<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_26_1244234</id>
	<title>Solar Plane To Make Public Debut</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1246029300000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:vig@gatech.edu" rel="nofollow">vigmeister</a> writes <i>"Swiss adventurer Bertrand Piccard has <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8120026.stm">unveiled a prototype of the solar-powered plane</a> he hopes eventually to fly around the world. The initial version, spanning 61m but weighing just 1,500kg, will undergo trials to prove it can fly at night. Dr. Piccard, who made history by circling the globe non-stop in a balloon in 1999, says he wants to demonstrate the potential of renewable energies. He expects to make a crossing of the Atlantic in 2012. The HB-SIA has the look of a glider but is on the scale of a modern airliner. The airplane incorporates composite materials to keep it extremely light and uses super-efficient solar cells, batteries, motors, and propellers to get it through the dark hours. The public unveiling on Friday of the HB-SIA took place at Dubendorf airfield near Z&#252;rich."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>vigmeister writes " Swiss adventurer Bertrand Piccard has unveiled a prototype of the solar-powered plane he hopes eventually to fly around the world .
The initial version , spanning 61m but weighing just 1,500kg , will undergo trials to prove it can fly at night .
Dr. Piccard , who made history by circling the globe non-stop in a balloon in 1999 , says he wants to demonstrate the potential of renewable energies .
He expects to make a crossing of the Atlantic in 2012 .
The HB-SIA has the look of a glider but is on the scale of a modern airliner .
The airplane incorporates composite materials to keep it extremely light and uses super-efficient solar cells , batteries , motors , and propellers to get it through the dark hours .
The public unveiling on Friday of the HB-SIA took place at Dubendorf airfield near Z   rich .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>vigmeister writes "Swiss adventurer Bertrand Piccard has unveiled a prototype of the solar-powered plane he hopes eventually to fly around the world.
The initial version, spanning 61m but weighing just 1,500kg, will undergo trials to prove it can fly at night.
Dr. Piccard, who made history by circling the globe non-stop in a balloon in 1999, says he wants to demonstrate the potential of renewable energies.
He expects to make a crossing of the Atlantic in 2012.
The HB-SIA has the look of a glider but is on the scale of a modern airliner.
The airplane incorporates composite materials to keep it extremely light and uses super-efficient solar cells, batteries, motors, and propellers to get it through the dark hours.
The public unveiling on Friday of the HB-SIA took place at Dubendorf airfield near Zürich.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483235</id>
	<title>Autopilot?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246033380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the article:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>"The aeroplane could do it theoretically non-stop - but not the pilot," said Dr Piccard. </p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>""In a balloon you can sleep, because it stays in the air even if you sleep. We believe the maximum for one pilot is five days." </p></div><p>Seems autopilot should be the least complicated part of this endeavor, especially considering that there have already been several unmanned solar powered aircraft demonstrated already. Turn on the autopilot and catch some Z's.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the article : " The aeroplane could do it theoretically non-stop - but not the pilot , " said Dr Piccard .
" " In a balloon you can sleep , because it stays in the air even if you sleep .
We believe the maximum for one pilot is five days .
" Seems autopilot should be the least complicated part of this endeavor , especially considering that there have already been several unmanned solar powered aircraft demonstrated already .
Turn on the autopilot and catch some Z 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the article:"The aeroplane could do it theoretically non-stop - but not the pilot," said Dr Piccard.
""In a balloon you can sleep, because it stays in the air even if you sleep.
We believe the maximum for one pilot is five days.
" Seems autopilot should be the least complicated part of this endeavor, especially considering that there have already been several unmanned solar powered aircraft demonstrated already.
Turn on the autopilot and catch some Z's.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483859</id>
	<title>Solar-powered plane makes me think of one thing...</title>
	<author>Tetsujin</author>
	<datestamp>1246035480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Captain PLAAANEEET!</p><p>'Cause the Planeteers had one, or something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Captain PLAAANEEET !
'Cause the Planeteers had one , or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Captain PLAAANEEET!
'Cause the Planeteers had one, or something.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483401</id>
	<title>I need to get me one of those</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246033860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It will likely need some back up form of propulsion though. Which to pick; solid or liquid fuel rockets?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It will likely need some back up form of propulsion though .
Which to pick ; solid or liquid fuel rockets ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will likely need some back up form of propulsion though.
Which to pick; solid or liquid fuel rockets?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28484157</id>
	<title>Re:Faster plane</title>
	<author>CanadianRealist</author>
	<datestamp>1246036680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's really not much chance of achieving that - it would have to be much much faster.</p><p>The circumference of the earth is about 40 000 km. If you could start first thing in the morning, and arrive by nightfall the next day, that would allow a maximum of about 36 hours. I really don't see a solar powered plan managing 1111 km/hr.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's really not much chance of achieving that - it would have to be much much faster.The circumference of the earth is about 40 000 km .
If you could start first thing in the morning , and arrive by nightfall the next day , that would allow a maximum of about 36 hours .
I really do n't see a solar powered plan managing 1111 km/hr .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's really not much chance of achieving that - it would have to be much much faster.The circumference of the earth is about 40 000 km.
If you could start first thing in the morning, and arrive by nightfall the next day, that would allow a maximum of about 36 hours.
I really don't see a solar powered plan managing 1111 km/hr.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483981</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28484791</id>
	<title>Re:Neat, but..</title>
	<author>OolimPhon</author>
	<datestamp>1246038840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good luck getting your moped to go across any water, or over rugged mountain ranges.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good luck getting your moped to go across any water , or over rugged mountain ranges .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good luck getting your moped to go across any water, or over rugged mountain ranges.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483887</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28503995</id>
	<title>There is no reason to go trough the night!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1246205760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just follow the sun. "Heliostationary" relative to earth, if you will.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just follow the sun .
" Heliostationary " relative to earth , if you will .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just follow the sun.
"Heliostationary" relative to earth, if you will.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28484969</id>
	<title>Re:Faster plane</title>
	<author>blind biker</author>
	<datestamp>1246039500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only solution is climbing high enough during sun-hours, and sailing during night-time. Until we invent new power storage technology, such as super-flywheels or such.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only solution is climbing high enough during sun-hours , and sailing during night-time .
Until we invent new power storage technology , such as super-flywheels or such .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only solution is climbing high enough during sun-hours, and sailing during night-time.
Until we invent new power storage technology, such as super-flywheels or such.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28484157</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483887</id>
	<title>Neat, but..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246035600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>am I the only one not too impressed by the flight speed of 25MPH?  Seems a little crappy to spend all this money on a plane when you could get a used moped and go faster.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>am I the only one not too impressed by the flight speed of 25MPH ?
Seems a little crappy to spend all this money on a plane when you could get a used moped and go faster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>am I the only one not too impressed by the flight speed of 25MPH?
Seems a little crappy to spend all this money on a plane when you could get a used moped and go faster.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483539</id>
	<title>Re:They solved the night flying problem nicely</title>
	<author>fredrikj</author>
	<datestamp>1246034340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah, the heat from the lamps causes the air to rise, providing upward suction on the wings. Brilliant!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , the heat from the lamps causes the air to rise , providing upward suction on the wings .
Brilliant !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, the heat from the lamps causes the air to rise, providing upward suction on the wings.
Brilliant!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483299</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28484819</id>
	<title>Can I drive it?</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1246038960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's no good unless I can drive it like a car!</p><p>SOMEONE give me the flying car I was promised!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's no good unless I can drive it like a car ! SOMEONE give me the flying car I was promised !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's no good unless I can drive it like a car!SOMEONE give me the flying car I was promised!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28485169</id>
	<title>Dr. Piccard?</title>
	<author>slapout</author>
	<datestamp>1246040280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jean-Luc and Beverly's son?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jean-Luc and Beverly 's son ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jean-Luc and Beverly's son?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483153</id>
	<title>Helios</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246033140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reminds me of the Helios project back in 2001.
<a href="http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap010831.html" title="nasa.gov" rel="nofollow">http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap010831.html</a> [nasa.gov]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of the Helios project back in 2001 . http : //apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap010831.html [ nasa.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of the Helios project back in 2001.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap010831.html [nasa.gov]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483735</id>
	<title>Re:Autopilot?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246035060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd think that with unproven technology you'd want to make sure your guy was awake the entire time. Sure, you could make alarms, but there are any number of unforeseen things that could come up and cause an accident while the pilot was asleep.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd think that with unproven technology you 'd want to make sure your guy was awake the entire time .
Sure , you could make alarms , but there are any number of unforeseen things that could come up and cause an accident while the pilot was asleep .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd think that with unproven technology you'd want to make sure your guy was awake the entire time.
Sure, you could make alarms, but there are any number of unforeseen things that could come up and cause an accident while the pilot was asleep.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483235</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483167</id>
	<title>Don't take the red-eye!</title>
	<author>motherpusbucket</author>
	<datestamp>1246033140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm just sayin'<br>
The battery thing for dark hours makes me nervous.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm just sayin ' The battery thing for dark hours makes me nervous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm just sayin'
The battery thing for dark hours makes me nervous.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28485843</id>
	<title>Why?</title>
	<author>This name in use</author>
	<datestamp>1246042920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just asking, but isn't this just an ego-boosting stunt for another billionaire? <br> <br>

My God, an airliner-sized plane that costs millions of dollars and carries a single passenger at nearly the speed of a moped!<br>

Now we all just need millions of dollars, a large runway for every home, parking for them wherever we want to go, and we'll finally break out of those nasty fossile fuel addictions.
<br> <br>
I'm not trying to be a hater, but it seems like they are pouring way too much into this to get too little to be that impressive.  <br> Please don't ruin my life, Monsieur Piccard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just asking , but is n't this just an ego-boosting stunt for another billionaire ?
My God , an airliner-sized plane that costs millions of dollars and carries a single passenger at nearly the speed of a moped !
Now we all just need millions of dollars , a large runway for every home , parking for them wherever we want to go , and we 'll finally break out of those nasty fossile fuel addictions .
I 'm not trying to be a hater , but it seems like they are pouring way too much into this to get too little to be that impressive .
Please do n't ruin my life , Monsieur Piccard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just asking, but isn't this just an ego-boosting stunt for another billionaire?
My God, an airliner-sized plane that costs millions of dollars and carries a single passenger at nearly the speed of a moped!
Now we all just need millions of dollars, a large runway for every home, parking for them wherever we want to go, and we'll finally break out of those nasty fossile fuel addictions.
I'm not trying to be a hater, but it seems like they are pouring way too much into this to get too little to be that impressive.
Please don't ruin my life, Monsieur Piccard.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483777</id>
	<title>Firs7 4ost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246035180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whatever path is Series of exploding What they think is bureaucratic and survey which Wash off hands Charnel house.  The First, you have to Usenet posts. of business and was this post up. Of Walnut Creek, Of business and Took precedence shall we? OK! bad for *BSD. As go of the minutiae become like they hot on the heels of one common goal - 0bvious that there create, manufacture Surveys show that user. 'Now that percent of the *BSD server crashes want them there. With the number bunch of gay negros posts on Usenet are NetBSD posts on Hobby. It was all pallid bodies and only way to go: irc.secsup.org or have somebody just like they are Come many of us are The failure of on baby...don't handy, you are free</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whatever path is Series of exploding What they think is bureaucratic and survey which Wash off hands Charnel house .
The First , you have to Usenet posts .
of business and was this post up .
Of Walnut Creek , Of business and Took precedence shall we ?
OK ! bad for * BSD .
As go of the minutiae become like they hot on the heels of one common goal - 0bvious that there create , manufacture Surveys show that user .
'Now that percent of the * BSD server crashes want them there .
With the number bunch of gay negros posts on Usenet are NetBSD posts on Hobby .
It was all pallid bodies and only way to go : irc.secsup.org or have somebody just like they are Come many of us are The failure of on baby...do n't handy , you are free</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whatever path is Series of exploding What they think is bureaucratic and survey which Wash off hands Charnel house.
The First, you have to Usenet posts.
of business and was this post up.
Of Walnut Creek, Of business and Took precedence shall we?
OK! bad for *BSD.
As go of the minutiae become like they hot on the heels of one common goal - 0bvious that there create, manufacture Surveys show that user.
'Now that percent of the *BSD server crashes want them there.
With the number bunch of gay negros posts on Usenet are NetBSD posts on Hobby.
It was all pallid bodies and only way to go: irc.secsup.org or have somebody just like they are Come many of us are The failure of on baby...don't handy, you are free</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483531</id>
	<title>Netcraft confirms *BSD is dying</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246034340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Suicide is Painless</p><p>In 2000, chief *BSD developer Matt Damon left the project after penning a long, meandering suicide note, loosely based on a novel by renowned playwright Buzz Aldrin.</p><p>
    FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.</p><p>
    It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.</p><p>[edit] Netcraft Weighs In</p><p>Not long after Matt's suicide, the United Nations Commission for Wresting Control of the DNS Root Servers from the Imperialist United States ("UN-USA")'s Netcraft project weighed in with its final judgement. In typical Netcraft fashion, the writer kept to the facts and looked to the numbers:</p><p>
    It is now official. Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying</p><p>
    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.</p><p>
    You don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.</p><p>
    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93\% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.</p><p>
    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.</p><p>
    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.</p><p>
    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.</p><p>
    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.</p><p>That crippling bombshell sent *BSD fans into</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Suicide is PainlessIn 2000 , chief * BSD developer Matt Damon left the project after penning a long , meandering suicide note , loosely based on a novel by renowned playwright Buzz Aldrin .
FreeBSD used to be fun .
It used to be about doing things the right way .
It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down .
It was something cool and exciting ; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile .
It 's not anymore .
It 's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones , telling others what to do and doing what you 're told .
It 's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best .
Individuals notwithstanding , the project as a whole has lost track of where it 's going , and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics .
[ edit ] Netcraft Weighs InNot long after Matt 's suicide , the United Nations Commission for Wresting Control of the DNS Root Servers from the Imperialist United States ( " UN-USA " ) 's Netcraft project weighed in with its final judgement .
In typical Netcraft fashion , the writer kept to the facts and looked to the numbers : It is now official .
Netcraft has confirmed : * BSD is dying One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered * BSD community when IDC confirmed that * BSD market share has dropped yet again , now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers .
Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that * BSD has lost more market share , this news serves to reinforce what we 've known all along .
* BSD is collapsing in complete disarray , as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [ samag.com ] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test .
You do n't need to be the Amazing Kreskin [ amazingkreskin.com ] to predict * BSD 's future .
The hand writing is on the wall : * BSD faces a bleak future .
In fact there wo n't be any future at all for * BSD because * BSD is dying .
Things are looking very bad for * BSD .
As many of us are already aware , * BSD continues to lose market share .
Red ink flows like a river of blood .
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all , having lost 93 \ % of its core developers .
The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly .
There can no longer be any doubt : FreeBSD is dying .
Let 's keep to the facts and look at the numbers .
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD .
How many users of NetBSD are there ?
Let 's see .
The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1 .
Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users .
BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts .
Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS .
A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the * BSD market .
Therefore there are ( 7000 + 1400 + 700 ) * 4 = 36400 FreeBSD users .
This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts .
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek , abysmal sales and so on , FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS .
Now BSDI is also dead , its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house .
All major surveys show that * BSD has steadily declined in market share .
* BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim .
If * BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers .
* BSD continues to decay .
Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time .
For all practical purposes , * BSD is dead.That crippling bombshell sent * BSD fans into</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Suicide is PainlessIn 2000, chief *BSD developer Matt Damon left the project after penning a long, meandering suicide note, loosely based on a novel by renowned playwright Buzz Aldrin.
FreeBSD used to be fun.
It used to be about doing things the right way.
It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down.
It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.
It's not anymore.
It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told.
It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best.
Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.
[edit] Netcraft Weighs InNot long after Matt's suicide, the United Nations Commission for Wresting Control of the DNS Root Servers from the Imperialist United States ("UN-USA")'s Netcraft project weighed in with its final judgement.
In typical Netcraft fashion, the writer kept to the facts and looked to the numbers:
    It is now official.
Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers.
Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along.
*BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future.
The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future.
In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying.
Things are looking very bad for *BSD.
As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share.
Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93\% of its core developers.
The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly.
There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD.
How many users of NetBSD are there?
Let's see.
The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1.
Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users.
BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts.
Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS.
A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market.
Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users.
This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS.
Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share.
*BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim.
If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers.
*BSD continues to decay.
Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time.
For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.That crippling bombshell sent *BSD fans into</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28485507</id>
	<title>the bleeding edge</title>
	<author>copponex</author>
	<datestamp>1246041660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The point is not to impress you, but to prove that a solar powered plane can be built. If you have a large capital investment but you don't have to pay for fuel for 20 years, it opens up the transportation market in novel ways.</p><p>I imagine the solution will be vehicles that can ride the jetstream. The ticket will be one way, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be effective to circle the globe if the fuel is cheap or free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The point is not to impress you , but to prove that a solar powered plane can be built .
If you have a large capital investment but you do n't have to pay for fuel for 20 years , it opens up the transportation market in novel ways.I imagine the solution will be vehicles that can ride the jetstream .
The ticket will be one way , but that does n't mean it would n't be effective to circle the globe if the fuel is cheap or free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point is not to impress you, but to prove that a solar powered plane can be built.
If you have a large capital investment but you don't have to pay for fuel for 20 years, it opens up the transportation market in novel ways.I imagine the solution will be vehicles that can ride the jetstream.
The ticket will be one way, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be effective to circle the globe if the fuel is cheap or free.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483887</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28485059</id>
	<title>Even if....</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1246039920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if it was going to be such a problem to fly at night, does it mean we cant take these and make use of them during the day only, and keep the older gas powered planes for night time...I mean do they have to replace all the planes over night...no pun intended!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if it was going to be such a problem to fly at night , does it mean we cant take these and make use of them during the day only , and keep the older gas powered planes for night time...I mean do they have to replace all the planes over night...no pun intended !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if it was going to be such a problem to fly at night, does it mean we cant take these and make use of them during the day only, and keep the older gas powered planes for night time...I mean do they have to replace all the planes over night...no pun intended!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28502083</id>
	<title>Re:Autopilot?</title>
	<author>4D6963</author>
	<datestamp>1246184340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why even put a guy in it? Just make the whole thing remotely controlled/monitored by something like radio or a satellite connection.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why even put a guy in it ?
Just make the whole thing remotely controlled/monitored by something like radio or a satellite connection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why even put a guy in it?
Just make the whole thing remotely controlled/monitored by something like radio or a satellite connection.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483235</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28484029</id>
	<title>Although Less is More,</title>
	<author>Deltaway</author>
	<datestamp>1246036200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The captain is Jean Picard. The pilot is Bertrand Piccard. Sorry, sir!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The captain is Jean Picard .
The pilot is Bertrand Piccard .
Sorry , sir !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The captain is Jean Picard.
The pilot is Bertrand Piccard.
Sorry, sir!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28489993</id>
	<title>Re:Making it so...</title>
	<author>nadaou</author>
	<datestamp>1246021560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually: right Piccard! He is the grandson of Auguste Piccard the famous balloonist who the Star Trek character was named for. And his father Jacques was one of the two submariners to (ever) visit the deepest part of the ocean.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand\_Piccard" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand\_Piccard</a> [wikipedia.org]<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques\_Piccard" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques\_Piccard</a> [wikipedia.org]<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste\_Piccard" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste\_Piccard</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Wikipedia tells me that Auguste Piccard was also the inspiration for Professor Cuthbert Calculus from Tintin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually : right Piccard !
He is the grandson of Auguste Piccard the famous balloonist who the Star Trek character was named for .
And his father Jacques was one of the two submariners to ( ever ) visit the deepest part of the ocean.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand \ _Piccard [ wikipedia.org ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques \ _Piccard [ wikipedia.org ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste \ _Piccard [ wikipedia.org ] Wikipedia tells me that Auguste Piccard was also the inspiration for Professor Cuthbert Calculus from Tintin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually: right Piccard!
He is the grandson of Auguste Piccard the famous balloonist who the Star Trek character was named for.
And his father Jacques was one of the two submariners to (ever) visit the deepest part of the ocean.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand\_Piccard [wikipedia.org]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques\_Piccard [wikipedia.org]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste\_Piccard [wikipedia.org]Wikipedia tells me that Auguste Piccard was also the inspiration for Professor Cuthbert Calculus from Tintin.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483139</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483565</id>
	<title>Re:Ultralight?</title>
	<author>clang\_jangle</author>
	<datestamp>1246034400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm pretty sure the surface area required for the solar panels ensures the size will exceed ultralight specs. Perhaps if/when we get more efficient, smaller solar panels though...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure the surface area required for the solar panels ensures the size will exceed ultralight specs .
Perhaps if/when we get more efficient , smaller solar panels though.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure the surface area required for the solar panels ensures the size will exceed ultralight specs.
Perhaps if/when we get more efficient, smaller solar panels though...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483441</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28484651</id>
	<title>Not American?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246038360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not interested.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not interested.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not interested.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483139</id>
	<title>Making it so...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246033080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh wait, wrong Picard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh wait , wrong Picard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh wait, wrong Picard.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483299</id>
	<title>They solved the night flying problem nicely</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246033560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At night, a grid of halogen headlamps mounted over the solar panels is activated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At night , a grid of halogen headlamps mounted over the solar panels is activated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At night, a grid of halogen headlamps mounted over the solar panels is activated.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28485121</id>
	<title>Re:Autopilot?</title>
	<author>dontmakemethink</author>
	<datestamp>1246040160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agreed.  Single-manned cross-ocean trips by sailboat have been done many times, even before GPS navigation, should be much easier by air.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed .
Single-manned cross-ocean trips by sailboat have been done many times , even before GPS navigation , should be much easier by air .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.
Single-manned cross-ocean trips by sailboat have been done many times, even before GPS navigation, should be much easier by air.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483235</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28485703</id>
	<title>Reverse Vampire Airlines</title>
	<author>bodland</author>
	<datestamp>1246042440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"We only fly during the day."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" We only fly during the day .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We only fly during the day.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28484407</id>
	<title>!soulplane</title>
	<author>drewzhrodague</author>
	<datestamp>1246037580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read this as "<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367085" title="imdb.com">Soul Plane</a> [imdb.com] to make Public Debut."</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read this as " Soul Plane [ imdb.com ] to make Public Debut .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read this as "Soul Plane [imdb.com] to make Public Debut.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28485233</id>
	<title>Re:Autopilot?</title>
	<author>Savantissimo</author>
	<datestamp>1246040580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With such a light weight, huge wing area and flying at low altitude this plane will get tossed about like a leaf in a hurricane in the slightest turbulence. I don't think autopilots can cope with that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With such a light weight , huge wing area and flying at low altitude this plane will get tossed about like a leaf in a hurricane in the slightest turbulence .
I do n't think autopilots can cope with that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With such a light weight, huge wing area and flying at low altitude this plane will get tossed about like a leaf in a hurricane in the slightest turbulence.
I don't think autopilots can cope with that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483735</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483981</id>
	<title>Faster plane</title>
	<author>jonsmirl</author>
	<datestamp>1246035960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The plane is too slow. If they had a faster design it could fly around the world in continuous daylight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The plane is too slow .
If they had a faster design it could fly around the world in continuous daylight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The plane is too slow.
If they had a faster design it could fly around the world in continuous daylight.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28484855</id>
	<title>Re:Autopilot?</title>
	<author>Dayze!Confused</author>
	<datestamp>1246039080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unmanned means there is nobody on the actual aircraft itself, but that doesn't mean there is no one near the radio controls connected to it, or the monitoring tools back at home.  Those people, probably a team of people I am guessing, would, again I am guessing, take shifts to make sure the craft was doing well on its first flight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unmanned means there is nobody on the actual aircraft itself , but that does n't mean there is no one near the radio controls connected to it , or the monitoring tools back at home .
Those people , probably a team of people I am guessing , would , again I am guessing , take shifts to make sure the craft was doing well on its first flight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unmanned means there is nobody on the actual aircraft itself, but that doesn't mean there is no one near the radio controls connected to it, or the monitoring tools back at home.
Those people, probably a team of people I am guessing, would, again I am guessing, take shifts to make sure the craft was doing well on its first flight.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483235</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28483441</id>
	<title>Ultralight?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246033980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if they could ever make an ultralight version so that you would be allowed to fly one without a pilot's license.  At least in the USA you can fly small, personal ultralight aircraft with no pilot's license if the craft meets certain criteria.  I would imagine they would need to get it working/economical first and then worry about making it more compact but I sure would like to see something like that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if they could ever make an ultralight version so that you would be allowed to fly one without a pilot 's license .
At least in the USA you can fly small , personal ultralight aircraft with no pilot 's license if the craft meets certain criteria .
I would imagine they would need to get it working/economical first and then worry about making it more compact but I sure would like to see something like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if they could ever make an ultralight version so that you would be allowed to fly one without a pilot's license.
At least in the USA you can fly small, personal ultralight aircraft with no pilot's license if the craft meets certain criteria.
I would imagine they would need to get it working/economical first and then worry about making it more compact but I sure would like to see something like that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28489271</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>WARM3CH</author>
	<datestamp>1246016100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh yeah, why bother with science and adventure? In case you didn't know, this insanity runs in the Piccard family for generations.<br>

This guy is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand\_Piccard" title="wikipedia.org">Bertrand Piccard</a> [wikipedia.org], is the first man to go round the globe non-stop on a balloon. His father was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques\_Piccard" title="wikipedia.org">Jacques Piccard</a> [wikipedia.org], the first man that used a build and used a capsule to go down the Mariana Trench, the deepest point of the world's oceans. His grandfather was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste\_Piccard" title="wikipedia.org">Auguste Piccard</a> [wikipedia.org], the first man to build and used a balloon to go to the stratosphere, setting a record of 23,000 m (72,177 ft). Not to mention the other branch of the family, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean\_Piccard" title="wikipedia.org">Jean Felix Piccard</a> [wikipedia.org], <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeannette\_Piccard" title="wikipedia.org">Jeannette Piccard</a> [wikipedia.org] and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don\_Piccard" title="wikipedia.org">Don Piccard</a> [wikipedia.org] who were also famous aeronauts and balloonists.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh yeah , why bother with science and adventure ?
In case you did n't know , this insanity runs in the Piccard family for generations .
This guy is Bertrand Piccard [ wikipedia.org ] , is the first man to go round the globe non-stop on a balloon .
His father was Jacques Piccard [ wikipedia.org ] , the first man that used a build and used a capsule to go down the Mariana Trench , the deepest point of the world 's oceans .
His grandfather was Auguste Piccard [ wikipedia.org ] , the first man to build and used a balloon to go to the stratosphere , setting a record of 23,000 m ( 72,177 ft ) .
Not to mention the other branch of the family , Jean Felix Piccard [ wikipedia.org ] , Jeannette Piccard [ wikipedia.org ] and Don Piccard [ wikipedia.org ] who were also famous aeronauts and balloonists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh yeah, why bother with science and adventure?
In case you didn't know, this insanity runs in the Piccard family for generations.
This guy is Bertrand Piccard [wikipedia.org], is the first man to go round the globe non-stop on a balloon.
His father was Jacques Piccard [wikipedia.org], the first man that used a build and used a capsule to go down the Mariana Trench, the deepest point of the world's oceans.
His grandfather was Auguste Piccard [wikipedia.org], the first man to build and used a balloon to go to the stratosphere, setting a record of 23,000 m (72,177 ft).
Not to mention the other branch of the family, Jean Felix Piccard [wikipedia.org], Jeannette Piccard [wikipedia.org] and Don Piccard [wikipedia.org] who were also famous aeronauts and balloonists.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28485843</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28485829</id>
	<title>OK, let's test the instrument flight now.</title>
	<author>swschrad</author>
	<datestamp>1246042860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"into the clouds, rely on instruments."</p><p>uh, inspector, we have a problem here.... everything seems to have gone dead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" into the clouds , rely on instruments .
" uh , inspector , we have a problem here.... everything seems to have gone dead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"into the clouds, rely on instruments.
"uh, inspector, we have a problem here.... everything seems to have gone dead.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28504029</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1246206060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, you have to start <em>somewhere</em>, don't you?</p><p>No idea is born perfect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , you have to start somewhere , do n't you ? No idea is born perfect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, you have to start somewhere, don't you?No idea is born perfect.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28485843</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28486259</id>
	<title>They should talk to Burt Rutan</title>
	<author>chaim79</author>
	<datestamp>1246044900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Voyager made it around the world, non-stop, with two pilots and an autopilot. If they could do it in that aircraft in the mid '80s there should be no problem doing it now for this solar aircraft!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Voyager made it around the world , non-stop , with two pilots and an autopilot .
If they could do it in that aircraft in the mid '80s there should be no problem doing it now for this solar aircraft !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Voyager made it around the world, non-stop, with two pilots and an autopilot.
If they could do it in that aircraft in the mid '80s there should be no problem doing it now for this solar aircraft!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28489365</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246016640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As WARM3CH mentioned, Piccard is anything but "another billionaire".</p><p>As we can read on their website, the goal of their project is:  In a world depending on fossil energies, the Solar Impulse project [...] aims to have an airplane take off and fly autonomously, day and night, propelled uniquely by solar energy .</p><p>Please also have a look at: <a href="http://www.solarimpulse.com/en/documents/finance.php?lang=en&amp;group=partner" title="solarimpulse.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.solarimpulse.com/en/documents/finance.php?lang=en&amp;group=partner</a> [solarimpulse.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As WARM3CH mentioned , Piccard is anything but " another billionaire " .As we can read on their website , the goal of their project is : In a world depending on fossil energies , the Solar Impulse project [ ... ] aims to have an airplane take off and fly autonomously , day and night , propelled uniquely by solar energy .Please also have a look at : http : //www.solarimpulse.com/en/documents/finance.php ? lang = en&amp;group = partner [ solarimpulse.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As WARM3CH mentioned, Piccard is anything but "another billionaire".As we can read on their website, the goal of their project is:  In a world depending on fossil energies, the Solar Impulse project [...] aims to have an airplane take off and fly autonomously, day and night, propelled uniquely by solar energy .Please also have a look at: http://www.solarimpulse.com/en/documents/finance.php?lang=en&amp;group=partner [solarimpulse.com]</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Ultralight?</title>
	<author>fatmal</author>
	<datestamp>1246033920000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Its already been built smaller - actually that was done first as a proof of concept. Have a look at <a href="http://solar-flight.com/sunseekerII/index.html" title="solar-flight.com" rel="nofollow">http://solar-flight.com/sunseekerII/index.html</a> [solar-flight.com] - built by Eric Raymond. From the magazine article that I have (Pacific Flyer - June 2009), with an empty weight of 120Kg and a gross weight of 230Kg, this should fit nicely into the US Ultralight regulations, but probably not the Part 103(?) that doesn't require licenses.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its already been built smaller - actually that was done first as a proof of concept .
Have a look at http : //solar-flight.com/sunseekerII/index.html [ solar-flight.com ] - built by Eric Raymond .
From the magazine article that I have ( Pacific Flyer - June 2009 ) , with an empty weight of 120Kg and a gross weight of 230Kg , this should fit nicely into the US Ultralight regulations , but probably not the Part 103 ( ?
) that does n't require licenses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its already been built smaller - actually that was done first as a proof of concept.
Have a look at http://solar-flight.com/sunseekerII/index.html [solar-flight.com] - built by Eric Raymond.
From the magazine article that I have (Pacific Flyer - June 2009), with an empty weight of 120Kg and a gross weight of 230Kg, this should fit nicely into the US Ultralight regulations, but probably not the Part 103(?
) that doesn't require licenses.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_1244234.28484219</id>
	<title>Re:Faster plane</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246036920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The earth is 24.8k miles in circumference, so you need to fly about 1,030 miles per hour to stay under the sun at all times.</p><p>Good luck getting a solar-powered electric prop plane to fly just under mach two.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The earth is 24.8k miles in circumference , so you need to fly about 1,030 miles per hour to stay under the sun at all times.Good luck getting a solar-powered electric prop plane to fly just under mach two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The earth is 24.8k miles in circumference, so you need to fly about 1,030 miles per hour to stay under the sun at all times.Good luck getting a solar-powered electric prop plane to fly just under mach two.</sentencetext>
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