<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_27_2118232</id>
	<title>DARPA Wants a 19"  Super-Efficient Supercomputer</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1246095600000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:mcooney@nww.com" rel="nofollow">coondoggie</a> writes <i>"If you can squish all the processing power of, say, an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM\_Roadrunner">IBM Roadrunner</a> supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity,
<a href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/43073">the government wants to talk to you</a>. The extreme scientists at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency this week issued a call for research that might develop a super-small, super-efficient super beast of a computer. Specifically, DARPA's desires for Ubiquitous High Performance Computing (UHPC) will require a new system-wide technology approach including hardware and software co-design to minimize energy dissipation per operation and maximize energy efficiency, with a 50GFLOPS per watt goal."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>coondoggie writes " If you can squish all the processing power of , say , an IBM Roadrunner supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity , the government wants to talk to you .
The extreme scientists at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency this week issued a call for research that might develop a super-small , super-efficient super beast of a computer .
Specifically , DARPA 's desires for Ubiquitous High Performance Computing ( UHPC ) will require a new system-wide technology approach including hardware and software co-design to minimize energy dissipation per operation and maximize energy efficiency , with a 50GFLOPS per watt goal .
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<sentencetext>coondoggie writes "If you can squish all the processing power of, say, an IBM Roadrunner supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity,
the government wants to talk to you.
The extreme scientists at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency this week issued a call for research that might develop a super-small, super-efficient super beast of a computer.
Specifically, DARPA's desires for Ubiquitous High Performance Computing (UHPC) will require a new system-wide technology approach including hardware and software co-design to minimize energy dissipation per operation and maximize energy efficiency, with a 50GFLOPS per watt goal.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498913</id>
	<title>BEOWULF!</title>
	<author>dandart</author>
	<datestamp>1246106760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>But will it run Crysis?

But in all seriousness, BEOWULF OF DSs!</htmltext>
<tokenext>But will it run Crysis ?
But in all seriousness , BEOWULF OF DSs !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But will it run Crysis?
But in all seriousness, BEOWULF OF DSs!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498693</id>
	<title>Re:57KW air-cooled 19" Rack?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246104480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IANAP, but... how much of that 15kw is used locally in processing though, versus transmitted as energy/signals to another network node?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IANAP , but... how much of that 15kw is used locally in processing though , versus transmitted as energy/signals to another network node ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IANAP, but... how much of that 15kw is used locally in processing though, versus transmitted as energy/signals to another network node?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28502645</id>
	<title>Re:Yeah sure</title>
	<author>gtall</author>
	<datestamp>1246193100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, in your opinion, the entire government is devoted to unloving and unprotecting your freediom, eh? How about the NSTA, the fellows who investigate transportation accidents? They are taking away your right to freely die due to a repeat error. How about the Coast Guard? They'll be taking away your ability to  completely die due to operator stupidity. Errr...NSF...taking away your rights to no money for science. NIH...clearly out to fund medical research allowing you to die without a remedy to stop it. FDA...stopping you from taking those 'cures' which Jim Bob's Drug and Beanery has been producing for your ailments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , in your opinion , the entire government is devoted to unloving and unprotecting your freediom , eh ?
How about the NSTA , the fellows who investigate transportation accidents ?
They are taking away your right to freely die due to a repeat error .
How about the Coast Guard ?
They 'll be taking away your ability to completely die due to operator stupidity .
Errr...NSF...taking away your rights to no money for science .
NIH...clearly out to fund medical research allowing you to die without a remedy to stop it .
FDA...stopping you from taking those 'cures ' which Jim Bob 's Drug and Beanery has been producing for your ailments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, in your opinion, the entire government is devoted to unloving and unprotecting your freediom, eh?
How about the NSTA, the fellows who investigate transportation accidents?
They are taking away your right to freely die due to a repeat error.
How about the Coast Guard?
They'll be taking away your ability to  completely die due to operator stupidity.
Errr...NSF...taking away your rights to no money for science.
NIH...clearly out to fund medical research allowing you to die without a remedy to stop it.
FDA...stopping you from taking those 'cures' which Jim Bob's Drug and Beanery has been producing for your ailments.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28500337</id>
	<title>try this</title>
	<author>GarretSidzaka</author>
	<datestamp>1246118520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>see how many intel atoms you can cram into a back pack!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>see how many intel atoms you can cram into a back pack ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>see how many intel atoms you can cram into a back pack!!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498037</id>
	<title>Yeah sure</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246099380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If you can squish all the processing power of, say, an IBM Roadrunner supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity, the government wants to talk to you.</p></div></blockquote><p>
And just as soon as they go back to loving and protecting freedom, then and only then will the government deserve my help with anything.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can squish all the processing power of , say , an IBM Roadrunner supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity , the government wants to talk to you .
And just as soon as they go back to loving and protecting freedom , then and only then will the government deserve my help with anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can squish all the processing power of, say, an IBM Roadrunner supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity, the government wants to talk to you.
And just as soon as they go back to loving and protecting freedom, then and only then will the government deserve my help with anything.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498813</id>
	<title>Re:Could at least editors have a look at TFA?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246105500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The editors simply copied the first line of TFA.<br>Maybe you should write the author and complain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The editors simply copied the first line of TFA.Maybe you should write the author and complain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The editors simply copied the first line of TFA.Maybe you should write the author and complain.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498089</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498627</id>
	<title>What's it going to be used for? An idea..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246104000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looking at the general specs, it basically needs to be small, have low power consumption, and be programmable by current means - no special programming ability. If it were to be used here in the States, why the size and power consumption limitations?  Why not allow for specialized programming? It's almost as if they need something that will be able to be used and maintained by a typical military technical grunt out in the field. As if it would be put in a back of a truck and run on a gas powered or solar generator.</p><p>Just putting that out there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking at the general specs , it basically needs to be small , have low power consumption , and be programmable by current means - no special programming ability .
If it were to be used here in the States , why the size and power consumption limitations ?
Why not allow for specialized programming ?
It 's almost as if they need something that will be able to be used and maintained by a typical military technical grunt out in the field .
As if it would be put in a back of a truck and run on a gas powered or solar generator.Just putting that out there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking at the general specs, it basically needs to be small, have low power consumption, and be programmable by current means - no special programming ability.
If it were to be used here in the States, why the size and power consumption limitations?
Why not allow for specialized programming?
It's almost as if they need something that will be able to be used and maintained by a typical military technical grunt out in the field.
As if it would be put in a back of a truck and run on a gas powered or solar generator.Just putting that out there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498495</id>
	<title>NVIDIA</title>
	<author>DaMattster</author>
	<datestamp>1246102980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about the NVIDIA Cuda architecture?  They claim it is a super computer for under 10 grand and doesn't require special power requirements.  But, I wonder if it will only perform as a super computer for graphics<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the NVIDIA Cuda architecture ?
They claim it is a super computer for under 10 grand and does n't require special power requirements .
But , I wonder if it will only perform as a super computer for graphics ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the NVIDIA Cuda architecture?
They claim it is a super computer for under 10 grand and doesn't require special power requirements.
But, I wonder if it will only perform as a super computer for graphics ....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498715</id>
	<title>I have one</title>
	<author>BountyX</author>
	<datestamp>1246104660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My 19" laptop has a super man logo on it...</htmltext>
<tokenext>My 19 " laptop has a super man logo on it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My 19" laptop has a super man logo on it...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498303</id>
	<title>Thermionics and stuff</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1246101480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pack thermionic converters between the components. They'll help cool and recover some power from heat back to power. They can be on the board, or placed on a cover over it in such a way as to fit between the board components. <a href="http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2001/electricity-1205.html" title="mit.edu">http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2001/electricity-1205.html</a> [mit.edu]</p><p>Build in parallel processing with 16 processors, 4 on each side of a 4D-cube, as in the Connection Machine <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connection\_Machine" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connection\_Machine</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Three boards, stacked. Top, thermionics on the underside fitting between the main components, top side of the board is keyboard. Main in the middle, components top side. Bottom board, cram full of memory, below main board to keep it away from the heat. Vents underneath and through memory and main boards, so convection can feed heat to the top board.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pack thermionic converters between the components .
They 'll help cool and recover some power from heat back to power .
They can be on the board , or placed on a cover over it in such a way as to fit between the board components .
http : //web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2001/electricity-1205.html [ mit.edu ] Build in parallel processing with 16 processors , 4 on each side of a 4D-cube , as in the Connection Machine http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connection \ _Machine [ wikipedia.org ] Three boards , stacked .
Top , thermionics on the underside fitting between the main components , top side of the board is keyboard .
Main in the middle , components top side .
Bottom board , cram full of memory , below main board to keep it away from the heat .
Vents underneath and through memory and main boards , so convection can feed heat to the top board .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pack thermionic converters between the components.
They'll help cool and recover some power from heat back to power.
They can be on the board, or placed on a cover over it in such a way as to fit between the board components.
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2001/electricity-1205.html [mit.edu]Build in parallel processing with 16 processors, 4 on each side of a 4D-cube, as in the Connection Machine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connection\_Machine [wikipedia.org]Three boards, stacked.
Top, thermionics on the underside fitting between the main components, top side of the board is keyboard.
Main in the middle, components top side.
Bottom board, cram full of memory, below main board to keep it away from the heat.
Vents underneath and through memory and main boards, so convection can feed heat to the top board.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498165</id>
	<title>Simple solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246100280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Buy EEE PC<br>2. Soak it in fluid herbal viagra sold by Mr. Hammand Zo-Moki Gabbaballa on the internet<br>3. ???<br>4. Profit !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Buy EEE PC2 .
Soak it in fluid herbal viagra sold by Mr. Hammand Zo-Moki Gabbaballa on the internet3 .
? ? ? 4. Profit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Buy EEE PC2.
Soak it in fluid herbal viagra sold by Mr. Hammand Zo-Moki Gabbaballa on the internet3.
???4. Profit !</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28499223</id>
	<title>Why?</title>
	<author>Billy the Mountain</author>
	<datestamp>1246109520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would DARPA want this?  Maybe they want a AI that can navigate aircraft or gound vehicles?  BTW, I think it's ironic that autonomous operation seems easier to develop for aircraft than for ground vehicles when you consider that pilots get way more respect than the average municipal bus driver.</p><p>BTM</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would DARPA want this ?
Maybe they want a AI that can navigate aircraft or gound vehicles ?
BTW , I think it 's ironic that autonomous operation seems easier to develop for aircraft than for ground vehicles when you consider that pilots get way more respect than the average municipal bus driver.BTM</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would DARPA want this?
Maybe they want a AI that can navigate aircraft or gound vehicles?
BTW, I think it's ironic that autonomous operation seems easier to develop for aircraft than for ground vehicles when you consider that pilots get way more respect than the average municipal bus driver.BTM</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498105</id>
	<title>No problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246099860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just stick a human brain in a bucket. It's small, quiet, cool and just feed it a Cheeto every once in a while to keep it running.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just stick a human brain in a bucket .
It 's small , quiet , cool and just feed it a Cheeto every once in a while to keep it running .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just stick a human brain in a bucket.
It's small, quiet, cool and just feed it a Cheeto every once in a while to keep it running.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498519</id>
	<title>Should it...</title>
	<author>juanergie</author>
	<datestamp>1246103160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... run Linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... run Linux?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498845</id>
	<title>It's a sad state of affairs...</title>
	<author>HotNeedleOfInquiry</author>
	<datestamp>1246106040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>When the most important specification of a supercomputer is it's power consumption.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When the most important specification of a supercomputer is it 's power consumption .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When the most important specification of a supercomputer is it's power consumption.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498479</id>
	<title>Re:No problem</title>
	<author>oneirophrenos</author>
	<datestamp>1246102860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just stick a human brain in a bucket. It's small, quiet, cool and just feed it a Cheeto every once in a while to keep it running.</p></div><p>And since the human brain has a <a href="http://movementarian.com/2006/08/18/flops-mips-watts-and-the-human-brain/" title="movementarian.com">computational power of 100 petaflops at 20 watts</a> [movementarian.com], it'd well exceed DARPA's requirements.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just stick a human brain in a bucket .
It 's small , quiet , cool and just feed it a Cheeto every once in a while to keep it running.And since the human brain has a computational power of 100 petaflops at 20 watts [ movementarian.com ] , it 'd well exceed DARPA 's requirements .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just stick a human brain in a bucket.
It's small, quiet, cool and just feed it a Cheeto every once in a while to keep it running.And since the human brain has a computational power of 100 petaflops at 20 watts [movementarian.com], it'd well exceed DARPA's requirements.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28500125</id>
	<title>Re:No problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246116540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, it would waste too much processing time watching re-runs of "The Facts of Life" on TV Land.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , it would waste too much processing time watching re-runs of " The Facts of Life " on TV Land .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, it would waste too much processing time watching re-runs of "The Facts of Life" on TV Land.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498163</id>
	<title>60,000 watts?</title>
	<author>retro128</author>
	<datestamp>1246100280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that all they're allowing? Power nazis.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that all they 're allowing ?
Power nazis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that all they're allowing?
Power nazis.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498323</id>
	<title>Re:Could at least editors have a look at TFA?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246101600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you trying to say that Extreme Scientists have nice Racks?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you trying to say that Extreme Scientists have nice Racks ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you trying to say that Extreme Scientists have nice Racks?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28505601</id>
	<title>Re:Heat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246216260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might want to allow for a factor of 2 to allow for high elevation where air is thin and an additional factor of 2 for Theta JA for the components you are using.<br>Mil-spec calls for max junction temperature of 105C and sometime your CPU vendors specs only 85C to meet timing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might want to allow for a factor of 2 to allow for high elevation where air is thin and an additional factor of 2 for Theta JA for the components you are using.Mil-spec calls for max junction temperature of 105C and sometime your CPU vendors specs only 85C to meet timing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might want to allow for a factor of 2 to allow for high elevation where air is thin and an additional factor of 2 for Theta JA for the components you are using.Mil-spec calls for max junction temperature of 105C and sometime your CPU vendors specs only 85C to meet timing.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498089</id>
	<title>Could at least editors have a look at TFA?</title>
	<author>Gruturo</author>
	<datestamp>1246099800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a 19" \_rack\_, not \_box\_. As in, the standard (non-telco) datacenter rack size, accomodating up to 42U, 19" wide.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a 19 " \ _rack \ _ , not \ _box \ _ .
As in , the standard ( non-telco ) datacenter rack size , accomodating up to 42U , 19 " wide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a 19" \_rack\_, not \_box\_.
As in, the standard (non-telco) datacenter rack size, accomodating up to 42U, 19" wide.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28505781</id>
	<title>Re:Will fit inside your Car Analogy</title>
	<author>temojen</author>
	<datestamp>1246217340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>60 kW is about 80 horsepower</p></div></blockquote><p>And if you had the most efficient type of diesel engine and generator, that's about 11L of diesel fuel per hour per vehicle. All the time, not just when accelerating of climbing a grade. And between the generator and computer, a 100kW heat signature (computers do minimal "work", almost all of their consumed energy ends up as heat).</p><blockquote><div><p>19 in x 19 in x 19 in cube is only about 4 cubic feet*</p></div></blockquote><p>They're talking about 19" rack, not cube. That's about 150 cubic feet.</p><blockquote><div><p>Combine it with sensors you could detect damage and minimize its effects by comparing the vehicle's response to a detailed finite element model. You could do on the fly aerodynamic analysis, allowing a fighter to keep performing to it's best even after damage has significantly altered it's shape.</p></div></blockquote><p>CF-18's already do that, with no super computer.</p><p>I don't think this project is intended for vehicle mounted use.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>60 kW is about 80 horsepowerAnd if you had the most efficient type of diesel engine and generator , that 's about 11L of diesel fuel per hour per vehicle .
All the time , not just when accelerating of climbing a grade .
And between the generator and computer , a 100kW heat signature ( computers do minimal " work " , almost all of their consumed energy ends up as heat ) .19 in x 19 in x 19 in cube is only about 4 cubic feet * They 're talking about 19 " rack , not cube .
That 's about 150 cubic feet.Combine it with sensors you could detect damage and minimize its effects by comparing the vehicle 's response to a detailed finite element model .
You could do on the fly aerodynamic analysis , allowing a fighter to keep performing to it 's best even after damage has significantly altered it 's shape.CF-18 's already do that , with no super computer.I do n't think this project is intended for vehicle mounted use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>60 kW is about 80 horsepowerAnd if you had the most efficient type of diesel engine and generator, that's about 11L of diesel fuel per hour per vehicle.
All the time, not just when accelerating of climbing a grade.
And between the generator and computer, a 100kW heat signature (computers do minimal "work", almost all of their consumed energy ends up as heat).19 in x 19 in x 19 in cube is only about 4 cubic feet*They're talking about 19" rack, not cube.
That's about 150 cubic feet.Combine it with sensors you could detect damage and minimize its effects by comparing the vehicle's response to a detailed finite element model.
You could do on the fly aerodynamic analysis, allowing a fighter to keep performing to it's best even after damage has significantly altered it's shape.CF-18's already do that, with no super computer.I don't think this project is intended for vehicle mounted use.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498567</id>
	<title>Alternate way to get one</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1246103460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just stay around girls called Sarah Connor. A supercomputer of around that size will appear eventually, and you will take as bonus a portable nuclear reactor, and a somewhat aggressive AI. Be sure to erase memory because it surely will contain a nasty trojan horse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just stay around girls called Sarah Connor .
A supercomputer of around that size will appear eventually , and you will take as bonus a portable nuclear reactor , and a somewhat aggressive AI .
Be sure to erase memory because it surely will contain a nasty trojan horse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just stay around girls called Sarah Connor.
A supercomputer of around that size will appear eventually, and you will take as bonus a portable nuclear reactor, and a somewhat aggressive AI.
Be sure to erase memory because it surely will contain a nasty trojan horse.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498079</id>
	<title>57KW air-cooled 19" Rack?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246099740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You must be joking. That's like packing in 30 2KW electric fan heaters into a rack, obstructing the airflow with a ton of other junk and praying it won't melt. Good luck with that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You must be joking .
That 's like packing in 30 2KW electric fan heaters into a rack , obstructing the airflow with a ton of other junk and praying it wo n't melt .
Good luck with that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You must be joking.
That's like packing in 30 2KW electric fan heaters into a rack, obstructing the airflow with a ton of other junk and praying it won't melt.
Good luck with that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28503855</id>
	<title>Re:Yeah sure</title>
	<author>railmeat</author>
	<datestamp>1246204800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And just as soon as they go back to loving and protecting freedom, then and only then will the government deserve my help with anything.</p></div><p>Why would any government be interested in freedom?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And just as soon as they go back to loving and protecting freedom , then and only then will the government deserve my help with anything.Why would any government be interested in freedom ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And just as soon as they go back to loving and protecting freedom, then and only then will the government deserve my help with anything.Why would any government be interested in freedom?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28499151</id>
	<title>Re:Heat</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1246108920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By my calculations 1 m^3/sec of air can carry away 65kW at a 50 degK temperature rise.  That's doable, though you don't want it exhausting into your office.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By my calculations 1 m ^ 3/sec of air can carry away 65kW at a 50 degK temperature rise .
That 's doable , though you do n't want it exhausting into your office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By my calculations 1 m^3/sec of air can carry away 65kW at a 50 degK temperature rise.
That's doable, though you don't want it exhausting into your office.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28499463</id>
	<title>Government job</title>
	<author>lagomorpha2</author>
	<datestamp>1246111200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given this is the government would I still get funding if I developed a computer that was capable of 50 Gwatts per FLOP?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given this is the government would I still get funding if I developed a computer that was capable of 50 Gwatts per FLOP ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given this is the government would I still get funding if I developed a computer that was capable of 50 Gwatts per FLOP?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498123</id>
	<title>Going against Resistance is futile. Sidestep it.</title>
	<author>jack2000</author>
	<datestamp>1246099980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Supercool that fucker!
That might help a lot!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Supercool that fucker !
That might help a lot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Supercool that fucker!
That might help a lot!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28501727</id>
	<title>Re:No problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246220040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's interesting how the "estimated computational power of the brain" seems to increase every few years to keep it very far ahead of the fastest supercomputer of the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's interesting how the " estimated computational power of the brain " seems to increase every few years to keep it very far ahead of the fastest supercomputer of the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's interesting how the "estimated computational power of the brain" seems to increase every few years to keep it very far ahead of the fastest supercomputer of the time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28507193</id>
	<title>Re:No problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246185660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You just have to choose a retarded brain then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You just have to choose a retarded brain then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You just have to choose a retarded brain then.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28508991</id>
	<title>Re:57KW air-cooled 19" Rack?</title>
	<author>Odemia</author>
	<datestamp>1246201920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are right to point out that the cache is a major problem.</p><p>BUT, you try writing a compiler for a multi core system withOUT all those huge caches.  And then try to tune a random selection of non trivial programs to maximize their throughput to get 50GFLOPS.  And if you manage that you are going to have some serious heat/density/power issues as your tiny little cores are placed side by side all using dynamic logic to maximize their throughput</p><p>If you think the answer is a larger core just ask Intel, IBM or AMD why they have moved to multi-core systems in such a strong way.  The simple answer is performance to cost, in other words more complex cores are to difficult to design and per core performance diminishes with complexity (ie too much power/heat for not enough performance).</p><p>The goal set by DARPA is meant to be manageable but not easily.   Certainly not as easy as "look at those tiny tiny little cores".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are right to point out that the cache is a major problem.BUT , you try writing a compiler for a multi core system withOUT all those huge caches .
And then try to tune a random selection of non trivial programs to maximize their throughput to get 50GFLOPS .
And if you manage that you are going to have some serious heat/density/power issues as your tiny little cores are placed side by side all using dynamic logic to maximize their throughputIf you think the answer is a larger core just ask Intel , IBM or AMD why they have moved to multi-core systems in such a strong way .
The simple answer is performance to cost , in other words more complex cores are to difficult to design and per core performance diminishes with complexity ( ie too much power/heat for not enough performance ) .The goal set by DARPA is meant to be manageable but not easily .
Certainly not as easy as " look at those tiny tiny little cores " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are right to point out that the cache is a major problem.BUT, you try writing a compiler for a multi core system withOUT all those huge caches.
And then try to tune a random selection of non trivial programs to maximize their throughput to get 50GFLOPS.
And if you manage that you are going to have some serious heat/density/power issues as your tiny little cores are placed side by side all using dynamic logic to maximize their throughputIf you think the answer is a larger core just ask Intel, IBM or AMD why they have moved to multi-core systems in such a strong way.
The simple answer is performance to cost, in other words more complex cores are to difficult to design and per core performance diminishes with complexity (ie too much power/heat for not enough performance).The goal set by DARPA is meant to be manageable but not easily.
Certainly not as easy as "look at those tiny tiny little cores".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498035</id>
	<title>oblig</title>
	<author>Kardos</author>
	<datestamp>1246099380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now, imagine a Beowulf cluster of those....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now , imagine a Beowulf cluster of those... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now, imagine a Beowulf cluster of those....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28500191</id>
	<title>Positive Development</title>
	<author>rbmyers</author>
	<datestamp>1246117200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The government has spent way too much money wiring up huge quantities of commercial off-the-shelf processors and issuing press releases about its great accomplishments, which mostly reflect having money and being willing to spend it with a minimum of imagination, insight, and risk.  I'd love to know where they got these goals.  I sense a briefing from IBM about three-dimensional chips and microfluidic cooling, and all the wonderful things they could do if only the heavens started pouring forth money.  I hope someone else is in the game, but it's hard for me to imagine who.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The government has spent way too much money wiring up huge quantities of commercial off-the-shelf processors and issuing press releases about its great accomplishments , which mostly reflect having money and being willing to spend it with a minimum of imagination , insight , and risk .
I 'd love to know where they got these goals .
I sense a briefing from IBM about three-dimensional chips and microfluidic cooling , and all the wonderful things they could do if only the heavens started pouring forth money .
I hope someone else is in the game , but it 's hard for me to imagine who .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The government has spent way too much money wiring up huge quantities of commercial off-the-shelf processors and issuing press releases about its great accomplishments, which mostly reflect having money and being willing to spend it with a minimum of imagination, insight, and risk.
I'd love to know where they got these goals.
I sense a briefing from IBM about three-dimensional chips and microfluidic cooling, and all the wonderful things they could do if only the heavens started pouring forth money.
I hope someone else is in the game, but it's hard for me to imagine who.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498029</id>
	<title>extreme scientists</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246099320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Extreme Scientists will be on x TV next year</htmltext>
<tokenext>Extreme Scientists will be on x TV next year</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Extreme Scientists will be on x TV next year</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28503557</id>
	<title>Re:Will fit inside your Car Analogy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246202100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not necessarily an optimal technology, but for reference-<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; various sources claim that an NVIDIA 8800 GTX can peak at 550 GFLOPS using about 150 watts of power.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; That would be about 15 watts for 50 GFLOPS - 15x more power consumption than the goal.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I also figure that you might be able to mount up to 16 of these (plus connecting logic) on a 19" square board.  If you stack the boards in 2" intervals (to allow for cooling) for a total computing power of 1.9 petaflops, it would fit in a rack 32 feet high - 5x too big to be a single 19" rack, 20x too big to fit in a 19" cube.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The IBM Cell has 8 SPEs with 32 GFLOPS each, requiring 135 watts (1.9 GFLOPS/watt); this is 26x more power consumption than the goal.  If you put 16 on each board, 2" apart, your rack would be 77 feet high.  It looks like IBM contemplated putting 32 SPEs on each chip at one point; if they pulled that off, your rack would only have to be 20 feet high.</p><p>And that's assuming that interconnects don't matter (that everyone just sits and works on their own little bit of data).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not necessarily an optimal technology , but for reference-       various sources claim that an NVIDIA 8800 GTX can peak at 550 GFLOPS using about 150 watts of power .
    That would be about 15 watts for 50 GFLOPS - 15x more power consumption than the goal .
    I also figure that you might be able to mount up to 16 of these ( plus connecting logic ) on a 19 " square board .
If you stack the boards in 2 " intervals ( to allow for cooling ) for a total computing power of 1.9 petaflops , it would fit in a rack 32 feet high - 5x too big to be a single 19 " rack , 20x too big to fit in a 19 " cube .
      The IBM Cell has 8 SPEs with 32 GFLOPS each , requiring 135 watts ( 1.9 GFLOPS/watt ) ; this is 26x more power consumption than the goal .
If you put 16 on each board , 2 " apart , your rack would be 77 feet high .
It looks like IBM contemplated putting 32 SPEs on each chip at one point ; if they pulled that off , your rack would only have to be 20 feet high.And that 's assuming that interconnects do n't matter ( that everyone just sits and works on their own little bit of data ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not necessarily an optimal technology, but for reference-
      various sources claim that an NVIDIA 8800 GTX can peak at 550 GFLOPS using about 150 watts of power.
    That would be about 15 watts for 50 GFLOPS - 15x more power consumption than the goal.
    I also figure that you might be able to mount up to 16 of these (plus connecting logic) on a 19" square board.
If you stack the boards in 2" intervals (to allow for cooling) for a total computing power of 1.9 petaflops, it would fit in a rack 32 feet high - 5x too big to be a single 19" rack, 20x too big to fit in a 19" cube.
      The IBM Cell has 8 SPEs with 32 GFLOPS each, requiring 135 watts (1.9 GFLOPS/watt); this is 26x more power consumption than the goal.
If you put 16 on each board, 2" apart, your rack would be 77 feet high.
It looks like IBM contemplated putting 32 SPEs on each chip at one point; if they pulled that off, your rack would only have to be 20 feet high.And that's assuming that interconnects don't matter (that everyone just sits and works on their own little bit of data).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498515</id>
	<title>Fitting it in a 19 inch rack should be easy</title>
	<author>DrBuzzo</author>
	<datestamp>1246103100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just make a really really really tall 19 inch cabinet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just make a really really really tall 19 inch cabinet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just make a really really really tall 19 inch cabinet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498597</id>
	<title>Heat</title>
	<author>JobyOne</author>
	<datestamp>1246103700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't imagine pushing 60 kilowatts through a 19" rack mount ANYTHING without EVERYTHING catching on fire.<br> <br>

Seriously, that's a lot of electricity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't imagine pushing 60 kilowatts through a 19 " rack mount ANYTHING without EVERYTHING catching on fire .
Seriously , that 's a lot of electricity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't imagine pushing 60 kilowatts through a 19" rack mount ANYTHING without EVERYTHING catching on fire.
Seriously, that's a lot of electricity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28504819</id>
	<title>Re:Will fit inside your Car Analogy</title>
	<author>jeffliott</author>
	<datestamp>1246211280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd prefer to do without Skynet if you don't mind!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd prefer to do without Skynet if you do n't mind !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd prefer to do without Skynet if you don't mind!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498063</id>
	<title>These aren't normal scientists...</title>
	<author>Karganeth</author>
	<datestamp>1246099620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>...They're <b>EXTREME</b> scientists!</htmltext>
<tokenext>...They 're EXTREME scientists !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...They're EXTREME scientists!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498351</id>
	<title>I'm In: +1 , Interesting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246101840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"If you can squish all the processing power of, say, an IBM Roadrunner supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity, the government wants to talk to you."</p><p>I can; however, BEFORE we talk, I'll need to have Euro<br>100,000,000 deposited in my bank account and the same<br>amount AFTER the discussion so they can proceed with their new WEAPONS DESIGN PROGRAM.</p><p>Yours In Condensed Matter,<br>Kilgore Trout, Physicist (Mad)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" If you can squish all the processing power of , say , an IBM Roadrunner supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity , the government wants to talk to you .
" I can ; however , BEFORE we talk , I 'll need to have Euro100,000,000 deposited in my bank account and the sameamount AFTER the discussion so they can proceed with their new WEAPONS DESIGN PROGRAM.Yours In Condensed Matter,Kilgore Trout , Physicist ( Mad )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If you can squish all the processing power of, say, an IBM Roadrunner supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity, the government wants to talk to you.
"I can; however, BEFORE we talk, I'll need to have Euro100,000,000 deposited in my bank account and the sameamount AFTER the discussion so they can proceed with their new WEAPONS DESIGN PROGRAM.Yours In Condensed Matter,Kilgore Trout, Physicist (Mad)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498565</id>
	<title>Will fit inside your Car Analogy</title>
	<author>sabre86</author>
	<datestamp>1246103460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This combination of power required and volume would allow essentially for current day supercomputer in every single military vehicle, assuming the weight and heat exhaust constraints aren't too onerous. 60 kW is about 80 horsepower and even a 19 in x 19 in x 19 in cube is only about 4 cubic feet*, which is less than than the trunk space on a Mazda Miata (5.1 cubic ft for a 2006 model), so it's within the space-power envelope of a small sports car, albeit the engine would need to be uprated some to account for the power drain.<br> <br>

Having such great computational power available to every single vehicle would open up a huge realm of possibilities: Combine it with sensors you could detect damage and minimize its effects by comparing the vehicle's response to a detailed finite element model. You could do on the fly aerodynamic analysis, allowing a fighter to keep performing to it's best even after damage has significantly altered it's shape. You could manage the control of thousands of actuators, allowing you to create a shapeshifting walker out of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmable\_matter" title="wikipedia.org">programmable matter</a> [wikipedia.org], and you could definitely do learning/optimization algorithms that would allow for an AI capable of a significant amount of learning. Combine this with the amount of image processing it could do, and you're very near a completely autonomous, smart enough combat vehicle.<br> <br>

While it's a too big for a man portable system, with work, you could fit such a device (and a power source) into something as small as a motorcycle or a somewhat scaled up <a href="http://www.irobot.com/sp.cfm?pageid=150" title="irobot.com">iRobot Warrior</a> [irobot.com]. That's not much more than man sized. It may not be a T-800, that much computation in that small size and power envelope is enough build a near-man sized autonomous fighting vehicle that can see, learn and adapt with an endurance on gas of several hours. It's a bit frightening to consider.<br> <br>
--sabre86</htmltext>
<tokenext>This combination of power required and volume would allow essentially for current day supercomputer in every single military vehicle , assuming the weight and heat exhaust constraints are n't too onerous .
60 kW is about 80 horsepower and even a 19 in x 19 in x 19 in cube is only about 4 cubic feet * , which is less than than the trunk space on a Mazda Miata ( 5.1 cubic ft for a 2006 model ) , so it 's within the space-power envelope of a small sports car , albeit the engine would need to be uprated some to account for the power drain .
Having such great computational power available to every single vehicle would open up a huge realm of possibilities : Combine it with sensors you could detect damage and minimize its effects by comparing the vehicle 's response to a detailed finite element model .
You could do on the fly aerodynamic analysis , allowing a fighter to keep performing to it 's best even after damage has significantly altered it 's shape .
You could manage the control of thousands of actuators , allowing you to create a shapeshifting walker out of programmable matter [ wikipedia.org ] , and you could definitely do learning/optimization algorithms that would allow for an AI capable of a significant amount of learning .
Combine this with the amount of image processing it could do , and you 're very near a completely autonomous , smart enough combat vehicle .
While it 's a too big for a man portable system , with work , you could fit such a device ( and a power source ) into something as small as a motorcycle or a somewhat scaled up iRobot Warrior [ irobot.com ] .
That 's not much more than man sized .
It may not be a T-800 , that much computation in that small size and power envelope is enough build a near-man sized autonomous fighting vehicle that can see , learn and adapt with an endurance on gas of several hours .
It 's a bit frightening to consider .
--sabre86</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This combination of power required and volume would allow essentially for current day supercomputer in every single military vehicle, assuming the weight and heat exhaust constraints aren't too onerous.
60 kW is about 80 horsepower and even a 19 in x 19 in x 19 in cube is only about 4 cubic feet*, which is less than than the trunk space on a Mazda Miata (5.1 cubic ft for a 2006 model), so it's within the space-power envelope of a small sports car, albeit the engine would need to be uprated some to account for the power drain.
Having such great computational power available to every single vehicle would open up a huge realm of possibilities: Combine it with sensors you could detect damage and minimize its effects by comparing the vehicle's response to a detailed finite element model.
You could do on the fly aerodynamic analysis, allowing a fighter to keep performing to it's best even after damage has significantly altered it's shape.
You could manage the control of thousands of actuators, allowing you to create a shapeshifting walker out of programmable matter [wikipedia.org], and you could definitely do learning/optimization algorithms that would allow for an AI capable of a significant amount of learning.
Combine this with the amount of image processing it could do, and you're very near a completely autonomous, smart enough combat vehicle.
While it's a too big for a man portable system, with work, you could fit such a device (and a power source) into something as small as a motorcycle or a somewhat scaled up iRobot Warrior [irobot.com].
That's not much more than man sized.
It may not be a T-800, that much computation in that small size and power envelope is enough build a near-man sized autonomous fighting vehicle that can see, learn and adapt with an endurance on gas of several hours.
It's a bit frightening to consider.
--sabre86</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28499427</id>
	<title>Re:57KW air-cooled 19" Rack?</title>
	<author>Dutch Gun</author>
	<datestamp>1246110900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know... all they have to do is wait 10 years and they can just pick up a few Playstation 5's or Xbox 4's from Wal-Mart to do the job.  In case they didn't realize, all those nifty bullet-points are highly desirable things for computers in both the consumer and commercial markets as well:</p><p>* Highly efficient energy usage<br>* New systems and programming models to develop for massively concurrent processing<br>* Highly fault-tolerant</p><p>Advanced computer technology is something that the market is pushing ahead at a phenomenal rate anyhow, and specifically, computer gaming is driving it even faster.  I don't think the defense department really has to push development of this to advance the state of the art - it will happen with or without their incentives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know... all they have to do is wait 10 years and they can just pick up a few Playstation 5 's or Xbox 4 's from Wal-Mart to do the job .
In case they did n't realize , all those nifty bullet-points are highly desirable things for computers in both the consumer and commercial markets as well : * Highly efficient energy usage * New systems and programming models to develop for massively concurrent processing * Highly fault-tolerantAdvanced computer technology is something that the market is pushing ahead at a phenomenal rate anyhow , and specifically , computer gaming is driving it even faster .
I do n't think the defense department really has to push development of this to advance the state of the art - it will happen with or without their incentives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know... all they have to do is wait 10 years and they can just pick up a few Playstation 5's or Xbox 4's from Wal-Mart to do the job.
In case they didn't realize, all those nifty bullet-points are highly desirable things for computers in both the consumer and commercial markets as well:* Highly efficient energy usage* New systems and programming models to develop for massively concurrent processing* Highly fault-tolerantAdvanced computer technology is something that the market is pushing ahead at a phenomenal rate anyhow, and specifically, computer gaming is driving it even faster.
I don't think the defense department really has to push development of this to advance the state of the art - it will happen with or without their incentives.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498079</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498273</id>
	<title>Bio-computing perhaps?</title>
	<author>davidwr</author>
	<datestamp>1246101240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps with bio-computing or near-atom-scale computing, with the equivalent of transistors being not much bigger than a baker's dozen standard-sized buckyballs.</p><p>But with conventional technology?  I think Moore's law will break down before we reach this goal.</p><p>The brain-in-a-bucket comment earlier is probably more insightful than funny in this context.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps with bio-computing or near-atom-scale computing , with the equivalent of transistors being not much bigger than a baker 's dozen standard-sized buckyballs.But with conventional technology ?
I think Moore 's law will break down before we reach this goal.The brain-in-a-bucket comment earlier is probably more insightful than funny in this context .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps with bio-computing or near-atom-scale computing, with the equivalent of transistors being not much bigger than a baker's dozen standard-sized buckyballs.But with conventional technology?
I think Moore's law will break down before we reach this goal.The brain-in-a-bucket comment earlier is probably more insightful than funny in this context.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498365</id>
	<title>Re:Could at least editors have a look at TFA?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246101960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some 19" boxes are 1U high, 2U high, 6U high.  They're just asking for one that's 42U high.  Maximum.  I'm sure if you could give them a 6U version, they'd be happy with that also.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some 19 " boxes are 1U high , 2U high , 6U high .
They 're just asking for one that 's 42U high .
Maximum. I 'm sure if you could give them a 6U version , they 'd be happy with that also .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some 19" boxes are 1U high, 2U high, 6U high.
They're just asking for one that's 42U high.
Maximum.  I'm sure if you could give them a 6U version, they'd be happy with that also.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28499525</id>
	<title>Re:Yeah sure</title>
	<author>russotto</author>
	<datestamp>1246111560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>And just as soon as they go back to loving and protecting freedom, then and only then will the government deserve my help with anything.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Yeah, my first thought on this was whether perhaps those were the requirements to get the things inside every AT&amp;T-style NSA listening room.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And just as soon as they go back to loving and protecting freedom , then and only then will the government deserve my help with anything .
Yeah , my first thought on this was whether perhaps those were the requirements to get the things inside every AT&amp;T-style NSA listening room .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And just as soon as they go back to loving and protecting freedom, then and only then will the government deserve my help with anything.
Yeah, my first thought on this was whether perhaps those were the requirements to get the things inside every AT&amp;T-style NSA listening room.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498037</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498921</id>
	<title>Re:57KW air-cooled 19" Rack?</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1246106820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it is doable.  The whole machine must be air-cooled but nothing in the RFP says that liquid cooling could not be used internally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it is doable .
The whole machine must be air-cooled but nothing in the RFP says that liquid cooling could not be used internally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it is doable.
The whole machine must be air-cooled but nothing in the RFP says that liquid cooling could not be used internally.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498079</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498263</id>
	<title>Re:Could at least editors have a look at TFA?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246101180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>42AU? That's a tall order.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>42AU ?
That 's a tall order .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>42AU?
That's a tall order.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498089</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498341</id>
	<title>DUH PC</title>
	<author>OverZealous.com</author>
	<datestamp>1246101780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think they should include DARPA in the acronym, so you get to spend all this money on a DUH PC.</p><p>Maybe it could even run WinDUHs!</p><p>It would be an induhspensible part of our computing future, duhtermining the ability of our government's uhbility to duhrive new induhstries!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think they should include DARPA in the acronym , so you get to spend all this money on a DUH PC.Maybe it could even run WinDUHs ! It would be an induhspensible part of our computing future , duhtermining the ability of our government 's uhbility to duhrive new induhstries !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think they should include DARPA in the acronym, so you get to spend all this money on a DUH PC.Maybe it could even run WinDUHs!It would be an induhspensible part of our computing future, duhtermining the ability of our government's uhbility to duhrive new induhstries!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28499261</id>
	<title>Hmmmm</title>
	<author>the eric conspiracy</author>
	<datestamp>1246109820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So now we know what the hardware requirements for Windows 10 are going to be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So now we know what the hardware requirements for Windows 10 are going to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now we know what the hardware requirements for Windows 10 are going to be.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28504721</id>
	<title>Re:Yeah sure</title>
	<author>EbeneezerSquid</author>
	<datestamp>1246210800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Contrary to your apparent view, the vast majority of the individuals in the US Government do love freedom and wish to protect it. <br>
The defense department tends to be the place that these people are most concentrated: the same Defense Department that DARPA serves.  <br>
<br>
I doubt that ANYONE in the government does not Love and wish to protect Freedom: <br>
There are those, however, who may undermine it unintentionally due to a lack of understanding of what their "payment to supports," will actually cause in the long run.<br>
This is called "Being naive".<br> With luck, it can be corrected. <br> With time, any damage can be reversed, as long as those who understand what has happened and do truly Love Freedom persevere.<br>
<br>
Complaining and Blaming others accomplishes little.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Contrary to your apparent view , the vast majority of the individuals in the US Government do love freedom and wish to protect it .
The defense department tends to be the place that these people are most concentrated : the same Defense Department that DARPA serves .
I doubt that ANYONE in the government does not Love and wish to protect Freedom : There are those , however , who may undermine it unintentionally due to a lack of understanding of what their " payment to supports , " will actually cause in the long run .
This is called " Being naive " .
With luck , it can be corrected .
With time , any damage can be reversed , as long as those who understand what has happened and do truly Love Freedom persevere .
Complaining and Blaming others accomplishes little .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Contrary to your apparent view, the vast majority of the individuals in the US Government do love freedom and wish to protect it.
The defense department tends to be the place that these people are most concentrated: the same Defense Department that DARPA serves.
I doubt that ANYONE in the government does not Love and wish to protect Freedom: 
There are those, however, who may undermine it unintentionally due to a lack of understanding of what their "payment to supports," will actually cause in the long run.
This is called "Being naive".
With luck, it can be corrected.
With time, any damage can be reversed, as long as those who understand what has happened and do truly Love Freedom persevere.
Complaining and Blaming others accomplishes little.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498037</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498621</id>
	<title>aka</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1246104000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>playstation 4</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>playstation 4</tokentext>
<sentencetext>playstation 4</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498453</id>
	<title>Re:57KW air-cooled 19" Rack?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246102680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not so far fetched I think. Look at those tiny tiny little cores on your processor die. No, that's the cache, look harder. Wayyy down there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not so far fetched I think .
Look at those tiny tiny little cores on your processor die .
No , that 's the cache , look harder .
Wayyy down there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not so far fetched I think.
Look at those tiny tiny little cores on your processor die.
No, that's the cache, look harder.
Wayyy down there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498079</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498635</id>
	<title>Re:57KW air-cooled 19" Rack?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246104120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thats why its called Research.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats why its called Research .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats why its called Research.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498079</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498747</id>
	<title>Re:Could at least editors have a look at TFA?</title>
	<author>kenh</author>
	<datestamp>1246104960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Naw, how deep can I make the cabinet<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;^)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Naw , how deep can I make the cabinet ; ^ )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Naw, how deep can I make the cabinet ;^)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498089</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498683</id>
	<title>And a pony</title>
	<author>Daniel Weis</author>
	<datestamp>1246104480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you can squish all the processing power of say an IBM Roadrunner supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity, the government wants to talk to you.</p></div><p>Well then.  I'm sure people will go with the more traditional routes of terrorism, theft, and tax evasion to get a one on one session with the government.  After all, it just seems easier.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can squish all the processing power of say an IBM Roadrunner supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity , the government wants to talk to you.Well then .
I 'm sure people will go with the more traditional routes of terrorism , theft , and tax evasion to get a one on one session with the government .
After all , it just seems easier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can squish all the processing power of say an IBM Roadrunner supercomputer inside a 19-inch box and make it run on about 60 kilowatts of electricity, the government wants to talk to you.Well then.
I'm sure people will go with the more traditional routes of terrorism, theft, and tax evasion to get a one on one session with the government.
After all, it just seems easier.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498415</id>
	<title>Re:57KW air-cooled 19" Rack?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246102380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are 15 KW rated routers that are rack sized, and they only suck air in at the bottom through a small hole.</p><p>Google CRS-1</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are 15 KW rated routers that are rack sized , and they only suck air in at the bottom through a small hole.Google CRS-1</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are 15 KW rated routers that are rack sized, and they only suck air in at the bottom through a small hole.Google CRS-1</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498079</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498513</id>
	<title>Re:Could at least editors have a look at TFA?</title>
	<author>Smallpond</author>
	<datestamp>1246103100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hmmm... fits in one rack and has enough processing to do word recognition on all of the calls coming in to one telephone central office simultaneously.  I wonder what they want a whole bunch of these for?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hmmm... fits in one rack and has enough processing to do word recognition on all of the calls coming in to one telephone central office simultaneously .
I wonder what they want a whole bunch of these for ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hmmm... fits in one rack and has enough processing to do word recognition on all of the calls coming in to one telephone central office simultaneously.
I wonder what they want a whole bunch of these for?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498089</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498673</id>
	<title>Zombie bait</title>
	<author>PolygamousRanchKid </author>
	<datestamp>1246104360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just stick a human brain in a bucket.</p></div><p>Yeah, we tried that already . . . but brains in buckets tend to attract too many zombies . . . you end up spending way to much money on ammunition for gun shots to the zombie heads . . . though, the sysops seem to love the action.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just stick a human brain in a bucket.Yeah , we tried that already .
. .
but brains in buckets tend to attract too many zombies .
. .
you end up spending way to much money on ammunition for gun shots to the zombie heads .
. .
though , the sysops seem to love the action .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just stick a human brain in a bucket.Yeah, we tried that already .
. .
but brains in buckets tend to attract too many zombies .
. .
you end up spending way to much money on ammunition for gun shots to the zombie heads .
. .
though, the sysops seem to love the action.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498105</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498373</id>
	<title>wtf</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246102020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fuck DARPA, I want one of those too.
<br> <br>
come to think of it I want one the size of a cell phone that runs off of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.002 watts.<br>
a girl that looks like that chick in Transformers,<br>
a trillion dollars<br>
and lots of other stuff<br>
<br> <br>
for some reason my wishes don't make headlines on slashdot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fuck DARPA , I want one of those too .
come to think of it I want one the size of a cell phone that runs off of .002 watts .
a girl that looks like that chick in Transformers , a trillion dollars and lots of other stuff for some reason my wishes do n't make headlines on slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fuck DARPA, I want one of those too.
come to think of it I want one the size of a cell phone that runs off of .002 watts.
a girl that looks like that chick in Transformers,
a trillion dollars
and lots of other stuff
 
for some reason my wishes don't make headlines on slashdot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498051</id>
	<title>maybe it can run</title>
	<author>weirdo557</author>
	<datestamp>1246099560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>maybe it can run windows vista</htmltext>
<tokenext>maybe it can run windows vista</tokentext>
<sentencetext>maybe it can run windows vista</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28505717</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>EbeneezerSquid</author>
	<datestamp>1246216920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would be just as easy to make autonomous operation for vehicles too, if everyone filed a Driving Plan at least 12 hours prior to leaving. <br>
That goes for people walking, too. <br>
I think the incidence of DogStrike would be a little higher than the incidence of BirdStrike, but not too much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be just as easy to make autonomous operation for vehicles too , if everyone filed a Driving Plan at least 12 hours prior to leaving .
That goes for people walking , too .
I think the incidence of DogStrike would be a little higher than the incidence of BirdStrike , but not too much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be just as easy to make autonomous operation for vehicles too, if everyone filed a Driving Plan at least 12 hours prior to leaving.
That goes for people walking, too.
I think the incidence of DogStrike would be a little higher than the incidence of BirdStrike, but not too much.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28499223</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28505675</id>
	<title>Re:It's a sad state of affairs...</title>
	<author>EbeneezerSquid</author>
	<datestamp>1246216680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When you don't want to have to put a nuclear reactor in the tank that the supercomputer is going to be shoehorned into. (As a higher-up poster suggested). <br>
I'm sure the Army would like all the IT/InfoWarfare abilities that comes with a prepared Command post in their field HQ, and still be able to run off of the truck mounted generators they use now. <br>
Power is a BIG concern in field operations, as you can't count on being able to tap into the local grid, as it may be unstable due to fighting (like Iraq, though it wasn't stable to start with), or entirely nonexistant (like Afganastan).</htmltext>
<tokenext>When you do n't want to have to put a nuclear reactor in the tank that the supercomputer is going to be shoehorned into .
( As a higher-up poster suggested ) .
I 'm sure the Army would like all the IT/InfoWarfare abilities that comes with a prepared Command post in their field HQ , and still be able to run off of the truck mounted generators they use now .
Power is a BIG concern in field operations , as you ca n't count on being able to tap into the local grid , as it may be unstable due to fighting ( like Iraq , though it was n't stable to start with ) , or entirely nonexistant ( like Afganastan ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you don't want to have to put a nuclear reactor in the tank that the supercomputer is going to be shoehorned into.
(As a higher-up poster suggested).
I'm sure the Army would like all the IT/InfoWarfare abilities that comes with a prepared Command post in their field HQ, and still be able to run off of the truck mounted generators they use now.
Power is a BIG concern in field operations, as you can't count on being able to tap into the local grid, as it may be unstable due to fighting (like Iraq, though it wasn't stable to start with), or entirely nonexistant (like Afganastan).</sentencetext>
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	<title>only 60KW?</title>
	<author>Mishotaki</author>
	<datestamp>1246119840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm pretty sure it can be done easily, make robotic legs that can run... use less than 60KW.... and put a Roadruner supercomputer in a 19"X19" box that goes as high as it can... and there you go! <p>get rich or die trying!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure it can be done easily , make robotic legs that can run... use less than 60KW.... and put a Roadruner supercomputer in a 19 " X19 " box that goes as high as it can... and there you go !
get rich or die trying !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure it can be done easily, make robotic legs that can run... use less than 60KW.... and put a Roadruner supercomputer in a 19"X19" box that goes as high as it can... and there you go!
get rich or die trying!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498681</id>
	<title>Re:NVIDIA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246104420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're missing the point-- Darpa feels that it is ill served by current commodity supercomputers, and wants something revolutionary. The deadline for delivery is in 2017, so it's unlikely that today's tech comes close.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're missing the point-- Darpa feels that it is ill served by current commodity supercomputers , and wants something revolutionary .
The deadline for delivery is in 2017 , so it 's unlikely that today 's tech comes close .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're missing the point-- Darpa feels that it is ill served by current commodity supercomputers, and wants something revolutionary.
The deadline for delivery is in 2017, so it's unlikely that today's tech comes close.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498201</id>
	<title>Where will be that cabinet?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246100640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If could be put at near 0 K (and the power to maintain that temperature is not counted) maybe a superconducing supercomputer could get  that speed in that size.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If could be put at near 0 K ( and the power to maintain that temperature is not counted ) maybe a superconducing supercomputer could get that speed in that size .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If could be put at near 0 K (and the power to maintain that temperature is not counted) maybe a superconducing supercomputer could get  that speed in that size.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498293</id>
	<title>If i could do that</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246101360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you think id admit it and have the Feds take it from me for nothing and classify it? No thanks.</p><p>And for the record, it wouldn't be that hard to do, as long as you wanted a semi-dedicated supercomputer and not a general purpose box.. But no, i wont tell you how, even if i was authorized.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you think id admit it and have the Feds take it from me for nothing and classify it ?
No thanks.And for the record , it would n't be that hard to do , as long as you wanted a semi-dedicated supercomputer and not a general purpose box.. But no , i wont tell you how , even if i was authorized .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you think id admit it and have the Feds take it from me for nothing and classify it?
No thanks.And for the record, it wouldn't be that hard to do, as long as you wanted a semi-dedicated supercomputer and not a general purpose box.. But no, i wont tell you how, even if i was authorized.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28499345</id>
	<title>Whoa.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246110420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Imagine a Beowolf cluster of those things!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine a Beowolf cluster of those things !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Imagine a Beowolf cluster of those things!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28503673</id>
	<title>Re:No problem</title>
	<author>weicco</author>
	<datestamp>1246203120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unless we are talking about <a href="http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Cogitor" title="wikia.com">these</a> [wikia.com] who an earth would like to stand in 19" rack for the whole business day!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless we are talking about these [ wikia.com ] who an earth would like to stand in 19 " rack for the whole business day !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless we are talking about these [wikia.com] who an earth would like to stand in 19" rack for the whole business day!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28498305</id>
	<title>Re:extreme scientists</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246101480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, anyone see AlexPKeatonInDa? I could really use some head right now.</p><p>- Wolf Bearclaw</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , anyone see AlexPKeatonInDa ?
I could really use some head right now.- Wolf Bearclaw</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, anyone see AlexPKeatonInDa?
I could really use some head right now.- Wolf Bearclaw</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_27_2118232.28499985</id>
	<title>Re:Where will be that cabinet?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246115460000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Along with a supercolliding superbutton for emergency power off?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Along with a supercolliding superbutton for emergency power off ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Along with a supercolliding superbutton for emergency power off?</sentencetext>
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