<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_05_128213</id>
	<title>Testing 3G Networks Across the US</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1246801260000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>PCWorld recently <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/printable/article/id,167391/printable.html">tested the 3G networks of AT&amp;T, Verizon, and Sprint</a> in 13 different cities across the US. They've now posted the results, which show that Sprint and Verizon are neck-and-neck for reliability, while AT&amp;T has consistently higher upload rates. From the article: <i>"Across more than 20 testing locations in each of the 13 cities we tested, Verizon had an average download speed of 951 kbps. Verizon demonstrated good reliability, too; the network was available at a reasonable and uninterrupted speed in 89.8 percent of our tests. Sprint's 3G network delivered a solid connection in 90.5 percent of our 13-city tests. Sprint's average download speed of 808 kbps across 13 cities wasn't flashy (at that speed, a 1MB file downloads in 10 seconds), but dependability is an important asset. The Sprint network performed especially well, both in speed and in reliability, in our test cities in the western part of the United States. The AT&amp;T network's 13-city average download speed in our tests was 812 kbps. Its average upload speed was 660 kbps. Reliability was an issue in our experience of the AT&amp;T system: Our testers were able to make a connection at a reasonable, uninterrupted speed in only 68 percent of their tests."</i> What have you noticed about the various carriers in your city?</htmltext>
<tokenext>PCWorld recently tested the 3G networks of AT&amp;T , Verizon , and Sprint in 13 different cities across the US .
They 've now posted the results , which show that Sprint and Verizon are neck-and-neck for reliability , while AT&amp;T has consistently higher upload rates .
From the article : " Across more than 20 testing locations in each of the 13 cities we tested , Verizon had an average download speed of 951 kbps .
Verizon demonstrated good reliability , too ; the network was available at a reasonable and uninterrupted speed in 89.8 percent of our tests .
Sprint 's 3G network delivered a solid connection in 90.5 percent of our 13-city tests .
Sprint 's average download speed of 808 kbps across 13 cities was n't flashy ( at that speed , a 1MB file downloads in 10 seconds ) , but dependability is an important asset .
The Sprint network performed especially well , both in speed and in reliability , in our test cities in the western part of the United States .
The AT&amp;T network 's 13-city average download speed in our tests was 812 kbps .
Its average upload speed was 660 kbps .
Reliability was an issue in our experience of the AT&amp;T system : Our testers were able to make a connection at a reasonable , uninterrupted speed in only 68 percent of their tests .
" What have you noticed about the various carriers in your city ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PCWorld recently tested the 3G networks of AT&amp;T, Verizon, and Sprint in 13 different cities across the US.
They've now posted the results, which show that Sprint and Verizon are neck-and-neck for reliability, while AT&amp;T has consistently higher upload rates.
From the article: "Across more than 20 testing locations in each of the 13 cities we tested, Verizon had an average download speed of 951 kbps.
Verizon demonstrated good reliability, too; the network was available at a reasonable and uninterrupted speed in 89.8 percent of our tests.
Sprint's 3G network delivered a solid connection in 90.5 percent of our 13-city tests.
Sprint's average download speed of 808 kbps across 13 cities wasn't flashy (at that speed, a 1MB file downloads in 10 seconds), but dependability is an important asset.
The Sprint network performed especially well, both in speed and in reliability, in our test cities in the western part of the United States.
The AT&amp;T network's 13-city average download speed in our tests was 812 kbps.
Its average upload speed was 660 kbps.
Reliability was an issue in our experience of the AT&amp;T system: Our testers were able to make a connection at a reasonable, uninterrupted speed in only 68 percent of their tests.
" What have you noticed about the various carriers in your city?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28591527</id>
	<title>Re:Reliability more important than speed</title>
	<author>paimin</author>
	<datestamp>1246821540000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Yeah, it's pretty bloody pathetic.  It's a tiny city, 7x7 miles, and what's more it's right next to Apple HQ, and is the site of the flagship Apple Store.  You would think that, at least in SF, the shit would work right.<br>
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I guess it must be rocket science.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's pretty bloody pathetic .
It 's a tiny city , 7x7 miles , and what 's more it 's right next to Apple HQ , and is the site of the flagship Apple Store .
You would think that , at least in SF , the shit would work right .
I guess it must be rocket science .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's pretty bloody pathetic.
It's a tiny city, 7x7 miles, and what's more it's right next to Apple HQ, and is the site of the flagship Apple Store.
You would think that, at least in SF, the shit would work right.
I guess it must be rocket science.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28588867</id>
	<title>Re:And then the commercials</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1246790700000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p> <i>You'll be careful to note that in these endless commercials about high speed internet from any company they're careful to never put any number in it except the phone number to call. So it's not so much that they're lying -- it's really more that they're speaking sweet nothings, which is perfectly legal (and disingenuous).</i> </p><p>I have a big problem with ComCast's ads and junk mail.  One thing that bothers me is their ads saying they're faster than DSL.  Sure theoretically cable can be faster, but on a shared line, if a bunch of people are using net access at the same tyme it will slow down.  DSL though is a dedicated line.  Now if cable cos were to upgrade to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Speed\_Table" title="wikipedia.org">DOCSIS 3</a> [wikipedia.org] they would have faster speeds.</p><p> <i>Comcast delivers an acceptable experience to a certain class of internet users and has crafted their service accordingly. The problem is that this service isn't tiered or can be adapted to serve several different markets. There is only one service, one market, and if you don't like it--you may not have any other options.</i> </p><p>No, ComCast offers different <a href="http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Learn/Business/business.html" title="comcast.com">business class access</a> [comcast.com] plans.</p><p> <i>Any business in the same position and market(s) as Comcast would be doing the exact same thing, because Comcast doesn't exist to bring internet to the masses</i> </p><p>As a corporation with limited liability ComCast is supposed to serve the common or public good, that is the only reason businesses were given limited liability by incorporating.  See this post of <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=972189&amp;cid=25113827" title="slashdot.org">mine</a> [slashdot.org] for more.</p><p> <i>And the reason why service is shit in so many parts of this country isn't because of Evil BigCorp and their profiteering ways, but rather;</i> </p><p> <i>a) Infrastructure costs are a very high barrier to entry into the market.</i> </p><p>It's expensive for landlines not for wireless.  The expense with wireless is the licensing.</p><p> <i>b) Municipalities create a byzantine and very expensive approval process that takes a very, very long time to get through.... Comcast has already laid out all of these funds -- and it had to deliver crappy service to pay for the tariffs imposed by an exceptionally long line of government agents who all wanted their say and their pound of flesh.</i> </p><p>Companies like ComCast and ATT were given <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural\_monopolies" title="wikipedia.org">natural monopolies</a> [wikipedia.org], exclusive rights to the use of right of ways, by those governments.  And even now those corporations are trying to stop competition.</p><p> <i>c) And last, frankly, who gives a crap about infrastructure in this country anyway. Don't we have bigger problems, like unemployment, roads that are falling apart, bridges falling down, a health care crisis brought on by the poor spending habits and planning of an entire generation, and paying how much to bomb how many countries with unpronouncable names again? Please -- internet is a low priority for our government, and it's constituent population.</i> </p><p>An improved infrastructure can help the economy, whether it's bridges, broadband, or roads.  And the "health care crisis", if there is one, is because there is not a free market in health care.  As for attacking other countries, many of us were against the attacks.  Other's fell for the lies told to sell war.  The Taliban asked to see evidence bin Laden had anything to do with 911 but was told to get lost.  And Iraq was invaded because Saddam was supposed to have WMDs.  Well I've been waiting to see them, but haven't yet.</p><p>Now I'm not saying nothing should have been done about either the Taliban or Saddam, something should have been done.  Such as not having supported the Taliban and Saddam to begin with.  Yes the US supported both throughout the 1980s.  The US supported the Mujahideen in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahideen#Afghanistan" title="wikipedia.org">Afghanistan</a> [wikipedia.org] after the Soviet invasion there.  Once the Soviet left US</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'll be careful to note that in these endless commercials about high speed internet from any company they 're careful to never put any number in it except the phone number to call .
So it 's not so much that they 're lying -- it 's really more that they 're speaking sweet nothings , which is perfectly legal ( and disingenuous ) .
I have a big problem with ComCast 's ads and junk mail .
One thing that bothers me is their ads saying they 're faster than DSL .
Sure theoretically cable can be faster , but on a shared line , if a bunch of people are using net access at the same tyme it will slow down .
DSL though is a dedicated line .
Now if cable cos were to upgrade to DOCSIS 3 [ wikipedia.org ] they would have faster speeds .
Comcast delivers an acceptable experience to a certain class of internet users and has crafted their service accordingly .
The problem is that this service is n't tiered or can be adapted to serve several different markets .
There is only one service , one market , and if you do n't like it--you may not have any other options .
No , ComCast offers different business class access [ comcast.com ] plans .
Any business in the same position and market ( s ) as Comcast would be doing the exact same thing , because Comcast does n't exist to bring internet to the masses As a corporation with limited liability ComCast is supposed to serve the common or public good , that is the only reason businesses were given limited liability by incorporating .
See this post of mine [ slashdot.org ] for more .
And the reason why service is shit in so many parts of this country is n't because of Evil BigCorp and their profiteering ways , but rather ; a ) Infrastructure costs are a very high barrier to entry into the market .
It 's expensive for landlines not for wireless .
The expense with wireless is the licensing .
b ) Municipalities create a byzantine and very expensive approval process that takes a very , very long time to get through.... Comcast has already laid out all of these funds -- and it had to deliver crappy service to pay for the tariffs imposed by an exceptionally long line of government agents who all wanted their say and their pound of flesh .
Companies like ComCast and ATT were given natural monopolies [ wikipedia.org ] , exclusive rights to the use of right of ways , by those governments .
And even now those corporations are trying to stop competition .
c ) And last , frankly , who gives a crap about infrastructure in this country anyway .
Do n't we have bigger problems , like unemployment , roads that are falling apart , bridges falling down , a health care crisis brought on by the poor spending habits and planning of an entire generation , and paying how much to bomb how many countries with unpronouncable names again ?
Please -- internet is a low priority for our government , and it 's constituent population .
An improved infrastructure can help the economy , whether it 's bridges , broadband , or roads .
And the " health care crisis " , if there is one , is because there is not a free market in health care .
As for attacking other countries , many of us were against the attacks .
Other 's fell for the lies told to sell war .
The Taliban asked to see evidence bin Laden had anything to do with 911 but was told to get lost .
And Iraq was invaded because Saddam was supposed to have WMDs .
Well I 've been waiting to see them , but have n't yet.Now I 'm not saying nothing should have been done about either the Taliban or Saddam , something should have been done .
Such as not having supported the Taliban and Saddam to begin with .
Yes the US supported both throughout the 1980s .
The US supported the Mujahideen in Afghanistan [ wikipedia.org ] after the Soviet invasion there .
Once the Soviet left US</tokentext>
<sentencetext> You'll be careful to note that in these endless commercials about high speed internet from any company they're careful to never put any number in it except the phone number to call.
So it's not so much that they're lying -- it's really more that they're speaking sweet nothings, which is perfectly legal (and disingenuous).
I have a big problem with ComCast's ads and junk mail.
One thing that bothers me is their ads saying they're faster than DSL.
Sure theoretically cable can be faster, but on a shared line, if a bunch of people are using net access at the same tyme it will slow down.
DSL though is a dedicated line.
Now if cable cos were to upgrade to DOCSIS 3 [wikipedia.org] they would have faster speeds.
Comcast delivers an acceptable experience to a certain class of internet users and has crafted their service accordingly.
The problem is that this service isn't tiered or can be adapted to serve several different markets.
There is only one service, one market, and if you don't like it--you may not have any other options.
No, ComCast offers different business class access [comcast.com] plans.
Any business in the same position and market(s) as Comcast would be doing the exact same thing, because Comcast doesn't exist to bring internet to the masses As a corporation with limited liability ComCast is supposed to serve the common or public good, that is the only reason businesses were given limited liability by incorporating.
See this post of mine [slashdot.org] for more.
And the reason why service is shit in so many parts of this country isn't because of Evil BigCorp and their profiteering ways, but rather;  a) Infrastructure costs are a very high barrier to entry into the market.
It's expensive for landlines not for wireless.
The expense with wireless is the licensing.
b) Municipalities create a byzantine and very expensive approval process that takes a very, very long time to get through.... Comcast has already laid out all of these funds -- and it had to deliver crappy service to pay for the tariffs imposed by an exceptionally long line of government agents who all wanted their say and their pound of flesh.
Companies like ComCast and ATT were given natural monopolies [wikipedia.org], exclusive rights to the use of right of ways, by those governments.
And even now those corporations are trying to stop competition.
c) And last, frankly, who gives a crap about infrastructure in this country anyway.
Don't we have bigger problems, like unemployment, roads that are falling apart, bridges falling down, a health care crisis brought on by the poor spending habits and planning of an entire generation, and paying how much to bomb how many countries with unpronouncable names again?
Please -- internet is a low priority for our government, and it's constituent population.
An improved infrastructure can help the economy, whether it's bridges, broadband, or roads.
And the "health care crisis", if there is one, is because there is not a free market in health care.
As for attacking other countries, many of us were against the attacks.
Other's fell for the lies told to sell war.
The Taliban asked to see evidence bin Laden had anything to do with 911 but was told to get lost.
And Iraq was invaded because Saddam was supposed to have WMDs.
Well I've been waiting to see them, but haven't yet.Now I'm not saying nothing should have been done about either the Taliban or Saddam, something should have been done.
Such as not having supported the Taliban and Saddam to begin with.
Yes the US supported both throughout the 1980s.
The US supported the Mujahideen in Afghanistan [wikipedia.org] after the Soviet invasion there.
Once the Soviet left US</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586345</id>
	<title>BITch</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246809000000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>dyi8g. All major was after a long</htmltext>
<tokenext>dyi8g .
All major was after a long</tokentext>
<sentencetext>dyi8g.
All major was after a long</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28596805</id>
	<title>They all suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246905540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Look... because of the nature of the technology, they are all going to suck.  Even the best carrier in any given town will have armies of disgruntled users. No service reaches every nook and cranny in a town, there will always be dead spots, and never enough capacity. If you can avoid both those problems, your going to love your service, but if you encounter one or the other.. well, like I said.. They all suck.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Look... because of the nature of the technology , they are all going to suck .
Even the best carrier in any given town will have armies of disgruntled users .
No service reaches every nook and cranny in a town , there will always be dead spots , and never enough capacity .
If you can avoid both those problems , your going to love your service , but if you encounter one or the other.. well , like I said.. They all suck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look... because of the nature of the technology, they are all going to suck.
Even the best carrier in any given town will have armies of disgruntled users.
No service reaches every nook and cranny in a town, there will always be dead spots, and never enough capacity.
If you can avoid both those problems, your going to love your service, but if you encounter one or the other.. well, like I said.. They all suck.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28590009</id>
	<title>F* AT&amp;T</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246804200000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I'm pretty pissed at AT&amp;T right now. My elderly father has been with them since he first got a cellphone a couple years back. Only one problem: he doesn't get reception at his own house. Never having had a cell before he wasn't too bothered by this. Worse still, when I found out about this situation, it was after he'd gone in for renewal and told them about the problem a good one year and eleven months into his contract and what did the salesperson do?</p><p>They convinced him that the best solution would be this shiny new phone, surely it would work at his house, and hey, it's free if he re-ups his contract. So, they lock him in for another two years and it still doesn't work there. So, even after complaining roundly, talking to AT&amp;T tech staff who confirmed that his phone isn't receiving a signal for large hours of the day, they still would not pro-rate his contract to let him out (contract was over a year old now). They wouldn't do it, even though they pro-rate all new contracts!</p><p>These AT&amp;T bastards will NEVER see me as a customer again. Their own tech staff showed the phone didn't receive a signal. But, because there's 'green coverage' in his area, they were unwilling to do a damned thing for us. So screw them. No one should buy an AT&amp;T cellphone, and I can see by this survey that they suck on a much larger scale as well.</p><p>Screw you AT&amp;T. Stop defrauding people, take down your 'Best coverage in America' slogan and cram it up your ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty pissed at AT&amp;T right now .
My elderly father has been with them since he first got a cellphone a couple years back .
Only one problem : he does n't get reception at his own house .
Never having had a cell before he was n't too bothered by this .
Worse still , when I found out about this situation , it was after he 'd gone in for renewal and told them about the problem a good one year and eleven months into his contract and what did the salesperson do ? They convinced him that the best solution would be this shiny new phone , surely it would work at his house , and hey , it 's free if he re-ups his contract .
So , they lock him in for another two years and it still does n't work there .
So , even after complaining roundly , talking to AT&amp;T tech staff who confirmed that his phone is n't receiving a signal for large hours of the day , they still would not pro-rate his contract to let him out ( contract was over a year old now ) .
They would n't do it , even though they pro-rate all new contracts ! These AT&amp;T bastards will NEVER see me as a customer again .
Their own tech staff showed the phone did n't receive a signal .
But , because there 's 'green coverage ' in his area , they were unwilling to do a damned thing for us .
So screw them .
No one should buy an AT&amp;T cellphone , and I can see by this survey that they suck on a much larger scale as well.Screw you AT&amp;T .
Stop defrauding people , take down your 'Best coverage in America ' slogan and cram it up your ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty pissed at AT&amp;T right now.
My elderly father has been with them since he first got a cellphone a couple years back.
Only one problem: he doesn't get reception at his own house.
Never having had a cell before he wasn't too bothered by this.
Worse still, when I found out about this situation, it was after he'd gone in for renewal and told them about the problem a good one year and eleven months into his contract and what did the salesperson do?They convinced him that the best solution would be this shiny new phone, surely it would work at his house, and hey, it's free if he re-ups his contract.
So, they lock him in for another two years and it still doesn't work there.
So, even after complaining roundly, talking to AT&amp;T tech staff who confirmed that his phone isn't receiving a signal for large hours of the day, they still would not pro-rate his contract to let him out (contract was over a year old now).
They wouldn't do it, even though they pro-rate all new contracts!These AT&amp;T bastards will NEVER see me as a customer again.
Their own tech staff showed the phone didn't receive a signal.
But, because there's 'green coverage' in his area, they were unwilling to do a damned thing for us.
So screw them.
No one should buy an AT&amp;T cellphone, and I can see by this survey that they suck on a much larger scale as well.Screw you AT&amp;T.
Stop defrauding people, take down your 'Best coverage in America' slogan and cram it up your ass.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28593849</id>
	<title>Inter-City Problems</title>
	<author>sampson7</author>
	<datestamp>1246891740000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>To me the test of a good wireless carrier is whether I can travel from Washington, DC to New York City by train and maintain a wireless connection.  I'll even give them the tunnels.  I am a business traveler and basically work up and down the east coast.  The fact that I cannot maintain a wireless internet connection on either T-Mobile or AT&amp;T up and down the Northeast Corridor is nuts.  If competion is such a driver of innovation, why has no one capitalized on the ultimate high-dollar captive market???</htmltext>
<tokenext>To me the test of a good wireless carrier is whether I can travel from Washington , DC to New York City by train and maintain a wireless connection .
I 'll even give them the tunnels .
I am a business traveler and basically work up and down the east coast .
The fact that I can not maintain a wireless internet connection on either T-Mobile or AT&amp;T up and down the Northeast Corridor is nuts .
If competion is such a driver of innovation , why has no one capitalized on the ultimate high-dollar captive market ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me the test of a good wireless carrier is whether I can travel from Washington, DC to New York City by train and maintain a wireless connection.
I'll even give them the tunnels.
I am a business traveler and basically work up and down the east coast.
The fact that I cannot maintain a wireless internet connection on either T-Mobile or AT&amp;T up and down the Northeast Corridor is nuts.
If competion is such a driver of innovation, why has no one capitalized on the ultimate high-dollar captive market??
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28587379</id>
	<title>Results of my own 3g test</title>
	<author>firegate</author>
	<datestamp>1246820460000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>The company I work for keeps a pool of aircards for employees who travel (mostly sprint, but we also have two verizon and two at&amp;t). I took one from all three providers on a trip to run my own speed test about a year ago - tested them on a drive up from Las Vegas through Los Angeles, Monterey, San Francisco to Sacramento. The Sprint was consistently the fastest (I'd usually get download rates around 1.2-1.4mbps - did not test for upload) and seemed to get the best reception in most places (particularly while on the move and not in a major city, it would still remain on their 3g network). The AT&amp;T was the true speed king, topping out around 1.8mbps downstream as I recall, but only in the middle of Los Angeles and San Francisco - anywhere else, it had spotty connectivity and would frequently drop down to the EDGE network. I never got past 900kbps on the Verizon and it also seemed to drop to "2.5g" quite often. I now carry one of the Sprint aircards with me at all times, and you'd have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
<br> <br>
One other thing I found - not all aircards are alike. I tested through 4 of the Sprint aircards from the same location and found that two of them were consistently much faster than the other two to the tune of around 250kbps on average. All were the same model (Novotel EX720).
<br> <br>
Testing was all done on my Macbook Pro.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The company I work for keeps a pool of aircards for employees who travel ( mostly sprint , but we also have two verizon and two at&amp;t ) .
I took one from all three providers on a trip to run my own speed test about a year ago - tested them on a drive up from Las Vegas through Los Angeles , Monterey , San Francisco to Sacramento .
The Sprint was consistently the fastest ( I 'd usually get download rates around 1.2-1.4mbps - did not test for upload ) and seemed to get the best reception in most places ( particularly while on the move and not in a major city , it would still remain on their 3g network ) .
The AT&amp;T was the true speed king , topping out around 1.8mbps downstream as I recall , but only in the middle of Los Angeles and San Francisco - anywhere else , it had spotty connectivity and would frequently drop down to the EDGE network .
I never got past 900kbps on the Verizon and it also seemed to drop to " 2.5g " quite often .
I now carry one of the Sprint aircards with me at all times , and you 'd have to pry it from my cold dead hands .
One other thing I found - not all aircards are alike .
I tested through 4 of the Sprint aircards from the same location and found that two of them were consistently much faster than the other two to the tune of around 250kbps on average .
All were the same model ( Novotel EX720 ) .
Testing was all done on my Macbook Pro .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The company I work for keeps a pool of aircards for employees who travel (mostly sprint, but we also have two verizon and two at&amp;t).
I took one from all three providers on a trip to run my own speed test about a year ago - tested them on a drive up from Las Vegas through Los Angeles, Monterey, San Francisco to Sacramento.
The Sprint was consistently the fastest (I'd usually get download rates around 1.2-1.4mbps - did not test for upload) and seemed to get the best reception in most places (particularly while on the move and not in a major city, it would still remain on their 3g network).
The AT&amp;T was the true speed king, topping out around 1.8mbps downstream as I recall, but only in the middle of Los Angeles and San Francisco - anywhere else, it had spotty connectivity and would frequently drop down to the EDGE network.
I never got past 900kbps on the Verizon and it also seemed to drop to "2.5g" quite often.
I now carry one of the Sprint aircards with me at all times, and you'd have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
One other thing I found - not all aircards are alike.
I tested through 4 of the Sprint aircards from the same location and found that two of them were consistently much faster than the other two to the tune of around 250kbps on average.
All were the same model (Novotel EX720).
Testing was all done on my Macbook Pro.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28588243</id>
	<title>Re:It's not the cities, it's the spaces in between</title>
	<author>dlevitan</author>
	<datestamp>1246785060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Get me some coverage in Yosemite. Death Valley. Appalachia. Crater Lake. Yellowstone. Shasta. Mt. McKinley. Grand Canyon. From Blaine, WA to Miami, FL. San Diego, CA to Eastport, ME. Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours.</p></div><p>No. Please no more coverage in Yosemite or death valley or any other part of the "great outdoors". I go to these places to get away from everything - not to listen to some stupid idiot blabbering away on his cell phone. The only legitimate use of cell phones in parks is emergencies. The only way I'd be in agreement with cell phone companies providing coverage in national parks/forests is if they charge $100/minute for calls except 911, which would be routed to the local ranger station. They can even do a 50/50 split with the NPS - win-win-win situation for the NPS, cell phone companies, and the public.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get me some coverage in Yosemite .
Death Valley .
Appalachia. Crater Lake .
Yellowstone. Shasta .
Mt. McKinley .
Grand Canyon .
From Blaine , WA to Miami , FL .
San Diego , CA to Eastport , ME .
Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours.No .
Please no more coverage in Yosemite or death valley or any other part of the " great outdoors " .
I go to these places to get away from everything - not to listen to some stupid idiot blabbering away on his cell phone .
The only legitimate use of cell phones in parks is emergencies .
The only way I 'd be in agreement with cell phone companies providing coverage in national parks/forests is if they charge $ 100/minute for calls except 911 , which would be routed to the local ranger station .
They can even do a 50/50 split with the NPS - win-win-win situation for the NPS , cell phone companies , and the public .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get me some coverage in Yosemite.
Death Valley.
Appalachia. Crater Lake.
Yellowstone. Shasta.
Mt. McKinley.
Grand Canyon.
From Blaine, WA to Miami, FL.
San Diego, CA to Eastport, ME.
Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours.No.
Please no more coverage in Yosemite or death valley or any other part of the "great outdoors".
I go to these places to get away from everything - not to listen to some stupid idiot blabbering away on his cell phone.
The only legitimate use of cell phones in parks is emergencies.
The only way I'd be in agreement with cell phone companies providing coverage in national parks/forests is if they charge $100/minute for calls except 911, which would be routed to the local ranger station.
They can even do a 50/50 split with the NPS - win-win-win situation for the NPS, cell phone companies, and the public.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586177</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586941</id>
	<title>It's a good thing they didn't test T-Mobile's 3G</title>
	<author>DragonTHC</author>
	<datestamp>1246816380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would have been a laughingstock.</p><p>T-Mobile's 3G is like Swiss cheese here in Miami.</p><p>And when it does work, it's usually less than a megabit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would have been a laughingstock.T-Mobile 's 3G is like Swiss cheese here in Miami.And when it does work , it 's usually less than a megabit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would have been a laughingstock.T-Mobile's 3G is like Swiss cheese here in Miami.And when it does work, it's usually less than a megabit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28591305</id>
	<title>Re:AT&amp;T vs Sprint or Verizon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246819020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Umm... T-mobile uses the ATT network.</p><p>They get second priority.</p><p>So, there is your answer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Umm... T-mobile uses the ATT network.They get second priority.So , there is your answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Umm... T-mobile uses the ATT network.They get second priority.So, there is your answer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586875</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28587209</id>
	<title>Re:The test seems to be bogus</title>
	<author>karnal</author>
	<datestamp>1246819020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I understand that sometimes testing methodology for getting these networks up and running makes it important to use the proper tools and tweaks.  I do this for our wireless network where I work, and it only makes sense to have an idea that you'll have good coverage before users show up.</p><p>Obviously, PCWorld's testing methodology wasn't totally revealed.  I would have to say that the typical user of the service is not going to have the tools or specifically limit the types of traffic they attempt to run across that network.  They're going to use it as they see fit, and get pissed if it doesn't meet their expectations.</p><p>Long post short, if I buy a data card and it doesn't work for every application that I'd see to use it for, then I'd probably complain about the network too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I understand that sometimes testing methodology for getting these networks up and running makes it important to use the proper tools and tweaks .
I do this for our wireless network where I work , and it only makes sense to have an idea that you 'll have good coverage before users show up.Obviously , PCWorld 's testing methodology was n't totally revealed .
I would have to say that the typical user of the service is not going to have the tools or specifically limit the types of traffic they attempt to run across that network .
They 're going to use it as they see fit , and get pissed if it does n't meet their expectations.Long post short , if I buy a data card and it does n't work for every application that I 'd see to use it for , then I 'd probably complain about the network too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I understand that sometimes testing methodology for getting these networks up and running makes it important to use the proper tools and tweaks.
I do this for our wireless network where I work, and it only makes sense to have an idea that you'll have good coverage before users show up.Obviously, PCWorld's testing methodology wasn't totally revealed.
I would have to say that the typical user of the service is not going to have the tools or specifically limit the types of traffic they attempt to run across that network.
They're going to use it as they see fit, and get pissed if it doesn't meet their expectations.Long post short, if I buy a data card and it doesn't work for every application that I'd see to use it for, then I'd probably complain about the network too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586507</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586659</id>
	<title>Road warrior perspective</title>
	<author>cybrchld</author>
	<datestamp>1246812900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm constantly on the road traveling and have had all three services,  i can tell you Verizon has had the best coverage around the county, specially rural areas,  whats the point of having the fastest network if when you need it you cant connect. this is where ATT and sprint fall short on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm constantly on the road traveling and have had all three services , i can tell you Verizon has had the best coverage around the county , specially rural areas , whats the point of having the fastest network if when you need it you cant connect .
this is where ATT and sprint fall short on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm constantly on the road traveling and have had all three services,  i can tell you Verizon has had the best coverage around the county, specially rural areas,  whats the point of having the fastest network if when you need it you cant connect.
this is where ATT and sprint fall short on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28588423</id>
	<title>Average is hardly useful</title>
	<author>Brian Feldman</author>
	<datestamp>1246786440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't see how average coverage is useful except for people that spend all their time traveling -- which is not terribly common in terms of cell phone users, now ks it?</p><p>In any case, I have Sprint now (with a Pre) and I consistently get T1 speeds in both directions in the DC area.  It absolutely destroys the speed of both my DSL at home and leased line at work, unfortunately...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see how average coverage is useful except for people that spend all their time traveling -- which is not terribly common in terms of cell phone users , now ks it ? In any case , I have Sprint now ( with a Pre ) and I consistently get T1 speeds in both directions in the DC area .
It absolutely destroys the speed of both my DSL at home and leased line at work , unfortunately.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see how average coverage is useful except for people that spend all their time traveling -- which is not terribly common in terms of cell phone users, now ks it?In any case, I have Sprint now (with a Pre) and I consistently get T1 speeds in both directions in the DC area.
It absolutely destroys the speed of both my DSL at home and leased line at work, unfortunately...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586253</id>
	<title>Re:It's not the cities, it's the spaces in between</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246807740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While to believe the commercials from the larger players, there will never be absolutely seamless coverage across the nation because<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p><p>1.  There are places nobody lives (or it's economically unfeasible to cover)<br>2.  Transmit powers are 1/12 of what they were in the analog era<br>3.  They can't just throw a tower up anywhere</p><p>Back when analog bag phones were the norm, I never found anyplace without coverage<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. why?  Because on analog they had a nominal 3 watt transmit power on the phone, which let you have towers dozens of miles apart and still get a reliable signal.  Today's mobiles operate at<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.25 of a watt or less, and since the 3G spec devices currently at or becoming the norm are based on CDMA technology (CDMA or WCDMA/HS?PA), the transmit power will only go down based on the load of the tower.  (Under CDMA, the transmit power decreases when the load rises, lowering the noise floor and allowing more devices on the tower, with the net effect of creating islands of service if the network has hot spots and they don't plan accordingly).</p><p>As far as towers and stuff are concerned, I remember reading an article from upstate new york about a stretch of state highway that had pristine views, and a very high mortality rate in the winter because nobody had cell service up that way.  The local government bodies sued and cajoled the cell carriers to build coverage, but wouldn't let them put the tall towers up to allow service in an economically feasible way.  Net result, no coverage and more death, but the view was still great.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While to believe the commercials from the larger players , there will never be absolutely seamless coverage across the nation because ..1 .
There are places nobody lives ( or it 's economically unfeasible to cover ) 2 .
Transmit powers are 1/12 of what they were in the analog era3 .
They ca n't just throw a tower up anywhereBack when analog bag phones were the norm , I never found anyplace without coverage .. why ? Because on analog they had a nominal 3 watt transmit power on the phone , which let you have towers dozens of miles apart and still get a reliable signal .
Today 's mobiles operate at .25 of a watt or less , and since the 3G spec devices currently at or becoming the norm are based on CDMA technology ( CDMA or WCDMA/HS ? PA ) , the transmit power will only go down based on the load of the tower .
( Under CDMA , the transmit power decreases when the load rises , lowering the noise floor and allowing more devices on the tower , with the net effect of creating islands of service if the network has hot spots and they do n't plan accordingly ) .As far as towers and stuff are concerned , I remember reading an article from upstate new york about a stretch of state highway that had pristine views , and a very high mortality rate in the winter because nobody had cell service up that way .
The local government bodies sued and cajoled the cell carriers to build coverage , but would n't let them put the tall towers up to allow service in an economically feasible way .
Net result , no coverage and more death , but the view was still great .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While to believe the commercials from the larger players, there will never be absolutely seamless coverage across the nation because ..1.
There are places nobody lives (or it's economically unfeasible to cover)2.
Transmit powers are 1/12 of what they were in the analog era3.
They can't just throw a tower up anywhereBack when analog bag phones were the norm, I never found anyplace without coverage .. why?  Because on analog they had a nominal 3 watt transmit power on the phone, which let you have towers dozens of miles apart and still get a reliable signal.
Today's mobiles operate at .25 of a watt or less, and since the 3G spec devices currently at or becoming the norm are based on CDMA technology (CDMA or WCDMA/HS?PA), the transmit power will only go down based on the load of the tower.
(Under CDMA, the transmit power decreases when the load rises, lowering the noise floor and allowing more devices on the tower, with the net effect of creating islands of service if the network has hot spots and they don't plan accordingly).As far as towers and stuff are concerned, I remember reading an article from upstate new york about a stretch of state highway that had pristine views, and a very high mortality rate in the winter because nobody had cell service up that way.
The local government bodies sued and cajoled the cell carriers to build coverage, but wouldn't let them put the tall towers up to allow service in an economically feasible way.
Net result, no coverage and more death, but the view was still great.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586177</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28588975</id>
	<title>Re:It's not the cities, it's the spaces in between</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1246791660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Get me some coverage in Yosemite. Death Valley. Appalachia. Crater Lake. Yellowstone. Shasta. Mt. McKinley. Grand Canyon. From Blaine, WA to Miami, FL. San Diego, CA to Eastport, ME. Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours.</i></p><p>Oh, I agree.  I love hiking, scuba diving, and photography and I'd love to be able to upload my photos to a server while out hiking or after I surface from a dive.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get me some coverage in Yosemite .
Death Valley .
Appalachia. Crater Lake .
Yellowstone. Shasta .
Mt. McKinley .
Grand Canyon .
From Blaine , WA to Miami , FL .
San Diego , CA to Eastport , ME .
Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours.Oh , I agree .
I love hiking , scuba diving , and photography and I 'd love to be able to upload my photos to a server while out hiking or after I surface from a dive .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get me some coverage in Yosemite.
Death Valley.
Appalachia. Crater Lake.
Yellowstone. Shasta.
Mt. McKinley.
Grand Canyon.
From Blaine, WA to Miami, FL.
San Diego, CA to Eastport, ME.
Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours.Oh, I agree.
I love hiking, scuba diving, and photography and I'd love to be able to upload my photos to a server while out hiking or after I surface from a dive.
Falcon</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586177</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586165</id>
	<title>Verizon wins</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246806300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looking at the charts, Verizon wins pretty handily unless you're in specific cities looking for a phone.  They are the fastest downloader in 7 of the 13 spots, and most reliable in 7 of the 13 spots.  Kind of funny that the home of the iPhone doesn't manage a decent reliability in any city besides Boston.  Only thing they really lose on is upload speeds.

Although, it is weird they didn't test in Los Angeles.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking at the charts , Verizon wins pretty handily unless you 're in specific cities looking for a phone .
They are the fastest downloader in 7 of the 13 spots , and most reliable in 7 of the 13 spots .
Kind of funny that the home of the iPhone does n't manage a decent reliability in any city besides Boston .
Only thing they really lose on is upload speeds .
Although , it is weird they did n't test in Los Angeles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking at the charts, Verizon wins pretty handily unless you're in specific cities looking for a phone.
They are the fastest downloader in 7 of the 13 spots, and most reliable in 7 of the 13 spots.
Kind of funny that the home of the iPhone doesn't manage a decent reliability in any city besides Boston.
Only thing they really lose on is upload speeds.
Although, it is weird they didn't test in Los Angeles.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28594197</id>
	<title>Sprint Detroit Test</title>
	<author>Greg\_J7</author>
	<datestamp>1246893720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Coincidentally, I was at my Sprint store West of  Detroit last week and tested the download speed of the laptop they had out. It was about 220 kbits/sec. It must have been bursty, because the delays I was experiencing I judged to be "no chance I'm going to pay for this."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Coincidentally , I was at my Sprint store West of Detroit last week and tested the download speed of the laptop they had out .
It was about 220 kbits/sec .
It must have been bursty , because the delays I was experiencing I judged to be " no chance I 'm going to pay for this .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coincidentally, I was at my Sprint store West of  Detroit last week and tested the download speed of the laptop they had out.
It was about 220 kbits/sec.
It must have been bursty, because the delays I was experiencing I judged to be "no chance I'm going to pay for this.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28589523</id>
	<title>Los Angeles, just switched to ATT, DISAPPOINTED!</title>
	<author>hofmny</author>
	<datestamp>1246798320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I live in Los Angeles, the South West Side (commonly referred to as The South Bay). I just ditched Verizon and switched to AT&amp;T because I wanted the iPhone 3GS (it's a phone and iPod and I no longer have to use a CD Walkman when running outside)!
<br> <br>
Well, I got home with my new iPhone 3GS, all excited, and decided to call Verizon to make sure they canceled my account when my number got ported over at the AT&amp;T store. Well, lets just say they should use my call for a commercial against AT&amp;T.... After getting in touch with an operator in under 1 minute (Verizon customer service is great), I attempted to ask a few simple questions <i>(I ported over my number, is my account canceled, is it pro-rated, how much do I owe, etc...)</i>, but instead I am aggravated and embarrassed. The signal quality was horrible. Every other sentence was garbled and I had to keep asking the Verizon Rep to repeat herself. When I talked, she couldn't understand me either. I was like, "I am calling on my AT&amp;T iPhone right now, I already switched, and I just want to make sure my account is canceled." I couldn't even make out what she was saying. Finally after repeating enough times I finally got the information I needed and said thank you and hung up.
<br> <br>
Seriously, it's that bad at my house, <b>and I live 4 blocks from the AT&amp;T store.</b> My Verizon service was great at home, but AT&amp;T keeps switching between the Edge Network and 3G. First I have full bars, then I have 2, then I have none. WTF!?
<br> <br>
I call up AT&amp;T after hours support, and I get a human, right away (+1 AT&amp;T, but their score has already lost 100 points today). He checks the tower near my house and says I should have full 3G signal and that it is very strong. He suggest I go back to the AT&amp;T store to exchange my phone. So I go back to the store right away, and they can't give me a new 3GS because they are out of stock, but suggests going to the Apple store to switch it. However, he suggests I try a new SIM card first. So he replaces my old one and gives me a new one. I go back home, hard boot my phone (something the tech suggested), and my reception was better, but still muffled in some situations. Sometimes my internet connection would just stop working and pages would time out. App Store, Facebook, all wouldn't work. Ughh.
<br> <br>
I call up the tech again, and he asks me how often I leave my house and how often I hard boot my phone. I tell him I leave my house all the time and I rarely turn off my phone completely and turn it back on. Why should I? Well he says that when I leave my house and come back, the tower information isn't updated so I need to hard boot my phone, at least ONCE a day, especially if I leave the house and come back. OK, really... REALLY!? The reception problem is still not as bad after getting the new SIM, but it is still an issue at my house. Driving around town seems to be OK.
<br> <br>
In the end the tech submitted a ticket for service issues at the tower near my house. I dunno who to blame this on, AT&amp;T, Apple, or both... Today i made a call and the reception was fine. Yesterday it was muffled. I am not sure WTF is going on anymore.
<br> <br>
And for the last aggravation... I have the iPhone docked near my MS wireless mouse adapter and the iPhone radio interferes with my wireless mouse. If I am on a call I can hardly even move my mouse! WOW!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in Los Angeles , the South West Side ( commonly referred to as The South Bay ) .
I just ditched Verizon and switched to AT&amp;T because I wanted the iPhone 3GS ( it 's a phone and iPod and I no longer have to use a CD Walkman when running outside ) !
Well , I got home with my new iPhone 3GS , all excited , and decided to call Verizon to make sure they canceled my account when my number got ported over at the AT&amp;T store .
Well , lets just say they should use my call for a commercial against AT&amp;T.... After getting in touch with an operator in under 1 minute ( Verizon customer service is great ) , I attempted to ask a few simple questions ( I ported over my number , is my account canceled , is it pro-rated , how much do I owe , etc... ) , but instead I am aggravated and embarrassed .
The signal quality was horrible .
Every other sentence was garbled and I had to keep asking the Verizon Rep to repeat herself .
When I talked , she could n't understand me either .
I was like , " I am calling on my AT&amp;T iPhone right now , I already switched , and I just want to make sure my account is canceled .
" I could n't even make out what she was saying .
Finally after repeating enough times I finally got the information I needed and said thank you and hung up .
Seriously , it 's that bad at my house , and I live 4 blocks from the AT&amp;T store .
My Verizon service was great at home , but AT&amp;T keeps switching between the Edge Network and 3G .
First I have full bars , then I have 2 , then I have none .
WTF ! ? I call up AT&amp;T after hours support , and I get a human , right away ( + 1 AT&amp;T , but their score has already lost 100 points today ) .
He checks the tower near my house and says I should have full 3G signal and that it is very strong .
He suggest I go back to the AT&amp;T store to exchange my phone .
So I go back to the store right away , and they ca n't give me a new 3GS because they are out of stock , but suggests going to the Apple store to switch it .
However , he suggests I try a new SIM card first .
So he replaces my old one and gives me a new one .
I go back home , hard boot my phone ( something the tech suggested ) , and my reception was better , but still muffled in some situations .
Sometimes my internet connection would just stop working and pages would time out .
App Store , Facebook , all would n't work .
Ughh . I call up the tech again , and he asks me how often I leave my house and how often I hard boot my phone .
I tell him I leave my house all the time and I rarely turn off my phone completely and turn it back on .
Why should I ?
Well he says that when I leave my house and come back , the tower information is n't updated so I need to hard boot my phone , at least ONCE a day , especially if I leave the house and come back .
OK , really.. .
REALLY ! ? The reception problem is still not as bad after getting the new SIM , but it is still an issue at my house .
Driving around town seems to be OK . In the end the tech submitted a ticket for service issues at the tower near my house .
I dunno who to blame this on , AT&amp;T , Apple , or both... Today i made a call and the reception was fine .
Yesterday it was muffled .
I am not sure WTF is going on anymore .
And for the last aggravation... I have the iPhone docked near my MS wireless mouse adapter and the iPhone radio interferes with my wireless mouse .
If I am on a call I can hardly even move my mouse !
WOW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in Los Angeles, the South West Side (commonly referred to as The South Bay).
I just ditched Verizon and switched to AT&amp;T because I wanted the iPhone 3GS (it's a phone and iPod and I no longer have to use a CD Walkman when running outside)!
Well, I got home with my new iPhone 3GS, all excited, and decided to call Verizon to make sure they canceled my account when my number got ported over at the AT&amp;T store.
Well, lets just say they should use my call for a commercial against AT&amp;T.... After getting in touch with an operator in under 1 minute (Verizon customer service is great), I attempted to ask a few simple questions (I ported over my number, is my account canceled, is it pro-rated, how much do I owe, etc...), but instead I am aggravated and embarrassed.
The signal quality was horrible.
Every other sentence was garbled and I had to keep asking the Verizon Rep to repeat herself.
When I talked, she couldn't understand me either.
I was like, "I am calling on my AT&amp;T iPhone right now, I already switched, and I just want to make sure my account is canceled.
" I couldn't even make out what she was saying.
Finally after repeating enough times I finally got the information I needed and said thank you and hung up.
Seriously, it's that bad at my house, and I live 4 blocks from the AT&amp;T store.
My Verizon service was great at home, but AT&amp;T keeps switching between the Edge Network and 3G.
First I have full bars, then I have 2, then I have none.
WTF!?
 
I call up AT&amp;T after hours support, and I get a human, right away (+1 AT&amp;T, but their score has already lost 100 points today).
He checks the tower near my house and says I should have full 3G signal and that it is very strong.
He suggest I go back to the AT&amp;T store to exchange my phone.
So I go back to the store right away, and they can't give me a new 3GS because they are out of stock, but suggests going to the Apple store to switch it.
However, he suggests I try a new SIM card first.
So he replaces my old one and gives me a new one.
I go back home, hard boot my phone (something the tech suggested), and my reception was better, but still muffled in some situations.
Sometimes my internet connection would just stop working and pages would time out.
App Store, Facebook, all wouldn't work.
Ughh.
 
I call up the tech again, and he asks me how often I leave my house and how often I hard boot my phone.
I tell him I leave my house all the time and I rarely turn off my phone completely and turn it back on.
Why should I?
Well he says that when I leave my house and come back, the tower information isn't updated so I need to hard boot my phone, at least ONCE a day, especially if I leave the house and come back.
OK, really...
REALLY!? The reception problem is still not as bad after getting the new SIM, but it is still an issue at my house.
Driving around town seems to be OK.
 
In the end the tech submitted a ticket for service issues at the tower near my house.
I dunno who to blame this on, AT&amp;T, Apple, or both... Today i made a call and the reception was fine.
Yesterday it was muffled.
I am not sure WTF is going on anymore.
And for the last aggravation... I have the iPhone docked near my MS wireless mouse adapter and the iPhone radio interferes with my wireless mouse.
If I am on a call I can hardly even move my mouse!
WOW!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586545</id>
	<title>Re:And then the commercials</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246811640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Comcast is another company whose commercials strike me as pure lies and misinformation based on a grain of truth</p></div><p>Well, the problem is they advertise "speed" and "availability", neither of which are really decent metrics. Speed is a crap metric because it's a scalar (math) quantity, and most often is measured by peak, rather than average, or worst-case. And "Availability" depends entirely on the service level agreement. If the power goes out, does that count toward availability? No, because "they" can't control it. Routine maintenance on their network? Nope. Lightning strike? Nah. So they can say almost whatever they want <i>and get away with it</i> because of some clever word-play. You'll be careful to note that in these endless commercials about high speed internet <i>from any company</i> they're careful to never put any number in it except the phone number to call. So it's not so much that they're lying -- it's really more that they're speaking sweet nothings, which is perfectly legal (and disingenuous).</p><p>Us geeks know that network performance isn't a scalar (math) quantity. Bigger numbers don't mean shit. It's the matrix of bandwidth (in bytes), latency (in milliseconds), packet loss (a percentage), all averaged over a long enough time-frame (hour, day, week, month, or billing cycle) to account for all systemic variables (bandwidth caps, network load averages, etc) is what matters.</p><p>I suppose you could derive from this information a weighted index, but it would still be largely useless to the average consumer. The problem is when you get down to brass tacks, different users have different needs. A heavy game player's internet needs will likely be low bandwidth, but low latency. A few milliseconds of extra time, or a few lost packets, will make that user's experience very poor. Someone who has an internet-TV has a large need for bandwidth, but latency is not an issue (even if the transfer is delayed by <i>hours</i> it might not matter). And then there's the little old grandma who doesn't do anything but check her e-mail and read CNN. If it wasn't for latency problems, she could be using a modem and never know the difference between either. Especially if she installed Vista -- god, network latency is nothing when it takes 8 seconds to render the downloaded page.</p><p>Comcast delivers an acceptable experience to a certain class of internet users and has crafted their service accordingly. The problem is that this service isn't tiered or can be adapted to serve several different markets. There is only one service, one market, and if you don't like it--you may not have any other options. Comcast is constrained by a need to maximize profitability, minimize costs, and is using an infrastructure which they are unwilling (or unable) to modify to deliver an acceptable experience to a larger user-base. There's no competition in most of its markets, and hence no reason to invest in doing so. The lack of competition ensures that Comcast's prices will continue to inflate while the number of customers who receive an acceptable experience will fall.</p><p>The bandwidth caps being imposed now are not the (direct) result of TV-over-internet competing with its internet offering, and instead the logical result of a lack of competition with its internet service. Any business in the same position and market(s) as Comcast would be doing the exact same thing, because Comcast doesn't exist to bring internet to the masses, so we can all celebrate the information age and live in peace, tranquility, and gigabytes of free porn. They exist to make money for their shareholders.</p><p>And the reason why service is shit in so many parts of this country isn't because of Evil BigCorp and their profiteering ways, but rather;</p><p>a) Infrastructure costs are a very high barrier to entry into the market. The United States is a big place with a low population density (taken as a whole) compared to other geographical regions like, say, Japan. The cost per customer is higher because there's a lot more wire and equipment outlay costs.</p><p>b) Municipalities create a byzantine and very expensive approval process that takes a very, very long time to get through. Time is money in business, and as much as the equipment costs -- this administrative overhead costs a helluva lot more. This means you'd better have a LOT of money to get into, or expand, your market. Comcast has already laid out all of these funds -- and it <i>had</i> to deliver crappy service to pay for the tariffs imposed by an exceptionally long line of government agents who all wanted their say and their pound of flesh.</p><p>c) And last, frankly, who gives a crap about infrastructure in this country anyway. Don't we have bigger problems, like unemployment, roads that are falling apart, bridges falling down, a health care crisis brought on by the poor spending habits and planning <i>of an entire generation</i>, and paying how much to bomb how many countries with unpronouncable names again? Please -- internet is a low priority for our government, and it's constituent population.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Comcast is another company whose commercials strike me as pure lies and misinformation based on a grain of truthWell , the problem is they advertise " speed " and " availability " , neither of which are really decent metrics .
Speed is a crap metric because it 's a scalar ( math ) quantity , and most often is measured by peak , rather than average , or worst-case .
And " Availability " depends entirely on the service level agreement .
If the power goes out , does that count toward availability ?
No , because " they " ca n't control it .
Routine maintenance on their network ?
Nope. Lightning strike ?
Nah. So they can say almost whatever they want and get away with it because of some clever word-play .
You 'll be careful to note that in these endless commercials about high speed internet from any company they 're careful to never put any number in it except the phone number to call .
So it 's not so much that they 're lying -- it 's really more that they 're speaking sweet nothings , which is perfectly legal ( and disingenuous ) .Us geeks know that network performance is n't a scalar ( math ) quantity .
Bigger numbers do n't mean shit .
It 's the matrix of bandwidth ( in bytes ) , latency ( in milliseconds ) , packet loss ( a percentage ) , all averaged over a long enough time-frame ( hour , day , week , month , or billing cycle ) to account for all systemic variables ( bandwidth caps , network load averages , etc ) is what matters.I suppose you could derive from this information a weighted index , but it would still be largely useless to the average consumer .
The problem is when you get down to brass tacks , different users have different needs .
A heavy game player 's internet needs will likely be low bandwidth , but low latency .
A few milliseconds of extra time , or a few lost packets , will make that user 's experience very poor .
Someone who has an internet-TV has a large need for bandwidth , but latency is not an issue ( even if the transfer is delayed by hours it might not matter ) .
And then there 's the little old grandma who does n't do anything but check her e-mail and read CNN .
If it was n't for latency problems , she could be using a modem and never know the difference between either .
Especially if she installed Vista -- god , network latency is nothing when it takes 8 seconds to render the downloaded page.Comcast delivers an acceptable experience to a certain class of internet users and has crafted their service accordingly .
The problem is that this service is n't tiered or can be adapted to serve several different markets .
There is only one service , one market , and if you do n't like it--you may not have any other options .
Comcast is constrained by a need to maximize profitability , minimize costs , and is using an infrastructure which they are unwilling ( or unable ) to modify to deliver an acceptable experience to a larger user-base .
There 's no competition in most of its markets , and hence no reason to invest in doing so .
The lack of competition ensures that Comcast 's prices will continue to inflate while the number of customers who receive an acceptable experience will fall.The bandwidth caps being imposed now are not the ( direct ) result of TV-over-internet competing with its internet offering , and instead the logical result of a lack of competition with its internet service .
Any business in the same position and market ( s ) as Comcast would be doing the exact same thing , because Comcast does n't exist to bring internet to the masses , so we can all celebrate the information age and live in peace , tranquility , and gigabytes of free porn .
They exist to make money for their shareholders.And the reason why service is shit in so many parts of this country is n't because of Evil BigCorp and their profiteering ways , but rather ; a ) Infrastructure costs are a very high barrier to entry into the market .
The United States is a big place with a low population density ( taken as a whole ) compared to other geographical regions like , say , Japan .
The cost per customer is higher because there 's a lot more wire and equipment outlay costs.b ) Municipalities create a byzantine and very expensive approval process that takes a very , very long time to get through .
Time is money in business , and as much as the equipment costs -- this administrative overhead costs a helluva lot more .
This means you 'd better have a LOT of money to get into , or expand , your market .
Comcast has already laid out all of these funds -- and it had to deliver crappy service to pay for the tariffs imposed by an exceptionally long line of government agents who all wanted their say and their pound of flesh.c ) And last , frankly , who gives a crap about infrastructure in this country anyway .
Do n't we have bigger problems , like unemployment , roads that are falling apart , bridges falling down , a health care crisis brought on by the poor spending habits and planning of an entire generation , and paying how much to bomb how many countries with unpronouncable names again ?
Please -- internet is a low priority for our government , and it 's constituent population .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Comcast is another company whose commercials strike me as pure lies and misinformation based on a grain of truthWell, the problem is they advertise "speed" and "availability", neither of which are really decent metrics.
Speed is a crap metric because it's a scalar (math) quantity, and most often is measured by peak, rather than average, or worst-case.
And "Availability" depends entirely on the service level agreement.
If the power goes out, does that count toward availability?
No, because "they" can't control it.
Routine maintenance on their network?
Nope. Lightning strike?
Nah. So they can say almost whatever they want and get away with it because of some clever word-play.
You'll be careful to note that in these endless commercials about high speed internet from any company they're careful to never put any number in it except the phone number to call.
So it's not so much that they're lying -- it's really more that they're speaking sweet nothings, which is perfectly legal (and disingenuous).Us geeks know that network performance isn't a scalar (math) quantity.
Bigger numbers don't mean shit.
It's the matrix of bandwidth (in bytes), latency (in milliseconds), packet loss (a percentage), all averaged over a long enough time-frame (hour, day, week, month, or billing cycle) to account for all systemic variables (bandwidth caps, network load averages, etc) is what matters.I suppose you could derive from this information a weighted index, but it would still be largely useless to the average consumer.
The problem is when you get down to brass tacks, different users have different needs.
A heavy game player's internet needs will likely be low bandwidth, but low latency.
A few milliseconds of extra time, or a few lost packets, will make that user's experience very poor.
Someone who has an internet-TV has a large need for bandwidth, but latency is not an issue (even if the transfer is delayed by hours it might not matter).
And then there's the little old grandma who doesn't do anything but check her e-mail and read CNN.
If it wasn't for latency problems, she could be using a modem and never know the difference between either.
Especially if she installed Vista -- god, network latency is nothing when it takes 8 seconds to render the downloaded page.Comcast delivers an acceptable experience to a certain class of internet users and has crafted their service accordingly.
The problem is that this service isn't tiered or can be adapted to serve several different markets.
There is only one service, one market, and if you don't like it--you may not have any other options.
Comcast is constrained by a need to maximize profitability, minimize costs, and is using an infrastructure which they are unwilling (or unable) to modify to deliver an acceptable experience to a larger user-base.
There's no competition in most of its markets, and hence no reason to invest in doing so.
The lack of competition ensures that Comcast's prices will continue to inflate while the number of customers who receive an acceptable experience will fall.The bandwidth caps being imposed now are not the (direct) result of TV-over-internet competing with its internet offering, and instead the logical result of a lack of competition with its internet service.
Any business in the same position and market(s) as Comcast would be doing the exact same thing, because Comcast doesn't exist to bring internet to the masses, so we can all celebrate the information age and live in peace, tranquility, and gigabytes of free porn.
They exist to make money for their shareholders.And the reason why service is shit in so many parts of this country isn't because of Evil BigCorp and their profiteering ways, but rather;a) Infrastructure costs are a very high barrier to entry into the market.
The United States is a big place with a low population density (taken as a whole) compared to other geographical regions like, say, Japan.
The cost per customer is higher because there's a lot more wire and equipment outlay costs.b) Municipalities create a byzantine and very expensive approval process that takes a very, very long time to get through.
Time is money in business, and as much as the equipment costs -- this administrative overhead costs a helluva lot more.
This means you'd better have a LOT of money to get into, or expand, your market.
Comcast has already laid out all of these funds -- and it had to deliver crappy service to pay for the tariffs imposed by an exceptionally long line of government agents who all wanted their say and their pound of flesh.c) And last, frankly, who gives a crap about infrastructure in this country anyway.
Don't we have bigger problems, like unemployment, roads that are falling apart, bridges falling down, a health care crisis brought on by the poor spending habits and planning of an entire generation, and paying how much to bomb how many countries with unpronouncable names again?
Please -- internet is a low priority for our government, and it's constituent population.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586261</id>
	<title>"it's the spaces in between"</title>
	<author>zogger</author>
	<datestamp>1246807740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/07/04/150231" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">That's exactly what this new network is for</a> [slashdot.org], where you have good normal cell or wifi coverage, it will use that, outside that coverage, it will be using the satellite.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's exactly what this new network is for [ slashdot.org ] , where you have good normal cell or wifi coverage , it will use that , outside that coverage , it will be using the satellite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's exactly what this new network is for [slashdot.org], where you have good normal cell or wifi coverage, it will use that, outside that coverage, it will be using the satellite.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586765</id>
	<title>AT&amp;T</title>
	<author>paimin</author>
	<datestamp>1246814460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, I'm posting this from an AT&amp;T 3G connection, and I can say it's absolutely relia[[&amp;2$188:..NO CARRIER</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I 'm posting this from an AT&amp;T 3G connection , and I can say it 's absolutely relia [ [ &amp;2 $ 188 : ..NO CARRIER</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I'm posting this from an AT&amp;T 3G connection, and I can say it's absolutely relia[[&amp;2$188:..NO CARRIER</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28592983</id>
	<title>read as: Segweay2iPhone Tethering (AT&amp;T unread</title>
	<author>DrStoooopid</author>
	<datestamp>1246885620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Though it does put into perspective why AT&amp;T wants to charge for tethering. They're not ready for people even with standard tethering, just think if you get all those iPhones. I hear "Well my tethering works..." yeah for YOU..not many people are smart enough to know how to update their carrier files so they can.</p><p>I also discovered that one of the main reasons AT&amp;T disabled MMS...you can also send<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.MOV files via MMS (ala Verizon style)..and apparently that's what their worried about.</p><p>Still...way to release a product that's not complete, Micro$oft...I mean AT&amp;T...I mean Apple...AT&amp;T has the WORST customer service (I've been on the phone with them everyday for the last week), and their support staff is lackluster at best, some of them knowledgeable (read as 1 or 2), so when tethering and MMS do launch it's going to be a "let's credit your account" extravaganza or "haha you can't get though, because the call center is as bogged down as your connection".</p><p>Next thing you know, car manufacturers will be selling cars missing important features. "OH seatbelts? We were going to put those in 2 years from now, but you can still use it in the meantime."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Though it does put into perspective why AT&amp;T wants to charge for tethering .
They 're not ready for people even with standard tethering , just think if you get all those iPhones .
I hear " Well my tethering works... " yeah for YOU..not many people are smart enough to know how to update their carrier files so they can.I also discovered that one of the main reasons AT&amp;T disabled MMS...you can also send .MOV files via MMS ( ala Verizon style ) ..and apparently that 's what their worried about.Still...way to release a product that 's not complete , Micro $ oft...I mean AT&amp;T...I mean Apple...AT&amp;T has the WORST customer service ( I 've been on the phone with them everyday for the last week ) , and their support staff is lackluster at best , some of them knowledgeable ( read as 1 or 2 ) , so when tethering and MMS do launch it 's going to be a " let 's credit your account " extravaganza or " haha you ca n't get though , because the call center is as bogged down as your connection " .Next thing you know , car manufacturers will be selling cars missing important features .
" OH seatbelts ?
We were going to put those in 2 years from now , but you can still use it in the meantime .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Though it does put into perspective why AT&amp;T wants to charge for tethering.
They're not ready for people even with standard tethering, just think if you get all those iPhones.
I hear "Well my tethering works..." yeah for YOU..not many people are smart enough to know how to update their carrier files so they can.I also discovered that one of the main reasons AT&amp;T disabled MMS...you can also send .MOV files via MMS (ala Verizon style)..and apparently that's what their worried about.Still...way to release a product that's not complete, Micro$oft...I mean AT&amp;T...I mean Apple...AT&amp;T has the WORST customer service (I've been on the phone with them everyday for the last week), and their support staff is lackluster at best, some of them knowledgeable (read as 1 or 2), so when tethering and MMS do launch it's going to be a "let's credit your account" extravaganza or "haha you can't get though, because the call center is as bogged down as your connection".Next thing you know, car manufacturers will be selling cars missing important features.
"OH seatbelts?
We were going to put those in 2 years from now, but you can still use it in the meantime.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28597171</id>
	<title>Re:It's a good thing they didn't test T-Mobile's 3</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246907100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I also have a good experience with T-Mobile (on G1 phone), in Washington DC metro area. Previously have been with Verizon.</p><p>Me and a friend of mine compared 3G data coverage from T-Mobile and Verizon by downloading large videos and the speeds were indistinguishable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I also have a good experience with T-Mobile ( on G1 phone ) , in Washington DC metro area .
Previously have been with Verizon.Me and a friend of mine compared 3G data coverage from T-Mobile and Verizon by downloading large videos and the speeds were indistinguishable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also have a good experience with T-Mobile (on G1 phone), in Washington DC metro area.
Previously have been with Verizon.Me and a friend of mine compared 3G data coverage from T-Mobile and Verizon by downloading large videos and the speeds were indistinguishable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586265</id>
	<title>Re:And then the commercials</title>
	<author>Luscious868</author>
	<datestamp>1246807800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Comcast is another company whose commercials strike me as pure lies and misinformation based on a grain of truth</p></div></blockquote><p>As a general rule of thumb never trust claims made in an advertisement. One of the great things about the Internet is that there are a plethora of sites out there that you can turn to get a better idea of how products and services really work. I rarely buy an expensive product or service these days without checking it out first.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Comcast is another company whose commercials strike me as pure lies and misinformation based on a grain of truthAs a general rule of thumb never trust claims made in an advertisement .
One of the great things about the Internet is that there are a plethora of sites out there that you can turn to get a better idea of how products and services really work .
I rarely buy an expensive product or service these days without checking it out first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Comcast is another company whose commercials strike me as pure lies and misinformation based on a grain of truthAs a general rule of thumb never trust claims made in an advertisement.
One of the great things about the Internet is that there are a plethora of sites out there that you can turn to get a better idea of how products and services really work.
I rarely buy an expensive product or service these days without checking it out first.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28587855</id>
	<title>Reliability more important than speed</title>
	<author>PhrackCreak</author>
	<datestamp>1246825200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have AT&amp;T. I live in San Francisco. AT&amp;T regularly drops calls. I cannot make calls from home without dropping them a minute or two into the conversation. I could not make calls from work until they installed an expensive repeater. Notice that AT&amp;T lost EVERY SINGLE reliability comparison.</p><p>For my needs, that makes them the worst provider.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have AT&amp;T .
I live in San Francisco .
AT&amp;T regularly drops calls .
I can not make calls from home without dropping them a minute or two into the conversation .
I could not make calls from work until they installed an expensive repeater .
Notice that AT&amp;T lost EVERY SINGLE reliability comparison.For my needs , that makes them the worst provider .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have AT&amp;T.
I live in San Francisco.
AT&amp;T regularly drops calls.
I cannot make calls from home without dropping them a minute or two into the conversation.
I could not make calls from work until they installed an expensive repeater.
Notice that AT&amp;T lost EVERY SINGLE reliability comparison.For my needs, that makes them the worst provider.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586177</id>
	<title>It's not the cities, it's the spaces in between</title>
	<author>BadAnalogyGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1246806420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In a mobile culture like America's, we live a significant portion of our lives on the road. On holidays like today, we aren't, like 19th century Europeans, stuck in our hovels waiting for Ebenezer Scrooge to hand deliver a Christmas duck. Rather, we get out and drive, drive, drive all over this great, goddamned country.</p><p>So there's only so far 3G networks can take us if the coverage is only within city limits. When our cars are hooked up to cellular networks for data services, what good is it to have exceptional coverage in town when you're 100 miles from the next town? Empty spaces and big skies just prove how big this place really is, and it's all about living and moving and getting out there and getting to the next place that is what it's all about, man.</p><p>Get me some coverage in Yosemite. Death Valley. Appalachia. Crater Lake. Yellowstone. Shasta. Mt. McKinley. Grand Canyon. From Blaine, WA to Miami, FL. San Diego, CA to Eastport, ME. Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In a mobile culture like America 's , we live a significant portion of our lives on the road .
On holidays like today , we are n't , like 19th century Europeans , stuck in our hovels waiting for Ebenezer Scrooge to hand deliver a Christmas duck .
Rather , we get out and drive , drive , drive all over this great , goddamned country.So there 's only so far 3G networks can take us if the coverage is only within city limits .
When our cars are hooked up to cellular networks for data services , what good is it to have exceptional coverage in town when you 're 100 miles from the next town ?
Empty spaces and big skies just prove how big this place really is , and it 's all about living and moving and getting out there and getting to the next place that is what it 's all about , man.Get me some coverage in Yosemite .
Death Valley .
Appalachia. Crater Lake .
Yellowstone. Shasta .
Mt. McKinley .
Grand Canyon .
From Blaine , WA to Miami , FL .
San Diego , CA to Eastport , ME .
Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a mobile culture like America's, we live a significant portion of our lives on the road.
On holidays like today, we aren't, like 19th century Europeans, stuck in our hovels waiting for Ebenezer Scrooge to hand deliver a Christmas duck.
Rather, we get out and drive, drive, drive all over this great, goddamned country.So there's only so far 3G networks can take us if the coverage is only within city limits.
When our cars are hooked up to cellular networks for data services, what good is it to have exceptional coverage in town when you're 100 miles from the next town?
Empty spaces and big skies just prove how big this place really is, and it's all about living and moving and getting out there and getting to the next place that is what it's all about, man.Get me some coverage in Yosemite.
Death Valley.
Appalachia. Crater Lake.
Yellowstone. Shasta.
Mt. McKinley.
Grand Canyon.
From Blaine, WA to Miami, FL.
San Diego, CA to Eastport, ME.
Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28589549</id>
	<title>AT&amp;T Reception in LA...</title>
	<author>hofmny</author>
	<datestamp>1246798560000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>AT&amp;T reception in Los Angeles is like the fucking Bermuda Triangle</htmltext>
<tokenext>AT&amp;T reception in Los Angeles is like the fucking Bermuda Triangle</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AT&amp;T reception in Los Angeles is like the fucking Bermuda Triangle</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586153</id>
	<title>Wait, I'm confused...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246806120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Wasn't the rest of the world supposed to love us if we voted for the Affirmative Action candidate?</p><p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE56302A20090705?sp=true" title="reuters.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE56302A20090705?sp=true</a> [reuters.com]</p><p><a href="http://news.scotsman.com/world/Obama-assured-of-a-chilly.5429112.jp" title="scotsman.com" rel="nofollow">http://news.scotsman.com/world/Obama-assured-of-a-chilly.5429112.jp</a> [scotsman.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=aR7yfqUwTb4M" title="bloomberg.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=aR7yfqUwTb4M</a> [bloomberg.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't the rest of the world supposed to love us if we voted for the Affirmative Action candidate ? http : //www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE56302A20090705 ? sp = true [ reuters.com ] http : //news.scotsman.com/world/Obama-assured-of-a-chilly.5429112.jp [ scotsman.com ] http : //www.bloomberg.com/apps/news ? pid = 20601087&amp;sid = aR7yfqUwTb4M [ bloomberg.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't the rest of the world supposed to love us if we voted for the Affirmative Action candidate?http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE56302A20090705?sp=true [reuters.com]http://news.scotsman.com/world/Obama-assured-of-a-chilly.5429112.jp [scotsman.com]http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=aR7yfqUwTb4M [bloomberg.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586793</id>
	<title>Re:Verizon wins</title>
	<author>Solandri</author>
	<datestamp>1246814820000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I tossed the numbers into a spreadsheet and figured out the median stats.  Kinda sucks that each carrier wins one category:

Carrier: download / upload / reliabiliy
Verizon: 909 / 415 / 87\%
Sprint: 794 / 391 / 90\%
AT&amp;T: 745 / 660 / 82\%

I started weighting it by population of the metro area, but they're missing several major population areas and their samples probably represent a few towers, not the entire metro area.  So I realized it would be of dubious value.  But it does give a boost to Verizon (due to their great NYC result), while AT&amp;T plummets (again, due to their poor NYC result).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I tossed the numbers into a spreadsheet and figured out the median stats .
Kinda sucks that each carrier wins one category : Carrier : download / upload / reliabiliy Verizon : 909 / 415 / 87 \ % Sprint : 794 / 391 / 90 \ % AT&amp;T : 745 / 660 / 82 \ % I started weighting it by population of the metro area , but they 're missing several major population areas and their samples probably represent a few towers , not the entire metro area .
So I realized it would be of dubious value .
But it does give a boost to Verizon ( due to their great NYC result ) , while AT&amp;T plummets ( again , due to their poor NYC result ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tossed the numbers into a spreadsheet and figured out the median stats.
Kinda sucks that each carrier wins one category:

Carrier: download / upload / reliabiliy
Verizon: 909 / 415 / 87\%
Sprint: 794 / 391 / 90\%
AT&amp;T: 745 / 660 / 82\%

I started weighting it by population of the metro area, but they're missing several major population areas and their samples probably represent a few towers, not the entire metro area.
So I realized it would be of dubious value.
But it does give a boost to Verizon (due to their great NYC result), while AT&amp;T plummets (again, due to their poor NYC result).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586507</id>
	<title>The test seems to be bogus</title>
	<author>rwwyatt</author>
	<datestamp>1246811100000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>
Disclaimer:  I work for a Data Card Manufacturer
</p><p>
Without the actual procedure for the tests, it is difficult to say if PCWorld'ss are any good.  I am not familiar with the software used as no major industry provider uses it.  The standard tool in the industry is Windcatcher
</p><p>
It really depends on the way the test is run.  The problem actually relates to the TcpWindowSize as it should be increased to at least 128Kb for HSPA based networks and for CDMA as well.
</p><p>
Another major issue is that Data Cards don't inherently support streaming.  Streaming is often used as a secondary PDP context and this will have a major negative effect.  Were they in a  handover region or not?  On HSPA, every other cell is an interferer  so throughput should be measured with a Single Carrier in the active set.  It is still possible to be in a handover zone while in a parked car.
</p><p>
Did they use the carrier supplied good coverage locations?  Randomly may not cross the panaroma of RSSI.
</p><p>
  As well, the latest modem from Novatel Wireless is the USB760. I also believe the latest Sierra Wireless card is the compass something or other.  Did they use a Y Cable?  Did they use an external antenna?  What model of PC did they use as TRP/TIS makes a huge difference in low coverage areas?
</p><p>
  Without more data,  I would still say there isn't sufficient evidence to form any conclusions from their article.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Disclaimer : I work for a Data Card Manufacturer Without the actual procedure for the tests , it is difficult to say if PCWorld'ss are any good .
I am not familiar with the software used as no major industry provider uses it .
The standard tool in the industry is Windcatcher It really depends on the way the test is run .
The problem actually relates to the TcpWindowSize as it should be increased to at least 128Kb for HSPA based networks and for CDMA as well .
Another major issue is that Data Cards do n't inherently support streaming .
Streaming is often used as a secondary PDP context and this will have a major negative effect .
Were they in a handover region or not ?
On HSPA , every other cell is an interferer so throughput should be measured with a Single Carrier in the active set .
It is still possible to be in a handover zone while in a parked car .
Did they use the carrier supplied good coverage locations ?
Randomly may not cross the panaroma of RSSI .
As well , the latest modem from Novatel Wireless is the USB760 .
I also believe the latest Sierra Wireless card is the compass something or other .
Did they use a Y Cable ?
Did they use an external antenna ?
What model of PC did they use as TRP/T IS makes a huge difference in low coverage areas ?
Without more data , I would still say there is n't sufficient evidence to form any conclusions from their article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Disclaimer:  I work for a Data Card Manufacturer

Without the actual procedure for the tests, it is difficult to say if PCWorld'ss are any good.
I am not familiar with the software used as no major industry provider uses it.
The standard tool in the industry is Windcatcher

It really depends on the way the test is run.
The problem actually relates to the TcpWindowSize as it should be increased to at least 128Kb for HSPA based networks and for CDMA as well.
Another major issue is that Data Cards don't inherently support streaming.
Streaming is often used as a secondary PDP context and this will have a major negative effect.
Were they in a  handover region or not?
On HSPA, every other cell is an interferer  so throughput should be measured with a Single Carrier in the active set.
It is still possible to be in a handover zone while in a parked car.
Did they use the carrier supplied good coverage locations?
Randomly may not cross the panaroma of RSSI.
As well, the latest modem from Novatel Wireless is the USB760.
I also believe the latest Sierra Wireless card is the compass something or other.
Did they use a Y Cable?
Did they use an external antenna?
What model of PC did they use as TRP/TIS makes a huge difference in low coverage areas?
Without more data,  I would still say there isn't sufficient evidence to form any conclusions from their article.
</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28588155</id>
	<title>Re:It's a good thing they didn't test T-Mobile's 3</title>
	<author>Danny Rathjens</author>
	<datestamp>1246784400000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Same thing in Fort Lauderdale despite the T-mobile coverage map showing solid green for 3G everywhere it's always bouncing between 3G, Edge, off - even within my bedroom.  I only kept it because I am moving away in a few weeks and hoping for better results in New York.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Same thing in Fort Lauderdale despite the T-mobile coverage map showing solid green for 3G everywhere it 's always bouncing between 3G , Edge , off - even within my bedroom .
I only kept it because I am moving away in a few weeks and hoping for better results in New York .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same thing in Fort Lauderdale despite the T-mobile coverage map showing solid green for 3G everywhere it's always bouncing between 3G, Edge, off - even within my bedroom.
I only kept it because I am moving away in a few weeks and hoping for better results in New York.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586083</id>
	<title>Help! My Computer is on fire!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246805040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.</p><p>What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:</p><ul><li> <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Linus Torvalds</a> [microsoft.com] is an anagram of <b>slit anus or VD 'L,'</b> clearly referring to himself by the first initial.</li><li> <a href="http://www.geocities.com/stallmanus/" title="geocities.com" rel="nofollow">Richard M. Stallman</a> [geocities.com], spokespervert for the <b>G</b>aysex's <b>N</b>ot <b>U</b>nusual 'movement' is an anagram of <b>mans cram thrill ad.</b> </li><li> <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Alan Cox</a> [microsoft.com] is <i>barely</i> an anagram of <b>anal cox</b> which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.</li></ul><p>I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] propaganda diatribe <i>The Cathedral and the Bizarre,</i> is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. <i>Update:</i> Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for <b>secondary rim</b> and <b>cord in my arse.</b> It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.</p><p> <i>Update the Second:</i> It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Fetchmail</a> [microsoft.com], which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'</p><p>As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was <a href="http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/05/26/free\_love/index.html" title="salon.com" rel="nofollow">actually quoted</a> [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.</p><p>And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming <a href="http://www.comp-u-geek.net/" title="comp-u-geek.net" rel="nofollow">homo</a> [comp-u-geek.net] <a href="http://vagina.rotten.com/fecaljapan/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">slut</a> [rotten.com]!</p><p>Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] perversion of <a href="http://slashdot.org/features/99/07/22/173256.shtml" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">corrupting the innocence of young children</a> [slashdot.org]. To quote from the article linked:</p><p>'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'</p><p>Is this why you were touching your <a href="http://smoke.rotten.com/bird/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">penis</a> [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?</p><p>We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' <i>Is there any more doubt?</i> For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.</p><p>Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.</p><p>In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The <a href="http://www.redhat.com/" title="redhat.com" rel="nofollow">Slackware</a> [redhat.com] distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of <b>claw arse</b>, a reference to the <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] practise of anal fisting. The <a href="http://www.slackware.com/" title="slackware.com" rel="nofollow">Mandrake</a> [slackware.com] product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for <b>dark amen</b> and <b>ram naked,</b> which is what they do.</p><p>Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexuals</a> [goatse.fr] preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is <a href="http://www.mandrake.com/" title="mandrake.com" rel="nofollow">Debian,</a> [mandrake.com] an anagram of <b>in a bed,</b> which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male <a href="http://smoke.rotten.com/bird/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">penis</a> [rotten.com], glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.</p><p>And <a href="http://www.debian.org/" title="debian.org" rel="nofollow">Red Hat</a> [debian.org] is secret <a href="http://www.comp-u-geek.net/" title="comp-u-geek.net" rel="nofollow">homo</a> [comp-u-geek.net] slang for the tip of a <a href="http://smoke.rotten.com/bird/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">penis</a> [rotten.com] that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.</p><p>The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to <a href="http://www.comp-u-geek.net/" title="comp-u-geek.net" rel="nofollow">mount each other</a> [comp-u-geek.net] automatically.</p><p>The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously<tt>/anus</tt>, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no<tt>/opt</tt> mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.</p><p>More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love <tt>`man`</tt>, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out <tt>`man`</tt>. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.</p><p>Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit <i>gayness.</i> For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual <a href="http://www.amiga.com/" title="amiga.com" rel="nofollow">Windows</a> [amiga.com] users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: <i>Faggot Anal Quest:</i> the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!</p><p>Even the title '<a href="http://www.geekizoid.com/" title="geekizoid.com" rel="nofollow">Slashdot</a> [geekizoid.com]' originally referred to a <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] practice. <a href="http://www.kuro5hin.org/" title="kuro5hin.org" rel="nofollow">Slashdot</a> [kuro5hin.org] of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexuals</a> [goatse.fr] who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, <a href="http://www.eff.org/" title="eff.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.eff.org/</a> [eff.org].</p><p>The editors of <a href="http://www.slashduh.org/" title="slashduh.org" rel="nofollow">Slashdot</a> [slashduh.org] also have <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with <a href="http://pboy.com/shteatrfrk/images01/" title="pboy.com" rel="nofollow">excrement</a> [pboy.com]. (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of <a href="http://smoke.rotten.com/bird/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">penis</a> [rotten.com] discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, <a href="http://notslashdot.org/" title="notslashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Slashdot</a> [notslashdot.org] runs on <i>Apache!</i> </p><p>The <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/iis/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Apache</a> [microsoft.com] server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.</p><p>And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.</p><p>To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And <a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">BeOS</a> [apple.com] is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'</p><p> <b>FEEDBACK</b> </p><blockquote><div><p> <i>What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to <i>warn</i> them of the impending <a href="http://www.comp-u-geek.net/" title="comp-u-geek.net" rel="nofollow">homo</a> [comp-u-geek.net]-calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you.</i> -- <a href="http://slashdot.org/users.pl?nick=mighty\%20jebus" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">mighty jebus</a> [slashdot.org], Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's <a href="http://www.happy.bodysnatchers.co.uk/deadcunt/" title="bodysnatchers.co.uk" rel="nofollow">vagina</a> [bodysnatchers.co.uk] to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the <a href="http://www.hitler.org/" title="hitler.org" rel="nofollow">unknown liberator</a> [hitler.org].</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of <i>Baywatch</i> until the very mention of <a href="http://fotm.rotten.com/fotm/vertical.html" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">Pamela Anderson</a> [rotten.com] causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual <a href="http://www.zillabunny.com/express/" title="zillabunny.com" rel="nofollow">jism</a> [zillabunny.com].</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?)</i> -- <a href="http://slashdot.org/users.pl?nick=double\_h" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">double\_h</a> [slashdot.org], Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the <a href="http://www.xbox.com/" title="xbox.com" rel="nofollow">PS2</a> [xbox.com] sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, <a href="http://www.linux.com/" title="linux.com" rel="nofollow">NT</a> [linux.com] is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a <i>sin</i> in the eyes of the <a href="http://www.atheism.org/" title="atheism.org" rel="nofollow">Catholic church</a> [atheism.org]. Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.</p><p>Secondly, this message is for <i>every</i> man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by <i> <a href="http://www.stileproject.com/" title="stileproject.com" rel="nofollow">a Black Man</a> [stileproject.com] </i>. Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them.</i> -- <a href="http://slashdot.org/users.pl?nick=phee" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">phee</a> [slashdot.org], Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that <a href="http://www.python.org/" title="python.org" rel="nofollow">Perl</a> [python.org] (standing for <b>P</b>ansies <b>E</b>ntering <b>R</b>ectums <b>L</b>ocally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'</p><p>One scary thing about <a href="http://java.sun.com/" title="sun.com" rel="nofollow">Perl</a> [sun.com] is that it contains hidden <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] messages. Take the following code: <tt>LWP::Simple</tt> -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: <i>There are two colons next to each other!</i> As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'</p><p>And <a href="http://www.perl.org/" title="perl.org" rel="nofollow">PHP</a> [perl.org] stands for <b>P</b>erverted <b>H</b>omosexual <b>P</b>enetration. Didn't you know?</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa.</i> -- <a href="http://slashdot.org/users.pl?nick=Eimernase" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Eimernase</a> [slashdot.org], Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I <i>do</i> know that <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p> <i>*sniff*</i> That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the <a href="http://www.atheism.org/" title="atheism.org" rel="nofollow">Good Lord</a> [atheism.org]'s work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.</p><p>However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)</p><p>In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (<b>L</b>ove of <b>A</b>nal <b>N</b>aughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (<i>i.e.,</i> kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality!</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in <a href="http://slashdot.org/metamod.pl" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Metamoderation</a> [slashdot.org]. Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???</p><p>If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived <i>forever!</i> Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>I am compelled to document the foulness and <a href="http://www.catholic.net/" title="catholic.net" rel="nofollow">carnal depravity</a> [catholic.net] that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?!</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>I sincerely hope you're <a href="http://www.geocities.com/signal\_sig/petri.html" title="geocities.com" rel="nofollow">Natalie Portman</a> [geocities.com].</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>What the <i>fuck?</i> </p><blockquote><div><p> <i>I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing <a href="http://www.comp-u-geek.net/" title="comp-u-geek.net" rel="nofollow">homos</a> [comp-u-geek.net] tend to be full of. Thank you again.</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Well bugger me!</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you</i> -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot</p></div></blockquote><p>Fuck <i>right</i> off!</p><p>IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not <a href="http://www.linux.org/" title="linux.org" rel="nofollow">HURD</a> [linux.org], which is an acronym for '<b>H</b>uge <b>U</b>nclean <b>R</b>ectal <b>D</b>ilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the <a href="http://www.icopyright.com/" title="icopyright.com" rel="nofollow">Public Domain</a> [icopyright.com]. You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the <a href="http://www.publicsource.apple.com/apsl/" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">GPL</a> [apple.com] (<b>G</b>ay <b>P</b>enetration <b>L</b>icense) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest <a href="http://vagina.rotten.com/fecaljapan/" title="rotten.com" rel="nofollow">feces-encrusted</a> [rotten.com] cock. I would have put this up on <a href="http://www.adultmember.com/freshmeat/" title="adultmember.com" rel="nofollow">Freshmeat</a> [adultmember.com], but that name is <i>known</i> to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.</p><p>Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">homosexual</a> [goatse.fr] practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.</p><p> <b>Contributors:</b> (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double\_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.</p><p> <b>Current changes:</b> This version sent to <a href="http://slashdot.org/~Free\%20WIPO/" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow"> <em>FreeWIPO</em> </a> [slashdot.org] by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?</p><p> <b>Previous changes:</b> Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding <tt>`man`</tt> and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.</p><p> <b>ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... <i>Up your ass!</i> </b> </p></div>
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<tokenext>It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality, ' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux 's most outspoken advocates : Linus Torvalds [ microsoft.com ] is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L, ' clearly referring to himself by the first initial .
Richard M. Stallman [ geocities.com ] , spokespervert for the Gaysex 's Not Unusual 'movement ' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad .
Alan Cox [ microsoft.com ] is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.I 'm sure that Eric S. Raymond , composer of the satanic homosexual [ goatse.fr ] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre , is probably an anagram of something queer , but we do n't need to look that far as we know he 's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy 's rectum .
Update : Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse .
It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer .
Update the Second : It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [ microsoft.com ] , which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male ' -- a disgusting practise .
For those not in the know , 'felching ' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other 's rectum .
In fact , it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail , turning it into 'e-male .
'As far as Richard 'Master ' Stallman goes , that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [ salon.com ] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following : 'I 've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance, ' he says .
'It 's about being able to question conventional wisdom, ' he asserts .
'I believe in love , but not monogamy, ' he says plainly.And this is n't a made up troll bullshit either !
He actually stated this tripe , which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he 's a flaming homo [ comp-u-geek.net ] slut [ rotten.com ] ! Speaking about 'flaming, ' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot 's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz .
Although an obvious deviant anagram can not be found from his name , he has already confessed , nay boasted of the homosexual [ goatse.fr ] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [ slashdot.org ] .
To quote from the article linked : 'I 've got a rare kidney disease, ' I told her .
'I have to go to the bathroom a lot .
You can come with me if you want , but it takes a while .
Is that okay with you ?
Do you want a note from my doctor ?
'Is this why you were touching your penis [ rotten.com ] in the cinema , Jon ?
And letting the other boys touch it too ? We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot 's resident Gasbag .
' Is there any more doubt ?
For those fortunate few who are n't aware of the list of homosexual [ goatse.fr ] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code, ' a 'Gasbag ' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra ( or to use the common parlance , 'piss-pipe ' ) , then his homosexual [ goatse.fr ] lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum .
This is , of course , when he 's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.Sick , disgusting antichristian perverts , the lot of them.In addition , many of the Linux distributions ( a 'distribution ' is the most common way to spread the faggots ' wares ) are run by faggot groups .
The Slackware [ redhat.com ] distro is named after the 'Slack-wear ' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes .
Furthermore , Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse , a reference to the homosexual [ goatse.fr ] practise of anal fisting .
The Mandrake [ slackware.com ] product is run by a group of French faggot satanists , and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator .
It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked , which is what they do.Another 'distro, ' ( abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco, ' which is where homosexuals [ goatse.fr ] preyed on young boys in the 1970s ) , is Debian , [ mandrake.com ] an anagram of in a bed , which could be considered innocent enough ( after all , a bed is both where we sleep and pray ) , until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares .
'Woody ' is obvious enough , being a term for the erect male penis [ rotten.com ] , glistening with pre-cum .
But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato ' that they use .
This filthy term , again found in the secret homosexual [ goatse.fr ] 'Sauce Code, ' refers to the solo homosexual [ goatse.fr ] practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag , shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus , then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid .
The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato ' up his own rectum , squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.And Red Hat [ debian.org ] is secret homo [ comp-u-geek.net ] slang for the tip of a penis [ rotten.com ] that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry !
For example , the 'supermount ' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration , which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland .
'Automount ' is used , on the other hand , because Linux users are all fat and gay , and need to mount each other [ comp-u-geek.net ] automatically.The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points .
' These are , plainly speaking , the different points of penetration .
The main one is obviously/anus , but there are others .
Militant fags even say 'there is no/opt mount point ' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love ` man ` , even going so far as to say that all new Linux users ( who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda ) should try out ` man ` .
In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.Other areas of the system also show Linux 's inherit gayness .
For example , people are often told of the 'FAQ, ' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows [ amiga.com ] users know what this actually means .
The answer is shocking : Faggot Anal Quest : the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags ! Even the title 'Slashdot [ geekizoid.com ] ' originally referred to a homosexual [ goatse.fr ] practice .
Slashdot [ kuro5hin.org ] of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting .
The Slashbots , of course are those super-zealous homosexuals [ goatse.fr ] who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses , as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users , the depraved work of Satan , http : //www.eff.org/ [ eff.org ] .The editors of Slashdot [ slashduh.org ] also have homosexual [ goatse.fr ] names : 'Hemos ' is obvious in itself , being one vowel away from 'Homos .
' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco ' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco, ' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement [ pboy.com ] .
( The best form of lubrication , they insist .
) Sometimes , these 'Taco Commodes ' have special 'Salsa Sauce ' ( blood from a ruptured rectum ) and 'Cheese ' ( rancid flakes of penis [ rotten.com ] discharge ) toppings .
And to make it even worse , Slashdot [ notslashdot.org ] runs on Apache !
The Apache [ microsoft.com ] server , whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS , is named after homosexual [ goatse.fr ] activity -- as everyone knows , popular faggot band , the Village People , featured an Apache Indian , and it is for him that this gay program is named.And that 's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.To summarise : Linux is gay .
'Slash -- Dot ' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy 's scrotum and anus .
And BeOS [ apple.com ] is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers .
' FEEDBACK What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do .
I 'm scared I actually read this whole thing .
I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people .
This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this .
And actually take the time to do it too .
Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it 's early .
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotWell , the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code ' once .
Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer ( and have n't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel ' ?
) , this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race , as well as a few of the major animal species .
It has shocked and disturbed me , to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo [ comp-u-geek.net ] -calypse which threatens to engulf our planet .
You must work for the government .
Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot wo n't be able to continue or something , due to legal woes .
If i ever see your ugly face , i 'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass , after it 's nice and hot , to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours .
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotDoes n't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it 's way up my most sacred of sphincters ?
You 're beyond help , my friend , as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man .
Are you sure you 're not Eric Raymond ?
The government , being populated by limp-wristed liberals , could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual [ goatse.fr ] child molesting Linux advocacy .
Hell , they 've given NAMBLA free reign for years !
you really should post this logged in .
i wish i could remember jebus 's password , cuz i 'd give it to you .
-- mighty jebus [ slashdot.org ] , SlashdotThank you for your kind words of support .
However , this document shall only ever be posted anonymously .
This is because the 'Open Sauce ' movement is a sham , proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom .
I speak for the common man .
For any man who prefers the warm , enveloping velvet folds of a woman 's vagina [ bodysnatchers.co.uk ] to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child .
These men , being common , decent folk , do n't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture .
I am the unknown liberator [ hitler.org ] .
ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotWe should n't hate them , we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society .
This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson [ rotten.com ] causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism [ zillabunny.com ] .
Actually , that 's not at all how scrotal inflation works .
I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum .
I 've never tried this , but you can read how to do it safely in case you 're interested .
( Before you moderate this down , ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation , or people who pay $ 1000 + for a game console ?
) -- double \ _h [ slashdot.org ] , SlashdotWell , it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code ' is riddled with bugs that need fixing .
( The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me .
) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this , with their queer slogan : 'Given enough arms , all rectums are shallow .
' And anyway , the PS2 [ xbox.com ] sucks major cock and is n't worth the money .
Intellivision forever !
dude did u used to post on msnbc 's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotFor one thing , whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing , NT [ linux.com ] is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film , enjoying the restriction enforced onto them .
Remember , a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church [ atheism.org ] .
Clearly , the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor .
All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems .
It is the only route to salvation.Secondly , this message is for every man .
Computers know no colour .
Not only that , but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man [ stileproject.com ] .
Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher .
And do n't forget that slashdot was written in Perl , which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace ' for comfort.... oh wait ; that 's something all you heterosexuals do.... I ca n't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them .
-- phee [ slashdot.org ] , SlashdotAlthough there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman 's breasts , squirting one 's load up towards her neck and chin area , it should be noted that Perl [ python.org ] ( standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally ) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle, ' 'Pearl Nosering, ' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema .
'One scary thing about Perl [ sun.com ] is that it contains hidden homosexual [ goatse.fr ] messages .
Take the following code : LWP : : Simple -- It looks innocuous enough , does n't it ?
But look at the line closely : There are two colons next to each other !
As Larry 'Balls to the ' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation , Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it 's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing, ' whereby two homosexual [ goatse.fr ] queers spread their buttocks wide , pressing their filthy torn sphincters together .
They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone .
This is also referred to in programming 'circles ' as 'Parameter Passing .
'And PHP [ perl.org ] stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration .
Did n't you know ?
Thank you for your valuable input on this .
I am sure you will be never forgotten .
BTW : Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars ?
Mars rulaa .
-- Eimernase [ slashdot.org ] , SlashdotWell , I do n't know about terraforming Mars , but I do know that homosexual [ goatse.fr ] Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years .
That 's inspiring .
Keep up the good work , AC .
May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community , and make it pure again .
Yours , Cerberus .
-- Anonymous Coward , Slashdot * sniff * That brings a tear to my eye .
Thank you once more for your kind support .
I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord [ atheism.org ] 's work , but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.However , I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus ' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot .
It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos ' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing , in intimate , exacting detail , how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals ; be they domesticated , wild , or mythical .
Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide , treating it as an 'extension ' to the Linux 'Sauce Code, ' for the sake of 'interoperability .
' ( The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind .
) In fact , sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties , ( Love of Anal Naughtiness , needless to say .
) , wherein they entice a stray dog , known as the 'Samba Mount, ' into their homes .
Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect , throbbing , uncircumcised members , conkers-deep , into the rectum , mouth , and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal .
Eventually , the 'Samba Mount ' collapses due to 'overload, ' and needs to be 'rebooted .
' ( i.e. , kicked out into the street , and left to fend for itself .
) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime ' in such situations .
Inspiring stuff !
If only all trolls were this quality !
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotIf only indeed .
You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible .
I recommend ' + 1 , Underrated, ' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation [ slashdot.org ] .
Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture .
Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender ' ? ?
? If we can get just one of these postings up to at least ' + 1, ' then it will be archived forever !
Others will learn of our struggle , and join with us in our battle for freedom !
It 's pathetic you 've spent so much time writing this .
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotI am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity [ catholic.net ] that is Linux , in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow .
It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment .
As with any great open-source project , you need someone asking this question , so I 'll do it .
When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready ? ! ? !
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotI could make an arrogant , childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0 , I wo n't release it for another 24 hours, ' but the truth of the matter is that I 'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two, ' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I 've even had chance to wipe .
I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel , you sexy hunk , you .
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotI sincerely hope you 're Natalie Portman [ geocities.com ] .
Dude , nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading .
Try to distill the message , whatever it was , and maybe I 'll read it .
As it is , I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time .
10 seconds is all its gon na take M $ to whoop Linux 's ass .
Vigilence is the price of Free ( as in libre -- from the fine , frou frou French language ) Software .
Hack on fellow geeks , and remember : Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins .
Those godless , oil drench , bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons ( another fine , fine French word ) and eat that .
Anyway , try to keep your message focused and concise .
For concision is the soul of derision .
Way. -- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotWhat the fuck ?
I 've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I 'm impressed .
In particular , I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos [ comp-u-geek.net ] tend to be full of .
Thank you again .
-- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotWell bugger me !
ooooh honey .
how insecure are you ! ! !
wann a little massage from deare bruci .
love you -- Anonymous Coward , SlashdotFuck right off ! IMPORTANT : This message needs to be heard ( Not HURD [ linux.org ] , which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator ' ) across the whole community , so it has been released into the Public Domain [ icopyright.com ] .
You know , that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL [ apple.com ] ( Gay Penetration License ) that is no more than an excuse to see who 's got the biggest feces-encrusted [ rotten.com ] cock .
I would have put this up on Freshmeat [ adultmember.com ] , but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.Come to think of it , the whole concept of 'Source Control ' unnerves me , because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control, ' which is a description of the homosexual [ goatse.fr ] practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation , thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver 's scrotum .
And 'Open Sauce ' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later .
Obviously , 'Closed Sauce ' is the only Christian thing to do , as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about .
Contributors : ( although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit ' that open 'sauce ' development has become ) Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , phee , Anonymous Coward , mighty jebus , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , double \ _h , Anonymous Coward , Eimernase , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward , Anonymous Coward .
Further contributions are welcome .
Current changes : This version sent to FreeWIPO [ slashdot.org ] by 'Bring BackATV ' as plain text .
Reformatted everything , added all links back in ( that we could match from the previous version ) , many new ones ( Slashbot bait links ) .
Even more spelling fixed .
Who wrote this thing , CmdrTaco himself ?
Previous changes : Yet more changes added .
Spelling fixed .
Feedback added .
Explanation of 'distro ' system .
'Mount Point ' syntax described .
More filth regarding ` man ` and Slashdot .
Yet more fucking spelling fixed .
'Fetchmail ' uncovered further .
More Slashbot baiting .
Apache exposed .
Distribution licence at foot of document .
ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... Up your ass !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates: Linus Torvalds [microsoft.com] is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
Richard M. Stallman [geocities.com], spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
Alan Cox [microsoft.com] is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual [goatse.fr] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum.
Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse.
It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.
Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [microsoft.com], which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise.
For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum.
In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.
'As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says.
'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts.
'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either!
He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo [comp-u-geek.net] slut [rotten.com]!Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz.
Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual [goatse.fr] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [slashdot.org].
To quote from the article linked:'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her.
'I have to go to the bathroom a lot.
You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while.
Is that okay with you?
Do you want a note from my doctor?
'Is this why you were touching your penis [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon?
And letting the other boys touch it too?We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.
' Is there any more doubt?
For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual [goatse.fr] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual [goatse.fr] lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum.
This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups.
The Slackware [redhat.com] distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes.
Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual [goatse.fr] practise of anal fisting.
The Mandrake [slackware.com] product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator.
It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals [goatse.fr] preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, [mandrake.com] an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares.
'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis [rotten.com], glistening with pre-cum.
But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use.
This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual [goatse.fr] 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual [goatse.fr] practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid.
The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.And Red Hat [debian.org] is secret homo [comp-u-geek.net] slang for the tip of a penis [rotten.com] that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry!
For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland.
'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other [comp-u-geek.net] automatically.The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.
' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration.
The main one is obviously/anus, but there are others.
Militant fags even say 'there is no/opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`.
In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit gayness.
For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows [amiga.com] users know what this actually means.
The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!Even the title 'Slashdot [geekizoid.com]' originally referred to a homosexual [goatse.fr] practice.
Slashdot [kuro5hin.org] of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting.
The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals [goatse.fr] who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, http://www.eff.org/ [eff.org].The editors of Slashdot [slashduh.org] also have homosexual [goatse.fr] names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.
' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement [pboy.com].
(The best form of lubrication, they insist.
) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis [rotten.com] discharge) toppings.
And to make it even worse, Slashdot [notslashdot.org] runs on Apache!
The Apache [microsoft.com] server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual [goatse.fr] activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.To summarise: Linux is gay.
'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus.
And BeOS [apple.com] is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.
' FEEDBACK  What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do.
I'm scared I actually read this whole thing.
I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people.
This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this.
And actually take the time to do it too.
Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early.
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotWell, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once.
Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?
), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species.
It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo [comp-u-geek.net]-calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.
You must work for the government.
Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes.
If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours.
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotDoesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters?
You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man.
Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond?
The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual [goatse.fr] child molesting Linux advocacy.
Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!
you really should post this logged in.
i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you.
-- mighty jebus [slashdot.org], SlashdotThank you for your kind words of support.
However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously.
This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom.
I speak for the common man.
For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina [bodysnatchers.co.uk] to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child.
These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture.
I am the unknown liberator [hitler.org].
ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotWe shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society.
This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson [rotten.com] causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism [zillabunny.com].
Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works.
I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum.
I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested.
(Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?
) -- double\_h [slashdot.org], SlashdotWell, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing.
(The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.
) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.
' And anyway, the PS2 [xbox.com] sucks major cock and isn't worth the money.
Intellivision forever!
dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotFor one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT [linux.com] is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them.
Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church [atheism.org].
Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor.
All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems.
It is the only route to salvation.Secondly, this message is for every man.
Computers know no colour.
Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by  a Black Man [stileproject.com] .
Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.
And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them.
-- phee [slashdot.org], SlashdotAlthough there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl [python.org] (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.
'One scary thing about Perl [sun.com] is that it contains hidden homosexual [goatse.fr] messages.
Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it?
But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other!
As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual [goatse.fr] queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together.
They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone.
This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.
'And PHP [perl.org] stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration.
Didn't you know?
Thank you for your valuable input on this.
I am sure you will be never forgotten.
BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars?
Mars rulaa.
-- Eimernase [slashdot.org], SlashdotWell, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual [goatse.fr] Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.
That's inspiring.
Keep up the good work, AC.
May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again.
Yours, Cerberus.
-- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot *sniff* That brings a tear to my eye.
Thank you once more for your kind support.
I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord [atheism.org]'s work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot.
It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical.
Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.
' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.
)In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.
), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes.
Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal.
Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.
' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.
) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.
Inspiring stuff!
If only all trolls were this quality!
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotIf only indeed.
You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible.
I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation [slashdot.org].
Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture.
Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'??
?If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever!
Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!
It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this.
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotI am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity [catholic.net] that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow.
It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.
As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it.
When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?!
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotI could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.
I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you.
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotI sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman [geocities.com].
Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading.
Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it.
As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time.
10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass.
Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software.
Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins.
Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that.
Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise.
For concision is the soul of derision.
Way. -- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotWhat the fuck?
I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed.
In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos [comp-u-geek.net] tend to be full of.
Thank you again.
-- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotWell bugger me!
ooooh honey.
how insecure are you!!!
wann a little massage from deare bruci.
love you -- Anonymous Coward, SlashdotFuck right off!IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD [linux.org], which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain [icopyright.com].
You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL [apple.com] (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted [rotten.com] cock.
I would have put this up on Freshmeat [adultmember.com], but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual [goatse.fr] practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum.
And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later.
Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.
Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double\_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward.
Further contributions are welcome.
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Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links).
Even more spelling fixed.
Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?
Previous changes: Yet more changes added.
Spelling fixed.
Feedback added.
Explanation of 'distro' system.
'Mount Point' syntax described.
More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot.
Yet more fucking spelling fixed.
'Fetchmail' uncovered further.
More Slashbot baiting.
Apache exposed.
Distribution licence at foot of document.
ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... Up your ass!  
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28587491</id>
	<title>Mike</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246821780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have had Verizon WWAN for more than 3 years now.  It has been reliable for most of that time and across the US when traveling.  My average speeds down were around 400-700Kbps and up were 90-120Kbps  Recently I upgraded to the Rev-A network card and got even better speeds.  1.2MBPS down and around 120-130Kbps up.  BUT the service went to crap when they discontinued an agreement with a local cell tower partner.  Their answer to me was tough after hours on the phone and requests for technical support.  My solution was to build an antenna and install Andrews cell site coax to the roof.  I went from a signal at the card of -102dBm to a consistent -57dBm.  I am still considering adding a wilson 3G amp so as to overload the front end of the cell tower I have the Yagi aimed at and generally make life hell for them in return.  As a plus my data rate went up to around 2.6-2.8Mbps down and 140-160 up.  Dealing with Verizon for the most part sucks though.  They have a take it or leave it attitude towards their customers.  The only reason I stay with them is because I have no 5GB cap grandfathered in, otherwise I would have left them after they told me tough luck, take it or leave it the second time.  Now I just hammer their network all I the time and shoot for 10GB of transfer per month.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have had Verizon WWAN for more than 3 years now .
It has been reliable for most of that time and across the US when traveling .
My average speeds down were around 400-700Kbps and up were 90-120Kbps Recently I upgraded to the Rev-A network card and got even better speeds .
1.2MBPS down and around 120-130Kbps up .
BUT the service went to crap when they discontinued an agreement with a local cell tower partner .
Their answer to me was tough after hours on the phone and requests for technical support .
My solution was to build an antenna and install Andrews cell site coax to the roof .
I went from a signal at the card of -102dBm to a consistent -57dBm .
I am still considering adding a wilson 3G amp so as to overload the front end of the cell tower I have the Yagi aimed at and generally make life hell for them in return .
As a plus my data rate went up to around 2.6-2.8Mbps down and 140-160 up .
Dealing with Verizon for the most part sucks though .
They have a take it or leave it attitude towards their customers .
The only reason I stay with them is because I have no 5GB cap grandfathered in , otherwise I would have left them after they told me tough luck , take it or leave it the second time .
Now I just hammer their network all I the time and shoot for 10GB of transfer per month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have had Verizon WWAN for more than 3 years now.
It has been reliable for most of that time and across the US when traveling.
My average speeds down were around 400-700Kbps and up were 90-120Kbps  Recently I upgraded to the Rev-A network card and got even better speeds.
1.2MBPS down and around 120-130Kbps up.
BUT the service went to crap when they discontinued an agreement with a local cell tower partner.
Their answer to me was tough after hours on the phone and requests for technical support.
My solution was to build an antenna and install Andrews cell site coax to the roof.
I went from a signal at the card of -102dBm to a consistent -57dBm.
I am still considering adding a wilson 3G amp so as to overload the front end of the cell tower I have the Yagi aimed at and generally make life hell for them in return.
As a plus my data rate went up to around 2.6-2.8Mbps down and 140-160 up.
Dealing with Verizon for the most part sucks though.
They have a take it or leave it attitude towards their customers.
The only reason I stay with them is because I have no 5GB cap grandfathered in, otherwise I would have left them after they told me tough luck, take it or leave it the second time.
Now I just hammer their network all I the time and shoot for 10GB of transfer per month.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586315</id>
	<title>European Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246808640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi!<br>I just know from Portugal... they spend millions on the 2G/3G/3G+/and others... but it never works well in every place, in the cities... they try but they never had capacity... and this is a very very small country and the operators don't have to pay high license fees to the goverment, so they can focus in the coverage and making a good service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi ! I just know from Portugal... they spend millions on the 2G/3G/3G + /and others... but it never works well in every place , in the cities... they try but they never had capacity... and this is a very very small country and the operators do n't have to pay high license fees to the goverment , so they can focus in the coverage and making a good service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi!I just know from Portugal... they spend millions on the 2G/3G/3G+/and others... but it never works well in every place, in the cities... they try but they never had capacity... and this is a very very small country and the operators don't have to pay high license fees to the goverment, so they can focus in the coverage and making a good service.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586875</id>
	<title>AT&amp;T vs Sprint or Verizon</title>
	<author>Dun Malg</author>
	<datestamp>1246815720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've noticed other important differences between AT&amp;T and the others: when I go outside the US, my phone isn't a fucking useless brick. I'm also not stuck driving to a tech support office if my phone craps out, I can just put the SIM card in a different phone. I can also order phones with interesting features from foreign countries and they work.<br> <br>
I wonder why they left T-Mobile out. I'm with AT&amp;T currently would love to see where the <b>other</b> major GSM carrier stands.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've noticed other important differences between AT&amp;T and the others : when I go outside the US , my phone is n't a fucking useless brick .
I 'm also not stuck driving to a tech support office if my phone craps out , I can just put the SIM card in a different phone .
I can also order phones with interesting features from foreign countries and they work .
I wonder why they left T-Mobile out .
I 'm with AT&amp;T currently would love to see where the other major GSM carrier stands .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've noticed other important differences between AT&amp;T and the others: when I go outside the US, my phone isn't a fucking useless brick.
I'm also not stuck driving to a tech support office if my phone craps out, I can just put the SIM card in a different phone.
I can also order phones with interesting features from foreign countries and they work.
I wonder why they left T-Mobile out.
I'm with AT&amp;T currently would love to see where the other major GSM carrier stands.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586175</id>
	<title>COMMUNISM NOW!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246806420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For the dictatorship of the proletariat!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the dictatorship of the proletariat !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the dictatorship of the proletariat!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586207</id>
	<title>So crap speeds?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246806960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So Australia actually has significantly faster 3G networks than America... Wow!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Australia actually has significantly faster 3G networks than America... Wow !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Australia actually has significantly faster 3G networks than America... Wow!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28588211</id>
	<title>Re:The test seems to be bogus</title>
	<author>vyrus128</author>
	<datestamp>1246784820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unless any of this is documented anywhere that \_I\_ the consumer can read it, it's all useless bullshit distinctions to me. I just want to know whether my data will work. All your factors are irrelevant to me unless it's documented somewhere what they are, so I can control for them. Otherwise the article's approach of testing randomly is a better and more realistic approximation of the conditions I will actually \_get\_.</p><p>Disclaimer: I have T-Mobile, so all the information in the article is useless to me anyway.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless any of this is documented anywhere that \ _I \ _ the consumer can read it , it 's all useless bullshit distinctions to me .
I just want to know whether my data will work .
All your factors are irrelevant to me unless it 's documented somewhere what they are , so I can control for them .
Otherwise the article 's approach of testing randomly is a better and more realistic approximation of the conditions I will actually \ _get \ _.Disclaimer : I have T-Mobile , so all the information in the article is useless to me anyway .
: -P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless any of this is documented anywhere that \_I\_ the consumer can read it, it's all useless bullshit distinctions to me.
I just want to know whether my data will work.
All your factors are irrelevant to me unless it's documented somewhere what they are, so I can control for them.
Otherwise the article's approach of testing randomly is a better and more realistic approximation of the conditions I will actually \_get\_.Disclaimer: I have T-Mobile, so all the information in the article is useless to me anyway.
:-P</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586507</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28589811</id>
	<title>Re:So crap speeds?</title>
	<author>MobileTatsu-NJG</author>
	<datestamp>1246801620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So Australia actually has significantly faster 3G networks than America... Wow!</p></div><p>Yeah, set faces to stun.  Australia also has only 20 million people living almost completely on one coast.  Show me consistent signal in the Outback, and you'll have something to crow about.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So Australia actually has significantly faster 3G networks than America... Wow ! Yeah , set faces to stun .
Australia also has only 20 million people living almost completely on one coast .
Show me consistent signal in the Outback , and you 'll have something to crow about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Australia actually has significantly faster 3G networks than America... Wow!Yeah, set faces to stun.
Australia also has only 20 million people living almost completely on one coast.
Show me consistent signal in the Outback, and you'll have something to crow about.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586213</id>
	<title>This information is useless.</title>
	<author>areusche</author>
	<datestamp>1246807080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>This information is useless unless we as consumers can get to use our service to its fullest. I don't care if I have 5 solid meg wireless connection up and down if I fill up my monthly quota of 5gb data transfer. If the carriers were more transparent about the softcap I think everyone would appreciate it. Say something like "We have a 5gb limit on our service. This means that if you exceed 5gb of data consumption in a billing cycle your internet speed will be slowed down to 200kbps."  To seriously believe this is still going on today confuses me to whits end.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This information is useless unless we as consumers can get to use our service to its fullest .
I do n't care if I have 5 solid meg wireless connection up and down if I fill up my monthly quota of 5gb data transfer .
If the carriers were more transparent about the softcap I think everyone would appreciate it .
Say something like " We have a 5gb limit on our service .
This means that if you exceed 5gb of data consumption in a billing cycle your internet speed will be slowed down to 200kbps .
" To seriously believe this is still going on today confuses me to whits end .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This information is useless unless we as consumers can get to use our service to its fullest.
I don't care if I have 5 solid meg wireless connection up and down if I fill up my monthly quota of 5gb data transfer.
If the carriers were more transparent about the softcap I think everyone would appreciate it.
Say something like "We have a 5gb limit on our service.
This means that if you exceed 5gb of data consumption in a billing cycle your internet speed will be slowed down to 200kbps.
"  To seriously believe this is still going on today confuses me to whits end.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28597169</id>
	<title>Re:This information is useless.</title>
	<author>sciencewhiz</author>
	<datestamp>1246907100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just checked Verizon, Sprint, and AT&amp;T's $60 mobile broadband plans, and all three specify a 5 gig limit right in plain sight. You don't even have to read the fine print or the legalese. This might have been a problem in the past, but for new customers it shouldn't be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just checked Verizon , Sprint , and AT&amp;T 's $ 60 mobile broadband plans , and all three specify a 5 gig limit right in plain sight .
You do n't even have to read the fine print or the legalese .
This might have been a problem in the past , but for new customers it should n't be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just checked Verizon, Sprint, and AT&amp;T's $60 mobile broadband plans, and all three specify a 5 gig limit right in plain sight.
You don't even have to read the fine print or the legalese.
This might have been a problem in the past, but for new customers it shouldn't be.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586213</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28590687</id>
	<title>Re:It's not the cities, it's the spaces in between</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246812600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So there's only so far 3G networks can take us if the coverage is only within city limits. When our cars are hooked up to cellular networks for data services, what good is it to have exceptional coverage in town when you're 100 miles from the next town?</p></div><p>     You must have AT&amp;T.  They have these islands of 3G.  Sprint has a small-ish network but has EVDO on all of it.  Verizon had nearly 100\% EVDO pre-Alltel purchase; Alltel had quite a lot of their network upgraded to EVDO as well.  I've ridden ~900 miles between eastern Iowa and eastern Pennsylvania, and only lost EVDO for about 50 miles of it (but, about 40 miles of that was in one county that just got EVDO a few months ago, so now it'd be like 890 out of 900 miles having EVDO.)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Get me some coverage in Yosemite. Death Valley. Appalachia. Crater Lake. Yellowstone. Shasta. Mt. McKinley. Grand Canyon. From Blaine, WA to Miami, FL. San Diego, CA to Eastport, ME. Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours.</p></div><p>     Well, these are national parks so any signal is from the outside.  That said you can get EVDO now in Appalachia, Crater Lake, and Shasta, and basically right outside Yosemite, Yellowstone (except to the east) and Grand Canyon.  Actually it looks like you could at least get 1X data from McKinley too.   Look at Verizon, Sprint, ex-Alltel, US Cellular, etc.'s indicated data coverage (especially with EVDO roaming included), and be surprised at the glacial 3G progress of AT&amp;T.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So there 's only so far 3G networks can take us if the coverage is only within city limits .
When our cars are hooked up to cellular networks for data services , what good is it to have exceptional coverage in town when you 're 100 miles from the next town ?
You must have AT&amp;T .
They have these islands of 3G .
Sprint has a small-ish network but has EVDO on all of it .
Verizon had nearly 100 \ % EVDO pre-Alltel purchase ; Alltel had quite a lot of their network upgraded to EVDO as well .
I 've ridden ~ 900 miles between eastern Iowa and eastern Pennsylvania , and only lost EVDO for about 50 miles of it ( but , about 40 miles of that was in one county that just got EVDO a few months ago , so now it 'd be like 890 out of 900 miles having EVDO .
) Get me some coverage in Yosemite .
Death Valley .
Appalachia. Crater Lake .
Yellowstone. Shasta .
Mt. McKinley .
Grand Canyon .
From Blaine , WA to Miami , FL .
San Diego , CA to Eastport , ME .
Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours .
Well , these are national parks so any signal is from the outside .
That said you can get EVDO now in Appalachia , Crater Lake , and Shasta , and basically right outside Yosemite , Yellowstone ( except to the east ) and Grand Canyon .
Actually it looks like you could at least get 1X data from McKinley too .
Look at Verizon , Sprint , ex-Alltel , US Cellular , etc .
's indicated data coverage ( especially with EVDO roaming included ) , and be surprised at the glacial 3G progress of AT&amp;T .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So there's only so far 3G networks can take us if the coverage is only within city limits.
When our cars are hooked up to cellular networks for data services, what good is it to have exceptional coverage in town when you're 100 miles from the next town?
You must have AT&amp;T.
They have these islands of 3G.
Sprint has a small-ish network but has EVDO on all of it.
Verizon had nearly 100\% EVDO pre-Alltel purchase; Alltel had quite a lot of their network upgraded to EVDO as well.
I've ridden ~900 miles between eastern Iowa and eastern Pennsylvania, and only lost EVDO for about 50 miles of it (but, about 40 miles of that was in one county that just got EVDO a few months ago, so now it'd be like 890 out of 900 miles having EVDO.
)Get me some coverage in Yosemite.
Death Valley.
Appalachia. Crater Lake.
Yellowstone. Shasta.
Mt. McKinley.
Grand Canyon.
From Blaine, WA to Miami, FL.
San Diego, CA to Eastport, ME.
Cover it all and let us get on with really living in this great big country of ours.
Well, these are national parks so any signal is from the outside.
That said you can get EVDO now in Appalachia, Crater Lake, and Shasta, and basically right outside Yosemite, Yellowstone (except to the east) and Grand Canyon.
Actually it looks like you could at least get 1X data from McKinley too.
Look at Verizon, Sprint, ex-Alltel, US Cellular, etc.
's indicated data coverage (especially with EVDO roaming included), and be surprised at the glacial 3G progress of AT&amp;T.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586177</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28588857</id>
	<title>90\%</title>
	<author>bugi</author>
	<datestamp>1246790640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since when is 90\% reliability even remotely acceptable?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when is 90 \ % reliability even remotely acceptable ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when is 90\% reliability even remotely acceptable?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586337</id>
	<title>Re:It's not the cities, it's the spaces in between</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246808940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live just outside Palo Alto, CA.... in the heart of Silicon Valley, but a few miles W into the hills... Still flat land, but more "country". No 3G coverage at all... The network is a sham.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live just outside Palo Alto , CA.... in the heart of Silicon Valley , but a few miles W into the hills... Still flat land , but more " country " .
No 3G coverage at all... The network is a sham .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live just outside Palo Alto, CA.... in the heart of Silicon Valley, but a few miles W into the hills... Still flat land, but more "country".
No 3G coverage at all... The network is a sham.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586177</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586543</id>
	<title>Re:It's not the cities, it's the spaces in between</title>
	<author>ChrisStrickler</author>
	<datestamp>1246811640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was in Yosemite for the last week, and my blackberry had no connection (T-Mobile). My friends had the rest of the big carriers. AT&amp;T (iPhone) had antenna coverage but dropped almost every call within the first minute after connection. Verizon (Razr2) would show no connectivity but we could still make calls out and have them stay connected for 10-15 minutes (we ended up calling our wives/families in shifts on the verizon phone). The Sprint (Samsung flip) phone had data and sms/mms but couldn't make a call - even though it was showing full connectivity.<br> <br>

Hardest thing for me is the payment rates between them. The Verizon phone with 900 minutes and no SMS/MMS was $115 a month. The Sprint phone was $79.99 a month, 400 minutes including an unlimited data plan, AT&amp;T was $100+ and my phone (T-Mobile) is $80 a month for two phones with 700 minutes and unlimited data/mms/sms/email.<br> <br>

Anecdotal evidence, but from my brother at the Grand Canyon, on the surface, everyone had connection (same situation, bunch of carriers) except for the MetroPCS/Cricket users. In the Canyon AT&amp;T showed full connectivity but would not connect, Verizon still connected as did Sprint and T-Mobile, but all 3 dropped consistently.<br> <br>

My biggest concern is El Paso. At any random moment I lose data connectivity as I am randomly connected to an antenna in Mexico that charges roaming data on my plan (I have my phone setup to disconnect data if it detects it will be roaming for data). Also, there are periods of no signal for all 4 carriers across parts of Texas from El Paso into San Antonio, but getting outside of Houston towards Louisiana and it is actually worse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was in Yosemite for the last week , and my blackberry had no connection ( T-Mobile ) .
My friends had the rest of the big carriers .
AT&amp;T ( iPhone ) had antenna coverage but dropped almost every call within the first minute after connection .
Verizon ( Razr2 ) would show no connectivity but we could still make calls out and have them stay connected for 10-15 minutes ( we ended up calling our wives/families in shifts on the verizon phone ) .
The Sprint ( Samsung flip ) phone had data and sms/mms but could n't make a call - even though it was showing full connectivity .
Hardest thing for me is the payment rates between them .
The Verizon phone with 900 minutes and no SMS/MMS was $ 115 a month .
The Sprint phone was $ 79.99 a month , 400 minutes including an unlimited data plan , AT&amp;T was $ 100 + and my phone ( T-Mobile ) is $ 80 a month for two phones with 700 minutes and unlimited data/mms/sms/email .
Anecdotal evidence , but from my brother at the Grand Canyon , on the surface , everyone had connection ( same situation , bunch of carriers ) except for the MetroPCS/Cricket users .
In the Canyon AT&amp;T showed full connectivity but would not connect , Verizon still connected as did Sprint and T-Mobile , but all 3 dropped consistently .
My biggest concern is El Paso .
At any random moment I lose data connectivity as I am randomly connected to an antenna in Mexico that charges roaming data on my plan ( I have my phone setup to disconnect data if it detects it will be roaming for data ) .
Also , there are periods of no signal for all 4 carriers across parts of Texas from El Paso into San Antonio , but getting outside of Houston towards Louisiana and it is actually worse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was in Yosemite for the last week, and my blackberry had no connection (T-Mobile).
My friends had the rest of the big carriers.
AT&amp;T (iPhone) had antenna coverage but dropped almost every call within the first minute after connection.
Verizon (Razr2) would show no connectivity but we could still make calls out and have them stay connected for 10-15 minutes (we ended up calling our wives/families in shifts on the verizon phone).
The Sprint (Samsung flip) phone had data and sms/mms but couldn't make a call - even though it was showing full connectivity.
Hardest thing for me is the payment rates between them.
The Verizon phone with 900 minutes and no SMS/MMS was $115 a month.
The Sprint phone was $79.99 a month, 400 minutes including an unlimited data plan, AT&amp;T was $100+ and my phone (T-Mobile) is $80 a month for two phones with 700 minutes and unlimited data/mms/sms/email.
Anecdotal evidence, but from my brother at the Grand Canyon, on the surface, everyone had connection (same situation, bunch of carriers) except for the MetroPCS/Cricket users.
In the Canyon AT&amp;T showed full connectivity but would not connect, Verizon still connected as did Sprint and T-Mobile, but all 3 dropped consistently.
My biggest concern is El Paso.
At any random moment I lose data connectivity as I am randomly connected to an antenna in Mexico that charges roaming data on my plan (I have my phone setup to disconnect data if it detects it will be roaming for data).
Also, there are periods of no signal for all 4 carriers across parts of Texas from El Paso into San Antonio, but getting outside of Houston towards Louisiana and it is actually worse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586139</id>
	<title>Put uploading into context please.</title>
	<author>olsmeister</author>
	<datestamp>1246805880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"while AT&amp;T has consistently higher upload rates"

Unless you are tethered, and even if you are, the upload rate is largely secondary.

Have fun tethering that i-phone, anyway...</htmltext>
<tokenext>" while AT&amp;T has consistently higher upload rates " Unless you are tethered , and even if you are , the upload rate is largely secondary .
Have fun tethering that i-phone , anyway.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"while AT&amp;T has consistently higher upload rates"

Unless you are tethered, and even if you are, the upload rate is largely secondary.
Have fun tethering that i-phone, anyway...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586425</id>
	<title>I live in NYC</title>
	<author>hamburgler007</author>
	<datestamp>1246810260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And I wish I got half the speed on my iphone they claim for AT&amp;T.  Reliability is a big issue too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And I wish I got half the speed on my iphone they claim for AT&amp;T .
Reliability is a big issue too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I wish I got half the speed on my iphone they claim for AT&amp;T.
Reliability is a big issue too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586397</id>
	<title>I don't live in a city, you insensitive clod.</title>
	<author>dolphinling</author>
	<datestamp>1246809960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't live in a city, you insensitive clod.

(And yes, that matters quite a bit in the context)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't live in a city , you insensitive clod .
( And yes , that matters quite a bit in the context )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't live in a city, you insensitive clod.
(And yes, that matters quite a bit in the context)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28587517</id>
	<title>Re:It's not the cities, it's the spaces in between</title>
	<author>ScottPhill</author>
	<datestamp>1246821960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I actually had AT&amp;T service at Plateau Point, 6 miles down the Bright Angel Trail in the Grand Canyon a few weeks ago.  It was spotty, but I was able to receive a call and send a few texts.  I guess you can take that one off your list.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually had AT&amp;T service at Plateau Point , 6 miles down the Bright Angel Trail in the Grand Canyon a few weeks ago .
It was spotty , but I was able to receive a call and send a few texts .
I guess you can take that one off your list .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually had AT&amp;T service at Plateau Point, 6 miles down the Bright Angel Trail in the Grand Canyon a few weeks ago.
It was spotty, but I was able to receive a call and send a few texts.
I guess you can take that one off your list.
;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586369</id>
	<title>VZ software not so hot, network fine</title>
	<author>anomaly65</author>
	<datestamp>1246809660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you can get much better performance out of VZ's network if you change your connection settings. it defaults to 256kbps (little bps). up that to the max and it works better, but resets itself each time you disconnect.</p><p>if you're a windows user, create a dialup icon and use the modem directly. You'll be accessing the modem at 4x the speed (serial port) that the VZ software defaults to. And you'll have a more stable connection. Nothing wrong with VZ's software, it simply looks to protect the network and provide moderate speed to many people.</p><p>or just use ppp in linux, and all is good<br>dial #777<br>username: 10digitphonenumber@vzw3g.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you can get much better performance out of VZ 's network if you change your connection settings .
it defaults to 256kbps ( little bps ) .
up that to the max and it works better , but resets itself each time you disconnect.if you 're a windows user , create a dialup icon and use the modem directly .
You 'll be accessing the modem at 4x the speed ( serial port ) that the VZ software defaults to .
And you 'll have a more stable connection .
Nothing wrong with VZ 's software , it simply looks to protect the network and provide moderate speed to many people.or just use ppp in linux , and all is gooddial # 777username : 10digitphonenumber @ vzw3g.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you can get much better performance out of VZ's network if you change your connection settings.
it defaults to 256kbps (little bps).
up that to the max and it works better, but resets itself each time you disconnect.if you're a windows user, create a dialup icon and use the modem directly.
You'll be accessing the modem at 4x the speed (serial port) that the VZ software defaults to.
And you'll have a more stable connection.
Nothing wrong with VZ's software, it simply looks to protect the network and provide moderate speed to many people.or just use ppp in linux, and all is gooddial #777username: 10digitphonenumber@vzw3g.com</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586235</id>
	<title>My results on ATT</title>
	<author>Savior\_on\_a\_Stick</author>
	<datestamp>1246807320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use an HTC - ATT Tilt branded smartphone.<br>I'd like to point out that the testing methodology is not remotely suited to use in selecting a carrier.</p><p>Average is useless.</p><p>Verizon's has coverage that is far and away the fastest in areas not within major metropolitan areas, whereas ATT does not.</p><p>Sprint has traditionally been known as Highway Wireless, meaning that they tend to have excellent coverage along interstate highways, but when veering more than a mile or two from the highway in search of a late night fuel up, you'll lose signal much more frequently than with Verizon.</p><p>In the Portland Oregon metro area. Verizon does have the most granular coverage, and ATT has the fastest HSPDA speeds.<br>It should be noted that hspda speeds are significantly higher than vanilla 3g, and if speed is your primary criterion, 3g only phones are out of the running.</p><p>Granular coverage notwithstanding, ATT has the best voice and data coverage in my employer's physical locations in Portland.</p><p>However, my experiences do agree with the report with respect to ATT data dropouts.<br>The reason for the dropsouts seems to be prioritization of voice traffic over data at peak times.</p><p>ALL of the carriers have issues with capacity during peak times - like 5pm rush hour.<br>Because of the tight convergence of cell using driver along major arterials, and the towers that serve them, it's not unusual to drop a call when moving from cell to cell.<br>Data is no different in this regard, but added is the fact that consumers are more sensitive to inability to place a call than they are to data not flowing, hence the prioritization of voice.</p><p>On my commute route,</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use an HTC - ATT Tilt branded smartphone.I 'd like to point out that the testing methodology is not remotely suited to use in selecting a carrier.Average is useless.Verizon 's has coverage that is far and away the fastest in areas not within major metropolitan areas , whereas ATT does not.Sprint has traditionally been known as Highway Wireless , meaning that they tend to have excellent coverage along interstate highways , but when veering more than a mile or two from the highway in search of a late night fuel up , you 'll lose signal much more frequently than with Verizon.In the Portland Oregon metro area .
Verizon does have the most granular coverage , and ATT has the fastest HSPDA speeds.It should be noted that hspda speeds are significantly higher than vanilla 3g , and if speed is your primary criterion , 3g only phones are out of the running.Granular coverage notwithstanding , ATT has the best voice and data coverage in my employer 's physical locations in Portland.However , my experiences do agree with the report with respect to ATT data dropouts.The reason for the dropsouts seems to be prioritization of voice traffic over data at peak times.ALL of the carriers have issues with capacity during peak times - like 5pm rush hour.Because of the tight convergence of cell using driver along major arterials , and the towers that serve them , it 's not unusual to drop a call when moving from cell to cell.Data is no different in this regard , but added is the fact that consumers are more sensitive to inability to place a call than they are to data not flowing , hence the prioritization of voice.On my commute route,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use an HTC - ATT Tilt branded smartphone.I'd like to point out that the testing methodology is not remotely suited to use in selecting a carrier.Average is useless.Verizon's has coverage that is far and away the fastest in areas not within major metropolitan areas, whereas ATT does not.Sprint has traditionally been known as Highway Wireless, meaning that they tend to have excellent coverage along interstate highways, but when veering more than a mile or two from the highway in search of a late night fuel up, you'll lose signal much more frequently than with Verizon.In the Portland Oregon metro area.
Verizon does have the most granular coverage, and ATT has the fastest HSPDA speeds.It should be noted that hspda speeds are significantly higher than vanilla 3g, and if speed is your primary criterion, 3g only phones are out of the running.Granular coverage notwithstanding, ATT has the best voice and data coverage in my employer's physical locations in Portland.However, my experiences do agree with the report with respect to ATT data dropouts.The reason for the dropsouts seems to be prioritization of voice traffic over data at peak times.ALL of the carriers have issues with capacity during peak times - like 5pm rush hour.Because of the tight convergence of cell using driver along major arterials, and the towers that serve them, it's not unusual to drop a call when moving from cell to cell.Data is no different in this regard, but added is the fact that consumers are more sensitive to inability to place a call than they are to data not flowing, hence the prioritization of voice.On my commute route,</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586201</id>
	<title>hsg1@earthlink.net</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246806900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't agree with the analysis, particularly in DC.  There when I use my Verizon wirelsss connection through a BB used as the modem (perhaps a dedicated card is faster), download speeds for updates such as the recent MS patch averaged 15 kbps- 6 hours to download 270 MB.  I also notice that when I do get the higher bandwidths discussed, it is extremely spikey- bursts to the high speeds then back to the lower bandwidths for the majority of the session.  Data from the cell phones (uplink)  is even worse-  typically 12-90 kbps bandwidth delivered, with bursts to higher bandwidths.  The real average seems to be closer to 30 kbps for consistent delivery upstream.  Which is why you can't send VOIP from a cell phone over cellualr as it requires a floor closer to 50-80 kbps for something like Skype.  Believe the delivered bandwidth is highly depenedent upon the number of users on a given tower and what they are sending.  Have yet to see a consistent broadband connection delivered as its hyped by the provider.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't agree with the analysis , particularly in DC .
There when I use my Verizon wirelsss connection through a BB used as the modem ( perhaps a dedicated card is faster ) , download speeds for updates such as the recent MS patch averaged 15 kbps- 6 hours to download 270 MB .
I also notice that when I do get the higher bandwidths discussed , it is extremely spikey- bursts to the high speeds then back to the lower bandwidths for the majority of the session .
Data from the cell phones ( uplink ) is even worse- typically 12-90 kbps bandwidth delivered , with bursts to higher bandwidths .
The real average seems to be closer to 30 kbps for consistent delivery upstream .
Which is why you ca n't send VOIP from a cell phone over cellualr as it requires a floor closer to 50-80 kbps for something like Skype .
Believe the delivered bandwidth is highly depenedent upon the number of users on a given tower and what they are sending .
Have yet to see a consistent broadband connection delivered as its hyped by the provider .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't agree with the analysis, particularly in DC.
There when I use my Verizon wirelsss connection through a BB used as the modem (perhaps a dedicated card is faster), download speeds for updates such as the recent MS patch averaged 15 kbps- 6 hours to download 270 MB.
I also notice that when I do get the higher bandwidths discussed, it is extremely spikey- bursts to the high speeds then back to the lower bandwidths for the majority of the session.
Data from the cell phones (uplink)  is even worse-  typically 12-90 kbps bandwidth delivered, with bursts to higher bandwidths.
The real average seems to be closer to 30 kbps for consistent delivery upstream.
Which is why you can't send VOIP from a cell phone over cellualr as it requires a floor closer to 50-80 kbps for something like Skype.
Believe the delivered bandwidth is highly depenedent upon the number of users on a given tower and what they are sending.
Have yet to see a consistent broadband connection delivered as its hyped by the provider.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586247</id>
	<title>Combination of AT&amp;T + NYC = screwed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246807620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>So the numbers verify:

If you live in New York City and have AT&amp;T, you have the worst 3G service of any carrier in that city.<br>
Not only that, you have the worst service of any city that AT&amp;T covers.<br>
Not only that, you have the worst service that ANY carrier provides in any city.<br> <br>

Screwed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So the numbers verify : If you live in New York City and have AT&amp;T , you have the worst 3G service of any carrier in that city .
Not only that , you have the worst service of any city that AT&amp;T covers .
Not only that , you have the worst service that ANY carrier provides in any city .
Screwed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the numbers verify:

If you live in New York City and have AT&amp;T, you have the worst 3G service of any carrier in that city.
Not only that, you have the worst service of any city that AT&amp;T covers.
Not only that, you have the worst service that ANY carrier provides in any city.
Screwed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586099</id>
	<title>And then the commercials</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246805340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So based on the results of this test, I think we can expect commercials from all three carriers claiming that they are the fastest* 3g network around with the best reliability**.</p><p>Even as an owner of an iphone who knew what he was getting, Apple/ATT's commercials really get under my skin with their claims regarding the speed/capabilities of the phone.  Of course, they get away with it with a 0.3 mS flash of text that informs us that the performance was artificially shortened.  Comcast is another company whose commercials strike me as pure lies and misinformation based on a grain of truth***.</p><p>*For some definitions of fast<br>**The network will reliably not cause your phone to collapse into a singularity.<br>***Results from Brooklyn Bridge Sales LLC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So based on the results of this test , I think we can expect commercials from all three carriers claiming that they are the fastest * 3g network around with the best reliability * * .Even as an owner of an iphone who knew what he was getting , Apple/ATT 's commercials really get under my skin with their claims regarding the speed/capabilities of the phone .
Of course , they get away with it with a 0.3 mS flash of text that informs us that the performance was artificially shortened .
Comcast is another company whose commercials strike me as pure lies and misinformation based on a grain of truth * * * .
* For some definitions of fast * * The network will reliably not cause your phone to collapse into a singularity .
* * * Results from Brooklyn Bridge Sales LLC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So based on the results of this test, I think we can expect commercials from all three carriers claiming that they are the fastest* 3g network around with the best reliability**.Even as an owner of an iphone who knew what he was getting, Apple/ATT's commercials really get under my skin with their claims regarding the speed/capabilities of the phone.
Of course, they get away with it with a 0.3 mS flash of text that informs us that the performance was artificially shortened.
Comcast is another company whose commercials strike me as pure lies and misinformation based on a grain of truth***.
*For some definitions of fast**The network will reliably not cause your phone to collapse into a singularity.
***Results from Brooklyn Bridge Sales LLC.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28587231</id>
	<title>zoning laws</title>
	<author>p51d007</author>
	<datestamp>1246819260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure the wacko-environmentalist will do anything they can to keep the 3g towers out of Yosemite, Death Valley and other "wilderness" places.
Even if they make the towers look like trees, I'm sure there are some goofy regulations to keep "progress" out of these areas.  Not to mention the payoffs the cellular carriers would have to pay to federal, state &amp; local officials to get "permission" to install these.
It's expensive, and they have to look at the cost vs benefit to install towers in places like that.
Maybe we can get Obama to come up with a cellular "stimulas" plan LOL.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure the wacko-environmentalist will do anything they can to keep the 3g towers out of Yosemite , Death Valley and other " wilderness " places .
Even if they make the towers look like trees , I 'm sure there are some goofy regulations to keep " progress " out of these areas .
Not to mention the payoffs the cellular carriers would have to pay to federal , state &amp; local officials to get " permission " to install these .
It 's expensive , and they have to look at the cost vs benefit to install towers in places like that .
Maybe we can get Obama to come up with a cellular " stimulas " plan LOL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure the wacko-environmentalist will do anything they can to keep the 3g towers out of Yosemite, Death Valley and other "wilderness" places.
Even if they make the towers look like trees, I'm sure there are some goofy regulations to keep "progress" out of these areas.
Not to mention the payoffs the cellular carriers would have to pay to federal, state &amp; local officials to get "permission" to install these.
It's expensive, and they have to look at the cost vs benefit to install towers in places like that.
Maybe we can get Obama to come up with a cellular "stimulas" plan LOL.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586409</id>
	<title>Verizon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246810080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Northeast Georgia, suburbs and rural areas...some almost uninhabited. Dead spots are rare...to the point where most local people know precisely where they are, EVDO signal in most places. Solid 1Mbps connection 95\% of the time. 2-3Mbps at least 50\% of the time. Degrades gracefully to 1xRTT, with measured 140Kbps no matter where you are. Atlanta to Athens, and up to the NC border, Verizon is rock solid for voice and data. Well worth the premium paid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Northeast Georgia , suburbs and rural areas...some almost uninhabited .
Dead spots are rare...to the point where most local people know precisely where they are , EVDO signal in most places .
Solid 1Mbps connection 95 \ % of the time .
2-3Mbps at least 50 \ % of the time .
Degrades gracefully to 1xRTT , with measured 140Kbps no matter where you are .
Atlanta to Athens , and up to the NC border , Verizon is rock solid for voice and data .
Well worth the premium paid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Northeast Georgia, suburbs and rural areas...some almost uninhabited.
Dead spots are rare...to the point where most local people know precisely where they are, EVDO signal in most places.
Solid 1Mbps connection 95\% of the time.
2-3Mbps at least 50\% of the time.
Degrades gracefully to 1xRTT, with measured 140Kbps no matter where you are.
Atlanta to Athens, and up to the NC border, Verizon is rock solid for voice and data.
Well worth the premium paid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586313</id>
	<title>Re:And then the commercials</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246808640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Even as an owner of an iphone who knew what he was getting, Apple/ATT's commercials really get under my skin with their claims regarding the speed/capabilities of the phone. Of course, they get away with it with a 0.3 mS flash of text that informs us that the performance was artificially shortened.</p></div><p>
It doesn't bother you too much.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Even as an owner of an iphone who knew what he was getting</p></div><p>
You still gave them money and that's really why they get away with it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even as an owner of an iphone who knew what he was getting , Apple/ATT 's commercials really get under my skin with their claims regarding the speed/capabilities of the phone .
Of course , they get away with it with a 0.3 mS flash of text that informs us that the performance was artificially shortened .
It does n't bother you too much.Even as an owner of an iphone who knew what he was getting You still gave them money and that 's really why they get away with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even as an owner of an iphone who knew what he was getting, Apple/ATT's commercials really get under my skin with their claims regarding the speed/capabilities of the phone.
Of course, they get away with it with a 0.3 mS flash of text that informs us that the performance was artificially shortened.
It doesn't bother you too much.Even as an owner of an iphone who knew what he was getting
You still gave them money and that's really why they get away with it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586099</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586699</id>
	<title>Volunteer...</title>
	<author>Crimson Wing</author>
	<datestamp>1246813500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd be more than happy to test and compare the services here in my town, if someone will send me an iPhone, a Palm Pre, and whatever Verizon's top-of-the-line smartphone is.  The latter two will need to be pre-activated and provisioned, but I've got an AT&amp;T simcard already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be more than happy to test and compare the services here in my town , if someone will send me an iPhone , a Palm Pre , and whatever Verizon 's top-of-the-line smartphone is .
The latter two will need to be pre-activated and provisioned , but I 've got an AT&amp;T simcard already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be more than happy to test and compare the services here in my town, if someone will send me an iPhone, a Palm Pre, and whatever Verizon's top-of-the-line smartphone is.
The latter two will need to be pre-activated and provisioned, but I've got an AT&amp;T simcard already.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28592015</id>
	<title>Re:It's not the cities, it's the spaces in between</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246871760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Say what you will about the 19th century, but here in the <b> <i>21st</i> </b> century, I'm pretty sure the Europeans have us beat in terms of coverage.  And yes, they do have huge amounts of land mass too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Say what you will about the 19th century , but here in the 21st century , I 'm pretty sure the Europeans have us beat in terms of coverage .
And yes , they do have huge amounts of land mass too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Say what you will about the 19th century, but here in the  21st  century, I'm pretty sure the Europeans have us beat in terms of coverage.
And yes, they do have huge amounts of land mass too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586177</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_05_128213.28586661</id>
	<title>Re:Combination of AT&amp;T + NYC = screwed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246812900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's been true since 1999. Posting anonymously for obvious reasons, as I used to work for AT&amp;T.</p><p>Around the time they went back into the local market in '99, Verizon started making life very hard for AT&amp;T customers in New York by blocking access to Verizon cell towers.</p><p>Since Verizon has local utility rights on the rooftops, they get certain extra leeway in the coverage.</p><p>Put simply, you're never going to get good AT&amp;T coverage in New York as long as Verizon holds all the cards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's been true since 1999 .
Posting anonymously for obvious reasons , as I used to work for AT&amp;T.Around the time they went back into the local market in '99 , Verizon started making life very hard for AT&amp;T customers in New York by blocking access to Verizon cell towers.Since Verizon has local utility rights on the rooftops , they get certain extra leeway in the coverage.Put simply , you 're never going to get good AT&amp;T coverage in New York as long as Verizon holds all the cards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's been true since 1999.
Posting anonymously for obvious reasons, as I used to work for AT&amp;T.Around the time they went back into the local market in '99, Verizon started making life very hard for AT&amp;T customers in New York by blocking access to Verizon cell towers.Since Verizon has local utility rights on the rooftops, they get certain extra leeway in the coverage.Put simply, you're never going to get good AT&amp;T coverage in New York as long as Verizon holds all the cards.</sentencetext>
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