<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_22_1714202</id>
	<title>Intel Demos Wireless "Resonant" Recharging</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1245691560000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/" rel="nofollow">Al</a> writes <i>"Last Thursday researchers from Intel demonstrated <a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/22906/">a way to recharge electronics from about meter away</a> using a 'resonant' magnetic field. At an event held at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, the researchers showed off a pair of iPod speakers connected to a 30-centimeter-wide copper coil that received power from a similar, but larger, copper coil about a meter away. The recharging technique relies on a phenomenon called resonant coupling, in which objects can exchange energy when tuned to resonate at the same frequency. A similar approach was <a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/18836/page1/">developed by researchers at MIT in 2007</a>, and spun off into a company called <a href="http://www.witricity.com/">WiTricity</a>. This company has already developed a few products that use resonant coupling to recharge, including a car battery."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Al writes " Last Thursday researchers from Intel demonstrated a way to recharge electronics from about meter away using a 'resonant ' magnetic field .
At an event held at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View , the researchers showed off a pair of iPod speakers connected to a 30-centimeter-wide copper coil that received power from a similar , but larger , copper coil about a meter away .
The recharging technique relies on a phenomenon called resonant coupling , in which objects can exchange energy when tuned to resonate at the same frequency .
A similar approach was developed by researchers at MIT in 2007 , and spun off into a company called WiTricity .
This company has already developed a few products that use resonant coupling to recharge , including a car battery .
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<sentencetext>Al writes "Last Thursday researchers from Intel demonstrated a way to recharge electronics from about meter away using a 'resonant' magnetic field.
At an event held at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, the researchers showed off a pair of iPod speakers connected to a 30-centimeter-wide copper coil that received power from a similar, but larger, copper coil about a meter away.
The recharging technique relies on a phenomenon called resonant coupling, in which objects can exchange energy when tuned to resonate at the same frequency.
A similar approach was developed by researchers at MIT in 2007, and spun off into a company called WiTricity.
This company has already developed a few products that use resonant coupling to recharge, including a car battery.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425895</id>
	<title>I see a lot of...</title>
	<author>seramar</author>
	<datestamp>1245698340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I see a lot of you saying things like, "big deal," "this idea sucks," "just use batteries," etc. As though the current implementation is the final version of this technology. I'm surprised that, on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. of all places, you guys aren't thrilled that this implies in the near future you won't even notice this technology... it ought to just work.

Instead you're all bashing it and claiming it's a bad/stupid idea and implying they ought to just scrap the whole project.

I say - keep working on it, no matter how ugly those coils are, because I know sooner or later, I won't even see the coils anymore.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I see a lot of you saying things like , " big deal , " " this idea sucks , " " just use batteries , " etc .
As though the current implementation is the final version of this technology .
I 'm surprised that , on / .
of all places , you guys are n't thrilled that this implies in the near future you wo n't even notice this technology... it ought to just work .
Instead you 're all bashing it and claiming it 's a bad/stupid idea and implying they ought to just scrap the whole project .
I say - keep working on it , no matter how ugly those coils are , because I know sooner or later , I wo n't even see the coils anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see a lot of you saying things like, "big deal," "this idea sucks," "just use batteries," etc.
As though the current implementation is the final version of this technology.
I'm surprised that, on /.
of all places, you guys aren't thrilled that this implies in the near future you won't even notice this technology... it ought to just work.
Instead you're all bashing it and claiming it's a bad/stupid idea and implying they ought to just scrap the whole project.
I say - keep working on it, no matter how ugly those coils are, because I know sooner or later, I won't even see the coils anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425595</id>
	<title>Dang!</title>
	<author>NES HQ</author>
	<datestamp>1245697140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess we're going to have to stop using those 'wireless power' jokes that pop up whenever we come across equipment that's been unplugged!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess we 're going to have to stop using those 'wireless power ' jokes that pop up whenever we come across equipment that 's been unplugged !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess we're going to have to stop using those 'wireless power' jokes that pop up whenever we come across equipment that's been unplugged!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28438507</id>
	<title>Cost!</title>
	<author>KiwiCanuck</author>
	<datestamp>1245770400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>80\% efficiency looks good on paper. However, will energy stay cheap such that one can accept a reduced efficiency? This would work wonders on large scale. Electric cars that don't need a huge battery packs. Just some ultra caps..</htmltext>
<tokenext>80 \ % efficiency looks good on paper .
However , will energy stay cheap such that one can accept a reduced efficiency ?
This would work wonders on large scale .
Electric cars that do n't need a huge battery packs .
Just some ultra caps. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>80\% efficiency looks good on paper.
However, will energy stay cheap such that one can accept a reduced efficiency?
This would work wonders on large scale.
Electric cars that don't need a huge battery packs.
Just some ultra caps..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426753</id>
	<title>Re:Oh this is going to look cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245701520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not only is it completely impractical, not only it is not original, another much more practical contact-free charging method has been in widespread use for over 10 years.  Inductance charging is reasonably efficient and very handy for waterproofing rechargeable devices, like my <a href="http://www.thegourmetdepotco.com/store/store\_details.asp?item=5324" title="thegourmetdepotco.com">Panasonic shaver</a> [thegourmetdepotco.com] (link to charger image).  Not nearly the range of "resonant charging", but all the other advantages apply, and no tumors or pacemaker failures.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only is it completely impractical , not only it is not original , another much more practical contact-free charging method has been in widespread use for over 10 years .
Inductance charging is reasonably efficient and very handy for waterproofing rechargeable devices , like my Panasonic shaver [ thegourmetdepotco.com ] ( link to charger image ) .
Not nearly the range of " resonant charging " , but all the other advantages apply , and no tumors or pacemaker failures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only is it completely impractical, not only it is not original, another much more practical contact-free charging method has been in widespread use for over 10 years.
Inductance charging is reasonably efficient and very handy for waterproofing rechargeable devices, like my Panasonic shaver [thegourmetdepotco.com] (link to charger image).
Not nearly the range of "resonant charging", but all the other advantages apply, and no tumors or pacemaker failures.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425359</id>
	<title>Re:Oh this is going to look cool</title>
	<author>mehrotra.akash</author>
	<datestamp>1245696360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of these things?</p><p>that would wipe out every credit card in the neighborhood, not to mention HDD's and CRT's</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of these things ? that would wipe out every credit card in the neighborhood , not to mention HDD 's and CRT 's</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of these things?that would wipe out every credit card in the neighborhood, not to mention HDD's and CRT's</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425071</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425561</id>
	<title>We need a standard for this</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1245697020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
There are at least four schemes for short-range wireless power transmission around.  This needs to be standardized so it can be deployed.
</p><p>
The very short range ones, which couple a tabletop pad to a device on it, would be most useful.  All the little stuff that needs recharging should be on the same system, with recharging pads in bedroom, office, hotel room, car, airline tray table, Starbucks, etc.  Unless the players get together and agree on a standard, this is going nowhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are at least four schemes for short-range wireless power transmission around .
This needs to be standardized so it can be deployed .
The very short range ones , which couple a tabletop pad to a device on it , would be most useful .
All the little stuff that needs recharging should be on the same system , with recharging pads in bedroom , office , hotel room , car , airline tray table , Starbucks , etc .
Unless the players get together and agree on a standard , this is going nowhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
There are at least four schemes for short-range wireless power transmission around.
This needs to be standardized so it can be deployed.
The very short range ones, which couple a tabletop pad to a device on it, would be most useful.
All the little stuff that needs recharging should be on the same system, with recharging pads in bedroom, office, hotel room, car, airline tray table, Starbucks, etc.
Unless the players get together and agree on a standard, this is going nowhere.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425925</id>
	<title>Re:Pacemakers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245698460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeeehhaaaawww!!! My fucking ass is on fire, ya'll! Mother fucking hot wings messin' with ma hemorrhoids again</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeeehhaaaawww ! ! !
My fucking ass is on fire , ya 'll !
Mother fucking hot wings messin ' with ma hemorrhoids again</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeeehhaaaawww!!!
My fucking ass is on fire, ya'll!
Mother fucking hot wings messin' with ma hemorrhoids again</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425023</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28436043</id>
	<title>Re:Efficiency?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245748380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And another question, where is this energy lost to? Will all the objects in the proximity of the charger heat up?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And another question , where is this energy lost to ?
Will all the objects in the proximity of the charger heat up ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And another question, where is this energy lost to?
Will all the objects in the proximity of the charger heat up?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425303</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426647</id>
	<title>Re:Nicola Tesla</title>
	<author>CarpetShark</author>
	<datestamp>1245701160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Tesla had an iPod back then, he must've been really into his music.  I guess that finally explains why he started <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla\_(band)" title="wikipedia.org">The Band</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Tesla had an iPod back then , he must 've been really into his music .
I guess that finally explains why he started The Band [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Tesla had an iPod back then, he must've been really into his music.
I guess that finally explains why he started The Band [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425125</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425311</id>
	<title>We owe thanks to....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245696240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nikola Tesla and that crazy discovery of wireless energy transfer. Next time you power up your gizmo (via AC to DC conversion) raise a glass to the man who started it all!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nikola Tesla and that crazy discovery of wireless energy transfer .
Next time you power up your gizmo ( via AC to DC conversion ) raise a glass to the man who started it all !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nikola Tesla and that crazy discovery of wireless energy transfer.
Next time you power up your gizmo (via AC to DC conversion) raise a glass to the man who started it all!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28432413</id>
	<title>Re:power consumption</title>
	<author>BillX</author>
	<datestamp>1245678540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, magnets around CRTs (even little ones) are bad because they will semi-permanently magnetize any ferrous bits inside the CRT (or surroundings), slightly deflecting the output of the electron guns. (Or in case of big magnets, deform/rip the shadow mask off.) The amount of magnetization does not have to be much - on a color CRT, you only have to collectively kick a pile of these electrons over about one phosphor dot's worth (some microns) to completely screw up the colors.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , magnets around CRTs ( even little ones ) are bad because they will semi-permanently magnetize any ferrous bits inside the CRT ( or surroundings ) , slightly deflecting the output of the electron guns .
( Or in case of big magnets , deform/rip the shadow mask off .
) The amount of magnetization does not have to be much - on a color CRT , you only have to collectively kick a pile of these electrons over about one phosphor dot 's worth ( some microns ) to completely screw up the colors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, magnets around CRTs (even little ones) are bad because they will semi-permanently magnetize any ferrous bits inside the CRT (or surroundings), slightly deflecting the output of the electron guns.
(Or in case of big magnets, deform/rip the shadow mask off.
) The amount of magnetization does not have to be much - on a color CRT, you only have to collectively kick a pile of these electrons over about one phosphor dot's worth (some microns) to completely screw up the colors.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28427617</id>
	<title>Re:power consumption</title>
	<author>IorDMUX</author>
	<datestamp>1245703980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>what happens if you place a HDD, or your phone contains a HDD and is charged using this method, wont the magnetic field damage the magnetic media??</p></div><p>Most HDD's are pretty well shielded, nowadays.  Remember also that the receiving coil (in this case) is a 707 cm^2 wire coil, while the surface area of the hard drive in the magnetic field is likely no more than a few cm^2.  (The energy absorbed by an object in this situation is proportional to its surface area in the plane perpendicular to the electric field, among other things.)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>does the power consumption increase or decrease based on the number of receiving coils??</p></div><p>The power consumption in the primary would increase.  Given the case of two coupled inductors (the two coils seen here), a mutual inductance couples the two and a "reflected impedance" is seen on each of them due to the effect of the other.  In other words, if the receiving coil was consuming large amounts of power, a significant series load would appear on the transmitting coil, causing either a drop in the voltage and the transmitted power (if you hold the power consumed by the transmitting coil constant) or an increase in the consumed power (if you hold the transmitted power constant).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>what happens if you place a HDD , or your phone contains a HDD and is charged using this method , wont the magnetic field damage the magnetic media ?
? Most HDD 's are pretty well shielded , nowadays .
Remember also that the receiving coil ( in this case ) is a 707 cm ^ 2 wire coil , while the surface area of the hard drive in the magnetic field is likely no more than a few cm ^ 2 .
( The energy absorbed by an object in this situation is proportional to its surface area in the plane perpendicular to the electric field , among other things .
) does the power consumption increase or decrease based on the number of receiving coils ?
? The power consumption in the primary would increase .
Given the case of two coupled inductors ( the two coils seen here ) , a mutual inductance couples the two and a " reflected impedance " is seen on each of them due to the effect of the other .
In other words , if the receiving coil was consuming large amounts of power , a significant series load would appear on the transmitting coil , causing either a drop in the voltage and the transmitted power ( if you hold the power consumed by the transmitting coil constant ) or an increase in the consumed power ( if you hold the transmitted power constant ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what happens if you place a HDD, or your phone contains a HDD and is charged using this method, wont the magnetic field damage the magnetic media?
?Most HDD's are pretty well shielded, nowadays.
Remember also that the receiving coil (in this case) is a 707 cm^2 wire coil, while the surface area of the hard drive in the magnetic field is likely no more than a few cm^2.
(The energy absorbed by an object in this situation is proportional to its surface area in the plane perpendicular to the electric field, among other things.
)does the power consumption increase or decrease based on the number of receiving coils?
?The power consumption in the primary would increase.
Given the case of two coupled inductors (the two coils seen here), a mutual inductance couples the two and a "reflected impedance" is seen on each of them due to the effect of the other.
In other words, if the receiving coil was consuming large amounts of power, a significant series load would appear on the transmitting coil, causing either a drop in the voltage and the transmitted power (if you hold the power consumed by the transmitting coil constant) or an increase in the consumed power (if you hold the transmitted power constant).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28430613</id>
	<title>Re:Pacemakers?</title>
	<author>David Gould</author>
	<datestamp>1245671340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you think replacing a battery on an iPhone is hard, try replacing your own pacemaker battery.</p></div><p>And, just to drive in the point, make sure you can do it <a href="http://www.funny.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Funny.woa/wa/funny?fn=C5UYI&amp;Funny\_Jokes=Doctor\_Vs\_Mechanic" title="funny.com">with the engine running</a> [funny.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you think replacing a battery on an iPhone is hard , try replacing your own pacemaker battery.And , just to drive in the point , make sure you can do it with the engine running [ funny.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you think replacing a battery on an iPhone is hard, try replacing your own pacemaker battery.And, just to drive in the point, make sure you can do it with the engine running [funny.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425135</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425397</id>
	<title>Similar technology already in Wacom tablets</title>
	<author>Captain Spam</author>
	<datestamp>1245696480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't resonant coupling what Wacom tablets use to both power and communicate with their styluses and pucks (kinda-sorta tablet mice)?  I know it's not technically "charging" either of them, per se, but it IS powering them, and it's done by resonance coupling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't resonant coupling what Wacom tablets use to both power and communicate with their styluses and pucks ( kinda-sorta tablet mice ) ?
I know it 's not technically " charging " either of them , per se , but it IS powering them , and it 's done by resonance coupling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't resonant coupling what Wacom tablets use to both power and communicate with their styluses and pucks (kinda-sorta tablet mice)?
I know it's not technically "charging" either of them, per se, but it IS powering them, and it's done by resonance coupling.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425023</id>
	<title>Pacemakers?</title>
	<author>sexconker</author>
	<datestamp>1245695340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pacemakers lol?</p><p>Seriously, this is nothing more than a simple application of a simple science experiment.</p><p>Wireless fields / broadcasts are a joke, and until we change the laws of physics, always will be.  (Directed transmissions are not a joke.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pacemakers lol ? Seriously , this is nothing more than a simple application of a simple science experiment.Wireless fields / broadcasts are a joke , and until we change the laws of physics , always will be .
( Directed transmissions are not a joke .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pacemakers lol?Seriously, this is nothing more than a simple application of a simple science experiment.Wireless fields / broadcasts are a joke, and until we change the laws of physics, always will be.
(Directed transmissions are not a joke.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426167</id>
	<title>charging dish</title>
	<author>wren337</author>
	<datestamp>1245699360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can imagine a dish or plate on top of your dresser where you can throw your ipod, phone etc at night and it charges without having to plug it in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can imagine a dish or plate on top of your dresser where you can throw your ipod , phone etc at night and it charges without having to plug it in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can imagine a dish or plate on top of your dresser where you can throw your ipod, phone etc at night and it charges without having to plug it in.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426201</id>
	<title>Begining baby steps of a new technology.</title>
	<author>ACMENEWSLLC</author>
	<datestamp>1245699540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So here is what I imagine.   You know how a generator works, right?   <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical\_generator" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical\_generator</a> [wikipedia.org]   Spinning copper wire around a shaft generating a current.   And something has to spin the shaft.</p><p>With this, the idea is that the generator is something resonating.  e.g. It is just moving back and forth.    So you make these very small, and put them inline with a battery.   If you come within a resonate field, your batteries are automatically charged.</p><p>There is a lot of waste.   It's never going to be as energy efficient to plug one of field generators into a wall to charge up, versus an electrical cord.   However, what if you use other power sources?  Solar for example.   Plug in a resonate field generator into a solar source, and have it generate this field all day long.   You come home, leave your cell phone and Laptop unused on your desk, and by morning it is charged.   That's the idea, at least.   Baby first steps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So here is what I imagine .
You know how a generator works , right ?
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical \ _generator [ wikipedia.org ] Spinning copper wire around a shaft generating a current .
And something has to spin the shaft.With this , the idea is that the generator is something resonating .
e.g. It is just moving back and forth .
So you make these very small , and put them inline with a battery .
If you come within a resonate field , your batteries are automatically charged.There is a lot of waste .
It 's never going to be as energy efficient to plug one of field generators into a wall to charge up , versus an electrical cord .
However , what if you use other power sources ?
Solar for example .
Plug in a resonate field generator into a solar source , and have it generate this field all day long .
You come home , leave your cell phone and Laptop unused on your desk , and by morning it is charged .
That 's the idea , at least .
Baby first steps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So here is what I imagine.
You know how a generator works, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical\_generator [wikipedia.org]   Spinning copper wire around a shaft generating a current.
And something has to spin the shaft.With this, the idea is that the generator is something resonating.
e.g. It is just moving back and forth.
So you make these very small, and put them inline with a battery.
If you come within a resonate field, your batteries are automatically charged.There is a lot of waste.
It's never going to be as energy efficient to plug one of field generators into a wall to charge up, versus an electrical cord.
However, what if you use other power sources?
Solar for example.
Plug in a resonate field generator into a solar source, and have it generate this field all day long.
You come home, leave your cell phone and Laptop unused on your desk, and by morning it is charged.
That's the idea, at least.
Baby first steps.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28444677</id>
	<title>Re:Nicola Tesla</title>
	<author>theverylastperson</author>
	<datestamp>1245749460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All I did was comment that a comment had been made about Tesla and suddenly I'm a troll. I think it's Edison. He's still trying to keep Nick down. I was merely pointing out the fact that Tesla would come into play on the conversation rather quickly. I looked at some of the other comments after you made yours and you're right, someone isn't a Tesla fan. Of course, I'm still a troll or at least gnarled and bumpy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All I did was comment that a comment had been made about Tesla and suddenly I 'm a troll .
I think it 's Edison .
He 's still trying to keep Nick down .
I was merely pointing out the fact that Tesla would come into play on the conversation rather quickly .
I looked at some of the other comments after you made yours and you 're right , someone is n't a Tesla fan .
Of course , I 'm still a troll or at least gnarled and bumpy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All I did was comment that a comment had been made about Tesla and suddenly I'm a troll.
I think it's Edison.
He's still trying to keep Nick down.
I was merely pointing out the fact that Tesla would come into play on the conversation rather quickly.
I looked at some of the other comments after you made yours and you're right, someone isn't a Tesla fan.
Of course, I'm still a troll or at least gnarled and bumpy.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28444455</id>
	<title>Looks like the secret Intel Police..</title>
	<author>Zarf\_is\_with\_you</author>
	<datestamp>1245748620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
Looks like the secret Intel Police secured the Missing Tesla Documents and have been working on it in secret at these years.

They cant touch me now that the secret is out *&amp;\%#$( NO CARRIER</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like the secret Intel Police secured the Missing Tesla Documents and have been working on it in secret at these years .
They cant touch me now that the secret is out * &amp; \ % # $ ( NO CARRIER</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Looks like the secret Intel Police secured the Missing Tesla Documents and have been working on it in secret at these years.
They cant touch me now that the secret is out *&amp;\%#$( NO CARRIER</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28428871</id>
	<title>Re:Dumb question...</title>
	<author>Falstius</author>
	<datestamp>1245664980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is magnetic coupling taking advantage of the resonant frequency of the system and is strictly a local effect.  Radio's are electromagnetic radiation, which is where electrical and magnetic fields sustain each other will travelling through space indefinitely.  The energy in the oscillation of a radio wave does not decrease with distance, it just gets spread out over a larger area (or absorbed, but that isn't relevant to this).</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is magnetic coupling taking advantage of the resonant frequency of the system and is strictly a local effect .
Radio 's are electromagnetic radiation , which is where electrical and magnetic fields sustain each other will travelling through space indefinitely .
The energy in the oscillation of a radio wave does not decrease with distance , it just gets spread out over a larger area ( or absorbed , but that is n't relevant to this ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is magnetic coupling taking advantage of the resonant frequency of the system and is strictly a local effect.
Radio's are electromagnetic radiation, which is where electrical and magnetic fields sustain each other will travelling through space indefinitely.
The energy in the oscillation of a radio wave does not decrease with distance, it just gets spread out over a larger area (or absorbed, but that isn't relevant to this).</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425083</id>
	<title>Dumb question...</title>
	<author>DoofusOfDeath</author>
	<datestamp>1245695520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't resonant vibration the way <i>tons</i> of energy transfers occur, including plain old radio communication?</p><p>What makes this so novel?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't resonant vibration the way tons of energy transfers occur , including plain old radio communication ? What makes this so novel ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't resonant vibration the way tons of energy transfers occur, including plain old radio communication?What makes this so novel?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28427583</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing new here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245703920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tesla already has the patent for this.  It's ether an air gap transformer (my soniccare tooth brush has one.  Charges with no connecting wires.) or is a high frequency transmitter/receiver.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tesla already has the patent for this .
It 's ether an air gap transformer ( my soniccare tooth brush has one .
Charges with no connecting wires .
) or is a high frequency transmitter/receiver .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tesla already has the patent for this.
It's ether an air gap transformer (my soniccare tooth brush has one.
Charges with no connecting wires.
) or is a high frequency transmitter/receiver.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426233</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28429345</id>
	<title>thinkgeek -- Wireless Extension Cord.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245666600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How does this compare?<br>thinkgeek already has a wireless extension cord (110v A/C)  if Im gonna fry something, use microwave!</p><p>link: http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/wec.shtml<br>image: http://images.thinkgeek.com/products/zoom/wec.jpg</p><p>pay no attention to the fact this was an april fools joke originally... Since I believe science fiction is based on reality (though not always implemented as such) this must be real too!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How does this compare ? thinkgeek already has a wireless extension cord ( 110v A/C ) if Im gon na fry something , use microwave ! link : http : //www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/wec.shtmlimage : http : //images.thinkgeek.com/products/zoom/wec.jpgpay no attention to the fact this was an april fools joke originally... Since I believe science fiction is based on reality ( though not always implemented as such ) this must be real too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How does this compare?thinkgeek already has a wireless extension cord (110v A/C)  if Im gonna fry something, use microwave!link: http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/wec.shtmlimage: http://images.thinkgeek.com/products/zoom/wec.jpgpay no attention to the fact this was an april fools joke originally... Since I believe science fiction is based on reality (though not always implemented as such) this must be real too!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425823</id>
	<title>Tesla would be proud.</title>
	<author>Kotoku</author>
	<datestamp>1245698040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tesla would be so proud, many years later we are finally honing and putting to use technology that was before it's time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tesla would be so proud , many years later we are finally honing and putting to use technology that was before it 's time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tesla would be so proud, many years later we are finally honing and putting to use technology that was before it's time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28433911</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing new here</title>
	<author>neonsignal</author>
	<datestamp>1245686760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>reference from wikipedia:<br>
J C Schuder. "Powering an artificial heart: Birth of the inductively coupled-radio frequency system in 1960". <i>Artificial Organs</i>. Vol 26, no 11, pp 909-915, 2002.</htmltext>
<tokenext>reference from wikipedia : J C Schuder .
" Powering an artificial heart : Birth of the inductively coupled-radio frequency system in 1960 " .
Artificial Organs .
Vol 26 , no 11 , pp 909-915 , 2002 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>reference from wikipedia:
J C Schuder.
"Powering an artificial heart: Birth of the inductively coupled-radio frequency system in 1960".
Artificial Organs.
Vol 26, no 11, pp 909-915, 2002.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28428683</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245664320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gee, we had something similar in 1965 in the form of an electric toothbrush... the primary side of the "transformer" was the A.C. line, the secondary was inside the body of the toothbrush motor body and it recharged every time you put it on the stand.  They increased the efficiency by having a "pole piece" sticking up inside the body of the toothbrush motor when it was in the charging stand, but other than that it was nothing new.</p><p>EMI all over the place just because people don't want to plug something in?  No thanks.  Efficient it ain't.  Safe?  Not for all the credit cards and other magnetic media in your wallet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gee , we had something similar in 1965 in the form of an electric toothbrush... the primary side of the " transformer " was the A.C. line , the secondary was inside the body of the toothbrush motor body and it recharged every time you put it on the stand .
They increased the efficiency by having a " pole piece " sticking up inside the body of the toothbrush motor when it was in the charging stand , but other than that it was nothing new.EMI all over the place just because people do n't want to plug something in ?
No thanks .
Efficient it ai n't .
Safe ? Not for all the credit cards and other magnetic media in your wallet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gee, we had something similar in 1965 in the form of an electric toothbrush... the primary side of the "transformer" was the A.C. line, the secondary was inside the body of the toothbrush motor body and it recharged every time you put it on the stand.
They increased the efficiency by having a "pole piece" sticking up inside the body of the toothbrush motor when it was in the charging stand, but other than that it was nothing new.EMI all over the place just because people don't want to plug something in?
No thanks.
Efficient it ain't.
Safe?  Not for all the credit cards and other magnetic media in your wallet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425935</id>
	<title>New Palm Pre does this now</title>
	<author>Dcnjoe60</author>
	<datestamp>1245698460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The New Palm Pre does this now, just not across a large distance.  The Pre has the alternate charger that you just place your Pre on (no wires to hook up or plug in to the Pre itself) and it charges through the back of the phone.  Pretty cool, actually.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The New Palm Pre does this now , just not across a large distance .
The Pre has the alternate charger that you just place your Pre on ( no wires to hook up or plug in to the Pre itself ) and it charges through the back of the phone .
Pretty cool , actually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The New Palm Pre does this now, just not across a large distance.
The Pre has the alternate charger that you just place your Pre on (no wires to hook up or plug in to the Pre itself) and it charges through the back of the phone.
Pretty cool, actually.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425625</id>
	<title>Intel demonstrates wireless power for the home</title>
	<author>David Gerard</author>
	<datestamp>1245697200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A future without batteries -- no need to charge phones or MP3 players, or even electric cars. No lost phone chargers, no running out of power sockets. Intel chief technology officer Justin Rattner demonstrated a <a href="http://notnews.today.com/2008/08/23/intel-demonstrates-wireless-power-for-the-home/" title="today.com" rel="nofollow">Wireless Energy Resonant Link</a> [today.com] as he spoke at the annual Intel developers forum in San Francisco yesterday.

</p><p>Rattner demonstrated this by causing his ears to light up at 60 watts of power a yard from a power transmitter operated by his assistant Igor. Only four journalists were incinerated when the power earthed through them from his fingertips.

</p><p>Rattner reassured us that pumping kilowatts of power around the home through magnetic induction power is absolutely harmless. "The human body is not affected by magnetic fields," he said as one journalist with a pacemaker collapsed and another with a knee replacement watched his leg catch fire. "There's no danger whatsoever from it, any more than there is from mobile phones cooking your brain, microwave leakage blinding you, chemical waste unraveling all the DNA in your balls or statistical clusters of kids with cancer wherever high-tension power lines run overhead. Asbestos and thalidomide were horribly slandered in their day too."

</p><p>"Of course, Nikola Tesla did it first in 1899," said enthusiast Albert Tedious-Anorak, 54, of Little Boring. "I detailed this at length on Wikipedia, but they refused to believe the value of my revelations on this matter due to a conspiracy of Edison fans amongst the site administrators."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A future without batteries -- no need to charge phones or MP3 players , or even electric cars .
No lost phone chargers , no running out of power sockets .
Intel chief technology officer Justin Rattner demonstrated a Wireless Energy Resonant Link [ today.com ] as he spoke at the annual Intel developers forum in San Francisco yesterday .
Rattner demonstrated this by causing his ears to light up at 60 watts of power a yard from a power transmitter operated by his assistant Igor .
Only four journalists were incinerated when the power earthed through them from his fingertips .
Rattner reassured us that pumping kilowatts of power around the home through magnetic induction power is absolutely harmless .
" The human body is not affected by magnetic fields , " he said as one journalist with a pacemaker collapsed and another with a knee replacement watched his leg catch fire .
" There 's no danger whatsoever from it , any more than there is from mobile phones cooking your brain , microwave leakage blinding you , chemical waste unraveling all the DNA in your balls or statistical clusters of kids with cancer wherever high-tension power lines run overhead .
Asbestos and thalidomide were horribly slandered in their day too .
" " Of course , Nikola Tesla did it first in 1899 , " said enthusiast Albert Tedious-Anorak , 54 , of Little Boring .
" I detailed this at length on Wikipedia , but they refused to believe the value of my revelations on this matter due to a conspiracy of Edison fans amongst the site administrators .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A future without batteries -- no need to charge phones or MP3 players, or even electric cars.
No lost phone chargers, no running out of power sockets.
Intel chief technology officer Justin Rattner demonstrated a Wireless Energy Resonant Link [today.com] as he spoke at the annual Intel developers forum in San Francisco yesterday.
Rattner demonstrated this by causing his ears to light up at 60 watts of power a yard from a power transmitter operated by his assistant Igor.
Only four journalists were incinerated when the power earthed through them from his fingertips.
Rattner reassured us that pumping kilowatts of power around the home through magnetic induction power is absolutely harmless.
"The human body is not affected by magnetic fields," he said as one journalist with a pacemaker collapsed and another with a knee replacement watched his leg catch fire.
"There's no danger whatsoever from it, any more than there is from mobile phones cooking your brain, microwave leakage blinding you, chemical waste unraveling all the DNA in your balls or statistical clusters of kids with cancer wherever high-tension power lines run overhead.
Asbestos and thalidomide were horribly slandered in their day too.
"

"Of course, Nikola Tesla did it first in 1899," said enthusiast Albert Tedious-Anorak, 54, of Little Boring.
"I detailed this at length on Wikipedia, but they refused to believe the value of my revelations on this matter due to a conspiracy of Edison fans amongst the site administrators.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28427109</id>
	<title>Re:Pacemakers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245702660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nikola Tesla invented this concept first. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola\_Tesla</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nikola Tesla invented this concept first .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola \ _Tesla</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nikola Tesla invented this concept first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola\_Tesla</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426173</id>
	<title>Nikola Tesla, thou art avenged!</title>
	<author>crmartin</author>
	<datestamp>1245699360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmm.  Resonant coupling, magnetic fields, wireless power transmission, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe\_Tower#The\_transmission\_of\_radiant\_energy" title="wikipedia.org">where have I heard this before</a> [wikipedia.org]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm .
Resonant coupling , magnetic fields , wireless power transmission , where have I heard this before [ wikipedia.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm.
Resonant coupling, magnetic fields, wireless power transmission, where have I heard this before [wikipedia.org]?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28433109</id>
	<title>Re:Efficiency?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245681960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I attended a talk given by Marin Soljacic. This is the same method. The first demonstrations were roughly 50\% efficient, don't know how much they've improved since then, but the technology itself is theoretically very (~90\%) effiicient.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I attended a talk given by Marin Soljacic .
This is the same method .
The first demonstrations were roughly 50 \ % efficient , do n't know how much they 've improved since then , but the technology itself is theoretically very ( ~ 90 \ % ) effiicient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I attended a talk given by Marin Soljacic.
This is the same method.
The first demonstrations were roughly 50\% efficient, don't know how much they've improved since then, but the technology itself is theoretically very (~90\%) effiicient.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425551</id>
	<title>Nothing new</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245696960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is nothing new, "1894: Nikola Tesla wirelessly lights up vacuum tubes"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is nothing new , " 1894 : Nikola Tesla wirelessly lights up vacuum tubes "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is nothing new, "1894: Nikola Tesla wirelessly lights up vacuum tubes"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425183</id>
	<title>Test for other sources</title>
	<author>Lev13than</author>
	<datestamp>1245695820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did they ensure that the iPod speakers were properly shielded against RDF interference? Now that Jobs is getting his strength back, I fully expect that Apple devices will discard with batteries completely and just feed off his sheer willpower.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did they ensure that the iPod speakers were properly shielded against RDF interference ?
Now that Jobs is getting his strength back , I fully expect that Apple devices will discard with batteries completely and just feed off his sheer willpower .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did they ensure that the iPod speakers were properly shielded against RDF interference?
Now that Jobs is getting his strength back, I fully expect that Apple devices will discard with batteries completely and just feed off his sheer willpower.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28435951</id>
	<title>Exposure to EM radiation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245790380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The people behind these resonant antenna ideas usually seem to ignore the effects of large electromagnetic fields on biological tissue. It is a risk to have a rf magnetic field of say 30 microteslas at f &gt; 20 MHz in a region with human access. There are very strict rules of the exposure limits based on the ICNIRP guidelines</p><p>http://www.icnirp.de/documents/emfgdl.pdf</p><p>The people developing magnetic resonance imaging devices (MRI) have struggled with the issues of induced rf currents and rf heating (SAR) for a long time. They are using similar frequencies but lower average rf magnetic fields because of the safety limitations. Kinda funny seeing this kind of hype where the safety point of view is completely forgotten. Maybe someone just rewrote the Maxwell equations...</p><p>Think what happens when a microwave oven leaks rf. Remember the discussions of "dangerously high" rf radiation levels from cell phones. It is the same mine field here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The people behind these resonant antenna ideas usually seem to ignore the effects of large electromagnetic fields on biological tissue .
It is a risk to have a rf magnetic field of say 30 microteslas at f &gt; 20 MHz in a region with human access .
There are very strict rules of the exposure limits based on the ICNIRP guidelineshttp : //www.icnirp.de/documents/emfgdl.pdfThe people developing magnetic resonance imaging devices ( MRI ) have struggled with the issues of induced rf currents and rf heating ( SAR ) for a long time .
They are using similar frequencies but lower average rf magnetic fields because of the safety limitations .
Kinda funny seeing this kind of hype where the safety point of view is completely forgotten .
Maybe someone just rewrote the Maxwell equations...Think what happens when a microwave oven leaks rf .
Remember the discussions of " dangerously high " rf radiation levels from cell phones .
It is the same mine field here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The people behind these resonant antenna ideas usually seem to ignore the effects of large electromagnetic fields on biological tissue.
It is a risk to have a rf magnetic field of say 30 microteslas at f &gt; 20 MHz in a region with human access.
There are very strict rules of the exposure limits based on the ICNIRP guidelineshttp://www.icnirp.de/documents/emfgdl.pdfThe people developing magnetic resonance imaging devices (MRI) have struggled with the issues of induced rf currents and rf heating (SAR) for a long time.
They are using similar frequencies but lower average rf magnetic fields because of the safety limitations.
Kinda funny seeing this kind of hype where the safety point of view is completely forgotten.
Maybe someone just rewrote the Maxwell equations...Think what happens when a microwave oven leaks rf.
Remember the discussions of "dangerously high" rf radiation levels from cell phones.
It is the same mine field here.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28427925</id>
	<title>Re:Efficiency?</title>
	<author>Quantumstate</author>
	<datestamp>1245661860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I you RTFA it said 80\% for 1m range.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I you RTFA it said 80 \ % for 1m range .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I you RTFA it said 80\% for 1m range.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426089</id>
	<title>got your crowbar ready?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245699120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope nobody throws a bunch of these off a cliff.</p><p>It could cause a resonance cascade.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope nobody throws a bunch of these off a cliff.It could cause a resonance cascade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope nobody throws a bunch of these off a cliff.It could cause a resonance cascade.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425517</id>
	<title>useful, but dangerous</title>
	<author>Vanderhoth</author>
	<datestamp>1245696900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read about this sort of thing awhile ago. <a href="http://www.pwrmat.com/" title="pwrmat.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pwrmat.com/</a> [pwrmat.com]

There would be some nifty applications, you could build this sort of power distribution system into a wall. Then you just have to be within the proximity of the distributor. It would primarily be a convince/lazy thing, but at least you wouldn't have to worry about your kid putting a fork in a wall socket.

Then again by doing that you could be removing a natural selection factor and end up with even more stupid people that otherwise would have been electrocuted and taken out of the gene pool.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read about this sort of thing awhile ago .
http : //www.pwrmat.com/ [ pwrmat.com ] There would be some nifty applications , you could build this sort of power distribution system into a wall .
Then you just have to be within the proximity of the distributor .
It would primarily be a convince/lazy thing , but at least you would n't have to worry about your kid putting a fork in a wall socket .
Then again by doing that you could be removing a natural selection factor and end up with even more stupid people that otherwise would have been electrocuted and taken out of the gene pool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read about this sort of thing awhile ago.
http://www.pwrmat.com/ [pwrmat.com]

There would be some nifty applications, you could build this sort of power distribution system into a wall.
Then you just have to be within the proximity of the distributor.
It would primarily be a convince/lazy thing, but at least you wouldn't have to worry about your kid putting a fork in a wall socket.
Then again by doing that you could be removing a natural selection factor and end up with even more stupid people that otherwise would have been electrocuted and taken out of the gene pool.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28428255</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing new here</title>
	<author>TheNarrator</author>
	<datestamp>1245663120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These guys developed the same technology too.  They have released commercial products, demoed and won awards at many trade expos and you can even order a developer kit:</p><p><a href="http://www.powercastco.com/" title="powercastco.com">http://www.powercastco.com/</a> [powercastco.com]</p><p>It's amazing the amount of unfounded disbelief and misunderstanding of this technology on this thread.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These guys developed the same technology too .
They have released commercial products , demoed and won awards at many trade expos and you can even order a developer kit : http : //www.powercastco.com/ [ powercastco.com ] It 's amazing the amount of unfounded disbelief and misunderstanding of this technology on this thread .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These guys developed the same technology too.
They have released commercial products, demoed and won awards at many trade expos and you can even order a developer kit:http://www.powercastco.com/ [powercastco.com]It's amazing the amount of unfounded disbelief and misunderstanding of this technology on this thread.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425303</id>
	<title>Efficiency?</title>
	<author>juanergie</author>
	<datestamp>1245696180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anybody familiar with the efficiency of this process? What fraction of the wattage is lost during transfer?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anybody familiar with the efficiency of this process ?
What fraction of the wattage is lost during transfer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anybody familiar with the efficiency of this process?
What fraction of the wattage is lost during transfer?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426749</id>
	<title>Re:Nicola Tesla</title>
	<author>dyingtolive</author>
	<datestamp>1245701460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is a lot of places in here where people mentioning Tesla are getting modded into the dirt.  Is there some Edison fanatic out there with mod points today or is there something I'm missing?  Genuinely asking.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a lot of places in here where people mentioning Tesla are getting modded into the dirt .
Is there some Edison fanatic out there with mod points today or is there something I 'm missing ?
Genuinely asking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a lot of places in here where people mentioning Tesla are getting modded into the dirt.
Is there some Edison fanatic out there with mod points today or is there something I'm missing?
Genuinely asking.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425125</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426137</id>
	<title>No real porn use, so it's on to advertising</title>
	<author>Anti\_Climax</author>
	<datestamp>1245699180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make it cheap enough and combine this with cheap electronic paper and we could have store aisles stocked with animated labels on anything big enough to carry a receiving antenna.</p><p>If you think walking with your child down the gauntlet that is the cereal aisle is bad now...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make it cheap enough and combine this with cheap electronic paper and we could have store aisles stocked with animated labels on anything big enough to carry a receiving antenna.If you think walking with your child down the gauntlet that is the cereal aisle is bad now.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make it cheap enough and combine this with cheap electronic paper and we could have store aisles stocked with animated labels on anything big enough to carry a receiving antenna.If you think walking with your child down the gauntlet that is the cereal aisle is bad now...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425107</id>
	<title>power consumption</title>
	<author>mehrotra.akash</author>
	<datestamp>1245695520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what is the power consumption of the transmitting coil when there is no load coil, also, does the power consumption increase or decrease based on the number of receiving coils??</p><p>and, what happens if you place a HDD, or your phone contains a HDD and is charged using this method, wont the magnetic field damage the magnetic media??</p><p>similarly, magnetic fields can mess up CRT's, try taking a magnet to a CRT screen..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what is the power consumption of the transmitting coil when there is no load coil , also , does the power consumption increase or decrease based on the number of receiving coils ?
? and , what happens if you place a HDD , or your phone contains a HDD and is charged using this method , wont the magnetic field damage the magnetic media ?
? similarly , magnetic fields can mess up CRT 's , try taking a magnet to a CRT screen. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what is the power consumption of the transmitting coil when there is no load coil, also, does the power consumption increase or decrease based on the number of receiving coils?
?and, what happens if you place a HDD, or your phone contains a HDD and is charged using this method, wont the magnetic field damage the magnetic media?
?similarly, magnetic fields can mess up CRT's, try taking a magnet to a CRT screen..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426055</id>
	<title>Induction FTW</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245699000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was a kid, I had an electric toothbrush that charged via induction.  Not the same thing this article is about but it seemed like magic at the time.  Set the plastic toothbrush in its plastic base with no metallic contacts on either and it would charge.  I was just a kid but even I knew you needed conductive material to conduct electricity and plastic wasn't conductive.  (I thought my grandpa was pulling my leg and taking the battery out and charging it at night while I was asleep.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was a kid , I had an electric toothbrush that charged via induction .
Not the same thing this article is about but it seemed like magic at the time .
Set the plastic toothbrush in its plastic base with no metallic contacts on either and it would charge .
I was just a kid but even I knew you needed conductive material to conduct electricity and plastic was n't conductive .
( I thought my grandpa was pulling my leg and taking the battery out and charging it at night while I was asleep .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was a kid, I had an electric toothbrush that charged via induction.
Not the same thing this article is about but it seemed like magic at the time.
Set the plastic toothbrush in its plastic base with no metallic contacts on either and it would charge.
I was just a kid but even I knew you needed conductive material to conduct electricity and plastic wasn't conductive.
(I thought my grandpa was pulling my leg and taking the battery out and charging it at night while I was asleep.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28428521</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing new here</title>
	<author>kpainter</author>
	<datestamp>1245663900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm not sure you can really patent...</p></div><p>I am pretty sure you can.  This is the application of the law of induction to specifically charge a battery.  Besides, from what I have seen, you can patent almost anything.  When I worked for that company, our competitor had patented the concept of using 9 Volts in an implant.  I am serious.  We had to avoid using that specific voltage.  They also had patented the concept of storing the implant settings in an eeprom.  Note that both of these were specific to medical implants.  Not too sure how valid these patents are but they have more money than god and love to sue.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure you can really patent...I am pretty sure you can .
This is the application of the law of induction to specifically charge a battery .
Besides , from what I have seen , you can patent almost anything .
When I worked for that company , our competitor had patented the concept of using 9 Volts in an implant .
I am serious .
We had to avoid using that specific voltage .
They also had patented the concept of storing the implant settings in an eeprom .
Note that both of these were specific to medical implants .
Not too sure how valid these patents are but they have more money than god and love to sue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure you can really patent...I am pretty sure you can.
This is the application of the law of induction to specifically charge a battery.
Besides, from what I have seen, you can patent almost anything.
When I worked for that company, our competitor had patented the concept of using 9 Volts in an implant.
I am serious.
We had to avoid using that specific voltage.
They also had patented the concept of storing the implant settings in an eeprom.
Note that both of these were specific to medical implants.
Not too sure how valid these patents are but they have more money than god and love to sue.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28427531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426409</id>
	<title>oblig HL</title>
	<author>Theodore</author>
	<datestamp>1245700200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I never dreamed I'd see a resonance cascade failure, let alone create one"...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I never dreamed I 'd see a resonance cascade failure , let alone create one " .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I never dreamed I'd see a resonance cascade failure, let alone create one"...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425795</id>
	<title>Hippies afraid of brain tumors will get this banne</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245697980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They already afraid of Cellphones</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They already afraid of Cellphones</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They already afraid of Cellphones</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426171</id>
	<title>Re:Already have wireless power....</title>
	<author>Chyeld</author>
	<datestamp>1245699360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SAMPLE APPLICATION:</p><blockquote><div><p>So when I get home today, I have a 'recharging' station where everything from my Wiimotes to my iPod get set so they can be plugged in and recharged. Each item has its own charger, with accompanying wall wart, and its own cord. I've attempted, in the past, to come up with 'stylist' ways over hiding this mess. LifeHacker had has many articles on building 'pretty' recharging stations, but nothing I've tried comes close to looking like anything more than a high tech tentacle monster attempting to rape my desk.</p><p>Cue this setup, which in the far future when everyone stops screwing around with proprietary recharging schemes, where I could have the coils hidden in a compartment in the desk and simply have to place all the devices requiring recharging on top of it. No more playing musical outlets to manage all the wall warts, no more tentacle monster.</p><p>Just a desk with a bunch of devices tossed on top.</p></div></blockquote><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Now that's just the first thing I can think of off the top of my head. But there are all sorts of uses for a cordless method of supplying power within a yard radius. Any wireless device out there that is meant to be used in a fairly stationary location could benefit from this tech. Instead of batteries, outfit a house with strategically placed coils within the walls, the same way we do with outlets today. Now, anywhere you go inside the house is automatically powered. Of course, in that instance, you probably want to make sure you have the circuitry in place to 'cut' the power to the coils till there is a device to pull a load from, but these are things that are fairly easy to work out these days.</p><p>Do I see this as something that will actually happen in the near future? No. This new twist on the tech is an interesting one, but we've known in theory about this sort of thing for a long time now and people just don't trust 'power in the air'. Just think how paranoid the "don't live near high voltage lines" people would be over this sort of thing. But that doesn't negate what is being done, it just means that I imagine the tech will be matured far far earlier than the society it is meant for.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>SAMPLE APPLICATION : So when I get home today , I have a 'recharging ' station where everything from my Wiimotes to my iPod get set so they can be plugged in and recharged .
Each item has its own charger , with accompanying wall wart , and its own cord .
I 've attempted , in the past , to come up with 'stylist ' ways over hiding this mess .
LifeHacker had has many articles on building 'pretty ' recharging stations , but nothing I 've tried comes close to looking like anything more than a high tech tentacle monster attempting to rape my desk.Cue this setup , which in the far future when everyone stops screwing around with proprietary recharging schemes , where I could have the coils hidden in a compartment in the desk and simply have to place all the devices requiring recharging on top of it .
No more playing musical outlets to manage all the wall warts , no more tentacle monster.Just a desk with a bunch of devices tossed on top .
        Now that 's just the first thing I can think of off the top of my head .
But there are all sorts of uses for a cordless method of supplying power within a yard radius .
Any wireless device out there that is meant to be used in a fairly stationary location could benefit from this tech .
Instead of batteries , outfit a house with strategically placed coils within the walls , the same way we do with outlets today .
Now , anywhere you go inside the house is automatically powered .
Of course , in that instance , you probably want to make sure you have the circuitry in place to 'cut ' the power to the coils till there is a device to pull a load from , but these are things that are fairly easy to work out these days.Do I see this as something that will actually happen in the near future ?
No. This new twist on the tech is an interesting one , but we 've known in theory about this sort of thing for a long time now and people just do n't trust 'power in the air' .
Just think how paranoid the " do n't live near high voltage lines " people would be over this sort of thing .
But that does n't negate what is being done , it just means that I imagine the tech will be matured far far earlier than the society it is meant for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SAMPLE APPLICATION:So when I get home today, I have a 'recharging' station where everything from my Wiimotes to my iPod get set so they can be plugged in and recharged.
Each item has its own charger, with accompanying wall wart, and its own cord.
I've attempted, in the past, to come up with 'stylist' ways over hiding this mess.
LifeHacker had has many articles on building 'pretty' recharging stations, but nothing I've tried comes close to looking like anything more than a high tech tentacle monster attempting to rape my desk.Cue this setup, which in the far future when everyone stops screwing around with proprietary recharging schemes, where I could have the coils hidden in a compartment in the desk and simply have to place all the devices requiring recharging on top of it.
No more playing musical outlets to manage all the wall warts, no more tentacle monster.Just a desk with a bunch of devices tossed on top.
        Now that's just the first thing I can think of off the top of my head.
But there are all sorts of uses for a cordless method of supplying power within a yard radius.
Any wireless device out there that is meant to be used in a fairly stationary location could benefit from this tech.
Instead of batteries, outfit a house with strategically placed coils within the walls, the same way we do with outlets today.
Now, anywhere you go inside the house is automatically powered.
Of course, in that instance, you probably want to make sure you have the circuitry in place to 'cut' the power to the coils till there is a device to pull a load from, but these are things that are fairly easy to work out these days.Do I see this as something that will actually happen in the near future?
No. This new twist on the tech is an interesting one, but we've known in theory about this sort of thing for a long time now and people just don't trust 'power in the air'.
Just think how paranoid the "don't live near high voltage lines" people would be over this sort of thing.
But that doesn't negate what is being done, it just means that I imagine the tech will be matured far far earlier than the society it is meant for.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425171</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425059</id>
	<title>Intel expects this technology will be a hard sell</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245695400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As everyone's credit cards were erased during the demo.</p><p>They did expect users with paper currency and PMs would be more open to purchase.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As everyone 's credit cards were erased during the demo.They did expect users with paper currency and PMs would be more open to purchase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As everyone's credit cards were erased during the demo.They did expect users with paper currency and PMs would be more open to purchase.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425867</id>
	<title>Re:Pacemakers?</title>
	<author>sexconker</author>
	<datestamp>1245698280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You jest, but it's actually easier than an iPod.</p><p>Pacemaker people often get leads for recharging, or an easy-access flap for replacement.  You can even charge through the skin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You jest , but it 's actually easier than an iPod.Pacemaker people often get leads for recharging , or an easy-access flap for replacement .
You can even charge through the skin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You jest, but it's actually easier than an iPod.Pacemaker people often get leads for recharging, or an easy-access flap for replacement.
You can even charge through the skin.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28429431</id>
	<title>Oh, wow!</title>
	<author>frank\_adrian314159</author>
	<datestamp>1245666960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They've recreated the technology in my rechargable toothbrush!  This is a true breakthrough.  I can't wait to see what's next!  Maybe a wireless communications device?  Or a horseless carriage?  Oh, the wonders of the modern scientist!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've recreated the technology in my rechargable toothbrush !
This is a true breakthrough .
I ca n't wait to see what 's next !
Maybe a wireless communications device ?
Or a horseless carriage ?
Oh , the wonders of the modern scientist !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've recreated the technology in my rechargable toothbrush!
This is a true breakthrough.
I can't wait to see what's next!
Maybe a wireless communications device?
Or a horseless carriage?
Oh, the wonders of the modern scientist!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426133</id>
	<title>Re:Already have wireless power....</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1245699180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not a replacement for batteries, it's a replacement for cables.  Right now, even battery-powered devices need cables once the charge in the battery is used up.  I'd love wireless power, to be able to ditch the rat's nest of cables I have everywhere going to every appliance and device.  Unfortunately, I would guess that wireless power technologies would generally be (a) inefficient; (b) unreliable; (c) dangerous; or (d) some combination of the above.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not a replacement for batteries , it 's a replacement for cables .
Right now , even battery-powered devices need cables once the charge in the battery is used up .
I 'd love wireless power , to be able to ditch the rat 's nest of cables I have everywhere going to every appliance and device .
Unfortunately , I would guess that wireless power technologies would generally be ( a ) inefficient ; ( b ) unreliable ; ( c ) dangerous ; or ( d ) some combination of the above .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not a replacement for batteries, it's a replacement for cables.
Right now, even battery-powered devices need cables once the charge in the battery is used up.
I'd love wireless power, to be able to ditch the rat's nest of cables I have everywhere going to every appliance and device.
Unfortunately, I would guess that wireless power technologies would generally be (a) inefficient; (b) unreliable; (c) dangerous; or (d) some combination of the above.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425125</id>
	<title>Nicola Tesla</title>
	<author>FudRucker</author>
	<datestamp>1245695580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>i always wondered what that coil was for<br>
<a href="http://www.teslasociety.com/pictures/ntesla12.jpg" title="teslasociety.com">NicolaTesla</a> [teslasociety.com] <br>
he was recharging his ipod!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>i always wondered what that coil was for NicolaTesla [ teslasociety.com ] he was recharging his ipod ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i always wondered what that coil was for
NicolaTesla [teslasociety.com] 
he was recharging his ipod!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425989</id>
	<title>Samer Theory?</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1245698700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a long time listener of Garage Logic on AM1500 (I only had AM in my car growing up, go fig) they frequently refer to a guy named Samer (sp?). He had a theory that the reason people, as a whole, have lost it, is that all the electromagnetic noise and radiation we have created litterally is frying out brain's ability to function normally.</p><p>With all this talk about wireless charging and what I see in the world, I am starting to wonder if this Samer theory has legs... and if so what are the implications on humans?</p><p>We know power lines can confuse cows internal compass. We've seen radar stations toss migratory birds a curve ball. What are the larger implications on humans since we've never really looked into how much all that 'noise' effects us.</p><p>Simply ask yourself this: You are in a room with 5 people in silence. Any stress? Ok now as the noise increases, does the stress? Now ask this: what about all the noise you don't perceive but still might pick up... is this going to be just more noise and if so what are the implications if we assume the Samer theory has some validity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a long time listener of Garage Logic on AM1500 ( I only had AM in my car growing up , go fig ) they frequently refer to a guy named Samer ( sp ? ) .
He had a theory that the reason people , as a whole , have lost it , is that all the electromagnetic noise and radiation we have created litterally is frying out brain 's ability to function normally.With all this talk about wireless charging and what I see in the world , I am starting to wonder if this Samer theory has legs... and if so what are the implications on humans ? We know power lines can confuse cows internal compass .
We 've seen radar stations toss migratory birds a curve ball .
What are the larger implications on humans since we 've never really looked into how much all that 'noise ' effects us.Simply ask yourself this : You are in a room with 5 people in silence .
Any stress ?
Ok now as the noise increases , does the stress ?
Now ask this : what about all the noise you do n't perceive but still might pick up... is this going to be just more noise and if so what are the implications if we assume the Samer theory has some validity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a long time listener of Garage Logic on AM1500 (I only had AM in my car growing up, go fig) they frequently refer to a guy named Samer (sp?).
He had a theory that the reason people, as a whole, have lost it, is that all the electromagnetic noise and radiation we have created litterally is frying out brain's ability to function normally.With all this talk about wireless charging and what I see in the world, I am starting to wonder if this Samer theory has legs... and if so what are the implications on humans?We know power lines can confuse cows internal compass.
We've seen radar stations toss migratory birds a curve ball.
What are the larger implications on humans since we've never really looked into how much all that 'noise' effects us.Simply ask yourself this: You are in a room with 5 people in silence.
Any stress?
Ok now as the noise increases, does the stress?
Now ask this: what about all the noise you don't perceive but still might pick up... is this going to be just more noise and if so what are the implications if we assume the Samer theory has some validity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28428971</id>
	<title>Re:Dumb question...</title>
	<author>Falstius</author>
	<datestamp>1245665340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This technology makes the very short range technique used in transformers work over a medium range (on the order of the coil diameter), but it is not and probably can not be a long range technique (like lasers).  I only say probably and not definitely because I have studied science history.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This technology makes the very short range technique used in transformers work over a medium range ( on the order of the coil diameter ) , but it is not and probably can not be a long range technique ( like lasers ) .
I only say probably and not definitely because I have studied science history .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This technology makes the very short range technique used in transformers work over a medium range (on the order of the coil diameter), but it is not and probably can not be a long range technique (like lasers).
I only say probably and not definitely because I have studied science history.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28439637</id>
	<title>Re:power consumption</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1245774780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would think the parts being able to be charged this way...car battery would be changed to this, while other appliances like HDD or LCD etc... might stay typical old fashioned plug in...baby steps here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would think the parts being able to be charged this way...car battery would be changed to this , while other appliances like HDD or LCD etc... might stay typical old fashioned plug in...baby steps here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would think the parts being able to be charged this way...car battery would be changed to this, while other appliances like HDD or LCD etc... might stay typical old fashioned plug in...baby steps here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425171</id>
	<title>Already have wireless power....</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1245695760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>....it's called 'using batteries'. With a 3 meter range and relatively huge copper coils involved, how is this better that using batteries? Most devices use a transformer to customize the input for the device. With wireless power, would each device need some kind of special wireless receiver/transformer? And this would be better how?</htmltext>
<tokenext>....it 's called 'using batteries' .
With a 3 meter range and relatively huge copper coils involved , how is this better that using batteries ?
Most devices use a transformer to customize the input for the device .
With wireless power , would each device need some kind of special wireless receiver/transformer ?
And this would be better how ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>....it's called 'using batteries'.
With a 3 meter range and relatively huge copper coils involved, how is this better that using batteries?
Most devices use a transformer to customize the input for the device.
With wireless power, would each device need some kind of special wireless receiver/transformer?
And this would be better how?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426611</id>
	<title>Re:Oh this is going to look cool</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1245701040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I think being fryed (a little, or a little more) when standing in-between the devices, also does not "jibe" that much...</p><p>Try to put them anywhere near me, and I will sue you to hell and back. ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I think being fryed ( a little , or a little more ) when standing in-between the devices , also does not " jibe " that much...Try to put them anywhere near me , and I will sue you to hell and back .
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I think being fryed (a little, or a little more) when standing in-between the devices, also does not "jibe" that much...Try to put them anywhere near me, and I will sue you to hell and back.
^^</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425147</id>
	<title>Re:Dumb question...</title>
	<author>ColdWetDog</author>
	<datestamp>1245695700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What makes this so novel?</p></div></blockquote><p>
It's probably patentable in one way or another.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What makes this so novel ?
It 's probably patentable in one way or another .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What makes this so novel?
It's probably patentable in one way or another.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28428763</id>
	<title>Re:We owe thanks to....</title>
	<author>Ungrounded Lightning</author>
	<datestamp>1245664680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tesla coupled the resonators with the electric field.  This couples them with the magnetic field.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tesla coupled the resonators with the electric field .
This couples them with the magnetic field .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tesla coupled the resonators with the electric field.
This couples them with the magnetic field.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425455</id>
	<title>Re:Dumb question...</title>
	<author>BeardedChimp</author>
	<datestamp>1245696660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Electromagnetic induction is the way 'tons' of energy transfers. It is also how transformers work but it is only efficient at short range.<br> <br>

This application is different in that it makes use of resonance to overcome these shortcomings. From <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless\_energy\_transfer#Resonant\_induction" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow"> wikipedia:</a> [wikipedia.org] <br>
"resonance comes in and helps efficiency dramatically by "tunneling" the magnetic field to a receiver coil that resonates at the same frequency. If resonant coupling is used, where inductors are tuned to a mutual frequency and the input current is modified from a sinusoidal into a rectangular or transient waveform, significant power may be transmitted over a range of many meters."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Electromagnetic induction is the way 'tons ' of energy transfers .
It is also how transformers work but it is only efficient at short range .
This application is different in that it makes use of resonance to overcome these shortcomings .
From wikipedia : [ wikipedia.org ] " resonance comes in and helps efficiency dramatically by " tunneling " the magnetic field to a receiver coil that resonates at the same frequency .
If resonant coupling is used , where inductors are tuned to a mutual frequency and the input current is modified from a sinusoidal into a rectangular or transient waveform , significant power may be transmitted over a range of many meters .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Electromagnetic induction is the way 'tons' of energy transfers.
It is also how transformers work but it is only efficient at short range.
This application is different in that it makes use of resonance to overcome these shortcomings.
From  wikipedia: [wikipedia.org] 
"resonance comes in and helps efficiency dramatically by "tunneling" the magnetic field to a receiver coil that resonates at the same frequency.
If resonant coupling is used, where inductors are tuned to a mutual frequency and the input current is modified from a sinusoidal into a rectangular or transient waveform, significant power may be transmitted over a range of many meters.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28431709</id>
	<title>Re:power consumption</title>
	<author>Parallax48</author>
	<datestamp>1245675240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Usually with these devices, there are losses in the primary coil due to the current rushing around, but much less than you might expect - see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductor#Stored\_energy" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductor#Stored\_energy</a> [wikipedia.org].</p><p>As for the load on the primary increasing as secondary coils are added, see the First law of thermodynamics.<br>"<br>The increase in the internal energy of a system is equal to the amount of energy added by heating the system, minus the amount lost as a result of the work done by the system on its surroundings.<br>"</p><p>Secondary coils drawing power are causing the primary coil to do work.</p><p>The way this stuff works in practice is that the primary coil makes a field that adds power...to the primary coil. This feedback loop reduces the power consumption of the primary coil. Secondary coils make this field weaker (by drawing power from it). The primary coil then has a lower positive feedback from its own field, so draws more power. This is the principle that makes electric motors draw more power when stopped / under load.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Usually with these devices , there are losses in the primary coil due to the current rushing around , but much less than you might expect - see http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductor # Stored \ _energy [ wikipedia.org ] .As for the load on the primary increasing as secondary coils are added , see the First law of thermodynamics .
" The increase in the internal energy of a system is equal to the amount of energy added by heating the system , minus the amount lost as a result of the work done by the system on its surroundings .
" Secondary coils drawing power are causing the primary coil to do work.The way this stuff works in practice is that the primary coil makes a field that adds power...to the primary coil .
This feedback loop reduces the power consumption of the primary coil .
Secondary coils make this field weaker ( by drawing power from it ) .
The primary coil then has a lower positive feedback from its own field , so draws more power .
This is the principle that makes electric motors draw more power when stopped / under load .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Usually with these devices, there are losses in the primary coil due to the current rushing around, but much less than you might expect - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductor#Stored\_energy [wikipedia.org].As for the load on the primary increasing as secondary coils are added, see the First law of thermodynamics.
"The increase in the internal energy of a system is equal to the amount of energy added by heating the system, minus the amount lost as a result of the work done by the system on its surroundings.
"Secondary coils drawing power are causing the primary coil to do work.The way this stuff works in practice is that the primary coil makes a field that adds power...to the primary coil.
This feedback loop reduces the power consumption of the primary coil.
Secondary coils make this field weaker (by drawing power from it).
The primary coil then has a lower positive feedback from its own field, so draws more power.
This is the principle that makes electric motors draw more power when stopped / under load.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425669</id>
	<title>WTF?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245697440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why so many troll mods?</p><p>Here's a troll:</p><p>Seit einigen Jahren wird das Gesch&#195;fft mit dem illegalen Welpenhandel unaufh&#195;frlich gr&#195;fsser, und damit steigt nat&#195;f&#194;&#188;rlich auch das Tierleid. Der Grund warum das Gesch&#195;fft so gut l&#195;fuft, ist vor allem mangelnde Aufkl&#195;frung, unwissende Hundek&#195;fufer, und Menschen die aus Mitleid kaufen. Welches Leid sie damit unterst&#195;f&#194;&#188;tzen wissen beim Kauf aber die wenigsten. Viele wollen Geld sparen und glauben einen Rassehund f&#195;f&#194;&#188;r sehr wenig Geld kaufen zu k&#195;fnnen. Andere sind schlicht nicht informiert wie ein seri&#195;fser Z&#195;f&#194;&#188;chter aussieht oder welchen Preis ein Rassehund normalerweise hat. Angeboten werden haupts&#195;fchlich kleine Modehunde wie Chihuahuas oder Franz&#195;fsische Bulldoggen aber auch Retriever und so ziemlich jede andere Rasse. Die meisten kommen aus L&#195;fndern in Osteuropa und haben schon sehr lange Fahrten in winzigen Boxen hinter sich, viele Hunde sind so geschw&#195;fcht das sie schon die Fahrt nicht &#195;f&#194;&#188;berstehen. Angeboten werden sie neben dem Internet auch auf Wochenm&#195;frkten oder direkt aus dem Auto heraus auf Autobahnrastpl&#195;ftzen. Die Welpen sind oft schwer krank, viele von ihnen erreichen trotz tier&#195;frztlicher Versorgung nicht mal das 1. Lebensjahr. Sie sind weder geimpft noch in irgendeiner Weise gesundheitlich untersucht worden. Die Elterntiere werden einfach wild und ohne Verstand miteinander verpaart und nicht auf Krankheiten untersucht. Ungeimpfte Welpen die nach Deutschland oder &#195;f-sterreich gebracht werden schleppen immer h&#195;fufiger gef&#195;fhrliche Krankheiten wie Parvovirose ein. Die Welpen wachsen unter sehr reizarmen und schlechten Bedingungen auf, eine gute Sozialisation ist so nicht m&#195;fglich. So lange es Menschen gibt die dort einen Welpen kaufen, sei es auch aus Mitleid, so lange werden diese H&#195;fndler ihre Hunde anbieten. Neben den H&#195;fndlern und Vermehrern gibt es aber auch noch Betr&#195;f&#194;&#188;ger vor denen man sich in acht nehmen sollte. Auch wenn der Betrug in den meisten F&#195;fllen mehr als offensichtlich ist, fallen immer noch t&#195;fglich gen&#195;f&#194;&#188;gend Leute auf diese Masche hinein. Vor allem in Online Tierm&#195;frkten bieten dubiose H&#195;fndler aus Kamerun billige Welpen an, die direkt bis vor die Haust&#195;f&#194;&#188;r geliefert werden sollen. Sp&#195;ftestens jetzt sollten die Alarmglocken l&#195;futen! Denn schon allein der Transport dieser Welpen per Schiff und Flugzeug w&#195;f&#194;&#188;rde den Kaufpreis WEIT &#195;f&#194;&#188;bersteigen. Der Welpe soll nach Deutschland transportiert werden, Abholung am Flughafen manchmal wird auch angeboten den Welpen bis vor die T&#195;f&#194;&#188;r zu bringen. Das Geld f&#195;f&#194;&#188;r den Welpen muss man im Voraus bezahlen, das Geld ist nat&#195;f&#194;&#188;rlich weg und einen Welpen gibt es auch nicht. Was macht einen guten Z&#195;f&#194;&#188;chter aus? Ein seri&#195;fser Z&#195;f&#194;&#188;chter: - z&#195;f&#194;&#188;chtet nur eine Rasse, allerh&#195;fchstens zwei - hat nur wenige Zuchttiere (1-2 H&#195;f&#194;&#188;ndinnen) - kann Sie ausreichend &#195;f&#194;&#188;ber die Eigenschaften und Besonderheiten &#195;zseiner&#195;oe Rasse informieren und steht ihnen auch nach dem Kauf mit Rat und Tat zur Seite <a href="http://www.zoopet.de/" title="zoopet.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.zoopet.de/</a> [zoopet.de] [zoopet.de] - versucht nicht Ihnen einen Welpen &#195;zaufzuschwatzen&#195;oe - erkundigt sich nach dem zuk&#195;f&#194;&#188;nftigen Lebensumst&#195;fnden des Welpen (Platz, Zeit usw.) - die H&#195;f&#194;&#188;ndin wirft h&#195;fchstens 1 mal im Jahr, es wird ihr genug Zeit gelassen sich zu erholen - die Zuchth&#195;f&#194;&#188;ndin wurde nicht vor der zweiten L&#195;fufigkeit gedeckt und ist nicht &#195;flter als 8 Jahre - Elterntiere wurden auf rassetypische Krankheiten untersucht und sind vollkommen gesund - die Welpen werden nicht vor der 8. Woche abgegeben - man kann die Mutterh&#195;f&#194;&#188;ndin mit ihren Welpen u</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why so many troll mods ? Here 's a troll : Seit einigen Jahren wird das Gesch   fft mit dem illegalen Welpenhandel unaufh   frlich gr   fsser , und damit steigt nat   f     rlich auch das Tierleid .
Der Grund warum das Gesch   fft so gut l   fuft , ist vor allem mangelnde Aufkl   frung , unwissende Hundek   fufer , und Menschen die aus Mitleid kaufen .
Welches Leid sie damit unterst   f     tzen wissen beim Kauf aber die wenigsten .
Viele wollen Geld sparen und glauben einen Rassehund f   f     r sehr wenig Geld kaufen zu k   fnnen .
Andere sind schlicht nicht informiert wie ein seri   fser Z   f     chter aussieht oder welchen Preis ein Rassehund normalerweise hat .
Angeboten werden haupts   fchlich kleine Modehunde wie Chihuahuas oder Franz   fsische Bulldoggen aber auch Retriever und so ziemlich jede andere Rasse .
Die meisten kommen aus L   fndern in Osteuropa und haben schon sehr lange Fahrten in winzigen Boxen hinter sich , viele Hunde sind so geschw   fcht das sie schon die Fahrt nicht   f     berstehen .
Angeboten werden sie neben dem Internet auch auf Wochenm   frkten oder direkt aus dem Auto heraus auf Autobahnrastpl   ftzen .
Die Welpen sind oft schwer krank , viele von ihnen erreichen trotz tier   frztlicher Versorgung nicht mal das 1 .
Lebensjahr. Sie sind weder geimpft noch in irgendeiner Weise gesundheitlich untersucht worden .
Die Elterntiere werden einfach wild und ohne Verstand miteinander verpaart und nicht auf Krankheiten untersucht .
Ungeimpfte Welpen die nach Deutschland oder   f-sterreich gebracht werden schleppen immer h   fufiger gef   fhrliche Krankheiten wie Parvovirose ein .
Die Welpen wachsen unter sehr reizarmen und schlechten Bedingungen auf , eine gute Sozialisation ist so nicht m   fglich .
So lange es Menschen gibt die dort einen Welpen kaufen , sei es auch aus Mitleid , so lange werden diese H   fndler ihre Hunde anbieten .
Neben den H   fndlern und Vermehrern gibt es aber auch noch Betr   f     ger vor denen man sich in acht nehmen sollte .
Auch wenn der Betrug in den meisten F   fllen mehr als offensichtlich ist , fallen immer noch t   fglich gen   f     gend Leute auf diese Masche hinein .
Vor allem in Online Tierm   frkten bieten dubiose H   fndler aus Kamerun billige Welpen an , die direkt bis vor die Haust   f     r geliefert werden sollen .
Sp   ftestens jetzt sollten die Alarmglocken l   futen !
Denn schon allein der Transport dieser Welpen per Schiff und Flugzeug w   f     rde den Kaufpreis WEIT   f     bersteigen .
Der Welpe soll nach Deutschland transportiert werden , Abholung am Flughafen manchmal wird auch angeboten den Welpen bis vor die T   f     r zu bringen .
Das Geld f   f     r den Welpen muss man im Voraus bezahlen , das Geld ist nat   f     rlich weg und einen Welpen gibt es auch nicht .
Was macht einen guten Z   f     chter aus ?
Ein seri   fser Z   f     chter : - z   f     chtet nur eine Rasse , allerh   fchstens zwei - hat nur wenige Zuchttiere ( 1-2 H   f     ndinnen ) - kann Sie ausreichend   f     ber die Eigenschaften und Besonderheiten   zseiner   oe Rasse informieren und steht ihnen auch nach dem Kauf mit Rat und Tat zur Seite http : //www.zoopet.de/ [ zoopet.de ] [ zoopet.de ] - versucht nicht Ihnen einen Welpen   zaufzuschwatzen   oe - erkundigt sich nach dem zuk   f     nftigen Lebensumst   fnden des Welpen ( Platz , Zeit usw .
) - die H   f     ndin wirft h   fchstens 1 mal im Jahr , es wird ihr genug Zeit gelassen sich zu erholen - die Zuchth   f     ndin wurde nicht vor der zweiten L   fufigkeit gedeckt und ist nicht   flter als 8 Jahre - Elterntiere wurden auf rassetypische Krankheiten untersucht und sind vollkommen gesund - die Welpen werden nicht vor der 8 .
Woche abgegeben - man kann die Mutterh   f     ndin mit ihren Welpen u</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why so many troll mods?Here's a troll:Seit einigen Jahren wird das GeschÃfft mit dem illegalen Welpenhandel unaufhÃfrlich grÃfsser, und damit steigt natÃfÂ¼rlich auch das Tierleid.
Der Grund warum das GeschÃfft so gut lÃfuft, ist vor allem mangelnde AufklÃfrung, unwissende HundekÃfufer, und Menschen die aus Mitleid kaufen.
Welches Leid sie damit unterstÃfÂ¼tzen wissen beim Kauf aber die wenigsten.
Viele wollen Geld sparen und glauben einen Rassehund fÃfÂ¼r sehr wenig Geld kaufen zu kÃfnnen.
Andere sind schlicht nicht informiert wie ein seriÃfser ZÃfÂ¼chter aussieht oder welchen Preis ein Rassehund normalerweise hat.
Angeboten werden hauptsÃfchlich kleine Modehunde wie Chihuahuas oder FranzÃfsische Bulldoggen aber auch Retriever und so ziemlich jede andere Rasse.
Die meisten kommen aus LÃfndern in Osteuropa und haben schon sehr lange Fahrten in winzigen Boxen hinter sich, viele Hunde sind so geschwÃfcht das sie schon die Fahrt nicht ÃfÂ¼berstehen.
Angeboten werden sie neben dem Internet auch auf WochenmÃfrkten oder direkt aus dem Auto heraus auf AutobahnrastplÃftzen.
Die Welpen sind oft schwer krank, viele von ihnen erreichen trotz tierÃfrztlicher Versorgung nicht mal das 1.
Lebensjahr. Sie sind weder geimpft noch in irgendeiner Weise gesundheitlich untersucht worden.
Die Elterntiere werden einfach wild und ohne Verstand miteinander verpaart und nicht auf Krankheiten untersucht.
Ungeimpfte Welpen die nach Deutschland oder Ãf-sterreich gebracht werden schleppen immer hÃfufiger gefÃfhrliche Krankheiten wie Parvovirose ein.
Die Welpen wachsen unter sehr reizarmen und schlechten Bedingungen auf, eine gute Sozialisation ist so nicht mÃfglich.
So lange es Menschen gibt die dort einen Welpen kaufen, sei es auch aus Mitleid, so lange werden diese HÃfndler ihre Hunde anbieten.
Neben den HÃfndlern und Vermehrern gibt es aber auch noch BetrÃfÂ¼ger vor denen man sich in acht nehmen sollte.
Auch wenn der Betrug in den meisten FÃfllen mehr als offensichtlich ist, fallen immer noch tÃfglich genÃfÂ¼gend Leute auf diese Masche hinein.
Vor allem in Online TiermÃfrkten bieten dubiose HÃfndler aus Kamerun billige Welpen an, die direkt bis vor die HaustÃfÂ¼r geliefert werden sollen.
SpÃftestens jetzt sollten die Alarmglocken lÃfuten!
Denn schon allein der Transport dieser Welpen per Schiff und Flugzeug wÃfÂ¼rde den Kaufpreis WEIT ÃfÂ¼bersteigen.
Der Welpe soll nach Deutschland transportiert werden, Abholung am Flughafen manchmal wird auch angeboten den Welpen bis vor die TÃfÂ¼r zu bringen.
Das Geld fÃfÂ¼r den Welpen muss man im Voraus bezahlen, das Geld ist natÃfÂ¼rlich weg und einen Welpen gibt es auch nicht.
Was macht einen guten ZÃfÂ¼chter aus?
Ein seriÃfser ZÃfÂ¼chter: - zÃfÂ¼chtet nur eine Rasse, allerhÃfchstens zwei - hat nur wenige Zuchttiere (1-2 HÃfÂ¼ndinnen) - kann Sie ausreichend ÃfÂ¼ber die Eigenschaften und Besonderheiten ÃzseinerÃoe Rasse informieren und steht ihnen auch nach dem Kauf mit Rat und Tat zur Seite http://www.zoopet.de/ [zoopet.de] [zoopet.de] - versucht nicht Ihnen einen Welpen ÃzaufzuschwatzenÃoe - erkundigt sich nach dem zukÃfÂ¼nftigen LebensumstÃfnden des Welpen (Platz, Zeit usw.
) - die HÃfÂ¼ndin wirft hÃfchstens 1 mal im Jahr, es wird ihr genug Zeit gelassen sich zu erholen - die ZuchthÃfÂ¼ndin wurde nicht vor der zweiten LÃfufigkeit gedeckt und ist nicht Ãflter als 8 Jahre - Elterntiere wurden auf rassetypische Krankheiten untersucht und sind vollkommen gesund - die Welpen werden nicht vor der 8.
Woche abgegeben - man kann die MutterhÃfÂ¼ndin mit ihren Welpen u</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425255</id>
	<title>Re:Dumb question...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245696060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>80\% power efficiency.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>80 \ % power efficiency .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>80\% power efficiency.
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28433469</id>
	<title>Re:Efficiency?</title>
	<author>eliphas\_levy</author>
	<datestamp>1245684060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From TFA:<br>
"For the Intel project, the large coil was hooked up to electronics that produced a current oscillating at seven megahertz. The receiving coil was tuned to the same frequency, and thus is able to accept an energy transfer with about <b>80 percent efficiency</b> within a range of about a meter, says Josh Smith, the lead researcher on the project."</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : " For the Intel project , the large coil was hooked up to electronics that produced a current oscillating at seven megahertz .
The receiving coil was tuned to the same frequency , and thus is able to accept an energy transfer with about 80 percent efficiency within a range of about a meter , says Josh Smith , the lead researcher on the project .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:
"For the Intel project, the large coil was hooked up to electronics that produced a current oscillating at seven megahertz.
The receiving coil was tuned to the same frequency, and thus is able to accept an energy transfer with about 80 percent efficiency within a range of about a meter, says Josh Smith, the lead researcher on the project.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425119</id>
	<title>This story resonates with me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245695580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I get a real charge out of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I get a real charge out of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get a real charge out of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425743</id>
	<title>Powercast released wireless power products in 2007</title>
	<author>TheNarrator</author>
	<datestamp>1245697680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.powercastco.com/" title="powercastco.com">http://www.powercastco.com/</a> [powercastco.com] </p><blockquote><div><p>True Wireless Power</p><p>Powercast recognizes there are several alternatives available for powering devices without the use of wires, each with different addressable markets.  The alternative methods may seem similar on the surface, however, they offer limited solutions.  Powercast is the only company with the technology and component-level products to deliver continuous charging, and provide its capability at a scalable distance.</p></div></blockquote><p>They even won a best of CES 2007 award from CNET:</p><p><a href="http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-12760\_7-9673092-5.html" title="cnet.com">http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-12760\_7-9673092-5.html</a> [cnet.com]</p><p>They released working wirelessly powered Christmas tree lights in December 2007 as a consumer product!</p><p><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938\_105-9793204-1.html" title="cnet.com">http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938\_105-9793204-1.html</a> [cnet.com]</p><p>Stuff like this comes up all the time but disappears down the memory hole very shortly thereafter.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.powercastco.com/ [ powercastco.com ] True Wireless PowerPowercast recognizes there are several alternatives available for powering devices without the use of wires , each with different addressable markets .
The alternative methods may seem similar on the surface , however , they offer limited solutions .
Powercast is the only company with the technology and component-level products to deliver continuous charging , and provide its capability at a scalable distance.They even won a best of CES 2007 award from CNET : http : //reviews.cnet.com/8301-12760 \ _7-9673092-5.html [ cnet.com ] They released working wirelessly powered Christmas tree lights in December 2007 as a consumer product ! http : //news.cnet.com/8301-17938 \ _105-9793204-1.html [ cnet.com ] Stuff like this comes up all the time but disappears down the memory hole very shortly thereafter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.powercastco.com/ [powercastco.com] True Wireless PowerPowercast recognizes there are several alternatives available for powering devices without the use of wires, each with different addressable markets.
The alternative methods may seem similar on the surface, however, they offer limited solutions.
Powercast is the only company with the technology and component-level products to deliver continuous charging, and provide its capability at a scalable distance.They even won a best of CES 2007 award from CNET:http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-12760\_7-9673092-5.html [cnet.com]They released working wirelessly powered Christmas tree lights in December 2007 as a consumer product!http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938\_105-9793204-1.html [cnet.com]Stuff like this comes up all the time but disappears down the memory hole very shortly thereafter.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28430475</id>
	<title>Re:useful, but dangerous</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1245670920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It wouldn't be a lazy thing. It would mean I wouldn't have to bring a cellphone, external HDD, laptop, PDA, camera, and laptop charger/power supply with me. One charger would handle it all. This means when I travel I can pack significantly lighter, draw less suspicion from "Security Theater" "cast members"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) (yes, I am equating Homeland Security to Mickey Mouse), and having need of only one type of charger, it would be harder to forget the wrong one. If I needed to buy one after forgetting the one-size-fits-all charger, I could buy one anywhere when I reach my destination.</p><p>It has nothing to do with being lazy. It's also a hell of a lot more environmentally-friendly because I wouldn't have to pay for the manufacture of many different proprietary power supplies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would n't be a lazy thing .
It would mean I would n't have to bring a cellphone , external HDD , laptop , PDA , camera , and laptop charger/power supply with me .
One charger would handle it all .
This means when I travel I can pack significantly lighter , draw less suspicion from " Security Theater " " cast members " ; ) ( yes , I am equating Homeland Security to Mickey Mouse ) , and having need of only one type of charger , it would be harder to forget the wrong one .
If I needed to buy one after forgetting the one-size-fits-all charger , I could buy one anywhere when I reach my destination.It has nothing to do with being lazy .
It 's also a hell of a lot more environmentally-friendly because I would n't have to pay for the manufacture of many different proprietary power supplies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wouldn't be a lazy thing.
It would mean I wouldn't have to bring a cellphone, external HDD, laptop, PDA, camera, and laptop charger/power supply with me.
One charger would handle it all.
This means when I travel I can pack significantly lighter, draw less suspicion from "Security Theater" "cast members" ;) (yes, I am equating Homeland Security to Mickey Mouse), and having need of only one type of charger, it would be harder to forget the wrong one.
If I needed to buy one after forgetting the one-size-fits-all charger, I could buy one anywhere when I reach my destination.It has nothing to do with being lazy.
It's also a hell of a lot more environmentally-friendly because I wouldn't have to pay for the manufacture of many different proprietary power supplies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425367</id>
	<title>Re:Oh this is going to look cool</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1245696420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Will it interfere with the reality distortion field?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Will it interfere with the reality distortion field ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will it interfere with the reality distortion field?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28429247</id>
	<title>Other Stuff too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245666360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A few years ago, I had an powered toothbrush set that charged that way - bought it in a branch of the LIDL supermarket.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A few years ago , I had an powered toothbrush set that charged that way - bought it in a branch of the LIDL supermarket .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few years ago, I had an powered toothbrush set that charged that way - bought it in a branch of the LIDL supermarket.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425497</id>
	<title>Good luck with the FCC</title>
	<author>odin84gk</author>
	<datestamp>1245696840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>7MHz? Good luck getting that through the FCC regulations on radiated emissions, not to mention all of those HAM operators. However, if they do achieve 80\% efficiency then I will wish them the best of luck.</htmltext>
<tokenext>7MHz ?
Good luck getting that through the FCC regulations on radiated emissions , not to mention all of those HAM operators .
However , if they do achieve 80 \ % efficiency then I will wish them the best of luck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>7MHz?
Good luck getting that through the FCC regulations on radiated emissions, not to mention all of those HAM operators.
However, if they do achieve 80\% efficiency then I will wish them the best of luck.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28427531</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing new here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245703800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not sure you can really patent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday's\_law\_of\_induction</p><p>Then again, if you were very convincing...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure you can really patent http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday 's \ _law \ _of \ _inductionThen again , if you were very convincing.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure you can really patent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday's\_law\_of\_inductionThen again, if you were very convincing...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425697</id>
	<title>Re:Pacemakers?</title>
	<author>rsmits</author>
	<datestamp>1245697560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Pacemakers lol?</p><p>Seriously, this is nothing more than a simple application of a simple science experiment.</p><p>Wireless fields / broadcasts are a joke, and until we change the laws of physics, always will be.  (Directed transmissions are not a joke.)</p></div><p>I was doing this as a kid in the sixties with a one transistor radio powered by rf from the local broadcast station. The radio had two tuned circuits - one for receiving power, one for tuning to the station. It's exactly the same principle used here. So now we get thousands of  new sources of radio frequency interference from these chargers! Thanks a lot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pacemakers lol ? Seriously , this is nothing more than a simple application of a simple science experiment.Wireless fields / broadcasts are a joke , and until we change the laws of physics , always will be .
( Directed transmissions are not a joke .
) I was doing this as a kid in the sixties with a one transistor radio powered by rf from the local broadcast station .
The radio had two tuned circuits - one for receiving power , one for tuning to the station .
It 's exactly the same principle used here .
So now we get thousands of new sources of radio frequency interference from these chargers !
Thanks a lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pacemakers lol?Seriously, this is nothing more than a simple application of a simple science experiment.Wireless fields / broadcasts are a joke, and until we change the laws of physics, always will be.
(Directed transmissions are not a joke.
)I was doing this as a kid in the sixties with a one transistor radio powered by rf from the local broadcast station.
The radio had two tuned circuits - one for receiving power, one for tuning to the station.
It's exactly the same principle used here.
So now we get thousands of  new sources of radio frequency interference from these chargers!
Thanks a lot.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426183</id>
	<title>It pays off to be paranoid...</title>
	<author>Chrutil</author>
	<datestamp>1245699420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...when your tinfoil hat can save you from brain cancer...
^C</htmltext>
<tokenext>...when your tinfoil hat can save you from brain cancer.. . ^ C</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...when your tinfoil hat can save you from brain cancer...
^C</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28427981</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing new here</title>
	<author>IorDMUX</author>
	<datestamp>1245662040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This wireless charging/powering is by no means a new technique.  My <a href="http://www.ohiolink.edu/etd/send-pdf.cgi/Zimmerman\%20Mark\%20D.pdf?acc\_num=case1212429431" title="ohiolink.edu">masters thesis</a> [ohiolink.edu] included plenty of material and research on this topic, and I was referencing <a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/65k582w374194127/" title="springerlink.com">papers on wireless powering</a> [springerlink.com] for implants as far back as the 70's.  The class-E amplifier driving an inductive coil resonantly tuned with a receiving coil is the standard architecture used by decades.  <br> <br>I'm confused at the submitter's hailing 'resonant coupling' as a (seemingly) recent advance, as resonant coupling is simply what happens whenever a tuned transmitter and receiver antenna communicate.  In communications devices, the tuning is broad so that the receiver takes in a wide range of frequencies which are filtered out down the line.  In power transmission devices, the tuning is much more narrow, as only a single frequency (the power wave) is transmitted.<br> <br>Ironically, [please tell me I've used that word correctly] what makes wireless powering and charging more feasible today than 20 years ago is not an improvement in the electromagnetic theory of wireless power.  Rather, it is a combination of a reduction in the power requirements of the receiving device due to advances in low-power electronics, as well as an improvement in evolution-based software which can simulate and design better and better directed antennas--something which by-hand design has never been able to do.  All in all, though, it's a nice demo but isn't much in the way of new and useful science.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This wireless charging/powering is by no means a new technique .
My masters thesis [ ohiolink.edu ] included plenty of material and research on this topic , and I was referencing papers on wireless powering [ springerlink.com ] for implants as far back as the 70 's .
The class-E amplifier driving an inductive coil resonantly tuned with a receiving coil is the standard architecture used by decades .
I 'm confused at the submitter 's hailing 'resonant coupling ' as a ( seemingly ) recent advance , as resonant coupling is simply what happens whenever a tuned transmitter and receiver antenna communicate .
In communications devices , the tuning is broad so that the receiver takes in a wide range of frequencies which are filtered out down the line .
In power transmission devices , the tuning is much more narrow , as only a single frequency ( the power wave ) is transmitted .
Ironically , [ please tell me I 've used that word correctly ] what makes wireless powering and charging more feasible today than 20 years ago is not an improvement in the electromagnetic theory of wireless power .
Rather , it is a combination of a reduction in the power requirements of the receiving device due to advances in low-power electronics , as well as an improvement in evolution-based software which can simulate and design better and better directed antennas--something which by-hand design has never been able to do .
All in all , though , it 's a nice demo but is n't much in the way of new and useful science .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This wireless charging/powering is by no means a new technique.
My masters thesis [ohiolink.edu] included plenty of material and research on this topic, and I was referencing papers on wireless powering [springerlink.com] for implants as far back as the 70's.
The class-E amplifier driving an inductive coil resonantly tuned with a receiving coil is the standard architecture used by decades.
I'm confused at the submitter's hailing 'resonant coupling' as a (seemingly) recent advance, as resonant coupling is simply what happens whenever a tuned transmitter and receiver antenna communicate.
In communications devices, the tuning is broad so that the receiver takes in a wide range of frequencies which are filtered out down the line.
In power transmission devices, the tuning is much more narrow, as only a single frequency (the power wave) is transmitted.
Ironically, [please tell me I've used that word correctly] what makes wireless powering and charging more feasible today than 20 years ago is not an improvement in the electromagnetic theory of wireless power.
Rather, it is a combination of a reduction in the power requirements of the receiving device due to advances in low-power electronics, as well as an improvement in evolution-based software which can simulate and design better and better directed antennas--something which by-hand design has never been able to do.
All in all, though, it's a nice demo but isn't much in the way of new and useful science.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425347</id>
	<title>Re:Already have wireless power....</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1245696300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because now I can wardrive for power.  Or, maybe I could drive a bumper-car on a road filled with these things.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because now I can wardrive for power .
Or , maybe I could drive a bumper-car on a road filled with these things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because now I can wardrive for power.
Or, maybe I could drive a bumper-car on a road filled with these things.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425193</id>
	<title>How revolutionary.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245695880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is if you ignore all of these.<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless\_energy\_transfer" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Wireless Energy Transfer, Wikipedia</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is if you ignore all of these.Wireless Energy Transfer , Wikipedia [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is if you ignore all of these.Wireless Energy Transfer, Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426131</id>
	<title>Re:Oh this is going to look cool</title>
	<author>insnprsn</author>
	<datestamp>1245699180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can you say proof of concept?
Make it work, then make it viable for use</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you say proof of concept ?
Make it work , then make it viable for use</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you say proof of concept?
Make it work, then make it viable for use</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28427711</id>
	<title>Re:useful, but dangerous</title>
	<author>hedwards</author>
	<datestamp>1245704340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lazy is one aspect, but the main draw is that these sorts of devices are meant to power multiple different types of gadgets and to use less power when just plugged in. <br> <br>

And when we get a standardized option available manufacturers wouldn't have to include a charger because we'd be able to use the same one that we're using for most of our other devices.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lazy is one aspect , but the main draw is that these sorts of devices are meant to power multiple different types of gadgets and to use less power when just plugged in .
And when we get a standardized option available manufacturers would n't have to include a charger because we 'd be able to use the same one that we 're using for most of our other devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lazy is one aspect, but the main draw is that these sorts of devices are meant to power multiple different types of gadgets and to use less power when just plugged in.
And when we get a standardized option available manufacturers wouldn't have to include a charger because we'd be able to use the same one that we're using for most of our other devices.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425401</id>
	<title>Re:Already have wireless power....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245696480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lots of uses for this kind of technology. A single charing station you can set devices on to recharge, no cables involved, would be quite useful and is certainly possible. Cell phones, cameras, iPods, smart devices of many different types could be very conveniently recharged.</p><p>Of course, I'd still rather see this kind of technology used for wirelessly powering vehicles, rather than charging our iPods... All in good time I suppose. Good to see more of Tesla's experiments put into practice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lots of uses for this kind of technology .
A single charing station you can set devices on to recharge , no cables involved , would be quite useful and is certainly possible .
Cell phones , cameras , iPods , smart devices of many different types could be very conveniently recharged.Of course , I 'd still rather see this kind of technology used for wirelessly powering vehicles , rather than charging our iPods... All in good time I suppose .
Good to see more of Tesla 's experiments put into practice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lots of uses for this kind of technology.
A single charing station you can set devices on to recharge, no cables involved, would be quite useful and is certainly possible.
Cell phones, cameras, iPods, smart devices of many different types could be very conveniently recharged.Of course, I'd still rather see this kind of technology used for wirelessly powering vehicles, rather than charging our iPods... All in good time I suppose.
Good to see more of Tesla's experiments put into practice.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426121</id>
	<title>Re:Already have wireless power....</title>
	<author>petershank</author>
	<datestamp>1245699180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>....it's called 'using batteries'</p></div><p>With this form of wireless power, you don't have to remember to replace the batteries, and you don't have to interrupt the device from working while the batteries are being replaced.</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>....With wireless power, would each device need some kind of special wireless receiver/transformer?</p></div><p>Yes, just like wireless phones, which each need a special wireless receiver/transformer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>....it 's called 'using batteries'With this form of wireless power , you do n't have to remember to replace the batteries , and you do n't have to interrupt the device from working while the batteries are being replaced .
....With wireless power , would each device need some kind of special wireless receiver/transformer ? Yes , just like wireless phones , which each need a special wireless receiver/transformer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ....it's called 'using batteries'With this form of wireless power, you don't have to remember to replace the batteries, and you don't have to interrupt the device from working while the batteries are being replaced.
....With wireless power, would each device need some kind of special wireless receiver/transformer?Yes, just like wireless phones, which each need a special wireless receiver/transformer.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425707</id>
	<title>Re:power consumption</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245697560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you're surrounded by magnetic fields, whether it's from the power wiring in the house you live in or your wifi access point.</p><p>I'm guessing that the most significant reason why they have antennas that size is because they're trying to -not- have it interfere with things (well, your old microwave will still do that, but you can't do too much about that aside from replace it).</p><p>The threat from magnetic fields comes from strong magnetic fields (it polarizes the atoms).  This is why magnets around CRTs is a bad idea, but that being said, it takes a SIGNIFICANT amount of power to make an amagnetic object behave in a magnetic fashion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you 're surrounded by magnetic fields , whether it 's from the power wiring in the house you live in or your wifi access point.I 'm guessing that the most significant reason why they have antennas that size is because they 're trying to -not- have it interfere with things ( well , your old microwave will still do that , but you ca n't do too much about that aside from replace it ) .The threat from magnetic fields comes from strong magnetic fields ( it polarizes the atoms ) .
This is why magnets around CRTs is a bad idea , but that being said , it takes a SIGNIFICANT amount of power to make an amagnetic object behave in a magnetic fashion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you're surrounded by magnetic fields, whether it's from the power wiring in the house you live in or your wifi access point.I'm guessing that the most significant reason why they have antennas that size is because they're trying to -not- have it interfere with things (well, your old microwave will still do that, but you can't do too much about that aside from replace it).The threat from magnetic fields comes from strong magnetic fields (it polarizes the atoms).
This is why magnets around CRTs is a bad idea, but that being said, it takes a SIGNIFICANT amount of power to make an amagnetic object behave in a magnetic fashion.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28433841</id>
	<title>Wireless power...</title>
	<author>JoCat</author>
	<datestamp>1245686340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sometimes referred to as lightening.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sometimes referred to as lightening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sometimes referred to as lightening.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426915</id>
	<title>Sounds very similar to...</title>
	<author>strangeattraction</author>
	<datestamp>1245702120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This all sounds very similar to that new fangled gadget called a radio. I read about them here.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>This all sounds very similar to that new fangled gadget called a radio .
I read about them here .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This all sounds very similar to that new fangled gadget called a radio.
I read about them here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425071</id>
	<title>Oh this is going to look cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245695460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>At an event held at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, the researchers showed off a pair of iPod speakers connected to a <b>30-centimeter-wide copper coil that received power from a similar, but larger, copper coil about a meter away</b>.</p></div></blockquote><p>
I'm having a little trouble here with the concept.  Instead of small white box plugged into the wall we have these freaking huge copper wires running in circles everywhere.  Just doesn't jibe with the trendy iPod image.<br> <br>
Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of these things?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At an event held at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View , the researchers showed off a pair of iPod speakers connected to a 30-centimeter-wide copper coil that received power from a similar , but larger , copper coil about a meter away .
I 'm having a little trouble here with the concept .
Instead of small white box plugged into the wall we have these freaking huge copper wires running in circles everywhere .
Just does n't jibe with the trendy iPod image .
Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of these things ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At an event held at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, the researchers showed off a pair of iPod speakers connected to a 30-centimeter-wide copper coil that received power from a similar, but larger, copper coil about a meter away.
I'm having a little trouble here with the concept.
Instead of small white box plugged into the wall we have these freaking huge copper wires running in circles everywhere.
Just doesn't jibe with the trendy iPod image.
Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of these things?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426521</id>
	<title>Re:power consumption</title>
	<author>ckthorp</author>
	<datestamp>1245700620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The magnetic coercion of a hard drive is so high that I doubt that these coils could cause the media to be damaged.  However, the extra EMI might just make the logic circuits fail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The magnetic coercion of a hard drive is so high that I doubt that these coils could cause the media to be damaged .
However , the extra EMI might just make the logic circuits fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The magnetic coercion of a hard drive is so high that I doubt that these coils could cause the media to be damaged.
However, the extra EMI might just make the logic circuits fail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425135</id>
	<title>Re:Pacemakers?</title>
	<author>vertinox</author>
	<datestamp>1245695640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Pacemakers lol?</i></p><p>If you think replacing a battery on an iPhone is hard, try replacing your own pacemaker battery.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pacemakers lol ? If you think replacing a battery on an iPhone is hard , try replacing your own pacemaker battery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pacemakers lol?If you think replacing a battery on an iPhone is hard, try replacing your own pacemaker battery.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28426233</id>
	<title>Nothing new here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245699660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>A company I worked for was charging the batteries in medical implants in this manner 10 years ago.  In fact, the implant's charge coil is inside its Titanium case.  The magnetic field goes right through the case.  The charger had a class E amplifier.  It worked very well.  I would not doubt if this company already has a patent on this technique.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A company I worked for was charging the batteries in medical implants in this manner 10 years ago .
In fact , the implant 's charge coil is inside its Titanium case .
The magnetic field goes right through the case .
The charger had a class E amplifier .
It worked very well .
I would not doubt if this company already has a patent on this technique .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A company I worked for was charging the batteries in medical implants in this manner 10 years ago.
In fact, the implant's charge coil is inside its Titanium case.
The magnetic field goes right through the case.
The charger had a class E amplifier.
It worked very well.
I would not doubt if this company already has a patent on this technique.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425579</id>
	<title>Troll Explosion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245697080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why are there so many replies in this topic modded as "Troll"?  Even ones that clearly are not trolls.  Is someone trolling the mod system?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are there so many replies in this topic modded as " Troll " ?
Even ones that clearly are not trolls .
Is someone trolling the mod system ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are there so many replies in this topic modded as "Troll"?
Even ones that clearly are not trolls.
Is someone trolling the mod system?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_22_1714202.28425365</id>
	<title>Wasted Energy</title>
	<author>wjousts</author>
	<datestamp>1245696360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>So in this era of concern about energy supplies, we have a new way to charge our phones that is less efficient and will waste a ton of energy. But at least we won't trip over any cables.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So in this era of concern about energy supplies , we have a new way to charge our phones that is less efficient and will waste a ton of energy .
But at least we wo n't trip over any cables .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So in this era of concern about energy supplies, we have a new way to charge our phones that is less efficient and will waste a ton of energy.
But at least we won't trip over any cables.</sentencetext>
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