<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_25_1757249</id>
	<title>Lenovo Software Update Stealthily Installs Adware</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1245954840000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"A recent Lenovo automatic software update has the great feature of displaying <a href="http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x57/UrsusMorologus/lenovo-desktop-spam.jpg">annoying pop-up ads</a> for Lenovo products. What's worse, it <a href="http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=Special\_Interest\_General&amp;thread.id=4886&amp;view=by\_date\_ascending&amp;page=1">appears that many users are unable to turn the advertisement 'feature' off</a>, subjecting them to pop-ups every couple of hours. Gee guys, a note about your 20\% off sale in my e-mail wouldn't have bothered me that much, but you really had to pop up over top of my PowerPoint slides? I'm sure that all of my office colleagues will be running to order ThinkPads ..."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " A recent Lenovo automatic software update has the great feature of displaying annoying pop-up ads for Lenovo products .
What 's worse , it appears that many users are unable to turn the advertisement 'feature ' off , subjecting them to pop-ups every couple of hours .
Gee guys , a note about your 20 \ % off sale in my e-mail would n't have bothered me that much , but you really had to pop up over top of my PowerPoint slides ?
I 'm sure that all of my office colleagues will be running to order ThinkPads ... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "A recent Lenovo automatic software update has the great feature of displaying annoying pop-up ads for Lenovo products.
What's worse, it appears that many users are unable to turn the advertisement 'feature' off, subjecting them to pop-ups every couple of hours.
Gee guys, a note about your 20\% off sale in my e-mail wouldn't have bothered me that much, but you really had to pop up over top of my PowerPoint slides?
I'm sure that all of my office colleagues will be running to order ThinkPads ..."</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469803</id>
	<title>How is adware formed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245958620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How Lenovo get repugnent?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How Lenovo get repugnent ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How Lenovo get repugnent?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470299</id>
	<title>Re:this is dumb</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1245960420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, I'm wondering - when this computer breaks (and it will - multiply chance of failure by the number of machines built), who's supporting it?  You?  I'm not sure I want to depend on some guy who may or may not have the time (sorry busy this week, wife just had a death in the family, sorry my kid is sick, my car broke so can't visit your office til next week, I got hit by a car yesterday and can't help you, or any of a thousand other [legitimate] excuses.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , I 'm wondering - when this computer breaks ( and it will - multiply chance of failure by the number of machines built ) , who 's supporting it ?
You ? I 'm not sure I want to depend on some guy who may or may not have the time ( sorry busy this week , wife just had a death in the family , sorry my kid is sick , my car broke so ca n't visit your office til next week , I got hit by a car yesterday and ca n't help you , or any of a thousand other [ legitimate ] excuses .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, I'm wondering - when this computer breaks (and it will - multiply chance of failure by the number of machines built), who's supporting it?
You?  I'm not sure I want to depend on some guy who may or may not have the time (sorry busy this week, wife just had a death in the family, sorry my kid is sick, my car broke so can't visit your office til next week, I got hit by a car yesterday and can't help you, or any of a thousand other [legitimate] excuses.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471719</id>
	<title>Personally Deploying Lenovo Hardware</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245922440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I personally deploy Lenovo hardware for clients and I do so from a custom made Windows image that I created by first formatting a computer and installing Windows from scratch, then adding necessary drivers. There is NO NEED for any of the Lenovo software.</p><p>The Lenovo brand hardware is actually pretty nice. We roll out T400 ThinkPad systems and so far they seem to be very rugged and perform quite well. You just have to get the Think(disad)Vantage shit off the system first.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I personally deploy Lenovo hardware for clients and I do so from a custom made Windows image that I created by first formatting a computer and installing Windows from scratch , then adding necessary drivers .
There is NO NEED for any of the Lenovo software.The Lenovo brand hardware is actually pretty nice .
We roll out T400 ThinkPad systems and so far they seem to be very rugged and perform quite well .
You just have to get the Think ( disad ) Vantage shit off the system first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I personally deploy Lenovo hardware for clients and I do so from a custom made Windows image that I created by first formatting a computer and installing Windows from scratch, then adding necessary drivers.
There is NO NEED for any of the Lenovo software.The Lenovo brand hardware is actually pretty nice.
We roll out T400 ThinkPad systems and so far they seem to be very rugged and perform quite well.
You just have to get the Think(disad)Vantage shit off the system first.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28472377</id>
	<title>Re:Lenovo has officially jumped the shark</title>
	<author>InsertCleverUsername</author>
	<datestamp>1245924420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got a Thinkpad last Summer and I've been really happy with it.  However, it was a rough start --had to remove crapware that crashed Vista frequently.  But Lenovo made it easy enough to get a fresh install with no extras.  (see this comment: <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1282033&amp;cid=28470885" title="slashdot.org">http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1282033&amp;cid=28470885</a> [slashdot.org] )  Since that re-install it's worked flawlessly.  Customer service seemed good too.  I thought I had a bad DVD burner and they happily sent a replacement (in retrospect I think it was just some bad disks, not the drive).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got a Thinkpad last Summer and I 've been really happy with it .
However , it was a rough start --had to remove crapware that crashed Vista frequently .
But Lenovo made it easy enough to get a fresh install with no extras .
( see this comment : http : //yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1282033&amp;cid = 28470885 [ slashdot.org ] ) Since that re-install it 's worked flawlessly .
Customer service seemed good too .
I thought I had a bad DVD burner and they happily sent a replacement ( in retrospect I think it was just some bad disks , not the drive ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got a Thinkpad last Summer and I've been really happy with it.
However, it was a rough start --had to remove crapware that crashed Vista frequently.
But Lenovo made it easy enough to get a fresh install with no extras.
(see this comment: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1282033&amp;cid=28470885 [slashdot.org] )  Since that re-install it's worked flawlessly.
Customer service seemed good too.
I thought I had a bad DVD burner and they happily sent a replacement (in retrospect I think it was just some bad disks, not the drive).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470475</id>
	<title>LENOVO!!</title>
	<author>Icegryphon</author>
	<datestamp>1245961200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>What are you doing?! You are ruining BigBlue's legacy.<br>
You should be the best of the best for business.<br>
Stop adding all this extra Adware, crap software on new systems<br>
I am ashamed to be a IBM fan right now.. Ashamed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you doing ? !
You are ruining BigBlue 's legacy .
You should be the best of the best for business .
Stop adding all this extra Adware , crap software on new systems I am ashamed to be a IBM fan right now.. Ashamed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you doing?!
You are ruining BigBlue's legacy.
You should be the best of the best for business.
Stop adding all this extra Adware, crap software on new systems
I am ashamed to be a IBM fan right now.. Ashamed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470275</id>
	<title>Re:No kidding!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245960360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you uninstall "message center plus" it fixes it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you uninstall " message center plus " it fixes it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you uninstall "message center plus" it fixes it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469831</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469901</id>
	<title>Two problems, hard to say which more serious</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245958980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From reading the discussion forums, there are two problems:</p><p>1) System is not obeying checkbox to not show specific message again.</p><p>2) System is presenting ads through software installed by the vendor, not by email or browser.</p><p>At first #1 seems to be the bigger problem, as if you could check a box not to see the message again you'll only be bothered once... until you read the bit about "specific" again.  Checking that box by design is supposed to only block that EXACT ad, not others that may come later...</p><p>That was indeed an insane choice to include by a vendor.  As noted, these could pop up at the most inconvenient time.  Even if you dismiss one and it worked, you never know when you may get another.</p><p>I'm sure they'll get rid of this soon, but it has to go down in history as one of the bigger WTF moments in vendor specific software installs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From reading the discussion forums , there are two problems : 1 ) System is not obeying checkbox to not show specific message again.2 ) System is presenting ads through software installed by the vendor , not by email or browser.At first # 1 seems to be the bigger problem , as if you could check a box not to see the message again you 'll only be bothered once... until you read the bit about " specific " again .
Checking that box by design is supposed to only block that EXACT ad , not others that may come later...That was indeed an insane choice to include by a vendor .
As noted , these could pop up at the most inconvenient time .
Even if you dismiss one and it worked , you never know when you may get another.I 'm sure they 'll get rid of this soon , but it has to go down in history as one of the bigger WTF moments in vendor specific software installs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From reading the discussion forums, there are two problems:1) System is not obeying checkbox to not show specific message again.2) System is presenting ads through software installed by the vendor, not by email or browser.At first #1 seems to be the bigger problem, as if you could check a box not to see the message again you'll only be bothered once... until you read the bit about "specific" again.
Checking that box by design is supposed to only block that EXACT ad, not others that may come later...That was indeed an insane choice to include by a vendor.
As noted, these could pop up at the most inconvenient time.
Even if you dismiss one and it worked, you never know when you may get another.I'm sure they'll get rid of this soon, but it has to go down in history as one of the bigger WTF moments in vendor specific software installs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469849</id>
	<title>Lenovo has officially jumped the shark</title>
	<author>religious freak</author>
	<datestamp>1245958740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The last thing Lenovo wanted to happen is to dilute the Thinkpad brand and screw up a good thing, when they purchased thinkpad from IBM.  Knowing this, I bought a Thinkpad, and the thing totally blows, their customer service is bad and they install way too much crapware on the PC by default (even more than the average manufacturer).  Way to go guys...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The last thing Lenovo wanted to happen is to dilute the Thinkpad brand and screw up a good thing , when they purchased thinkpad from IBM .
Knowing this , I bought a Thinkpad , and the thing totally blows , their customer service is bad and they install way too much crapware on the PC by default ( even more than the average manufacturer ) .
Way to go guys.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The last thing Lenovo wanted to happen is to dilute the Thinkpad brand and screw up a good thing, when they purchased thinkpad from IBM.
Knowing this, I bought a Thinkpad, and the thing totally blows, their customer service is bad and they install way too much crapware on the PC by default (even more than the average manufacturer).
Way to go guys...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470941</id>
	<title>Why not spyware</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245963180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would not be surprised if they install spyware that way given the Chinese love for breaking into foreign networks</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would not be surprised if they install spyware that way given the Chinese love for breaking into foreign networks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would not be surprised if they install spyware that way given the Chinese love for breaking into foreign networks</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469985</id>
	<title>Re:this is dumb</title>
	<author>FrostDust</author>
	<datestamp>1245959280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wonder what it would cost to build computers without the annoying shit installed.</p></div><p>Apparently, <a href="http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2008/08/pay\_30\_and\_best\_buy\_will\_remove\_your\_new\_pcs.html" title="chron.com">thirty bucks</a> [chron.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what it would cost to build computers without the annoying shit installed.Apparently , thirty bucks [ chron.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what it would cost to build computers without the annoying shit installed.Apparently, thirty bucks [chron.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469833</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471417</id>
	<title>It's The Timing...Stupid!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245921480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not just that the ads pop up every 2 hours, but when they pop up in the middle of an important presentation to your most critical customers that this really bites.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not just that the ads pop up every 2 hours , but when they pop up in the middle of an important presentation to your most critical customers that this really bites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not just that the ads pop up every 2 hours, but when they pop up in the middle of an important presentation to your most critical customers that this really bites.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470863</id>
	<title>I have a great idea</title>
	<author>Akita24</author>
	<datestamp>1245962940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about all you HARDWARE manufacturers sell me HARDWARE and stay the fuck out of the SOFTWARE business. Unlike Windows which I've only "rented" from Microsoft, I BOUGHT your damned hardware. It's now MINE. When I update a BIOS or install a driver, what I want is a BIOS or a driver, not you shill for some lame-assed POS software. Fuck off already. Assholes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about all you HARDWARE manufacturers sell me HARDWARE and stay the fuck out of the SOFTWARE business .
Unlike Windows which I 've only " rented " from Microsoft , I BOUGHT your damned hardware .
It 's now MINE .
When I update a BIOS or install a driver , what I want is a BIOS or a driver , not you shill for some lame-assed POS software .
Fuck off already .
Assholes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about all you HARDWARE manufacturers sell me HARDWARE and stay the fuck out of the SOFTWARE business.
Unlike Windows which I've only "rented" from Microsoft, I BOUGHT your damned hardware.
It's now MINE.
When I update a BIOS or install a driver, what I want is a BIOS or a driver, not you shill for some lame-assed POS software.
Fuck off already.
Assholes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470191</id>
	<title>I was considering buying a ThinkPad...</title>
	<author>XnavxeMiyyep</author>
	<datestamp>1245960000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was considering buying a ThinkPad for my next laptop purchase. Not that I was going to keep Windows on it anyway, but I won't buy one on principle now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was considering buying a ThinkPad for my next laptop purchase .
Not that I was going to keep Windows on it anyway , but I wo n't buy one on principle now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was considering buying a ThinkPad for my next laptop purchase.
Not that I was going to keep Windows on it anyway, but I won't buy one on principle now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470383</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory Snark</title>
	<author>spun</author>
	<datestamp>1245960780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Totally off topic, but were you on Spinnwebe back in the DFC days? Good times, good times...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Totally off topic , but were you on Spinnwebe back in the DFC days ?
Good times , good times.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Totally off topic, but were you on Spinnwebe back in the DFC days?
Good times, good times...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469907</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28481967</id>
	<title>Re:Its over</title>
	<author>quantumphaze</author>
	<datestamp>1246029780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is very annoying. On my SL500 it actually pays attention to the volume control, except for when it suspends. The PCSpkr is put through the output jack if it's used and if you are unfortunate to have your headphones in at the time, you will bleed from your ears.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is very annoying .
On my SL500 it actually pays attention to the volume control , except for when it suspends .
The PCSpkr is put through the output jack if it 's used and if you are unfortunate to have your headphones in at the time , you will bleed from your ears .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is very annoying.
On my SL500 it actually pays attention to the volume control, except for when it suspends.
The PCSpkr is put through the output jack if it's used and if you are unfortunate to have your headphones in at the time, you will bleed from your ears.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471957</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471207</id>
	<title>Re:Lenovo has officially jumped the shark</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1245920820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, i too remember when having a thinkpad was a status symbol due to their quality. now its a stigma " look at the loser "</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , i too remember when having a thinkpad was a status symbol due to their quality .
now its a stigma " look at the loser "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, i too remember when having a thinkpad was a status symbol due to their quality.
now its a stigma " look at the loser "</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469849</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471379</id>
	<title>Man...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245921360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I thought it was bad when Sun started bundling default checked Yahoo toolbar with Java.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I thought it was bad when Sun started bundling default checked Yahoo toolbar with Java .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I thought it was bad when Sun started bundling default checked Yahoo toolbar with Java.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28473113</id>
	<title>Doesn't affect my T61</title>
	<author>slinches</author>
	<datestamp>1245927180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I purchased a T61 and haven't had any issues with Lenovo installed malware. Of course, I did order it with SLED10 pre-installed.  Unfortunately that option is no longer available.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I purchased a T61 and have n't had any issues with Lenovo installed malware .
Of course , I did order it with SLED10 pre-installed .
Unfortunately that option is no longer available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I purchased a T61 and haven't had any issues with Lenovo installed malware.
Of course, I did order it with SLED10 pre-installed.
Unfortunately that option is no longer available.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28484431</id>
	<title>Re:Lenovo has officially jumped the shark</title>
	<author>jp10558</author>
	<datestamp>1246037700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suppose it depends as I've only purchased T series Thinkpads and dealt with that tech support, but how does the support suck? It's probably one of the best support experiances I've ever had from a large company, and I deal with them several times a year what with ~40 laptops used by very careless users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose it depends as I 've only purchased T series Thinkpads and dealt with that tech support , but how does the support suck ?
It 's probably one of the best support experiances I 've ever had from a large company , and I deal with them several times a year what with ~ 40 laptops used by very careless users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose it depends as I've only purchased T series Thinkpads and dealt with that tech support, but how does the support suck?
It's probably one of the best support experiances I've ever had from a large company, and I deal with them several times a year what with ~40 laptops used by very careless users.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28472437</id>
	<title>Re:Change of Plans</title>
	<author>Seraphim\_72</author>
	<datestamp>1245924600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why would you leave the native stuff there in a corp environment? The first thing we do to any machine is blow out anything on the hard drive and install our own image.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would you leave the native stuff there in a corp environment ?
The first thing we do to any machine is blow out anything on the hard drive and install our own image .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would you leave the native stuff there in a corp environment?
The first thing we do to any machine is blow out anything on the hard drive and install our own image.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470319</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470963</id>
	<title>Re:How is adware formed?</title>
	<author>karnal</author>
	<datestamp>1245963240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>google how is babby formed; there's a flash that's hilarious.  But the real thing is 3 links down in the yahoo answers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>google how is babby formed ; there 's a flash that 's hilarious .
But the real thing is 3 links down in the yahoo answers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>google how is babby formed; there's a flash that's hilarious.
But the real thing is 3 links down in the yahoo answers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470523</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470165</id>
	<title>Chinese Economic Warfare</title>
	<author>shankarunni</author>
	<datestamp>1245959880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You do realize that this is just another salvo in the Chinese effort to cripple American business productivity and efficiency, don't you? What little there is left of it, that is?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do realize that this is just another salvo in the Chinese effort to cripple American business productivity and efficiency , do n't you ?
What little there is left of it , that is ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do realize that this is just another salvo in the Chinese effort to cripple American business productivity and efficiency, don't you?
What little there is left of it, that is?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28477773</id>
	<title>Iness</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245954180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://bodiflex.zbord.ru/index.php</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //bodiflex.zbord.ru/index.php</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://bodiflex.zbord.ru/index.php</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470105</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory Snark</title>
	<author>fandingo</author>
	<datestamp>1245959700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember installing something that was supposed to stop crap like this. Oh yeah, it was Ubuntu... Never had any problems, although the cable tech was horrified.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember installing something that was supposed to stop crap like this .
Oh yeah , it was Ubuntu... Never had any problems , although the cable tech was horrified .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember installing something that was supposed to stop crap like this.
Oh yeah, it was Ubuntu... Never had any problems, although the cable tech was horrified.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469907</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28473803</id>
	<title>Re:Just wait, it'll get even better</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245930360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just because they're out to get you doesn't mean your not paranoid. We've found some engineered anomolies in core hardware with custom silicon. I can't say much more then that, but if you're betting your nation on it, don't trust chinese silicon. Yes, we trust German fabs besides our own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just because they 're out to get you does n't mean your not paranoid .
We 've found some engineered anomolies in core hardware with custom silicon .
I ca n't say much more then that , but if you 're betting your nation on it , do n't trust chinese silicon .
Yes , we trust German fabs besides our own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just because they're out to get you doesn't mean your not paranoid.
We've found some engineered anomolies in core hardware with custom silicon.
I can't say much more then that, but if you're betting your nation on it, don't trust chinese silicon.
Yes, we trust German fabs besides our own.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470007</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469983</id>
	<title>i bet i can uninstall it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245959280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>with a Slackware Linux CD or DVD</htmltext>
<tokenext>with a Slackware Linux CD or DVD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with a Slackware Linux CD or DVD</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469837</id>
	<title>I've run into this on my S10</title>
	<author>Skuld-Chan</author>
	<datestamp>1245958740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an S10 ideapad - and yeah the "don't show this ad again" checkbox doesn't work. Whats worse is this app has never actually worked for the S10.</p><p>Probably last Lenovo laptop I buy (and I've had several all the way back when they were badged IBM machines).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an S10 ideapad - and yeah the " do n't show this ad again " checkbox does n't work .
Whats worse is this app has never actually worked for the S10.Probably last Lenovo laptop I buy ( and I 've had several all the way back when they were badged IBM machines ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an S10 ideapad - and yeah the "don't show this ad again" checkbox doesn't work.
Whats worse is this app has never actually worked for the S10.Probably last Lenovo laptop I buy (and I've had several all the way back when they were badged IBM machines).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470245</id>
	<title>Re:this is dumb</title>
	<author>Anonymous Showered</author>
	<datestamp>1245960180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I did with my Dell 700m back in the day was buy it, unwrap it, boot it up and format with a XP Home OEM disc I downloaded off the web. I just used the same license key and didn't experience any WGA notification issues. I then downloaded the drivers for the graphic, chipset, etc. and had a fresh new installation without the bloat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I did with my Dell 700m back in the day was buy it , unwrap it , boot it up and format with a XP Home OEM disc I downloaded off the web .
I just used the same license key and did n't experience any WGA notification issues .
I then downloaded the drivers for the graphic , chipset , etc .
and had a fresh new installation without the bloat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I did with my Dell 700m back in the day was buy it, unwrap it, boot it up and format with a XP Home OEM disc I downloaded off the web.
I just used the same license key and didn't experience any WGA notification issues.
I then downloaded the drivers for the graphic, chipset, etc.
and had a fresh new installation without the bloat.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469833</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470459</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory Snark</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245961080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which means it affects all users with paying jobs...</p><p>So you guys living in your parents' basement are safe...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which means it affects all users with paying jobs...So you guys living in your parents ' basement are safe.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which means it affects all users with paying jobs...So you guys living in your parents' basement are safe...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469907</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470259</id>
	<title>Re:Lenovo has officially jumped the shark</title>
	<author>nolife</author>
	<datestamp>1245960300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We use a standard image on our Lenovo laptops so we don't see this problem.  I have a few Lenovos at my desk for testing but the first thing I do is uninstall all of the Lenovo specific software with a few exception.  The Lenovo XP load on my last T61 had 89 processes running at idle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We use a standard image on our Lenovo laptops so we do n't see this problem .
I have a few Lenovos at my desk for testing but the first thing I do is uninstall all of the Lenovo specific software with a few exception .
The Lenovo XP load on my last T61 had 89 processes running at idle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We use a standard image on our Lenovo laptops so we don't see this problem.
I have a few Lenovos at my desk for testing but the first thing I do is uninstall all of the Lenovo specific software with a few exception.
The Lenovo XP load on my last T61 had 89 processes running at idle.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469849</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469813</id>
	<title>Stealthilly  install your willy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245958620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Imagine your willy being smacked until it bleeds.</p><p>J.delanoy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine your willy being smacked until it bleeds.J.delanoy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine your willy being smacked until it bleeds.J.delanoy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28472759</id>
	<title>Finally!   It's the year of Linux on the desktop!</title>
	<author>mellon</author>
	<datestamp>1245925860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe we should print up some bumper stickers that say "Don't blame me - I run Linux!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe we should print up some bumper stickers that say " Do n't blame me - I run Linux !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe we should print up some bumper stickers that say "Don't blame me - I run Linux!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28472031</id>
	<title>Re:No kidding!</title>
	<author>murphyd311</author>
	<datestamp>1245923340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, it's called message center plus.  It's an extremely easy uninstall, however they mask it as an 'update' when it is really just adware.  Bad move on Lenovo's part. <br>
And my entire (large) company uses Thinkpads, I bet the helpdesk is going nuts today.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it 's called message center plus .
It 's an extremely easy uninstall , however they mask it as an 'update ' when it is really just adware .
Bad move on Lenovo 's part .
And my entire ( large ) company uses Thinkpads , I bet the helpdesk is going nuts today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it's called message center plus.
It's an extremely easy uninstall, however they mask it as an 'update' when it is really just adware.
Bad move on Lenovo's part.
And my entire (large) company uses Thinkpads, I bet the helpdesk is going nuts today.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469831</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471915</id>
	<title>Re:Lenovo has officially jumped the shark</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They already started diluting their brand. SL series? please. W is totally useless.</p><p>And frankly, my R61 looks like it is going to be my last lenovo machine.</p><p>I'll deal with dell or a cheaper hp breaking on me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They already started diluting their brand .
SL series ?
please. W is totally useless.And frankly , my R61 looks like it is going to be my last lenovo machine.I 'll deal with dell or a cheaper hp breaking on me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They already started diluting their brand.
SL series?
please. W is totally useless.And frankly, my R61 looks like it is going to be my last lenovo machine.I'll deal with dell or a cheaper hp breaking on me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469849</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470225</id>
	<title>Re:How is adware formed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245960120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They need to do way instain adware&gt; <br>
who annoy thier user. becuse these user cant fright back?
<br> <br>
it was on slasdot this mroing a user in ofice who had kill her three popups. they are taking the laptop back to the shop too get repalcement my pary are with the colleges who didnt see the persentration; i am truley sorry for your lots.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They need to do way instain adware &gt; who annoy thier user .
becuse these user cant fright back ?
it was on slasdot this mroing a user in ofice who had kill her three popups .
they are taking the laptop back to the shop too get repalcement my pary are with the colleges who didnt see the persentration ; i am truley sorry for your lots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They need to do way instain adware&gt; 
who annoy thier user.
becuse these user cant fright back?
it was on slasdot this mroing a user in ofice who had kill her three popups.
they are taking the laptop back to the shop too get repalcement my pary are with the colleges who didnt see the persentration; i am truley sorry for your lots.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469803</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28516251</id>
	<title>Not all the ThinkVantage software is bad</title>
	<author>stufff</author>
	<datestamp>1246299840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not all the ThinkVantage software is bad. The System Update software was great when I needed to update hardware drivers, none of this looking up exactly what I have and then logging into the manufacturer's website to download every driver update one by one.

The problem is TVSU now doesn't just give you driver updates, it prompts you to install a bunch of stupid malware Lenovo is pushing so that you think if you use anything but their 300\% marked up genuine lenovo batteries your computer will explode.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not all the ThinkVantage software is bad .
The System Update software was great when I needed to update hardware drivers , none of this looking up exactly what I have and then logging into the manufacturer 's website to download every driver update one by one .
The problem is TVSU now does n't just give you driver updates , it prompts you to install a bunch of stupid malware Lenovo is pushing so that you think if you use anything but their 300 \ % marked up genuine lenovo batteries your computer will explode .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not all the ThinkVantage software is bad.
The System Update software was great when I needed to update hardware drivers, none of this looking up exactly what I have and then logging into the manufacturer's website to download every driver update one by one.
The problem is TVSU now doesn't just give you driver updates, it prompts you to install a bunch of stupid malware Lenovo is pushing so that you think if you use anything but their 300\% marked up genuine lenovo batteries your computer will explode.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470687</id>
	<title>Re:No kidding!</title>
	<author>retchdog</author>
	<datestamp>1245962100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't had to deal with this yet, but I disabled most of Lenovo's start-up junk a while ago by using "autoruns". It has a nice interface and lets you hunt down running processes, and then gives the option to disable them permanently. Made booting XP a lot faster.</p><p><a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx" title="microsoft.com">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx</a> [microsoft.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't had to deal with this yet , but I disabled most of Lenovo 's start-up junk a while ago by using " autoruns " .
It has a nice interface and lets you hunt down running processes , and then gives the option to disable them permanently .
Made booting XP a lot faster.http : //technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx [ microsoft.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't had to deal with this yet, but I disabled most of Lenovo's start-up junk a while ago by using "autoruns".
It has a nice interface and lets you hunt down running processes, and then gives the option to disable them permanently.
Made booting XP a lot faster.http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx [microsoft.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469831</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470137</id>
	<title>Re:Just wait, it'll get even better</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245959760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you have any idea where your HP, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, or Sony laptop was actually built?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you have any idea where your HP , Acer , Asus , Toshiba , or Sony laptop was actually built ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you have any idea where your HP, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, or Sony laptop was actually built?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470007</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28472689</id>
	<title>Re:Obligatory Snark</title>
	<author>Sky Cry</author>
	<datestamp>1245925560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because they didn't bother supporting other operating systems.</p><p>What prevents them from doing the same on other operating systems, besides business reasons (small market share)? Other operating systems don't allow preinstalled software to run?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because they did n't bother supporting other operating systems.What prevents them from doing the same on other operating systems , besides business reasons ( small market share ) ?
Other operating systems do n't allow preinstalled software to run ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because they didn't bother supporting other operating systems.What prevents them from doing the same on other operating systems, besides business reasons (small market share)?
Other operating systems don't allow preinstalled software to run?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469907</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470215</id>
	<title>Re:Just wait, it'll get even better</title>
	<author>Skuld-Chan</author>
	<datestamp>1245960060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good thing you have a choice where you can buy a laptop (or a desktop) from...</p><p>I guess my Dell was made in Malaysia now that I look at it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good thing you have a choice where you can buy a laptop ( or a desktop ) from...I guess my Dell was made in Malaysia now that I look at it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good thing you have a choice where you can buy a laptop (or a desktop) from...I guess my Dell was made in Malaysia now that I look at it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470007</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469833</id>
	<title>this is dumb</title>
	<author>moderatorrater</author>
	<datestamp>1245958740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is the reason that I build my own computers whenever possible - the manufacturers install crap upon crap on your box. This is just taking it to the next level.<br> <br>

I wonder what it would cost to build computers without the annoying shit installed. Is that all that's making them profitable?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the reason that I build my own computers whenever possible - the manufacturers install crap upon crap on your box .
This is just taking it to the next level .
I wonder what it would cost to build computers without the annoying shit installed .
Is that all that 's making them profitable ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the reason that I build my own computers whenever possible - the manufacturers install crap upon crap on your box.
This is just taking it to the next level.
I wonder what it would cost to build computers without the annoying shit installed.
Is that all that's making them profitable?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28482263</id>
	<title>Gee, What A Smooth PR Move!</title>
	<author>CyberPhart</author>
	<datestamp>1246030620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Didn't ANYBODY at Lenovo stop and and say "Hey! We might piss off our users!"?

I've got a Lenovo T61 and like it. But, after this posting, I told the firewall not to let anything regarding Lenovo updates out on the web. I also shut the update feature off in the ThinkVantage Productivity Center, (never  found their updates worth much anyway).

Thanks for a very useful posting, whoever you are.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't ANYBODY at Lenovo stop and and say " Hey !
We might piss off our users ! " ?
I 've got a Lenovo T61 and like it .
But , after this posting , I told the firewall not to let anything regarding Lenovo updates out on the web .
I also shut the update feature off in the ThinkVantage Productivity Center , ( never found their updates worth much anyway ) .
Thanks for a very useful posting , whoever you are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't ANYBODY at Lenovo stop and and say "Hey!
We might piss off our users!"?
I've got a Lenovo T61 and like it.
But, after this posting, I told the firewall not to let anything regarding Lenovo updates out on the web.
I also shut the update feature off in the ThinkVantage Productivity Center, (never  found their updates worth much anyway).
Thanks for a very useful posting, whoever you are.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28476849</id>
	<title>Perfect timing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245946440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just signed up as a Lenovo authorized reseller.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just signed up as a Lenovo authorized reseller .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just signed up as a Lenovo authorized reseller.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471957</id>
	<title>Re:Its over</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the topic of thrones! You'll want to use one of Lenovo's new laptops as a cat box liner.</p><p>Stay away from Lenovo G530, they emit the loudest beep you will ever have the misfortune of hearing EVERY SINGLE TIME you plug in or unplug the AC adapter. The beep comes out the "PC Speaker" output of the onboard sound. You can turn all sound channel volumes down to 0\% and mute everything, and the volume of the power beep will only be reduced to ridiculously loud.</p><p>Lenovo forums and phone calls state that this is not a bug, and will not be addressed in any software or firmware updates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the topic of thrones !
You 'll want to use one of Lenovo 's new laptops as a cat box liner.Stay away from Lenovo G530 , they emit the loudest beep you will ever have the misfortune of hearing EVERY SINGLE TIME you plug in or unplug the AC adapter .
The beep comes out the " PC Speaker " output of the onboard sound .
You can turn all sound channel volumes down to 0 \ % and mute everything , and the volume of the power beep will only be reduced to ridiculously loud.Lenovo forums and phone calls state that this is not a bug , and will not be addressed in any software or firmware updates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the topic of thrones!
You'll want to use one of Lenovo's new laptops as a cat box liner.Stay away from Lenovo G530, they emit the loudest beep you will ever have the misfortune of hearing EVERY SINGLE TIME you plug in or unplug the AC adapter.
The beep comes out the "PC Speaker" output of the onboard sound.
You can turn all sound channel volumes down to 0\% and mute everything, and the volume of the power beep will only be reduced to ridiculously loud.Lenovo forums and phone calls state that this is not a bug, and will not be addressed in any software or firmware updates.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471015</id>
	<title>Wait till they install</title>
	<author>JohnnyGTO</author>
	<datestamp>1245963420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Green Dam software.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Green Dam software .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Green Dam software.
:-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469981</id>
	<title>compatibility</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245959280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if it's compatible with the rootkit that Sony so kindly installed for me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if it 's compatible with the rootkit that Sony so kindly installed for me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if it's compatible with the rootkit that Sony so kindly installed for me?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470257</id>
	<title>What the hell were they thinking?</title>
	<author>WCMI92</author>
	<datestamp>1245960240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What idiot in marketing (marketing majors have no souls) convinced an even bigger idiot in management that this would be a good idea?</p><p>People LOVE popups, right, everyone knows this, right?</p><p>A stunt like this isn't going to increase sales, it's going to DECREASE them.  And, this is yet another example why I DO NOT run any sort of automatic update.  I update software/drivers, etc, when I feel a NEED to do so, if it's working, leave it alone.  Updates only usually end up in adding more bloat to a system anyway, look at how Acrobat reader is 10 times the size it was a couple years ago yet doesn't do anything significantly different.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What idiot in marketing ( marketing majors have no souls ) convinced an even bigger idiot in management that this would be a good idea ? People LOVE popups , right , everyone knows this , right ? A stunt like this is n't going to increase sales , it 's going to DECREASE them .
And , this is yet another example why I DO NOT run any sort of automatic update .
I update software/drivers , etc , when I feel a NEED to do so , if it 's working , leave it alone .
Updates only usually end up in adding more bloat to a system anyway , look at how Acrobat reader is 10 times the size it was a couple years ago yet does n't do anything significantly different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What idiot in marketing (marketing majors have no souls) convinced an even bigger idiot in management that this would be a good idea?People LOVE popups, right, everyone knows this, right?A stunt like this isn't going to increase sales, it's going to DECREASE them.
And, this is yet another example why I DO NOT run any sort of automatic update.
I update software/drivers, etc, when I feel a NEED to do so, if it's working, leave it alone.
Updates only usually end up in adding more bloat to a system anyway, look at how Acrobat reader is 10 times the size it was a couple years ago yet doesn't do anything significantly different.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469907</id>
	<title>Obligatory Snark</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245958980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>This issue only affects Windows users.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This issue only affects Windows users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This issue only affects Windows users.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28478005</id>
	<title>Re:this is dumb</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245956220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Laptops are a bit of a different game, but I share your sentiments.  The bottom line is that IBM developed a series of products that withstand physical punishment, are easy to repair and modify, and were supported in a flexible way that allowed users to take as much control of their systems as they felt like doing.  I didn't think Lenovo would be stupid enough to abandon that strategy, which has made Thinkpads the dominant laptop line in the business market, but apparently they've decided to go the low road and let their marketing groups take control... like so many companies before them.  The market, apparently, is satisfied by an army of mobile billboards and shiny trinkets.</p><p>"Freedom from choice is what you want."  -DEVO</p><p>It is also worth remembering that Lenovo yanked the update service after stringing users along for months.  Once the service was brought back (by outcry), it immediately began pumping wrong and inadequate drivers and buggy utilities (unlike previous years).  Lack of a useful version management utility wouldn't be so bad, except that the online download facilities are overly tedious, unnecessarily obfuscated,  and poorly organized.</p><p>Somebody over there has got to get their groove back on, because what is going on is pretty Best Buy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Laptops are a bit of a different game , but I share your sentiments .
The bottom line is that IBM developed a series of products that withstand physical punishment , are easy to repair and modify , and were supported in a flexible way that allowed users to take as much control of their systems as they felt like doing .
I did n't think Lenovo would be stupid enough to abandon that strategy , which has made Thinkpads the dominant laptop line in the business market , but apparently they 've decided to go the low road and let their marketing groups take control... like so many companies before them .
The market , apparently , is satisfied by an army of mobile billboards and shiny trinkets .
" Freedom from choice is what you want .
" -DEVOIt is also worth remembering that Lenovo yanked the update service after stringing users along for months .
Once the service was brought back ( by outcry ) , it immediately began pumping wrong and inadequate drivers and buggy utilities ( unlike previous years ) .
Lack of a useful version management utility would n't be so bad , except that the online download facilities are overly tedious , unnecessarily obfuscated , and poorly organized.Somebody over there has got to get their groove back on , because what is going on is pretty Best Buy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Laptops are a bit of a different game, but I share your sentiments.
The bottom line is that IBM developed a series of products that withstand physical punishment, are easy to repair and modify, and were supported in a flexible way that allowed users to take as much control of their systems as they felt like doing.
I didn't think Lenovo would be stupid enough to abandon that strategy, which has made Thinkpads the dominant laptop line in the business market, but apparently they've decided to go the low road and let their marketing groups take control... like so many companies before them.
The market, apparently, is satisfied by an army of mobile billboards and shiny trinkets.
"Freedom from choice is what you want.
"  -DEVOIt is also worth remembering that Lenovo yanked the update service after stringing users along for months.
Once the service was brought back (by outcry), it immediately began pumping wrong and inadequate drivers and buggy utilities (unlike previous years).
Lack of a useful version management utility wouldn't be so bad, except that the online download facilities are overly tedious, unnecessarily obfuscated,  and poorly organized.Somebody over there has got to get their groove back on, because what is going on is pretty Best Buy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469833</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469989</id>
	<title>Re:Lenovo has officially jumped the shark</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1245959280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I realize it shouldn't be required, but it's not difficult to go through the Add/Remove list and get it all out.  They're nice enough to have similar-looking icons for all the crap that does nothing except hang.  One of their helpful applications refused to close, so every time I shut down my computer and walked away I came back to be greeted by a box asking if I really wanted to end this one process that refused to die.  That's what triggered the mass uninstall.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I realize it should n't be required , but it 's not difficult to go through the Add/Remove list and get it all out .
They 're nice enough to have similar-looking icons for all the crap that does nothing except hang .
One of their helpful applications refused to close , so every time I shut down my computer and walked away I came back to be greeted by a box asking if I really wanted to end this one process that refused to die .
That 's what triggered the mass uninstall .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I realize it shouldn't be required, but it's not difficult to go through the Add/Remove list and get it all out.
They're nice enough to have similar-looking icons for all the crap that does nothing except hang.
One of their helpful applications refused to close, so every time I shut down my computer and walked away I came back to be greeted by a box asking if I really wanted to end this one process that refused to die.
That's what triggered the mass uninstall.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469849</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28478685</id>
	<title>Re:this is dumb</title>
	<author>Stan Vassilev</author>
	<datestamp>1246048680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wish MS would step in and stop them from ruining otherwise decent laptops.</p></div><p>

Microsoft wishes it could step in as well. The reason they don't, is in the past this has been treated as Microsoft "abusing their monopoly", with everyone jumping in to sue them, hence today they must allow OEM to tweak the Windows setup any way they wish before deploying it in their laptops.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish MS would step in and stop them from ruining otherwise decent laptops .
Microsoft wishes it could step in as well .
The reason they do n't , is in the past this has been treated as Microsoft " abusing their monopoly " , with everyone jumping in to sue them , hence today they must allow OEM to tweak the Windows setup any way they wish before deploying it in their laptops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish MS would step in and stop them from ruining otherwise decent laptops.
Microsoft wishes it could step in as well.
The reason they don't, is in the past this has been treated as Microsoft "abusing their monopoly", with everyone jumping in to sue them, hence today they must allow OEM to tweak the Windows setup any way they wish before deploying it in their laptops.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470359</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470523</id>
	<title>Re:How is adware formed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245961380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is that even English?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that even English ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that even English?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470225</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470359</id>
	<title>Re:this is dumb</title>
	<author>gad\_zuki!</author>
	<datestamp>1245960660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just bought my brother a little lenovo and was shocked at the amount and general crapiness of the lenovo apps it came with. One of them was crashing at bootup. Its amazing how bad the situation is with OEM crapware nowadays.</p><p>I spent 30 minutes doing uninstalls. Err no thanks Lenovo, I dont need your unstable wireless manager when the MS one is just fine.</p><p>Once I cleared it all it ran like a top.  I wish MS would step in and stop them from ruining otherwise decent laptops.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just bought my brother a little lenovo and was shocked at the amount and general crapiness of the lenovo apps it came with .
One of them was crashing at bootup .
Its amazing how bad the situation is with OEM crapware nowadays.I spent 30 minutes doing uninstalls .
Err no thanks Lenovo , I dont need your unstable wireless manager when the MS one is just fine.Once I cleared it all it ran like a top .
I wish MS would step in and stop them from ruining otherwise decent laptops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just bought my brother a little lenovo and was shocked at the amount and general crapiness of the lenovo apps it came with.
One of them was crashing at bootup.
Its amazing how bad the situation is with OEM crapware nowadays.I spent 30 minutes doing uninstalls.
Err no thanks Lenovo, I dont need your unstable wireless manager when the MS one is just fine.Once I cleared it all it ran like a top.
I wish MS would step in and stop them from ruining otherwise decent laptops.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469833</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470059</id>
	<title>Re:Wait...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245959520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's gotta be a marketing suicide!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's got ta be a marketing suicide !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's gotta be a marketing suicide!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469793</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28476963</id>
	<title>Re:this is dumb</title>
	<author>maglor\_83</author>
	<datestamp>1245947400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wish MS would step in and stop them from ruining otherwise decent laptops.</p></div><p>As much as I hate all that crap, I wouldn't wish that in a million years.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish MS would step in and stop them from ruining otherwise decent laptops.As much as I hate all that crap , I would n't wish that in a million years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish MS would step in and stop them from ruining otherwise decent laptops.As much as I hate all that crap, I wouldn't wish that in a million years.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470359</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471551</id>
	<title>Re:What the hell were they thinking?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245921900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone who admits to using Acrobat Reader gets a +5 Interesting on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. ?</p><p>What the hell... I can't feel my legs! I feel dizzy and the room is tumbl... who turned out the lights?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone who admits to using Acrobat Reader gets a + 5 Interesting on / .
? What the hell... I ca n't feel my legs !
I feel dizzy and the room is tumbl... who turned out the lights ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone who admits to using Acrobat Reader gets a +5 Interesting on /.
?What the hell... I can't feel my legs!
I feel dizzy and the room is tumbl... who turned out the lights?
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470257</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470675</id>
	<title>Re:What the hell were they thinking?</title>
	<author>CSFFlame</author>
	<datestamp>1245962040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Foxit reader.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Foxit reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Foxit reader.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470257</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469831</id>
	<title>No kidding!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245958680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I ran into this problem the other day.  It ask you if you do not want to show the ads anymore, but it doesn't accept your answer and shows them over and over.  I finally figured out what app was causing it and disabled it in msconfig.  I can't remember what it was right now, but when I get home I will reply to this with the name of the app to disable.</p><p>btw, I got the adware when I installed the Thinkpad Wireless software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ran into this problem the other day .
It ask you if you do not want to show the ads anymore , but it does n't accept your answer and shows them over and over .
I finally figured out what app was causing it and disabled it in msconfig .
I ca n't remember what it was right now , but when I get home I will reply to this with the name of the app to disable.btw , I got the adware when I installed the Thinkpad Wireless software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ran into this problem the other day.
It ask you if you do not want to show the ads anymore, but it doesn't accept your answer and shows them over and over.
I finally figured out what app was causing it and disabled it in msconfig.
I can't remember what it was right now, but when I get home I will reply to this with the name of the app to disable.btw, I got the adware when I installed the Thinkpad Wireless software.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470719</id>
	<title>A good hack</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1245962280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At the time they were all sitting around thinking of how to renew ad ventures, this idea came up...<br>At the next presentation, they will be sure NOT to use a Lenovo thinkpad to present the new ads,<br>in case the old ads pop up over top of the the new ones! : P</p><p>The genius minds of one culture might be leagues behind the genius minds of another...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At the time they were all sitting around thinking of how to renew ad ventures , this idea came up...At the next presentation , they will be sure NOT to use a Lenovo thinkpad to present the new ads,in case the old ads pop up over top of the the new ones !
: PThe genius minds of one culture might be leagues behind the genius minds of another.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the time they were all sitting around thinking of how to renew ad ventures, this idea came up...At the next presentation, they will be sure NOT to use a Lenovo thinkpad to present the new ads,in case the old ads pop up over top of the the new ones!
: PThe genius minds of one culture might be leagues behind the genius minds of another...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470101</id>
	<title>BAH</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245959640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here <a href="http://78cb4d4c.thatsprime.com/" title="thatsprime.com" rel="nofollow">http://78cb4d4c.thatsprime.com/</a> [thatsprime.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here http : //78cb4d4c.thatsprime.com/ [ thatsprime.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here http://78cb4d4c.thatsprime.com/ [thatsprime.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28489159</id>
	<title>That's the least of two problems so far</title>
	<author>treeves</author>
	<datestamp>1246015380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with my brand new Thinkpad W500, a very good machine otherwise. The bigger headache for me was fixing an ATI graphics driver that was giving me random BSODs with the message "ati2dvag.dll stuck in infinite loop". I had to manually update the driver from the ATI website following some instructions I found by googling. So far, so good.<br>Now I have to have to keep reading to find out if I can get rid of the adware, which I've so far seen pop up only once. Annoying.<br>Oh, also the keyboard is not quite as solid as it was on the T43 I upgraded from, but I think I'll get used to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with my brand new Thinkpad W500 , a very good machine otherwise .
The bigger headache for me was fixing an ATI graphics driver that was giving me random BSODs with the message " ati2dvag.dll stuck in infinite loop " .
I had to manually update the driver from the ATI website following some instructions I found by googling .
So far , so good.Now I have to have to keep reading to find out if I can get rid of the adware , which I 've so far seen pop up only once .
Annoying.Oh , also the keyboard is not quite as solid as it was on the T43 I upgraded from , but I think I 'll get used to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with my brand new Thinkpad W500, a very good machine otherwise.
The bigger headache for me was fixing an ATI graphics driver that was giving me random BSODs with the message "ati2dvag.dll stuck in infinite loop".
I had to manually update the driver from the ATI website following some instructions I found by googling.
So far, so good.Now I have to have to keep reading to find out if I can get rid of the adware, which I've so far seen pop up only once.
Annoying.Oh, also the keyboard is not quite as solid as it was on the T43 I upgraded from, but I think I'll get used to it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28479503</id>
	<title>Re:It's The Timing...Stupid!</title>
	<author>pandrijeczko</author>
	<datestamp>1246013160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With all respect to you, if it's that important to you that you need to have good presentations for your customers, then maybe you ought to think about taking a basic PC training course so you know how to become more responsible for your own PC?</p><p>There are lots of useful things that can pop up onto the screen, the Gmail and weather monitoring add-ons in Mozilla Firefox spring to mind as two examples. But it's just a case of not having them running while presenting; or if it's something caused by a system service, then a bit of know how in understanding how to turn it off for a while is the solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With all respect to you , if it 's that important to you that you need to have good presentations for your customers , then maybe you ought to think about taking a basic PC training course so you know how to become more responsible for your own PC ? There are lots of useful things that can pop up onto the screen , the Gmail and weather monitoring add-ons in Mozilla Firefox spring to mind as two examples .
But it 's just a case of not having them running while presenting ; or if it 's something caused by a system service , then a bit of know how in understanding how to turn it off for a while is the solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With all respect to you, if it's that important to you that you need to have good presentations for your customers, then maybe you ought to think about taking a basic PC training course so you know how to become more responsible for your own PC?There are lots of useful things that can pop up onto the screen, the Gmail and weather monitoring add-ons in Mozilla Firefox spring to mind as two examples.
But it's just a case of not having them running while presenting; or if it's something caused by a system service, then a bit of know how in understanding how to turn it off for a while is the solution.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471417</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470419</id>
	<title>Re:No kidding!</title>
	<author>Snowblindeye</author>
	<datestamp>1245960900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I finally figured out what app was causing it and disabled it in msconfig.  I can't remember what it was right now, but when I get home I will reply to this with the name of the app to disable.</p></div><p>According to the article its called Message Center Plus. Here's uninstall instructions from the linked thread:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Just go to control panel and uninstall [Message Center] in add/remove programs.<br>
Next time you use System Update when it tries to reinstall Message Center Plus, click on the plus sign and instead of selecting it in the enlarged menu choose hide the update. Then you won't see it next time you run System Update.
Of course if Lenovo brings out new releases of Message Center Plus you will have to hide them too.</p> </div><p>And here, also from the thread, instructions to disable it without uninstalling:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>start--&gt;runs--&gt;type msconfig---&gt;go to  menue tab --&gt; startup ---&gt; in the list of startup items---&gt; <br>
 unhook<br>
[  ] MCPLaunch<br>
 &amp;<br>
[  ] Scheduler\_proxy<br>
   --&gt;apply--&gt; ok then a restart is required--&gt; system<br>
after restart<br>
--&gt;set in the upcoming message a hook , so that it next time didnt comes up..</p> </div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I finally figured out what app was causing it and disabled it in msconfig .
I ca n't remember what it was right now , but when I get home I will reply to this with the name of the app to disable.According to the article its called Message Center Plus .
Here 's uninstall instructions from the linked thread : Just go to control panel and uninstall [ Message Center ] in add/remove programs .
Next time you use System Update when it tries to reinstall Message Center Plus , click on the plus sign and instead of selecting it in the enlarged menu choose hide the update .
Then you wo n't see it next time you run System Update .
Of course if Lenovo brings out new releases of Message Center Plus you will have to hide them too .
And here , also from the thread , instructions to disable it without uninstalling : start-- &gt; runs-- &gt; type msconfig--- &gt; go to menue tab -- &gt; startup --- &gt; in the list of startup items--- &gt; unhook [ ] MCPLaunch &amp; [ ] Scheduler \ _proxy -- &gt; apply-- &gt; ok then a restart is required-- &gt; system after restart -- &gt; set in the upcoming message a hook , so that it next time didnt comes up. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I finally figured out what app was causing it and disabled it in msconfig.
I can't remember what it was right now, but when I get home I will reply to this with the name of the app to disable.According to the article its called Message Center Plus.
Here's uninstall instructions from the linked thread:Just go to control panel and uninstall [Message Center] in add/remove programs.
Next time you use System Update when it tries to reinstall Message Center Plus, click on the plus sign and instead of selecting it in the enlarged menu choose hide the update.
Then you won't see it next time you run System Update.
Of course if Lenovo brings out new releases of Message Center Plus you will have to hide them too.
And here, also from the thread, instructions to disable it without uninstalling:start--&gt;runs--&gt;type msconfig---&gt;go to  menue tab --&gt; startup ---&gt; in the list of startup items---&gt; 
 unhook
[  ] MCPLaunch
 &amp;
[  ] Scheduler\_proxy
   --&gt;apply--&gt; ok then a restart is required--&gt; system
after restart
--&gt;set in the upcoming message a hook , so that it next time didnt comes up.. 
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469831</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470455</id>
	<title>What would make it even better...</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1245961020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
The only thing that would make this better is if Lenovo sold ad space.  Imagine explaining the pr0n popups during your next big presentation.  This seems so inevitable that I'm astonished that they haven't already done it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only thing that would make this better is if Lenovo sold ad space .
Imagine explaining the pr0n popups during your next big presentation .
This seems so inevitable that I 'm astonished that they have n't already done it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
The only thing that would make this better is if Lenovo sold ad space.
Imagine explaining the pr0n popups during your next big presentation.
This seems so inevitable that I'm astonished that they haven't already done it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28478425</id>
	<title>Re:Just wait, it'll get even better</title>
	<author>Khyber</author>
	<datestamp>1246046460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Do you have any idea where your HP, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, or Sony laptop was actually built?"</p><p>After having it repaired/Tier-X? Yes, I know every place my entire laptop got rebuilt (I love my ADP warranty) and not a one of them was outside the USA. In fact it was sent to cities not even 100 miles from me.</p><p>Apple mobos used to be manufactured and assembled in Guadalajara, Mexico, along with most of the computer. In fact, quite a lot of assembly and software installation happens in Mexico. See, hauling all that silicon and metal across the Pacific gets kinda... EXPENSIVE.</p><p>Looks like you're the one without an idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Do you have any idea where your HP , Acer , Asus , Toshiba , or Sony laptop was actually built ?
" After having it repaired/Tier-X ?
Yes , I know every place my entire laptop got rebuilt ( I love my ADP warranty ) and not a one of them was outside the USA .
In fact it was sent to cities not even 100 miles from me.Apple mobos used to be manufactured and assembled in Guadalajara , Mexico , along with most of the computer .
In fact , quite a lot of assembly and software installation happens in Mexico .
See , hauling all that silicon and metal across the Pacific gets kinda... EXPENSIVE.Looks like you 're the one without an idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Do you have any idea where your HP, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, or Sony laptop was actually built?
"After having it repaired/Tier-X?
Yes, I know every place my entire laptop got rebuilt (I love my ADP warranty) and not a one of them was outside the USA.
In fact it was sent to cities not even 100 miles from me.Apple mobos used to be manufactured and assembled in Guadalajara, Mexico, along with most of the computer.
In fact, quite a lot of assembly and software installation happens in Mexico.
See, hauling all that silicon and metal across the Pacific gets kinda... EXPENSIVE.Looks like you're the one without an idea.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470137</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28472555</id>
	<title>Re:this is dumb</title>
	<author>Sky Cry</author>
	<datestamp>1245925080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Build your own computers just because of that? Why?</p><p>All you have to do is uninstall vendor software or reinstall the whole OS and you're safe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Build your own computers just because of that ?
Why ? All you have to do is uninstall vendor software or reinstall the whole OS and you 're safe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Build your own computers just because of that?
Why?All you have to do is uninstall vendor software or reinstall the whole OS and you're safe.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469833</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470625</id>
	<title>For those that don't get it:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245961740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/How\_is\_babby\_formed?" title="encycloped...matica.com" rel="nofollow">Encyclopedia Dramatica "article"</a> [encycloped...matica.com] and <a href="http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf" title="somethingawful.com" rel="nofollow">Flash (*shudder*) animation</a> [somethingawful.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Encyclopedia Dramatica " article " [ encycloped...matica.com ] and Flash ( * shudder * ) animation [ somethingawful.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Encyclopedia Dramatica "article" [encycloped...matica.com] and Flash (*shudder*) animation [somethingawful.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470225</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470773</id>
	<title>This is why you should use a Mac</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245962520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obligatory "Doesn't happen on a Mac" comment!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obligatory " Does n't happen on a Mac " comment !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obligatory "Doesn't happen on a Mac" comment!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469793</id>
	<title>Wait...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245958560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It hid some guy's PowerPoint presentation? I'd consider that a feature not a bug.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It hid some guy 's PowerPoint presentation ?
I 'd consider that a feature not a bug .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It hid some guy's PowerPoint presentation?
I'd consider that a feature not a bug.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470347</id>
	<title>Re:Lenovo has officially jumped the shark</title>
	<author>zaibazu</author>
	<datestamp>1245960600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Thinkpad SL series ist your average walmart consumer notebook, theres almost nothing left of the original thinkpad glory in that one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Thinkpad SL series ist your average walmart consumer notebook , theres almost nothing left of the original thinkpad glory in that one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Thinkpad SL series ist your average walmart consumer notebook, theres almost nothing left of the original thinkpad glory in that one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469849</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28478659</id>
	<title>Re:I have a great idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246048440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the best treatment of this topic I've seen so far.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the best treatment of this topic I 've seen so far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the best treatment of this topic I've seen so far.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470935</id>
	<title>Re:this is dumb</title>
	<author>Tubal-Cain</author>
	<datestamp>1245963180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I spent 30 minutes doing uninstalls.</p></div><p>Only 30 minutes? I envy you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I spent 30 minutes doing uninstalls.Only 30 minutes ?
I envy you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I spent 30 minutes doing uninstalls.Only 30 minutes?
I envy you.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470359</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470487</id>
	<title>Re:Lenovo has officially jumped the shark</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245961200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whilst we're doing anecdotes, my Lenovo X301 running Kubuntu 9.10 is the best laptop ever, period. Even better, when 4GB and 8GB DDR3 SODIMMs become available, I can have 8 or 16GB of RAM in this thing. Running Virtualbox I can sync with my iPod etc and it is like I'm using a native Windows machine.</p><p>Of course, I blew away the default Windows Vista Business install and all the crappy apps that came with it..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whilst we 're doing anecdotes , my Lenovo X301 running Kubuntu 9.10 is the best laptop ever , period .
Even better , when 4GB and 8GB DDR3 SODIMMs become available , I can have 8 or 16GB of RAM in this thing .
Running Virtualbox I can sync with my iPod etc and it is like I 'm using a native Windows machine.Of course , I blew away the default Windows Vista Business install and all the crappy apps that came with it. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whilst we're doing anecdotes, my Lenovo X301 running Kubuntu 9.10 is the best laptop ever, period.
Even better, when 4GB and 8GB DDR3 SODIMMs become available, I can have 8 or 16GB of RAM in this thing.
Running Virtualbox I can sync with my iPod etc and it is like I'm using a native Windows machine.Of course, I blew away the default Windows Vista Business install and all the crappy apps that came with it..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469849</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471653</id>
	<title>Re:What the hell were they thinking?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245922260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1.) Losing 1 to 2 hours due to a bad update that escaped through internal and external QA: 200 dollars<br>2.) Getting compromised because the vendor included fixes for unlisted publicly exploited problems:  priceless</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
) Losing 1 to 2 hours due to a bad update that escaped through internal and external QA : 200 dollars2 .
) Getting compromised because the vendor included fixes for unlisted publicly exploited problems : priceless</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
) Losing 1 to 2 hours due to a bad update that escaped through internal and external QA: 200 dollars2.
) Getting compromised because the vendor included fixes for unlisted publicly exploited problems:  priceless</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470257</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470949</id>
	<title>Re:How is adware formed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245963180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You misspelled your handle too, Mr. "iPhoneFreak".  You really needs a clicky keyboard.<br> <br>
-Anymonus Coward</htmltext>
<tokenext>You misspelled your handle too , Mr. " iPhoneFreak " . You really needs a clicky keyboard .
-Anymonus Coward</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You misspelled your handle too, Mr. "iPhoneFreak".  You really needs a clicky keyboard.
-Anymonus Coward</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470225</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28472773</id>
	<title>Re:Chinese Economic Warfare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245925920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dom Portwood: Hi, Peter. What's happening? We need to talk about your TPS reports.<br>Peter Gibbons: Yeah. The coversheet. I know, I know. Uh, Bill talked to me about it.<br>Dom Portwood: Yeah. Did you get that memo?<br>Peter Gibbons: Yeah. I got the memo. And I understand the policy. And the problem is just that I forgot the one time. And I've already taken care of it so it's not even really a problem anymore.<br>Dom Portwood: Ah! Yeah. It's just we're putting new coversheets on all the TPS reports before they go out now. So if you could go ahead and try to remember to do that from now on, that'd be great. All right!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dom Portwood : Hi , Peter .
What 's happening ?
We need to talk about your TPS reports.Peter Gibbons : Yeah .
The coversheet .
I know , I know .
Uh , Bill talked to me about it.Dom Portwood : Yeah .
Did you get that memo ? Peter Gibbons : Yeah .
I got the memo .
And I understand the policy .
And the problem is just that I forgot the one time .
And I 've already taken care of it so it 's not even really a problem anymore.Dom Portwood : Ah !
Yeah. It 's just we 're putting new coversheets on all the TPS reports before they go out now .
So if you could go ahead and try to remember to do that from now on , that 'd be great .
All right !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dom Portwood: Hi, Peter.
What's happening?
We need to talk about your TPS reports.Peter Gibbons: Yeah.
The coversheet.
I know, I know.
Uh, Bill talked to me about it.Dom Portwood: Yeah.
Did you get that memo?Peter Gibbons: Yeah.
I got the memo.
And I understand the policy.
And the problem is just that I forgot the one time.
And I've already taken care of it so it's not even really a problem anymore.Dom Portwood: Ah!
Yeah. It's just we're putting new coversheets on all the TPS reports before they go out now.
So if you could go ahead and try to remember to do that from now on, that'd be great.
All right!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470165</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470007</id>
	<title>Just wait, it'll get even better</title>
	<author>TrentTheThief</author>
	<datestamp>1245959340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just think how wonderful it will be once the red chinese government puts their own stealthy spyware right into the microcode!</p><p>Are you having paranoid thought now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just think how wonderful it will be once the red chinese government puts their own stealthy spyware right into the microcode ! Are you having paranoid thought now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just think how wonderful it will be once the red chinese government puts their own stealthy spyware right into the microcode!Are you having paranoid thought now?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470277</id>
	<title>Re:this is dumb</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245960360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lets see, a new dell costs about 3 grand I can build a computer like it for 1 grand.  They do have lots of over head however but with 2 grand left over, I would say more as their hardware is crap, I would say no.  Always build your own computer never buy from big business as they are ripping you off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lets see , a new dell costs about 3 grand I can build a computer like it for 1 grand .
They do have lots of over head however but with 2 grand left over , I would say more as their hardware is crap , I would say no .
Always build your own computer never buy from big business as they are ripping you off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lets see, a new dell costs about 3 grand I can build a computer like it for 1 grand.
They do have lots of over head however but with 2 grand left over, I would say more as their hardware is crap, I would say no.
Always build your own computer never buy from big business as they are ripping you off.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469833</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28477557</id>
	<title>the "true" purpose</title>
	<author>Klintus Fang</author>
	<datestamp>1245952020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>lenovo is really just trying to motivate me to stop being lazy and finally uninstall all the software they pre-installed on the laptop I purchased earlier this year.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>lenovo is really just trying to motivate me to stop being lazy and finally uninstall all the software they pre-installed on the laptop I purchased earlier this year .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>lenovo is really just trying to motivate me to stop being lazy and finally uninstall all the software they pre-installed on the laptop I purchased earlier this year.
;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469935</id>
	<title>Its over</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245959160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thats it folks, thinkpads are officially dethroned as the king of business laptops.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats it folks , thinkpads are officially dethroned as the king of business laptops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats it folks, thinkpads are officially dethroned as the king of business laptops.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470375</id>
	<title>Re:Its over</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245960720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They were already on their way out the moment they were purchased by a foreign company with some degree of state control.</p><p>(Yeah, even the "domestic" companies foreign-source most of their parts but at least the system design is domestically controlled.)</p><p>I work for a defense contractor, the moment the Lenovo buyout happened we stopped buying Thinkpads and went to Dell.  It was pretty much mandated by the customer.  (If I recall correctly, there were a lot of news articles about the government banning further Thinkpad purchases post-Lenovo across the board around that time.)</p><p>Now, Lenovo has effectively done just what the US government feared they might do - try to sneak stuff onto customers' machines for their own gain.</p><p>Who knows what else in addition to this adware is getting slipped to customers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They were already on their way out the moment they were purchased by a foreign company with some degree of state control .
( Yeah , even the " domestic " companies foreign-source most of their parts but at least the system design is domestically controlled .
) I work for a defense contractor , the moment the Lenovo buyout happened we stopped buying Thinkpads and went to Dell .
It was pretty much mandated by the customer .
( If I recall correctly , there were a lot of news articles about the government banning further Thinkpad purchases post-Lenovo across the board around that time .
) Now , Lenovo has effectively done just what the US government feared they might do - try to sneak stuff onto customers ' machines for their own gain.Who knows what else in addition to this adware is getting slipped to customers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They were already on their way out the moment they were purchased by a foreign company with some degree of state control.
(Yeah, even the "domestic" companies foreign-source most of their parts but at least the system design is domestically controlled.
)I work for a defense contractor, the moment the Lenovo buyout happened we stopped buying Thinkpads and went to Dell.
It was pretty much mandated by the customer.
(If I recall correctly, there were a lot of news articles about the government banning further Thinkpad purchases post-Lenovo across the board around that time.
)Now, Lenovo has effectively done just what the US government feared they might do - try to sneak stuff onto customers' machines for their own gain.Who knows what else in addition to this adware is getting slipped to customers?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469935</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471741</id>
	<title>Re:Change of Plans</title>
	<author>cockpitcomp</author>
	<datestamp>1245922500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How can they ever "fully resolve" this issue without a brain transplant. Do you really want to do business with an idiot company? Decisions like this had to involve multiple people in charge, NOT a one-off bone-head making a mistake.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How can they ever " fully resolve " this issue without a brain transplant .
Do you really want to do business with an idiot company ?
Decisions like this had to involve multiple people in charge , NOT a one-off bone-head making a mistake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can they ever "fully resolve" this issue without a brain transplant.
Do you really want to do business with an idiot company?
Decisions like this had to involve multiple people in charge, NOT a one-off bone-head making a mistake.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470319</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28478583</id>
	<title>Re:this is dumb</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246047660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Is that all that's making them profitable?"</p><p>Yes.  I used to work for Lenovo.  The money wasn't made in the hardware, it was made in the software that was bundled with the computers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Is that all that 's making them profitable ? " Yes .
I used to work for Lenovo .
The money was n't made in the hardware , it was made in the software that was bundled with the computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Is that all that's making them profitable?"Yes.
I used to work for Lenovo.
The money wasn't made in the hardware, it was made in the software that was bundled with the computers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469833</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28474245</id>
	<title>Re:How is adware formed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245931980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Is that even English?</p></div></blockquote><p>Nope, it looks like odd English to me. And you can trust me. Cos I'm English.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that even English ? Nope , it looks like odd English to me .
And you can trust me .
Cos I 'm English .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that even English?Nope, it looks like odd English to me.
And you can trust me.
Cos I'm English.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470523</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470319</id>
	<title>Change of Plans</title>
	<author>Deton8</author>
	<datestamp>1245960480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, that's an incredibly stupid thing for Lenovo to do.  I was about to order a Lenovo for my next laptop and if it worked out I was going to ask our IT department to change from the current incumbents (Dell and Sony) to Lenovo for our sales and executive staff.  I'm going to wait to see that this issue is fully resolved before making a move, and if they don't fix it, they can forget about 20 to 30 laptop orders a year from my company.

I don't think my emotion would be unique -- I'm sure 90\% of IT managers would disqualify Lenovo if they knew about this spam pop-up problem and didn't have an easy way to disable it enterprise-wide.  Billions of dollars are at risk for something that probably only brings them a few hundred K$ per year.  Bone-headed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , that 's an incredibly stupid thing for Lenovo to do .
I was about to order a Lenovo for my next laptop and if it worked out I was going to ask our IT department to change from the current incumbents ( Dell and Sony ) to Lenovo for our sales and executive staff .
I 'm going to wait to see that this issue is fully resolved before making a move , and if they do n't fix it , they can forget about 20 to 30 laptop orders a year from my company .
I do n't think my emotion would be unique -- I 'm sure 90 \ % of IT managers would disqualify Lenovo if they knew about this spam pop-up problem and did n't have an easy way to disable it enterprise-wide .
Billions of dollars are at risk for something that probably only brings them a few hundred K $ per year .
Bone-headed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, that's an incredibly stupid thing for Lenovo to do.
I was about to order a Lenovo for my next laptop and if it worked out I was going to ask our IT department to change from the current incumbents (Dell and Sony) to Lenovo for our sales and executive staff.
I'm going to wait to see that this issue is fully resolved before making a move, and if they don't fix it, they can forget about 20 to 30 laptop orders a year from my company.
I don't think my emotion would be unique -- I'm sure 90\% of IT managers would disqualify Lenovo if they knew about this spam pop-up problem and didn't have an easy way to disable it enterprise-wide.
Billions of dollars are at risk for something that probably only brings them a few hundred K$ per year.
Bone-headed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28471695</id>
	<title>A thinkpad owner</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245922380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a Thinkpad owner, I can say with certainty that this is not as big of a deal as it is being made out to be.  For starters, the "Message Center" is an optional, separate component that you are under no obligation to download when you do a software update.  The updater walks you through the "critical" and "optional" updates, much like the Windows update does.  A description of the software is provided so that you know what you are downloading.</p><p>Anyone with half a brain would choose not to install the Message Center since it is obviously there to SEND MESSAGES from Lenovo to you.  The pop-ups pretty much fit in with the exact purpose of the Message Center, so Lenovo isn't exactly hiding anything!</p><p>If it comes pre-loaded, just uninstall it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a Thinkpad owner , I can say with certainty that this is not as big of a deal as it is being made out to be .
For starters , the " Message Center " is an optional , separate component that you are under no obligation to download when you do a software update .
The updater walks you through the " critical " and " optional " updates , much like the Windows update does .
A description of the software is provided so that you know what you are downloading.Anyone with half a brain would choose not to install the Message Center since it is obviously there to SEND MESSAGES from Lenovo to you .
The pop-ups pretty much fit in with the exact purpose of the Message Center , so Lenovo is n't exactly hiding anything ! If it comes pre-loaded , just uninstall it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a Thinkpad owner, I can say with certainty that this is not as big of a deal as it is being made out to be.
For starters, the "Message Center" is an optional, separate component that you are under no obligation to download when you do a software update.
The updater walks you through the "critical" and "optional" updates, much like the Windows update does.
A description of the software is provided so that you know what you are downloading.Anyone with half a brain would choose not to install the Message Center since it is obviously there to SEND MESSAGES from Lenovo to you.
The pop-ups pretty much fit in with the exact purpose of the Message Center, so Lenovo isn't exactly hiding anything!If it comes pre-loaded, just uninstall it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470155</id>
	<title>Re:No kidding!</title>
	<author>dburkland</author>
	<datestamp>1245959820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If all you did was install the Wireless software (I'm guessing they just don't allow you to download just the driver) then this is ridiculous and they will never get a dime from me. Even though I have wiped every laptop I have purchased and installed Linux doesn't mean that this is ok.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If all you did was install the Wireless software ( I 'm guessing they just do n't allow you to download just the driver ) then this is ridiculous and they will never get a dime from me .
Even though I have wiped every laptop I have purchased and installed Linux does n't mean that this is ok .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If all you did was install the Wireless software (I'm guessing they just don't allow you to download just the driver) then this is ridiculous and they will never get a dime from me.
Even though I have wiped every laptop I have purchased and installed Linux doesn't mean that this is ok.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469831</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470681</id>
	<title>it got me too</title>
	<author>chasmosis</author>
	<datestamp>1245962100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had this exact thing start happening earlier this week.  I googled it and used the instructions to disable the Lenovo Message Center Plus.  This is my work Laptop.  I openned a ticket and tried to explain to them what it was but no they had to treat my like a newbie and scan my harddrive for malware (like I hadn't already thought of that), I know its SOP but I already told them what it was.  The biggest reason for openning a Ticket was so they would know about it when somebody else here (all laptops are lenovo) gets the same thing.
<br>
<br>
Its convenient enough for me that it made Slashdot's front page so I can send this link to them.
<br>
<br>
SEE!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had this exact thing start happening earlier this week .
I googled it and used the instructions to disable the Lenovo Message Center Plus .
This is my work Laptop .
I openned a ticket and tried to explain to them what it was but no they had to treat my like a newbie and scan my harddrive for malware ( like I had n't already thought of that ) , I know its SOP but I already told them what it was .
The biggest reason for openning a Ticket was so they would know about it when somebody else here ( all laptops are lenovo ) gets the same thing .
Its convenient enough for me that it made Slashdot 's front page so I can send this link to them .
SEE ! ! !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had this exact thing start happening earlier this week.
I googled it and used the instructions to disable the Lenovo Message Center Plus.
This is my work Laptop.
I openned a ticket and tried to explain to them what it was but no they had to treat my like a newbie and scan my harddrive for malware (like I hadn't already thought of that), I know its SOP but I already told them what it was.
The biggest reason for openning a Ticket was so they would know about it when somebody else here (all laptops are lenovo) gets the same thing.
Its convenient enough for me that it made Slashdot's front page so I can send this link to them.
SEE!!!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28476269</id>
	<title>Re:Lenovo has officially jumped the shark</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245942120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>     They already jumped the shark -- IBM made Thinkpads with Linux, Lenovo immediately dropped them.  Done for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They already jumped the shark -- IBM made Thinkpads with Linux , Lenovo immediately dropped them .
Done for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     They already jumped the shark -- IBM made Thinkpads with Linux, Lenovo immediately dropped them.
Done for me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469849</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28472111</id>
	<title>Re:What the hell were they thinking?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Visualization of individual layers and objects within a sheet, 3d models, realtime colaberation.  Seems pretty useful in my workflows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Visualization of individual layers and objects within a sheet , 3d models , realtime colaberation .
Seems pretty useful in my workflows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Visualization of individual layers and objects within a sheet, 3d models, realtime colaberation.
Seems pretty useful in my workflows.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470257</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28469827</id>
	<title>Hmmm.</title>
	<author>y\_axis</author>
	<datestamp>1245958680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Annoying ad pop-up or Death by PowerPoint?  Nope.  Can't decide.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Annoying ad pop-up or Death by PowerPoint ?
Nope. Ca n't decide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Annoying ad pop-up or Death by PowerPoint?
Nope.  Can't decide.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470943</id>
	<title>Re:What the hell were they thinking?</title>
	<author>FutureDomain</author>
	<datestamp>1245963180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>look at how <strong>Acrobat reader</strong></p> </div><p>Well, there's your first problem.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>look at how Acrobat reader Well , there 's your first problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>look at how Acrobat reader Well, there's your first problem.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470257</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28479475</id>
	<title>Re:Just wait, it'll get even better</title>
	<author>junglee\_iitk</author>
	<datestamp>1246012860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think it will happen. It is really hard to write microcode that doesn't conflict with the one from NSA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think it will happen .
It is really hard to write microcode that does n't conflict with the one from NSA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it will happen.
It is really hard to write microcode that doesn't conflict with the one from NSA.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1757249.28470007</parent>
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