<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_24_2129216</id>
	<title>Cornell Computer Theft Puts 45,000 At Risk of Identity Theft</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1245838560000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://psoug.org/" rel="nofollow">PL/SQL Guy</a> writes <i>"This afternoon, <a href="http://cornellsun.com/node/37474">Cornell alerted over 45,000 current and former members of the University community</a> that their confidential personal information &mdash; including name and social security number &mdash; <a href="http://www.pressoffice.cornell.edu/pressoffice/statement.cfm?customel\_dataPageID\_19799=25499">had been leaked when a University-owned computer was stolen.</a> A Cornell employee had access to this data for troubleshooting purposes, and the files storing the sensitive information were being stored on a computer that was not physically secure. The university is not disclosing details about the theft. This isn't the first breach for Cornell; last June, a computer at Cornell used for administrative purposes was hacked, and the University alerted 2,500 students and alumni that their personal information had potentially been stolen."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>PL/SQL Guy writes " This afternoon , Cornell alerted over 45,000 current and former members of the University community that their confidential personal information    including name and social security number    had been leaked when a University-owned computer was stolen .
A Cornell employee had access to this data for troubleshooting purposes , and the files storing the sensitive information were being stored on a computer that was not physically secure .
The university is not disclosing details about the theft .
This is n't the first breach for Cornell ; last June , a computer at Cornell used for administrative purposes was hacked , and the University alerted 2,500 students and alumni that their personal information had potentially been stolen .
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<sentencetext>PL/SQL Guy writes "This afternoon, Cornell alerted over 45,000 current and former members of the University community that their confidential personal information — including name and social security number — had been leaked when a University-owned computer was stolen.
A Cornell employee had access to this data for troubleshooting purposes, and the files storing the sensitive information were being stored on a computer that was not physically secure.
The university is not disclosing details about the theft.
This isn't the first breach for Cornell; last June, a computer at Cornell used for administrative purposes was hacked, and the University alerted 2,500 students and alumni that their personal information had potentially been stolen.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28461741</id>
	<title>Wow this is bad, did you read this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245855120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://security.cuinfo.cornell.edu/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //security.cuinfo.cornell.edu/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://security.cuinfo.cornell.edu/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460013</id>
	<title>I wonder</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245843780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>how many times identity theft isn't reported, the high school I went to had a case reported that some kids had stolen the SS numbers from the schools network. I know because I was called in and questioned about it. I didn't do it, and I don't know if they ever found out, I don't think they did as no one was expelled. The IT Department was totally fucked though as a network with vulnerability like that was... well you get the idea.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I was on the network and saw some teachers files however, so I wonder if some other kids got further than I did. I knew not to let my, "young curiosity" go any further. College applications, let alone scholarships were at stake and fooling around the network like that was not worth not going to college.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; My point being, this was reported, and the results were inconclusive, what if they questioned the person who actually got the SSN's, and he got away with it. I wonder if a few credit cards in my name will be opened up in Asia in a few years, or already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>how many times identity theft is n't reported , the high school I went to had a case reported that some kids had stolen the SS numbers from the schools network .
I know because I was called in and questioned about it .
I did n't do it , and I do n't know if they ever found out , I do n't think they did as no one was expelled .
The IT Department was totally fucked though as a network with vulnerability like that was... well you get the idea .
              I was on the network and saw some teachers files however , so I wonder if some other kids got further than I did .
I knew not to let my , " young curiosity " go any further .
College applications , let alone scholarships were at stake and fooling around the network like that was not worth not going to college .
                My point being , this was reported , and the results were inconclusive , what if they questioned the person who actually got the SSN 's , and he got away with it .
I wonder if a few credit cards in my name will be opened up in Asia in a few years , or already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how many times identity theft isn't reported, the high school I went to had a case reported that some kids had stolen the SS numbers from the schools network.
I know because I was called in and questioned about it.
I didn't do it, and I don't know if they ever found out, I don't think they did as no one was expelled.
The IT Department was totally fucked though as a network with vulnerability like that was... well you get the idea.
              I was on the network and saw some teachers files however, so I wonder if some other kids got further than I did.
I knew not to let my, "young curiosity" go any further.
College applications, let alone scholarships were at stake and fooling around the network like that was not worth not going to college.
                My point being, this was reported, and the results were inconclusive, what if they questioned the person who actually got the SSN's, and he got away with it.
I wonder if a few credit cards in my name will be opened up in Asia in a few years, or already.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28459829</id>
	<title>Keeping User Data in a University....</title>
	<author>introspekt.i</author>
	<datestamp>1245842880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is like trying to hold water in a sifter.  It's only a matter of time before some doofus puts an<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.xls file with everybody's info into a web share and then says "hackers compromised the [publicly available] private student data".  Not like I haven't had any experience with this....or anything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is like trying to hold water in a sifter .
It 's only a matter of time before some doofus puts an .xls file with everybody 's info into a web share and then says " hackers compromised the [ publicly available ] private student data " .
Not like I have n't had any experience with this....or anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is like trying to hold water in a sifter.
It's only a matter of time before some doofus puts an .xls file with everybody's info into a web share and then says "hackers compromised the [publicly available] private student data".
Not like I haven't had any experience with this....or anything.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460093</id>
	<title>Here Comes Treble</title>
	<author>swanzilla</author>
	<datestamp>1245844260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd like to see Andy Bernard's (class of '95) transcript.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to see Andy Bernard 's ( class of '95 ) transcript .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to see Andy Bernard's (class of '95) transcript.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28462289</id>
	<title>As a former student...</title>
	<author>singularity</author>
	<datestamp>1245859080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have no idea how far back the stolen data goes, but I was a student at Cornell in the mid-90's. I can assure you that Cornell does not have my current email address (my university address expired after I left), and they do not have my current mailing address, either - I never receive mailed solicitations for money.</p><p>On their FAQ page, they assure everyone that they contacted everyone who had their data stolen via email or USPS. I am not saying that I was necessarily one of the victims here, but I am sure that there are other people in the 45,000 for whom that is true.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have no idea how far back the stolen data goes , but I was a student at Cornell in the mid-90 's .
I can assure you that Cornell does not have my current email address ( my university address expired after I left ) , and they do not have my current mailing address , either - I never receive mailed solicitations for money.On their FAQ page , they assure everyone that they contacted everyone who had their data stolen via email or USPS .
I am not saying that I was necessarily one of the victims here , but I am sure that there are other people in the 45,000 for whom that is true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have no idea how far back the stolen data goes, but I was a student at Cornell in the mid-90's.
I can assure you that Cornell does not have my current email address (my university address expired after I left), and they do not have my current mailing address, either - I never receive mailed solicitations for money.On their FAQ page, they assure everyone that they contacted everyone who had their data stolen via email or USPS.
I am not saying that I was necessarily one of the victims here, but I am sure that there are other people in the 45,000 for whom that is true.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460131</id>
	<title>CIT is completely incompetent</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245844440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the same IT department that recently switched over its management software to peoplesoft.  A wonderful web app that randomly throws COBOL errors and refuses to function.</p><p>Suprise Suprise.</p><p>I personally think this person was probably pretty far up the food chain.  There was no indication they were let go, and who else would think they were this far above the regulations regarding encryption of personal data.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the same IT department that recently switched over its management software to peoplesoft .
A wonderful web app that randomly throws COBOL errors and refuses to function.Suprise Suprise.I personally think this person was probably pretty far up the food chain .
There was no indication they were let go , and who else would think they were this far above the regulations regarding encryption of personal data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the same IT department that recently switched over its management software to peoplesoft.
A wonderful web app that randomly throws COBOL errors and refuses to function.Suprise Suprise.I personally think this person was probably pretty far up the food chain.
There was no indication they were let go, and who else would think they were this far above the regulations regarding encryption of personal data.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460383</id>
	<title>Creditor's problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245845580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Identifying clients should be the creditor's problem, not mine. I have little control over my own SSN, but I am supposed to now buy ID theft insurance?
Seems like Trans Union, TRW, Visa and the like should be able to figure something out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Identifying clients should be the creditor 's problem , not mine .
I have little control over my own SSN , but I am supposed to now buy ID theft insurance ?
Seems like Trans Union , TRW , Visa and the like should be able to figure something out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Identifying clients should be the creditor's problem, not mine.
I have little control over my own SSN, but I am supposed to now buy ID theft insurance?
Seems like Trans Union, TRW, Visa and the like should be able to figure something out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28459837</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460133</id>
	<title>No Big Deal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245844500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everything was encrypted, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything was encrypted , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything was encrypted, right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460869</id>
	<title>Third time's the charm</title>
	<author>brusk</author>
	<datestamp>1245848220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just got the email about this yesterday. It's the third time a university I've been associated with has had a major data leak (UCLA, Stanford, Cornell). The upside is that I've had free credit monitoring for the past few years!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just got the email about this yesterday .
It 's the third time a university I 've been associated with has had a major data leak ( UCLA , Stanford , Cornell ) .
The upside is that I 've had free credit monitoring for the past few years !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just got the email about this yesterday.
It's the third time a university I've been associated with has had a major data leak (UCLA, Stanford, Cornell).
The upside is that I've had free credit monitoring for the past few years!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28462357</id>
	<title>Full Disk Encryption is just too easy!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245859560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fedora has full disk encryption, any newbie can activate it.</p><p>What is wrong with these people?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fedora has full disk encryption , any newbie can activate it.What is wrong with these people ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fedora has full disk encryption, any newbie can activate it.What is wrong with these people?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28461799</id>
	<title>Re:Troubleshooting?</title>
	<author>ctmurray</author>
	<datestamp>1245855660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My wife was in IT at a large company. For testing purposes they had a set of data for fake employees that contained enough data to provide good testing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife was in IT at a large company .
For testing purposes they had a set of data for fake employees that contained enough data to provide good testing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife was in IT at a large company.
For testing purposes they had a set of data for fake employees that contained enough data to provide good testing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460065</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28459763</id>
	<title>Steal my willy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245842460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Imagine your willy being smacked until it bleeds!</p><p>Willy on Wheels!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine your willy being smacked until it bleeds ! Willy on Wheels !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine your willy being smacked until it bleeds!Willy on Wheels!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28463683</id>
	<title>Re:from Ivy League to Bush League</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245961560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Serves the antisemitic bastards right!
</p><p>
Go Columbia!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Serves the antisemitic bastards right !
Go Columbia ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Serves the antisemitic bastards right!
Go Columbia!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28459867</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460179</id>
	<title>Re:Social security numbers are worthless</title>
	<author>sexconker</author>
	<datestamp>1245844740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did some work for an electrical union (the office managing people's pensions and such) a couple of summers during high school.</p><p>We'd have people's names, SSNs, partial addresses, etc.</p><p>We needed to get mailings out to them.</p><p>Just hop on this website, click the "yes I'm authorized to look at this information" button, and then type in a name, phone number, partial address, or ssn.</p><p>You get a neat list of all peopel with that name/number/address/ssn (often multiple people with the same ssn LOL).  You even get a cool little family tree graphed out for you.</p><p>Your SSN is out there , just waiting to be plucked by some unscrupulous intern.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did some work for an electrical union ( the office managing people 's pensions and such ) a couple of summers during high school.We 'd have people 's names , SSNs , partial addresses , etc.We needed to get mailings out to them.Just hop on this website , click the " yes I 'm authorized to look at this information " button , and then type in a name , phone number , partial address , or ssn.You get a neat list of all peopel with that name/number/address/ssn ( often multiple people with the same ssn LOL ) .
You even get a cool little family tree graphed out for you.Your SSN is out there , just waiting to be plucked by some unscrupulous intern .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did some work for an electrical union (the office managing people's pensions and such) a couple of summers during high school.We'd have people's names, SSNs, partial addresses, etc.We needed to get mailings out to them.Just hop on this website, click the "yes I'm authorized to look at this information" button, and then type in a name, phone number, partial address, or ssn.You get a neat list of all peopel with that name/number/address/ssn (often multiple people with the same ssn LOL).
You even get a cool little family tree graphed out for you.Your SSN is out there , just waiting to be plucked by some unscrupulous intern.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28459837</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28464803</id>
	<title>SSN = identity?</title>
	<author>BraulioBezerra</author>
	<datestamp>1245934800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Let me understand...
</p><p>
There is a government site that returns your signature, photo, complete name, DNA, fingerprint, all passwords, a 3D model of you, your sex tapes, etc., in the case you've lost them... Just put your SSN and you get back your lost identity. Is this the problem with SSNs?
</p><p>
Maybe credit companies just accept that you are someone else just because you know his/her SSN and last name...
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me understand.. . There is a government site that returns your signature , photo , complete name , DNA , fingerprint , all passwords , a 3D model of you , your sex tapes , etc. , in the case you 've lost them... Just put your SSN and you get back your lost identity .
Is this the problem with SSNs ?
Maybe credit companies just accept that you are someone else just because you know his/her SSN and last name.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Let me understand...

There is a government site that returns your signature, photo, complete name, DNA, fingerprint, all passwords, a 3D model of you, your sex tapes, etc., in the case you've lost them... Just put your SSN and you get back your lost identity.
Is this the problem with SSNs?
Maybe credit companies just accept that you are someone else just because you know his/her SSN and last name...
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460119</id>
	<title>How much is your personal information worth?</title>
	<author>MrMista\_B</author>
	<datestamp>1245844440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sue them for that amount, x45,000.</p><p>Then maybe they'll take this seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sue them for that amount , x45,000.Then maybe they 'll take this seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sue them for that amount, x45,000.Then maybe they'll take this seriously.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28461517</id>
	<title>Absolute Liability?</title>
	<author>jmcharry</author>
	<datestamp>1245853320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe the solution to this is absolute liability for anyone who keeps personal information on anyone else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe the solution to this is absolute liability for anyone who keeps personal information on anyone else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe the solution to this is absolute liability for anyone who keeps personal information on anyone else.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28459971</id>
	<title>I was one of the 45K</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245843660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is extremely frustrating.  I encrypt my personal data when it is under my control.  It is unforgivable that an institution that I pay this much can't do the same.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is extremely frustrating .
I encrypt my personal data when it is under my control .
It is unforgivable that an institution that I pay this much ca n't do the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is extremely frustrating.
I encrypt my personal data when it is under my control.
It is unforgivable that an institution that I pay this much can't do the same.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460331</id>
	<title>Cross Cornell off the list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245845340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had considered Cornell for obtaining my Bachelor's - not any longer with this.</p><p>Even I have better security practices and I run windows machines without firewalls or AV software.</p><p>Over four years without infection! Common fucking sense FTW.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had considered Cornell for obtaining my Bachelor 's - not any longer with this.Even I have better security practices and I run windows machines without firewalls or AV software.Over four years without infection !
Common fucking sense FTW .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had considered Cornell for obtaining my Bachelor's - not any longer with this.Even I have better security practices and I run windows machines without firewalls or AV software.Over four years without infection!
Common fucking sense FTW.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28465325</id>
	<title>Re:Keeping User Data in a University....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245939060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Especially at an idiotic university like one of the Ivies. Can we please just firebomb them and be done with it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Especially at an idiotic university like one of the Ivies .
Can we please just firebomb them and be done with it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Especially at an idiotic university like one of the Ivies.
Can we please just firebomb them and be done with it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28459829</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28470261</id>
	<title>Re:Social security numbers are worthless</title>
	<author>mpe</author>
	<datestamp>1245960300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>At this point, social security numbers are so widely distributed that the only sensible thing to do is to publish them all in the phone book,</i> <br> <br>The point is they are "identifiers" rather than "authenticators".<br> <br> <i>so no one will be able to pretend they mean anything.</i> <br> <br>You underestimate the abilities of fools. Nothing is likely to stop them believing that a collection of identifiers equates to an authenticator.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At this point , social security numbers are so widely distributed that the only sensible thing to do is to publish them all in the phone book , The point is they are " identifiers " rather than " authenticators " .
so no one will be able to pretend they mean anything .
You underestimate the abilities of fools .
Nothing is likely to stop them believing that a collection of identifiers equates to an authenticator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At this point, social security numbers are so widely distributed that the only sensible thing to do is to publish them all in the phone book,  The point is they are "identifiers" rather than "authenticators".
so no one will be able to pretend they mean anything.
You underestimate the abilities of fools.
Nothing is likely to stop them believing that a collection of identifiers equates to an authenticator.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28459837</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28462589</id>
	<title>I am one of the unfortunate 45,000</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245861960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been reading about similar stuff happening at other places but I didn't think it would occur at Cornell. They are generally pretty good about IT/Security stuff. In any case, the email they sent out links to this FAQ:<br>http://faq-june2009.cuinfo.cornell.edu</p><p>Turns out that it wasn't so much the universities fault as it was the fault of some idiot IT person. An excerpt from the FAQ :</p><p>5. Why was this information on a computer?</p><p>A member of the Cornell technical staff, who is responsible for supporting our central administrative systems, was using these files to correct transmission errors found in the processing of the files. The data was being used for troubleshooting. Cornell's information security policies and guidelines do not allow unencrypted confidential personal data to be stored on any computer device that is not in a physically secured location. This employee's actions, although unintentional, violated our policy and practices.</p><p>At least they are being nice and providing us with a service that will let us monitor our credit history. Great stuff... one more thing to worry about while trying to finish with my dissertation!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been reading about similar stuff happening at other places but I did n't think it would occur at Cornell .
They are generally pretty good about IT/Security stuff .
In any case , the email they sent out links to this FAQ : http : //faq-june2009.cuinfo.cornell.eduTurns out that it was n't so much the universities fault as it was the fault of some idiot IT person .
An excerpt from the FAQ : 5 .
Why was this information on a computer ? A member of the Cornell technical staff , who is responsible for supporting our central administrative systems , was using these files to correct transmission errors found in the processing of the files .
The data was being used for troubleshooting .
Cornell 's information security policies and guidelines do not allow unencrypted confidential personal data to be stored on any computer device that is not in a physically secured location .
This employee 's actions , although unintentional , violated our policy and practices.At least they are being nice and providing us with a service that will let us monitor our credit history .
Great stuff... one more thing to worry about while trying to finish with my dissertation !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been reading about similar stuff happening at other places but I didn't think it would occur at Cornell.
They are generally pretty good about IT/Security stuff.
In any case, the email they sent out links to this FAQ:http://faq-june2009.cuinfo.cornell.eduTurns out that it wasn't so much the universities fault as it was the fault of some idiot IT person.
An excerpt from the FAQ :5.
Why was this information on a computer?A member of the Cornell technical staff, who is responsible for supporting our central administrative systems, was using these files to correct transmission errors found in the processing of the files.
The data was being used for troubleshooting.
Cornell's information security policies and guidelines do not allow unencrypted confidential personal data to be stored on any computer device that is not in a physically secured location.
This employee's actions, although unintentional, violated our policy and practices.At least they are being nice and providing us with a service that will let us monitor our credit history.
Great stuff... one more thing to worry about while trying to finish with my dissertation!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28462733</id>
	<title>alum here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245864060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cornell alum here. They actually disclosed this breach to us yesterday the 23rd. On the bright side, they'll be paying for 'credit monitoring and identity theft restoration services.' Whatever that means...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cornell alum here .
They actually disclosed this breach to us yesterday the 23rd .
On the bright side , they 'll be paying for 'credit monitoring and identity theft restoration services .
' Whatever that means.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cornell alum here.
They actually disclosed this breach to us yesterday the 23rd.
On the bright side, they'll be paying for 'credit monitoring and identity theft restoration services.
' Whatever that means...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28466941</id>
	<title>Re:How much is your personal information worth?</title>
	<author>Leafheart</author>
	<datestamp>1245947760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Answering your question, as long as they are concerned: $0.00.<br> <br>

So, 0 * 45,000 = $0.00</htmltext>
<tokenext>Answering your question , as long as they are concerned : $ 0.00 .
So , 0 * 45,000 = $ 0.00</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Answering your question, as long as they are concerned: $0.00.
So, 0 * 45,000 = $0.00</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460065</id>
	<title>Troubleshooting?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245844140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>WTF do you need the actual data for?  You don't know that a SSN is 9 numbers and possibly 2 dashes?  Why do you need actual data on a computer that can be stolen?</htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF do you need the actual data for ?
You do n't know that a SSN is 9 numbers and possibly 2 dashes ?
Why do you need actual data on a computer that can be stolen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF do you need the actual data for?
You don't know that a SSN is 9 numbers and possibly 2 dashes?
Why do you need actual data on a computer that can be stolen?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28459837</id>
	<title>Social security numbers are worthless</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245842880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>At this point, social security numbers are so widely distributed that the only sensible thing to do is to publish them all in the phone book, so no one will be able to pretend they mean anything. If a scammer wants to use someone else's identity to defraud a bank, then the black market will sell them cheap and in bulk. The real problem is that creditors are allowed to issue debts without attempting to contact the person whose name they're using, and then try to collect those debts when the scammer runs off with the money.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At this point , social security numbers are so widely distributed that the only sensible thing to do is to publish them all in the phone book , so no one will be able to pretend they mean anything .
If a scammer wants to use someone else 's identity to defraud a bank , then the black market will sell them cheap and in bulk .
The real problem is that creditors are allowed to issue debts without attempting to contact the person whose name they 're using , and then try to collect those debts when the scammer runs off with the money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At this point, social security numbers are so widely distributed that the only sensible thing to do is to publish them all in the phone book, so no one will be able to pretend they mean anything.
If a scammer wants to use someone else's identity to defraud a bank, then the black market will sell them cheap and in bulk.
The real problem is that creditors are allowed to issue debts without attempting to contact the person whose name they're using, and then try to collect those debts when the scammer runs off with the money.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28463055</id>
	<title>Re:Keeping User Data in a University....</title>
	<author>hairyfeet</author>
	<datestamp>1245867660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It isn't just universities. One Sunday I'm relaxing with a smoke after having to come into class to help those behind when I get a call "Where yo at?" I'm at class, just got done. Why? "You ain't gonna believe this shit. I'm about 10 blocks north of you. You got your truck?" yep, what else would I drive? "Good. Get over here NOW"</p><p>So I get over there to where Chuck works at and the Teleco next door has put out a ton of 1.5-3Ghz boxes out on the curb. Being a nice Sunday and I don't mind a little exercise for some free parts I helped Chuck load them up, in return for picking a couple of the nicer ones for me of course. We get them to his place, unload them and I say "let's fire them up to see if any has an OS or if they have been stripped. Now not only do these boxes still have the nice little XP Pro OEM stickers on them, but the OS is STILL installed and they didn't bother deleting squat. Accounts, CC numbers, the whole nine yards was just sitting their unencrypted on the drives. Most didn't even need a username to log on. Lucky for them we just wanted the PCs and not the data or we could have had ourselves an ID theft field day.</p><p>

So it isn't just the schools. Over the years you'd be surprised how many "throw aways" I've ended up with that had major data on them. CC numbers, bank accounts, just stupid the amount of data they leave. I'm frankly shocked that MORE data theft hasn't occurred than what we have seen. I guess a lot of the guys are like me and just want a free PC and wipe the suckers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is n't just universities .
One Sunday I 'm relaxing with a smoke after having to come into class to help those behind when I get a call " Where yo at ?
" I 'm at class , just got done .
Why ? " You ai n't gon na believe this shit .
I 'm about 10 blocks north of you .
You got your truck ?
" yep , what else would I drive ?
" Good. Get over here NOW " So I get over there to where Chuck works at and the Teleco next door has put out a ton of 1.5-3Ghz boxes out on the curb .
Being a nice Sunday and I do n't mind a little exercise for some free parts I helped Chuck load them up , in return for picking a couple of the nicer ones for me of course .
We get them to his place , unload them and I say " let 's fire them up to see if any has an OS or if they have been stripped .
Now not only do these boxes still have the nice little XP Pro OEM stickers on them , but the OS is STILL installed and they did n't bother deleting squat .
Accounts , CC numbers , the whole nine yards was just sitting their unencrypted on the drives .
Most did n't even need a username to log on .
Lucky for them we just wanted the PCs and not the data or we could have had ourselves an ID theft field day .
So it is n't just the schools .
Over the years you 'd be surprised how many " throw aways " I 've ended up with that had major data on them .
CC numbers , bank accounts , just stupid the amount of data they leave .
I 'm frankly shocked that MORE data theft has n't occurred than what we have seen .
I guess a lot of the guys are like me and just want a free PC and wipe the suckers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It isn't just universities.
One Sunday I'm relaxing with a smoke after having to come into class to help those behind when I get a call "Where yo at?
" I'm at class, just got done.
Why? "You ain't gonna believe this shit.
I'm about 10 blocks north of you.
You got your truck?
" yep, what else would I drive?
"Good. Get over here NOW"So I get over there to where Chuck works at and the Teleco next door has put out a ton of 1.5-3Ghz boxes out on the curb.
Being a nice Sunday and I don't mind a little exercise for some free parts I helped Chuck load them up, in return for picking a couple of the nicer ones for me of course.
We get them to his place, unload them and I say "let's fire them up to see if any has an OS or if they have been stripped.
Now not only do these boxes still have the nice little XP Pro OEM stickers on them, but the OS is STILL installed and they didn't bother deleting squat.
Accounts, CC numbers, the whole nine yards was just sitting their unencrypted on the drives.
Most didn't even need a username to log on.
Lucky for them we just wanted the PCs and not the data or we could have had ourselves an ID theft field day.
So it isn't just the schools.
Over the years you'd be surprised how many "throw aways" I've ended up with that had major data on them.
CC numbers, bank accounts, just stupid the amount of data they leave.
I'm frankly shocked that MORE data theft hasn't occurred than what we have seen.
I guess a lot of the guys are like me and just want a free PC and wipe the suckers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28459867</id>
	<title>from Ivy League to Bush League</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245843060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow.. social security numbers.. on PERSONAL COMPUTERS!!!!   Outrageous.  What that data is doing on anything but computers locked behind doors in a data center is beyond comprehension.</p><p>Cornell has dropped out of the Ivy league and entered the bush league.</p><p>hosers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow.. social security numbers.. on PERSONAL COMPUTERS ! ! ! !
Outrageous. What that data is doing on anything but computers locked behind doors in a data center is beyond comprehension.Cornell has dropped out of the Ivy league and entered the bush league.hosers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.. social security numbers.. on PERSONAL COMPUTERS!!!!
Outrageous.  What that data is doing on anything but computers locked behind doors in a data center is beyond comprehension.Cornell has dropped out of the Ivy league and entered the bush league.hosers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460163</id>
	<title>Cornell - Ever heard of it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245844620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Andy Bernard is going to be upset.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Andy Bernard is going to be upset .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Andy Bernard is going to be upset.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460559</id>
	<title>Re:Social security numbers are worthless</title>
	<author>zizinya</author>
	<datestamp>1245846360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's not much that can actually be done with an SSN and nothing more. A potential id thief needs a lot more to work with in order to acually do some real damage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's not much that can actually be done with an SSN and nothing more .
A potential id thief needs a lot more to work with in order to acually do some real damage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's not much that can actually be done with an SSN and nothing more.
A potential id thief needs a lot more to work with in order to acually do some real damage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28460779</id>
	<title>someone forgot to run Spider</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245847620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You'd think, the university that created the Cornell Spider  -- http://www2.cit.cornell.edu/security/tools/ -- Would be more diligent to push that out on all their machines. But I work in the *real* world and know all about theory and practice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'd think , the university that created the Cornell Spider -- http : //www2.cit.cornell.edu/security/tools/ -- Would be more diligent to push that out on all their machines .
But I work in the * real * world and know all about theory and practice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'd think, the university that created the Cornell Spider  -- http://www2.cit.cornell.edu/security/tools/ -- Would be more diligent to push that out on all their machines.
But I work in the *real* world and know all about theory and practice.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28470389</id>
	<title>Re:Troubleshooting?</title>
	<author>mpe</author>
	<datestamp>1245960780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>WTF do you need the actual data for? You don't know that a SSN is 9 numbers and possibly 2 dashes? Why do you need actual data on a computer that can be stolen?</i> <br> <br>It appears to quite often be the case with such "breaches" that there wasn't an especially good reason to be storing said data <b>at all</b>. However without data protection laws which are strongly enforced there is little incentive to store and process only data which is actually needed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF do you need the actual data for ?
You do n't know that a SSN is 9 numbers and possibly 2 dashes ?
Why do you need actual data on a computer that can be stolen ?
It appears to quite often be the case with such " breaches " that there was n't an especially good reason to be storing said data at all .
However without data protection laws which are strongly enforced there is little incentive to store and process only data which is actually needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF do you need the actual data for?
You don't know that a SSN is 9 numbers and possibly 2 dashes?
Why do you need actual data on a computer that can be stolen?
It appears to quite often be the case with such "breaches" that there wasn't an especially good reason to be storing said data at all.
However without data protection laws which are strongly enforced there is little incentive to store and process only data which is actually needed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28461075</id>
	<title>Security</title>
	<author>kbsoftware</author>
	<datestamp>1245849720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So the moral of the story is if you are looking to educate yourself on security and common sense then Cornell is not where you want to go among other places.

It always amazes me it seems to take a few hundred breaches before common sense sings in and simply things like encryption and basic security measures are used.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So the moral of the story is if you are looking to educate yourself on security and common sense then Cornell is not where you want to go among other places .
It always amazes me it seems to take a few hundred breaches before common sense sings in and simply things like encryption and basic security measures are used .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the moral of the story is if you are looking to educate yourself on security and common sense then Cornell is not where you want to go among other places.
It always amazes me it seems to take a few hundred breaches before common sense sings in and simply things like encryption and basic security measures are used.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28466131</id>
	<title>Isnt cornell....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245943560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't Cornell....supposed to be one of the biggest and brightest Universities to be out there...they cant afford a good admin with stronger group policies on the network?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't Cornell....supposed to be one of the biggest and brightest Universities to be out there...they cant afford a good admin with stronger group policies on the network ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't Cornell....supposed to be one of the biggest and brightest Universities to be out there...they cant afford a good admin with stronger group policies on the network?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28461755</id>
	<title>Re:Social security numbers are worthless</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245855240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think in some states, people can do a credit freeze for free, or for a fee. Like, I think in Washington state, it's like $10 to freeze, $10 to unfreeze, which should prevent people from opening up bank accounts, credit cards, etc., I think.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think in some states , people can do a credit freeze for free , or for a fee .
Like , I think in Washington state , it 's like $ 10 to freeze , $ 10 to unfreeze , which should prevent people from opening up bank accounts , credit cards , etc. , I think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think in some states, people can do a credit freeze for free, or for a fee.
Like, I think in Washington state, it's like $10 to freeze, $10 to unfreeze, which should prevent people from opening up bank accounts, credit cards, etc., I think.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28464881</id>
	<title>At least they admit it....</title>
	<author>Bob\_Who</author>
	<datestamp>1245935580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everyone else that stores and shares your personal data are too inept to notice their blunders, or won't dare admit it unless they absolutely must.  Its best to assume there is no such thing as secure information once you share it with others.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone else that stores and shares your personal data are too inept to notice their blunders , or wo n't dare admit it unless they absolutely must .
Its best to assume there is no such thing as secure information once you share it with others .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone else that stores and shares your personal data are too inept to notice their blunders, or won't dare admit it unless they absolutely must.
Its best to assume there is no such thing as secure information once you share it with others.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_24_2129216.28466515</id>
	<title>CIT sucks, not Cornell</title>
	<author>tangentreality</author>
	<datestamp>1245945480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was one of the 45,000.  And although I agree that CIT is one of the most incompetent IT staffs I have ever come into contact with, keep in mind that CIT's actions do not necessarily reflect the knowledge of the general student body.  I know plenty of freshmen who know more about computers than the CIT staff.  It's frustrating when you call the IT department and then YOU have to explain to THEM how to fix the problem you're having with your internet connection.<br> <br>

So for all of you bashing Cornell: going to Cornell won't mean that you learn less about computers and security because of the IT staff being dumb.  Knowledge of IT staff does not equal quality of classes when the selection process for hiring those staff members is as bad as it is.  On top of that, most of the people who should be IT staff don't want to be.  And at any school you'll have problems with the administration or the staff being incompetent in some way, that's just how it works.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was one of the 45,000 .
And although I agree that CIT is one of the most incompetent IT staffs I have ever come into contact with , keep in mind that CIT 's actions do not necessarily reflect the knowledge of the general student body .
I know plenty of freshmen who know more about computers than the CIT staff .
It 's frustrating when you call the IT department and then YOU have to explain to THEM how to fix the problem you 're having with your internet connection .
So for all of you bashing Cornell : going to Cornell wo n't mean that you learn less about computers and security because of the IT staff being dumb .
Knowledge of IT staff does not equal quality of classes when the selection process for hiring those staff members is as bad as it is .
On top of that , most of the people who should be IT staff do n't want to be .
And at any school you 'll have problems with the administration or the staff being incompetent in some way , that 's just how it works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was one of the 45,000.
And although I agree that CIT is one of the most incompetent IT staffs I have ever come into contact with, keep in mind that CIT's actions do not necessarily reflect the knowledge of the general student body.
I know plenty of freshmen who know more about computers than the CIT staff.
It's frustrating when you call the IT department and then YOU have to explain to THEM how to fix the problem you're having with your internet connection.
So for all of you bashing Cornell: going to Cornell won't mean that you learn less about computers and security because of the IT staff being dumb.
Knowledge of IT staff does not equal quality of classes when the selection process for hiring those staff members is as bad as it is.
On top of that, most of the people who should be IT staff don't want to be.
And at any school you'll have problems with the administration or the staff being incompetent in some way, that's just how it works.</sentencetext>
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