<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_23_1652251</id>
	<title>Norwegian Lawyers Must Stop Chasing File Sharers</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1245778860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Skapare sends word from TorrentFreak that Norway's Simonsen law firm has <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-lawyers-loses-license-to-chase-pirates-090622/">lost their license to pursue file sharers</a>. <i>"Just days after Norway's data protection department told ISPs they must delete all personal IP address-related data three weeks after collection, it's now become safer than ever to be a file-sharer in Norway. The only law firm with a license to track pirates has just seen it expire and it won't be renewed."</i> Skapare adds, "Sounds like Norway's government treats privacy seriously. Maybe they've been watching the abuses in the USA. More info on the Norwegian perspective in this <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&amp;prev=\_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.dagbladet.no\%2F2009\%2F06\%2F22\%2Fkultur\%2Ffildeling\%2Fespen\_tondel\%2F6846241\%2F&amp;sl=no&amp;tl=en&amp;history\_state0=">Google translation from Dagbladet.no</a>."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Skapare sends word from TorrentFreak that Norway 's Simonsen law firm has lost their license to pursue file sharers .
" Just days after Norway 's data protection department told ISPs they must delete all personal IP address-related data three weeks after collection , it 's now become safer than ever to be a file-sharer in Norway .
The only law firm with a license to track pirates has just seen it expire and it wo n't be renewed .
" Skapare adds , " Sounds like Norway 's government treats privacy seriously .
Maybe they 've been watching the abuses in the USA .
More info on the Norwegian perspective in this Google translation from Dagbladet.no .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Skapare sends word from TorrentFreak that Norway's Simonsen law firm has lost their license to pursue file sharers.
"Just days after Norway's data protection department told ISPs they must delete all personal IP address-related data three weeks after collection, it's now become safer than ever to be a file-sharer in Norway.
The only law firm with a license to track pirates has just seen it expire and it won't be renewed.
" Skapare adds, "Sounds like Norway's government treats privacy seriously.
Maybe they've been watching the abuses in the USA.
More info on the Norwegian perspective in this Google translation from Dagbladet.no.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443005</id>
	<title>One third right...</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1245786900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And Germany.  And...?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And Germany .
And... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And Germany.
And...?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441735</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28450645</id>
	<title>Re:What "abuses?"</title>
	<author>vivaelamor</author>
	<datestamp>1245842820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Slashdot and its readers all said that content owners should go after individual infringers back in 2000 when Napster was getting sued. What's changed?</p></div><p>That's an easy one, I wasn't reading Slashdot in 2000. Go find a time machine so you can troll somewhere more relevant.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot and its readers all said that content owners should go after individual infringers back in 2000 when Napster was getting sued .
What 's changed ? That 's an easy one , I was n't reading Slashdot in 2000 .
Go find a time machine so you can troll somewhere more relevant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot and its readers all said that content owners should go after individual infringers back in 2000 when Napster was getting sued.
What's changed?That's an easy one, I wasn't reading Slashdot in 2000.
Go find a time machine so you can troll somewhere more relevant.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442131</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443845</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>IrquiM</author>
	<datestamp>1245789780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Regarding #3... it's number 5 in the latest "poll"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Regarding # 3... it 's number 5 in the latest " poll " : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regarding #3... it's number 5 in the latest "poll" :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442341</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28444133</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>IrquiM</author>
	<datestamp>1245790680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, there was mainly one person burning down the churches, and he is, as far as I know, still in prison.</p><p>And most death metal bastards aren't that scary. Trust me - they're more scared of you then you are of them!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , there was mainly one person burning down the churches , and he is , as far as I know , still in prison.And most death metal bastards are n't that scary .
Trust me - they 're more scared of you then you are of them !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, there was mainly one person burning down the churches, and he is, as far as I know, still in prison.And most death metal bastards aren't that scary.
Trust me - they're more scared of you then you are of them!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443441</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443451</id>
	<title>Re:This is not over yet...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245788460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>He was then heard to exclaim,
<br> <br>
"I'm the greatest pirate hunter in the world!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>He was then heard to exclaim , " I 'm the greatest pirate hunter in the world !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He was then heard to exclaim,
 
"I'm the greatest pirate hunter in the world!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441781</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442047</id>
	<title>Re:This is not over yet...</title>
	<author>verbalcontract</author>
	<datestamp>1245783600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Pirate-hunters" -- you are speaking of course about their age-old enemies, the ninjas?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Pirate-hunters " -- you are speaking of course about their age-old enemies , the ninjas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Pirate-hunters" -- you are speaking of course about their age-old enemies, the ninjas?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441781</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442341</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>TheMaister</author>
	<datestamp>1245784560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Soso. Opera's doing very nicely these days at least.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p Also, I think we're a leading force in micro/nano technology.</p><p>2. Norwegian is kinda hard to learn as you can't learn it well by studying alone. It has so many ways of expressing yourself that wouldn't make any sense in eg. English. I guess it's the same for most languages, but Norwegian is considered a hard language to learn because of all the irregularites. Something we learn in school is "EVERY rule has an (many) exceptions."<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p English and Norwegian is in the same language familiy though (Germanic). But hey, what do I know about learning Norwegian from scratch, as I'm a native speaker<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p </p><p>3. Expensive, in fact, VERY expensive, but the wages are pretty good (even if you don't have a high class job, you can still earn a lot), so I guess it evens out. Just avoid Oslo, as it's the #2 (or #1?) most expensive city in the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Soso. Opera 's doing very nicely these days at least .
: p Also , I think we 're a leading force in micro/nano technology.2 .
Norwegian is kinda hard to learn as you ca n't learn it well by studying alone .
It has so many ways of expressing yourself that would n't make any sense in eg .
English. I guess it 's the same for most languages , but Norwegian is considered a hard language to learn because of all the irregularites .
Something we learn in school is " EVERY rule has an ( many ) exceptions .
" : p English and Norwegian is in the same language familiy though ( Germanic ) .
But hey , what do I know about learning Norwegian from scratch , as I 'm a native speaker : p 3 .
Expensive , in fact , VERY expensive , but the wages are pretty good ( even if you do n't have a high class job , you can still earn a lot ) , so I guess it evens out .
Just avoid Oslo , as it 's the # 2 ( or # 1 ?
) most expensive city in the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Soso. Opera's doing very nicely these days at least.
:p Also, I think we're a leading force in micro/nano technology.2.
Norwegian is kinda hard to learn as you can't learn it well by studying alone.
It has so many ways of expressing yourself that wouldn't make any sense in eg.
English. I guess it's the same for most languages, but Norwegian is considered a hard language to learn because of all the irregularites.
Something we learn in school is "EVERY rule has an (many) exceptions.
" :p English and Norwegian is in the same language familiy though (Germanic).
But hey, what do I know about learning Norwegian from scratch, as I'm a native speaker :p 3.
Expensive, in fact, VERY expensive, but the wages are pretty good (even if you don't have a high class job, you can still earn a lot), so I guess it evens out.
Just avoid Oslo, as it's the #2 (or #1?
) most expensive city in the world.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441921</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28445595</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>teh kurisu</author>
	<datestamp>1245752640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd say you probably could learn passable Norwegian by studying alone.  To be fluent in any language you've really got to surround yourself with native speakers.  I think what makes Norwegian difficult is the diversity of dialects - a learner that could get by in Oslo might struggle in for example &Aring;lesund.</p><p>English doesn't really have that problem as it's fairly standardised worldwide, although there's a bit of variation in the UK and Ireland.  The problem with English is the sheer size of the vocabulary and the writing system that bears only a passing relation to the sounds that the words make.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say you probably could learn passable Norwegian by studying alone .
To be fluent in any language you 've really got to surround yourself with native speakers .
I think what makes Norwegian difficult is the diversity of dialects - a learner that could get by in Oslo might struggle in for example   lesund.English does n't really have that problem as it 's fairly standardised worldwide , although there 's a bit of variation in the UK and Ireland .
The problem with English is the sheer size of the vocabulary and the writing system that bears only a passing relation to the sounds that the words make .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say you probably could learn passable Norwegian by studying alone.
To be fluent in any language you've really got to surround yourself with native speakers.
I think what makes Norwegian difficult is the diversity of dialects - a learner that could get by in Oslo might struggle in for example Ålesund.English doesn't really have that problem as it's fairly standardised worldwide, although there's a bit of variation in the UK and Ireland.
The problem with English is the sheer size of the vocabulary and the writing system that bears only a passing relation to the sounds that the words make.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442341</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443441</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>ubercam</author>
	<datestamp>1245788460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We're just, well, sensible.</p></div><p>I'm assuming you mean "we" as in everyone except all those crazy death metal bastards who burn down churches, right? Those guys are SCARY. Fucked up shit happens everywhere... Norway is no exception.</p><p>Full disclosure: I'm Canadian, and I think we're fairly sensible most of the time too, but then you hear about the white supremacist parents drawing swastikas on their kids, the revolving-door youth "justice" system, the bus beheader, the deadbeat drunk who left his young daughters outside to freeze to death in -40 C in nothing but diapers, Karla Homolka &amp; Paul Bernardo, Robert Pickton, the Mayerthorpe Massacre... the list goes on and on and on...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're just , well , sensible.I 'm assuming you mean " we " as in everyone except all those crazy death metal bastards who burn down churches , right ?
Those guys are SCARY .
Fucked up shit happens everywhere... Norway is no exception.Full disclosure : I 'm Canadian , and I think we 're fairly sensible most of the time too , but then you hear about the white supremacist parents drawing swastikas on their kids , the revolving-door youth " justice " system , the bus beheader , the deadbeat drunk who left his young daughters outside to freeze to death in -40 C in nothing but diapers , Karla Homolka &amp; Paul Bernardo , Robert Pickton , the Mayerthorpe Massacre... the list goes on and on and on.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're just, well, sensible.I'm assuming you mean "we" as in everyone except all those crazy death metal bastards who burn down churches, right?
Those guys are SCARY.
Fucked up shit happens everywhere... Norway is no exception.Full disclosure: I'm Canadian, and I think we're fairly sensible most of the time too, but then you hear about the white supremacist parents drawing swastikas on their kids, the revolving-door youth "justice" system, the bus beheader, the deadbeat drunk who left his young daughters outside to freeze to death in -40 C in nothing but diapers, Karla Homolka &amp; Paul Bernardo, Robert Pickton, the Mayerthorpe Massacre... the list goes on and on and on...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442539</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441787</id>
	<title>My reaction</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245782760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got Norwegian wood.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got Norwegian wood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got Norwegian wood.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442053</id>
	<title>Election year</title>
	<author>Ost99</author>
	<datestamp>1245783600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't expect this to be the last word on the matter, the politicians just don't want to rock the boat right now.</p><p>The Minister of culture has openly supported the vigilante tactics of the "pirate-hunters", but this is probably not the right time of the 4-year election cycle to do anything drastic.<br>During the last election the same man promised to re-legalese file sharing. The statement was retracted only days after a surprising high turnout of young voters won him and his party the election...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't expect this to be the last word on the matter , the politicians just do n't want to rock the boat right now.The Minister of culture has openly supported the vigilante tactics of the " pirate-hunters " , but this is probably not the right time of the 4-year election cycle to do anything drastic.During the last election the same man promised to re-legalese file sharing .
The statement was retracted only days after a surprising high turnout of young voters won him and his party the election.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't expect this to be the last word on the matter, the politicians just don't want to rock the boat right now.The Minister of culture has openly supported the vigilante tactics of the "pirate-hunters", but this is probably not the right time of the 4-year election cycle to do anything drastic.During the last election the same man promised to re-legalese file sharing.
The statement was retracted only days after a surprising high turnout of young voters won him and his party the election...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443225</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>ketilwaa</author>
	<datestamp>1245787620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Taxes; it's 25\% VAT IIRC</p></div><p>

Partly correct. It's usually that, but 14\% on food that you take away. (Meant for making groceries cheaper, but actually also applies to take away food and coffee.) Cultural things (like going to the movies) are 8\%.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Taxes ; it 's 25 \ % VAT IIRC Partly correct .
It 's usually that , but 14 \ % on food that you take away .
( Meant for making groceries cheaper , but actually also applies to take away food and coffee .
) Cultural things ( like going to the movies ) are 8 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Taxes; it's 25\% VAT IIRC

Partly correct.
It's usually that, but 14\% on food that you take away.
(Meant for making groceries cheaper, but actually also applies to take away food and coffee.
) Cultural things (like going to the movies) are 8\%.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442849</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28451291</id>
	<title>offtopic</title>
	<author>Biotech9</author>
	<datestamp>1245851520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been living in Sweden for 5 years (originally Irish) and am starting to plan a move to Berlin. Any tips on how to handle a move to Germany, or things to be prepared for?</p><p>(I've heard the job situation is not great, but I work in science and find it's generally unaffected as of yet by the economic situation).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been living in Sweden for 5 years ( originally Irish ) and am starting to plan a move to Berlin .
Any tips on how to handle a move to Germany , or things to be prepared for ?
( I 've heard the job situation is not great , but I work in science and find it 's generally unaffected as of yet by the economic situation ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been living in Sweden for 5 years (originally Irish) and am starting to plan a move to Berlin.
Any tips on how to handle a move to Germany, or things to be prepared for?
(I've heard the job situation is not great, but I work in science and find it's generally unaffected as of yet by the economic situation).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28444865</id>
	<title>Yeah right</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1245749940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are you smoking?</p><p>They have passed directives which require all ISP's in all countries TO LOG IP destinations and protocol of ALL their users. And that's one example.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you smoking ? They have passed directives which require all ISP 's in all countries TO LOG IP destinations and protocol of ALL their users .
And that 's one example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you smoking?They have passed directives which require all ISP's in all countries TO LOG IP destinations and protocol of ALL their users.
And that's one example.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441735</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441727</id>
	<title>Hopefully they aren't storing this on a Linux box</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245782580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linux just isn't ready for the desktop yet. It may be ready for the web servers that you nerds use to distribute your TRON fanzines and personal Dungeons and Dragons web-sights across the world wide web, but the average computer user isn't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check their mail with, especially not when they already have a Windows machine that does its job perfectly well and is backed by a major corporation, as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few unemployed nerds living in their mother's basement somewhere. The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf (haha) providing me my OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux just is n't ready for the desktop yet .
It may be ready for the web servers that you nerds use to distribute your TRON fanzines and personal Dungeons and Dragons web-sights across the world wide web , but the average computer user is n't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check their mail with , especially not when they already have a Windows machine that does its job perfectly well and is backed by a major corporation , as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few unemployed nerds living in their mother 's basement somewhere .
The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf ( haha ) providing me my OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux just isn't ready for the desktop yet.
It may be ready for the web servers that you nerds use to distribute your TRON fanzines and personal Dungeons and Dragons web-sights across the world wide web, but the average computer user isn't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check their mail with, especially not when they already have a Windows machine that does its job perfectly well and is backed by a major corporation, as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few unemployed nerds living in their mother's basement somewhere.
The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf (haha) providing me my OS.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441921</id>
	<title>So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245783180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've a few questions.</p><p>1. What's the tech economy like over there?<br>2. How long does it take to learn your language OR how English friendly is it?<br>3. What's the average cost of living in your cities?</p><p>Thanks in advance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've a few questions.1 .
What 's the tech economy like over there ? 2 .
How long does it take to learn your language OR how English friendly is it ? 3 .
What 's the average cost of living in your cities ? Thanks in advance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've a few questions.1.
What's the tech economy like over there?2.
How long does it take to learn your language OR how English friendly is it?3.
What's the average cost of living in your cities?Thanks in advance.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28450689</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245843540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>There really was childporn there.</p></div></blockquote><p>Then why don't they do something about it? No, censoring doesn't count as doing something.</p><p>A few weeks ago, we had the discussion about Germany wanting a similar filter. One of the people against it - who was a victim himself - noted that the Norwegian list has several German servers. Presumably, the German list will have just as many Norwegian servers.</p><p>These lists are becoming a way for countries to cover each others backs. Everyone is filtering the everyone else's kiddie porn servers, so they don't need to do anything about the servers in their own back yard.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There really was childporn there.Then why do n't they do something about it ?
No , censoring does n't count as doing something.A few weeks ago , we had the discussion about Germany wanting a similar filter .
One of the people against it - who was a victim himself - noted that the Norwegian list has several German servers .
Presumably , the German list will have just as many Norwegian servers.These lists are becoming a way for countries to cover each others backs .
Everyone is filtering the everyone else 's kiddie porn servers , so they do n't need to do anything about the servers in their own back yard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There really was childporn there.Then why don't they do something about it?
No, censoring doesn't count as doing something.A few weeks ago, we had the discussion about Germany wanting a similar filter.
One of the people against it - who was a victim himself - noted that the Norwegian list has several German servers.
Presumably, the German list will have just as many Norwegian servers.These lists are becoming a way for countries to cover each others backs.
Everyone is filtering the everyone else's kiddie porn servers, so they don't need to do anything about the servers in their own back yard.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28444503</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>RPoet</author>
	<datestamp>1245748800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mention the censorship filter (which even the universities and colleges subscribe to). You didn't mention that fictional writings depicting people described as minors having sex, is illegal. So are drawings of such, and animation. We also just barely escaped legislation against saying or writing criticism against organised religion. Our Prime Minister of many years was an ordained priest, placing us in league with Iran. When a person is born in Norway, he is automatically a member of our protestant state church by default, and you have to opt-out later if you find that offensive. Our state-controlled oil company is heavily involved in horrifically harmful oil sands projects in Canada. Broadband development is held back by prior state monopolies. Our politicians are corrupted by special interest groups and our lazy media routinely let them get away with blatantly abusing their powers for personal gain.</p><p>I resent claims that we are "just sensible".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mention the censorship filter ( which even the universities and colleges subscribe to ) .
You did n't mention that fictional writings depicting people described as minors having sex , is illegal .
So are drawings of such , and animation .
We also just barely escaped legislation against saying or writing criticism against organised religion .
Our Prime Minister of many years was an ordained priest , placing us in league with Iran .
When a person is born in Norway , he is automatically a member of our protestant state church by default , and you have to opt-out later if you find that offensive .
Our state-controlled oil company is heavily involved in horrifically harmful oil sands projects in Canada .
Broadband development is held back by prior state monopolies .
Our politicians are corrupted by special interest groups and our lazy media routinely let them get away with blatantly abusing their powers for personal gain.I resent claims that we are " just sensible " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mention the censorship filter (which even the universities and colleges subscribe to).
You didn't mention that fictional writings depicting people described as minors having sex, is illegal.
So are drawings of such, and animation.
We also just barely escaped legislation against saying or writing criticism against organised religion.
Our Prime Minister of many years was an ordained priest, placing us in league with Iran.
When a person is born in Norway, he is automatically a member of our protestant state church by default, and you have to opt-out later if you find that offensive.
Our state-controlled oil company is heavily involved in horrifically harmful oil sands projects in Canada.
Broadband development is held back by prior state monopolies.
Our politicians are corrupted by special interest groups and our lazy media routinely let them get away with blatantly abusing their powers for personal gain.I resent claims that we are "just sensible".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28444483</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>Cross-Threaded</author>
	<datestamp>1245748680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to take anything away from what you said but I think you meant -40 F.<br>.<br>In all seriousness, there are some seriously fucked-up people in this world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to take anything away from what you said but I think you meant -40 F..In all seriousness , there are some seriously fucked-up people in this world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to take anything away from what you said but I think you meant -40 F..In all seriousness, there are some seriously fucked-up people in this world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443293</id>
	<title>Re:Half-right...</title>
	<author>dk90406</author>
	<datestamp>1245787860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>True. Privacy has higher priority in many European countries, but the fact the Norway can clear the logs after three weeks, are a consequence of the *not* being members of EU. EU has issued data retention rules of one year. Some countries (like Denmark) has implemented the directive, others haven't yet.<br>
All in the name of war against terror, of course.</htmltext>
<tokenext>True .
Privacy has higher priority in many European countries , but the fact the Norway can clear the logs after three weeks , are a consequence of the * not * being members of EU .
EU has issued data retention rules of one year .
Some countries ( like Denmark ) has implemented the directive , others have n't yet .
All in the name of war against terror , of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True.
Privacy has higher priority in many European countries, but the fact the Norway can clear the logs after three weeks, are a consequence of the *not* being members of EU.
EU has issued data retention rules of one year.
Some countries (like Denmark) has implemented the directive, others haven't yet.
All in the name of war against terror, of course.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442489</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245785100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Major companies work in English.  English is a required language in all schools now, so only the older people and the language challenged can't speak it in some way.  But, Norwegian isn't so hard to learn.  Lots of words shorter than English<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "light and sound" is "lys og lyd"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "USB memory stick" is "USB minne pinne"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "lightning and thunder" is "lyn og torden".  And "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkJf0md1kG8" title="youtube.com">FAEN</a> [youtube.com]" is the universal curse word.
</p><p>Cost of living in the Oslo area is very high (you might want to try Trondheim if you like the cold or Bergen if you like the rain).  Taxes are high.  Health care is socialized.</p><p>Lots of tunnels to drive around in.  The longer ones even have a rest stop or two inside.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Major companies work in English .
English is a required language in all schools now , so only the older people and the language challenged ca n't speak it in some way .
But , Norwegian is n't so hard to learn .
Lots of words shorter than English ... " light and sound " is " lys og lyd " ... " USB memory stick " is " USB minne pinne " ... " lightning and thunder " is " lyn og torden " .
And " FAEN [ youtube.com ] " is the universal curse word .
Cost of living in the Oslo area is very high ( you might want to try Trondheim if you like the cold or Bergen if you like the rain ) .
Taxes are high .
Health care is socialized.Lots of tunnels to drive around in .
The longer ones even have a rest stop or two inside .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Major companies work in English.
English is a required language in all schools now, so only the older people and the language challenged can't speak it in some way.
But, Norwegian isn't so hard to learn.
Lots of words shorter than English ... "light and sound" is "lys og lyd" ... "USB memory stick" is "USB minne pinne" ... "lightning and thunder" is "lyn og torden".
And "FAEN [youtube.com]" is the universal curse word.
Cost of living in the Oslo area is very high (you might want to try Trondheim if you like the cold or Bergen if you like the rain).
Taxes are high.
Health care is socialized.Lots of tunnels to drive around in.
The longer ones even have a rest stop or two inside.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28451551</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>orzetto</author>
	<datestamp>1245853500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If norwegian is your first langauge outside english, I'd call it optimistic to understand swedish and danish as well.</p></div></blockquote><p>I stand my ground and aim higher: Norwegian and Swedish are pretty much the same language, with some quaint words on either side to mark the difference. Norwegians and Swedes always speak each their own language when talking to each other, and I never heard anyone having problems with that.</p><p>As for Danish, sometimes I read Danish and realise it is not Norwegian only after a few lines. Danish pronunciation is however much more difficult.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If norwegian is your first langauge outside english , I 'd call it optimistic to understand swedish and danish as well.I stand my ground and aim higher : Norwegian and Swedish are pretty much the same language , with some quaint words on either side to mark the difference .
Norwegians and Swedes always speak each their own language when talking to each other , and I never heard anyone having problems with that.As for Danish , sometimes I read Danish and realise it is not Norwegian only after a few lines .
Danish pronunciation is however much more difficult .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If norwegian is your first langauge outside english, I'd call it optimistic to understand swedish and danish as well.I stand my ground and aim higher: Norwegian and Swedish are pretty much the same language, with some quaint words on either side to mark the difference.
Norwegians and Swedes always speak each their own language when talking to each other, and I never heard anyone having problems with that.As for Danish, sometimes I read Danish and realise it is not Norwegian only after a few lines.
Danish pronunciation is however much more difficult.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28447015</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245759180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think parent is a liar. I also downloaded the list and went through a lot more than a few sites. I did not find a single site which contained child pornography.</p><p>I did find a few child modeling sites, a handful of extremely graphic anti abortion sites, and a WHOLE lot of gay porn sites.</p><p>That list is wacked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think parent is a liar .
I also downloaded the list and went through a lot more than a few sites .
I did not find a single site which contained child pornography.I did find a few child modeling sites , a handful of extremely graphic anti abortion sites , and a WHOLE lot of gay porn sites.That list is wacked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think parent is a liar.
I also downloaded the list and went through a lot more than a few sites.
I did not find a single site which contained child pornography.I did find a few child modeling sites, a handful of extremely graphic anti abortion sites, and a WHOLE lot of gay porn sites.That list is wacked.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442849</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>orzetto</author>
	<datestamp>1245786360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not Norwegian myself, though lived there 7 years. Possibly moving back in the near future.</p><ol>
<li>1. Pretty good I would say. The country has had budget surplus for years and is not feeling the effects of the crisis as bad as e.g. Iceland. Estate prices actually <a href="http://www.vg.no/dinepenger/artikkel.php?artid=543682" title="www.vg.no">went up 4\% first quarter</a> [www.vg.no] (most Norwegians do own their home, so it's a good indicator).</li><li>2. Norwegian is not as difficult as German but not as easy as French, many words are not guessable. Main difficulty is that everybody speaks very good English and practising Norwegian is quite difficult if you are not strong-willed. Also, most imported TV shows and movies are in original language (i.e. 90\% English). Learning Norwegian also means you can read Danish and read/understand Swedish.</li><li>3. Insane, but you pay what you get for. Alcoholic beverages quite expensive because of local edition of prohibition never really being abolished. Foodstuffs are expensive because of protectionism, and quality is lacking (keep in mind I come from a country with high food standard, so I am picky; from the US it's probably still an improvement). Other wares (computer parts, internet connections, whatever could interest a slashdotter) are in line with most of Europe. However, salaries are pretty high for most standards. Note that the Gini index is quite low, i.e. as a sysadmin you will make more than in the US, but not as a CEO.</li></ol><p>You forgot to ask for:
</p><ul>
<li>Taxes; it's 25\% VAT IIRC, plus about 25-30\% on your income (that's for a typical engineering job, after all detractions are taken care of). In 2007 I made 458 kNOK (about $100k) gross as a C++ programmer and paid 29.5\% in direct taxes.</li><li>Healthcare: Grand Old Socialist system. You pay 7.8\% of gross income (that's already included in the figure at the previous point), when you go to the hospital you could have to pay a fee; anything beyond a certain amount (it used to be 1600 NOK / $250) is shouldered by the state, though. Dentists are for reasons unknown to me only private (and guess what, that's the part of the Norwegian health care that it expensive and broken).</li><li>Bureaucracy: pretty efficient. I live in Germany now and I think the Norwegians did a better job. Not boneheaded at following rules, result-oriented but not scruffy.</li></ul><p>So yes, it's a pretty nice place to be, unless you can't stand snow, rain, and socialists in power.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not Norwegian myself , though lived there 7 years .
Possibly moving back in the near future .
1. Pretty good I would say .
The country has had budget surplus for years and is not feeling the effects of the crisis as bad as e.g .
Iceland. Estate prices actually went up 4 \ % first quarter [ www.vg.no ] ( most Norwegians do own their home , so it 's a good indicator ) .2 .
Norwegian is not as difficult as German but not as easy as French , many words are not guessable .
Main difficulty is that everybody speaks very good English and practising Norwegian is quite difficult if you are not strong-willed .
Also , most imported TV shows and movies are in original language ( i.e .
90 \ % English ) .
Learning Norwegian also means you can read Danish and read/understand Swedish.3 .
Insane , but you pay what you get for .
Alcoholic beverages quite expensive because of local edition of prohibition never really being abolished .
Foodstuffs are expensive because of protectionism , and quality is lacking ( keep in mind I come from a country with high food standard , so I am picky ; from the US it 's probably still an improvement ) .
Other wares ( computer parts , internet connections , whatever could interest a slashdotter ) are in line with most of Europe .
However , salaries are pretty high for most standards .
Note that the Gini index is quite low , i.e .
as a sysadmin you will make more than in the US , but not as a CEO.You forgot to ask for : Taxes ; it 's 25 \ % VAT IIRC , plus about 25-30 \ % on your income ( that 's for a typical engineering job , after all detractions are taken care of ) .
In 2007 I made 458 kNOK ( about $ 100k ) gross as a C + + programmer and paid 29.5 \ % in direct taxes.Healthcare : Grand Old Socialist system .
You pay 7.8 \ % of gross income ( that 's already included in the figure at the previous point ) , when you go to the hospital you could have to pay a fee ; anything beyond a certain amount ( it used to be 1600 NOK / $ 250 ) is shouldered by the state , though .
Dentists are for reasons unknown to me only private ( and guess what , that 's the part of the Norwegian health care that it expensive and broken ) .Bureaucracy : pretty efficient .
I live in Germany now and I think the Norwegians did a better job .
Not boneheaded at following rules , result-oriented but not scruffy.So yes , it 's a pretty nice place to be , unless you ca n't stand snow , rain , and socialists in power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not Norwegian myself, though lived there 7 years.
Possibly moving back in the near future.
1. Pretty good I would say.
The country has had budget surplus for years and is not feeling the effects of the crisis as bad as e.g.
Iceland. Estate prices actually went up 4\% first quarter [www.vg.no] (most Norwegians do own their home, so it's a good indicator).2.
Norwegian is not as difficult as German but not as easy as French, many words are not guessable.
Main difficulty is that everybody speaks very good English and practising Norwegian is quite difficult if you are not strong-willed.
Also, most imported TV shows and movies are in original language (i.e.
90\% English).
Learning Norwegian also means you can read Danish and read/understand Swedish.3.
Insane, but you pay what you get for.
Alcoholic beverages quite expensive because of local edition of prohibition never really being abolished.
Foodstuffs are expensive because of protectionism, and quality is lacking (keep in mind I come from a country with high food standard, so I am picky; from the US it's probably still an improvement).
Other wares (computer parts, internet connections, whatever could interest a slashdotter) are in line with most of Europe.
However, salaries are pretty high for most standards.
Note that the Gini index is quite low, i.e.
as a sysadmin you will make more than in the US, but not as a CEO.You forgot to ask for:

Taxes; it's 25\% VAT IIRC, plus about 25-30\% on your income (that's for a typical engineering job, after all detractions are taken care of).
In 2007 I made 458 kNOK (about $100k) gross as a C++ programmer and paid 29.5\% in direct taxes.Healthcare: Grand Old Socialist system.
You pay 7.8\% of gross income (that's already included in the figure at the previous point), when you go to the hospital you could have to pay a fee; anything beyond a certain amount (it used to be 1600 NOK / $250) is shouldered by the state, though.
Dentists are for reasons unknown to me only private (and guess what, that's the part of the Norwegian health care that it expensive and broken).Bureaucracy: pretty efficient.
I live in Germany now and I think the Norwegians did a better job.
Not boneheaded at following rules, result-oriented but not scruffy.So yes, it's a pretty nice place to be, unless you can't stand snow, rain, and socialists in power.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443361</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>2obvious4u</author>
	<datestamp>1245788160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate that I live in fear of the government.  I hate censorship.  I'm even scared to make this post.  I have never looked at child porn, nor had the desire to do so, but the parent post makes me curious what the big deal is and I have a very curious urge to google it and see what the fuss is; however I know that if I do I'll probably have my big brother government knocking down my door and arresting me on some sort of child pornography charges.  So once again I'm afraid of my government and I guess that is the way they want it to be... that doesn't mean its right.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate that I live in fear of the government .
I hate censorship .
I 'm even scared to make this post .
I have never looked at child porn , nor had the desire to do so , but the parent post makes me curious what the big deal is and I have a very curious urge to google it and see what the fuss is ; however I know that if I do I 'll probably have my big brother government knocking down my door and arresting me on some sort of child pornography charges .
So once again I 'm afraid of my government and I guess that is the way they want it to be... that does n't mean its right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate that I live in fear of the government.
I hate censorship.
I'm even scared to make this post.
I have never looked at child porn, nor had the desire to do so, but the parent post makes me curious what the big deal is and I have a very curious urge to google it and see what the fuss is; however I know that if I do I'll probably have my big brother government knocking down my door and arresting me on some sort of child pornography charges.
So once again I'm afraid of my government and I guess that is the way they want it to be... that doesn't mean its right.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442525</id>
	<title>How do I Immigrate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245785280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>How do I immigrate to Norway from US?  Sounds like the place to be!!!  I'm in IT, and have pretty fair skills, Siebel, VB, some web, java, C etc also Cobol and other dinosaurs and assorted relics...</htmltext>
<tokenext>How do I immigrate to Norway from US ?
Sounds like the place to be ! ! !
I 'm in IT , and have pretty fair skills , Siebel , VB , some web , java , C etc also Cobol and other dinosaurs and assorted relics.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do I immigrate to Norway from US?
Sounds like the place to be!!!
I'm in IT, and have pretty fair skills, Siebel, VB, some web, java, C etc also Cobol and other dinosaurs and assorted relics...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442885</id>
	<title>Re:How do I Immigrate?</title>
	<author>PolygamousRanchKid </author>
	<datestamp>1245786480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Critical oil industry application skills would be a help.  Or saturation diving experience.
</p><p> . . . and if your idea of Christmas Dinner is a blow-torched sheep's head, you're in: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove</a> [wikipedia.org]
</p><p>"I got dibs on the tongue!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Critical oil industry application skills would be a help .
Or saturation diving experience .
. .
. and if your idea of Christmas Dinner is a blow-torched sheep 's head , you 're in : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove [ wikipedia.org ] " I got dibs on the tongue !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Critical oil industry application skills would be a help.
Or saturation diving experience.
. .
. and if your idea of Christmas Dinner is a blow-torched sheep's head, you're in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove [wikipedia.org]
"I got dibs on the tongue!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442497</id>
	<title>It's not fair!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245785220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The most beautiful women in the world, AND they protect pirates!?! Damn, I wish I were Norwegian!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The most beautiful women in the world , AND they protect pirates ! ? !
Damn , I wish I were Norwegian !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most beautiful women in the world, AND they protect pirates!?!
Damn, I wish I were Norwegian!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28445669</id>
	<title>Re:Hopefully they aren't storing this on a Linux b</title>
	<author>morghanphoenix</author>
	<datestamp>1245752940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Every time I see this post I wonder if he meant to use "web-sights" or if he simply doesn't know how to spell.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Every time I see this post I wonder if he meant to use " web-sights " or if he simply does n't know how to spell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every time I see this post I wonder if he meant to use "web-sights" or if he simply doesn't know how to spell.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443291</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>fadir</author>
	<datestamp>1245787860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nice summary even though I don't understand how one could think that French would be easier to learn than Norwegian.</p><p>Actually 100\% of the movies are original language with subtitles, except for children stuff. I have yet to find a single dubbed 12+ movie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice summary even though I do n't understand how one could think that French would be easier to learn than Norwegian.Actually 100 \ % of the movies are original language with subtitles , except for children stuff .
I have yet to find a single dubbed 12 + movie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice summary even though I don't understand how one could think that French would be easier to learn than Norwegian.Actually 100\% of the movies are original language with subtitles, except for children stuff.
I have yet to find a single dubbed 12+ movie.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441855</id>
	<title>Or maybe they don't care...</title>
	<author>Jah-Wren Ryel</author>
	<datestamp>1245782940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe its not that they care so much about privacy that they don't care so much about piracy.</p><p>The reason the US gets so butt-hurt about piracy is because hollywood dominates the entertainment business worldwide - there are only a handful of countries were domestic movies regularly outsell hollywood productions at the box office (mostly S Korea, France, India and mainland China and some of that is helped by quota restrictions on foreign productions), and my guess is that the number is even smaller when it comes to DVDs.</p><p>Now I'm going to make a wild-ass guess that a lot of the locally produced works in Norway receive significant public funding.  If true, that's also an incentive to ignore piracy because if tax dollars are paying for the creation then it isn't a big leap of logic to expect that the results are "owned" by the public too.</p><p>So, from that perspective, it seems reasonable that anti-piracy would be near the bottom of the list of government priorities in Norway (and many other countries for that matter).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe its not that they care so much about privacy that they do n't care so much about piracy.The reason the US gets so butt-hurt about piracy is because hollywood dominates the entertainment business worldwide - there are only a handful of countries were domestic movies regularly outsell hollywood productions at the box office ( mostly S Korea , France , India and mainland China and some of that is helped by quota restrictions on foreign productions ) , and my guess is that the number is even smaller when it comes to DVDs.Now I 'm going to make a wild-ass guess that a lot of the locally produced works in Norway receive significant public funding .
If true , that 's also an incentive to ignore piracy because if tax dollars are paying for the creation then it is n't a big leap of logic to expect that the results are " owned " by the public too.So , from that perspective , it seems reasonable that anti-piracy would be near the bottom of the list of government priorities in Norway ( and many other countries for that matter ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe its not that they care so much about privacy that they don't care so much about piracy.The reason the US gets so butt-hurt about piracy is because hollywood dominates the entertainment business worldwide - there are only a handful of countries were domestic movies regularly outsell hollywood productions at the box office (mostly S Korea, France, India and mainland China and some of that is helped by quota restrictions on foreign productions), and my guess is that the number is even smaller when it comes to DVDs.Now I'm going to make a wild-ass guess that a lot of the locally produced works in Norway receive significant public funding.
If true, that's also an incentive to ignore piracy because if tax dollars are paying for the creation then it isn't a big leap of logic to expect that the results are "owned" by the public too.So, from that perspective, it seems reasonable that anti-piracy would be near the bottom of the list of government priorities in Norway (and many other countries for that matter).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443121</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245787260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The ISP's don't censor<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... They all do subscribe to a voluntary kidporn DNS-filter though.</i></p><p>Censoring kidporn is censorship!  I'm sure kiddy-porn fans would consider Norway "sensible" if they didn't do this.  Just goes to show: people like when their government does what they want - regardless of the consequences for everyone else, and I'm talking about both piracy and kiddy porn with that statement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The ISP 's do n't censor ... They all do subscribe to a voluntary kidporn DNS-filter though.Censoring kidporn is censorship !
I 'm sure kiddy-porn fans would consider Norway " sensible " if they did n't do this .
Just goes to show : people like when their government does what they want - regardless of the consequences for everyone else , and I 'm talking about both piracy and kiddy porn with that statement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ISP's don't censor ... They all do subscribe to a voluntary kidporn DNS-filter though.Censoring kidporn is censorship!
I'm sure kiddy-porn fans would consider Norway "sensible" if they didn't do this.
Just goes to show: people like when their government does what they want - regardless of the consequences for everyone else, and I'm talking about both piracy and kiddy porn with that statement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28444753</id>
	<title>Re:Yarrrrr...</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1245749640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'm currently sitting here listening to an mp3 of the Symphony of the Seas, from the old album Hooked on Classics, along with mental flashbacks of the scene where the Jolly Roger was raised during Pirates of the Carribean.</i> </p><p>In other words:</p><p>You are wholly a product of a pop culture in which strong copyright is the norm.</p><p>--- and how typically geek it is that your fantasies of piracy come second-hand from a Disney theme park ride.</p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Symphony-Of-The-Seas/dp/B001KEJK1K" title="amazon.com">Symphony Of The Seas</a> [amazon.com] 89 cents.</p><p><i>Hooked on Classics was a series of record albums first introduced in 1981, toward the end of the disco era's peak in popularity.<br>Louis Clark, former arranger for Electric Light Orchestra, conducted the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra playing a collection of very recognizable extracts from classical music pieces played over a continuous beat (sometimes an overtly disco fast beat, sometimes a slower and more subtle rhythm) which linked the segments together. This is called the Symphonic Rock or Orchestrated Rock genre, like London Symphony Orchestra did in their Classic Rock series but with less electronic effects.</i> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooked\_on\_Classics" title="wikipedia.org">Hooked on Classics</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm currently sitting here listening to an mp3 of the Symphony of the Seas , from the old album Hooked on Classics , along with mental flashbacks of the scene where the Jolly Roger was raised during Pirates of the Carribean .
In other words : You are wholly a product of a pop culture in which strong copyright is the norm.--- and how typically geek it is that your fantasies of piracy come second-hand from a Disney theme park ride.Symphony Of The Seas [ amazon.com ] 89 cents.Hooked on Classics was a series of record albums first introduced in 1981 , toward the end of the disco era 's peak in popularity.Louis Clark , former arranger for Electric Light Orchestra , conducted the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra playing a collection of very recognizable extracts from classical music pieces played over a continuous beat ( sometimes an overtly disco fast beat , sometimes a slower and more subtle rhythm ) which linked the segments together .
This is called the Symphonic Rock or Orchestrated Rock genre , like London Symphony Orchestra did in their Classic Rock series but with less electronic effects .
Hooked on Classics [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm currently sitting here listening to an mp3 of the Symphony of the Seas, from the old album Hooked on Classics, along with mental flashbacks of the scene where the Jolly Roger was raised during Pirates of the Carribean.
In other words:You are wholly a product of a pop culture in which strong copyright is the norm.--- and how typically geek it is that your fantasies of piracy come second-hand from a Disney theme park ride.Symphony Of The Seas [amazon.com] 89 cents.Hooked on Classics was a series of record albums first introduced in 1981, toward the end of the disco era's peak in popularity.Louis Clark, former arranger for Electric Light Orchestra, conducted the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra playing a collection of very recognizable extracts from classical music pieces played over a continuous beat (sometimes an overtly disco fast beat, sometimes a slower and more subtle rhythm) which linked the segments together.
This is called the Symphonic Rock or Orchestrated Rock genre, like London Symphony Orchestra did in their Classic Rock series but with less electronic effects.
Hooked on Classics [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28444465</id>
	<title>Offtopic, but nowhere else to ask</title>
	<author>causality</author>
	<datestamp>1245748620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do unordered lists like that look odd to anyone else?  This only happens to me on Slashdot, but whenever anyone uses the UL and LI tags here, it ends up putting annoying greyish bars smack in the middle of the list.  It's happened to me when I was the one authoring the post and constructing the list, so I know it's not because of extraneous HTML tags or anything like that.  If it happened on any other site I ever visit I'd suspect a rendering problem with Firefox.  Now I don't mean this in a bad way, but just realistically, considering all the oddities I see on Slashdot (like the way comment count occasionally disappears and reappears on the main page without explanation) I don't think this is because of Firefox.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do unordered lists like that look odd to anyone else ?
This only happens to me on Slashdot , but whenever anyone uses the UL and LI tags here , it ends up putting annoying greyish bars smack in the middle of the list .
It 's happened to me when I was the one authoring the post and constructing the list , so I know it 's not because of extraneous HTML tags or anything like that .
If it happened on any other site I ever visit I 'd suspect a rendering problem with Firefox .
Now I do n't mean this in a bad way , but just realistically , considering all the oddities I see on Slashdot ( like the way comment count occasionally disappears and reappears on the main page without explanation ) I do n't think this is because of Firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do unordered lists like that look odd to anyone else?
This only happens to me on Slashdot, but whenever anyone uses the UL and LI tags here, it ends up putting annoying greyish bars smack in the middle of the list.
It's happened to me when I was the one authoring the post and constructing the list, so I know it's not because of extraneous HTML tags or anything like that.
If it happened on any other site I ever visit I'd suspect a rendering problem with Firefox.
Now I don't mean this in a bad way, but just realistically, considering all the oddities I see on Slashdot (like the way comment count occasionally disappears and reappears on the main page without explanation) I don't think this is because of Firefox.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28447295</id>
	<title>Re:Half-right...</title>
	<author>metacell</author>
	<datestamp>1245760980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A bigger part of it is just that European governments take the privacy of their citizens very seriously.</p><p>Except Britain, of course.</p></div><p>I wish. Since the IPRED2 (the second Intellectual Property Rights Enforcement Directive) was approved by the European Union, all EU countries are required to log all phone calls, emails and other electronic communications for at least six months.</p><p>We're probaby better off than U.S. citizens in terms of systematic monitoring, but the situation is far from satisfactory.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A bigger part of it is just that European governments take the privacy of their citizens very seriously.Except Britain , of course.I wish .
Since the IPRED2 ( the second Intellectual Property Rights Enforcement Directive ) was approved by the European Union , all EU countries are required to log all phone calls , emails and other electronic communications for at least six months.We 're probaby better off than U.S. citizens in terms of systematic monitoring , but the situation is far from satisfactory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A bigger part of it is just that European governments take the privacy of their citizens very seriously.Except Britain, of course.I wish.
Since the IPRED2 (the second Intellectual Property Rights Enforcement Directive) was approved by the European Union, all EU countries are required to log all phone calls, emails and other electronic communications for at least six months.We're probaby better off than U.S. citizens in terms of systematic monitoring, but the situation is far from satisfactory.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28464309</id>
	<title>Re:Half-right...</title>
	<author>mgcarley</author>
	<datestamp>1245926220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Excellent. I can't do anything about you if you're a file sharer, but if you try to skimp us on our high taxes, you'd better watch out! (Tax records are public in Norway last time I checked).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Excellent .
I ca n't do anything about you if you 're a file sharer , but if you try to skimp us on our high taxes , you 'd better watch out !
( Tax records are public in Norway last time I checked ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excellent.
I can't do anything about you if you're a file sharer, but if you try to skimp us on our high taxes, you'd better watch out!
(Tax records are public in Norway last time I checked).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442131</id>
	<title>What "abuses?"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245783900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What abuses in the U.S.?  Suing people who are violating your rights isn't abuse.  Slashdot and its readers all said that content owners should go after individual infringers back in 2000 when Napster was getting sued.  What's changed?  Or did you just say that back then thinking they wouldn't actually be able to go after infringers?</p><blockquote><div><p> it's now become safer than ever to be a file-sharer in Norway</p></div></blockquote><p>You mean pirate.  Why do we pretend that there's all this legitimate file-sharing going on?  It's so silly and facetious.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What abuses in the U.S. ?
Suing people who are violating your rights is n't abuse .
Slashdot and its readers all said that content owners should go after individual infringers back in 2000 when Napster was getting sued .
What 's changed ?
Or did you just say that back then thinking they would n't actually be able to go after infringers ?
it 's now become safer than ever to be a file-sharer in NorwayYou mean pirate .
Why do we pretend that there 's all this legitimate file-sharing going on ?
It 's so silly and facetious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What abuses in the U.S.?
Suing people who are violating your rights isn't abuse.
Slashdot and its readers all said that content owners should go after individual infringers back in 2000 when Napster was getting sued.
What's changed?
Or did you just say that back then thinking they wouldn't actually be able to go after infringers?
it's now become safer than ever to be a file-sharer in NorwayYou mean pirate.
Why do we pretend that there's all this legitimate file-sharing going on?
It's so silly and facetious.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441781</id>
	<title>This is not over yet...</title>
	<author>Sholmas</author>
	<datestamp>1245782760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Minister of Culture has said he supports the outing of "pirates", and will support the so-called "pirate-hunters" in their application for a new lisence.

Google Translate link:
<a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&amp;hl=en&amp;js=n&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.dagbladet.no\%2F2009\%2F06\%2F23\%2Fkultur\%2Ffildeling\%2Fteknio\%2Ftrond\_giske\%2F6860130\%2F&amp;sl=no&amp;tl=en&amp;history\_state0=" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&amp;hl=en&amp;js=n&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.dagbladet.no\%2F2009\%2F06\%2F23\%2Fkultur\%2Ffildeling\%2Fteknio\%2Ftrond\_giske\%2F6860130\%2F&amp;sl=no&amp;tl=en&amp;history\_state0=</a> [google.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Minister of Culture has said he supports the outing of " pirates " , and will support the so-called " pirate-hunters " in their application for a new lisence .
Google Translate link : http : //translate.google.com/translate ? prev = hp&amp;hl = en&amp;js = n&amp;u = http \ % 3A \ % 2F \ % 2Fwww.dagbladet.no \ % 2F2009 \ % 2F06 \ % 2F23 \ % 2Fkultur \ % 2Ffildeling \ % 2Fteknio \ % 2Ftrond \ _giske \ % 2F6860130 \ % 2F&amp;sl = no&amp;tl = en&amp;history \ _state0 = [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Minister of Culture has said he supports the outing of "pirates", and will support the so-called "pirate-hunters" in their application for a new lisence.
Google Translate link:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&amp;hl=en&amp;js=n&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.dagbladet.no\%2F2009\%2F06\%2F23\%2Fkultur\%2Ffildeling\%2Fteknio\%2Ftrond\_giske\%2F6860130\%2F&amp;sl=no&amp;tl=en&amp;history\_state0= [google.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442873</id>
	<title>Yarrrrr...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245786420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm currently sitting here listening to an mp3 of the Symphony of the Seas, from the old album Hooked on Classics, along with mental flashbacks of the scene where the Jolly Roger was raised during <i>Pirates of the Carribean.</i></p><p>As this article refers to a victory for piracy, it is a good opportunity to issue a collective, impassioned scream of defiance against the very concept of intellectual property; to remind ourselves of who the enemy is, and why they must, and eventually will, be entirely and unrelentingly destroyed.</p><p>WIPO, RIAA, MPAA, and other related organisations, you are recognised as institutions which perpetuate the toxic mentality that making money is, in itself, more important than being alive to spend it.  In our ongoing war with you, it is we, the greater public of this planet, who have the will of God on our side.  We will have justice.  We will have vengeance.</p><p>You are going to be removed from human memory.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm currently sitting here listening to an mp3 of the Symphony of the Seas , from the old album Hooked on Classics , along with mental flashbacks of the scene where the Jolly Roger was raised during Pirates of the Carribean.As this article refers to a victory for piracy , it is a good opportunity to issue a collective , impassioned scream of defiance against the very concept of intellectual property ; to remind ourselves of who the enemy is , and why they must , and eventually will , be entirely and unrelentingly destroyed.WIPO , RIAA , MPAA , and other related organisations , you are recognised as institutions which perpetuate the toxic mentality that making money is , in itself , more important than being alive to spend it .
In our ongoing war with you , it is we , the greater public of this planet , who have the will of God on our side .
We will have justice .
We will have vengeance.You are going to be removed from human memory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm currently sitting here listening to an mp3 of the Symphony of the Seas, from the old album Hooked on Classics, along with mental flashbacks of the scene where the Jolly Roger was raised during Pirates of the Carribean.As this article refers to a victory for piracy, it is a good opportunity to issue a collective, impassioned scream of defiance against the very concept of intellectual property; to remind ourselves of who the enemy is, and why they must, and eventually will, be entirely and unrelentingly destroyed.WIPO, RIAA, MPAA, and other related organisations, you are recognised as institutions which perpetuate the toxic mentality that making money is, in itself, more important than being alive to spend it.
In our ongoing war with you, it is we, the greater public of this planet, who have the will of God on our side.
We will have justice.
We will have vengeance.You are going to be removed from human memory.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28447513</id>
	<title>Re:Hopefully they aren't storing this on a Linux b</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245762420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>web-sights....</p><p>I think we are done here...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>web-sights....I think we are done here.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>web-sights....I think we are done here...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443593</id>
	<title>Re:This is not over yet...</title>
	<author>hyfe</author>
	<datestamp>1245788940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, but in the same article Ove Sk&#229;ra from Datatilsynet (computer-watch.. government institution set up to help protect our privacy. They give out permits for surveillance cameraes and can give out legally binding rulings to companies who are in breach of privacy-laws) is quoted with saying:
<p>
"- Da er et brev med en anbefaling p&#229; ingen m&#229;te nok. Hvis ikke det kommer noen nye opplysninger, vil jeg ikke tro at brevet gj&#248;r noen s&#230;rlig forskjell, sier han. "
</p><p> (..since we recently had a meeting with the department concerning this..)<br>
"- A letter with a recommondation is by no means enough. Unless there is new information relevant to the case, I do not believe the letter will make any difference".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but in the same article Ove Sk   ra from Datatilsynet ( computer-watch.. government institution set up to help protect our privacy .
They give out permits for surveillance cameraes and can give out legally binding rulings to companies who are in breach of privacy-laws ) is quoted with saying : " - Da er et brev med en anbefaling p   ingen m   te nok .
Hvis ikke det kommer noen nye opplysninger , vil jeg ikke tro at brevet gj   r noen s   rlig forskjell , sier han .
" ( ..since we recently had a meeting with the department concerning this.. ) " - A letter with a recommondation is by no means enough .
Unless there is new information relevant to the case , I do not believe the letter will make any difference " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but in the same article Ove Skåra from Datatilsynet (computer-watch.. government institution set up to help protect our privacy.
They give out permits for surveillance cameraes and can give out legally binding rulings to companies who are in breach of privacy-laws) is quoted with saying:

"- Da er et brev med en anbefaling på ingen måte nok.
Hvis ikke det kommer noen nye opplysninger, vil jeg ikke tro at brevet gjør noen særlig forskjell, sier han.
"
 (..since we recently had a meeting with the department concerning this..)
"- A letter with a recommondation is by no means enough.
Unless there is new information relevant to the case, I do not believe the letter will make any difference".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28446679</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>init100</author>
	<datestamp>1245757440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I actually downloaded the list of wikileaks once, switched to opendns (whom we all should avoid) and checked it out. I really, really regretted it. There really was childporn there.</p></div><p>Did you check the entire list? I haven't seen it, but I'd guess that it contains more than just a handful of sites, so checking the entire list could be a pretty hefty job. There is no surprise that the list contains child porn sites, I mean, that's the publicly stated goal of the list. The problem with such a list is that there may be certain sites sneaked into the list by the government, despite having no connection to child porn, simply because the government deems them unfit for general consumption. Since the list is confidential, it is in practice not possible to appeal inclusion into the list, since nobody outside the government and the ISPs know what it contains.</p><p>Personally, I'd rather get the child pornographers prosecuted and their sites taken offline, than having a secret list unavailable to public scrutiny, of sites that all ISPs simply block. It's the difference between taking care of a problem and pretending that it doesn't exist. That the secret list can be silently expanded to other topics that the government doesn't like, with the public having no say in the matter, is also a significant problem since it allows for unchecked censorship by the government.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually downloaded the list of wikileaks once , switched to opendns ( whom we all should avoid ) and checked it out .
I really , really regretted it .
There really was childporn there.Did you check the entire list ?
I have n't seen it , but I 'd guess that it contains more than just a handful of sites , so checking the entire list could be a pretty hefty job .
There is no surprise that the list contains child porn sites , I mean , that 's the publicly stated goal of the list .
The problem with such a list is that there may be certain sites sneaked into the list by the government , despite having no connection to child porn , simply because the government deems them unfit for general consumption .
Since the list is confidential , it is in practice not possible to appeal inclusion into the list , since nobody outside the government and the ISPs know what it contains.Personally , I 'd rather get the child pornographers prosecuted and their sites taken offline , than having a secret list unavailable to public scrutiny , of sites that all ISPs simply block .
It 's the difference between taking care of a problem and pretending that it does n't exist .
That the secret list can be silently expanded to other topics that the government does n't like , with the public having no say in the matter , is also a significant problem since it allows for unchecked censorship by the government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually downloaded the list of wikileaks once, switched to opendns (whom we all should avoid) and checked it out.
I really, really regretted it.
There really was childporn there.Did you check the entire list?
I haven't seen it, but I'd guess that it contains more than just a handful of sites, so checking the entire list could be a pretty hefty job.
There is no surprise that the list contains child porn sites, I mean, that's the publicly stated goal of the list.
The problem with such a list is that there may be certain sites sneaked into the list by the government, despite having no connection to child porn, simply because the government deems them unfit for general consumption.
Since the list is confidential, it is in practice not possible to appeal inclusion into the list, since nobody outside the government and the ISPs know what it contains.Personally, I'd rather get the child pornographers prosecuted and their sites taken offline, than having a secret list unavailable to public scrutiny, of sites that all ISPs simply block.
It's the difference between taking care of a problem and pretending that it doesn't exist.
That the secret list can be silently expanded to other topics that the government doesn't like, with the public having no say in the matter, is also a significant problem since it allows for unchecked censorship by the government.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442539</id>
	<title>Well..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245785340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Full disclosure: I'm Norwegian!

As somebody who has spent a fair time abroad, I'm growing to like Norway more and more. We're just, well, sensible.

The ISP's don't censor, don't log and don't do crappy shit. They all do subscribe to a voluntary kidporn DNS-filter though. I actually downloaded the list of wikileaks once, switched to opendns (whom we all should avoid) and checked it out. I really, really regretted it. There really was childporn there. Anybody getting of on that shit needs to have their dick cut off.

Either way, the ISP's are upfront if they're selling internet with usage limits (mainly due to strong Norwegian customer protection, companies aren't allowed to fuck you over), and everything just generally works. Not that that stops most norwegian from bitching about everything though. Bitching is kinda the national past-time.

Seriously, I'm a big believer in the "freedom to not be fucked over". I definitivly enjoy not being screwed over, and I really do think more people should subscribe to it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Full disclosure : I 'm Norwegian !
As somebody who has spent a fair time abroad , I 'm growing to like Norway more and more .
We 're just , well , sensible .
The ISP 's do n't censor , do n't log and do n't do crappy shit .
They all do subscribe to a voluntary kidporn DNS-filter though .
I actually downloaded the list of wikileaks once , switched to opendns ( whom we all should avoid ) and checked it out .
I really , really regretted it .
There really was childporn there .
Anybody getting of on that shit needs to have their dick cut off .
Either way , the ISP 's are upfront if they 're selling internet with usage limits ( mainly due to strong Norwegian customer protection , companies are n't allowed to fuck you over ) , and everything just generally works .
Not that that stops most norwegian from bitching about everything though .
Bitching is kinda the national past-time .
Seriously , I 'm a big believer in the " freedom to not be fucked over " .
I definitivly enjoy not being screwed over , and I really do think more people should subscribe to it : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Full disclosure: I'm Norwegian!
As somebody who has spent a fair time abroad, I'm growing to like Norway more and more.
We're just, well, sensible.
The ISP's don't censor, don't log and don't do crappy shit.
They all do subscribe to a voluntary kidporn DNS-filter though.
I actually downloaded the list of wikileaks once, switched to opendns (whom we all should avoid) and checked it out.
I really, really regretted it.
There really was childporn there.
Anybody getting of on that shit needs to have their dick cut off.
Either way, the ISP's are upfront if they're selling internet with usage limits (mainly due to strong Norwegian customer protection, companies aren't allowed to fuck you over), and everything just generally works.
Not that that stops most norwegian from bitching about everything though.
Bitching is kinda the national past-time.
Seriously, I'm a big believer in the "freedom to not be fucked over".
I definitivly enjoy not being screwed over, and I really do think more people should subscribe to it :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443993</id>
	<title>Re:This is not over yet...</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1245790260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He was positive the last time too, but the data protection agency has basicly said we need laws/regulatiosn to keep doing this - no more temporary permits. The translation in poor:</p><p>"This is a letter with a recommendation in no way NOK. If not there is any new information, I will not believe that letter makes much difference, "he said."<br>should be:<br>"Then a letter of recommendation is in no way enough. If there is no new information, I do not believe the letter will make much difference" he said.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He was positive the last time too , but the data protection agency has basicly said we need laws/regulatiosn to keep doing this - no more temporary permits .
The translation in poor : " This is a letter with a recommendation in no way NOK .
If not there is any new information , I will not believe that letter makes much difference , " he said .
" should be : " Then a letter of recommendation is in no way enough .
If there is no new information , I do not believe the letter will make much difference " he said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He was positive the last time too, but the data protection agency has basicly said we need laws/regulatiosn to keep doing this - no more temporary permits.
The translation in poor:"This is a letter with a recommendation in no way NOK.
If not there is any new information, I will not believe that letter makes much difference, "he said.
"should be:"Then a letter of recommendation is in no way enough.
If there is no new information, I do not believe the letter will make much difference" he said.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442575</id>
	<title>Re:Half-right...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245785400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Except Britain, of course.</p></div><p>And lets not forget France.  And occasionally Germany, and at some point or another pretty much every "western" country.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except Britain , of course.And lets not forget France .
And occasionally Germany , and at some point or another pretty much every " western " country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except Britain, of course.And lets not forget France.
And occasionally Germany, and at some point or another pretty much every "western" country.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28445079</id>
	<title>Re:This is not over yet...</title>
	<author>Dragonslicer</author>
	<datestamp>1245750840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Pirate-hunters" -- you are speaking of course about their age-old enemies, the ninjas?</p></div><p>Samus Aran is a ninja? That does explain a lot, I guess.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Pirate-hunters " -- you are speaking of course about their age-old enemies , the ninjas ? Samus Aran is a ninja ?
That does explain a lot , I guess .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Pirate-hunters" -- you are speaking of course about their age-old enemies, the ninjas?Samus Aran is a ninja?
That does explain a lot, I guess.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28452361</id>
	<title>Re:This is not over yet...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245858060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The Minister of Culture has said he supports the outing of "pirates", and will support the so-called "pirate-hunters" in their application for a new lisence.</p></div></blockquote><p>Why?  I heard global warming is a real bitch.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Minister of Culture has said he supports the outing of " pirates " , and will support the so-called " pirate-hunters " in their application for a new lisence.Why ?
I heard global warming is a real bitch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Minister of Culture has said he supports the outing of "pirates", and will support the so-called "pirate-hunters" in their application for a new lisence.Why?
I heard global warming is a real bitch.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443877</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1245789900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>2. Norwegian is not as difficult as German but not as easy as French, many words are not guessable. Main difficulty is that everybody speaks very good English and practising Norwegian is quite difficult if you are not strong-willed. Also, most imported TV shows and movies are in original language (i.e. 90\% English). Learning Norwegian also means you can read Danish and read/understand Swedish.</p></div><p>If norwegian is your first langauge outside english, I'd call it optimistic to understand swedish and danish as well. You said you live in germany now and knowing german helps a lot, often words have their german counterpart instead. For example window = vindu (norwegian) - vindue (danish) - f&#246;nster (swedish) - Fenster (german).</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Healthcare: Grand Old Socialist system.</p></div><p>This might need a small clarification for US readers. It goes something like this:<br>Norwegian left &lt;---&gt; Norwegian right &lt;--------------------&gt; Democrats &lt;---&gt; Republicans<br>Not communist left in that you got democracy, freedom of speech, pro-choice, gay marriage etc. but economically it's very different than the US.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 .
Norwegian is not as difficult as German but not as easy as French , many words are not guessable .
Main difficulty is that everybody speaks very good English and practising Norwegian is quite difficult if you are not strong-willed .
Also , most imported TV shows and movies are in original language ( i.e .
90 \ % English ) .
Learning Norwegian also means you can read Danish and read/understand Swedish.If norwegian is your first langauge outside english , I 'd call it optimistic to understand swedish and danish as well .
You said you live in germany now and knowing german helps a lot , often words have their german counterpart instead .
For example window = vindu ( norwegian ) - vindue ( danish ) - f   nster ( swedish ) - Fenster ( german ) .Healthcare : Grand Old Socialist system.This might need a small clarification for US readers .
It goes something like this : Norwegian left Norwegian right Democrats RepublicansNot communist left in that you got democracy , freedom of speech , pro-choice , gay marriage etc .
but economically it 's very different than the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2.
Norwegian is not as difficult as German but not as easy as French, many words are not guessable.
Main difficulty is that everybody speaks very good English and practising Norwegian is quite difficult if you are not strong-willed.
Also, most imported TV shows and movies are in original language (i.e.
90\% English).
Learning Norwegian also means you can read Danish and read/understand Swedish.If norwegian is your first langauge outside english, I'd call it optimistic to understand swedish and danish as well.
You said you live in germany now and knowing german helps a lot, often words have their german counterpart instead.
For example window = vindu (norwegian) - vindue (danish) - fönster (swedish) - Fenster (german).Healthcare: Grand Old Socialist system.This might need a small clarification for US readers.
It goes something like this:Norwegian left  Norwegian right  Democrats  RepublicansNot communist left in that you got democracy, freedom of speech, pro-choice, gay marriage etc.
but economically it's very different than the US.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443081</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>fadir</author>
	<datestamp>1245787140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Opera is based in Oslo. A couple of Oil&amp;Gas oriented IT companies exist.<br>2. Norwegian is very easy to learn if you actually take a little time and do it. But it's not required, especially not for an IT job.<br>3. Oslo is one of the most expensive cities in world, but so are the incomes.</p><p>Plus: a socialist government, 44(54) weeks maternity/paternity leave 100\%(80\%), amazing countryside</p><p>Have a look at wikipedia. If you like to live the "American dream" then you will probably be disappointed. If you life without fear to lose your job next day then you might like it here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Opera is based in Oslo .
A couple of Oil&amp;Gas oriented IT companies exist.2 .
Norwegian is very easy to learn if you actually take a little time and do it .
But it 's not required , especially not for an IT job.3 .
Oslo is one of the most expensive cities in world , but so are the incomes.Plus : a socialist government , 44 ( 54 ) weeks maternity/paternity leave 100 \ % ( 80 \ % ) , amazing countrysideHave a look at wikipedia .
If you like to live the " American dream " then you will probably be disappointed .
If you life without fear to lose your job next day then you might like it here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Opera is based in Oslo.
A couple of Oil&amp;Gas oriented IT companies exist.2.
Norwegian is very easy to learn if you actually take a little time and do it.
But it's not required, especially not for an IT job.3.
Oslo is one of the most expensive cities in world, but so are the incomes.Plus: a socialist government, 44(54) weeks maternity/paternity leave 100\%(80\%), amazing countrysideHave a look at wikipedia.
If you like to live the "American dream" then you will probably be disappointed.
If you life without fear to lose your job next day then you might like it here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442321</id>
	<title>Re:Half-right...</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1245784500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A bigger part of it is just that European governments take the privacy of their citizens very seriously.
<br> <br>
Except Britain, of course.</p></div><p>I was under the impression the British government took privacy very - almost too - seriously. They even have those cameras set up to monitor private lives - ensuring no one's right to privacy goes overlooked or unwatched. How can the government know their citizens have privacy if the government can't watch?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A bigger part of it is just that European governments take the privacy of their citizens very seriously .
Except Britain , of course.I was under the impression the British government took privacy very - almost too - seriously .
They even have those cameras set up to monitor private lives - ensuring no one 's right to privacy goes overlooked or unwatched .
How can the government know their citizens have privacy if the government ca n't watch ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A bigger part of it is just that European governments take the privacy of their citizens very seriously.
Except Britain, of course.I was under the impression the British government took privacy very - almost too - seriously.
They even have those cameras set up to monitor private lives - ensuring no one's right to privacy goes overlooked or unwatched.
How can the government know their citizens have privacy if the government can't watch?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28444379</id>
	<title>Re:Or maybe they don't care...</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1245748320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>hollywood dominates the entertainment business worldwide - there are only a handful of countries were domestic movies regularly outsell hollywood productions at the box office...and some of that is helped by quota restrictions on foreign productions</i> </p><p>I suspect that would be true across the board - music, books, games and videos of every sort.</p><p>But that has implications the geek may not like.</p><p>It suggests - first of all - that the small scale open-sourced "garage band" culture the geek imagines will never happen.</p><p>It suggests that your home-grown product, your ethnic or national culture will remain permanently under siege.</p><p>--- and that makes the political case for government intervention.</p><p>The suppression of piracy always has two roots:</p><p>The need to protect your export markets. The need to protect your domestic producers. When those two interests converge, the pirate doesn't stand a chance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hollywood dominates the entertainment business worldwide - there are only a handful of countries were domestic movies regularly outsell hollywood productions at the box office...and some of that is helped by quota restrictions on foreign productions I suspect that would be true across the board - music , books , games and videos of every sort.But that has implications the geek may not like.It suggests - first of all - that the small scale open-sourced " garage band " culture the geek imagines will never happen.It suggests that your home-grown product , your ethnic or national culture will remain permanently under siege.--- and that makes the political case for government intervention.The suppression of piracy always has two roots : The need to protect your export markets .
The need to protect your domestic producers .
When those two interests converge , the pirate does n't stand a chance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hollywood dominates the entertainment business worldwide - there are only a handful of countries were domestic movies regularly outsell hollywood productions at the box office...and some of that is helped by quota restrictions on foreign productions I suspect that would be true across the board - music, books, games and videos of every sort.But that has implications the geek may not like.It suggests - first of all - that the small scale open-sourced "garage band" culture the geek imagines will never happen.It suggests that your home-grown product, your ethnic or national culture will remain permanently under siege.--- and that makes the political case for government intervention.The suppression of piracy always has two roots:The need to protect your export markets.
The need to protect your domestic producers.
When those two interests converge, the pirate doesn't stand a chance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28444625</id>
	<title>Re:This is not over yet...</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1245749280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So if a ninja gets a law degree we're all screwed?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So if a ninja gets a law degree we 're all screwed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if a ninja gets a law degree we're all screwed?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441735</id>
	<title>Half-right...</title>
	<author>Chabo</author>
	<datestamp>1245782640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sounds like Norway's government treats privacy seriously. Maybe they've been watching the abuses in the USA.</p></div><p>A bigger part of it is just that European governments take the privacy of their citizens very seriously.</p><p>Except Britain, of course.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like Norway 's government treats privacy seriously .
Maybe they 've been watching the abuses in the USA.A bigger part of it is just that European governments take the privacy of their citizens very seriously.Except Britain , of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like Norway's government treats privacy seriously.
Maybe they've been watching the abuses in the USA.A bigger part of it is just that European governments take the privacy of their citizens very seriously.Except Britain, of course.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443165</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>fadir</author>
	<datestamp>1245787380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know why you think that Norwegian is hard to learn but we have a student from England here and he learnt fluent Norwegian within a few months without any major effort. The language is pretty easy, no fancy grammar or the like.</p><p>Try learning Russian or Finnish and then compare it to Norwegian!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know why you think that Norwegian is hard to learn but we have a student from England here and he learnt fluent Norwegian within a few months without any major effort .
The language is pretty easy , no fancy grammar or the like.Try learning Russian or Finnish and then compare it to Norwegian !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know why you think that Norwegian is hard to learn but we have a student from England here and he learnt fluent Norwegian within a few months without any major effort.
The language is pretty easy, no fancy grammar or the like.Try learning Russian or Finnish and then compare it to Norwegian!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28444797</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245749760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love the political difference:</p><p>Norwegian left  Norwegian right  Democrats  Republicans</p><p>It really scares me how narrow the political spectrum in the US is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the political difference : Norwegian left Norwegian right Democrats RepublicansIt really scares me how narrow the political spectrum in the US is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love the political difference:Norwegian left  Norwegian right  Democrats  RepublicansIt really scares me how narrow the political spectrum in the US is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28450245</id>
	<title>Socialists in power Re:So, for the Norwegian Slash</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245835620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Social democrats not socialists, the difference is often large and a lot of the social democrat policies are much closer to the conservative policies than the socialist ones.</p><p>Of course one can debate politics endlessly but my opinion (as a Norwegian AC voting for FrP, the right-most mainstream party) is that Arbeiderpartiet (the social democratic labor party) is to the <b>right</b> (not left!) of for example the current US executive administration. Arbeiderpartiet also has the history of being a staunch opponent to Soviet communism (in particular through the recently deceased Haakon Lie <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haakon\_Lie" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haakon\_Lie</a> [wikipedia.org] who was a political juggernaut) and Arbeiderpartiet was a dependable supporter of NATO during the cold war (and now). With regard to NATO even the socialists (a party called Sosialistisk Venstreparti) have recently begun relaxing their attitude of opposition, leaving only (some/most) communists in opposition to continued membership.</p><p>That said and while I don't share their ideology most Norwegian socialists and communists are sensible people as well as great individuals. Very few of them are anything like the continental or American socialists/communists.</p><p>The former leader of FrP (Carl Ivar Hagen) with "glimt i &#195;ye" ("a sparkle in the eye", i.e. with humor) admitted that everyone in Norway himself included is a social democrat to some degree.</p><p>Norway and Norwegians are simply too different<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) whether we like it or not (ref.: anderledeslandet trans.: "different-land").</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Social democrats not socialists , the difference is often large and a lot of the social democrat policies are much closer to the conservative policies than the socialist ones.Of course one can debate politics endlessly but my opinion ( as a Norwegian AC voting for FrP , the right-most mainstream party ) is that Arbeiderpartiet ( the social democratic labor party ) is to the right ( not left !
) of for example the current US executive administration .
Arbeiderpartiet also has the history of being a staunch opponent to Soviet communism ( in particular through the recently deceased Haakon Lie http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haakon \ _Lie [ wikipedia.org ] who was a political juggernaut ) and Arbeiderpartiet was a dependable supporter of NATO during the cold war ( and now ) .
With regard to NATO even the socialists ( a party called Sosialistisk Venstreparti ) have recently begun relaxing their attitude of opposition , leaving only ( some/most ) communists in opposition to continued membership.That said and while I do n't share their ideology most Norwegian socialists and communists are sensible people as well as great individuals .
Very few of them are anything like the continental or American socialists/communists.The former leader of FrP ( Carl Ivar Hagen ) with " glimt i   ye " ( " a sparkle in the eye " , i.e .
with humor ) admitted that everyone in Norway himself included is a social democrat to some degree.Norway and Norwegians are simply too different : ) whether we like it or not ( ref .
: anderledeslandet trans .
: " different-land " ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Social democrats not socialists, the difference is often large and a lot of the social democrat policies are much closer to the conservative policies than the socialist ones.Of course one can debate politics endlessly but my opinion (as a Norwegian AC voting for FrP, the right-most mainstream party) is that Arbeiderpartiet (the social democratic labor party) is to the right (not left!
) of for example the current US executive administration.
Arbeiderpartiet also has the history of being a staunch opponent to Soviet communism (in particular through the recently deceased Haakon Lie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haakon\_Lie [wikipedia.org] who was a political juggernaut) and Arbeiderpartiet was a dependable supporter of NATO during the cold war (and now).
With regard to NATO even the socialists (a party called Sosialistisk Venstreparti) have recently begun relaxing their attitude of opposition, leaving only (some/most) communists in opposition to continued membership.That said and while I don't share their ideology most Norwegian socialists and communists are sensible people as well as great individuals.
Very few of them are anything like the continental or American socialists/communists.The former leader of FrP (Carl Ivar Hagen) with "glimt i Ãye" ("a sparkle in the eye", i.e.
with humor) admitted that everyone in Norway himself included is a social democrat to some degree.Norway and Norwegians are simply too different :) whether we like it or not (ref.
: anderledeslandet trans.
: "different-land").</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28442093</id>
	<title>gnaa recruiting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245783720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.gnaa.us/" title="www.gnaa.us" rel="nofollow">8==C=O=C=K=S=L=A=P==D~~</a> [www.gnaa.us] cockslap to dirty pirates join GNAA</htmltext>
<tokenext>8 = = C = O = C = K = S = L = A = P = = D ~ ~ [ www.gnaa.us ] cockslap to dirty pirates join GNAA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>8==C=O=C=K=S=L=A=P==D~~ [www.gnaa.us] cockslap to dirty pirates join GNAA</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28441793</id>
	<title>Suck it Jews</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245782760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your Jewish extortion by lawsuit bullshit isn't going to fly in Norway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your Jewish extortion by lawsuit bullshit is n't going to fly in Norway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your Jewish extortion by lawsuit bullshit isn't going to fly in Norway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28450385</id>
	<title>Re:Election year</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245838380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah but the "green-red" coalition (Ap, SV, Sp) led by the social democrats (Ap) will get the boot in this election if only the conservatives (H) and centrists (V, Krf) can stop fooling themselves and open up for government cooperation with the liberal/libertarian-conservatives (FrP).</p><p>Anyway Trond Giske has always been something of a fool --or if fool is too harsh a word then something of an apparatchik <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparatchik" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparatchik</a> [wikipedia.org]-- but in this case a useful one as he has successfully alienated at least some young voters (and young people here often tend towards voting right or right-centrist rather than left).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah but the " green-red " coalition ( Ap , SV , Sp ) led by the social democrats ( Ap ) will get the boot in this election if only the conservatives ( H ) and centrists ( V , Krf ) can stop fooling themselves and open up for government cooperation with the liberal/libertarian-conservatives ( FrP ) .Anyway Trond Giske has always been something of a fool --or if fool is too harsh a word then something of an apparatchik http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparatchik [ wikipedia.org ] -- but in this case a useful one as he has successfully alienated at least some young voters ( and young people here often tend towards voting right or right-centrist rather than left ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah but the "green-red" coalition (Ap, SV, Sp) led by the social democrats (Ap) will get the boot in this election if only the conservatives (H) and centrists (V, Krf) can stop fooling themselves and open up for government cooperation with the liberal/libertarian-conservatives (FrP).Anyway Trond Giske has always been something of a fool --or if fool is too harsh a word then something of an apparatchik http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparatchik [wikipedia.org]-- but in this case a useful one as he has successfully alienated at least some young voters (and young people here often tend towards voting right or right-centrist rather than left).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28443205</id>
	<title>Re:Half-right...</title>
	<author>s0l1dsnak3123</author>
	<datestamp>1245787500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Britain enjoy raping it's citizens of their privacy. Take a look at the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">echelon project</a> [wikipedia.org], for example.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Britain enjoy raping it 's citizens of their privacy .
Take a look at the echelon project [ wikipedia.org ] , for example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Britain enjoy raping it's citizens of their privacy.
Take a look at the echelon project [wikipedia.org], for example.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28445217</id>
	<title>Re:So, for the Norwegian Slashdotters:</title>
	<author>Wheely</author>
	<datestamp>1245751260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Norwegians think it&#194;s a hard language to learn but it&#194;s construction is largely the same as English.  Obviously it has weird constructs (like indicating "the" twice if there&#194;s a adjective describing a noun but not if there isn&#194;t - wtf?) but it isn&#194;t madly different than English.  It is surprisingy imprecise compared to English though which makes it easier to learn than it might be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Norwegians think it   s a hard language to learn but it   s construction is largely the same as English .
Obviously it has weird constructs ( like indicating " the " twice if there   s a adjective describing a noun but not if there isn   t - wtf ?
) but it isn   t madly different than English .
It is surprisingy imprecise compared to English though which makes it easier to learn than it might be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Norwegians think itÂs a hard language to learn but itÂs construction is largely the same as English.
Obviously it has weird constructs (like indicating "the" twice if thereÂs a adjective describing a noun but not if there isnÂt - wtf?
) but it isnÂt madly different than English.
It is surprisingy imprecise compared to English though which makes it easier to learn than it might be.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28451139</id>
	<title>Re:Half-right...</title>
	<author>KingBenny</author>
	<datestamp>1245850200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You should really take a look at the laws that are being passed in Germany and the laws that the president-king is trying to pass in France. Norway putting it down like this is a bright day for democracy and free speech in Europe. And yea i almost forgot, GB isnt all that good when it comes to respecting privacy either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You should really take a look at the laws that are being passed in Germany and the laws that the president-king is trying to pass in France .
Norway putting it down like this is a bright day for democracy and free speech in Europe .
And yea i almost forgot , GB isnt all that good when it comes to respecting privacy either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should really take a look at the laws that are being passed in Germany and the laws that the president-king is trying to pass in France.
Norway putting it down like this is a bright day for democracy and free speech in Europe.
And yea i almost forgot, GB isnt all that good when it comes to respecting privacy either.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1652251.28450047</id>
	<title>Re:It's not fair!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245876120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nah, we have the most beautiful women in the world.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/Sweden</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah , we have the most beautiful women in the world .
/Sweden</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah, we have the most beautiful women in the world.
/Sweden</sentencetext>
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