<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_17_1938241</id>
	<title>You're (Probably) Not Going To Be a Pro Blogger</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1245267600000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://jseliger.com/" rel="nofollow">ThousandStars</a> writes <i>"Contrary to what the specious Wall Street Journal article <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124329313241952509.html?mod=googlenews\_wsj">Early Transition to Blog Pro</a> says, <a href="http://blog.seliger.com/2009/06/17/youre-not-going-to-be-a-pro">You're Not Going to be a Professional Blogger</a> argues that not that many people can make money through web advertising. The WSJ article 'doesn't discuss how people actually use their blogs to make money, which is by selling ancillary services.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>ThousandStars writes " Contrary to what the specious Wall Street Journal article Early Transition to Blog Pro says , You 're Not Going to be a Professional Blogger argues that not that many people can make money through web advertising .
The WSJ article 'does n't discuss how people actually use their blogs to make money , which is by selling ancillary services .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ThousandStars writes "Contrary to what the specious Wall Street Journal article Early Transition to Blog Pro says, You're Not Going to be a Professional Blogger argues that not that many people can make money through web advertising.
The WSJ article 'doesn't discuss how people actually use their blogs to make money, which is by selling ancillary services.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365387</id>
	<title>Not true at all</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245271800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get your blog posted as a Slashdot article and watch the money come in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get your blog posted as a Slashdot article and watch the money come in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get your blog posted as a Slashdot article and watch the money come in.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366867</id>
	<title>Re:Wake me up when..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245236040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Web advertising isn't the only way to be a professional blogger. The East Asia Forum (www.eastasiaforum.org) pays some of their staff to blog even though the blog doesn't run any advertising at all. I know other blogs follow this model. Just because the blog doesn't make money doesn't mean the bloggers don't get paid.</p><p>In the specific case of East Asia Forum, the benefit it has to its financial backers is the public good it provides.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Web advertising is n't the only way to be a professional blogger .
The East Asia Forum ( www.eastasiaforum.org ) pays some of their staff to blog even though the blog does n't run any advertising at all .
I know other blogs follow this model .
Just because the blog does n't make money does n't mean the bloggers do n't get paid.In the specific case of East Asia Forum , the benefit it has to its financial backers is the public good it provides .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Web advertising isn't the only way to be a professional blogger.
The East Asia Forum (www.eastasiaforum.org) pays some of their staff to blog even though the blog doesn't run any advertising at all.
I know other blogs follow this model.
Just because the blog doesn't make money doesn't mean the bloggers don't get paid.In the specific case of East Asia Forum, the benefit it has to its financial backers is the public good it provides.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28379357</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1245358440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><ol>
<li> Find something you are good at creating.</li>
<li> Create it.</li>
<li> Write about it.  Your articles will drive sales.</li>
<li> Sell it. &lt;Profit&gt;</li>
<li> Goto step 2</li>
</ol></htmltext>
<tokenext>Find something you are good at creating .
Create it .
Write about it .
Your articles will drive sales .
Sell it .
Goto step 2</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
 Find something you are good at creating.
Create it.
Write about it.
Your articles will drive sales.
Sell it.
Goto step 2
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28370565</id>
	<title>hard work</title>
	<author>genius24k</author>
	<datestamp>1245356940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have been running a blog for almost a year now <a href="http://www.review-ninja.com/" title="review-ninja.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.review-ninja.com/</a> [review-ninja.com] utmost I have made about $100 dollars a month for the last 4 to 5 months, but it took a lot of time and effort to have it earn something, however I have a co worker that was able to buy a car using what google ads paid him but it took him years to earn much, once you start to focus on what you should earn it gets tiring really fast, so if your planning to do professional blogging it should be about something that you really love because it is a lot of hard work specially with the pressure of putting food on the table.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been running a blog for almost a year now http : //www.review-ninja.com/ [ review-ninja.com ] utmost I have made about $ 100 dollars a month for the last 4 to 5 months , but it took a lot of time and effort to have it earn something , however I have a co worker that was able to buy a car using what google ads paid him but it took him years to earn much , once you start to focus on what you should earn it gets tiring really fast , so if your planning to do professional blogging it should be about something that you really love because it is a lot of hard work specially with the pressure of putting food on the table .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been running a blog for almost a year now http://www.review-ninja.com/ [review-ninja.com] utmost I have made about $100 dollars a month for the last 4 to 5 months, but it took a lot of time and effort to have it earn something, however I have a co worker that was able to buy a car using what google ads paid him but it took him years to earn much, once you start to focus on what you should earn it gets tiring really fast, so if your planning to do professional blogging it should be about something that you really love because it is a lot of hard work specially with the pressure of putting food on the table.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28369493</id>
	<title>probably?</title>
	<author>trouser</author>
	<datestamp>1245258600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Probably?! Despite years of steadfastly refusing to blog the best you can offer me is probably? I demand certainty! I will not be a professional blogger!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably ? !
Despite years of steadfastly refusing to blog the best you can offer me is probably ?
I demand certainty !
I will not be a professional blogger !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably?!
Despite years of steadfastly refusing to blog the best you can offer me is probably?
I demand certainty!
I will not be a professional blogger!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365809</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point, who wants to do so?</title>
	<author>Anik315</author>
	<datestamp>1245230700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wholeheartedly agree with this.  I read a lot of blogs, and the best ones are seldom very profitable.  If you want to make money from advertising, your best bet is to run around chasing celebrities (TMZ/Perez Hilton), but if you want to make a difference in the world around you, don't expect get rich doing it.  I would suggest getting a real job, so that you can afford doing you're passionate about.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wholeheartedly agree with this .
I read a lot of blogs , and the best ones are seldom very profitable .
If you want to make money from advertising , your best bet is to run around chasing celebrities ( TMZ/Perez Hilton ) , but if you want to make a difference in the world around you , do n't expect get rich doing it .
I would suggest getting a real job , so that you can afford doing you 're passionate about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wholeheartedly agree with this.
I read a lot of blogs, and the best ones are seldom very profitable.
If you want to make money from advertising, your best bet is to run around chasing celebrities (TMZ/Perez Hilton), but if you want to make a difference in the world around you, don't expect get rich doing it.
I would suggest getting a real job, so that you can afford doing you're passionate about.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365605</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point, who wants to do so?</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1245229860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Blogging professionally is an oxymoron.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Blogging professionally is an oxymoron .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blogging professionally is an oxymoron.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28370083</id>
	<title>Re:Building a website takes time</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1245264780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It's like any business, it takes hard work and time before you see any revenues. I have a blog at <a href="http://blog.magicode.org/" title="magicode.org">http://blog.magicode.org/</a> [magicode.org] (<a href="http://mirror.magicode.org/" title="magicode.org">http://mirror.magicode.org/</a> [magicode.org] if it goes down, as it's hosted on my server in my home office) and I can tell you this, I'm not making a living on the ad revenues.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, you can always pick up your revenue stream by inserting subtle endorsements for your blog in popular tech forums...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's like any business , it takes hard work and time before you see any revenues .
I have a blog at http : //blog.magicode.org/ [ magicode.org ] ( http : //mirror.magicode.org/ [ magicode.org ] if it goes down , as it 's hosted on my server in my home office ) and I can tell you this , I 'm not making a living on the ad revenues .
; ) Well , you can always pick up your revenue stream by inserting subtle endorsements for your blog in popular tech forums.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's like any business, it takes hard work and time before you see any revenues.
I have a blog at http://blog.magicode.org/ [magicode.org] (http://mirror.magicode.org/ [magicode.org] if it goes down, as it's hosted on my server in my home office) and I can tell you this, I'm not making a living on the ad revenues.
;)Well, you can always pick up your revenue stream by inserting subtle endorsements for your blog in popular tech forums...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365647</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366049</id>
	<title>Re:Well . . . .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245232140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The primary is advertising, you nitwit.  Blogger blogs, gets lots of people to read blog.  Blogger then sells ad-space to advertiser, so the people who read the blog also get to see the ad.  A small number of people purchase items from advertiser.  Blogger, advertiser, and visitors all win.</p><p>Was that simple enough for you?</p><p>Other ancillary services would include merchendise (t-shirts, hats, books, etc), or perhaps an additional service related to the blog (i.e. you blog about organization tips, then offer organizational consulting services for a fee), etc.</p><p>There are a lot of options, newspapers just can't think of any.  The small time guys who make it big are usually really good at it though.  Note that not all small time guys will make it big, and the ones who don't probably aren't good at selling ancillary services, or they'd have made it big.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The primary is advertising , you nitwit .
Blogger blogs , gets lots of people to read blog .
Blogger then sells ad-space to advertiser , so the people who read the blog also get to see the ad .
A small number of people purchase items from advertiser .
Blogger , advertiser , and visitors all win.Was that simple enough for you ? Other ancillary services would include merchendise ( t-shirts , hats , books , etc ) , or perhaps an additional service related to the blog ( i.e .
you blog about organization tips , then offer organizational consulting services for a fee ) , etc.There are a lot of options , newspapers just ca n't think of any .
The small time guys who make it big are usually really good at it though .
Note that not all small time guys will make it big , and the ones who do n't probably are n't good at selling ancillary services , or they 'd have made it big .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The primary is advertising, you nitwit.
Blogger blogs, gets lots of people to read blog.
Blogger then sells ad-space to advertiser, so the people who read the blog also get to see the ad.
A small number of people purchase items from advertiser.
Blogger, advertiser, and visitors all win.Was that simple enough for you?Other ancillary services would include merchendise (t-shirts, hats, books, etc), or perhaps an additional service related to the blog (i.e.
you blog about organization tips, then offer organizational consulting services for a fee), etc.There are a lot of options, newspapers just can't think of any.
The small time guys who make it big are usually really good at it though.
Note that not all small time guys will make it big, and the ones who don't probably aren't good at selling ancillary services, or they'd have made it big.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366411</id>
	<title>At least everyone has a share</title>
	<author>ThousandStars</author>
	<datestamp>1245233820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given that <a href="http://blog.seliger.com/" title="seliger.com">Grant Writing Confidential</a> [seliger.com] doesn't sell ads, you must be using Milo Minderbinder's <i>Catch-22</i> system of capitalism, with me as Yossarian, who says, "I don't understand why you buy eggs for seven cents apiece in Malta and sell them for five cents." Milo responds, "But I make a profit of three and a quarter cents an egg by selling them for four and a quarter cents an egg to the people in Malta I buy them from for seven cents an egg. Of course, <i>I</i> don't make the profit. The syndicate makes the profit. And everybody has a share."

<p>Actually, come to think of it, that's a better description of blogs and money making than any other I think I've read.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that Grant Writing Confidential [ seliger.com ] does n't sell ads , you must be using Milo Minderbinder 's Catch-22 system of capitalism , with me as Yossarian , who says , " I do n't understand why you buy eggs for seven cents apiece in Malta and sell them for five cents .
" Milo responds , " But I make a profit of three and a quarter cents an egg by selling them for four and a quarter cents an egg to the people in Malta I buy them from for seven cents an egg .
Of course , I do n't make the profit .
The syndicate makes the profit .
And everybody has a share .
" Actually , come to think of it , that 's a better description of blogs and money making than any other I think I 've read .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that Grant Writing Confidential [seliger.com] doesn't sell ads, you must be using Milo Minderbinder's Catch-22 system of capitalism, with me as Yossarian, who says, "I don't understand why you buy eggs for seven cents apiece in Malta and sell them for five cents.
" Milo responds, "But I make a profit of three and a quarter cents an egg by selling them for four and a quarter cents an egg to the people in Malta I buy them from for seven cents an egg.
Of course, I don't make the profit.
The syndicate makes the profit.
And everybody has a share.
"

Actually, come to think of it, that's a better description of blogs and money making than any other I think I've read.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366935</id>
	<title>Re:Do it out of love first</title>
	<author>ThousandStars</author>
	<datestamp>1245236340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The problem is that even if you do love the subject, you're <i>still</i> probably not going to make money from blogging--which is part of my point.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that even if you do love the subject , you 're still probably not going to make money from blogging--which is part of my point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that even if you do love the subject, you're still probably not going to make money from blogging--which is part of my point.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365695</id>
	<title>You must be new here</title>
	<author>monkeyboythom</author>
	<datestamp>1245230220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is, if your servers can withstand being slashdotted in the first place.
</p><p> <b>503-b Ad Revenue Unavailable</b></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is , if your servers can withstand being slashdotted in the first place .
503-b Ad Revenue Unavailable</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is, if your servers can withstand being slashdotted in the first place.
503-b Ad Revenue Unavailable</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365925</id>
	<title>Nothing has changed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245231420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be a "professional blogger," which is really just a professional writer who publishes on the internet, you have to already be interesting and well known enough to attract readers or start from nothing and prove that you are interesting and talented enough to be worth reading. Then you can either sell ad space/content from your own site or get hired to write for someone else. Both of those scenarios are possible and there are examples of each. Writing is just like any form of artistic expression. The majority of people simply aren't good enough at it to make enough money to survive without also having another source of income. Even many who are talented don't get enough recognition to allow them to quit their day job.</p><p>But I think that is missing the point entirely. I suspect the vast majority of people who blog aren't doing it to make money and they never hope to. Blogging is essentially free, and at that price point there are plenty of voices that are worth checking out that wouldn't be worthwhile at any other price point, and maybe some of those people will even mature into successful writers in the traditional sense.</p><p>So yeah, you probably won't ever be a professional blogger, or novelist, or painter, or musician but that doesn't stop people from enjoying those creative outlets for their own sake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be a " professional blogger , " which is really just a professional writer who publishes on the internet , you have to already be interesting and well known enough to attract readers or start from nothing and prove that you are interesting and talented enough to be worth reading .
Then you can either sell ad space/content from your own site or get hired to write for someone else .
Both of those scenarios are possible and there are examples of each .
Writing is just like any form of artistic expression .
The majority of people simply are n't good enough at it to make enough money to survive without also having another source of income .
Even many who are talented do n't get enough recognition to allow them to quit their day job.But I think that is missing the point entirely .
I suspect the vast majority of people who blog are n't doing it to make money and they never hope to .
Blogging is essentially free , and at that price point there are plenty of voices that are worth checking out that would n't be worthwhile at any other price point , and maybe some of those people will even mature into successful writers in the traditional sense.So yeah , you probably wo n't ever be a professional blogger , or novelist , or painter , or musician but that does n't stop people from enjoying those creative outlets for their own sake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be a "professional blogger," which is really just a professional writer who publishes on the internet, you have to already be interesting and well known enough to attract readers or start from nothing and prove that you are interesting and talented enough to be worth reading.
Then you can either sell ad space/content from your own site or get hired to write for someone else.
Both of those scenarios are possible and there are examples of each.
Writing is just like any form of artistic expression.
The majority of people simply aren't good enough at it to make enough money to survive without also having another source of income.
Even many who are talented don't get enough recognition to allow them to quit their day job.But I think that is missing the point entirely.
I suspect the vast majority of people who blog aren't doing it to make money and they never hope to.
Blogging is essentially free, and at that price point there are plenty of voices that are worth checking out that wouldn't be worthwhile at any other price point, and maybe some of those people will even mature into successful writers in the traditional sense.So yeah, you probably won't ever be a professional blogger, or novelist, or painter, or musician but that doesn't stop people from enjoying those creative outlets for their own sake.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28370127</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1245265140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's our solution to the global recession right there!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's our solution to the global recession right there !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's our solution to the global recession right there!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366225</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point, who wants to do so?</title>
	<author>Mike Buddha</author>
	<datestamp>1245232920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that people fail to realize that Mark Frauenfelder has been writing in this more casual style (with 'zines then blogs) for more than 20 years now. He was building an audience for more than 12 years by the time he decided to blog. It's not like he was starting out with nothing. This was an evolution in his career, not a catastrophic event.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that people fail to realize that Mark Frauenfelder has been writing in this more casual style ( with 'zines then blogs ) for more than 20 years now .
He was building an audience for more than 12 years by the time he decided to blog .
It 's not like he was starting out with nothing .
This was an evolution in his career , not a catastrophic event .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that people fail to realize that Mark Frauenfelder has been writing in this more casual style (with 'zines then blogs) for more than 20 years now.
He was building an audience for more than 12 years by the time he decided to blog.
It's not like he was starting out with nothing.
This was an evolution in his career, not a catastrophic event.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366865</id>
	<title>Re:Building a website takes time</title>
	<author>pimpimpim</author>
	<datestamp>1245236040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The guy behind <a href="http://www.netbooknews.de/" title="netbooknews.de">http://www.netbooknews.de/</a> [netbooknews.de] seems to be making a living from his blog, if I remember correctly. He was one of the first to write about them, he goes to all the product introductions, and by writing in good quality he could also convince manufacturers to send him pre-production samples, etc. I tried to look up some info, apparently before he worked on a linux OS specialized for the Via EPIA line. That also means that he was probably used to not earn a lot<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>The guy behind http : //www.netbooknews.de/ [ netbooknews.de ] seems to be making a living from his blog , if I remember correctly .
He was one of the first to write about them , he goes to all the product introductions , and by writing in good quality he could also convince manufacturers to send him pre-production samples , etc .
I tried to look up some info , apparently before he worked on a linux OS specialized for the Via EPIA line .
That also means that he was probably used to not earn a lot : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The guy behind http://www.netbooknews.de/ [netbooknews.de] seems to be making a living from his blog, if I remember correctly.
He was one of the first to write about them, he goes to all the product introductions, and by writing in good quality he could also convince manufacturers to send him pre-production samples, etc.
I tried to look up some info, apparently before he worked on a linux OS specialized for the Via EPIA line.
That also means that he was probably used to not earn a lot :)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365779</id>
	<title>Oh come on...</title>
	<author>sys.stdout.write</author>
	<datestamp>1245230580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>[since 1989] the only companies that have really made money from shrinkwrapped software are Microsoft and Adobe</p></div><p>Yeah, Symantec, Autodesk, et al. are merely figments of our imaginations.<br> <br>Learn your history before you write a blog post describing it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ since 1989 ] the only companies that have really made money from shrinkwrapped software are Microsoft and AdobeYeah , Symantec , Autodesk , et al .
are merely figments of our imaginations .
Learn your history before you write a blog post describing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[since 1989] the only companies that have really made money from shrinkwrapped software are Microsoft and AdobeYeah, Symantec, Autodesk, et al.
are merely figments of our imaginations.
Learn your history before you write a blog post describing it.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28368183</id>
	<title>It takes alot more time then a regualr day job</title>
	<author>shiftline</author>
	<datestamp>1245245160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I make a bit of side $ off websites but unless you plan on doing it 12hours per day every day dont expect it to replace your day job... atleast not for a number of years,

 For me its turned into more of a hobby like my <a href="http://www.visualfunhouse.com/" title="visualfunhouse.com" rel="nofollow">Optical Illusion</a> [visualfunhouse.com] site which is more for fun.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I make a bit of side $ off websites but unless you plan on doing it 12hours per day every day dont expect it to replace your day job... atleast not for a number of years , For me its turned into more of a hobby like my Optical Illusion [ visualfunhouse.com ] site which is more for fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I make a bit of side $ off websites but unless you plan on doing it 12hours per day every day dont expect it to replace your day job... atleast not for a number of years,

 For me its turned into more of a hobby like my Optical Illusion [visualfunhouse.com] site which is more for fun.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28370059</id>
	<title>So, in other words...</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1245264360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... wake you up when the market starts preferring the internet to newspapers or TV?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... wake you up when the market starts preferring the internet to newspapers or TV ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... wake you up when the market starts preferring the internet to newspapers or TV?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365321</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365595</id>
	<title>Do it out of love first</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1245229800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've kicked around the prospects of making mula from blogging before. Generally it's not worth it. <b>Blog for love of the subject</b>, and if it eventually clicks with an audience, THEN consider the mula aspect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've kicked around the prospects of making mula from blogging before .
Generally it 's not worth it .
Blog for love of the subject , and if it eventually clicks with an audience , THEN consider the mula aspect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've kicked around the prospects of making mula from blogging before.
Generally it's not worth it.
Blog for love of the subject, and if it eventually clicks with an audience, THEN consider the mula aspect.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365797</id>
	<title>How effective is online advertising anyway?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245230700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>As more and more people discover the joys of Firefox and add-ons like adblock plus, isn't advertising gonna get less effective as time goes on? Hell, even without blocking the ads, people eventually condition themselves into ignoring adverts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As more and more people discover the joys of Firefox and add-ons like adblock plus , is n't advertising gon na get less effective as time goes on ?
Hell , even without blocking the ads , people eventually condition themselves into ignoring adverts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As more and more people discover the joys of Firefox and add-ons like adblock plus, isn't advertising gonna get less effective as time goes on?
Hell, even without blocking the ads, people eventually condition themselves into ignoring adverts.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365339</id>
	<title>8==C=O=C=K==S=L=A=P==D ~~-\_</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245271620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>thunk.</htmltext>
<tokenext>thunk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thunk.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365347</id>
	<title>Yep</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1245271620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you're going to make money, it'd be best to have product to sell, and use the blog to get information to people who might want your product.  Read Don Lancaster's, "Incredible Secret Money Machine", available at <a href="http://www.tinaja.com/" title="tinaja.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinaja.com/</a> [tinaja.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're going to make money , it 'd be best to have product to sell , and use the blog to get information to people who might want your product .
Read Don Lancaster 's , " Incredible Secret Money Machine " , available at http : //www.tinaja.com/ [ tinaja.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're going to make money, it'd be best to have product to sell, and use the blog to get information to people who might want your product.
Read Don Lancaster's, "Incredible Secret Money Machine", available at http://www.tinaja.com/ [tinaja.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28367085</id>
	<title>Re:Not true</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1245237060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Almost nothing? So, it's like nothing, but there's not quite enough of it to be called nothing?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Almost nothing ?
So , it 's like nothing , but there 's not quite enough of it to be called nothing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Almost nothing?
So, it's like nothing, but there's not quite enough of it to be called nothing?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365623</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366653</id>
	<title>Re:Not true at all</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245234960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Been there done tha- 403 - Page Not Found</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Been there done tha- 403 - Page Not Found</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Been there done tha- 403 - Page Not Found</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365387</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28368537</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>NP-Incomplete</author>
	<datestamp>1245248760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The business section of any bookstore is filled with writers who have perfected this business plan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The business section of any bookstore is filled with writers who have perfected this business plan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The business section of any bookstore is filled with writers who have perfected this business plan.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365407</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365725</id>
	<title>page views</title>
	<author>ventmonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1245230400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With millions of (mostly inactive) bloggs floating around, I don't know how people expect to stand out writing stories their dog eating a remote.  Especially with CPM (cost per 1000 impressions in ad speak) in the pennies.  I'm building a website about a far more popular subject and see no way to use advertising as a viable revenue source.  I don't think the advertising model is dead, but will only make real money for the Googles of the world.</htmltext>
<tokenext>With millions of ( mostly inactive ) bloggs floating around , I do n't know how people expect to stand out writing stories their dog eating a remote .
Especially with CPM ( cost per 1000 impressions in ad speak ) in the pennies .
I 'm building a website about a far more popular subject and see no way to use advertising as a viable revenue source .
I do n't think the advertising model is dead , but will only make real money for the Googles of the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With millions of (mostly inactive) bloggs floating around, I don't know how people expect to stand out writing stories their dog eating a remote.
Especially with CPM (cost per 1000 impressions in ad speak) in the pennies.
I'm building a website about a far more popular subject and see no way to use advertising as a viable revenue source.
I don't think the advertising model is dead, but will only make real money for the Googles of the world.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365463</id>
	<title>More to the point, who wants to do so?</title>
	<author>JoshuaZ</author>
	<datestamp>1245272280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I'm not sure many people want to be professional bloggers. I have a blog that has a small number of readers and having more readers is always nice, but blogging to me and to most bloggers is a hobby or a side element. Blogging professionally would involve a tremendous amount of stress as if every post isn't just perfect, readership, and hence profit, will suffer. Blogging would cease to be a relaxing activity. In fact, many so called professional bloggers such as say most of the bloggers at <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/" title="scienceblogs.com">http://scienceblogs.com/</a> [scienceblogs.com] aren't professionals in the sense that they get large income streams but rather that is a convenience to have a small income stream in addition to their day jobs.
</p><p>
Also, apparently Firefox includes the word "blog" in its default spellchecker and "blogger" but not "bloggers" although "blogs" is included. Weird.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure many people want to be professional bloggers .
I have a blog that has a small number of readers and having more readers is always nice , but blogging to me and to most bloggers is a hobby or a side element .
Blogging professionally would involve a tremendous amount of stress as if every post is n't just perfect , readership , and hence profit , will suffer .
Blogging would cease to be a relaxing activity .
In fact , many so called professional bloggers such as say most of the bloggers at http : //scienceblogs.com/ [ scienceblogs.com ] are n't professionals in the sense that they get large income streams but rather that is a convenience to have a small income stream in addition to their day jobs .
Also , apparently Firefox includes the word " blog " in its default spellchecker and " blogger " but not " bloggers " although " blogs " is included .
Weird .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I'm not sure many people want to be professional bloggers.
I have a blog that has a small number of readers and having more readers is always nice, but blogging to me and to most bloggers is a hobby or a side element.
Blogging professionally would involve a tremendous amount of stress as if every post isn't just perfect, readership, and hence profit, will suffer.
Blogging would cease to be a relaxing activity.
In fact, many so called professional bloggers such as say most of the bloggers at http://scienceblogs.com/ [scienceblogs.com] aren't professionals in the sense that they get large income streams but rather that is a convenience to have a small income stream in addition to their day jobs.
Also, apparently Firefox includes the word "blog" in its default spellchecker and "blogger" but not "bloggers" although "blogs" is included.
Weird.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28367105</id>
	<title>Dang nubbut</title>
	<author>Kerstyun</author>
	<datestamp>1245237120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dangnations.  I wa's hoping to give up my day job as a pawrno star.  It's hard.  Life.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dangnations .
I wa 's hoping to give up my day job as a pawrno star .
It 's hard .
Life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dangnations.
I wa's hoping to give up my day job as a pawrno star.
It's hard.
Life.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365567</id>
	<title>I'm not a pro blogger</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245229680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a professional twit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a professional twit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a professional twit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28373963</id>
	<title>Paid = !Blog</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1245339780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're being paid for it, it's not a blog.  A blog is where you whine about how uncool your parents are, or what that dick at work did. If you're being paid for it, it's an article... or something still not a blog. If you are writing a daily/weekly article for your job, it's not a fracking blog, even if you use wordpress to write it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're being paid for it , it 's not a blog .
A blog is where you whine about how uncool your parents are , or what that dick at work did .
If you 're being paid for it , it 's an article... or something still not a blog .
If you are writing a daily/weekly article for your job , it 's not a fracking blog , even if you use wordpress to write it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're being paid for it, it's not a blog.
A blog is where you whine about how uncool your parents are, or what that dick at work did.
If you're being paid for it, it's an article... or something still not a blog.
If you are writing a daily/weekly article for your job, it's not a fracking blog, even if you use wordpress to write it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28371051</id>
	<title>Extend the concept</title>
	<author>tygerstripes</author>
	<datestamp>1245318120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hear hear. This can be applied to most careers and hobbies.
</p><p>I have a blog devoted principally to sharing my experiences of learning Japanese. I do this because
</p><ol> <li>I enjoy writing and sharing my experiences, and wish to improve my delivery, and having a blog is good motivation to push me to write</li><li>I want to be able to look back on my experiences, and my writing, and see how I've come on, and</li><li>I want my experiences to be of value to others, however unlikely that might be.</li></ol><p>
I have all sorts of reasons for writing a blog, and money isn't one of them. If it ever becomes popular, I'll seriously consider making money out of it, but even then I would become concerned about my motivation, because if you're writing for money rather than love, your goal will be to please your readership. It's an acceptable goal if that's what you always intended, but if you were trying to achieve something more tangible then it's likely to dilute the quality of your output.
</p><p>So I'm always doubtful of people who talk about "professional blogging". If you're doing it to make money in the first place, I will always have concerns about the authenticity of your insight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hear hear .
This can be applied to most careers and hobbies .
I have a blog devoted principally to sharing my experiences of learning Japanese .
I do this because I enjoy writing and sharing my experiences , and wish to improve my delivery , and having a blog is good motivation to push me to writeI want to be able to look back on my experiences , and my writing , and see how I 've come on , andI want my experiences to be of value to others , however unlikely that might be .
I have all sorts of reasons for writing a blog , and money is n't one of them .
If it ever becomes popular , I 'll seriously consider making money out of it , but even then I would become concerned about my motivation , because if you 're writing for money rather than love , your goal will be to please your readership .
It 's an acceptable goal if that 's what you always intended , but if you were trying to achieve something more tangible then it 's likely to dilute the quality of your output .
So I 'm always doubtful of people who talk about " professional blogging " .
If you 're doing it to make money in the first place , I will always have concerns about the authenticity of your insight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hear hear.
This can be applied to most careers and hobbies.
I have a blog devoted principally to sharing my experiences of learning Japanese.
I do this because
 I enjoy writing and sharing my experiences, and wish to improve my delivery, and having a blog is good motivation to push me to writeI want to be able to look back on my experiences, and my writing, and see how I've come on, andI want my experiences to be of value to others, however unlikely that might be.
I have all sorts of reasons for writing a blog, and money isn't one of them.
If it ever becomes popular, I'll seriously consider making money out of it, but even then I would become concerned about my motivation, because if you're writing for money rather than love, your goal will be to please your readership.
It's an acceptable goal if that's what you always intended, but if you were trying to achieve something more tangible then it's likely to dilute the quality of your output.
So I'm always doubtful of people who talk about "professional blogging".
If you're doing it to make money in the first place, I will always have concerns about the authenticity of your insight.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365407</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245271920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Secret Money Machine"?  He writes a book on how to make money, sells it, and makes money?  Is his book only one page with the following typed on it: "Write and sell a book describing how people can make lots of money."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Secret Money Machine " ?
He writes a book on how to make money , sells it , and makes money ?
Is his book only one page with the following typed on it : " Write and sell a book describing how people can make lots of money .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Secret Money Machine"?
He writes a book on how to make money, sells it, and makes money?
Is his book only one page with the following typed on it: "Write and sell a book describing how people can make lots of money.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365347</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365533</id>
	<title>Not true</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245229440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA:</p><blockquote><div><p>Google ads pay almost nothing.</p></div></blockquote><p>To the contrary: Google ad sense has paid me between $0.30 and $1.00 per ad click.</p><p>Unfortunately, my blog has extremely low visitation so I've only made $2.98 in the last month, but still.  Google ads can pay pretty well.  It depends on the ad.  My ads are primarily from companies that offer LSAT prep classes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : Google ads pay almost nothing.To the contrary : Google ad sense has paid me between $ 0.30 and $ 1.00 per ad click.Unfortunately , my blog has extremely low visitation so I 've only made $ 2.98 in the last month , but still .
Google ads can pay pretty well .
It depends on the ad .
My ads are primarily from companies that offer LSAT prep classes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:Google ads pay almost nothing.To the contrary: Google ad sense has paid me between $0.30 and $1.00 per ad click.Unfortunately, my blog has extremely low visitation so I've only made $2.98 in the last month, but still.
Google ads can pay pretty well.
It depends on the ad.
My ads are primarily from companies that offer LSAT prep classes.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28369059</id>
	<title>That is far from the truth!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245253860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.discussglobalwarming.com/blog    -- talk about a hoax like global warming and the people go crazy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.discussglobalwarming.com/blog -- talk about a hoax like global warming and the people go crazy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.discussglobalwarming.com/blog    -- talk about a hoax like global warming and the people go crazy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366849</id>
	<title>you fAIL it..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245235980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">notf so* bad.  To the</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>notf so * bad .
To the [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>notf so* bad.
To the [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28384197</id>
	<title>You're probably not gonna...</title>
	<author>GWBasic</author>
	<datestamp>1245336060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're probably not gonna:</p><ul> <li>Be a famous movie star</li><li>Be a famous rock star</li><li>Be a famous athlete</li></ul><p>But, if that's the life you want, there's nothing wrong with trying!  Just don't assume that, because you work hard, you're going to succeed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're probably not gon na : Be a famous movie starBe a famous rock starBe a famous athleteBut , if that 's the life you want , there 's nothing wrong with trying !
Just do n't assume that , because you work hard , you 're going to succeed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're probably not gonna: Be a famous movie starBe a famous rock starBe a famous athleteBut, if that's the life you want, there's nothing wrong with trying!
Just don't assume that, because you work hard, you're going to succeed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365747</id>
	<title>Good blogs required a lot work</title>
	<author>fividotcom</author>
	<datestamp>1245230460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>whether you have to spend time researching or just coming up with content that is germane to your audience and it's not simply a paraphrase of someone else's work.  I blog for my site but it is primarily to communicate pertinent information and viewpoints to my users.  I can't imagine being a professional blogger - not sure there is enough time in the day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>whether you have to spend time researching or just coming up with content that is germane to your audience and it 's not simply a paraphrase of someone else 's work .
I blog for my site but it is primarily to communicate pertinent information and viewpoints to my users .
I ca n't imagine being a professional blogger - not sure there is enough time in the day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>whether you have to spend time researching or just coming up with content that is germane to your audience and it's not simply a paraphrase of someone else's work.
I blog for my site but it is primarily to communicate pertinent information and viewpoints to my users.
I can't imagine being a professional blogger - not sure there is enough time in the day.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366115</id>
	<title>Conflict of interest</title>
	<author>MrNougat</author>
	<datestamp>1245232500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wouldn't it be in the best interest of <i>someone who makes money at their blog</i> to dissuade people from becoming competition?  Perhaps by writing a blog about how difficult it is to make money at blogging, regardless of what the Wall Street Journal says?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't it be in the best interest of someone who makes money at their blog to dissuade people from becoming competition ?
Perhaps by writing a blog about how difficult it is to make money at blogging , regardless of what the Wall Street Journal says ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't it be in the best interest of someone who makes money at their blog to dissuade people from becoming competition?
Perhaps by writing a blog about how difficult it is to make money at blogging, regardless of what the Wall Street Journal says?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365493</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245229200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1. ???
2. ???
3. ???
4. ???
5. Profit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
? ? ? 2 .
? ? ? 3 .
? ? ? 4 .
? ? ? 5 .
Profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
???
2.
???
3.
???
4.
???
5.
Profit.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366463</id>
	<title>Re:Um, news?</title>
	<author>jdbausch</author>
	<datestamp>1245234000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There appears to be a this belief on slashdot that all these bloggers are what is putting newspapers out of business.

Unless someone can point me at a source for this, I simply cannot believe it.  My perception of what is killing newspapers is that people can get vetted news (Reuters and AP for example) stories for FREE in a preferable delivery system (computer, phone, etc).  By comparison, paying to get a paper that is already outdated by the time you read it just does not cut it.

I understand that many reporters have blogs and they produce and reproduce news content there, and also some news reporting does come directly from Blogs.  But I still don't think that is even close to the source of the newspaper's troubles.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There appears to be a this belief on slashdot that all these bloggers are what is putting newspapers out of business .
Unless someone can point me at a source for this , I simply can not believe it .
My perception of what is killing newspapers is that people can get vetted news ( Reuters and AP for example ) stories for FREE in a preferable delivery system ( computer , phone , etc ) .
By comparison , paying to get a paper that is already outdated by the time you read it just does not cut it .
I understand that many reporters have blogs and they produce and reproduce news content there , and also some news reporting does come directly from Blogs .
But I still do n't think that is even close to the source of the newspaper 's troubles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There appears to be a this belief on slashdot that all these bloggers are what is putting newspapers out of business.
Unless someone can point me at a source for this, I simply cannot believe it.
My perception of what is killing newspapers is that people can get vetted news (Reuters and AP for example) stories for FREE in a preferable delivery system (computer, phone, etc).
By comparison, paying to get a paper that is already outdated by the time you read it just does not cut it.
I understand that many reporters have blogs and they produce and reproduce news content there, and also some news reporting does come directly from Blogs.
But I still don't think that is even close to the source of the newspaper's troubles.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366477</id>
	<title>Re:Wake me up when..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245234060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you want advertising rates, which are, according to you, now artificially inflated by "dinosaurs", to rise even more?</p><p>And that is rated insightful???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you want advertising rates , which are , according to you , now artificially inflated by " dinosaurs " , to rise even more ? And that is rated insightful ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you want advertising rates, which are, according to you, now artificially inflated by "dinosaurs", to rise even more?And that is rated insightful??
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365321</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366731</id>
	<title>Re:Um, news?</title>
	<author>ThousandStars</author>
	<datestamp>1245235380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>They have an agenda which relies upon them beating the bloggers at their own game. They should absolutely not be trusted in regards to this article.
</i> <p>I hate to break it to you, but the WSJ article implies that you <i>can</i> make money blogging. My article on <a href="http://blog.seliger.com/" title="seliger.com">Grant Writing Confidential</a> [seliger.com] argues otherwise. You may want to read the articles on which you're commenting with more care. </p><p>(Cue jokes in 3... 2... 1...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They have an agenda which relies upon them beating the bloggers at their own game .
They should absolutely not be trusted in regards to this article .
I hate to break it to you , but the WSJ article implies that you can make money blogging .
My article on Grant Writing Confidential [ seliger.com ] argues otherwise .
You may want to read the articles on which you 're commenting with more care .
( Cue jokes in 3... 2... 1... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have an agenda which relies upon them beating the bloggers at their own game.
They should absolutely not be trusted in regards to this article.
I hate to break it to you, but the WSJ article implies that you can make money blogging.
My article on Grant Writing Confidential [seliger.com] argues otherwise.
You may want to read the articles on which you're commenting with more care.
(Cue jokes in 3... 2... 1...)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365565</id>
	<title>Heh "professional" blogger</title>
	<author>British</author>
	<datestamp>1245229620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that what they are calling armchair journalists these days?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that what they are calling armchair journalists these days ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that what they are calling armchair journalists these days?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28367435</id>
	<title>Macropayments dammit!</title>
	<author>mrmeval</author>
	<datestamp>1245239400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes some are comics, deal with it.</p><p>I buy<br>Your book, (Schlock Mercenary)<br>Your mug (Glow in the dark messiah of the moment)<br>Your stupid grin on a signed photo.<br>Your MOM<br>Signed pictures of your cat (Hi Kyle Cassidy and Roswell!)<br>Your T SHIRT! (Yes you Dr. McNinja!)<br>Your verbally abusive T- SHIRT! (NUKE THE MOON!)<br>Your wordless T SHIRT! (WWWBatmanD)<br>Your rather funny T Shirt (Blogger, novelist of Better to Beg Forgiveness) -&gt; BOOMY<br>Your hysterical mug if you had a damnable CLUE (Some comic that had a banner ad with a coffee mug emblazoned "Not for use with crotch" BUT DIDN'T SELL THE DAMN THING)<br>Your doodads (Alien Dice key fob thingies).<br>THE CUTE OMG THE TERRIBLE TEETH DESTROYING SUGARY CUTE (DMFA)<br>The strange T-Shirt (Oh My Gods)</p><p>In other words all the 'side bidness' you need to be able to EAT.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Feed your artists and authors people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes some are comics , deal with it.I buyYour book , ( Schlock Mercenary ) Your mug ( Glow in the dark messiah of the moment ) Your stupid grin on a signed photo.Your MOMSigned pictures of your cat ( Hi Kyle Cassidy and Roswell !
) Your T SHIRT !
( Yes you Dr .
McNinja ! ) Your verbally abusive T- SHIRT !
( NUKE THE MOON !
) Your wordless T SHIRT !
( WWWBatmanD ) Your rather funny T Shirt ( Blogger , novelist of Better to Beg Forgiveness ) - &gt; BOOMYYour hysterical mug if you had a damnable CLUE ( Some comic that had a banner ad with a coffee mug emblazoned " Not for use with crotch " BUT DID N'T SELL THE DAMN THING ) Your doodads ( Alien Dice key fob thingies ) .THE CUTE OMG THE TERRIBLE TEETH DESTROYING SUGARY CUTE ( DMFA ) The strange T-Shirt ( Oh My Gods ) In other words all the 'side bidness ' you need to be able to EAT .
: ) Feed your artists and authors people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes some are comics, deal with it.I buyYour book, (Schlock Mercenary)Your mug (Glow in the dark messiah of the moment)Your stupid grin on a signed photo.Your MOMSigned pictures of your cat (Hi Kyle Cassidy and Roswell!
)Your T SHIRT!
(Yes you Dr.
McNinja!)Your verbally abusive T- SHIRT!
(NUKE THE MOON!
)Your wordless T SHIRT!
(WWWBatmanD)Your rather funny T Shirt (Blogger, novelist of Better to Beg Forgiveness) -&gt; BOOMYYour hysterical mug if you had a damnable CLUE (Some comic that had a banner ad with a coffee mug emblazoned "Not for use with crotch" BUT DIDN'T SELL THE DAMN THING)Your doodads (Alien Dice key fob thingies).THE CUTE OMG THE TERRIBLE TEETH DESTROYING SUGARY CUTE (DMFA)The strange T-Shirt (Oh My Gods)In other words all the 'side bidness' you need to be able to EAT.
:)Feed your artists and authors people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366193</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365429</id>
	<title>Well . . . .</title>
	<author>arizwebfoot</author>
	<datestamp>1245272040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"The WSJ article 'doesn't discuss how people actually use their blogs to make money, which is by selling ancillary services."</p></div><p>
What ancillary services are we talking about here?  1/2 hour, 1 hour, or 2 hours "donations" for services rendered?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The WSJ article 'does n't discuss how people actually use their blogs to make money , which is by selling ancillary services .
" What ancillary services are we talking about here ?
1/2 hour , 1 hour , or 2 hours " donations " for services rendered ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The WSJ article 'doesn't discuss how people actually use their blogs to make money, which is by selling ancillary services.
"
What ancillary services are we talking about here?
1/2 hour, 1 hour, or 2 hours "donations" for services rendered?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366253</id>
	<title>I get a few 1000 readers a month.....</title>
	<author>AnAdventurer</author>
	<datestamp>1245233040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And I still have not gotten that first $100 check from Google after 18 months. Granted I am niche.  A friend who gets 1000's of readers (many returning) a day makes an "insignificant amount" also from click ads.<p>
It's the way for the future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I still have not gotten that first $ 100 check from Google after 18 months .
Granted I am niche .
A friend who gets 1000 's of readers ( many returning ) a day makes an " insignificant amount " also from click ads .
It 's the way for the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I still have not gotten that first $100 check from Google after 18 months.
Granted I am niche.
A friend who gets 1000's of readers (many returning) a day makes an "insignificant amount" also from click ads.
It's the way for the future.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365713</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point, who wants to do so?</title>
	<author>CRCulver</author>
	<datestamp>1245230340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Blogging professionally would involve a tremendous amount of stress as if every post isn't just perfect, readership, and hence profit, will suffer.</p><p>I'm not sure this is the case. Certainly with a lot of popular political blogs (I'm thinking especially of Little Green Footballs here, but there are many others), the proprietors spent a lot of time expressing their bold individual viewpoint six or seven years ago, but now that they've made it big, they seem to just be phoning it in. In fact, I notice that a lot of their posts nowadays start with "Reader X alerted me to this article" followed by a simple copy and paste of something published in the traditional media. It doesn't look like readership has suffered, because the amount of comments on each story has only been going up.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Blogging professionally would involve a tremendous amount of stress as if every post is n't just perfect , readership , and hence profit , will suffer.I 'm not sure this is the case .
Certainly with a lot of popular political blogs ( I 'm thinking especially of Little Green Footballs here , but there are many others ) , the proprietors spent a lot of time expressing their bold individual viewpoint six or seven years ago , but now that they 've made it big , they seem to just be phoning it in .
In fact , I notice that a lot of their posts nowadays start with " Reader X alerted me to this article " followed by a simple copy and paste of something published in the traditional media .
It does n't look like readership has suffered , because the amount of comments on each story has only been going up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blogging professionally would involve a tremendous amount of stress as if every post isn't just perfect, readership, and hence profit, will suffer.I'm not sure this is the case.
Certainly with a lot of popular political blogs (I'm thinking especially of Little Green Footballs here, but there are many others), the proprietors spent a lot of time expressing their bold individual viewpoint six or seven years ago, but now that they've made it big, they seem to just be phoning it in.
In fact, I notice that a lot of their posts nowadays start with "Reader X alerted me to this article" followed by a simple copy and paste of something published in the traditional media.
It doesn't look like readership has suffered, because the amount of comments on each story has only been going up.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365463</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365623</id>
	<title>Re:Not true</title>
	<author>stoolpigeon</author>
	<datestamp>1245229920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So basically what you are telling us is that Google ad sense has payed you almost nothing?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So basically what you are telling us is that Google ad sense has payed you almost nothing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So basically what you are telling us is that Google ad sense has payed you almost nothing?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365533</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365677</id>
	<title>Some content is worth more than others.</title>
	<author>Rachel Lucid</author>
	<datestamp>1245230160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It depends on what you're offering.</p><p>If your blog talks about education (like yours seems to) or other high-profile niches, there's money in it. If your passion is in something more obscure like knitting in the round, don't expect people to pay you $.30 a click.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It depends on what you 're offering.If your blog talks about education ( like yours seems to ) or other high-profile niches , there 's money in it .
If your passion is in something more obscure like knitting in the round , do n't expect people to pay you $ .30 a click .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It depends on what you're offering.If your blog talks about education (like yours seems to) or other high-profile niches, there's money in it.
If your passion is in something more obscure like knitting in the round, don't expect people to pay you $.30 a click.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365533</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365861</id>
	<title>Blogs never could make money</title>
	<author>Alcoholist</author>
	<datestamp>1245231060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not sure why people ever thought blogs could make money.</p><p>I've been writing a blog for years but I was never so deluded to assume that millions of people would want to read my rantings and sponsors would want to shower me with money.  I just do it because I like it.  There may be some people who enjoy what I write, but not nearly enough to warrant an advertiser spending $2000/mo on me.</p><p>Putting some Google Ads on your blog always struck me as sort of desperate looking, like you were imagining yourself as the next Ann Landers or something.  And face it, you're not.  Even if you are a great writer, part of the problem is there are so many blogs available.  Even if we assume only a million of them are properly active and not shit, who in their right mind would think that the world (or in my case, the English speaking world) could possibly support a million little magazines with advertising?  Multiply $2000/month by one million and the number that pops out is 24 billion dollars a year.  A pretty big price tag for citizen journalism and obviously the advertising market isn't going to pay it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure why people ever thought blogs could make money.I 've been writing a blog for years but I was never so deluded to assume that millions of people would want to read my rantings and sponsors would want to shower me with money .
I just do it because I like it .
There may be some people who enjoy what I write , but not nearly enough to warrant an advertiser spending $ 2000/mo on me.Putting some Google Ads on your blog always struck me as sort of desperate looking , like you were imagining yourself as the next Ann Landers or something .
And face it , you 're not .
Even if you are a great writer , part of the problem is there are so many blogs available .
Even if we assume only a million of them are properly active and not shit , who in their right mind would think that the world ( or in my case , the English speaking world ) could possibly support a million little magazines with advertising ?
Multiply $ 2000/month by one million and the number that pops out is 24 billion dollars a year .
A pretty big price tag for citizen journalism and obviously the advertising market is n't going to pay it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure why people ever thought blogs could make money.I've been writing a blog for years but I was never so deluded to assume that millions of people would want to read my rantings and sponsors would want to shower me with money.
I just do it because I like it.
There may be some people who enjoy what I write, but not nearly enough to warrant an advertiser spending $2000/mo on me.Putting some Google Ads on your blog always struck me as sort of desperate looking, like you were imagining yourself as the next Ann Landers or something.
And face it, you're not.
Even if you are a great writer, part of the problem is there are so many blogs available.
Even if we assume only a million of them are properly active and not shit, who in their right mind would think that the world (or in my case, the English speaking world) could possibly support a million little magazines with advertising?
Multiply $2000/month by one million and the number that pops out is 24 billion dollars a year.
A pretty big price tag for citizen journalism and obviously the advertising market isn't going to pay it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366501</id>
	<title>Re:Building a website takes time</title>
	<author>ThousandStars</author>
	<datestamp>1245234180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Having a good, professional blog is a way of showing people what you can do, and it inspires confidence,</i>

<p>Indeed, and that's the point of the second half of the <a href="http://blog.seliger.com/2009/06/17/youre-not-going-to-be-a-pro" title="seliger.com">original post</a> [seliger.com]: you're not going to make money through selling ads, or whatever. Rather, anything you might make is indirect through signaling your expertise in a way that's exceedingly difficult if not effectively impossible to fake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having a good , professional blog is a way of showing people what you can do , and it inspires confidence , Indeed , and that 's the point of the second half of the original post [ seliger.com ] : you 're not going to make money through selling ads , or whatever .
Rather , anything you might make is indirect through signaling your expertise in a way that 's exceedingly difficult if not effectively impossible to fake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having a good, professional blog is a way of showing people what you can do, and it inspires confidence,

Indeed, and that's the point of the second half of the original post [seliger.com]: you're not going to make money through selling ads, or whatever.
Rather, anything you might make is indirect through signaling your expertise in a way that's exceedingly difficult if not effectively impossible to fake.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365321</id>
	<title>Wake me up when..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245271560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..web advertising rates have risen to the point where they accurately reflect the value they can provide clients rather than being bogged down by the dinosaur media forms of print and tv commanding increasingly outdated and thus artificially inflated prices.</p><p>Until we wake up to the future, we'll still be uselessly dreaming of the past.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..web advertising rates have risen to the point where they accurately reflect the value they can provide clients rather than being bogged down by the dinosaur media forms of print and tv commanding increasingly outdated and thus artificially inflated prices.Until we wake up to the future , we 'll still be uselessly dreaming of the past .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..web advertising rates have risen to the point where they accurately reflect the value they can provide clients rather than being bogged down by the dinosaur media forms of print and tv commanding increasingly outdated and thus artificially inflated prices.Until we wake up to the future, we'll still be uselessly dreaming of the past.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366627</id>
	<title>Re:Well . . . .</title>
	<author>ThousandStars</author>
	<datestamp>1245234780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny you should say that--Penelope Trunk did write a post called <a href="http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/06/03/new-way-to-measure-blog-roi/" title="penelopetrunk.com">Blog ROI: Consider measuring the success of your blog by if it improves your sex life</a> [penelopetrunk.com]. Alas, that wasn't what I had in mind for the article I wrote...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny you should say that--Penelope Trunk did write a post called Blog ROI : Consider measuring the success of your blog by if it improves your sex life [ penelopetrunk.com ] .
Alas , that was n't what I had in mind for the article I wrote.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny you should say that--Penelope Trunk did write a post called Blog ROI: Consider measuring the success of your blog by if it improves your sex life [penelopetrunk.com].
Alas, that wasn't what I had in mind for the article I wrote...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365429</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365507</id>
	<title>That's what they all say.</title>
	<author>hardwarejunkie9</author>
	<datestamp>1245229320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just wait until I get picked up in the first round of the draft.
I'll be living the high life: macbook pro and a thousand twitter followers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just wait until I get picked up in the first round of the draft .
I 'll be living the high life : macbook pro and a thousand twitter followers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just wait until I get picked up in the first round of the draft.
I'll be living the high life: macbook pro and a thousand twitter followers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365647</id>
	<title>Building a website takes time</title>
	<author>Jarlsberg</author>
	<datestamp>1245229980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
It's like any business, it takes hard work and time before you see any revenues. I have a blog at <a href="http://blog.magicode.org/" title="magicode.org">http://blog.magicode.org/</a> [magicode.org] (<a href="http://mirror.magicode.org/" title="magicode.org">http://mirror.magicode.org/</a> [magicode.org] if it goes down, as it's hosted on my server in my home office) and I can tell you this, I'm not making a living on the ad revenues.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)
</p><p>
I code for a living. Having a good, professional blog is a way of showing people what you can do, and it inspires confidence, unless you put up pictures of yourself partying down, or post derogatory comments abour your ex-boss (or ex-wife, which is mostly the same thing, hehehe).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's like any business , it takes hard work and time before you see any revenues .
I have a blog at http : //blog.magicode.org/ [ magicode.org ] ( http : //mirror.magicode.org/ [ magicode.org ] if it goes down , as it 's hosted on my server in my home office ) and I can tell you this , I 'm not making a living on the ad revenues .
; ) I code for a living .
Having a good , professional blog is a way of showing people what you can do , and it inspires confidence , unless you put up pictures of yourself partying down , or post derogatory comments abour your ex-boss ( or ex-wife , which is mostly the same thing , hehehe ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
It's like any business, it takes hard work and time before you see any revenues.
I have a blog at http://blog.magicode.org/ [magicode.org] (http://mirror.magicode.org/ [magicode.org] if it goes down, as it's hosted on my server in my home office) and I can tell you this, I'm not making a living on the ad revenues.
;)

I code for a living.
Having a good, professional blog is a way of showing people what you can do, and it inspires confidence, unless you put up pictures of yourself partying down, or post derogatory comments abour your ex-boss (or ex-wife, which is mostly the same thing, hehehe).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365811</id>
	<title>Re:Um, news?</title>
	<author>WheelDweller</author>
	<datestamp>1245230760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm with ya, guy; *if* you can provide content, you've got to find that balance that provides a sample for the unitiated to try, while keeping your heavy-mover content protected, more or less. It's a balancing act most don't have the strength or maturity to achieve.</p><p>But long before that...content. Remember the sexually-ambiguous guy screaming "Leave Brittany Alone!"? That's not actually content. Whining, peeing, sleeping, talking about computers while drunk...those are all bodily functions, not entertainment.  Most blogs, speaking statistically, wind up more like diary entries than anything, and rarely does that count, either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm with ya , guy ; * if * you can provide content , you 've got to find that balance that provides a sample for the unitiated to try , while keeping your heavy-mover content protected , more or less .
It 's a balancing act most do n't have the strength or maturity to achieve.But long before that...content .
Remember the sexually-ambiguous guy screaming " Leave Brittany Alone ! " ?
That 's not actually content .
Whining , peeing , sleeping , talking about computers while drunk...those are all bodily functions , not entertainment .
Most blogs , speaking statistically , wind up more like diary entries than anything , and rarely does that count , either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm with ya, guy; *if* you can provide content, you've got to find that balance that provides a sample for the unitiated to try, while keeping your heavy-mover content protected, more or less.
It's a balancing act most don't have the strength or maturity to achieve.But long before that...content.
Remember the sexually-ambiguous guy screaming "Leave Brittany Alone!"?
That's not actually content.
Whining, peeing, sleeping, talking about computers while drunk...those are all bodily functions, not entertainment.
Most blogs, speaking statistically, wind up more like diary entries than anything, and rarely does that count, either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366163</id>
	<title>Blogging for a living is hard to do</title>
	<author>Orion Blastar</author>
	<datestamp>1245232680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>at best the web ads would help pay the ISP bill, but doubtful they will make someone a millionaire. Remember that most ISPs that host web sites charge per bandwidth. That means the more people that visit your web site blog, the more bandwidth they will eat up. You have to figure out a formula or use accounting software to figure out if your web ads are bringing in a profit.</p><p>Basically if you are going to blog professionally you have to have a blog about something interesting enough to get a majority of people to visit it, and deliver content on a daily basis that is original and entertaining or interesting enough to keep people coming back to it. Not only that but you have to try and avoid offending people so that you don't lose your audience. Plus it has to be something legal or else your blog can be shut down and you face criminal or civil charges.</p><p>The blogs that have been successful have used affiliate adds that advertise to sell a product from say Amazon.com or Barnes and Nobel or some other company that you link to a book or product that has something to do with what you are blogging on and they pay you back a fraction of the purchase. That means your loyal readers will have to keep purchasing the products you advertise on your blogs in order for you to earn money. Some readers will be annoyed that you have web advertisement and some will use adblock plus on Firefox or adblock pro on Internet Explorer to block out your web ads and you don't earn anything from them.</p><p>Some people claim that the free web is over, and that professional blogs only show most recent blogs and then charge a fee for membership access to look at the archive of blogs. Many newspapers are starting to do this, while others are going with eBook readers like Kindle to sell electronic versions of their newspapers. Basically a professional blog is like a newspaper, because you expect the writer to be more of a journalist that checks facts and cites sources and is more professional than the armature bloggers out there who don't always check facts and cite sources.</p><p>Some professional blogs blog by serving up audio and video files of themselves talking instead of writing text and then insert advertising into the file in order to pay for it. Others only serve up those audio and video files by membership fees.</p><p>Since the problem of people not wanting to pay for a membership or only want access to a few blogs or files, some professional blogs take micropayments in that it costs $1 to $5 per article or file to download it to your computer.</p><p>But the problem comes in that when blogs and other web sites go to membership only, how do you cite a link to their material when only members can access it and you cannot share your account? Sure you cite and link to the web site, but then people who cannot afford membership will refuse to believe you or ask you to cite a "free" web site that says the same thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>at best the web ads would help pay the ISP bill , but doubtful they will make someone a millionaire .
Remember that most ISPs that host web sites charge per bandwidth .
That means the more people that visit your web site blog , the more bandwidth they will eat up .
You have to figure out a formula or use accounting software to figure out if your web ads are bringing in a profit.Basically if you are going to blog professionally you have to have a blog about something interesting enough to get a majority of people to visit it , and deliver content on a daily basis that is original and entertaining or interesting enough to keep people coming back to it .
Not only that but you have to try and avoid offending people so that you do n't lose your audience .
Plus it has to be something legal or else your blog can be shut down and you face criminal or civil charges.The blogs that have been successful have used affiliate adds that advertise to sell a product from say Amazon.com or Barnes and Nobel or some other company that you link to a book or product that has something to do with what you are blogging on and they pay you back a fraction of the purchase .
That means your loyal readers will have to keep purchasing the products you advertise on your blogs in order for you to earn money .
Some readers will be annoyed that you have web advertisement and some will use adblock plus on Firefox or adblock pro on Internet Explorer to block out your web ads and you do n't earn anything from them.Some people claim that the free web is over , and that professional blogs only show most recent blogs and then charge a fee for membership access to look at the archive of blogs .
Many newspapers are starting to do this , while others are going with eBook readers like Kindle to sell electronic versions of their newspapers .
Basically a professional blog is like a newspaper , because you expect the writer to be more of a journalist that checks facts and cites sources and is more professional than the armature bloggers out there who do n't always check facts and cite sources.Some professional blogs blog by serving up audio and video files of themselves talking instead of writing text and then insert advertising into the file in order to pay for it .
Others only serve up those audio and video files by membership fees.Since the problem of people not wanting to pay for a membership or only want access to a few blogs or files , some professional blogs take micropayments in that it costs $ 1 to $ 5 per article or file to download it to your computer.But the problem comes in that when blogs and other web sites go to membership only , how do you cite a link to their material when only members can access it and you can not share your account ?
Sure you cite and link to the web site , but then people who can not afford membership will refuse to believe you or ask you to cite a " free " web site that says the same thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>at best the web ads would help pay the ISP bill, but doubtful they will make someone a millionaire.
Remember that most ISPs that host web sites charge per bandwidth.
That means the more people that visit your web site blog, the more bandwidth they will eat up.
You have to figure out a formula or use accounting software to figure out if your web ads are bringing in a profit.Basically if you are going to blog professionally you have to have a blog about something interesting enough to get a majority of people to visit it, and deliver content on a daily basis that is original and entertaining or interesting enough to keep people coming back to it.
Not only that but you have to try and avoid offending people so that you don't lose your audience.
Plus it has to be something legal or else your blog can be shut down and you face criminal or civil charges.The blogs that have been successful have used affiliate adds that advertise to sell a product from say Amazon.com or Barnes and Nobel or some other company that you link to a book or product that has something to do with what you are blogging on and they pay you back a fraction of the purchase.
That means your loyal readers will have to keep purchasing the products you advertise on your blogs in order for you to earn money.
Some readers will be annoyed that you have web advertisement and some will use adblock plus on Firefox or adblock pro on Internet Explorer to block out your web ads and you don't earn anything from them.Some people claim that the free web is over, and that professional blogs only show most recent blogs and then charge a fee for membership access to look at the archive of blogs.
Many newspapers are starting to do this, while others are going with eBook readers like Kindle to sell electronic versions of their newspapers.
Basically a professional blog is like a newspaper, because you expect the writer to be more of a journalist that checks facts and cites sources and is more professional than the armature bloggers out there who don't always check facts and cite sources.Some professional blogs blog by serving up audio and video files of themselves talking instead of writing text and then insert advertising into the file in order to pay for it.
Others only serve up those audio and video files by membership fees.Since the problem of people not wanting to pay for a membership or only want access to a few blogs or files, some professional blogs take micropayments in that it costs $1 to $5 per article or file to download it to your computer.But the problem comes in that when blogs and other web sites go to membership only, how do you cite a link to their material when only members can access it and you cannot share your account?
Sure you cite and link to the web site, but then people who cannot afford membership will refuse to believe you or ask you to cite a "free" web site that says the same thing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28368231</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245245460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Damn it, don't give out all the secrets away!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn it , do n't give out all the secrets away !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn it, don't give out all the secrets away!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28373623</id>
	<title>Re:Wake me up when..</title>
	<author>bconway</author>
	<datestamp>1245338220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Things are only worth what people are willing to pay for them. Just because you <i>think</i> your Magic: The Gathering card collection is worth $100K doesn't mean it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Things are only worth what people are willing to pay for them .
Just because you think your Magic : The Gathering card collection is worth $ 100K does n't mean it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Things are only worth what people are willing to pay for them.
Just because you think your Magic: The Gathering card collection is worth $100K doesn't mean it is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365427</id>
	<title>Um, news?</title>
	<author>Rachel Lucid</author>
	<datestamp>1245272040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Getting paid to blog is like getting paid to write. You don't just produce stuff and get paid (unless you're a novelist... good luck!), you produce stuff and get hired to MAKE SOMETHING LIKE IT.</p><p>It points out (correctly) that if you wanna make money blogging, you sell something that isn't just your content. Even if you're only a writer, you can still sell frickin' e-books at a few bucks a pop instead of always giving it away. (of course, holding ALL your work behind the golden door doesn't work either. You've got to strike a balance, even if the balance usually leans towards "give away most of it".</p><p>It's stunning how few people realize this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Getting paid to blog is like getting paid to write .
You do n't just produce stuff and get paid ( unless you 're a novelist... good luck !
) , you produce stuff and get hired to MAKE SOMETHING LIKE IT.It points out ( correctly ) that if you wan na make money blogging , you sell something that is n't just your content .
Even if you 're only a writer , you can still sell frickin ' e-books at a few bucks a pop instead of always giving it away .
( of course , holding ALL your work behind the golden door does n't work either .
You 've got to strike a balance , even if the balance usually leans towards " give away most of it " .It 's stunning how few people realize this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Getting paid to blog is like getting paid to write.
You don't just produce stuff and get paid (unless you're a novelist... good luck!
), you produce stuff and get hired to MAKE SOMETHING LIKE IT.It points out (correctly) that if you wanna make money blogging, you sell something that isn't just your content.
Even if you're only a writer, you can still sell frickin' e-books at a few bucks a pop instead of always giving it away.
(of course, holding ALL your work behind the golden door doesn't work either.
You've got to strike a balance, even if the balance usually leans towards "give away most of it".It's stunning how few people realize this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366523</id>
	<title>Re:Um, news?</title>
	<author>servognome</author>
	<datestamp>1245234300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It's interesting that the Wall Street Journal would publish a story trying to discourage individuals from making money on the Internet.</p></div></blockquote><p>Not only would they publish such an article, the WSJ actually <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/2007/11/wsj-execs-please-dont-make-us-free" title="businessinsider.com">faces the digital convesrion conundrum</a> [businessinsider.com] under Murdoch.<br>What they point out is that in the world of blogging, much like <a href="http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/4038/persuasive\_games\_i\_want\_my\_99\_.php" title="gamasutra.com">iTunes app store publishing</a> [gamasutra.com] a creator faces perfect competition.  Facing an industry with 0 economic profit, differentiation and other services are needed for economic profitability.  That's why selling of merchandise, or other value added services is important for creating a viable blogging business.<br>This isn't just for the individual, it's for anybody getting involved in the blogging world.  Corporations have the advanatage of leveraging their existing trademark, or as we often see spending millions of dollars to buy an already popular blog.  Ultimately they face the same problems of selling something other than their blog to pull of a real profit.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's interesting that the Wall Street Journal would publish a story trying to discourage individuals from making money on the Internet.Not only would they publish such an article , the WSJ actually faces the digital convesrion conundrum [ businessinsider.com ] under Murdoch.What they point out is that in the world of blogging , much like iTunes app store publishing [ gamasutra.com ] a creator faces perfect competition .
Facing an industry with 0 economic profit , differentiation and other services are needed for economic profitability .
That 's why selling of merchandise , or other value added services is important for creating a viable blogging business.This is n't just for the individual , it 's for anybody getting involved in the blogging world .
Corporations have the advanatage of leveraging their existing trademark , or as we often see spending millions of dollars to buy an already popular blog .
Ultimately they face the same problems of selling something other than their blog to pull of a real profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's interesting that the Wall Street Journal would publish a story trying to discourage individuals from making money on the Internet.Not only would they publish such an article, the WSJ actually faces the digital convesrion conundrum [businessinsider.com] under Murdoch.What they point out is that in the world of blogging, much like iTunes app store publishing [gamasutra.com] a creator faces perfect competition.
Facing an industry with 0 economic profit, differentiation and other services are needed for economic profitability.
That's why selling of merchandise, or other value added services is important for creating a viable blogging business.This isn't just for the individual, it's for anybody getting involved in the blogging world.
Corporations have the advanatage of leveraging their existing trademark, or as we often see spending millions of dollars to buy an already popular blog.
Ultimately they face the same problems of selling something other than their blog to pull of a real profit.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365689</id>
	<title>True, but so what?</title>
	<author>Punk CPA</author>
	<datestamp>1245230220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Step 1: Start blog<br>
Step 2: ???<br>
Step 3: Profit!<br> <br>

People who believe they will make their fortune from a blog need to read up on the internet bubble.  Eyeballs are not dollars, as investors discovered.  A blog is just another kind of website.  If you are selling your services, a blog is a great way of showing your expertise.  You must make your money by actually doing something, though, not by writing about it.  The blog just shows prospective clients what you know.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 1 : Start blog Step 2 : ? ? ?
Step 3 : Profit !
People who believe they will make their fortune from a blog need to read up on the internet bubble .
Eyeballs are not dollars , as investors discovered .
A blog is just another kind of website .
If you are selling your services , a blog is a great way of showing your expertise .
You must make your money by actually doing something , though , not by writing about it .
The blog just shows prospective clients what you know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 1: Start blog
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit!
People who believe they will make their fortune from a blog need to read up on the internet bubble.
Eyeballs are not dollars, as investors discovered.
A blog is just another kind of website.
If you are selling your services, a blog is a great way of showing your expertise.
You must make your money by actually doing something, though, not by writing about it.
The blog just shows prospective clients what you know.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366087</id>
	<title>Thank you Captain Obvious!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1245232320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who would have thunk of that?</p><p>And guess what: This is the case for <em>all</em> websites, which do not sell real products or services that are worth money.</p><p>I also add: <a href="http://navid.radiantempire.com/pub/danke\_hauptmann.jpg" title="radiantempire.com">http://navid.radiantempire.com/pub/danke\_hauptmann.jpg</a> [radiantempire.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who would have thunk of that ? And guess what : This is the case for all websites , which do not sell real products or services that are worth money.I also add : http : //navid.radiantempire.com/pub/danke \ _hauptmann.jpg [ radiantempire.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who would have thunk of that?And guess what: This is the case for all websites, which do not sell real products or services that are worth money.I also add: http://navid.radiantempire.com/pub/danke\_hauptmann.jpg [radiantempire.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28368007</id>
	<title>Re:Well . . . .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245243840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good man.  Nothing passes by this guy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good man .
Nothing passes by this guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good man.
Nothing passes by this guy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366159</id>
	<title>Blogs!?  What the hell?</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1245232680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Weblogs?  Are we still talking about those?  What is this, 2003?  Honestly that's what I thought when I saw the article summary.  MAKE.MONEY.FAST with your blog!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Weblogs ?
Are we still talking about those ?
What is this , 2003 ?
Honestly that 's what I thought when I saw the article summary .
MAKE.MONEY.FAST with your blog !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Weblogs?
Are we still talking about those?
What is this, 2003?
Honestly that's what I thought when I saw the article summary.
MAKE.MONEY.FAST with your blog!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365931</id>
	<title>Re:Um, news?</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1245231480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's interesting that the Wall Street Journal would publish a story trying to discourage individuals from making money on the Internet.</p><p>You would never see an article discouraging <i>corporations</i> from doing the same, however.  An individual who writes a blog and tries to have advertising and eke out a living is a "loser" but a corporation that spends millions to start up some cockamamie Web 3.0 nonsense and lasts a year and goes down in flames, losing their investors' money is "visionary" and "too far ahead of the curve".</p><p>Isn't it ironic that this icon of the mainstream publishing industry, which is trying to play catchup with bloggers who have basically been eating the mainstream publishing industry's lunch, causing dozens of major newspapers to go under and in fact causing the Wall Street Journal's original owners to sell the paper to Rupert Murdoch, is all of a sudden trying to discourage the same bloggers who they are trying their best to emulate.</p><p>I know it sounds like I'm making a campy joke, but I believe this with all my heart:  The Wall Street Journal is a "capitalist tool" to enrich a very few people.</p><p>They have an agenda which relies upon them beating the bloggers at their own game.  They should absolutely not be trusted in regards to this article.</p><p>If you want to find business data or insightful business journalism, there are several individual and group bloggers that do a better job without the self-serving agenda.  We've seen this in several areas of journalism- political, foreign affairs, technology, etc.- where the mainstream publishing industry was several steps behind the curve, and behind the bloggers.  Is it any wonder that they'd try to discourage people from blogging?  And if somebody wants to pay the 3 bucks a month for hosting and put up a blog that doesn't make any money, why is the Wall Street Journal so concerned?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's interesting that the Wall Street Journal would publish a story trying to discourage individuals from making money on the Internet.You would never see an article discouraging corporations from doing the same , however .
An individual who writes a blog and tries to have advertising and eke out a living is a " loser " but a corporation that spends millions to start up some cockamamie Web 3.0 nonsense and lasts a year and goes down in flames , losing their investors ' money is " visionary " and " too far ahead of the curve " .Is n't it ironic that this icon of the mainstream publishing industry , which is trying to play catchup with bloggers who have basically been eating the mainstream publishing industry 's lunch , causing dozens of major newspapers to go under and in fact causing the Wall Street Journal 's original owners to sell the paper to Rupert Murdoch , is all of a sudden trying to discourage the same bloggers who they are trying their best to emulate.I know it sounds like I 'm making a campy joke , but I believe this with all my heart : The Wall Street Journal is a " capitalist tool " to enrich a very few people.They have an agenda which relies upon them beating the bloggers at their own game .
They should absolutely not be trusted in regards to this article.If you want to find business data or insightful business journalism , there are several individual and group bloggers that do a better job without the self-serving agenda .
We 've seen this in several areas of journalism- political , foreign affairs , technology , etc.- where the mainstream publishing industry was several steps behind the curve , and behind the bloggers .
Is it any wonder that they 'd try to discourage people from blogging ?
And if somebody wants to pay the 3 bucks a month for hosting and put up a blog that does n't make any money , why is the Wall Street Journal so concerned ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's interesting that the Wall Street Journal would publish a story trying to discourage individuals from making money on the Internet.You would never see an article discouraging corporations from doing the same, however.
An individual who writes a blog and tries to have advertising and eke out a living is a "loser" but a corporation that spends millions to start up some cockamamie Web 3.0 nonsense and lasts a year and goes down in flames, losing their investors' money is "visionary" and "too far ahead of the curve".Isn't it ironic that this icon of the mainstream publishing industry, which is trying to play catchup with bloggers who have basically been eating the mainstream publishing industry's lunch, causing dozens of major newspapers to go under and in fact causing the Wall Street Journal's original owners to sell the paper to Rupert Murdoch, is all of a sudden trying to discourage the same bloggers who they are trying their best to emulate.I know it sounds like I'm making a campy joke, but I believe this with all my heart:  The Wall Street Journal is a "capitalist tool" to enrich a very few people.They have an agenda which relies upon them beating the bloggers at their own game.
They should absolutely not be trusted in regards to this article.If you want to find business data or insightful business journalism, there are several individual and group bloggers that do a better job without the self-serving agenda.
We've seen this in several areas of journalism- political, foreign affairs, technology, etc.- where the mainstream publishing industry was several steps behind the curve, and behind the bloggers.
Is it any wonder that they'd try to discourage people from blogging?
And if somebody wants to pay the 3 bucks a month for hosting and put up a blog that doesn't make any money, why is the Wall Street Journal so concerned?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28369579</id>
	<title>Re:Um, news?</title>
	<author>martin-boundary</author>
	<datestamp>1245259320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>My perception of what is killing
  newspapers is that people can get vetted news (Reuters and AP for example)
  stories for FREE in a preferable delivery system</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
It's not the FREE aspect that's killing newspapers, even if people had to pay for Reuters feeds, it wouldn't help newspapers. What's killing the newspapers is DUPLICATION of content. There's simply not enough room in the (even worldwide) market for lots of newspapers which offer 90\% identical information.
</p><p>
The only way they might be able to survive is if they offer substantially different original content. But that costs money to produce, paying journalists to investigate local news instead of cutting and pasting press releases implies unacceptable cuts into shareholder profits, especially if the newspaper belongs to a media empire. Moreover, a focus on local news also implies foregoing the bigger national and international markets in favour of a smaller market.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My perception of what is killing newspapers is that people can get vetted news ( Reuters and AP for example ) stories for FREE in a preferable delivery system It 's not the FREE aspect that 's killing newspapers , even if people had to pay for Reuters feeds , it would n't help newspapers .
What 's killing the newspapers is DUPLICATION of content .
There 's simply not enough room in the ( even worldwide ) market for lots of newspapers which offer 90 \ % identical information .
The only way they might be able to survive is if they offer substantially different original content .
But that costs money to produce , paying journalists to investigate local news instead of cutting and pasting press releases implies unacceptable cuts into shareholder profits , especially if the newspaper belongs to a media empire .
Moreover , a focus on local news also implies foregoing the bigger national and international markets in favour of a smaller market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My perception of what is killing
  newspapers is that people can get vetted news (Reuters and AP for example)
  stories for FREE in a preferable delivery system

It's not the FREE aspect that's killing newspapers, even if people had to pay for Reuters feeds, it wouldn't help newspapers.
What's killing the newspapers is DUPLICATION of content.
There's simply not enough room in the (even worldwide) market for lots of newspapers which offer 90\% identical information.
The only way they might be able to survive is if they offer substantially different original content.
But that costs money to produce, paying journalists to investigate local news instead of cutting and pasting press releases implies unacceptable cuts into shareholder profits, especially if the newspaper belongs to a media empire.
Moreover, a focus on local news also implies foregoing the bigger national and international markets in favour of a smaller market.

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28368619</id>
	<title>Re:Blogs never could make money</title>
	<author>metamorphage</author>
	<datestamp>1245249720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seeing as there are people who support themselves from their blogs, you are incorrect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seeing as there are people who support themselves from their blogs , you are incorrect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seeing as there are people who support themselves from their blogs, you are incorrect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365707</id>
	<title>Re:More to the point, who wants to do so?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245230340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>True. I'd never annoy my few readers with google ads and other advertising crap that would make me a few cents per year. Its usually the non-commercial blogs that are the most interesting to read anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>True .
I 'd never annoy my few readers with google ads and other advertising crap that would make me a few cents per year .
Its usually the non-commercial blogs that are the most interesting to read anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True.
I'd never annoy my few readers with google ads and other advertising crap that would make me a few cents per year.
Its usually the non-commercial blogs that are the most interesting to read anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366171</id>
	<title>Re:Do it out of love first</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1245232740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which is the rule for all good art. If you always seek to please everyone, you will lose, or create stuff like Britney Spears and Electronic Arts.</p><p>The point is that great leaders give a lead, and make you believe that this is the best thing ever. If you seek to please everyone, you do not lead.</p><p>It's also the same rule that makes the men that know what they want more attractive, and defines the unspoken hierarchy in a group (where a tramp can be above a queen).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which is the rule for all good art .
If you always seek to please everyone , you will lose , or create stuff like Britney Spears and Electronic Arts.The point is that great leaders give a lead , and make you believe that this is the best thing ever .
If you seek to please everyone , you do not lead.It 's also the same rule that makes the men that know what they want more attractive , and defines the unspoken hierarchy in a group ( where a tramp can be above a queen ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which is the rule for all good art.
If you always seek to please everyone, you will lose, or create stuff like Britney Spears and Electronic Arts.The point is that great leaders give a lead, and make you believe that this is the best thing ever.
If you seek to please everyone, you do not lead.It's also the same rule that makes the men that know what they want more attractive, and defines the unspoken hierarchy in a group (where a tramp can be above a queen).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366053</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1245232200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"Secret Money Machine"? He writes a book on how to make money, sells it, and makes money? Is his book only one page with the following typed on it: "Write and sell a book describing how people can make lots of money."</i></p><p>I realise you're making a joke, but it's interesting to note that the only reason that this doesn't work exactly as described is that people realise they're being fooled straight away.</p><p>You don't walk up to someone you want to cheat and say "Hey can I cheat you" and expect it to work. Likewise the one page book won't work. Instead what has really worked is to draw this one page out into about 200 pages and convince people that there are deep insights. By the time they've worked out what's happening (if in fact they ever do) they'll have recommended the book to friends and family and be talking about those deep and life altering insights, which in turn drives sales of the book.</p><p>The only real problem is that creating such a vibe is very hit and miss and you're much more likely to have a book that flops before you can achieve the critical mass through word of mouth. Fashion is fickle. However many self help books that have happened to succeed and make their author rich are exactly what I've described.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Secret Money Machine " ?
He writes a book on how to make money , sells it , and makes money ?
Is his book only one page with the following typed on it : " Write and sell a book describing how people can make lots of money .
" I realise you 're making a joke , but it 's interesting to note that the only reason that this does n't work exactly as described is that people realise they 're being fooled straight away.You do n't walk up to someone you want to cheat and say " Hey can I cheat you " and expect it to work .
Likewise the one page book wo n't work .
Instead what has really worked is to draw this one page out into about 200 pages and convince people that there are deep insights .
By the time they 've worked out what 's happening ( if in fact they ever do ) they 'll have recommended the book to friends and family and be talking about those deep and life altering insights , which in turn drives sales of the book.The only real problem is that creating such a vibe is very hit and miss and you 're much more likely to have a book that flops before you can achieve the critical mass through word of mouth .
Fashion is fickle .
However many self help books that have happened to succeed and make their author rich are exactly what I 've described .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Secret Money Machine"?
He writes a book on how to make money, sells it, and makes money?
Is his book only one page with the following typed on it: "Write and sell a book describing how people can make lots of money.
"I realise you're making a joke, but it's interesting to note that the only reason that this doesn't work exactly as described is that people realise they're being fooled straight away.You don't walk up to someone you want to cheat and say "Hey can I cheat you" and expect it to work.
Likewise the one page book won't work.
Instead what has really worked is to draw this one page out into about 200 pages and convince people that there are deep insights.
By the time they've worked out what's happening (if in fact they ever do) they'll have recommended the book to friends and family and be talking about those deep and life altering insights, which in turn drives sales of the book.The only real problem is that creating such a vibe is very hit and miss and you're much more likely to have a book that flops before you can achieve the critical mass through word of mouth.
Fashion is fickle.
However many self help books that have happened to succeed and make their author rich are exactly what I've described.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366193</id>
	<title>Re:Wake me up when..</title>
	<author>vertinox</author>
	<datestamp>1245232800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>.web advertising rates have risen to the point where they accurately reflect the value they can provide clients rather than being bogged down by the dinosaur media forms of print and tv commanding increasingly outdated and thus artificially inflated prices.</i></p><p>That and lack of a decent micropayment solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.web advertising rates have risen to the point where they accurately reflect the value they can provide clients rather than being bogged down by the dinosaur media forms of print and tv commanding increasingly outdated and thus artificially inflated prices.That and lack of a decent micropayment solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.web advertising rates have risen to the point where they accurately reflect the value they can provide clients rather than being bogged down by the dinosaur media forms of print and tv commanding increasingly outdated and thus artificially inflated prices.That and lack of a decent micropayment solution.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366101</id>
	<title>Re:Not true</title>
	<author>basementman</author>
	<datestamp>1245232440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google is a shitty way to monetize compared to direct ad sales, ad sales from a large network, or affiliate marketing. You might get $0.30-$1.00 in a high paying niche, but that same high paying niche will do much better with other monetization methods.</p><p>The problem is people think that blogging about their boring lives for a weeo and throwing adsense up there will make you a millionaire. It doesn't work like that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google is a shitty way to monetize compared to direct ad sales , ad sales from a large network , or affiliate marketing .
You might get $ 0.30- $ 1.00 in a high paying niche , but that same high paying niche will do much better with other monetization methods.The problem is people think that blogging about their boring lives for a weeo and throwing adsense up there will make you a millionaire .
It does n't work like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google is a shitty way to monetize compared to direct ad sales, ad sales from a large network, or affiliate marketing.
You might get $0.30-$1.00 in a high paying niche, but that same high paying niche will do much better with other monetization methods.The problem is people think that blogging about their boring lives for a weeo and throwing adsense up there will make you a millionaire.
It doesn't work like that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28374307</id>
	<title>Knock me down with a feather</title>
	<author>chicago\_scott</author>
	<datestamp>1245341160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The WSJ published an article that didn't contain the word Socialist and the name Obama? Am I dreaming?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The WSJ published an article that did n't contain the word Socialist and the name Obama ?
Am I dreaming ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The WSJ published an article that didn't contain the word Socialist and the name Obama?
Am I dreaming?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28366227</id>
	<title>It's a full time job</title>
	<author>OutputLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1245232920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Having some talent is one thing. But running a good blogging site is also a time-consuming job. Think about how much time it takes to write a quality post that attract a lot of traffic. Another thing is promote that blog. It requires constant attention.
Don't reply to comments for a few weeks and you'll see the traffic drops significantly.
So I'd argue that people who spend a lot of time blogging and promoting it have a chance to earn some money.
<br> <br> <a href="http://outputlogic.com/" title="outputlogic.com" rel="nofollow">OutputLogic</a> [outputlogic.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Having some talent is one thing .
But running a good blogging site is also a time-consuming job .
Think about how much time it takes to write a quality post that attract a lot of traffic .
Another thing is promote that blog .
It requires constant attention .
Do n't reply to comments for a few weeks and you 'll see the traffic drops significantly .
So I 'd argue that people who spend a lot of time blogging and promoting it have a chance to earn some money .
OutputLogic [ outputlogic.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having some talent is one thing.
But running a good blogging site is also a time-consuming job.
Think about how much time it takes to write a quality post that attract a lot of traffic.
Another thing is promote that blog.
It requires constant attention.
Don't reply to comments for a few weeks and you'll see the traffic drops significantly.
So I'd argue that people who spend a lot of time blogging and promoting it have a chance to earn some money.
OutputLogic [outputlogic.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365845</id>
	<title>2 cents</title>
	<author>wrencherd</author>
	<datestamp>1245230940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Including<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. and (now) the blog cited here (and the WP article that it refers to), I've been "told" by at least 4 media outlets about how boingboing is one of the most popular blogs in the universe, yet I've never visited it and have no plans to do so at any time in the future.  So the blogger could be right--the author is not making very much money--or maybe the WP article is right--he's cleaning up.</p><p>Either way I'm still not going to visit.</p><p>2. It seems like it would be a good thing if blogging is no longer undertaken as a way to get-rich-quick.  That would seem to mean that the ones who are still doing it are doing it for some reason other than money: i.e. for free.  If it weren't for people who did things for free (or at least on spec) there'd be no personal computers, no Linux, no US Constitution and no Holy Bible.</p><p>Look at this way, maybe some blogger will come up with an open source religion, like "Jezux: Put the fun back in prayer."</p><p>"Hinduxism", with a six-winged penguin-god.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Including / .
and ( now ) the blog cited here ( and the WP article that it refers to ) , I 've been " told " by at least 4 media outlets about how boingboing is one of the most popular blogs in the universe , yet I 've never visited it and have no plans to do so at any time in the future .
So the blogger could be right--the author is not making very much money--or maybe the WP article is right--he 's cleaning up.Either way I 'm still not going to visit.2 .
It seems like it would be a good thing if blogging is no longer undertaken as a way to get-rich-quick .
That would seem to mean that the ones who are still doing it are doing it for some reason other than money : i.e .
for free .
If it were n't for people who did things for free ( or at least on spec ) there 'd be no personal computers , no Linux , no US Constitution and no Holy Bible.Look at this way , maybe some blogger will come up with an open source religion , like " Jezux : Put the fun back in prayer .
" " Hinduxism " , with a six-winged penguin-god .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Including /.
and (now) the blog cited here (and the WP article that it refers to), I've been "told" by at least 4 media outlets about how boingboing is one of the most popular blogs in the universe, yet I've never visited it and have no plans to do so at any time in the future.
So the blogger could be right--the author is not making very much money--or maybe the WP article is right--he's cleaning up.Either way I'm still not going to visit.2.
It seems like it would be a good thing if blogging is no longer undertaken as a way to get-rich-quick.
That would seem to mean that the ones who are still doing it are doing it for some reason other than money: i.e.
for free.
If it weren't for people who did things for free (or at least on spec) there'd be no personal computers, no Linux, no US Constitution and no Holy Bible.Look at this way, maybe some blogger will come up with an open source religion, like "Jezux: Put the fun back in prayer.
""Hinduxism", with a six-winged penguin-god.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_17_1938241.28365673</id>
	<title>Isn't this kind of obvious?</title>
	<author>gubers33</author>
	<datestamp>1245230160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>At least I think it is. Writing is like any other talent that millions of people can do, but not all can do well. Those few who can do their talent  extremely well get paid for it. It is just like sports. Millions of kids play little league, but only a few thousand play minor league or college ball, and only a smaller few play in the MLB. Compare this to writing blogs, millions do it, a few thousands have blogs with some advertising and a smaller few get paid big bucks to do it professionally.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least I think it is .
Writing is like any other talent that millions of people can do , but not all can do well .
Those few who can do their talent extremely well get paid for it .
It is just like sports .
Millions of kids play little league , but only a few thousand play minor league or college ball , and only a smaller few play in the MLB .
Compare this to writing blogs , millions do it , a few thousands have blogs with some advertising and a smaller few get paid big bucks to do it professionally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least I think it is.
Writing is like any other talent that millions of people can do, but not all can do well.
Those few who can do their talent  extremely well get paid for it.
It is just like sports.
Millions of kids play little league, but only a few thousand play minor league or college ball, and only a smaller few play in the MLB.
Compare this to writing blogs, millions do it, a few thousands have blogs with some advertising and a smaller few get paid big bucks to do it professionally.</sentencetext>
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