<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_26_2331213</id>
	<title>Milky Way's Spiral Arms Could Not Have Caused Climate Change</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1246021680000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://arxivblog.technologyreview.com/" rel="nofollow">KentuckyFC</a> writes <i>"One of the puzzles of Earth's climate history is an apparent <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Phanerozoic\_Climate\_Change.png">140-million-year cycle in the climate record</a>. Various astronomers think this can be explained by the passage of the Sun through the spiral arms of the Milky Way, which also seems to have had a period of about 140 million years. The thinking is that in regions of denser star populations, supernovas would have been more common, bathing the Earth in cosmic rays more often. These cosmic rays would then have seeded the formation of clouds that cool the planet. But in recent years, astronomers have mapped out the structure of the galaxy in much more detail. And now a pair of US astronomers have reanalyzed this climate change idea in light of the new evidence. Their conclusion is that <a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/23763/">the climate change cycle cannot possibly have coincided with the movement of the Sun through the spiral arms</a>. So whatever caused the 140-million-year climate change cycle on Earth, it wasn't the Sun's passage through the galaxy."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>KentuckyFC writes " One of the puzzles of Earth 's climate history is an apparent 140-million-year cycle in the climate record .
Various astronomers think this can be explained by the passage of the Sun through the spiral arms of the Milky Way , which also seems to have had a period of about 140 million years .
The thinking is that in regions of denser star populations , supernovas would have been more common , bathing the Earth in cosmic rays more often .
These cosmic rays would then have seeded the formation of clouds that cool the planet .
But in recent years , astronomers have mapped out the structure of the galaxy in much more detail .
And now a pair of US astronomers have reanalyzed this climate change idea in light of the new evidence .
Their conclusion is that the climate change cycle can not possibly have coincided with the movement of the Sun through the spiral arms .
So whatever caused the 140-million-year climate change cycle on Earth , it was n't the Sun 's passage through the galaxy .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>KentuckyFC writes "One of the puzzles of Earth's climate history is an apparent 140-million-year cycle in the climate record.
Various astronomers think this can be explained by the passage of the Sun through the spiral arms of the Milky Way, which also seems to have had a period of about 140 million years.
The thinking is that in regions of denser star populations, supernovas would have been more common, bathing the Earth in cosmic rays more often.
These cosmic rays would then have seeded the formation of clouds that cool the planet.
But in recent years, astronomers have mapped out the structure of the galaxy in much more detail.
And now a pair of US astronomers have reanalyzed this climate change idea in light of the new evidence.
Their conclusion is that the climate change cycle cannot possibly have coincided with the movement of the Sun through the spiral arms.
So whatever caused the 140-million-year climate change cycle on Earth, it wasn't the Sun's passage through the galaxy.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490647</id>
	<title>Decepticons</title>
	<author>tverbeek</author>
	<datestamp>1246028460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>My theory is that the Decepticons are responsible.
<br> <br> <br> <br> <br>
(Sorry, but my brain is still recovering from the 2.5-hour Mighty Transformin' Power Rangers movie I sat through as a favor for my friend who wanted to see it.  The dramatic parts made me laugh, the action scenes nearly put me sleep, and the comedy bits made me wish my phone would ring.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>My theory is that the Decepticons are responsible .
( Sorry , but my brain is still recovering from the 2.5-hour Mighty Transformin ' Power Rangers movie I sat through as a favor for my friend who wanted to see it .
The dramatic parts made me laugh , the action scenes nearly put me sleep , and the comedy bits made me wish my phone would ring .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My theory is that the Decepticons are responsible.
(Sorry, but my brain is still recovering from the 2.5-hour Mighty Transformin' Power Rangers movie I sat through as a favor for my friend who wanted to see it.
The dramatic parts made me laugh, the action scenes nearly put me sleep, and the comedy bits made me wish my phone would ring.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28492503</id>
	<title>Not Arms</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1246133400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In 1978 is was suggested that a galactic density wave, rather than passage through the arms, was responsible for the 140 My events. This wave, with a period 1/2 that of galactic rotation, eminates from the galactic core. <a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/k1t6v868227t7403/" title="springerlink.com">http://www.springerlink.com/content/k1t6v868227t7403/</a> [springerlink.com]</p><p>The solar system doesn't just orbit the galaxy. It oscillates up and down through the galactic plane with a period of 88 +/- 5 My. This too has been suggested as being involved in extinctions, since the galactic plane is denser than the regions outside it.</p><p>I'm glad they got a better galactic map, and I'm sure it shows what they say. But the arms themselves aren't the only things hypothesized to be involved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In 1978 is was suggested that a galactic density wave , rather than passage through the arms , was responsible for the 140 My events .
This wave , with a period 1/2 that of galactic rotation , eminates from the galactic core .
http : //www.springerlink.com/content/k1t6v868227t7403/ [ springerlink.com ] The solar system does n't just orbit the galaxy .
It oscillates up and down through the galactic plane with a period of 88 + /- 5 My .
This too has been suggested as being involved in extinctions , since the galactic plane is denser than the regions outside it.I 'm glad they got a better galactic map , and I 'm sure it shows what they say .
But the arms themselves are n't the only things hypothesized to be involved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In 1978 is was suggested that a galactic density wave, rather than passage through the arms, was responsible for the 140 My events.
This wave, with a period 1/2 that of galactic rotation, eminates from the galactic core.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/k1t6v868227t7403/ [springerlink.com]The solar system doesn't just orbit the galaxy.
It oscillates up and down through the galactic plane with a period of 88 +/- 5 My.
This too has been suggested as being involved in extinctions, since the galactic plane is denser than the regions outside it.I'm glad they got a better galactic map, and I'm sure it shows what they say.
But the arms themselves aren't the only things hypothesized to be involved.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490367</id>
	<title>Michael Jackson's Frosty Piss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246025580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would have been a steaming hot mug, but he's cold already!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would have been a steaming hot mug , but he 's cold already !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would have been a steaming hot mug, but he's cold already!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28496775</id>
	<title>A big surprize.</title>
	<author>Cr0vv</author>
	<datestamp>1246134480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The actual cause of global warming, is a planet in the solar system that Nasa warned us about in 1983 (Washington Post) the news of which was quickly repressed by the U.S. Government.  Since then, the planet has progressed in it's sling orbit through our solar system.  Currently, it resides just north of the Sun's south pole near the ecliptic.  It's a magnetic brown dwarf with unusual moon swirls in 2 "tails", which is why ancient cultures depicted it as a winged planet.  It's a magnetic powerhouse, which is why the Sun is uncharacteristically sunspot/activity quiet now -- the interloping planet has it's south pole pointing at the sun.  The magma of the Earth is very responsive to a magnetic field,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...it roils due to the magnetic influence of this planet causing the Earth's crust to heat up -- hence, Global Warming.  That simple.
Don't look for the evidence of this in normal news channels, they are not allowed to report on this, neither are the astronauts or the astronomical observatories.
Crow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The actual cause of global warming , is a planet in the solar system that Nasa warned us about in 1983 ( Washington Post ) the news of which was quickly repressed by the U.S. Government. Since then , the planet has progressed in it 's sling orbit through our solar system .
Currently , it resides just north of the Sun 's south pole near the ecliptic .
It 's a magnetic brown dwarf with unusual moon swirls in 2 " tails " , which is why ancient cultures depicted it as a winged planet .
It 's a magnetic powerhouse , which is why the Sun is uncharacteristically sunspot/activity quiet now -- the interloping planet has it 's south pole pointing at the sun .
The magma of the Earth is very responsive to a magnetic field , ...it roils due to the magnetic influence of this planet causing the Earth 's crust to heat up -- hence , Global Warming .
That simple .
Do n't look for the evidence of this in normal news channels , they are not allowed to report on this , neither are the astronauts or the astronomical observatories .
Crow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The actual cause of global warming, is a planet in the solar system that Nasa warned us about in 1983 (Washington Post) the news of which was quickly repressed by the U.S. Government.  Since then, the planet has progressed in it's sling orbit through our solar system.
Currently, it resides just north of the Sun's south pole near the ecliptic.
It's a magnetic brown dwarf with unusual moon swirls in 2 "tails", which is why ancient cultures depicted it as a winged planet.
It's a magnetic powerhouse, which is why the Sun is uncharacteristically sunspot/activity quiet now -- the interloping planet has it's south pole pointing at the sun.
The magma of the Earth is very responsive to a magnetic field, ...it roils due to the magnetic influence of this planet causing the Earth's crust to heat up -- hence, Global Warming.
That simple.
Don't look for the evidence of this in normal news channels, they are not allowed to report on this, neither are the astronauts or the astronomical observatories.
Crow.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28501701</id>
	<title>Re:It is difficult to say who is right</title>
	<author>avilliers</author>
	<datestamp>1246219560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But you've now lost all correlation between the two cycles, which was the driving force for the hypothesis.

Scientifically, this is like suspecting someone of a murder solely because an eyewitness placed him at the crime; proving the eyewitness was mistaken; then, insisting he could still be the murderer because no one has proven he wasn't there.  I mean, sure, that's technically true, but it's not a very promising lead anymore, is it?

Going back to the science, to support the original hypothesis you'd probably need hard evidence to validate that cosmic rays really do cause climate change, then additionally show it's at least plausible that the cycles do line up, best measurements to contrary.

Incidentally, I don't have any great knowledge of astronomy, but I do suspect the 'models' of the Milky Way have smaller error bars than you imply.  It'd take a lot of energy to change the momentum of something that big, and if we collided with something that big we should still be able to see it . . .</htmltext>
<tokenext>But you 've now lost all correlation between the two cycles , which was the driving force for the hypothesis .
Scientifically , this is like suspecting someone of a murder solely because an eyewitness placed him at the crime ; proving the eyewitness was mistaken ; then , insisting he could still be the murderer because no one has proven he was n't there .
I mean , sure , that 's technically true , but it 's not a very promising lead anymore , is it ?
Going back to the science , to support the original hypothesis you 'd probably need hard evidence to validate that cosmic rays really do cause climate change , then additionally show it 's at least plausible that the cycles do line up , best measurements to contrary .
Incidentally , I do n't have any great knowledge of astronomy , but I do suspect the 'models ' of the Milky Way have smaller error bars than you imply .
It 'd take a lot of energy to change the momentum of something that big , and if we collided with something that big we should still be able to see it .
. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But you've now lost all correlation between the two cycles, which was the driving force for the hypothesis.
Scientifically, this is like suspecting someone of a murder solely because an eyewitness placed him at the crime; proving the eyewitness was mistaken; then, insisting he could still be the murderer because no one has proven he wasn't there.
I mean, sure, that's technically true, but it's not a very promising lead anymore, is it?
Going back to the science, to support the original hypothesis you'd probably need hard evidence to validate that cosmic rays really do cause climate change, then additionally show it's at least plausible that the cycles do line up, best measurements to contrary.
Incidentally, I don't have any great knowledge of astronomy, but I do suspect the 'models' of the Milky Way have smaller error bars than you imply.
It'd take a lot of energy to change the momentum of something that big, and if we collided with something that big we should still be able to see it .
. .</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490677</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490677</id>
	<title>It is difficult to say who is right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246028880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Both Shaviv's and Melott's  papers are based upon models of the Milky Way that are built from observations taken from a single point in the universe, and made during a negligible time frame. This model is then kept valid and unchanged for a timeframe of about 1.000.000.000 years, neglecting for example errors in measuring accelerations of the galaxy and of the solar system, the 3D structure of the galaxy, dark matter influence (and existence...) on the motion of the galaxy, etc. Still too much unknowns before reaching a definite answer, isn't it ?!?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Both Shaviv 's and Melott 's papers are based upon models of the Milky Way that are built from observations taken from a single point in the universe , and made during a negligible time frame .
This model is then kept valid and unchanged for a timeframe of about 1.000.000.000 years , neglecting for example errors in measuring accelerations of the galaxy and of the solar system , the 3D structure of the galaxy , dark matter influence ( and existence... ) on the motion of the galaxy , etc .
Still too much unknowns before reaching a definite answer , is n't it ? !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Both Shaviv's and Melott's  papers are based upon models of the Milky Way that are built from observations taken from a single point in the universe, and made during a negligible time frame.
This model is then kept valid and unchanged for a timeframe of about 1.000.000.000 years, neglecting for example errors in measuring accelerations of the galaxy and of the solar system, the 3D structure of the galaxy, dark matter influence (and existence...) on the motion of the galaxy, etc.
Still too much unknowns before reaching a definite answer, isn't it ?!
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28492767</id>
	<title>summary wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246093620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the sun doesn't move through the spiral arms, the spiral arms move past the sun.</p><p>It's just a density wave.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the sun does n't move through the spiral arms , the spiral arms move past the sun.It 's just a density wave .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the sun doesn't move through the spiral arms, the spiral arms move past the sun.It's just a density wave.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490949</id>
	<title>Just invalidates Cosmic Ray cloud seeding.</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1246032000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of the invalidations of these spaced theories tend to focus on the effects of cloud formation by cosmic rays, but are they so sure that these are the only effects that space could have? Space is pretty big, and the earth is pretty complex, and I would be willing to bet that there's going to be something out there in space, besides the obvious asteroid, that screws us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of the invalidations of these spaced theories tend to focus on the effects of cloud formation by cosmic rays , but are they so sure that these are the only effects that space could have ?
Space is pretty big , and the earth is pretty complex , and I would be willing to bet that there 's going to be something out there in space , besides the obvious asteroid , that screws us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of the invalidations of these spaced theories tend to focus on the effects of cloud formation by cosmic rays, but are they so sure that these are the only effects that space could have?
Space is pretty big, and the earth is pretty complex, and I would be willing to bet that there's going to be something out there in space, besides the obvious asteroid, that screws us.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490667</id>
	<title>Farnsworth exists?</title>
	<author>russlar</author>
	<datestamp>1246028760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a hunch that the scientist that first theorized this prefaced it with "Good news, everyone!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a hunch that the scientist that first theorized this prefaced it with " Good news , everyone !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a hunch that the scientist that first theorized this prefaced it with "Good news, everyone!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490643</id>
	<title>You know what this means?</title>
	<author>Kenja</author>
	<datestamp>1246028400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It must be the unicorns fault!<br> <br>I mean... it cant be us. Right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It must be the unicorns fault !
I mean... it cant be us .
Right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It must be the unicorns fault!
I mean... it cant be us.
Right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490393</id>
	<title>Climatologists struggle to stay relevant</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246025820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bummer about how the Sun is more responsible for global warming than people.  Bummer how the latest economic crunch sent all the "green" masturbators back to their basements.  Whats next, are you going to get us worried about meteors and comets hitting the planet?  Maybe DDT, or Swine Flu?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bummer about how the Sun is more responsible for global warming than people .
Bummer how the latest economic crunch sent all the " green " masturbators back to their basements .
Whats next , are you going to get us worried about meteors and comets hitting the planet ?
Maybe DDT , or Swine Flu ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bummer about how the Sun is more responsible for global warming than people.
Bummer how the latest economic crunch sent all the "green" masturbators back to their basements.
Whats next, are you going to get us worried about meteors and comets hitting the planet?
Maybe DDT, or Swine Flu?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490497</id>
	<title>Heh</title>
	<author>Kingrames</author>
	<datestamp>1246026720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is the very technical (and long-winded) explanation for something along the lines of "We are telling you, Miss Daisy, that your cat was not put into that tree by giant ninja robots from outer space."</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the very technical ( and long-winded ) explanation for something along the lines of " We are telling you , Miss Daisy , that your cat was not put into that tree by giant ninja robots from outer space .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the very technical (and long-winded) explanation for something along the lines of "We are telling you, Miss Daisy, that your cat was not put into that tree by giant ninja robots from outer space.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28495433</id>
	<title>the actual cause of global warming.</title>
	<author>Cr0vv</author>
	<datestamp>1246123440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The actual cause of global warming, is a planet in the solar system that Nasa warned us about in 1983 (Washington Post) but was quickly repressed by the Government.  Since then, the planet has progressed in it's sling orbit through our solar system.  Currently, it resides just north of the Sun's south pole near the ecliptic.  It's a magnetic brown dwarf with unusual moon swirls in 2 "tails", which is why ancient cultures depicted it as a winged planet.  It's a magnetic powerhouse, which is why the Sun is uncharacteristically sunspot/activity quiet now -- the interloping planet has it's north pole pointing at the sun.
The magma of the Earth is very responsive to a magnetic field;  it roils due to the magnetic influence of this planet causing the Earth's crust to heat up -- hence, Global Warming.  That simple.
Don't look for the evidence of this in normal news channels, they are not allowed to report on this, neither are the astronauts or the astronomical observatories.
Crow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The actual cause of global warming , is a planet in the solar system that Nasa warned us about in 1983 ( Washington Post ) but was quickly repressed by the Government .
Since then , the planet has progressed in it 's sling orbit through our solar system .
Currently , it resides just north of the Sun 's south pole near the ecliptic .
It 's a magnetic brown dwarf with unusual moon swirls in 2 " tails " , which is why ancient cultures depicted it as a winged planet .
It 's a magnetic powerhouse , which is why the Sun is uncharacteristically sunspot/activity quiet now -- the interloping planet has it 's north pole pointing at the sun .
The magma of the Earth is very responsive to a magnetic field ; it roils due to the magnetic influence of this planet causing the Earth 's crust to heat up -- hence , Global Warming .
That simple .
Do n't look for the evidence of this in normal news channels , they are not allowed to report on this , neither are the astronauts or the astronomical observatories .
Crow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The actual cause of global warming, is a planet in the solar system that Nasa warned us about in 1983 (Washington Post) but was quickly repressed by the Government.
Since then, the planet has progressed in it's sling orbit through our solar system.
Currently, it resides just north of the Sun's south pole near the ecliptic.
It's a magnetic brown dwarf with unusual moon swirls in 2 "tails", which is why ancient cultures depicted it as a winged planet.
It's a magnetic powerhouse, which is why the Sun is uncharacteristically sunspot/activity quiet now -- the interloping planet has it's north pole pointing at the sun.
The magma of the Earth is very responsive to a magnetic field;  it roils due to the magnetic influence of this planet causing the Earth's crust to heat up -- hence, Global Warming.
That simple.
Don't look for the evidence of this in normal news channels, they are not allowed to report on this, neither are the astronauts or the astronomical observatories.
Crow.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28492999</id>
	<title>DOOMED</title>
	<author>lazy genes</author>
	<datestamp>1246096140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>  Looks like all the dust and emission particles are warming the sea surface temperatures. On our planet warmer water moves to the poles (  Quantum Information on a sphere in space moves to the poles). Its all fine and dandy until the arctic ocean fills with warm water and starts to evaporate into clouds. If the arctic is ice free in the winter the northern hemisphere will be measuring snow depth in kilometers instead of inches. Prior glacial maximums could have been caused by our planet moving through a dust cloud.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like all the dust and emission particles are warming the sea surface temperatures .
On our planet warmer water moves to the poles ( Quantum Information on a sphere in space moves to the poles ) .
Its all fine and dandy until the arctic ocean fills with warm water and starts to evaporate into clouds .
If the arctic is ice free in the winter the northern hemisphere will be measuring snow depth in kilometers instead of inches .
Prior glacial maximums could have been caused by our planet moving through a dust cloud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  Looks like all the dust and emission particles are warming the sea surface temperatures.
On our planet warmer water moves to the poles (  Quantum Information on a sphere in space moves to the poles).
Its all fine and dandy until the arctic ocean fills with warm water and starts to evaporate into clouds.
If the arctic is ice free in the winter the northern hemisphere will be measuring snow depth in kilometers instead of inches.
Prior glacial maximums could have been caused by our planet moving through a dust cloud.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490549</id>
	<title>Re:Climatologists struggle to stay relevant</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1246027140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And normal cell proliferation causes most cancers, but smoking is still a bad idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And normal cell proliferation causes most cancers , but smoking is still a bad idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And normal cell proliferation causes most cancers, but smoking is still a bad idea.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490437</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28495019</id>
	<title>Re:You know what this means?</title>
	<author>overunderunderdone</author>
	<datestamp>1246120140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well yes, a 140 million year cycle can't be us.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well yes , a 140 million year cycle ca n't be us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well yes, a 140 million year cycle can't be us.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490643</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28492323</id>
	<title>Re:Since these comments are going to suck....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246045200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>273 billion tons is surely enough to cover the whole country with a two meter thick layer of coal sludge.  You know, the stuff that remains after the "clean" coal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>273 billion tons is surely enough to cover the whole country with a two meter thick layer of coal sludge .
You know , the stuff that remains after the " clean " coal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>273 billion tons is surely enough to cover the whole country with a two meter thick layer of coal sludge.
You know, the stuff that remains after the "clean" coal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490913</id>
	<title>Ok Once more</title>
	<author>sparhawktn</author>
	<datestamp>1246031640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok once more for those people playing along in Rio Linda<br> <br>
Any change in the earths temperature, heat wave or ice age, is cause by that great big ball of gas 93 million miles away it's a little thing we like to call the SUN!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok once more for those people playing along in Rio Linda Any change in the earths temperature , heat wave or ice age , is cause by that great big ball of gas 93 million miles away it 's a little thing we like to call the SUN !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok once more for those people playing along in Rio Linda 
Any change in the earths temperature, heat wave or ice age, is cause by that great big ball of gas 93 million miles away it's a little thing we like to call the SUN!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28494051</id>
	<title>Re:It is difficult to say who is right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246111440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Translation:<br>Their model and observations aren't perfect therefore I who propose no model and have made no observation is right and they are wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Translation : Their model and observations are n't perfect therefore I who propose no model and have made no observation is right and they are wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Translation:Their model and observations aren't perfect therefore I who propose no model and have made no observation is right and they are wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490563</id>
	<title>Re:Since these comments are going to suck....</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1246027260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Let's get off oil if for nothing else, to bankrupt every middle eastern country out there.</p></div><p>On the other hand, the only middle eastern countries that don't want to nuke the US to hell are those which are rich off oil.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's get off oil if for nothing else , to bankrupt every middle eastern country out there.On the other hand , the only middle eastern countries that do n't want to nuke the US to hell are those which are rich off oil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's get off oil if for nothing else, to bankrupt every middle eastern country out there.On the other hand, the only middle eastern countries that don't want to nuke the US to hell are those which are rich off oil.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490615</id>
	<title>Hold on there, Wilbur</title>
	<author>uassholes</author>
	<datestamp>1246027860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I took a look at it: <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0906.2777" title="arxiv.org" rel="nofollow">http://arxiv.org/abs/0906.2777</a> [arxiv.org] <p> They're jumping to conclusions.  It will be 140 million years before we have enough data to decide.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I took a look at it : http : //arxiv.org/abs/0906.2777 [ arxiv.org ] They 're jumping to conclusions .
It will be 140 million years before we have enough data to decide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I took a look at it: http://arxiv.org/abs/0906.2777 [arxiv.org]  They're jumping to conclusions.
It will be 140 million years before we have enough data to decide.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490629</id>
	<title>Maybe...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246028280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>They've eliminated one pattern.  They don't know if there might be something else, such as moving through the parts where the grues are.  The grues move around, and the astronomers haven't spotted where they tend to be.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've eliminated one pattern .
They do n't know if there might be something else , such as moving through the parts where the grues are .
The grues move around , and the astronomers have n't spotted where they tend to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've eliminated one pattern.
They don't know if there might be something else, such as moving through the parts where the grues are.
The grues move around, and the astronomers haven't spotted where they tend to be.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28493571</id>
	<title>Re:Since these comments are going to suck....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246104060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Because now the political "we don't cause GW" arguments will begin, and the bickering....</p><p>...</p></div><p>You fucking <b>EARNED</b> it.</p><p>And by "you" I mean all the jump-on-the-bandwagon PleaseSaveGaiaFromTheEvilHumansWhoAreDestroyingTheWorld(EspeciallyTheUS!!!!) smug loudmouthed <b>TWITS</b> who <b>WANTED TO POLITICIZE GLOBAL WARMING</b> and a whole lot of other science, too.</p><p>Well, <b>YOU GOT YOUR WISH</b>.</p><p>Jackasses.</p><p>Too bad for you the majority of people in the world don't think humanity inherently damages the planet, and they sure as hell aren't willing to sacrifice their standard of living for <b>YOUR</b> "man is teh EVIL (especially Americans!)" ideals.</p><p>Too bad for you.</p><p>So fuck off.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because now the political " we do n't cause GW " arguments will begin , and the bickering.......You fucking EARNED it.And by " you " I mean all the jump-on-the-bandwagon PleaseSaveGaiaFromTheEvilHumansWhoAreDestroyingTheWorld ( EspeciallyTheUS ! ! ! !
) smug loudmouthed TWITS who WANTED TO POLITICIZE GLOBAL WARMING and a whole lot of other science , too.Well , YOU GOT YOUR WISH.Jackasses.Too bad for you the majority of people in the world do n't think humanity inherently damages the planet , and they sure as hell are n't willing to sacrifice their standard of living for YOUR " man is teh EVIL ( especially Americans !
) " ideals.Too bad for you.So fuck off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because now the political "we don't cause GW" arguments will begin, and the bickering.......You fucking EARNED it.And by "you" I mean all the jump-on-the-bandwagon PleaseSaveGaiaFromTheEvilHumansWhoAreDestroyingTheWorld(EspeciallyTheUS!!!!
) smug loudmouthed TWITS who WANTED TO POLITICIZE GLOBAL WARMING and a whole lot of other science, too.Well, YOU GOT YOUR WISH.Jackasses.Too bad for you the majority of people in the world don't think humanity inherently damages the planet, and they sure as hell aren't willing to sacrifice their standard of living for YOUR "man is teh EVIL (especially Americans!
)" ideals.Too bad for you.So fuck off.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28494857</id>
	<title>Re:Heh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246119060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>giant ninja robots from outer space</p></div></blockquote><p>I just shat bricks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>giant ninja robots from outer spaceI just shat bricks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>giant ninja robots from outer spaceI just shat bricks.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28494733</id>
	<title>Re:Not Arms</title>
	<author>Thelasko</author>
	<datestamp>1246117920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This too has been suggested as being involved in extinctions, since the galactic plane is denser than the regions outside it.</p></div><p>One of the theories that makes sense to me is the increased chances for asteroid strike.   This paper doesn't seem to touch on that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This too has been suggested as being involved in extinctions , since the galactic plane is denser than the regions outside it.One of the theories that makes sense to me is the increased chances for asteroid strike .
This paper does n't seem to touch on that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This too has been suggested as being involved in extinctions, since the galactic plane is denser than the regions outside it.One of the theories that makes sense to me is the increased chances for asteroid strike.
This paper doesn't seem to touch on that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28491787</id>
	<title>Cosmic clock?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246039920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe 140 million years is the limit of the cosmic time register.  When the clock resets, the climate control system doesn't work properly for a bit until they patch it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe 140 million years is the limit of the cosmic time register .
When the clock resets , the climate control system does n't work properly for a bit until they patch it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe 140 million years is the limit of the cosmic time register.
When the clock resets, the climate control system doesn't work properly for a bit until they patch it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490585</id>
	<title>Re:Since these comments are going to suck....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246027560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Where is the national security in forcing any remaining manufacturers offshore where they don't have to deal with carbon credits and higher electrical costs?
</p><p>
The US has 273 billion tons of proven coal reserves, far more than any other country, and that coal can be liquefactioned into gasoline.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where is the national security in forcing any remaining manufacturers offshore where they do n't have to deal with carbon credits and higher electrical costs ?
The US has 273 billion tons of proven coal reserves , far more than any other country , and that coal can be liquefactioned into gasoline .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Where is the national security in forcing any remaining manufacturers offshore where they don't have to deal with carbon credits and higher electrical costs?
The US has 273 billion tons of proven coal reserves, far more than any other country, and that coal can be liquefactioned into gasoline.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28492983</id>
	<title>Re:Since these comments are going to suck....</title>
	<author>BlueStrat</author>
	<datestamp>1246095900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Where is the national security in forcing any remaining manufacturers offshore where they don't have to deal with carbon credits and higher electrical costs? </i></p><p>That's the elephant in the room that they don't want anyone to notice. Once the cap &amp; tax hits, any business that can leave, will. Those that can't will raise their prices to consumers and if unable to maintain sufficient sales because nobody will be able to afford to buy anything, they will fail and disappear. These price increases will include everything, including food.</p><p>Other countries like India, China, Japan, Russia, etc are not silly enough to cripple themselves in this way. The USA will become a third- or fourth-rate economy with an unemployed, over-taxed, freezing &amp; starving population ruled over by a semi-socialist, semi-fascist government.</p><p>One bright spot though. The illegal immigration problem will disappear and eventually reverse itself as Americans start fleeing south &amp; north to escape the horrible economic conditions and oppression. Of course, *then* the government will build the fences on the borders and move troops to guard it, but it will be to prevent people leaving.</p><p>Get ready baby, 'cuz here it comes!</p><p>Unless of course the people finally wake the **** up and throw all the current politicians out, by force if need be. I've a bad feeling that if the politicians saw that the people really were determined to clean house in Washington and stopped paying their propaganda any attention, they'd find a pretext to declare martial law or something.</p><p>Strat</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where is the national security in forcing any remaining manufacturers offshore where they do n't have to deal with carbon credits and higher electrical costs ?
That 's the elephant in the room that they do n't want anyone to notice .
Once the cap &amp; tax hits , any business that can leave , will .
Those that ca n't will raise their prices to consumers and if unable to maintain sufficient sales because nobody will be able to afford to buy anything , they will fail and disappear .
These price increases will include everything , including food.Other countries like India , China , Japan , Russia , etc are not silly enough to cripple themselves in this way .
The USA will become a third- or fourth-rate economy with an unemployed , over-taxed , freezing &amp; starving population ruled over by a semi-socialist , semi-fascist government.One bright spot though .
The illegal immigration problem will disappear and eventually reverse itself as Americans start fleeing south &amp; north to escape the horrible economic conditions and oppression .
Of course , * then * the government will build the fences on the borders and move troops to guard it , but it will be to prevent people leaving.Get ready baby , 'cuz here it comes ! Unless of course the people finally wake the * * * * up and throw all the current politicians out , by force if need be .
I 've a bad feeling that if the politicians saw that the people really were determined to clean house in Washington and stopped paying their propaganda any attention , they 'd find a pretext to declare martial law or something.Strat</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where is the national security in forcing any remaining manufacturers offshore where they don't have to deal with carbon credits and higher electrical costs?
That's the elephant in the room that they don't want anyone to notice.
Once the cap &amp; tax hits, any business that can leave, will.
Those that can't will raise their prices to consumers and if unable to maintain sufficient sales because nobody will be able to afford to buy anything, they will fail and disappear.
These price increases will include everything, including food.Other countries like India, China, Japan, Russia, etc are not silly enough to cripple themselves in this way.
The USA will become a third- or fourth-rate economy with an unemployed, over-taxed, freezing &amp; starving population ruled over by a semi-socialist, semi-fascist government.One bright spot though.
The illegal immigration problem will disappear and eventually reverse itself as Americans start fleeing south &amp; north to escape the horrible economic conditions and oppression.
Of course, *then* the government will build the fences on the borders and move troops to guard it, but it will be to prevent people leaving.Get ready baby, 'cuz here it comes!Unless of course the people finally wake the **** up and throw all the current politicians out, by force if need be.
I've a bad feeling that if the politicians saw that the people really were determined to clean house in Washington and stopped paying their propaganda any attention, they'd find a pretext to declare martial law or something.Strat</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28492031</id>
	<title>Re:Since these comments are going to suck....</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1246041960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Let's get off oil if for nothing else, to bankrupt every middle eastern country out there.</p></div><p>Suppose I don't care to bankrupt myself in order to bankrupt every Middle Eastern country out there? And how does destroying the US economy help national security? Frankly, the current situation isn't that bad to warrant such action.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's get off oil if for nothing else , to bankrupt every middle eastern country out there.Suppose I do n't care to bankrupt myself in order to bankrupt every Middle Eastern country out there ?
And how does destroying the US economy help national security ?
Frankly , the current situation is n't that bad to warrant such action .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's get off oil if for nothing else, to bankrupt every middle eastern country out there.Suppose I don't care to bankrupt myself in order to bankrupt every Middle Eastern country out there?
And how does destroying the US economy help national security?
Frankly, the current situation isn't that bad to warrant such action.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490963</id>
	<title>Re:Climatologists struggle to stay relevant</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246032060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The first 300 degrees Kelvin due to the sun might be all well and good, but when you add 20 degrees more by man-made causes you get big problems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The first 300 degrees Kelvin due to the sun might be all well and good , but when you add 20 degrees more by man-made causes you get big problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The first 300 degrees Kelvin due to the sun might be all well and good, but when you add 20 degrees more by man-made causes you get big problems.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490489</id>
	<title>Since these comments are going to suck....</title>
	<author>HerculesMO</author>
	<datestamp>1246026660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because now the political "we don't cause GW" arguments will begin, and the bickering....</p><p>It shouldn't even be about global warming. It should be about national security. If you have no renewable resources, and rely on other (enemy) nations to provide that stuff to you and your way of life, you have a severe problem.</p><p>Let's get off oil if for nothing else, to bankrupt every middle eastern country out there. We won't bother maintaining a presence there if there's nothing to take advantage of.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because now the political " we do n't cause GW " arguments will begin , and the bickering....It should n't even be about global warming .
It should be about national security .
If you have no renewable resources , and rely on other ( enemy ) nations to provide that stuff to you and your way of life , you have a severe problem.Let 's get off oil if for nothing else , to bankrupt every middle eastern country out there .
We wo n't bother maintaining a presence there if there 's nothing to take advantage of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because now the political "we don't cause GW" arguments will begin, and the bickering....It shouldn't even be about global warming.
It should be about national security.
If you have no renewable resources, and rely on other (enemy) nations to provide that stuff to you and your way of life, you have a severe problem.Let's get off oil if for nothing else, to bankrupt every middle eastern country out there.
We won't bother maintaining a presence there if there's nothing to take advantage of.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28490437</id>
	<title>Re:Climatologists struggle to stay relevant</title>
	<author>Mr. Slippery</author>
	<datestamp>1246026120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>Bummer about how the Sun is more responsible for global warming than people.</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>So what? Heart disease is more responsible for human deaths than murder, and yet we still take action against murderers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bummer about how the Sun is more responsible for global warming than people .
So what ?
Heart disease is more responsible for human deaths than murder , and yet we still take action against murderers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Bummer about how the Sun is more responsible for global warming than people.
So what?
Heart disease is more responsible for human deaths than murder, and yet we still take action against murderers.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2331213.28495451</id>
	<title>Re:Since these comments are going to suck....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246123620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Man did cause a climate change, but not because of CFC's or other greenhouse gasses. To prove this... just walk around barefoot on a day when temperatures are in the mid 80's and mostly sunny, around say 1pm to 3pm in the afternoon, in other words, not too cold, but not extremely hot either.</p><p>Notice the sun isn't any hotter as far as overall ambient air temperature. Notice that the concrete isn't any hotter, it may be hot but not severe enough to cause pain right away. Notice that sand and dirt isn't any hotter, it may burn but it's still tolerable to walk on. Notice that gravel-like asphalt isn't any hotter, it may burn and be extremely hot, but walking quickly enough is still doable.</p><p>Now, notice that any asphalt surface that has been "slurry sealed" is insanely hot. Even walking on it burns after just a few steps and continuing to walk on it will very likely result in blistered soles in just a few more steps unless the burning stops, soon. Also pay attention to going into the shade after the burning has started still results in a lasting burning sensation on the soles, meaning that the surface absorbed and also transferred heat very effectively. Infrared thermometer readings early in the day show the surface temperature to already be around 118 to 120 degrees F and later on may be as high as 130 to 140+ degrees F.</p><p>Pay close attention again to just how many areas (shopping centers, office areas with parking lots) have redone their parking lots as slurry seal. Well, all of that slurry seal is absorbing the heat of the sun and radiating it back into the air. Also notice a severe lack of any significant trees or bushes in those areas with slurry seal parking lots.</p><p>(And the whole reason for the barefoot test is because with modern shoes, there is no real knowledge of just how much heat that slurry seal surface is absorbing, radiating, and transferring.)</p><p>There's the localized root cause of global warming/climate change folks. Greenhouse gasses and holes in the ozone layer at the poles do not immediately translate to a localized warming in a given area. Search on something like "asphalt jungle" and find even more proof of this being one factor in so-called warming/climate change.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Man did cause a climate change , but not because of CFC 's or other greenhouse gasses .
To prove this... just walk around barefoot on a day when temperatures are in the mid 80 's and mostly sunny , around say 1pm to 3pm in the afternoon , in other words , not too cold , but not extremely hot either.Notice the sun is n't any hotter as far as overall ambient air temperature .
Notice that the concrete is n't any hotter , it may be hot but not severe enough to cause pain right away .
Notice that sand and dirt is n't any hotter , it may burn but it 's still tolerable to walk on .
Notice that gravel-like asphalt is n't any hotter , it may burn and be extremely hot , but walking quickly enough is still doable.Now , notice that any asphalt surface that has been " slurry sealed " is insanely hot .
Even walking on it burns after just a few steps and continuing to walk on it will very likely result in blistered soles in just a few more steps unless the burning stops , soon .
Also pay attention to going into the shade after the burning has started still results in a lasting burning sensation on the soles , meaning that the surface absorbed and also transferred heat very effectively .
Infrared thermometer readings early in the day show the surface temperature to already be around 118 to 120 degrees F and later on may be as high as 130 to 140 + degrees F.Pay close attention again to just how many areas ( shopping centers , office areas with parking lots ) have redone their parking lots as slurry seal .
Well , all of that slurry seal is absorbing the heat of the sun and radiating it back into the air .
Also notice a severe lack of any significant trees or bushes in those areas with slurry seal parking lots .
( And the whole reason for the barefoot test is because with modern shoes , there is no real knowledge of just how much heat that slurry seal surface is absorbing , radiating , and transferring .
) There 's the localized root cause of global warming/climate change folks .
Greenhouse gasses and holes in the ozone layer at the poles do not immediately translate to a localized warming in a given area .
Search on something like " asphalt jungle " and find even more proof of this being one factor in so-called warming/climate change .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man did cause a climate change, but not because of CFC's or other greenhouse gasses.
To prove this... just walk around barefoot on a day when temperatures are in the mid 80's and mostly sunny, around say 1pm to 3pm in the afternoon, in other words, not too cold, but not extremely hot either.Notice the sun isn't any hotter as far as overall ambient air temperature.
Notice that the concrete isn't any hotter, it may be hot but not severe enough to cause pain right away.
Notice that sand and dirt isn't any hotter, it may burn but it's still tolerable to walk on.
Notice that gravel-like asphalt isn't any hotter, it may burn and be extremely hot, but walking quickly enough is still doable.Now, notice that any asphalt surface that has been "slurry sealed" is insanely hot.
Even walking on it burns after just a few steps and continuing to walk on it will very likely result in blistered soles in just a few more steps unless the burning stops, soon.
Also pay attention to going into the shade after the burning has started still results in a lasting burning sensation on the soles, meaning that the surface absorbed and also transferred heat very effectively.
Infrared thermometer readings early in the day show the surface temperature to already be around 118 to 120 degrees F and later on may be as high as 130 to 140+ degrees F.Pay close attention again to just how many areas (shopping centers, office areas with parking lots) have redone their parking lots as slurry seal.
Well, all of that slurry seal is absorbing the heat of the sun and radiating it back into the air.
Also notice a severe lack of any significant trees or bushes in those areas with slurry seal parking lots.
(And the whole reason for the barefoot test is because with modern shoes, there is no real knowledge of just how much heat that slurry seal surface is absorbing, radiating, and transferring.
)There's the localized root cause of global warming/climate change folks.
Greenhouse gasses and holes in the ozone layer at the poles do not immediately translate to a localized warming in a given area.
Search on something like "asphalt jungle" and find even more proof of this being one factor in so-called warming/climate change.</sentencetext>
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