<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_17_2022215</id>
	<title>Firefox 3.5 Hits Release Candidate Milestone</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1245228840000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.macupdate.com/" rel="nofollow">macupdate</a> writes <i>"Firefox 3.5rc1 has <a href="http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.5/whatsnew/">started trickling to users</a> (mirrors and <a href="http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html">appropriate pages should all be updated soon</a>). You can <a href="http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.5/releasenotes/">read the release notes</a>. RC1 still scores a 93/100 on the Acid3 test."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>macupdate writes " Firefox 3.5rc1 has started trickling to users ( mirrors and appropriate pages should all be updated soon ) .
You can read the release notes .
RC1 still scores a 93/100 on the Acid3 test .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>macupdate writes "Firefox 3.5rc1 has started trickling to users (mirrors and appropriate pages should all be updated soon).
You can read the release notes.
RC1 still scores a 93/100 on the Acid3 test.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28376775</id>
	<title>Re:Still the slowest browser.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245350820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>everytime the browser freezes because one tab decides it wants to do something I re-evaluate this decision</p></div><p>Did you remember to change the equation?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>everytime the browser freezes because one tab decides it wants to do something I re-evaluate this decisionDid you remember to change the equation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>everytime the browser freezes because one tab decides it wants to do something I re-evaluate this decisionDid you remember to change the equation?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366319</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366357</id>
	<title>Extensions</title>
	<author>mwolfe38</author>
	<datestamp>1245233520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone know if xmarks, adblock, and firebug extensions are available for it yet? If so I'll download it in a heartbeat.. Otherwise I think I'll wait.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone know if xmarks , adblock , and firebug extensions are available for it yet ?
If so I 'll download it in a heartbeat.. Otherwise I think I 'll wait .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone know if xmarks, adblock, and firebug extensions are available for it yet?
If so I'll download it in a heartbeat.. Otherwise I think I'll wait.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366211</id>
	<title>Re:A little anti clamantic...</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1245232860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, Chrome is from Google. It's going to be beta for another three years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , Chrome is from Google .
It 's going to be beta for another three years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, Chrome is from Google.
It's going to be beta for another three years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366141</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366195</id>
	<title>H.264 or Theora?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245232800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, does this version finally supports industry standards, such as H.264, or is it still trying to push Theora which nobody uses and that can't even begin to compare to H.264?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , does this version finally supports industry standards , such as H.264 , or is it still trying to push Theora which nobody uses and that ca n't even begin to compare to H.264 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, does this version finally supports industry standards, such as H.264, or is it still trying to push Theora which nobody uses and that can't even begin to compare to H.264?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28369645</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245259860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What makes you think Youtube will move to video tag? Youtube's main reason for success was relying on Flash, a plugin which everyone has and trusts to.</p><p>Do you really think Youtube would lose that convenience? Do they really care if H264 is patented? I don't really. All I see is a platform neutral, documented standard which was designed with media professionals. I don't see some "evil monster" when I look to Flash or h264. I know what would happen if Flash and h264 didn't exist. We would be arguing about WMV and evil Microsoft not releasing a player/plugin for Linux and threatening some open source developers with lawsuit.</p><p>I am all for standards but thinking a proposed thing will replace Flash, even while MS is just being joked with their Silverlight billion dollar failure supposed to rival it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What makes you think Youtube will move to video tag ?
Youtube 's main reason for success was relying on Flash , a plugin which everyone has and trusts to.Do you really think Youtube would lose that convenience ?
Do they really care if H264 is patented ?
I do n't really .
All I see is a platform neutral , documented standard which was designed with media professionals .
I do n't see some " evil monster " when I look to Flash or h264 .
I know what would happen if Flash and h264 did n't exist .
We would be arguing about WMV and evil Microsoft not releasing a player/plugin for Linux and threatening some open source developers with lawsuit.I am all for standards but thinking a proposed thing will replace Flash , even while MS is just being joked with their Silverlight billion dollar failure supposed to rival it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What makes you think Youtube will move to video tag?
Youtube's main reason for success was relying on Flash, a plugin which everyone has and trusts to.Do you really think Youtube would lose that convenience?
Do they really care if H264 is patented?
I don't really.
All I see is a platform neutral, documented standard which was designed with media professionals.
I don't see some "evil monster" when I look to Flash or h264.
I know what would happen if Flash and h264 didn't exist.
We would be arguing about WMV and evil Microsoft not releasing a player/plugin for Linux and threatening some open source developers with lawsuit.I am all for standards but thinking a proposed thing will replace Flash, even while MS is just being joked with their Silverlight billion dollar failure supposed to rival it...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366377</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366369</id>
	<title>Re:A little anti clamantic...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245233580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To be fair, Chrome is from Google. It's going to be beta for another three years.</p></div><p>What are you talking about? Google Chrome has been stable since December 2008, and Chrome 2 has been stable since mid-May (and scores 100/100 on Acid3).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , Chrome is from Google .
It 's going to be beta for another three years.What are you talking about ?
Google Chrome has been stable since December 2008 , and Chrome 2 has been stable since mid-May ( and scores 100/100 on Acid3 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, Chrome is from Google.
It's going to be beta for another three years.What are you talking about?
Google Chrome has been stable since December 2008, and Chrome 2 has been stable since mid-May (and scores 100/100 on Acid3).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366211</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366419</id>
	<title>v3.5 and still no MSI package for Windows</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245233820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish Mozilla would make up their minds:  are they going to target the Corps or not?</p><p>Even if you can get an MSI from Frontmotion   (http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/download\_firefox.htm), the corps will never go for it unless it comes off the Mozilla servers and is on the same web page as the current XPI installers. It's a "warm and fuzzy" thing that they need.</p><p>If Mozilla could somehow sanction those MSIs from Frontmotion then the corps would be more comfortable with it. Even a link from here (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html) would give FrontMotion's MSI package credibility.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish Mozilla would make up their minds : are they going to target the Corps or not ? Even if you can get an MSI from Frontmotion ( http : //www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/download \ _firefox.htm ) , the corps will never go for it unless it comes off the Mozilla servers and is on the same web page as the current XPI installers .
It 's a " warm and fuzzy " thing that they need.If Mozilla could somehow sanction those MSIs from Frontmotion then the corps would be more comfortable with it .
Even a link from here ( http : //www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html ) would give FrontMotion 's MSI package credibility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish Mozilla would make up their minds:  are they going to target the Corps or not?Even if you can get an MSI from Frontmotion   (http://www.frontmotion.com/Firefox/download\_firefox.htm), the corps will never go for it unless it comes off the Mozilla servers and is on the same web page as the current XPI installers.
It's a "warm and fuzzy" thing that they need.If Mozilla could somehow sanction those MSIs from Frontmotion then the corps would be more comfortable with it.
Even a link from here (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html) would give FrontMotion's MSI package credibility.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28371041</id>
	<title>93/100 on the Acid3 test</title>
	<author>r45d15</author>
	<datestamp>1245318060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For a web developer 93/100 is more than enough, such a (high) score is well suited to do everything you'd expect from a modern browser. The need to hit 100\% is overrated, if you're a web developer you know what I mean.
Firefox takes the approach of "what really matters" to web developers and users and that is not only passing the acid 3 test but also "next-generation" (HTML5) features like web workers (threads), native video, animated SVGs, Canvas and other stuff that other browser(s) that hit 100/100 aren't yet able to do for now, but which is much more welcome than the remaining 7\% of the acid test.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For a web developer 93/100 is more than enough , such a ( high ) score is well suited to do everything you 'd expect from a modern browser .
The need to hit 100 \ % is overrated , if you 're a web developer you know what I mean .
Firefox takes the approach of " what really matters " to web developers and users and that is not only passing the acid 3 test but also " next-generation " ( HTML5 ) features like web workers ( threads ) , native video , animated SVGs , Canvas and other stuff that other browser ( s ) that hit 100/100 are n't yet able to do for now , but which is much more welcome than the remaining 7 \ % of the acid test .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a web developer 93/100 is more than enough, such a (high) score is well suited to do everything you'd expect from a modern browser.
The need to hit 100\% is overrated, if you're a web developer you know what I mean.
Firefox takes the approach of "what really matters" to web developers and users and that is not only passing the acid 3 test but also "next-generation" (HTML5) features like web workers (threads), native video, animated SVGs, Canvas and other stuff that other browser(s) that hit 100/100 aren't yet able to do for now, but which is much more welcome than the remaining 7\% of the acid test.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28367603</id>
	<title>Re:Still the slowest browser.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245240420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't really notice the speed difference on my regular computer. However, I borrowed a friend's older laptop recently. It had Opera 9 and Firefox 3 install on it. The difference was so large that I was able to double-click the Firefox icon, open Opera, check my e-mail for new messages (in Opera) and close it by the time Firefox started up. Firefox was running without any plugins. On older hardware the difference is very apparent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't really notice the speed difference on my regular computer .
However , I borrowed a friend 's older laptop recently .
It had Opera 9 and Firefox 3 install on it .
The difference was so large that I was able to double-click the Firefox icon , open Opera , check my e-mail for new messages ( in Opera ) and close it by the time Firefox started up .
Firefox was running without any plugins .
On older hardware the difference is very apparent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't really notice the speed difference on my regular computer.
However, I borrowed a friend's older laptop recently.
It had Opera 9 and Firefox 3 install on it.
The difference was so large that I was able to double-click the Firefox icon, open Opera, check my e-mail for new messages (in Opera) and close it by the time Firefox started up.
Firefox was running without any plugins.
On older hardware the difference is very apparent.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366319</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28367389</id>
	<title>Re:v3.5 and still no MSI package for Windows</title>
	<author>RiotingPacifist</author>
	<datestamp>1245239100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>open a bug report?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>open a bug report ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>open a bug report?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366419</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366183</id>
	<title>Re:A little anti clamantic...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245232740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And both the latest Opera and Safari 4 already score 100/100...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And both the latest Opera and Safari 4 already score 100/100.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And both the latest Opera and Safari 4 already score 100/100...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366141</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366377</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245233640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why don't I have mod points today?<br>The parent is so right. The video tag means that youtube and all the web streaming websites can work without Flash. And since Firefox users update quickly, this means 20\% of Internet users will be able to do that within 6 months. That's pretty big when you think some people try to make us believe that HTML5 is 10 years away...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't I have mod points today ? The parent is so right .
The video tag means that youtube and all the web streaming websites can work without Flash .
And since Firefox users update quickly , this means 20 \ % of Internet users will be able to do that within 6 months .
That 's pretty big when you think some people try to make us believe that HTML5 is 10 years away.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't I have mod points today?The parent is so right.
The video tag means that youtube and all the web streaming websites can work without Flash.
And since Firefox users update quickly, this means 20\% of Internet users will be able to do that within 6 months.
That's pretty big when you think some people try to make us believe that HTML5 is 10 years away...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366299</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28375117</id>
	<title>Re:Extensions</title>
	<author>Quantumstate</author>
	<datestamp>1245344400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am running 3.5 (that is what it says but I presume it is RC1) and I have xmarks and adblock working normally.  Firebug requires you to use the 1.4 beta release.  I am not so sure about how stable this is because I don't run it in my default profile and i haven't been doing web development recently due to exams.  Previously I had to use the 1.4 alpha releases which were buggy but I cannot comment on the 1.4 beta.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am running 3.5 ( that is what it says but I presume it is RC1 ) and I have xmarks and adblock working normally .
Firebug requires you to use the 1.4 beta release .
I am not so sure about how stable this is because I do n't run it in my default profile and i have n't been doing web development recently due to exams .
Previously I had to use the 1.4 alpha releases which were buggy but I can not comment on the 1.4 beta .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am running 3.5 (that is what it says but I presume it is RC1) and I have xmarks and adblock working normally.
Firebug requires you to use the 1.4 beta release.
I am not so sure about how stable this is because I don't run it in my default profile and i haven't been doing web development recently due to exams.
Previously I had to use the 1.4 alpha releases which were buggy but I cannot comment on the 1.4 beta.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366357</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366713</id>
	<title>Re:Still the slowest browser.</title>
	<author>gbarules2999</author>
	<datestamp>1245235320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using 3.5's beta for a while (and I'm running the RC now). It's only slightly faster than 3.0, but it's not substantially slower than IE8 by any stretch of the imagination.<br> <br>Maybe you need to steak your "about:config"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using 3.5 's beta for a while ( and I 'm running the RC now ) .
It 's only slightly faster than 3.0 , but it 's not substantially slower than IE8 by any stretch of the imagination .
Maybe you need to steak your " about : config " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using 3.5's beta for a while (and I'm running the RC now).
It's only slightly faster than 3.0, but it's not substantially slower than IE8 by any stretch of the imagination.
Maybe you need to steak your "about:config"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366319</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28367071</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>Mystra\_x64</author>
	<datestamp>1245236940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When Firefox fail it's always that other "designed to the test", yeah, yeah.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When Firefox fail it 's always that other " designed to the test " , yeah , yeah .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When Firefox fail it's always that other "designed to the test", yeah, yeah.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366299</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28373193</id>
	<title>Re:v3.5 and still no MSI package for Windows</title>
	<author>handsomepete</author>
	<datestamp>1245336600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While this may not help you, there are certainly <a href="http://www.appdeploy.com/packages/detail.asp?id=1286" title="appdeploy.com" rel="nofollow">options</a> [appdeploy.com] for deploying silently without the MSI if you're so inclined.<br> <br>
If you really can't deploy anything but MSIs, then how do you handle the other thousands of installers that aren't MSI packaged?  Firefox seems like a nit in comparison to the legions of corporate-important applications that use any other install method but MSI.  Or legacy apps that were packaged before the popularity of MSI.  Or in house desktop applications.  Or any number of other obnoxious speed bumps you deal with when managing a large number of desktops + app deployment in a corporate environment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While this may not help you , there are certainly options [ appdeploy.com ] for deploying silently without the MSI if you 're so inclined .
If you really ca n't deploy anything but MSIs , then how do you handle the other thousands of installers that are n't MSI packaged ?
Firefox seems like a nit in comparison to the legions of corporate-important applications that use any other install method but MSI .
Or legacy apps that were packaged before the popularity of MSI .
Or in house desktop applications .
Or any number of other obnoxious speed bumps you deal with when managing a large number of desktops + app deployment in a corporate environment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While this may not help you, there are certainly options [appdeploy.com] for deploying silently without the MSI if you're so inclined.
If you really can't deploy anything but MSIs, then how do you handle the other thousands of installers that aren't MSI packaged?
Firefox seems like a nit in comparison to the legions of corporate-important applications that use any other install method but MSI.
Or legacy apps that were packaged before the popularity of MSI.
Or in house desktop applications.
Or any number of other obnoxious speed bumps you deal with when managing a large number of desktops + app deployment in a corporate environment.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366419</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28367575</id>
	<title>Re:A little anti clamantic...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245240300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Subject: A little anti <b>clamant</b>ic...</p></div><p>Anti... loud?</p><p>(When you make a mistake in a Subject, every reply rubs it in.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Subject : A little anti clamantic...Anti.. .
loud ? ( When you make a mistake in a Subject , every reply rubs it in .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Subject: A little anti clamantic...Anti...
loud?(When you make a mistake in a Subject, every reply rubs it in.
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366141</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366319</id>
	<title>Still the slowest browser.</title>
	<author>Nightspirit</author>
	<datestamp>1245233340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, even slower than IE8. From start up times to rendering pages firefox is by far the slowest. If you don't believe me download IE8, use it for a week, and you'll see for yourself. IE8 sucks for other reasons (crashes more, no plugins, forgets log-ins), and firefox is my main browser, but it is seriously falling behind. It's speed, private browsing, and I would argue even security (no sandbox/protected mode) are subpar compared to the competition. And they really need to fix private browsing, it's pretty sad when an IE feature works better than the open source alternative. As repeated ad-nauseum here firefox is still my main browser due to plugins, but everytime the browser freezes because one tab decides it wants to do something I re-evaluate this decision.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , even slower than IE8 .
From start up times to rendering pages firefox is by far the slowest .
If you do n't believe me download IE8 , use it for a week , and you 'll see for yourself .
IE8 sucks for other reasons ( crashes more , no plugins , forgets log-ins ) , and firefox is my main browser , but it is seriously falling behind .
It 's speed , private browsing , and I would argue even security ( no sandbox/protected mode ) are subpar compared to the competition .
And they really need to fix private browsing , it 's pretty sad when an IE feature works better than the open source alternative .
As repeated ad-nauseum here firefox is still my main browser due to plugins , but everytime the browser freezes because one tab decides it wants to do something I re-evaluate this decision .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, even slower than IE8.
From start up times to rendering pages firefox is by far the slowest.
If you don't believe me download IE8, use it for a week, and you'll see for yourself.
IE8 sucks for other reasons (crashes more, no plugins, forgets log-ins), and firefox is my main browser, but it is seriously falling behind.
It's speed, private browsing, and I would argue even security (no sandbox/protected mode) are subpar compared to the competition.
And they really need to fix private browsing, it's pretty sad when an IE feature works better than the open source alternative.
As repeated ad-nauseum here firefox is still my main browser due to plugins, but everytime the browser freezes because one tab decides it wants to do something I re-evaluate this decision.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28374135</id>
	<title>Re:Extensions</title>
	<author>boteeka</author>
	<datestamp>1245340440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, these extensions are all working in RC too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , these extensions are all working in RC too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, these extensions are all working in RC too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366357</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366169</id>
	<title>Beta "99"</title>
	<author>xigxag</author>
	<datestamp>1245232740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.5b99&amp;os=win&amp;lang=en-US" title="mozilla.com">Beta 99</a> [mozilla.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Beta 99 [ mozilla.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Beta 99 [mozilla.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366263</id>
	<title>Re:Beta "99"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245233040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is actually the one after that - I had 3.5b4, got 3.5b99 last week and "3.5" today. The user agent string is:

</p><p> <tt>Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090615 Firefox/3.5</tt> </p><p>(yes, this is the NT laptop - haven't checked Karmic yet)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is actually the one after that - I had 3.5b4 , got 3.5b99 last week and " 3.5 " today .
The user agent string is : Mozilla/5.0 ( Windows ; U ; Windows NT 5.1 ; en-US ; rv : 1.9.1 ) Gecko/20090615 Firefox/3.5 ( yes , this is the NT laptop - have n't checked Karmic yet )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is actually the one after that - I had 3.5b4, got 3.5b99 last week and "3.5" today.
The user agent string is:

 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090615 Firefox/3.5 (yes, this is the NT laptop - haven't checked Karmic yet)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366169</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28367363</id>
	<title>Re:Extensions</title>
	<author>RiotingPacifist</author>
	<datestamp>1245238920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>dunno about xmarks, but I've been using <a href="http://www.andyhalford.com/syncplaces/index.html" title="andyhalford.com">http://www.andyhalford.com/syncplaces/index.html</a> [andyhalford.com] with minefield after fedora11betas had issues with firefox3.5.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>dunno about xmarks , but I 've been using http : //www.andyhalford.com/syncplaces/index.html [ andyhalford.com ] with minefield after fedora11betas had issues with firefox3.5 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>dunno about xmarks, but I've been using http://www.andyhalford.com/syncplaces/index.html [andyhalford.com] with minefield after fedora11betas had issues with firefox3.5.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366357</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28371735</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>MrNemesis</author>
	<datestamp>1245325800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hereby proclaim that ACID tests should no longer be the gold standard for obscure CSS edge cases, and instead we should wait for the next generation of browsers that can render slashdot correctly - since over the last few months I've not used any browser that's rendered a page the same way in any other browser<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hereby proclaim that ACID tests should no longer be the gold standard for obscure CSS edge cases , and instead we should wait for the next generation of browsers that can render slashdot correctly - since over the last few months I 've not used any browser that 's rendered a page the same way in any other browser ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hereby proclaim that ACID tests should no longer be the gold standard for obscure CSS edge cases, and instead we should wait for the next generation of browsers that can render slashdot correctly - since over the last few months I've not used any browser that's rendered a page the same way in any other browser ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366299</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366351</id>
	<title>Open Source FAIL *again*.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245233460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another failure for Open Source.  There are now TWO non-beta 100\% fully ACID compliant CLOSED SOURCE browsers available (Opera and Safari).  Why can't the "Open Source" community come up with something competitive?</p><p>This just goes to show that Open Source is not even CLOSE to being as good a development methodology as it is so often proclaimed to be.  In point of fact, every major open source project (GIMP, Linux, Firefox, etc) is not even remotely comparable to its closed source competitors.  At this point the real question needs to be whether open sourcing code is good for anything at all.  In my opinion, the concept of "open source" needs to join the "man month" and the "waterfall method" in the pantheon of trendy, but useless, software development gimmicks.</p><p>Mod me down, freetards, I know you dont want to hear the truth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another failure for Open Source .
There are now TWO non-beta 100 \ % fully ACID compliant CLOSED SOURCE browsers available ( Opera and Safari ) .
Why ca n't the " Open Source " community come up with something competitive ? This just goes to show that Open Source is not even CLOSE to being as good a development methodology as it is so often proclaimed to be .
In point of fact , every major open source project ( GIMP , Linux , Firefox , etc ) is not even remotely comparable to its closed source competitors .
At this point the real question needs to be whether open sourcing code is good for anything at all .
In my opinion , the concept of " open source " needs to join the " man month " and the " waterfall method " in the pantheon of trendy , but useless , software development gimmicks.Mod me down , freetards , I know you dont want to hear the truth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another failure for Open Source.
There are now TWO non-beta 100\% fully ACID compliant CLOSED SOURCE browsers available (Opera and Safari).
Why can't the "Open Source" community come up with something competitive?This just goes to show that Open Source is not even CLOSE to being as good a development methodology as it is so often proclaimed to be.
In point of fact, every major open source project (GIMP, Linux, Firefox, etc) is not even remotely comparable to its closed source competitors.
At this point the real question needs to be whether open sourcing code is good for anything at all.
In my opinion, the concept of "open source" needs to join the "man month" and the "waterfall method" in the pantheon of trendy, but useless, software development gimmicks.Mod me down, freetards, I know you dont want to hear the truth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366299</id>
	<title>93/100...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245233160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still don't understand the obsession with Acid tests - they measure performance in incredibly obscure areas and have a comparatively small bearing on real world performance.  Webkit and Opera in particular have designed to the test to an extent, resulting in good scores but not necessarily comparable general compliance.

I'm also slightly confused by the use of the word "still" - none of these bugs are severe enough to risk breakage leading up to a release candidate.  I believe far more relevant are performance, bug fixes, features and HTML5/CSS3 support (which make far more of a contribution to moving the web on that Acid Test scores do) - areas in which Firefox 3.5 has improved dramatically.  Talk about focusing on the negatives...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still do n't understand the obsession with Acid tests - they measure performance in incredibly obscure areas and have a comparatively small bearing on real world performance .
Webkit and Opera in particular have designed to the test to an extent , resulting in good scores but not necessarily comparable general compliance .
I 'm also slightly confused by the use of the word " still " - none of these bugs are severe enough to risk breakage leading up to a release candidate .
I believe far more relevant are performance , bug fixes , features and HTML5/CSS3 support ( which make far more of a contribution to moving the web on that Acid Test scores do ) - areas in which Firefox 3.5 has improved dramatically .
Talk about focusing on the negatives.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still don't understand the obsession with Acid tests - they measure performance in incredibly obscure areas and have a comparatively small bearing on real world performance.
Webkit and Opera in particular have designed to the test to an extent, resulting in good scores but not necessarily comparable general compliance.
I'm also slightly confused by the use of the word "still" - none of these bugs are severe enough to risk breakage leading up to a release candidate.
I believe far more relevant are performance, bug fixes, features and HTML5/CSS3 support (which make far more of a contribution to moving the web on that Acid Test scores do) - areas in which Firefox 3.5 has improved dramatically.
Talk about focusing on the negatives...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28367779</id>
	<title>Re:Extensions</title>
	<author>therealmorris</author>
	<datestamp>1245242100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>add xmarks to that too, working fine here, as are all my add-ons, including !</htmltext>
<tokenext>add xmarks to that too , working fine here , as are all my add-ons , including !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>add xmarks to that too, working fine here, as are all my add-ons, including !</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366357</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28370011</id>
	<title>Re:Extensions</title>
	<author>maglor\_83</author>
	<datestamp>1245263700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>xmarks, adblock plus, ietab, flashblock, kallour and stylish are all working. Don't know about firebug.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>xmarks , adblock plus , ietab , flashblock , kallour and stylish are all working .
Do n't know about firebug .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>xmarks, adblock plus, ietab, flashblock, kallour and stylish are all working.
Don't know about firebug.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366357</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366711</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source FAIL *again*.</title>
	<author>Tubal-Cain</author>
	<datestamp>1245235320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Opera and Safari have rather low adoption rates. Acid3 compliance is purely a marketing gimmick until people actually implementing those features in real webpages. Opera and Apple decided that such a gimmick was a relatively fast and cheap way to get publicity, but we don't know what damage was incurred in the codebase(s) to make it happen.</p><p>Few websites will use the final 7 tests until Mozilla or MS get around to it. Mozilla can afford to take it slow and implement the features properly, rather than tacking it on. MS obviously isn't in any hurry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera and Safari have rather low adoption rates .
Acid3 compliance is purely a marketing gimmick until people actually implementing those features in real webpages .
Opera and Apple decided that such a gimmick was a relatively fast and cheap way to get publicity , but we do n't know what damage was incurred in the codebase ( s ) to make it happen.Few websites will use the final 7 tests until Mozilla or MS get around to it .
Mozilla can afford to take it slow and implement the features properly , rather than tacking it on .
MS obviously is n't in any hurry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera and Safari have rather low adoption rates.
Acid3 compliance is purely a marketing gimmick until people actually implementing those features in real webpages.
Opera and Apple decided that such a gimmick was a relatively fast and cheap way to get publicity, but we don't know what damage was incurred in the codebase(s) to make it happen.Few websites will use the final 7 tests until Mozilla or MS get around to it.
Mozilla can afford to take it slow and implement the features properly, rather than tacking it on.
MS obviously isn't in any hurry.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366351</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28367093</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source FAIL *again*.</title>
	<author>Simetrical</author>
	<datestamp>1245237120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Another failure for Open Source.  There are now TWO non-beta 100\% fully ACID compliant CLOSED SOURCE browsers available (Opera and Safari).  Why can't the "Open Source" community come up with something competitive?</p></div><p>WebKit and Opera had 100/100 on the same day (March 26, 2008).  WebKit is, of course, open-source.  It's used by more than one open-source browser, including Chromium.  WebKit and Chromium aren't developed solely by the stereotypical basement-dwelling hackers who communicate only over the Internet, but corporate-funded open source is still open source.</p><p>By the way, "Acid" is not capitalized.  Perhaps you're confusing it with the database concept of ACID compliance (atomicity, consistency, isolation, durability).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Another failure for Open Source .
There are now TWO non-beta 100 \ % fully ACID compliant CLOSED SOURCE browsers available ( Opera and Safari ) .
Why ca n't the " Open Source " community come up with something competitive ? WebKit and Opera had 100/100 on the same day ( March 26 , 2008 ) .
WebKit is , of course , open-source .
It 's used by more than one open-source browser , including Chromium .
WebKit and Chromium are n't developed solely by the stereotypical basement-dwelling hackers who communicate only over the Internet , but corporate-funded open source is still open source.By the way , " Acid " is not capitalized .
Perhaps you 're confusing it with the database concept of ACID compliance ( atomicity , consistency , isolation , durability ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another failure for Open Source.
There are now TWO non-beta 100\% fully ACID compliant CLOSED SOURCE browsers available (Opera and Safari).
Why can't the "Open Source" community come up with something competitive?WebKit and Opera had 100/100 on the same day (March 26, 2008).
WebKit is, of course, open-source.
It's used by more than one open-source browser, including Chromium.
WebKit and Chromium aren't developed solely by the stereotypical basement-dwelling hackers who communicate only over the Internet, but corporate-funded open source is still open source.By the way, "Acid" is not capitalized.
Perhaps you're confusing it with the database concept of ACID compliance (atomicity, consistency, isolation, durability).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366351</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366365</id>
	<title>available now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245233520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you want it now replace 3.5b4 to 3.5rc1 in the URL from <a href="http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html" title="mozilla.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html</a> [mozilla.com]

Might not be intended but it worked for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want it now replace 3.5b4 to 3.5rc1 in the URL from http : //www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html [ mozilla.com ] Might not be intended but it worked for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want it now replace 3.5b4 to 3.5rc1 in the URL from http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html [mozilla.com]

Might not be intended but it worked for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28370061</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source FAIL *again*.</title>
	<author>maglor\_83</author>
	<datestamp>1245264360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean the Safari that uses the open source WebKit for rendering?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean the Safari that uses the open source WebKit for rendering ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean the Safari that uses the open source WebKit for rendering?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366351</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28370255</id>
	<title>Waning in relevance</title>
	<author>exclipy</author>
	<datestamp>1245267300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anyone else feel that Firefox/Gecko is really starting to fall behind?  Chrome and Safari (and depending on the speed metric, Opera and IE8) are faster.  Webkit and Presto are more standards compliant.  And Gecko isn't even the best from an open-source point of view any more -- the Webkit code is much easier to deal with, judging from the number of new projects using it.</p><p>About the only reason Firefox still has users is extensions, and even that ground is under attack by Chrome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone else feel that Firefox/Gecko is really starting to fall behind ?
Chrome and Safari ( and depending on the speed metric , Opera and IE8 ) are faster .
Webkit and Presto are more standards compliant .
And Gecko is n't even the best from an open-source point of view any more -- the Webkit code is much easier to deal with , judging from the number of new projects using it.About the only reason Firefox still has users is extensions , and even that ground is under attack by Chrome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone else feel that Firefox/Gecko is really starting to fall behind?
Chrome and Safari (and depending on the speed metric, Opera and IE8) are faster.
Webkit and Presto are more standards compliant.
And Gecko isn't even the best from an open-source point of view any more -- the Webkit code is much easier to deal with, judging from the number of new projects using it.About the only reason Firefox still has users is extensions, and even that ground is under attack by Chrome.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366481</id>
	<title>Re:A little anti clamantic...</title>
	<author>Freetardo Jones</author>
	<datestamp>1245234120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Something being beta doesn't necessarily imply that it's not stable.  Beta just means it's a pre-release version.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Something being beta does n't necessarily imply that it 's not stable .
Beta just means it 's a pre-release version .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something being beta doesn't necessarily imply that it's not stable.
Beta just means it's a pre-release version.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28369687</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1245260220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are some people remembering the Firefox/Mozilla original mission. It is all about standards. Earliest Mozillas worked like junk but they have always beaten the rest of the market regarding standards support.</p><p>They could be reminding their mission. A standard, open web with all standards. Not thousands of hacks to show google something<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.com fine, to perfect the standards support first and hack later.</p><p>BTW, does "So what?" asking Firefox community also say "So what?" to Microsoft/IE regarding standards compliance?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are some people remembering the Firefox/Mozilla original mission .
It is all about standards .
Earliest Mozillas worked like junk but they have always beaten the rest of the market regarding standards support.They could be reminding their mission .
A standard , open web with all standards .
Not thousands of hacks to show google something .com fine , to perfect the standards support first and hack later.BTW , does " So what ?
" asking Firefox community also say " So what ?
" to Microsoft/IE regarding standards compliance ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are some people remembering the Firefox/Mozilla original mission.
It is all about standards.
Earliest Mozillas worked like junk but they have always beaten the rest of the market regarding standards support.They could be reminding their mission.
A standard, open web with all standards.
Not thousands of hacks to show google something .com fine, to perfect the standards support first and hack later.BTW, does "So what?
" asking Firefox community also say "So what?
" to Microsoft/IE regarding standards compliance?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366299</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28367961</id>
	<title>Re:A little anti clamantic...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245243480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So we have to wait until Clamantic Capybara for Ubuntu to include an Acid 3 compliant Firefox in its release?</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So we have to wait until Clamantic Capybara for Ubuntu to include an Acid 3 compliant Firefox in its release ?
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So we have to wait until Clamantic Capybara for Ubuntu to include an Acid 3 compliant Firefox in its release?
:(</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366141</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28367007</id>
	<title>Re:A little anti clamantic...</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1245236700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's for windows. The linux version is in the "developer" stage (it's like alpha, but it has some marketing twist to suggest that you're part of some clique of "developers" allowed to see this early version).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's for windows .
The linux version is in the " developer " stage ( it 's like alpha , but it has some marketing twist to suggest that you 're part of some clique of " developers " allowed to see this early version ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's for windows.
The linux version is in the "developer" stage (it's like alpha, but it has some marketing twist to suggest that you're part of some clique of "developers" allowed to see this early version).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28369121</id>
	<title>Re:H.264 or Theora?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245254340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since when is H.264 industry standard?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when is H.264 industry standard ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when is H.264 industry standard?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366195</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366275</id>
	<title>Re:A little anti clamantic...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245233100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're right.  We need an iPhone plug to punch this up.</p><p>"Mozilla shuns iPhone users with Firefox 3.5RC1"</p><p>or</p><p>"Firefox 3.5RC1 Released for the iPhone!"</p><p>I don't know if it runs on the iPhone or not. The beauty of it is: it doesn't matter.  Now you've got yourself a bonafide news article; Acid or no Acid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right .
We need an iPhone plug to punch this up .
" Mozilla shuns iPhone users with Firefox 3.5RC1 " or " Firefox 3.5RC1 Released for the iPhone !
" I do n't know if it runs on the iPhone or not .
The beauty of it is : it does n't matter .
Now you 've got yourself a bonafide news article ; Acid or no Acid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right.
We need an iPhone plug to punch this up.
"Mozilla shuns iPhone users with Firefox 3.5RC1"or"Firefox 3.5RC1 Released for the iPhone!
"I don't know if it runs on the iPhone or not.
The beauty of it is: it doesn't matter.
Now you've got yourself a bonafide news article; Acid or no Acid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28374843</id>
	<title>Re:Beta "99"</title>
	<author>Quantumstate</author>
	<datestamp>1245343320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got upgraded for 3.5b99 to 3.5 (presumably RC1 but it is like yours) and that is on Jaunty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got upgraded for 3.5b99 to 3.5 ( presumably RC1 but it is like yours ) and that is on Jaunty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got upgraded for 3.5b99 to 3.5 (presumably RC1 but it is like yours) and that is on Jaunty.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28369441</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1245258060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I don't understand people who don't understand that it is a quick visualization of how well the browser is doing css standards wise.</p><p>It is a quick benchmark, wtf is not to understand about that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I do n't understand people who do n't understand that it is a quick visualization of how well the browser is doing css standards wise.It is a quick benchmark , wtf is not to understand about that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I don't understand people who don't understand that it is a quick visualization of how well the browser is doing css standards wise.It is a quick benchmark, wtf is not to understand about that?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366877</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245236100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Acid tests are designed to highlight rendering bugs in current browsers, giving browser developers a chance to easily see where something is going wrong.  All major browsers currently pass Acid2, which means if you create a web page that only uses the kind of code that Acid2 tests for, you can be sure it will render precisely the same way in current versions of Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari, Opera, Chrome, etc.  This is a huge step forward; ten years ago, it wasn't uncommon for a page to work correctly in one browser but be completely unusable in another.</p><p>Now that all the major browsers pass Acid2, we need to find other ways in which web pages can display differently between different browsers.  Since there is an official standard that defines what the correct behavior should be, we have something to test against; this is what Acid3 does.  You're absolutely correct that passing Acid3 should not be the top priority, and failure to pass Acid3 is not a good reason for a user not to choose Firefox.  However, the remaining things that prevent Firefox from passing Acid3 are indeed bugs, and eventually, they do need to be fixed.  There are also other bugs in Firefox, that also need to be fixed, and many of these are more important than the bugs that cause Acid3 to fail.</p><p>I agree that HTML5 and CSS3 are awesome, but if browsers can't render them correctly, they're not much good.  Acid tests are an incredibly useful tool for browser developers to ensure that this happens.  Acid4 is already being planned, and will help to find bugs in the way browsers handle HTML5 and CSS3 and SVG and other stuff, taking into account some of the lessons learned from problems with the Acid3 test (for example, Acid3 tests rendering speed; Acid4 will not).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Acid tests are designed to highlight rendering bugs in current browsers , giving browser developers a chance to easily see where something is going wrong .
All major browsers currently pass Acid2 , which means if you create a web page that only uses the kind of code that Acid2 tests for , you can be sure it will render precisely the same way in current versions of Firefox , Internet Explorer , Safari , Opera , Chrome , etc .
This is a huge step forward ; ten years ago , it was n't uncommon for a page to work correctly in one browser but be completely unusable in another.Now that all the major browsers pass Acid2 , we need to find other ways in which web pages can display differently between different browsers .
Since there is an official standard that defines what the correct behavior should be , we have something to test against ; this is what Acid3 does .
You 're absolutely correct that passing Acid3 should not be the top priority , and failure to pass Acid3 is not a good reason for a user not to choose Firefox .
However , the remaining things that prevent Firefox from passing Acid3 are indeed bugs , and eventually , they do need to be fixed .
There are also other bugs in Firefox , that also need to be fixed , and many of these are more important than the bugs that cause Acid3 to fail.I agree that HTML5 and CSS3 are awesome , but if browsers ca n't render them correctly , they 're not much good .
Acid tests are an incredibly useful tool for browser developers to ensure that this happens .
Acid4 is already being planned , and will help to find bugs in the way browsers handle HTML5 and CSS3 and SVG and other stuff , taking into account some of the lessons learned from problems with the Acid3 test ( for example , Acid3 tests rendering speed ; Acid4 will not ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Acid tests are designed to highlight rendering bugs in current browsers, giving browser developers a chance to easily see where something is going wrong.
All major browsers currently pass Acid2, which means if you create a web page that only uses the kind of code that Acid2 tests for, you can be sure it will render precisely the same way in current versions of Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari, Opera, Chrome, etc.
This is a huge step forward; ten years ago, it wasn't uncommon for a page to work correctly in one browser but be completely unusable in another.Now that all the major browsers pass Acid2, we need to find other ways in which web pages can display differently between different browsers.
Since there is an official standard that defines what the correct behavior should be, we have something to test against; this is what Acid3 does.
You're absolutely correct that passing Acid3 should not be the top priority, and failure to pass Acid3 is not a good reason for a user not to choose Firefox.
However, the remaining things that prevent Firefox from passing Acid3 are indeed bugs, and eventually, they do need to be fixed.
There are also other bugs in Firefox, that also need to be fixed, and many of these are more important than the bugs that cause Acid3 to fail.I agree that HTML5 and CSS3 are awesome, but if browsers can't render them correctly, they're not much good.
Acid tests are an incredibly useful tool for browser developers to ensure that this happens.
Acid4 is already being planned, and will help to find bugs in the way browsers handle HTML5 and CSS3 and SVG and other stuff, taking into account some of the lessons learned from problems with the Acid3 test (for example, Acid3 tests rendering speed; Acid4 will not).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366549</id>
	<title>Re:v3.5 and still no MSI package for Windows</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245234420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are correct, and since windows is the only platform they really care about, it should be an MSI.  The linux and mac ports are second class and they don't care about any other OS at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are correct , and since windows is the only platform they really care about , it should be an MSI .
The linux and mac ports are second class and they do n't care about any other OS at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are correct, and since windows is the only platform they really care about, it should be an MSI.
The linux and mac ports are second class and they don't care about any other OS at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366465</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245234000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Talk about focusing on the negatives...</p></div><p>It's open source. If it doesn't conquer the world, massage your back and bake you cookies all at the same time, it was a failure. Don't you know how these things work?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Talk about focusing on the negatives...It 's open source .
If it does n't conquer the world , massage your back and bake you cookies all at the same time , it was a failure .
Do n't you know how these things work ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Talk about focusing on the negatives...It's open source.
If it doesn't conquer the world, massage your back and bake you cookies all at the same time, it was a failure.
Don't you know how these things work?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28367785</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>Millennium</author>
	<datestamp>1245242100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The thing about Acid tests is that specs are ambiguous: there are often multiple possible meanings to a given section, and inevitable different people will implement them in different ways. Some of those will be incompatible, yet both can claim compliance, so this helps no one. Tests, on the other hand, are unambiguous: either you pass or you do not.</p><p>This is why Web platforms of the future will not be based on specifications, but on the test suites. Acid tests are not perfect at this, but they are light-years better than previous practice. If Mozilla wants to be seen as taking standards seriously again, they are going to have to start taking these tests seriously, and that means 100\% as soon as possible.</p><p>They've improved over Acid2, at least, when even iCab -a browser developed by one person- beat them to full compliance by months. But they still have a long way to go. When major tests like this are developed, 100\% needs to be a dealbreaker goal for the next major release, not something put off until 2-3 big releases in the future. Opera gets this, and the WebKit folks get this. Mozilla used to, back in the days of the first CSS Acid Test. But somewhere along the way, they lost sight of it, and they need to be reminded.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The thing about Acid tests is that specs are ambiguous : there are often multiple possible meanings to a given section , and inevitable different people will implement them in different ways .
Some of those will be incompatible , yet both can claim compliance , so this helps no one .
Tests , on the other hand , are unambiguous : either you pass or you do not.This is why Web platforms of the future will not be based on specifications , but on the test suites .
Acid tests are not perfect at this , but they are light-years better than previous practice .
If Mozilla wants to be seen as taking standards seriously again , they are going to have to start taking these tests seriously , and that means 100 \ % as soon as possible.They 've improved over Acid2 , at least , when even iCab -a browser developed by one person- beat them to full compliance by months .
But they still have a long way to go .
When major tests like this are developed , 100 \ % needs to be a dealbreaker goal for the next major release , not something put off until 2-3 big releases in the future .
Opera gets this , and the WebKit folks get this .
Mozilla used to , back in the days of the first CSS Acid Test .
But somewhere along the way , they lost sight of it , and they need to be reminded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The thing about Acid tests is that specs are ambiguous: there are often multiple possible meanings to a given section, and inevitable different people will implement them in different ways.
Some of those will be incompatible, yet both can claim compliance, so this helps no one.
Tests, on the other hand, are unambiguous: either you pass or you do not.This is why Web platforms of the future will not be based on specifications, but on the test suites.
Acid tests are not perfect at this, but they are light-years better than previous practice.
If Mozilla wants to be seen as taking standards seriously again, they are going to have to start taking these tests seriously, and that means 100\% as soon as possible.They've improved over Acid2, at least, when even iCab -a browser developed by one person- beat them to full compliance by months.
But they still have a long way to go.
When major tests like this are developed, 100\% needs to be a dealbreaker goal for the next major release, not something put off until 2-3 big releases in the future.
Opera gets this, and the WebKit folks get this.
Mozilla used to, back in the days of the first CSS Acid Test.
But somewhere along the way, they lost sight of it, and they need to be reminded.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366741</id>
	<title>Re:v3.5 and still no MSI package for Windows</title>
	<author>hattig</author>
	<datestamp>1245235440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that Google Chrome will get corporate friendly before Firefox.</p><p>Firefox doesn't really have a plan for targeting business users - it's as if they don't understand corporate needs!</p><p>* Redirect update server to internal corporate network so they can test new releases before updating the corporate desktops.</p><p>* Fine-grained control at the policy level over installable extensions, themes, plugins. I.e., stop users installing their own, define a set of standard corporate extensions, and so on.</p><p>* Can run those internal designed-for-IE6-by-inept-programmers websites, that the company has no budget to update.</p><p>And I'm sure many many more can be thought of by people who actually work in corporate IT departments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that Google Chrome will get corporate friendly before Firefox.Firefox does n't really have a plan for targeting business users - it 's as if they do n't understand corporate needs !
* Redirect update server to internal corporate network so they can test new releases before updating the corporate desktops .
* Fine-grained control at the policy level over installable extensions , themes , plugins .
I.e. , stop users installing their own , define a set of standard corporate extensions , and so on .
* Can run those internal designed-for-IE6-by-inept-programmers websites , that the company has no budget to update.And I 'm sure many many more can be thought of by people who actually work in corporate IT departments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that Google Chrome will get corporate friendly before Firefox.Firefox doesn't really have a plan for targeting business users - it's as if they don't understand corporate needs!
* Redirect update server to internal corporate network so they can test new releases before updating the corporate desktops.
* Fine-grained control at the policy level over installable extensions, themes, plugins.
I.e., stop users installing their own, define a set of standard corporate extensions, and so on.
* Can run those internal designed-for-IE6-by-inept-programmers websites, that the company has no budget to update.And I'm sure many many more can be thought of by people who actually work in corporate IT departments.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366431</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>dvice\_null</author>
	<datestamp>1245233880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; I still don't understand the obsession with Acid tests</p><p>It is about marketing. It is something that can easily be measured and you can put products in quality order (or so it seems from the point of viewer) according to it. Reality is irrelevant in marketing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; I still do n't understand the obsession with Acid testsIt is about marketing .
It is something that can easily be measured and you can put products in quality order ( or so it seems from the point of viewer ) according to it .
Reality is irrelevant in marketing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; I still don't understand the obsession with Acid testsIt is about marketing.
It is something that can easily be measured and you can put products in quality order (or so it seems from the point of viewer) according to it.
Reality is irrelevant in marketing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28375787</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source FAIL *again*.</title>
	<author>mr\_mischief</author>
	<datestamp>1245347160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Safari's renderer is WebKit, which is open source and based on KHTML.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Safari 's renderer is WebKit , which is open source and based on KHTML .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Safari's renderer is WebKit, which is open source and based on KHTML.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366871</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source FAIL *again*.</title>
	<author>zoips</author>
	<datestamp>1245236100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Technically you have one non-beta closed source; Safari gets its 100\% from Webkit, which is open source.</p><p>Fed troll is fed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Technically you have one non-beta closed source ; Safari gets its 100 \ % from Webkit , which is open source.Fed troll is fed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Technically you have one non-beta closed source; Safari gets its 100\% from Webkit, which is open source.Fed troll is fed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28368321</id>
	<title>Re:Extensions</title>
	<author>wolrahnaes</author>
	<datestamp>1245246480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Currently using all three on FF 3.5b99, so they should work fine on the RC as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Currently using all three on FF 3.5b99 , so they should work fine on the RC as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Currently using all three on FF 3.5b99, so they should work fine on the RC as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28369747</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>gzipped\_tar</author>
	<datestamp>1245260760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You don't have to understand it. As I said in another post, Acid3 score is the new penis size.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't have to understand it .
As I said in another post , Acid3 score is the new penis size .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't have to understand it.
As I said in another post, Acid3 score is the new penis size.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28373535</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>dominator</author>
	<datestamp>1245337920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>even iCab -a browser developed by one person- beat them to full compliance by months</p></div></blockquote><p>That's disingenuous. The version of iCab (4.6) that passed the Acid3 test uses the same WebKit rendering engine as Safari and Chrome. And it beat Safari 4 to market by 1 day.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>even iCab -a browser developed by one person- beat them to full compliance by monthsThat 's disingenuous .
The version of iCab ( 4.6 ) that passed the Acid3 test uses the same WebKit rendering engine as Safari and Chrome .
And it beat Safari 4 to market by 1 day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>even iCab -a browser developed by one person- beat them to full compliance by monthsThat's disingenuous.
The version of iCab (4.6) that passed the Acid3 test uses the same WebKit rendering engine as Safari and Chrome.
And it beat Safari 4 to market by 1 day.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28366141</id>
	<title>A little anti clamantic...</title>
	<author>SchizoStatic</author>
	<datestamp>1245232620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since chrome did 100/100 and its "beta"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since chrome did 100/100 and its " beta "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since chrome did 100/100 and its "beta"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28374065</id>
	<title>Not everyone trusts Flash, thank god</title>
	<author>Burz</author>
	<datestamp>1245340140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or thank NoScript, rather.</p><p>Flash is now a significant malware vector.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or thank NoScript , rather.Flash is now a significant malware vector .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or thank NoScript, rather.Flash is now a significant malware vector.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_2022215.28367803</id>
	<title>Re:93/100...</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1245242160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why does somebody ask this in every browser article?  From Wikipedia:</p><p>"Acid3 is a test page from the Web Standards Project that checks how well a web browser follows certain web standards, especially relating to the Document Object Model and JavaScript."</p><p>It's handy to know how compliant a browser's JavaScript implementation is.  Nobody is "focusing on the negatives" by pointing out Firefox's score.  I get the impression you just don't like to see <em>any</em> perceived criticism of Firefox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does somebody ask this in every browser article ?
From Wikipedia : " Acid3 is a test page from the Web Standards Project that checks how well a web browser follows certain web standards , especially relating to the Document Object Model and JavaScript .
" It 's handy to know how compliant a browser 's JavaScript implementation is .
Nobody is " focusing on the negatives " by pointing out Firefox 's score .
I get the impression you just do n't like to see any perceived criticism of Firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why does somebody ask this in every browser article?
From Wikipedia:"Acid3 is a test page from the Web Standards Project that checks how well a web browser follows certain web standards, especially relating to the Document Object Model and JavaScript.
"It's handy to know how compliant a browser's JavaScript implementation is.
Nobody is "focusing on the negatives" by pointing out Firefox's score.
I get the impression you just don't like to see any perceived criticism of Firefox.</sentencetext>
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