p>Funny quote, coming from a guy whose company was crushed by Microsoft.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is hard for big ones to out-execute up-and-comersFunny quote , coming from a guy whose company was crushed by Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is hard for big ones to out-execute up-and-comersFunny quote, coming from a guy whose company was crushed by Microsoft.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28621129</id>
	<title>I suppose he is asuming....</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1247064000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... the competition will be legal or at least ethical.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... the competition will be legal or at least ethical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... the competition will be legal or at least ethical.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594641</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595085</id>
	<title>He won't...</title>
	<author>benjamindees</author>
	<datestamp>1246898280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And it doesn't matter.  As the prototypical "obsolete" 29 year old from the example, I can tell you it doesn't matter whether the 24 year old is full of shit or not.  Shit sells.</p><p>When I was applying to ivy league schools, literally every piece of advice I got was to lie out your ass.  Lie about your achievements.  Write your own recommendations.  Just pull stuff out of thin air.  Make it as flamboyant as possible, and as convincing as you can.  As far as they know, you're a genius black inventor mathematician cellist who can write upside-down and backwards using your little toes.  Books, articles, current and former students; they all said the same thing: Give admissions staffers the unbelievably entertaining bullshit they want to hear.  Hell, you should even tell them that you have some plan to pay back the ridiculous loans they give you.</p><p>And judging by what I've witnessed over the last ten years, that was absolutely the correct advice.  Yale, Harvard, the school doesn't even matter.  Most of them didn't do well.  Some didn't even graduate.  But, one by one, a steady stream of the the best liars these institutions have to offer have stood up and lied over and over again to the rest of us and become filthy rich and wildly successful doing so.  They have swindled us, stolen from us, violated our rights, led us into wars and destruction and profited greatly by it.  All the while giving back to their alma maters in the process.</p><p>It doesn't matter that this group of people are investing millions of dollars into completely unproductive Web 2.0 bullshit with no viable revenue stream.  It doesn't matter that the money they are frittering away is ultimately borrowed from foreigners, swindled from the elderlies' retirement funds, or doled out via government "stimulus".</p><p>It doesn't matter that they are sinking the US economy in the process, wasting an entire generation's productive efforts on shiny trinkets that will be unceremoniously duplicated by overseas competitors if by accident they ever attain any real value.</p><p>No, no.  What matters is that they are productive, successful "entrepreneurs" who are "innovating".  And if they can find an ambitious young 24-year-old with an idea to spy on his neighbor's porn surfing and advertise divorce lawyers to his wife, that'll be the next big thing.  Because it'll be easy to patent and will give a 2\% greater return than a business plan to manufacture automated fruit-pickers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And it does n't matter .
As the prototypical " obsolete " 29 year old from the example , I can tell you it does n't matter whether the 24 year old is full of shit or not .
Shit sells.When I was applying to ivy league schools , literally every piece of advice I got was to lie out your ass .
Lie about your achievements .
Write your own recommendations .
Just pull stuff out of thin air .
Make it as flamboyant as possible , and as convincing as you can .
As far as they know , you 're a genius black inventor mathematician cellist who can write upside-down and backwards using your little toes .
Books , articles , current and former students ; they all said the same thing : Give admissions staffers the unbelievably entertaining bullshit they want to hear .
Hell , you should even tell them that you have some plan to pay back the ridiculous loans they give you.And judging by what I 've witnessed over the last ten years , that was absolutely the correct advice .
Yale , Harvard , the school does n't even matter .
Most of them did n't do well .
Some did n't even graduate .
But , one by one , a steady stream of the the best liars these institutions have to offer have stood up and lied over and over again to the rest of us and become filthy rich and wildly successful doing so .
They have swindled us , stolen from us , violated our rights , led us into wars and destruction and profited greatly by it .
All the while giving back to their alma maters in the process.It does n't matter that this group of people are investing millions of dollars into completely unproductive Web 2.0 bullshit with no viable revenue stream .
It does n't matter that the money they are frittering away is ultimately borrowed from foreigners , swindled from the elderlies ' retirement funds , or doled out via government " stimulus " .It does n't matter that they are sinking the US economy in the process , wasting an entire generation 's productive efforts on shiny trinkets that will be unceremoniously duplicated by overseas competitors if by accident they ever attain any real value.No , no .
What matters is that they are productive , successful " entrepreneurs " who are " innovating " .
And if they can find an ambitious young 24-year-old with an idea to spy on his neighbor 's porn surfing and advertise divorce lawyers to his wife , that 'll be the next big thing .
Because it 'll be easy to patent and will give a 2 \ % greater return than a business plan to manufacture automated fruit-pickers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it doesn't matter.
As the prototypical "obsolete" 29 year old from the example, I can tell you it doesn't matter whether the 24 year old is full of shit or not.
Shit sells.When I was applying to ivy league schools, literally every piece of advice I got was to lie out your ass.
Lie about your achievements.
Write your own recommendations.
Just pull stuff out of thin air.
Make it as flamboyant as possible, and as convincing as you can.
As far as they know, you're a genius black inventor mathematician cellist who can write upside-down and backwards using your little toes.
Books, articles, current and former students; they all said the same thing: Give admissions staffers the unbelievably entertaining bullshit they want to hear.
Hell, you should even tell them that you have some plan to pay back the ridiculous loans they give you.And judging by what I've witnessed over the last ten years, that was absolutely the correct advice.
Yale, Harvard, the school doesn't even matter.
Most of them didn't do well.
Some didn't even graduate.
But, one by one, a steady stream of the the best liars these institutions have to offer have stood up and lied over and over again to the rest of us and become filthy rich and wildly successful doing so.
They have swindled us, stolen from us, violated our rights, led us into wars and destruction and profited greatly by it.
All the while giving back to their alma maters in the process.It doesn't matter that this group of people are investing millions of dollars into completely unproductive Web 2.0 bullshit with no viable revenue stream.
It doesn't matter that the money they are frittering away is ultimately borrowed from foreigners, swindled from the elderlies' retirement funds, or doled out via government "stimulus".It doesn't matter that they are sinking the US economy in the process, wasting an entire generation's productive efforts on shiny trinkets that will be unceremoniously duplicated by overseas competitors if by accident they ever attain any real value.No, no.
What matters is that they are productive, successful "entrepreneurs" who are "innovating".
And if they can find an ambitious young 24-year-old with an idea to spy on his neighbor's porn surfing and advertise divorce lawyers to his wife, that'll be the next big thing.
Because it'll be easy to patent and will give a 2\% greater return than a business plan to manufacture automated fruit-pickers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28596175</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246903080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All these startups of the last 20 years have just been monetizing technology that came out pure research projects at PARC, CERN, IBM, Sun, etc. We're a the end  of that explosive period. The tools have been created, we know what can be done and how it has to be done. The young no longer have the advantage of being the only ones who grew up within the new paradigm, the old(er) have so too. What's required now is creativity and that's not the exclusive domain of the young. In fact the older generation will bring both creativity and experience to the table in this new period of consolidation, so don't sell yourself short.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All these startups of the last 20 years have just been monetizing technology that came out pure research projects at PARC , CERN , IBM , Sun , etc .
We 're a the end of that explosive period .
The tools have been created , we know what can be done and how it has to be done .
The young no longer have the advantage of being the only ones who grew up within the new paradigm , the old ( er ) have so too .
What 's required now is creativity and that 's not the exclusive domain of the young .
In fact the older generation will bring both creativity and experience to the table in this new period of consolidation , so do n't sell yourself short .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All these startups of the last 20 years have just been monetizing technology that came out pure research projects at PARC, CERN, IBM, Sun, etc.
We're a the end  of that explosive period.
The tools have been created, we know what can be done and how it has to be done.
The young no longer have the advantage of being the only ones who grew up within the new paradigm, the old(er) have so too.
What's required now is creativity and that's not the exclusive domain of the young.
In fact the older generation will bring both creativity and experience to the table in this new period of consolidation, so don't sell yourself short.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595797</id>
	<title>Contacting him</title>
	<author>rockwood</author>
	<datestamp>1246901520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Personally I'd like to know how to contact someone like this in regards to presenting an idea. Business plans are not somethign that is easily done, and I've always been better at a verbal pitch, but gettign the opportunity to talk or coorespond via email with someone that has the power to make a decision is neearly impossible. I've emailed every address on the planet that I could find for News Corp, initially wanting to pitch the idea to them. But you don't even get a reponse back of any kind. wtf - I mean I know there are crack-pots out there, but not evryone that has an idea is going to pitch you something absurd.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally I 'd like to know how to contact someone like this in regards to presenting an idea .
Business plans are not somethign that is easily done , and I 've always been better at a verbal pitch , but gettign the opportunity to talk or coorespond via email with someone that has the power to make a decision is neearly impossible .
I 've emailed every address on the planet that I could find for News Corp , initially wanting to pitch the idea to them .
But you do n't even get a reponse back of any kind .
wtf - I mean I know there are crack-pots out there , but not evryone that has an idea is going to pitch you something absurd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally I'd like to know how to contact someone like this in regards to presenting an idea.
Business plans are not somethign that is easily done, and I've always been better at a verbal pitch, but gettign the opportunity to talk or coorespond via email with someone that has the power to make a decision is neearly impossible.
I've emailed every address on the planet that I could find for News Corp, initially wanting to pitch the idea to them.
But you don't even get a reponse back of any kind.
wtf - I mean I know there are crack-pots out there, but not evryone that has an idea is going to pitch you something absurd.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28598373</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>kindbud</author>
	<datestamp>1246912080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Andreeson's delusional thinking shouldn't be trusted.</i></p><p>After all, he's thirty-seven!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Andreeson 's delusional thinking should n't be trusted.After all , he 's thirty-seven !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Andreeson's delusional thinking shouldn't be trusted.After all, he's thirty-seven!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28605741</id>
	<title>Re:Get your ideas from the young kids</title>
	<author>jawahar</author>
	<datestamp>1246967340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes." --Oscar Wilde</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes .
" --Oscar Wilde</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.
" --Oscar Wilde</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28596563</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>c4t3y3</author>
	<datestamp>1246904520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old would never think of</p></div></blockquote><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>..said the 40-year-old.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old would never think of ..said the 40-year-old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old would never think of ..said the 40-year-old.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28597917</id>
	<title>Sounds like an excuse to me</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1246910040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Andreessen can't come up with any new big ideas (not that Netscape invented the browser anyway) so he can use the excuse that he's too old and everybody else his age is too old too.</p><p>The unsurprising truth is that 24 year-olds are better at coming up with ideas that teens and young adults can relate to. That's not to say that the ideas are good or profitable.</p><p>Andreessen should do what most of the other high tech luminaries do after their peak - become a "fellow" at some famous company. You don't have to  do any real work - it's basically being a high-tech celebrity spokesmodel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Andreessen ca n't come up with any new big ideas ( not that Netscape invented the browser anyway ) so he can use the excuse that he 's too old and everybody else his age is too old too.The unsurprising truth is that 24 year-olds are better at coming up with ideas that teens and young adults can relate to .
That 's not to say that the ideas are good or profitable.Andreessen should do what most of the other high tech luminaries do after their peak - become a " fellow " at some famous company .
You do n't have to do any real work - it 's basically being a high-tech celebrity spokesmodel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Andreessen can't come up with any new big ideas (not that Netscape invented the browser anyway) so he can use the excuse that he's too old and everybody else his age is too old too.The unsurprising truth is that 24 year-olds are better at coming up with ideas that teens and young adults can relate to.
That's not to say that the ideas are good or profitable.Andreessen should do what most of the other high tech luminaries do after their peak - become a "fellow" at some famous company.
You don't have to  do any real work - it's basically being a high-tech celebrity spokesmodel.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595301</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>jdgeorge</author>
	<datestamp>1246899240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i> "So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old &#226;" who was 24 just five years ago &#226;" would never think of," say Andreessen. "We love that kind of thing." </i> </p><p>Great. More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.</p><p>I'm obsolete at 36.</p></div><p>Not really age discrimination. I think Adreessen's comment is incorrect, but it reflect his superficial analysis of a reality:</p><p>The 24-year-old coming out of school generally does not have a family to support or a big investment in where he lives, and is therefore more willing to take big risks.</p><p>The 29 or older crowd is more likely to have needs and commitments that would not survive the failure of a major venture or possibly even a major upheaval in lifestyle such as spending 16 hours per day at work for months or years at a time.</p><p>People who are interested in bleeding edge technology will be interested and able to understand the bleeding edge regardless of their age. Or should we call Linus Torvalds and tell him to hang it up because he's too old to understand new technology anymore?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old   " who was 24 just five years ago   " would never think of , " say Andreessen .
" We love that kind of thing .
" Great .
More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.I 'm obsolete at 36.Not really age discrimination .
I think Adreessen 's comment is incorrect , but it reflect his superficial analysis of a reality : The 24-year-old coming out of school generally does not have a family to support or a big investment in where he lives , and is therefore more willing to take big risks.The 29 or older crowd is more likely to have needs and commitments that would not survive the failure of a major venture or possibly even a major upheaval in lifestyle such as spending 16 hours per day at work for months or years at a time.People who are interested in bleeding edge technology will be interested and able to understand the bleeding edge regardless of their age .
Or should we call Linus Torvalds and tell him to hang it up because he 's too old to understand new technology anymore ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  "So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old â" who was 24 just five years ago â" would never think of," say Andreessen.
"We love that kind of thing.
"  Great.
More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.I'm obsolete at 36.Not really age discrimination.
I think Adreessen's comment is incorrect, but it reflect his superficial analysis of a reality:The 24-year-old coming out of school generally does not have a family to support or a big investment in where he lives, and is therefore more willing to take big risks.The 29 or older crowd is more likely to have needs and commitments that would not survive the failure of a major venture or possibly even a major upheaval in lifestyle such as spending 16 hours per day at work for months or years at a time.People who are interested in bleeding edge technology will be interested and able to understand the bleeding edge regardless of their age.
Or should we call Linus Torvalds and tell him to hang it up because he's too old to understand new technology anymore?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28596427</id>
	<title>A++++ Would read rant again!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246904040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Nice</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594715</id>
	<title>Only for some people</title>
	<author>RJFerret</author>
	<datestamp>1246896540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interesting, I'm now late 30s and frequently run across 20-somethings who have little to no computer/Internet interest.  Some personality types want to interact socially in person and others want to read paper.</p><p>Sure libraries are accommodating new media, but they aren't eliminating the old, which still gets used.  Attorneys and doctors continue to need paper.</p><p>His perspective generally sounds like a good one, but doesn't seem to recognize an entire segment of our population--like nearly everyone at the BBQ I was at on the 4th.</p><p>A friend there was laughing when her sister called to ask where/when fireworks might be shown, despite them having a computer in the kids playroom and their kids being able to search it faster than she could call her!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting , I 'm now late 30s and frequently run across 20-somethings who have little to no computer/Internet interest .
Some personality types want to interact socially in person and others want to read paper.Sure libraries are accommodating new media , but they are n't eliminating the old , which still gets used .
Attorneys and doctors continue to need paper.His perspective generally sounds like a good one , but does n't seem to recognize an entire segment of our population--like nearly everyone at the BBQ I was at on the 4th.A friend there was laughing when her sister called to ask where/when fireworks might be shown , despite them having a computer in the kids playroom and their kids being able to search it faster than she could call her !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting, I'm now late 30s and frequently run across 20-somethings who have little to no computer/Internet interest.
Some personality types want to interact socially in person and others want to read paper.Sure libraries are accommodating new media, but they aren't eliminating the old, which still gets used.
Attorneys and doctors continue to need paper.His perspective generally sounds like a good one, but doesn't seem to recognize an entire segment of our population--like nearly everyone at the BBQ I was at on the 4th.A friend there was laughing when her sister called to ask where/when fireworks might be shown, despite them having a computer in the kids playroom and their kids being able to search it faster than she could call her!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595877</id>
	<title>"Eyeballs", not revenue - NOT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246901880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
One of the big problems with Internet businesses is that there's a huge disconnect between what will attract users and what will make money.  In 1999, there were companies saying that growth was about "eyeballs", and only "old economy" people worried about revenue. That didn't work out too well.  For a recap of this, see <a href="http://www.downside.com/deathwatch.html" title="downside.com">Downside's Deathwatch</a> [downside.com], which I did back then. (Where it says "Chart is not available for this symbol", it means they're long gone.)
So we've heard that particular line of bullshit before.
</p><p>Similar claims have been heard for social networks, few of which have paid back their original investment.  Myspace, in their best year, (2007) made <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070809/064022.shtml" title="techdirt.com">only $10 million.</a> [techdirt.com]
News Corp paid $580 million for Myspace.  They'll never see that back.  Investors in other has-been social networks (AOL, GeoCities, Orkut, Tribe, Friendster, Classmates, Nerve, etc.) did even worse.
</p><p>
Andreessen has a point that YouTube would have had to find a way to become profitable by now if they weren't part of Google.  Of course they would.  No VC would continue to fund a money drain like YouTube.  YouTube couldn't even survive as a zombie; they cost too much to run. ("zombie": VC term for companies which can't come close to paying their startup investment, but generate just enough revenue to cover their operating costs.  They're the living dead of startups.)
</p><p>
Google still gets something like 97\% of their revenue from AdWords. Everything else they've done loses money.  Google had one great revenue product - AdWords.  They've been frantically trying to find another, without success.  Google has a great capability for deploying money-losing free services, but none of them, from Gmail to book-scanning, are generating serious revenue.
</p><p>
There are lots of things that are interesting to do technically, and even useful and popular, but don't make money.  I've done a few myself.   Andreessen probably has some good ideas like that, and I'm sure he can find more.  But if he's going to run money as a VC, he'll have to do better.
</p><p>
Better than the average VC, in fact.
There are currently too many venture capitalists.  VCs as a group lose money, and have been losing money since 2003 or so.  Venture capital as a business used to be highly profitable, but it no longer is.  Too much dumb money came in during the first dot-com boom, and the VC business overexpanded.  Silicon Valley venture capital used to be about funding a few engineers in a lab to do something great.  Those startups often failed, but didn't cost more than a few million when they did. If one in 10 did something good, that was a win.  During the dot-com boom, VCs started funding companies into the deployment and operating phase, which is when it starts to really cost.  That's a way to lose hundreds of millions a pop.
</p><p>
So we'll see how Andreessen does.  Remember, though, that it's not a win until long-term profitability is achieved and the original investment paid back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the big problems with Internet businesses is that there 's a huge disconnect between what will attract users and what will make money .
In 1999 , there were companies saying that growth was about " eyeballs " , and only " old economy " people worried about revenue .
That did n't work out too well .
For a recap of this , see Downside 's Deathwatch [ downside.com ] , which I did back then .
( Where it says " Chart is not available for this symbol " , it means they 're long gone .
) So we 've heard that particular line of bullshit before .
Similar claims have been heard for social networks , few of which have paid back their original investment .
Myspace , in their best year , ( 2007 ) made only $ 10 million .
[ techdirt.com ] News Corp paid $ 580 million for Myspace .
They 'll never see that back .
Investors in other has-been social networks ( AOL , GeoCities , Orkut , Tribe , Friendster , Classmates , Nerve , etc .
) did even worse .
Andreessen has a point that YouTube would have had to find a way to become profitable by now if they were n't part of Google .
Of course they would .
No VC would continue to fund a money drain like YouTube .
YouTube could n't even survive as a zombie ; they cost too much to run .
( " zombie " : VC term for companies which ca n't come close to paying their startup investment , but generate just enough revenue to cover their operating costs .
They 're the living dead of startups .
) Google still gets something like 97 \ % of their revenue from AdWords .
Everything else they 've done loses money .
Google had one great revenue product - AdWords .
They 've been frantically trying to find another , without success .
Google has a great capability for deploying money-losing free services , but none of them , from Gmail to book-scanning , are generating serious revenue .
There are lots of things that are interesting to do technically , and even useful and popular , but do n't make money .
I 've done a few myself .
Andreessen probably has some good ideas like that , and I 'm sure he can find more .
But if he 's going to run money as a VC , he 'll have to do better .
Better than the average VC , in fact .
There are currently too many venture capitalists .
VCs as a group lose money , and have been losing money since 2003 or so .
Venture capital as a business used to be highly profitable , but it no longer is .
Too much dumb money came in during the first dot-com boom , and the VC business overexpanded .
Silicon Valley venture capital used to be about funding a few engineers in a lab to do something great .
Those startups often failed , but did n't cost more than a few million when they did .
If one in 10 did something good , that was a win .
During the dot-com boom , VCs started funding companies into the deployment and operating phase , which is when it starts to really cost .
That 's a way to lose hundreds of millions a pop .
So we 'll see how Andreessen does .
Remember , though , that it 's not a win until long-term profitability is achieved and the original investment paid back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
One of the big problems with Internet businesses is that there's a huge disconnect between what will attract users and what will make money.
In 1999, there were companies saying that growth was about "eyeballs", and only "old economy" people worried about revenue.
That didn't work out too well.
For a recap of this, see Downside's Deathwatch [downside.com], which I did back then.
(Where it says "Chart is not available for this symbol", it means they're long gone.
)
So we've heard that particular line of bullshit before.
Similar claims have been heard for social networks, few of which have paid back their original investment.
Myspace, in their best year, (2007) made only $10 million.
[techdirt.com]
News Corp paid $580 million for Myspace.
They'll never see that back.
Investors in other has-been social networks (AOL, GeoCities, Orkut, Tribe, Friendster, Classmates, Nerve, etc.
) did even worse.
Andreessen has a point that YouTube would have had to find a way to become profitable by now if they weren't part of Google.
Of course they would.
No VC would continue to fund a money drain like YouTube.
YouTube couldn't even survive as a zombie; they cost too much to run.
("zombie": VC term for companies which can't come close to paying their startup investment, but generate just enough revenue to cover their operating costs.
They're the living dead of startups.
)

Google still gets something like 97\% of their revenue from AdWords.
Everything else they've done loses money.
Google had one great revenue product - AdWords.
They've been frantically trying to find another, without success.
Google has a great capability for deploying money-losing free services, but none of them, from Gmail to book-scanning, are generating serious revenue.
There are lots of things that are interesting to do technically, and even useful and popular, but don't make money.
I've done a few myself.
Andreessen probably has some good ideas like that, and I'm sure he can find more.
But if he's going to run money as a VC, he'll have to do better.
Better than the average VC, in fact.
There are currently too many venture capitalists.
VCs as a group lose money, and have been losing money since 2003 or so.
Venture capital as a business used to be highly profitable, but it no longer is.
Too much dumb money came in during the first dot-com boom, and the VC business overexpanded.
Silicon Valley venture capital used to be about funding a few engineers in a lab to do something great.
Those startups often failed, but didn't cost more than a few million when they did.
If one in 10 did something good, that was a win.
During the dot-com boom, VCs started funding companies into the deployment and operating phase, which is when it starts to really cost.
That's a way to lose hundreds of millions a pop.
So we'll see how Andreessen does.
Remember, though, that it's not a win until long-term profitability is achieved and the original investment paid back.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594687</id>
	<title>Re:Renew! Renew!</title>
	<author>ArhcAngel</author>
	<datestamp>1246896420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well since nobody from Marc Andreessen's examples would have a clue what <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan's\_Run" title="wikipedia.org">Logan's Run</a> [wikipedia.org] is you might have at least given them a <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/" title="imdb.com">link</a> [imdb.com]. Or did they already create the mind machine interface that would download the info directly to their brains and nobody told those of us over 30?</p><p>Now if they could just get the laser from that movie mounted to a shark's head.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well since nobody from Marc Andreessen 's examples would have a clue what Logan 's Run [ wikipedia.org ] is you might have at least given them a link [ imdb.com ] .
Or did they already create the mind machine interface that would download the info directly to their brains and nobody told those of us over 30 ? Now if they could just get the laser from that movie mounted to a shark 's head .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well since nobody from Marc Andreessen's examples would have a clue what Logan's Run [wikipedia.org] is you might have at least given them a link [imdb.com].
Or did they already create the mind machine interface that would download the info directly to their brains and nobody told those of us over 30?Now if they could just get the laser from that movie mounted to a shark's head.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28596703</id>
	<title>Re:Only for some people</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246905120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The basic premise is that the reason why the 50 year olds with all the money don't understand the idea is because they're old, not because <b>the idea is full of shit</b>.</p></div></blockquote><p>I agreed with this post up until the bolded part.  Many of these ideas are <b> <i>not</i> </b> full of shit.  But, the reason many of these 50 year olds with too much money can't understand the ideas is because <b>these particular 50 year olds are stupid</b>.  At least, that's the impression I got reading TFA.  Can't we just leave it at that?  There are good ideas out there and there are bad ones, and it just seems like a matter of knowing what's good and what is not.  Let's not blame the ideas themselves for some venture capitalist's failure to ascertain which is which.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The basic premise is that the reason why the 50 year olds with all the money do n't understand the idea is because they 're old , not because the idea is full of shit.I agreed with this post up until the bolded part .
Many of these ideas are not full of shit .
But , the reason many of these 50 year olds with too much money ca n't understand the ideas is because these particular 50 year olds are stupid .
At least , that 's the impression I got reading TFA .
Ca n't we just leave it at that ?
There are good ideas out there and there are bad ones , and it just seems like a matter of knowing what 's good and what is not .
Let 's not blame the ideas themselves for some venture capitalist 's failure to ascertain which is which .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The basic premise is that the reason why the 50 year olds with all the money don't understand the idea is because they're old, not because the idea is full of shit.I agreed with this post up until the bolded part.
Many of these ideas are  not  full of shit.
But, the reason many of these 50 year olds with too much money can't understand the ideas is because these particular 50 year olds are stupid.
At least, that's the impression I got reading TFA.
Can't we just leave it at that?
There are good ideas out there and there are bad ones, and it just seems like a matter of knowing what's good and what is not.
Let's not blame the ideas themselves for some venture capitalist's failure to ascertain which is which.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28595139</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>bconway</author>
	<datestamp>1246898520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p> <i> "So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old &#226;" who was 24 just five years ago &#226;" would never think of," say Andreessen. "We love that kind of thing." </i> </p><p>Great. More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.</p><p>I'm obsolete at 36.</p></div><p>I know a lot of 20-25 year old people in universities.  My 60+ year old dad keeps up with technology, especially internet technology, better than any of them.  Andreeson's delusional thinking shouldn't be trusted.</p></div><p>The plural of "anecdote" isn't "data."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old   " who was 24 just five years ago   " would never think of , " say Andreessen .
" We love that kind of thing .
" Great .
More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.I 'm obsolete at 36.I know a lot of 20-25 year old people in universities .
My 60 + year old dad keeps up with technology , especially internet technology , better than any of them .
Andreeson 's delusional thinking should n't be trusted.The plural of " anecdote " is n't " data .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  "So the 24-year-old coming out of Stanford will have a view of technology that the 29-year-old â" who was 24 just five years ago â" would never think of," say Andreessen.
"We love that kind of thing.
"  Great.
More age discrimination in software development hiring practices.I'm obsolete at 36.I know a lot of 20-25 year old people in universities.
My 60+ year old dad keeps up with technology, especially internet technology, better than any of them.
Andreeson's delusional thinking shouldn't be trusted.The plural of "anecdote" isn't "data.
"
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28596011</id>
	<title>Re:He won't...</title>
	<author>GMFTatsujin</author>
	<datestamp>1246902420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Harvard and Yale et al are in the business of processing shit into shiny shit, maybe we should stop blaming the shit and start questioning the value of the shit shiners.</p><p>Stop "Harvard" and "Yale" from being the shit shibboleths.  They're not secret code words for "I'm awesome."  They're public shorthand for "I'm riding coat tails."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Harvard and Yale et al are in the business of processing shit into shiny shit , maybe we should stop blaming the shit and start questioning the value of the shit shiners.Stop " Harvard " and " Yale " from being the shit shibboleths .
They 're not secret code words for " I 'm awesome .
" They 're public shorthand for " I 'm riding coat tails .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Harvard and Yale et al are in the business of processing shit into shiny shit, maybe we should stop blaming the shit and start questioning the value of the shit shiners.Stop "Harvard" and "Yale" from being the shit shibboleths.
They're not secret code words for "I'm awesome.
"  They're public shorthand for "I'm riding coat tails.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28597941</id>
	<title>As a 23 year old, let me say</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1246910160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago" I was told there wouldn't be math.</p></div></blockquote><p>tl.dr</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago " I was told there would n't be math.tl.dr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"that the 29-year-old -- who was 24 just five years ago" I was told there wouldn't be math.tl.dr
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594723</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>jacquesm</author>
	<datestamp>1246896600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't bother getting hired, do your own thing and show them how it's done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't bother getting hired , do your own thing and show them how it 's done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't bother getting hired, do your own thing and show them how it's done.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28596077</id>
	<title>Off on a tangent</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246902660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a proud satanist investing in these innovators, I demand to be called a demon investor, not an "angel investor" or some similar pussy ass fairy. (And why aren't there any atheists among the VC any more?)</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a proud satanist investing in these innovators , I demand to be called a demon investor , not an " angel investor " or some similar pussy ass fairy .
( And why are n't there any atheists among the VC any more ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a proud satanist investing in these innovators, I demand to be called a demon investor, not an "angel investor" or some similar pussy ass fairy.
(And why aren't there any atheists among the VC any more?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28601275</id>
	<title>Dumb ass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246882740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So by that logic, Andreessen doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.  If you believe his bs, he'll never be able to find the next "netscape" because he is too old to recognize it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So by that logic , Andreessen does n't know what the hell he 's talking about .
If you believe his bs , he 'll never be able to find the next " netscape " because he is too old to recognize it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So by that logic, Andreessen doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
If you believe his bs, he'll never be able to find the next "netscape" because he is too old to recognize it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594859</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246897380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't feel so bad, Andreessen is 38 and he is trying to pass judgment on the same new ideas that the 29 year-old struggles with. Interesting world-view isn't it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't feel so bad , Andreessen is 38 and he is trying to pass judgment on the same new ideas that the 29 year-old struggles with .
Interesting world-view is n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't feel so bad, Andreessen is 38 and he is trying to pass judgment on the same new ideas that the 29 year-old struggles with.
Interesting world-view isn't it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28598085</id>
	<title>Re:Renew! Renew!</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1246910880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the little brats are so fucking tech-savvy, they should be able to Google it.  Or, saints presever us, use Wikipedia.  On their iPods.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the little brats are so fucking tech-savvy , they should be able to Google it .
Or , saints presever us , use Wikipedia .
On their iPods .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the little brats are so fucking tech-savvy, they should be able to Google it.
Or, saints presever us, use Wikipedia.
On their iPods.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594895</id>
	<title>Re:Hey!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246897620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FOOL! They only told you that to make you useless...</p><p>that's why I'm hitting COBOL hard... when they say it's almost gone, they are in reality teaching all the 23 year olds it, so in a year or two everyone else will not know it anymore...</p><p>It's brilliant...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FOOL !
They only told you that to make you useless...that 's why I 'm hitting COBOL hard... when they say it 's almost gone , they are in reality teaching all the 23 year olds it , so in a year or two everyone else will not know it anymore...It 's brilliant.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FOOL!
They only told you that to make you useless...that's why I'm hitting COBOL hard... when they say it's almost gone, they are in reality teaching all the 23 year olds it, so in a year or two everyone else will not know it anymore...It's brilliant...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28596565</id>
	<title>Re:age discrimination</title>
	<author>gad\_zuki!</author>
	<datestamp>1246904520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yet, its Andreeson who decides which ideas are "good" by investing in them. So he doesnt want the creativity of the 20-something crowd, he wants them to work for peanuts, slave away at a product, put their lives on hold, and take a big bet that they will be the next Facebook while Andreeson and his partners sit back.</p><p>Granted, thats investment in a nutshell, but the ability to choose what to invest in isnt done by the 20 year olds, its done the 50+ crowd.  The reason he's targeting 20 year olds is because they have nothing to lose, while more mature talent arent going to quit their normal jobs to take this risk.</p><p>Singing the praises of a 24 year old is all well and good, but they are certainly not in the drivers seat. Many would say that web-based startups are so risky they are better off landing a normal job and spend the the next few years climbing the ladder instead of living off ramen and begging for investors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yet , its Andreeson who decides which ideas are " good " by investing in them .
So he doesnt want the creativity of the 20-something crowd , he wants them to work for peanuts , slave away at a product , put their lives on hold , and take a big bet that they will be the next Facebook while Andreeson and his partners sit back.Granted , thats investment in a nutshell , but the ability to choose what to invest in isnt done by the 20 year olds , its done the 50 + crowd .
The reason he 's targeting 20 year olds is because they have nothing to lose , while more mature talent arent going to quit their normal jobs to take this risk.Singing the praises of a 24 year old is all well and good , but they are certainly not in the drivers seat .
Many would say that web-based startups are so risky they are better off landing a normal job and spend the the next few years climbing the ladder instead of living off ramen and begging for investors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yet, its Andreeson who decides which ideas are "good" by investing in them.
So he doesnt want the creativity of the 20-something crowd, he wants them to work for peanuts, slave away at a product, put their lives on hold, and take a big bet that they will be the next Facebook while Andreeson and his partners sit back.Granted, thats investment in a nutshell, but the ability to choose what to invest in isnt done by the 20 year olds, its done the 50+ crowd.
The reason he's targeting 20 year olds is because they have nothing to lose, while more mature talent arent going to quit their normal jobs to take this risk.Singing the praises of a 24 year old is all well and good, but they are certainly not in the drivers seat.
Many would say that web-based startups are so risky they are better off landing a normal job and spend the the next few years climbing the ladder instead of living off ramen and begging for investors.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594685</id>
	<title>obsolete already</title>
	<author>doti</author>
	<datestamp>1246896420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>online services won't merely supplement your TV viewing or newspaper reading, but will replace those activities altogether.</p></div><p> <b>Will</b> replace?</p><p>For me, at least, it has replaced already.<br>Many years have passed since I bought my last newspaper, and I only watch TV for live football games.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>online services wo n't merely supplement your TV viewing or newspaper reading , but will replace those activities altogether .
Will replace ? For me , at least , it has replaced already.Many years have passed since I bought my last newspaper , and I only watch TV for live football games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>online services won't merely supplement your TV viewing or newspaper reading, but will replace those activities altogether.
Will replace?For me, at least, it has replaced already.Many years have passed since I bought my last newspaper, and I only watch TV for live football games.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28594639</id>
	<title>2nd is the first loser</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246896180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So they'll fund the also-ran companies that no one wanted to buy?</p><p>Let's see- for YouTube, that would have been Break.com, Dailymotion, and about ten zillion other video startups that I am having trouble recalling at this point.</p><p>This sounds like a strategy out of an airport business book, but it needs a snappier tagline- something like "The Goldilocks Effect." You don't want the company that's too hot...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So they 'll fund the also-ran companies that no one wanted to buy ? Let 's see- for YouTube , that would have been Break.com , Dailymotion , and about ten zillion other video startups that I am having trouble recalling at this point.This sounds like a strategy out of an airport business book , but it needs a snappier tagline- something like " The Goldilocks Effect .
" You do n't want the company that 's too hot.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they'll fund the also-ran companies that no one wanted to buy?Let's see- for YouTube, that would have been Break.com, Dailymotion, and about ten zillion other video startups that I am having trouble recalling at this point.This sounds like a strategy out of an airport business book, but it needs a snappier tagline- something like "The Goldilocks Effect.
" You don't want the company that's too hot...</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_06_1418225.28599233</id>
	<title>Re:"Eyeballs", not revenue - NOT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246872840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then why are these people creating these websites being rewarded with so much money out of proportion to the value actually created?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then why are these people creating these websites being rewarded with so much money out of proportion to the value actually created ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then why are these people creating these websites being rewarded with so much money out of proportion to the value actually created?</sentencetext>
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