<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_04_1929239</id>
	<title>The Laptop, Circa 1968</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1246696080000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:harry@technologizer.com" rel="nofollow">Harry</a> writes <i>"In 1968, computers tended to occupy entire rooms, and were therefore hard to take with you. But Computerworld reports on <a href="http://technologizer.com/2009/07/04/the-laptop-circa-1968/">Anderson Jacobson's 75-pound Teletype-terminal-in-a-case</a>, an early attempt to let folks compute from anywhere. (Well, anywhere they had power and access to a telephone for the Teletype's acoustic coupler.) Wheels were optional."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Harry writes " In 1968 , computers tended to occupy entire rooms , and were therefore hard to take with you .
But Computerworld reports on Anderson Jacobson 's 75-pound Teletype-terminal-in-a-case , an early attempt to let folks compute from anywhere .
( Well , anywhere they had power and access to a telephone for the Teletype 's acoustic coupler .
) Wheels were optional .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Harry writes "In 1968, computers tended to occupy entire rooms, and were therefore hard to take with you.
But Computerworld reports on Anderson Jacobson's 75-pound Teletype-terminal-in-a-case, an early attempt to let folks compute from anywhere.
(Well, anywhere they had power and access to a telephone for the Teletype's acoustic coupler.
) Wheels were optional.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28583921</id>
	<title>Re:Once upon a time</title>
	<author>sensei moreh</author>
	<datestamp>1246720260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1968 is well before my use of a computer, but the first teletype-type terminal I used (1976) had a 110 baud modem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1968 is well before my use of a computer , but the first teletype-type terminal I used ( 1976 ) had a 110 baud modem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1968 is well before my use of a computer, but the first teletype-type terminal I used (1976) had a 110 baud modem.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582825</id>
	<title>I used one of these...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246704900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>...or something very similar.   I got my start in computing 40 years ago on a "portable" Teletype with an acoustic coupler, dialed into a GE timesharing system from home.  The teletype had a tape punch/reader, so I could write programs off-line.   I believe the modem ran at about 110 baud.  I programmed in BASIC--the real Kemeny and Kurtz variety, not the stripped-down variety that showed up 10 years later on the first personal computers.

(Yes, I'm a bit above the median age for slashdot readers.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>...or something very similar .
I got my start in computing 40 years ago on a " portable " Teletype with an acoustic coupler , dialed into a GE timesharing system from home .
The teletype had a tape punch/reader , so I could write programs off-line .
I believe the modem ran at about 110 baud .
I programmed in BASIC--the real Kemeny and Kurtz variety , not the stripped-down variety that showed up 10 years later on the first personal computers .
( Yes , I 'm a bit above the median age for slashdot readers .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...or something very similar.
I got my start in computing 40 years ago on a "portable" Teletype with an acoustic coupler, dialed into a GE timesharing system from home.
The teletype had a tape punch/reader, so I could write programs off-line.
I believe the modem ran at about 110 baud.
I programmed in BASIC--the real Kemeny and Kurtz variety, not the stripped-down variety that showed up 10 years later on the first personal computers.
(Yes, I'm a bit above the median age for slashdot readers.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28584085</id>
	<title>Re:I used one of these...</title>
	<author>kv9</author>
	<datestamp>1246722960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(Yes, I'm a bit above the median age for slashdot readers.)</p></div><p>I could have never guessed by your username...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( Yes , I 'm a bit above the median age for slashdot readers .
) I could have never guessed by your username.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(Yes, I'm a bit above the median age for slashdot readers.
)I could have never guessed by your username...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28585707</id>
	<title>Slow 300 Baud</title>
	<author>derspankster</author>
	<datestamp>1246798320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Took forever to download porn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Took forever to download porn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Took forever to download porn.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582897</id>
	<title>No display</title>
	<author>michaelmalak</author>
	<datestamp>1246705920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>For everyone out there who learned to use a computer after the late 1970's or so, a "Teletype", as this device is called, does not have a display.  All output is to a printer -- a character printer.  I am slightly amused at the stated despair over the need for a power plug and a landline.  How about that ream of paper you have to lug around?  (And if it's confidential information, I suppose also a trash bag.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>For everyone out there who learned to use a computer after the late 1970 's or so , a " Teletype " , as this device is called , does not have a display .
All output is to a printer -- a character printer .
I am slightly amused at the stated despair over the need for a power plug and a landline .
How about that ream of paper you have to lug around ?
( And if it 's confidential information , I suppose also a trash bag .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For everyone out there who learned to use a computer after the late 1970's or so, a "Teletype", as this device is called, does not have a display.
All output is to a printer -- a character printer.
I am slightly amused at the stated despair over the need for a power plug and a landline.
How about that ream of paper you have to lug around?
(And if it's confidential information, I suppose also a trash bag.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582627</id>
	<title>Re:Even back then...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246702740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>300 baud that's broadband go ask comcast</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>300 baud that 's broadband go ask comcast</tokentext>
<sentencetext>300 baud that's broadband go ask comcast</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582541</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28585183</id>
	<title>Re:1976 TI Silent 700 Terminal - $1995, 13 lbs.</title>
	<author>Radio\_active\_cgb</author>
	<datestamp>1246787160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not certain, but the Silent 700 may have been a terminal my dad brought home from work once or twice a week for about a year. At 300 baud, it was a good deal faster than the 110 baud "ticker tape" terminal we had been using previously.<br>

The silent 700 was very light, comparatively fast, and extremely quiet. For comparison, todays inkjet printers are just about as quiet. I was greatly impressed.<br>

To set the stage:<br>

As a 12 year old, I was used to working on model 33 teletypes as a member of a boy scout explorer post (post 599?) (GE/Honeywell in Phoenix, Arizona, about 1972). Punched cards were still common, but there were a few electronic 9600 baud terminals around and required special connections to the mainframes we were using. (Even at 12, I was a nerd, but there wasn't a name for people like us then.)<br>

The ticker tape machine printed text onto a carbonless 1/2 inch tall tape in a long, single line of text. (Think of a single line display.) It worked by having a hammer strike a spinning drum with type characters on its surface. It worked, but there was no possibility for formatted text spanning multiple lines (though you could cut the tape into pieces and scotch tape the pieces to form a page....), and it was extremely noisy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not certain , but the Silent 700 may have been a terminal my dad brought home from work once or twice a week for about a year .
At 300 baud , it was a good deal faster than the 110 baud " ticker tape " terminal we had been using previously .
The silent 700 was very light , comparatively fast , and extremely quiet .
For comparison , todays inkjet printers are just about as quiet .
I was greatly impressed .
To set the stage : As a 12 year old , I was used to working on model 33 teletypes as a member of a boy scout explorer post ( post 599 ?
) ( GE/Honeywell in Phoenix , Arizona , about 1972 ) .
Punched cards were still common , but there were a few electronic 9600 baud terminals around and required special connections to the mainframes we were using .
( Even at 12 , I was a nerd , but there was n't a name for people like us then .
) The ticker tape machine printed text onto a carbonless 1/2 inch tall tape in a long , single line of text .
( Think of a single line display .
) It worked by having a hammer strike a spinning drum with type characters on its surface .
It worked , but there was no possibility for formatted text spanning multiple lines ( though you could cut the tape into pieces and scotch tape the pieces to form a page.... ) , and it was extremely noisy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not certain, but the Silent 700 may have been a terminal my dad brought home from work once or twice a week for about a year.
At 300 baud, it was a good deal faster than the 110 baud "ticker tape" terminal we had been using previously.
The silent 700 was very light, comparatively fast, and extremely quiet.
For comparison, todays inkjet printers are just about as quiet.
I was greatly impressed.
To set the stage:

As a 12 year old, I was used to working on model 33 teletypes as a member of a boy scout explorer post (post 599?
) (GE/Honeywell in Phoenix, Arizona, about 1972).
Punched cards were still common, but there were a few electronic 9600 baud terminals around and required special connections to the mainframes we were using.
(Even at 12, I was a nerd, but there wasn't a name for people like us then.
)

The ticker tape machine printed text onto a carbonless 1/2 inch tall tape in a long, single line of text.
(Think of a single line display.
) It worked by having a hammer strike a spinning drum with type characters on its surface.
It worked, but there was no possibility for formatted text spanning multiple lines (though you could cut the tape into pieces and scotch tape the pieces to form a page....), and it was extremely noisy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582721</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28583107</id>
	<title>Video Display Printer</title>
	<author>Sponge Bath</author>
	<datestamp>1246708740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This section of the scanned Computerworld page was interesting:<br>"The new CC-310 Videoprinter is a CRT display printer for use with the..."</p><p>I had not heard that terminology before: CRT display printer. Welcome to the paperless society O\_o</p><p>The suit and hair are classic too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This section of the scanned Computerworld page was interesting : " The new CC-310 Videoprinter is a CRT display printer for use with the... " I had not heard that terminology before : CRT display printer .
Welcome to the paperless society O \ _oThe suit and hair are classic too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This section of the scanned Computerworld page was interesting:"The new CC-310 Videoprinter is a CRT display printer for use with the..."I had not heard that terminology before: CRT display printer.
Welcome to the paperless society O\_oThe suit and hair are classic too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28583255</id>
	<title>Re:CFLAGS</title>
	<author>ls671</author>
	<datestamp>1246710900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used:</p><p>export CFLAGS="-O2 -march=circa -pipe"<br>export CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=circa -pipe"<br>export CHOST="Teletype-circa"<br>export MAKEOPTS="-j0.01"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used : export CFLAGS = " -O2 -march = circa -pipe " export CXXFLAGS = " -O2 -march = circa -pipe " export CHOST = " Teletype-circa " export MAKEOPTS = " -j0.01 "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used:export CFLAGS="-O2 -march=circa -pipe"export CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=circa -pipe"export CHOST="Teletype-circa"export MAKEOPTS="-j0.01"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582675</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28583133</id>
	<title>Re:I used one of these...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246708980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Me too.  Programming: Fortran IV. I was about 12/13 and borrowed one from the University of British Columbia engineering department (where I worked weekends in the "computer room").</p><p>Totally freaked my parents out that I was talking to a machine a few miles away.  Come to think of it, they still don't quite get how they can type something in Canada and I see it in Spain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Me too .
Programming : Fortran IV .
I was about 12/13 and borrowed one from the University of British Columbia engineering department ( where I worked weekends in the " computer room " ) .Totally freaked my parents out that I was talking to a machine a few miles away .
Come to think of it , they still do n't quite get how they can type something in Canada and I see it in Spain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Me too.
Programming: Fortran IV.
I was about 12/13 and borrowed one from the University of British Columbia engineering department (where I worked weekends in the "computer room").Totally freaked my parents out that I was talking to a machine a few miles away.
Come to think of it, they still don't quite get how they can type something in Canada and I see it in Spain.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28585723</id>
	<title>Re:Once upon a time</title>
	<author>mikewelter</author>
	<datestamp>1246798560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except this beast was 110baud.  But time sharing systems in those days weren't much faster (IBM 1401 series, Honeywell 200 series, early IBM360).  It was a TTY33 in a case with wheels and an acoustic coupler (connecting wires to AT&amp;T's network in those days was strictly verboten).  It weighed about 90 pounds (or at least felt like 90 #).</p><p>The first 300baud units were lugable but used thermal paper on a roll.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except this beast was 110baud .
But time sharing systems in those days were n't much faster ( IBM 1401 series , Honeywell 200 series , early IBM360 ) .
It was a TTY33 in a case with wheels and an acoustic coupler ( connecting wires to AT&amp;T 's network in those days was strictly verboten ) .
It weighed about 90 pounds ( or at least felt like 90 # ) .The first 300baud units were lugable but used thermal paper on a roll .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except this beast was 110baud.
But time sharing systems in those days weren't much faster (IBM 1401 series, Honeywell 200 series, early IBM360).
It was a TTY33 in a case with wheels and an acoustic coupler (connecting wires to AT&amp;T's network in those days was strictly verboten).
It weighed about 90 pounds (or at least felt like 90 #).The first 300baud units were lugable but used thermal paper on a roll.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582427</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582625</id>
	<title>75 lbs Laptop?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246702680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Imagine a beowolf cluster of these!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine a beowolf cluster of these !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine a beowolf cluster of these!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582639</id>
	<title>Gotta Try It</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246702800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, I've got two ASR-33s in my garage.  I should try converting one into a portable!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , I 've got two ASR-33s in my garage .
I should try converting one into a portable !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, I've got two ASR-33s in my garage.
I should try converting one into a portable!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582583</id>
	<title>Re:Even back then...</title>
	<author>Mitchell314</author>
	<datestamp>1246702260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nah. 64 baud is all you'll ever need.<br>
<br>
- "But can they run asynchronous?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah .
64 baud is all you 'll ever need .
- " But can they run asynchronous ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah.
64 baud is all you'll ever need.
- "But can they run asynchronous?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582541</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28583077</id>
	<title>I used one of those</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1246708440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
We had one of those at Sperry Vickers (Troy, Michigan) in 1971, with the acoustic coupler in the wooden case.  Even then, it was on the way out; we were moving to Uniscope CRT terminals and  UNIVAC DCT 300 printers, connected to a UNIVAC 1108 computer.
</p><p>
Power was supplied to the modem as 120 VAC over otherwise-unused pins in the DB-25 connector from the Teletype Model 33 ASR.
</p><p>
Things were really clunky back then. We still had a full set of mechanical Remington Rand 90-column card gear, programmed by wiring up "connection boxes", mechanical plugboards which used flexible cables like bike brake cables to transmit data from input to output.  That, too, was on the way out, but it was still used for a few jobs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We had one of those at Sperry Vickers ( Troy , Michigan ) in 1971 , with the acoustic coupler in the wooden case .
Even then , it was on the way out ; we were moving to Uniscope CRT terminals and UNIVAC DCT 300 printers , connected to a UNIVAC 1108 computer .
Power was supplied to the modem as 120 VAC over otherwise-unused pins in the DB-25 connector from the Teletype Model 33 ASR .
Things were really clunky back then .
We still had a full set of mechanical Remington Rand 90-column card gear , programmed by wiring up " connection boxes " , mechanical plugboards which used flexible cables like bike brake cables to transmit data from input to output .
That , too , was on the way out , but it was still used for a few jobs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
We had one of those at Sperry Vickers (Troy, Michigan) in 1971, with the acoustic coupler in the wooden case.
Even then, it was on the way out; we were moving to Uniscope CRT terminals and  UNIVAC DCT 300 printers, connected to a UNIVAC 1108 computer.
Power was supplied to the modem as 120 VAC over otherwise-unused pins in the DB-25 connector from the Teletype Model 33 ASR.
Things were really clunky back then.
We still had a full set of mechanical Remington Rand 90-column card gear, programmed by wiring up "connection boxes", mechanical plugboards which used flexible cables like bike brake cables to transmit data from input to output.
That, too, was on the way out, but it was still used for a few jobs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28583603</id>
	<title>Re:Once upon a time</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1246715100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Just for comparison, 300 baud is so slow that you can read the text faster than it downloads.</p></div></blockquote><p>Bullshit. That's 300 characters per second, or more than three 80-column lines per second.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just for comparison , 300 baud is so slow that you can read the text faster than it downloads.Bullshit .
That 's 300 characters per second , or more than three 80-column lines per second .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just for comparison, 300 baud is so slow that you can read the text faster than it downloads.Bullshit.
That's 300 characters per second, or more than three 80-column lines per second.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582427</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28590567</id>
	<title>IBM 5100 and well travelled computers</title>
	<author>stephows</author>
	<datestamp>1246811100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't forget the IBM 5100 portable computer in 1975.
Or the Apollo guidance computer - surely a contender for the most  travelled computer of the 1960's.
Or the Voyager computer - surely the most travelled computer ever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget the IBM 5100 portable computer in 1975 .
Or the Apollo guidance computer - surely a contender for the most travelled computer of the 1960 's .
Or the Voyager computer - surely the most travelled computer ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget the IBM 5100 portable computer in 1975.
Or the Apollo guidance computer - surely a contender for the most  travelled computer of the 1960's.
Or the Voyager computer - surely the most travelled computer ever.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28588795</id>
	<title>Antikythera</title>
	<author>findoutmoretoday</author>
	<datestamp>1246790100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>In 100bc the greeks had a laptop size computer,&nbsp; that did bigger and better things than my computer, posting on slashdot.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>In 100bc the greeks had a laptop size computer ,   that did bigger and better things than my computer , posting on slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In 100bc the greeks had a laptop size computer,  that did bigger and better things than my computer, posting on slashdot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582399</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28585373</id>
	<title>Mobile computer, internet, server...</title>
	<author>V!NCENT</author>
	<datestamp>1246790700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds to me like cloud computing.</p><p>History does repeat itself hehe...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds to me like cloud computing.History does repeat itself hehe.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds to me like cloud computing.History does repeat itself hehe...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582647</id>
	<title>Re:How is this a laptop?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246702920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This only goes to show that obesity levels have gone up since the late sixties, what was a bulky device back then will actually fit quite comfortably on current laps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This only goes to show that obesity levels have gone up since the late sixties , what was a bulky device back then will actually fit quite comfortably on current laps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This only goes to show that obesity levels have gone up since the late sixties, what was a bulky device back then will actually fit quite comfortably on current laps.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28596233</id>
	<title>TI Silent 700</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1246903320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I taught myself to program on a machine of practically the same vintage. Starting in about '73, my Dad used to lug home a TI Silent 700, and a couple of rolls of thermal paper, for my computing needs every weekend (with timesharing on a CDC machine at Bell Labs, where he was a Department Head). I don't know about 70lbs, but it was a pretty substantial suitcase, probably a good 25-30 lbs or more. And it hooked right into a phone, but of course, you had to have a Bell Standard handset, not a touchtone... they wouldn't fit the suction cups. I think the first Silent 700 came out in around 1970...</p><p>A few years into this, he switched me over to a compact version of the Silent 700... much smaller body, with exposed "suction cups" on the top, rather than in the body as before. That was only around 15lbs, I would guess.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I taught myself to program on a machine of practically the same vintage .
Starting in about '73 , my Dad used to lug home a TI Silent 700 , and a couple of rolls of thermal paper , for my computing needs every weekend ( with timesharing on a CDC machine at Bell Labs , where he was a Department Head ) .
I do n't know about 70lbs , but it was a pretty substantial suitcase , probably a good 25-30 lbs or more .
And it hooked right into a phone , but of course , you had to have a Bell Standard handset , not a touchtone... they would n't fit the suction cups .
I think the first Silent 700 came out in around 1970...A few years into this , he switched me over to a compact version of the Silent 700... much smaller body , with exposed " suction cups " on the top , rather than in the body as before .
That was only around 15lbs , I would guess .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I taught myself to program on a machine of practically the same vintage.
Starting in about '73, my Dad used to lug home a TI Silent 700, and a couple of rolls of thermal paper, for my computing needs every weekend (with timesharing on a CDC machine at Bell Labs, where he was a Department Head).
I don't know about 70lbs, but it was a pretty substantial suitcase, probably a good 25-30 lbs or more.
And it hooked right into a phone, but of course, you had to have a Bell Standard handset, not a touchtone... they wouldn't fit the suction cups.
I think the first Silent 700 came out in around 1970...A few years into this, he switched me over to a compact version of the Silent 700... much smaller body, with exposed "suction cups" on the top, rather than in the body as before.
That was only around 15lbs, I would guess.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28598871</id>
	<title>"the laptop circa 1968"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246871280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The use of laptop to imply computer is a misnomer.</p><p>The teletype 'computer' is not in fact a computer at all - just a dumb terminal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The use of laptop to imply computer is a misnomer.The teletype 'computer ' is not in fact a computer at all - just a dumb terminal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The use of laptop to imply computer is a misnomer.The teletype 'computer' is not in fact a computer at all - just a dumb terminal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582721</id>
	<title>1976 TI Silent 700 Terminal  - $1995, 13 lbs.</title>
	<author>theodp</author>
	<datestamp>1246703700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/Texas\_Instruments/TI.Silent700.1976.102646198.pdf" title="computerhistory.org">TI Silent 700 Ad</a> [computerhistory.org]: See how much progress was made in 8 years?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TI Silent 700 Ad [ computerhistory.org ] : See how much progress was made in 8 years ?
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TI Silent 700 Ad [computerhistory.org]: See how much progress was made in 8 years?
:-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582843</id>
	<title>Re:How is this a laptop?</title>
	<author>hedwards</author>
	<datestamp>1246705080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, technically, any man that uses a laptop on their lap is going to have issues with future fertility.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , technically , any man that uses a laptop on their lap is going to have issues with future fertility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, technically, any man that uses a laptop on their lap is going to have issues with future fertility.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28583015</id>
	<title>Dynabook</title>
	<author>jipn4</author>
	<datestamp>1246707180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alan Kay imagined the Dynabook in 1968.  Have a look here:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynabook" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynabook</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>It was to be programmed in Smalltalk, which Kay created over the next few years.</p><p>Smalltalk what Objective-C and Cocoa were modeled on.  However, even Smalltalk-80 (as in 1980) was more advanced in many ways than Objective-C and Cocoa are in 2009.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alan Kay imagined the Dynabook in 1968 .
Have a look here : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynabook [ wikipedia.org ] It was to be programmed in Smalltalk , which Kay created over the next few years.Smalltalk what Objective-C and Cocoa were modeled on .
However , even Smalltalk-80 ( as in 1980 ) was more advanced in many ways than Objective-C and Cocoa are in 2009 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alan Kay imagined the Dynabook in 1968.
Have a look here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynabook [wikipedia.org]It was to be programmed in Smalltalk, which Kay created over the next few years.Smalltalk what Objective-C and Cocoa were modeled on.
However, even Smalltalk-80 (as in 1980) was more advanced in many ways than Objective-C and Cocoa are in 2009.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28583089</id>
	<title>Re:Once upon a time</title>
	<author>Fishchip</author>
	<datestamp>1246708560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>9 baud...?<br> <br>

I have a teletype machine on my ship that we still use when things go south. Its minimum setting, if I remember correctly, is 30 baud. We usually use it at 75. Yes, there are still some current applications of 75 baud.</htmltext>
<tokenext>9 baud... ?
I have a teletype machine on my ship that we still use when things go south .
Its minimum setting , if I remember correctly , is 30 baud .
We usually use it at 75 .
Yes , there are still some current applications of 75 baud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>9 baud...?
I have a teletype machine on my ship that we still use when things go south.
Its minimum setting, if I remember correctly, is 30 baud.
We usually use it at 75.
Yes, there are still some current applications of 75 baud.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28583537</id>
	<title>That's not a computer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246714140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>more like a telegraph that doesn't require you to learn Morse.<br>Feh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>more like a telegraph that does n't require you to learn Morse.Feh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>more like a telegraph that doesn't require you to learn Morse.Feh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582427</id>
	<title>Once upon a time</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1246700460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Once I was talking to my grandpa about old computers, and I mentioned that my C64 had a slow 300 baud modem.  He used to work on these mainframes, and he came right back and said, "the first modem I had was 9 baud."  The article doesn't say how fast their modem is, but from the picture 9 baud is about right.<br> <br>
Just for comparison, 300 baud is so slow that you can read the text faster than it downloads.  That teletype is honestly not the most convenient device.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Once I was talking to my grandpa about old computers , and I mentioned that my C64 had a slow 300 baud modem .
He used to work on these mainframes , and he came right back and said , " the first modem I had was 9 baud .
" The article does n't say how fast their modem is , but from the picture 9 baud is about right .
Just for comparison , 300 baud is so slow that you can read the text faster than it downloads .
That teletype is honestly not the most convenient device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once I was talking to my grandpa about old computers, and I mentioned that my C64 had a slow 300 baud modem.
He used to work on these mainframes, and he came right back and said, "the first modem I had was 9 baud.
"  The article doesn't say how fast their modem is, but from the picture 9 baud is about right.
Just for comparison, 300 baud is so slow that you can read the text faster than it downloads.
That teletype is honestly not the most convenient device.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28584727</id>
	<title>Re:Once upon a time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246734600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>grandpa 1-0</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>grandpa 1-0</tokentext>
<sentencetext>grandpa 1-0</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28584683</id>
	<title>Re:Once upon a time</title>
	<author>lpress</author>
	<datestamp>1246733460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; The article doesn't say how fast their modem is
<p>
It was 10 characters or 110 bits per second.  You could read a lot faster than it could print and it only did upper case.
</p><p>
The Teletype was fully mechanical, so you could really understand how it worked and even repair it yourself.  They sold cool, reasonably priced tool kits and parts were available.
</p><p>
Anderson Jacobson just packaged a standard Teletype with an accoustical coupler in a huge fiberglass case with casters.  I had one of those and got four fixed units on stands to install in the public library in Venice, CA.  Teletypes were common timesharing terminals -- we had a room full of them at SDC that were tied into the Q-32 timesharing system.
</p><p>
Larry</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; The article does n't say how fast their modem is It was 10 characters or 110 bits per second .
You could read a lot faster than it could print and it only did upper case .
The Teletype was fully mechanical , so you could really understand how it worked and even repair it yourself .
They sold cool , reasonably priced tool kits and parts were available .
Anderson Jacobson just packaged a standard Teletype with an accoustical coupler in a huge fiberglass case with casters .
I had one of those and got four fixed units on stands to install in the public library in Venice , CA .
Teletypes were common timesharing terminals -- we had a room full of them at SDC that were tied into the Q-32 timesharing system .
Larry</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; The article doesn't say how fast their modem is

It was 10 characters or 110 bits per second.
You could read a lot faster than it could print and it only did upper case.
The Teletype was fully mechanical, so you could really understand how it worked and even repair it yourself.
They sold cool, reasonably priced tool kits and parts were available.
Anderson Jacobson just packaged a standard Teletype with an accoustical coupler in a huge fiberglass case with casters.
I had one of those and got four fixed units on stands to install in the public library in Venice, CA.
Teletypes were common timesharing terminals -- we had a room full of them at SDC that were tied into the Q-32 timesharing system.
Larry</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28584605</id>
	<title>USAF reliability efforts.</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1246731960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
From the mid-1960s to the mid-1980s, the USAF put a huge amount of effort into making electronics more reliable, with considerable success.  One of their more interesting efforts involved marking a few percent of the Air Force's inventory of electronics boxes with a sticker instructing users that the unit was part of the USAF's Reliability Program, and if it broke, it was to be replaced as a unit, not fixed in the field. The broken unit was to be sent back to a lab (at Wright-Patterson AFB, I think) for analysis.
</p><p>
At the lab, the unit was tested and the failing component(s) found. The, <i>the failing component was disassembled and analyzed.</i> This involved opening up transistor cans and looking at the component under a microscope, and if necessary, an electron microscope.  The USAF was trying to understand why components failed in the field.  Did a "hermetic" seal leak?  Was a bonding wire badly soldered to a pad?  Was something mispositioned?  Was the transistor substrate damaged?
</p><p>
Results were published in Aviation Week.  With enlarged pictures of the defect.  Part numbers and names of vendors were given.  The USAF deliberately did this to apply pain to vendors.
</p><p>
Over time, parts got <i>much</i> better.   By the 1980s, though, the USAF wasn't buying a big enough fraction of the output of the electronics industry to get much attention, much to the annoyance of senior USAF types.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the mid-1960s to the mid-1980s , the USAF put a huge amount of effort into making electronics more reliable , with considerable success .
One of their more interesting efforts involved marking a few percent of the Air Force 's inventory of electronics boxes with a sticker instructing users that the unit was part of the USAF 's Reliability Program , and if it broke , it was to be replaced as a unit , not fixed in the field .
The broken unit was to be sent back to a lab ( at Wright-Patterson AFB , I think ) for analysis .
At the lab , the unit was tested and the failing component ( s ) found .
The , the failing component was disassembled and analyzed .
This involved opening up transistor cans and looking at the component under a microscope , and if necessary , an electron microscope .
The USAF was trying to understand why components failed in the field .
Did a " hermetic " seal leak ?
Was a bonding wire badly soldered to a pad ?
Was something mispositioned ?
Was the transistor substrate damaged ?
Results were published in Aviation Week .
With enlarged pictures of the defect .
Part numbers and names of vendors were given .
The USAF deliberately did this to apply pain to vendors .
Over time , parts got much better .
By the 1980s , though , the USAF was n't buying a big enough fraction of the output of the electronics industry to get much attention , much to the annoyance of senior USAF types .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
From the mid-1960s to the mid-1980s, the USAF put a huge amount of effort into making electronics more reliable, with considerable success.
One of their more interesting efforts involved marking a few percent of the Air Force's inventory of electronics boxes with a sticker instructing users that the unit was part of the USAF's Reliability Program, and if it broke, it was to be replaced as a unit, not fixed in the field.
The broken unit was to be sent back to a lab (at Wright-Patterson AFB, I think) for analysis.
At the lab, the unit was tested and the failing component(s) found.
The, the failing component was disassembled and analyzed.
This involved opening up transistor cans and looking at the component under a microscope, and if necessary, an electron microscope.
The USAF was trying to understand why components failed in the field.
Did a "hermetic" seal leak?
Was a bonding wire badly soldered to a pad?
Was something mispositioned?
Was the transistor substrate damaged?
Results were published in Aviation Week.
With enlarged pictures of the defect.
Part numbers and names of vendors were given.
The USAF deliberately did this to apply pain to vendors.
Over time, parts got much better.
By the 1980s, though, the USAF wasn't buying a big enough fraction of the output of the electronics industry to get much attention, much to the annoyance of senior USAF types.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582783</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582469</id>
	<title>How is this a laptop?</title>
	<author>Ryiah</author>
	<datestamp>1246700700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Aren't they stretching things calling this a laptop? Certainly its portable but it can't be easy to port this. I've had Sun monitors that weighed less than this. No way I'd be putting this on my lap. It isn't battery powered either. Some additional information is at this site with some additional information and pictures - <a href="http://www.pdp8.net/asr33/asr33.shtml" title="pdp8.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.pdp8.net/asr33/asr33.shtml</a> [pdp8.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are n't they stretching things calling this a laptop ?
Certainly its portable but it ca n't be easy to port this .
I 've had Sun monitors that weighed less than this .
No way I 'd be putting this on my lap .
It is n't battery powered either .
Some additional information is at this site with some additional information and pictures - http : //www.pdp8.net/asr33/asr33.shtml [ pdp8.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aren't they stretching things calling this a laptop?
Certainly its portable but it can't be easy to port this.
I've had Sun monitors that weighed less than this.
No way I'd be putting this on my lap.
It isn't battery powered either.
Some additional information is at this site with some additional information and pictures - http://www.pdp8.net/asr33/asr33.shtml [pdp8.net]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28585345</id>
	<title>Re:Once upon a time</title>
	<author>SlashWombat</author>
	<datestamp>1246790280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Once I was talking to my grandpa about old computers, and I mentioned that my C64 had a slow 300 baud modem. He used to work on these mainframes, and he came right back and said, "the first modem I had was 9 baud."</p></div><p>I reckon your Grandpa was pulling your leg<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... 50 baud modems have been around since before WW II. This was used by/for real teletype machines. (like creed, or Model 45 teletype machines) That certainly predates any computer usage.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Once I was talking to my grandpa about old computers , and I mentioned that my C64 had a slow 300 baud modem .
He used to work on these mainframes , and he came right back and said , " the first modem I had was 9 baud .
" I reckon your Grandpa was pulling your leg ... 50 baud modems have been around since before WW II .
This was used by/for real teletype machines .
( like creed , or Model 45 teletype machines ) That certainly predates any computer usage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once I was talking to my grandpa about old computers, and I mentioned that my C64 had a slow 300 baud modem.
He used to work on these mainframes, and he came right back and said, "the first modem I had was 9 baud.
"I reckon your Grandpa was pulling your leg ... 50 baud modems have been around since before WW II.
This was used by/for real teletype machines.
(like creed, or Model 45 teletype machines) That certainly predates any computer usage.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28595653</id>
	<title>That guy is RIPPED!</title>
	<author>motherpusbucket</author>
	<datestamp>1246901040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Either that case is empty or the guy in the picture is ripped. <br>
He looks way to comfortable lugging that thing around.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Either that case is empty or the guy in the picture is ripped .
He looks way to comfortable lugging that thing around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Either that case is empty or the guy in the picture is ripped.
He looks way to comfortable lugging that thing around.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28586293</id>
	<title>I have used a Teletype ASR-33</title>
	<author>pesc</author>
	<datestamp>1246808220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The cool thing about it is that except for the modem, the device is mechanical, not electronic. You could connect a RS-232 (serial) cable and send/receive 110 baud data. And the teletype would encode/decode the signals purely mechanically, using rotating wheels. Amazing!</p><p>This also included the paper tape punch/reader. You could write your entire program off-line to a paper tape. The you would connect and run the tape through the reader. This would allow you to enter the entire program fast, minimizing your expensive on-line time.</p><p>If you pressed a key on the keyboard all other keys would lock until the character was sent. If you typed too fast, you could hurt your fingers!</p><p>I'd like to have one. They were noisy though...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The cool thing about it is that except for the modem , the device is mechanical , not electronic .
You could connect a RS-232 ( serial ) cable and send/receive 110 baud data .
And the teletype would encode/decode the signals purely mechanically , using rotating wheels .
Amazing ! This also included the paper tape punch/reader .
You could write your entire program off-line to a paper tape .
The you would connect and run the tape through the reader .
This would allow you to enter the entire program fast , minimizing your expensive on-line time.If you pressed a key on the keyboard all other keys would lock until the character was sent .
If you typed too fast , you could hurt your fingers ! I 'd like to have one .
They were noisy though.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cool thing about it is that except for the modem, the device is mechanical, not electronic.
You could connect a RS-232 (serial) cable and send/receive 110 baud data.
And the teletype would encode/decode the signals purely mechanically, using rotating wheels.
Amazing!This also included the paper tape punch/reader.
You could write your entire program off-line to a paper tape.
The you would connect and run the tape through the reader.
This would allow you to enter the entire program fast, minimizing your expensive on-line time.If you pressed a key on the keyboard all other keys would lock until the character was sent.
If you typed too fast, you could hurt your fingers!I'd like to have one.
They were noisy though...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582687</id>
	<title>Re:Once upon a time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246703280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An ASR-33 is 110 baud.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An ASR-33 is 110 baud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An ASR-33 is 110 baud.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582541</id>
	<title>Even back then...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246701420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Can't wait till they come out with the 300 baud version"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Ca n't wait till they come out with the 300 baud version "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Can't wait till they come out with the 300 baud version"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28584973</id>
	<title>Re:The true first portable modern computer...</title>
	<author>NixieBunny</author>
	<datestamp>1246825800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tee hee. My dad used one of these for astronomy computations - they gave a bunch of them to universities in the early seventies, as they were hopelessly obsolete by then. And he used a teletype. <a href="http://www.nixiebunny.com/datareduction.jpg" title="nixiebunny.com">Here's a photo</a> [nixiebunny.com] of another common computer he used, the Nova.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tee hee .
My dad used one of these for astronomy computations - they gave a bunch of them to universities in the early seventies , as they were hopelessly obsolete by then .
And he used a teletype .
Here 's a photo [ nixiebunny.com ] of another common computer he used , the Nova .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tee hee.
My dad used one of these for astronomy computations - they gave a bunch of them to universities in the early seventies, as they were hopelessly obsolete by then.
And he used a teletype.
Here's a photo [nixiebunny.com] of another common computer he used, the Nova.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582783</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582509</id>
	<title>Re:How is this a laptop?</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1246701240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They don't really call it a laptop, they use 'laptop' to draw a comparison between the somewhat portable teletype and modern portable computers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't really call it a laptop , they use 'laptop ' to draw a comparison between the somewhat portable teletype and modern portable computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't really call it a laptop, they use 'laptop' to draw a comparison between the somewhat portable teletype and modern portable computers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582469</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28584847</id>
	<title>Ahhh. I had one of these</title>
	<author>Douglas Goodall</author>
	<datestamp>1246736640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I rented one of these in 1973 while I was in the Navy so I could access the ARPA network via the TIP at fleet weather central on the baser at NAS NORVA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I rented one of these in 1973 while I was in the Navy so I could access the ARPA network via the TIP at fleet weather central on the baser at NAS NORVA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I rented one of these in 1973 while I was in the Navy so I could access the ARPA network via the TIP at fleet weather central on the baser at NAS NORVA.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28596281</id>
	<title>Re:1976 TI Silent 700 Terminal - $1995, 13 lbs.</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1246903500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, that's the down-sized model... the original came out in 1970 or so, and while it wasn't any 70lbs monster, it was pretty substantial, at least 25-30lbs. I learned programming on one of these; it was some years before my Dad started bringing home the smaller version for my weekend hacking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , that 's the down-sized model... the original came out in 1970 or so , and while it was n't any 70lbs monster , it was pretty substantial , at least 25-30lbs .
I learned programming on one of these ; it was some years before my Dad started bringing home the smaller version for my weekend hacking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, that's the down-sized model... the original came out in 1970 or so, and while it wasn't any 70lbs monster, it was pretty substantial, at least 25-30lbs.
I learned programming on one of these; it was some years before my Dad started bringing home the smaller version for my weekend hacking.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582721</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28583455</id>
	<title>Slashdvertizement!</title>
	<author>snikulin</author>
	<datestamp>1246713240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shame on you, astroturfers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shame on you , astroturfers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shame on you, astroturfers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582783</id>
	<title>The true first portable modern computer...</title>
	<author>galaad2</author>
	<datestamp>1246704360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>However, the true* first portable computer began its early development in 1956, got approved in 1958 and entered active service in 1962: (*=The one that melts your face off)</p><p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/05/tob\_minuteman\_1/print.html" title="theregister.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/05/tob\_minuteman\_1/print.html</a> [theregister.co.uk]</p><p>quote from TFA:</p><p>the American government was already rocking a line of cutting-edge portable computers that -- had they only been more widely released -- would have melted any tech lover's heart. And their face. And probably most everything within a mile radius.</p><p>We're speaking, of course, of the first-ever guidance system baked into the US Minuteman 1 nuclear missile. Maximum portability: about 9,700 km (6,000 mi). Target demographic: Commies.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>However , the true * first portable computer began its early development in 1956 , got approved in 1958 and entered active service in 1962 : ( * = The one that melts your face off ) http : //www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/05/tob \ _minuteman \ _1/print.html [ theregister.co.uk ] quote from TFA : the American government was already rocking a line of cutting-edge portable computers that -- had they only been more widely released -- would have melted any tech lover 's heart .
And their face .
And probably most everything within a mile radius.We 're speaking , of course , of the first-ever guidance system baked into the US Minuteman 1 nuclear missile .
Maximum portability : about 9,700 km ( 6,000 mi ) .
Target demographic : Commies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>However, the true* first portable computer began its early development in 1956, got approved in 1958 and entered active service in 1962: (*=The one that melts your face off)http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/05/tob\_minuteman\_1/print.html [theregister.co.uk]quote from TFA:the American government was already rocking a line of cutting-edge portable computers that -- had they only been more widely released -- would have melted any tech lover's heart.
And their face.
And probably most everything within a mile radius.We're speaking, of course, of the first-ever guidance system baked into the US Minuteman 1 nuclear missile.
Maximum portability: about 9,700 km (6,000 mi).
Target demographic: Commies.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28587353</id>
	<title>Re:Once upon a time</title>
	<author>rasper99</author>
	<datestamp>1246820220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The ASR 33 terminal in the article was 110 baud.  If it's all you have you at the time you deal with it.  I just hit the preview button.  Considering the number of characters I had typed and the time it took to preview that was about 110 baud.  So what has all this new stuff gained for us?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The ASR 33 terminal in the article was 110 baud .
If it 's all you have you at the time you deal with it .
I just hit the preview button .
Considering the number of characters I had typed and the time it took to preview that was about 110 baud .
So what has all this new stuff gained for us ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ASR 33 terminal in the article was 110 baud.
If it's all you have you at the time you deal with it.
I just hit the preview button.
Considering the number of characters I had typed and the time it took to preview that was about 110 baud.
So what has all this new stuff gained for us?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582427</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582817</id>
	<title>Spinal Tap Stonehenge prop inversion</title>
	<author>hoarier</author>
	<datestamp>1246704780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For me anything bigger than 13' isn't portable, but "transportable".</p></div><p>Thirteen feet?! Sheesh, for me anything bigger than 13 feet isn't "transportable" but bloody enormous.</p><p>Incidentally, the fact about 2009 that might have most surprised by short-trousered self circa 1968 is the ubiquity of <strong>inches</strong>. It's not just the Burmese, the Liberians aind the Youessians who're talking about "13 inch screens", "1200 dpi" and so forth these days. it's (for example) Yodobashi Camera hawking consumer durables to people in Tokyo. Can we please go back to the 1968 future of SI?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For me anything bigger than 13 ' is n't portable , but " transportable " .Thirteen feet ? !
Sheesh , for me anything bigger than 13 feet is n't " transportable " but bloody enormous.Incidentally , the fact about 2009 that might have most surprised by short-trousered self circa 1968 is the ubiquity of inches .
It 's not just the Burmese , the Liberians aind the Youessians who 're talking about " 13 inch screens " , " 1200 dpi " and so forth these days .
it 's ( for example ) Yodobashi Camera hawking consumer durables to people in Tokyo .
Can we please go back to the 1968 future of SI ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For me anything bigger than 13' isn't portable, but "transportable".Thirteen feet?!
Sheesh, for me anything bigger than 13 feet isn't "transportable" but bloody enormous.Incidentally, the fact about 2009 that might have most surprised by short-trousered self circa 1968 is the ubiquity of inches.
It's not just the Burmese, the Liberians aind the Youessians who're talking about "13 inch screens", "1200 dpi" and so forth these days.
it's (for example) Yodobashi Camera hawking consumer durables to people in Tokyo.
Can we please go back to the 1968 future of SI?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582447</id>
	<title>HappyBirthday America, Candida, and Mexico</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246700580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It year older today Happy Birdthday</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It year older today Happy Birdthday</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It year older today Happy Birdthday</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582675</id>
	<title>CFLAGS</title>
	<author>biduxe</author>
	<datestamp>1246703160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have anyone installed gentoo on it? I would like which CFLAGS to use whit it so to have lightning fast system.</p><p>BTW Anyone had compiz running on it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have anyone installed gentoo on it ?
I would like which CFLAGS to use whit it so to have lightning fast system.BTW Anyone had compiz running on it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have anyone installed gentoo on it?
I would like which CFLAGS to use whit it so to have lightning fast system.BTW Anyone had compiz running on it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582629</id>
	<title>Portables vs. Transportables</title>
	<author>alewar</author>
	<datestamp>1246702740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>For me anything bigger than 13' isn't portable, but "transportable".</htmltext>
<tokenext>For me anything bigger than 13 ' is n't portable , but " transportable " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For me anything bigger than 13' isn't portable, but "transportable".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582651</id>
	<title>Re:Aristotle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246702920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Instead of making things smaller, we nerds could have built relationships with jocks, but no, we chose the easy way out. So much for human relations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead of making things smaller , we nerds could have built relationships with jocks , but no , we chose the easy way out .
So much for human relations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead of making things smaller, we nerds could have built relationships with jocks, but no, we chose the easy way out.
So much for human relations.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582399</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_04_1929239.28582399</id>
	<title>Aristotle</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1246700220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even Aristotle commented 2300 years ago, about how men and things were always purported to be bigger and better in the distant past.

It really seems that geeks must have been much bigger and stronger in 1968.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even Aristotle commented 2300 years ago , about how men and things were always purported to be bigger and better in the distant past .
It really seems that geeks must have been much bigger and stronger in 1968 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even Aristotle commented 2300 years ago, about how men and things were always purported to be bigger and better in the distant past.
It really seems that geeks must have been much bigger and stronger in 1968.</sentencetext>
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