<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_14_0118200</id>
	<title>Microsoft Seeking Hot-Or-Not Patent</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1245003120000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:theodp@aol.com" rel="nofollow">theodp</a> writes <i>"In its just-disclosed patent application for the <a href="http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PG01&amp;p=1&amp;u=\%2Fnetahtml\%2FPTO\%2Fsrchnum.html&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=\%2220090150203\%22.PGNR.&amp;OS=DN/20090150203&amp;RS=DN/20090150203">Online Personal Appearance Advisor</a>, Microsoft describes the 'invention' of its three Microsoft Research employees in these words: 'The contributor uploads self images for viewing and rating (or voting) by viewers who choose provide an opinion on different fashion and/or cosmetic looks of the contributor.' So what do you think &mdash; is Microsoft's invention really <a href="http://www.hotornot.com/">Hot or Not</a>?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>theodp writes " In its just-disclosed patent application for the Online Personal Appearance Advisor , Microsoft describes the 'invention ' of its three Microsoft Research employees in these words : 'The contributor uploads self images for viewing and rating ( or voting ) by viewers who choose provide an opinion on different fashion and/or cosmetic looks of the contributor .
' So what do you think    is Microsoft 's invention really Hot or Not ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>theodp writes "In its just-disclosed patent application for the Online Personal Appearance Advisor, Microsoft describes the 'invention' of its three Microsoft Research employees in these words: 'The contributor uploads self images for viewing and rating (or voting) by viewers who choose provide an opinion on different fashion and/or cosmetic looks of the contributor.
' So what do you think — is Microsoft's invention really Hot or Not?
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326373</id>
	<title>Re:29/m/Australia</title>
	<author>PrescriptionWarning</author>
	<datestamp>1244992500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well assuming you have an Australian accent you can probably still melt panties in any American bar and/or club simply by saying a few key words made famous by the Crocodile Hunter</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well assuming you have an Australian accent you can probably still melt panties in any American bar and/or club simply by saying a few key words made famous by the Crocodile Hunter</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well assuming you have an Australian accent you can probably still melt panties in any American bar and/or club simply by saying a few key words made famous by the Crocodile Hunter</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325019</id>
	<title>It's not really the same</title>
	<author>jperl</author>
	<datestamp>1244922060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well Hot or Not is mainly about breasts and not about fashion. This is what might differ.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well Hot or Not is mainly about breasts and not about fashion .
This is what might differ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well Hot or Not is mainly about breasts and not about fashion.
This is what might differ.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28330259</id>
	<title>Re:Patents = $ for Employees</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244984220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not true anymore.  Some patents are worth $500 or $1000; I don't know anyone getting $2500.  Also, engineers have to write them now - of course with help from the patent lawyer.
--current MSFTy</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not true anymore .
Some patents are worth $ 500 or $ 1000 ; I do n't know anyone getting $ 2500 .
Also , engineers have to write them now - of course with help from the patent lawyer .
--current MSFTy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not true anymore.
Some patents are worth $500 or $1000; I don't know anyone getting $2500.
Also, engineers have to write them now - of course with help from the patent lawyer.
--current MSFTy</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325429</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325375</id>
	<title>To be fair...</title>
	<author>Pictish Prince</author>
	<datestamp>1244973660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I'd spent the last 25 years peddling shit to idiots for billions of $ I'd have too much time on my hands, too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I 'd spent the last 25 years peddling shit to idiots for billions of $ I 'd have too much time on my hands , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I'd spent the last 25 years peddling shit to idiots for billions of $ I'd have too much time on my hands, too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325165</id>
	<title>AAAAAAAGH!</title>
	<author>PeerPressure</author>
	<datestamp>1245011640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A world full of Bill clones - the horror, the horror!</htmltext>
<tokenext>A world full of Bill clones - the horror , the horror !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A world full of Bill clones - the horror, the horror!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325915</id>
	<title>Re:It's not really the same</title>
	<author>Groggnrath</author>
	<datestamp>1244986500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think that would change it enough to allow for a patent. Though I'm betting they will get their patent anyway, and we'll see this in court in a few years. In the interim, Microsoft will make a small fortune selling us some product strikingly similar to Hot or Not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think that would change it enough to allow for a patent .
Though I 'm betting they will get their patent anyway , and we 'll see this in court in a few years .
In the interim , Microsoft will make a small fortune selling us some product strikingly similar to Hot or Not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think that would change it enough to allow for a patent.
Though I'm betting they will get their patent anyway, and we'll see this in court in a few years.
In the interim, Microsoft will make a small fortune selling us some product strikingly similar to Hot or Not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325019</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325027</id>
	<title>Desperate for Future Income?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244922120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does Microsoft realizes that nobody in their right mind is going to immediately switch to Win7 (if at all?)  <p>
They're trying to secure as many patents that could potentially bring them some sort of income NOW, lest they go bankrupt in the future.</p><p>

The vagueness of this patent could easily cover someone's picture on Facebook if they said "Tell me how I look!", "What do you think of this makeup?", or "Do you think the pocket-protector goes with these pants?"

Back off Microsoft - you're not IBM - leave the pointless patents to them...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does Microsoft realizes that nobody in their right mind is going to immediately switch to Win7 ( if at all ?
) They 're trying to secure as many patents that could potentially bring them some sort of income NOW , lest they go bankrupt in the future .
The vagueness of this patent could easily cover someone 's picture on Facebook if they said " Tell me how I look !
" , " What do you think of this makeup ?
" , or " Do you think the pocket-protector goes with these pants ?
" Back off Microsoft - you 're not IBM - leave the pointless patents to them.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does Microsoft realizes that nobody in their right mind is going to immediately switch to Win7 (if at all?
)  
They're trying to secure as many patents that could potentially bring them some sort of income NOW, lest they go bankrupt in the future.
The vagueness of this patent could easily cover someone's picture on Facebook if they said "Tell me how I look!
", "What do you think of this makeup?
", or "Do you think the pocket-protector goes with these pants?
"

Back off Microsoft - you're not IBM - leave the pointless patents to them...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326671</id>
	<title>Re:29/m/Australia</title>
	<author>anexkahn</author>
	<datestamp>1244996640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not sure, but if you were Microsoft you would patent that look!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure , but if you were Microsoft you would patent that look !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure, but if you were Microsoft you would patent that look!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324917</id>
	<title>In other news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244920320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In other news... there's a <a href="http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=4447091" title="fark.com" rel="nofollow">revolution</a> [fark.com] going on in Iran and it's <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdjKfbMTn1A&amp;feature=channel\_page" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">turned violent</a> [youtube.com].
</p><p>But that's not Stuff That Matters, so yeah, let's talk about Microsoft's stupid patent applications because that's News For Nerds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In other news... there 's a revolution [ fark.com ] going on in Iran and it 's turned violent [ youtube.com ] .
But that 's not Stuff That Matters , so yeah , let 's talk about Microsoft 's stupid patent applications because that 's News For Nerds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other news... there's a revolution [fark.com] going on in Iran and it's turned violent [youtube.com].
But that's not Stuff That Matters, so yeah, let's talk about Microsoft's stupid patent applications because that's News For Nerds.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28332377</id>
	<title>Not new</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245007260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm one of the founders of HOTorNOT.</p><p>We actually talked to potential retail partners about putting kiosks in their dressing rooms to provide the functionality outlined in the patent, back in 2001. That included a lot of the ideas outlined in this patent such as the ability to only get ratings from specific demographics as requested by the ratee.</p><p>Plenty of people have used HOTorNOT for the purpose of figuring out what clothes to wear / what hairstyle to wear, there have even been articles written by journalists who wrote about it in major fashion magazines.</p><p>I think HOTorNOT the company has enough prior art to shoot MS's application on this one. We sold hotornot last year though, so it's really up to the new owners whether they want to take action or not.</p><p>james</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm one of the founders of HOTorNOT.We actually talked to potential retail partners about putting kiosks in their dressing rooms to provide the functionality outlined in the patent , back in 2001 .
That included a lot of the ideas outlined in this patent such as the ability to only get ratings from specific demographics as requested by the ratee.Plenty of people have used HOTorNOT for the purpose of figuring out what clothes to wear / what hairstyle to wear , there have even been articles written by journalists who wrote about it in major fashion magazines.I think HOTorNOT the company has enough prior art to shoot MS 's application on this one .
We sold hotornot last year though , so it 's really up to the new owners whether they want to take action or not.james</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm one of the founders of HOTorNOT.We actually talked to potential retail partners about putting kiosks in their dressing rooms to provide the functionality outlined in the patent, back in 2001.
That included a lot of the ideas outlined in this patent such as the ability to only get ratings from specific demographics as requested by the ratee.Plenty of people have used HOTorNOT for the purpose of figuring out what clothes to wear / what hairstyle to wear, there have even been articles written by journalists who wrote about it in major fashion magazines.I think HOTorNOT the company has enough prior art to shoot MS's application on this one.
We sold hotornot last year though, so it's really up to the new owners whether they want to take action or not.james</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325807</id>
	<title>No, desperate the close the air supply of GPL</title>
	<author>Lorien\_the\_first\_one</author>
	<datestamp>1244984220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's right.  If MS gets this patent it'll never be implemented as GPL software.  Hopefully, IBM will *buy* MS for a pittance and merge it into a small division in Iceland somewhere, someday.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's right .
If MS gets this patent it 'll never be implemented as GPL software .
Hopefully , IBM will * buy * MS for a pittance and merge it into a small division in Iceland somewhere , someday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's right.
If MS gets this patent it'll never be implemented as GPL software.
Hopefully, IBM will *buy* MS for a pittance and merge it into a small division in Iceland somewhere, someday.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325027</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325125</id>
	<title>Re:Desperate for Future Income?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245010500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody's is getting Win7 as soon as it comes out?</p><p>I sure am!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...but the fact that it's free as part of the MSDN academic alliance might have something to do with that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody 's is getting Win7 as soon as it comes out ? I sure am !
...but the fact that it 's free as part of the MSDN academic alliance might have something to do with that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody's is getting Win7 as soon as it comes out?I sure am!
...but the fact that it's free as part of the MSDN academic alliance might have something to do with that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325027</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325183</id>
	<title>Re:HOT</title>
	<author>icannotthinkofaname</author>
	<datestamp>1245011880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I vote that news !.  So there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I vote that news ! .
So there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I vote that news !.
So there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324971</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325113</id>
	<title>How many would it take?</title>
	<author>xianthax</author>
	<datestamp>1245010200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always preferred the approach of howmanywouldittake.com (now defunct)...</p><p>always seemed so much more realistic to rate attractiveness by required level of intoxication than some artificial 0-10 scale</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always preferred the approach of howmanywouldittake.com ( now defunct ) ...always seemed so much more realistic to rate attractiveness by required level of intoxication than some artificial 0-10 scale</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always preferred the approach of howmanywouldittake.com (now defunct)...always seemed so much more realistic to rate attractiveness by required level of intoxication than some artificial 0-10 scale</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324949</id>
	<title>Re:In other news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244920800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, you get your news from Fark. Take your holier than thou bullshit and stick it up your ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , you get your news from Fark .
Take your holier than thou bullshit and stick it up your ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, you get your news from Fark.
Take your holier than thou bullshit and stick it up your ass.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324917</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326057</id>
	<title>Re:Desperate for Future Income?</title>
	<author>ikkonoishi</author>
	<datestamp>1244988720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems more like a queer eye for the geek guy type thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems more like a queer eye for the geek guy type thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems more like a queer eye for the geek guy type thing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325027</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325567</id>
	<title>Re:29/m/Australia</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1244977560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I hate sunlight<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I'm pasty white<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Am I hot or not?</p></div><p>I think you'll be better off asking this question on a necrophile discussion group...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate sunlight ... I 'm pasty white ... Am I hot or not ? I think you 'll be better off asking this question on a necrophile discussion group.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate sunlight ... I'm pasty white ... Am I hot or not?I think you'll be better off asking this question on a necrophile discussion group...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324971</id>
	<title>HOT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244921160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I vote that news "HOT".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I vote that news " HOT " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I vote that news "HOT".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324917</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325025</id>
	<title>Monkey boy video uploaded</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1244922120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and rated not so hot by developers, developers, developers the world over!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and rated not so hot by developers , developers , developers the world over !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and rated not so hot by developers, developers, developers the world over!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28338365</id>
	<title>Clippy lives!</title>
	<author>T.E.D.</author>
	<datestamp>1245094980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This "Fashion Advisor" sounds to me like they are trying yet again to find a use for Clippy, the reviled and ultimately fired MS Office assistant.

"I see that you are putting on white shoes after labor day. Would you like help?".</htmltext>
<tokenext>This " Fashion Advisor " sounds to me like they are trying yet again to find a use for Clippy , the reviled and ultimately fired MS Office assistant .
" I see that you are putting on white shoes after labor day .
Would you like help ?
" .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This "Fashion Advisor" sounds to me like they are trying yet again to find a use for Clippy, the reviled and ultimately fired MS Office assistant.
"I see that you are putting on white shoes after labor day.
Would you like help?
".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325103</id>
	<title>Microsoft and Fashion</title>
	<author>redkcir</author>
	<datestamp>1245009900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Like anyone in their right mind would take the advice from MS on fashion issues. They have a hard enough time trying to keep their OS running and that's their main job. If they can't do that I hardly think their fashion advice will be any better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like anyone in their right mind would take the advice from MS on fashion issues .
They have a hard enough time trying to keep their OS running and that 's their main job .
If they ca n't do that I hardly think their fashion advice will be any better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like anyone in their right mind would take the advice from MS on fashion issues.
They have a hard enough time trying to keep their OS running and that's their main job.
If they can't do that I hardly think their fashion advice will be any better.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326497</id>
	<title>Ahhh...I think it's been done</title>
	<author>motang</author>
	<datestamp>1244994120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe someone should let these guys know it's been done already, years ago.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe someone should let these guys know it 's been done already , years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe someone should let these guys know it's been done already, years ago.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325591</id>
	<title>Hot or not?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244977920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't the male brain prior art for this?</p><p>Wait a minute. Of course! The male brain can't be art! It's ugly and veiny (nervy?) all over. The only artistic brains are the female brains, which are beautifully curved with a consistent hue of light pink, and smell of jasmine. (How do I know these things, you ask? Just don't. Trust me.)</p><p>Microsoft, you cunning bastards!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't the male brain prior art for this ? Wait a minute .
Of course !
The male brain ca n't be art !
It 's ugly and veiny ( nervy ?
) all over .
The only artistic brains are the female brains , which are beautifully curved with a consistent hue of light pink , and smell of jasmine .
( How do I know these things , you ask ?
Just do n't .
Trust me .
) Microsoft , you cunning bastards !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't the male brain prior art for this?Wait a minute.
Of course!
The male brain can't be art!
It's ugly and veiny (nervy?
) all over.
The only artistic brains are the female brains, which are beautifully curved with a consistent hue of light pink, and smell of jasmine.
(How do I know these things, you ask?
Just don't.
Trust me.
)Microsoft, you cunning bastards!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325707</id>
	<title>Oh Jebuz...</title>
	<author>flameproof</author>
	<datestamp>1244981700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Only the dimwits at M$ could try and patent this kind of teen-aged bull$hite...  Talk about lowest common denominator!  What is this, a Limbo Line???</htmltext>
<tokenext>Only the dimwits at M $ could try and patent this kind of teen-aged bull $ hite... Talk about lowest common denominator !
What is this , a Limbo Line ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only the dimwits at M$ could try and patent this kind of teen-aged bull$hite...  Talk about lowest common denominator!
What is this, a Limbo Line??
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325633</id>
	<title>It's a Natal tie-in.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244979240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought that was obvious.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought that was obvious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought that was obvious.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28333853</id>
	<title>Abstract != Claims</title>
	<author>uiuyhn8i8</author>
	<datestamp>1245072240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As always when discussing patents most people get one small vital detail wrong. It is not the fluffy stuff in the patent abstract that is patented, it is the things enumerated in the claims that specify the patent. For example, in this case the claims say that the patent is for a system where you view two pictures of a person where they have changed one single thing and you then vote for the best picture. So any existing system which instead uses one picture is NOT prior art. Neither is any system with two pictures where two items of clothes changed prior art. A system with two pictures of a person with a single thing changed between the pictures but where you give a rating for the pictures is not prior art.</p><p>Please, please remember this so we will not have to endure any more stories about patents with prior art. Yes the patents are often trivial and should absolutely not be approved but they often don't have prior art since the claims normally are very specific.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As always when discussing patents most people get one small vital detail wrong .
It is not the fluffy stuff in the patent abstract that is patented , it is the things enumerated in the claims that specify the patent .
For example , in this case the claims say that the patent is for a system where you view two pictures of a person where they have changed one single thing and you then vote for the best picture .
So any existing system which instead uses one picture is NOT prior art .
Neither is any system with two pictures where two items of clothes changed prior art .
A system with two pictures of a person with a single thing changed between the pictures but where you give a rating for the pictures is not prior art.Please , please remember this so we will not have to endure any more stories about patents with prior art .
Yes the patents are often trivial and should absolutely not be approved but they often do n't have prior art since the claims normally are very specific .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As always when discussing patents most people get one small vital detail wrong.
It is not the fluffy stuff in the patent abstract that is patented, it is the things enumerated in the claims that specify the patent.
For example, in this case the claims say that the patent is for a system where you view two pictures of a person where they have changed one single thing and you then vote for the best picture.
So any existing system which instead uses one picture is NOT prior art.
Neither is any system with two pictures where two items of clothes changed prior art.
A system with two pictures of a person with a single thing changed between the pictures but where you give a rating for the pictures is not prior art.Please, please remember this so we will not have to endure any more stories about patents with prior art.
Yes the patents are often trivial and should absolutely not be approved but they often don't have prior art since the claims normally are very specific.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326581</id>
	<title>Not.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244995260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>See subject line.</htmltext>
<tokenext>See subject line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See subject line.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326327</id>
	<title>Too late</title>
	<author>kbmxpxfan</author>
	<datestamp>1244991900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Didn't Yahoo! already do this a few years back?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't Yahoo !
already do this a few years back ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't Yahoo!
already do this a few years back?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325413</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244974320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...Microsoft has just filed a patent on a revolutionary method for sending mail like messages over the Internet. They call it mmail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...Microsoft has just filed a patent on a revolutionary method for sending mail like messages over the Internet .
They call it mmail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Microsoft has just filed a patent on a revolutionary method for sending mail like messages over the Internet.
They call it mmail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28331301</id>
	<title>Re:Patents = $ for Employees</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244995080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a good point.  Rather than say "Microsoft" is filing a patent, if people really cared about stopping stupid patents like this they would list the people cited as inventors.  Put THEIR NAME in the summary and the discussion.</p><p>That will help put a stop to stupid patents.</p><p>Saying "Microsoft filed a stupid patent" does nothing.  Posting "Programmer Ted filed a stupid patent" will put people on notice!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a good point .
Rather than say " Microsoft " is filing a patent , if people really cared about stopping stupid patents like this they would list the people cited as inventors .
Put THEIR NAME in the summary and the discussion.That will help put a stop to stupid patents.Saying " Microsoft filed a stupid patent " does nothing .
Posting " Programmer Ted filed a stupid patent " will put people on notice !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a good point.
Rather than say "Microsoft" is filing a patent, if people really cared about stopping stupid patents like this they would list the people cited as inventors.
Put THEIR NAME in the summary and the discussion.That will help put a stop to stupid patents.Saying "Microsoft filed a stupid patent" does nothing.
Posting "Programmer Ted filed a stupid patent" will put people on notice!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325429</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325225</id>
	<title>Re:29/m/Australia</title>
	<author>Midnight Thunder</author>
	<datestamp>1244970000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a trick question? So, do you have air conditioning?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a trick question ?
So , do you have air conditioning ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a trick question?
So, do you have air conditioning?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326089</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244989260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Prior Art...</p><p>I am married. When my wife asks me how she looks I always say "HOT". There is only one correct answer in my patent.</p><p>Maybe Microsloth thinks that there are 2 correct answers. Silly Company.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Prior Art...I am married .
When my wife asks me how she looks I always say " HOT " .
There is only one correct answer in my patent.Maybe Microsloth thinks that there are 2 correct answers .
Silly Company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prior Art...I am married.
When my wife asks me how she looks I always say "HOT".
There is only one correct answer in my patent.Maybe Microsloth thinks that there are 2 correct answers.
Silly Company.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325161</id>
	<title>Yo, Kdawson</title>
	<author>Jamie's Nightmare</author>
	<datestamp>1245011460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can we get a summary without 'spin'?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can we get a summary without 'spin ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can we get a summary without 'spin'?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28331117</id>
	<title>Re:Desperate for Future Income?</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1244993220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My primary OS is Linux and I migrated most of my office to Linux. However I do run a dual boot on my notebook so I can run my embroidery machine (oh, and Netflix now that I finally gave in and subscribed).</p><p>I just upgraded my HDD so I downloaded Windows 7 and installed it - my goodness, it boots in about half the time XP did and so far (in the brief couple of hours I've run it) it runs much, much faster than Vista. It is comparable to or even perhaps slightly faster than XP - at least subjectively that is how it feels. UAC also doesn't get in the way nearly as much as it did on Vista.</p><p>I don't care for the bar - it's like a mutated OS X dock, without the positives. I like the Windows taskbar, I like OS X's dock, and I like KDE's uber-flexible panel, but I do not care for the Windows 7 task bar/dock. Perhaps it's because it's Windows tying to mimic OS X but is still Windows - it is not implemented as well, and if they were to copy anyone, I'd rather they copy KDE's customizability rather than rip off some of OS X's functionality,</p><p>But, overall I do like Windows 7.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My primary OS is Linux and I migrated most of my office to Linux .
However I do run a dual boot on my notebook so I can run my embroidery machine ( oh , and Netflix now that I finally gave in and subscribed ) .I just upgraded my HDD so I downloaded Windows 7 and installed it - my goodness , it boots in about half the time XP did and so far ( in the brief couple of hours I 've run it ) it runs much , much faster than Vista .
It is comparable to or even perhaps slightly faster than XP - at least subjectively that is how it feels .
UAC also does n't get in the way nearly as much as it did on Vista.I do n't care for the bar - it 's like a mutated OS X dock , without the positives .
I like the Windows taskbar , I like OS X 's dock , and I like KDE 's uber-flexible panel , but I do not care for the Windows 7 task bar/dock .
Perhaps it 's because it 's Windows tying to mimic OS X but is still Windows - it is not implemented as well , and if they were to copy anyone , I 'd rather they copy KDE 's customizability rather than rip off some of OS X 's functionality,But , overall I do like Windows 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My primary OS is Linux and I migrated most of my office to Linux.
However I do run a dual boot on my notebook so I can run my embroidery machine (oh, and Netflix now that I finally gave in and subscribed).I just upgraded my HDD so I downloaded Windows 7 and installed it - my goodness, it boots in about half the time XP did and so far (in the brief couple of hours I've run it) it runs much, much faster than Vista.
It is comparable to or even perhaps slightly faster than XP - at least subjectively that is how it feels.
UAC also doesn't get in the way nearly as much as it did on Vista.I don't care for the bar - it's like a mutated OS X dock, without the positives.
I like the Windows taskbar, I like OS X's dock, and I like KDE's uber-flexible panel, but I do not care for the Windows 7 task bar/dock.
Perhaps it's because it's Windows tying to mimic OS X but is still Windows - it is not implemented as well, and if they were to copy anyone, I'd rather they copy KDE's customizability rather than rip off some of OS X's functionality,But, overall I do like Windows 7.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325027</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325063</id>
	<title>Does it matter?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244922720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The site is 50\% spam and 50\% sexual predators. </p><p>Enjoy your home-grown product, Microsoft.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The site is 50 \ % spam and 50 \ % sexual predators .
Enjoy your home-grown product , Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The site is 50\% spam and 50\% sexual predators.
Enjoy your home-grown product, Microsoft.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325067</id>
	<title>Re:Desperate for Future Income?</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1244922780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Y'know they're filing shotgun patents all over the place.  They remind me of a marketing geek who accidentally got reassigned to engineering once.  Previously I had helped him design an air duct that put cool air where we needed it.  When a subsequent design eliminated the need for the duct, he said "That's an important piece.  We have intellectual property on that."
</p><p>Without blinking I told him "The Romans had prior art.  It's redundant, and out it goes."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Y'know they 're filing shotgun patents all over the place .
They remind me of a marketing geek who accidentally got reassigned to engineering once .
Previously I had helped him design an air duct that put cool air where we needed it .
When a subsequent design eliminated the need for the duct , he said " That 's an important piece .
We have intellectual property on that .
" Without blinking I told him " The Romans had prior art .
It 's redundant , and out it goes .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Y'know they're filing shotgun patents all over the place.
They remind me of a marketing geek who accidentally got reassigned to engineering once.
Previously I had helped him design an air duct that put cool air where we needed it.
When a subsequent design eliminated the need for the duct, he said "That's an important piece.
We have intellectual property on that.
"
Without blinking I told him "The Romans had prior art.
It's redundant, and out it goes.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325027</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325211</id>
	<title>Again?</title>
	<author>RabidRabbit23</author>
	<datestamp>1245012960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Although I enjoy bashing Microsoft as much as the next Slashdotter, haven't we seen enough obvious patents? We get about one per week. Maybe we could hear stories about people trying to change the system? Anything constructive? Judging from what I've heard on slashdot, the patent office is run by retarded rodents that approve patents based on the applications' fiber content.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although I enjoy bashing Microsoft as much as the next Slashdotter , have n't we seen enough obvious patents ?
We get about one per week .
Maybe we could hear stories about people trying to change the system ?
Anything constructive ?
Judging from what I 've heard on slashdot , the patent office is run by retarded rodents that approve patents based on the applications ' fiber content .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although I enjoy bashing Microsoft as much as the next Slashdotter, haven't we seen enough obvious patents?
We get about one per week.
Maybe we could hear stories about people trying to change the system?
Anything constructive?
Judging from what I've heard on slashdot, the patent office is run by retarded rodents that approve patents based on the applications' fiber content.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28330343</id>
	<title>Re:It's not really the same</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244984940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the material difference is that hot or not rates people, but this system appears to allow friends to vote on fashion choices for a given set of outfits.  In a recent XBOX Natal demo, they showed an video of two girls comparing outfits by dragging the outfit from the screen to the user, then showing the user in the outfit.  This may be the patent for this, which if it is, has huge online shopping impact.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the material difference is that hot or not rates people , but this system appears to allow friends to vote on fashion choices for a given set of outfits .
In a recent XBOX Natal demo , they showed an video of two girls comparing outfits by dragging the outfit from the screen to the user , then showing the user in the outfit .
This may be the patent for this , which if it is , has huge online shopping impact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the material difference is that hot or not rates people, but this system appears to allow friends to vote on fashion choices for a given set of outfits.
In a recent XBOX Natal demo, they showed an video of two girls comparing outfits by dragging the outfit from the screen to the user, then showing the user in the outfit.
This may be the patent for this, which if it is, has huge online shopping impact.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325143</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28331995</id>
	<title>Re:HOT</title>
	<author>inmytaxi</author>
	<datestamp>1245002340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Please send $5.69 to Redmond, WA immediately.

And please send $0.53 to Mountain View, CA for sending said money.

And pay<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please send $ 5.69 to Redmond , WA immediately .
And please send $ 0.53 to Mountain View , CA for sending said money .
And pay .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please send $5.69 to Redmond, WA immediately.
And please send $0.53 to Mountain View, CA for sending said money.
And pay ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324971</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324941</id>
	<title>Re:In other news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244920740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not news, it's Slashdot.</p><p>I'm sure here are reams of sites with news on the Iran shenanigans. As important as the potential revolt may be, there *are* other things happening on planet Earth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not news , it 's Slashdot.I 'm sure here are reams of sites with news on the Iran shenanigans .
As important as the potential revolt may be , there * are * other things happening on planet Earth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not news, it's Slashdot.I'm sure here are reams of sites with news on the Iran shenanigans.
As important as the potential revolt may be, there *are* other things happening on planet Earth.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324917</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325069</id>
	<title>Re:Desperate for Future Income?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244922780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Long time Linux user and developer here.</p><p>Haven't found Mac to be as great as the fanbois think.</p><p>Windows 7 RC1 is pretty good.. no matter how much patents can suck</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Long time Linux user and developer here.Have n't found Mac to be as great as the fanbois think.Windows 7 RC1 is pretty good.. no matter how much patents can suck</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Long time Linux user and developer here.Haven't found Mac to be as great as the fanbois think.Windows 7 RC1 is pretty good.. no matter how much patents can suck</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325027</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28328223</id>
	<title>Re:Prior art???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245010380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://aminaked.com/" title="aminaked.com" rel="nofollow">aminaked</a> [aminaked.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>aminaked [ aminaked.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>aminaked [aminaked.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326381</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326763</id>
	<title>Hot or Not prior art...</title>
	<author>Theaetetus</author>
	<datestamp>1244997540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I haven't read the full application, but just a clarification: Microsoft isn't <i>completely</i> out of touch. The background of the application - also known as Applicant Disclosed Prior Art - includes a description of Hot or Not:<p><div class="quote"><p>[0003]A variation on this model is also applied to rating websites where <b>users can rate other on physical appearance</b>, pets, personality and other user traits and attributes. In voting sites, typically, it is a general purpose question posed to viewers, and once the viewers have answered the question they tend to leave the website to do something else. <b>In other rating websites, when viewers have rated an image, the viewers are presented with a seemingly endless series of other images to be rated or voted on, the purpose of which is to generate a flow experience so the viewers will stay at the website to continue participating</b>. This process can generate revenue for advertisers by presenting advertisements while the viewers are voting. Moreover, there is a fascination with anonymously critiquing the appearance of another person.</p> </div><p>So, Microsoft is claiming this invention does something more than that. Now, l haven't read it, so I can't comment further, but the discussion should be "what's the supposed improvement", not "zomg Microsoft has never heard of Hot or Not!"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't read the full application , but just a clarification : Microsoft is n't completely out of touch .
The background of the application - also known as Applicant Disclosed Prior Art - includes a description of Hot or Not : [ 0003 ] A variation on this model is also applied to rating websites where users can rate other on physical appearance , pets , personality and other user traits and attributes .
In voting sites , typically , it is a general purpose question posed to viewers , and once the viewers have answered the question they tend to leave the website to do something else .
In other rating websites , when viewers have rated an image , the viewers are presented with a seemingly endless series of other images to be rated or voted on , the purpose of which is to generate a flow experience so the viewers will stay at the website to continue participating .
This process can generate revenue for advertisers by presenting advertisements while the viewers are voting .
Moreover , there is a fascination with anonymously critiquing the appearance of another person .
So , Microsoft is claiming this invention does something more than that .
Now , l have n't read it , so I ca n't comment further , but the discussion should be " what 's the supposed improvement " , not " zomg Microsoft has never heard of Hot or Not !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't read the full application, but just a clarification: Microsoft isn't completely out of touch.
The background of the application - also known as Applicant Disclosed Prior Art - includes a description of Hot or Not:[0003]A variation on this model is also applied to rating websites where users can rate other on physical appearance, pets, personality and other user traits and attributes.
In voting sites, typically, it is a general purpose question posed to viewers, and once the viewers have answered the question they tend to leave the website to do something else.
In other rating websites, when viewers have rated an image, the viewers are presented with a seemingly endless series of other images to be rated or voted on, the purpose of which is to generate a flow experience so the viewers will stay at the website to continue participating.
This process can generate revenue for advertisers by presenting advertisements while the viewers are voting.
Moreover, there is a fascination with anonymously critiquing the appearance of another person.
So, Microsoft is claiming this invention does something more than that.
Now, l haven't read it, so I can't comment further, but the discussion should be "what's the supposed improvement", not "zomg Microsoft has never heard of Hot or Not!
"
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326287</id>
	<title>Re:In other news</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1244991540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In other news, which is offtopic here... oh wait, let's just stop there.</p><p>Slashdot is news for nerds. If we want news for everyone, we know where to look. Thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In other news , which is offtopic here... oh wait , let 's just stop there.Slashdot is news for nerds .
If we want news for everyone , we know where to look .
Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other news, which is offtopic here... oh wait, let's just stop there.Slashdot is news for nerds.
If we want news for everyone, we know where to look.
Thanks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324917</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325367</id>
	<title>Microsoft and Hot?</title>
	<author>Z00L00K</author>
	<datestamp>1244973540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft has passed the age of being Hot a long time ago, so this seems to be a feeble attempt to make money out of everyone else that's classed as hot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft has passed the age of being Hot a long time ago , so this seems to be a feeble attempt to make money out of everyone else that 's classed as hot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft has passed the age of being Hot a long time ago, so this seems to be a feeble attempt to make money out of everyone else that's classed as hot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326407</id>
	<title>Re:29/m/Australia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244992920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Neither hot nor not. You simply watched too much Conan O'Brien. (When it was "late night with")</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Neither hot nor not .
You simply watched too much Conan O'Brien .
( When it was " late night with " )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Neither hot nor not.
You simply watched too much Conan O'Brien.
(When it was "late night with")</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325811</id>
	<title>Gosh, you can really patent ANYTHING in the US...</title>
	<author>Klistvud</author>
	<datestamp>1244984280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure you could even patent "An apparatus and method for making farts noiseless", there's a wealth of prior (f)art in the US Patent system. Oops -- it's already patented as US47263879273672? I should have thought so.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure you could even patent " An apparatus and method for making farts noiseless " , there 's a wealth of prior ( f ) art in the US Patent system .
Oops -- it 's already patented as US47263879273672 ?
I should have thought so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure you could even patent "An apparatus and method for making farts noiseless", there's a wealth of prior (f)art in the US Patent system.
Oops -- it's already patented as US47263879273672?
I should have thought so.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325061</id>
	<title>Re:It's not really the same</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244922720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're confusing Hot or Not with <a href="http://www.ratemyrack.com/" title="ratemyrack.com" rel="nofollow">Rate My Rack</a> [ratemyrack.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're confusing Hot or Not with Rate My Rack [ ratemyrack.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're confusing Hot or Not with Rate My Rack [ratemyrack.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325019</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325083</id>
	<title>Re:In other news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244923140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Waaaaaah how can you run a story about Paris Hilton when people are being murdered in Darfur? Children are starving in Africa and you have the audacity to run a feel good story about the firemen rescuing a cat stuck in a tree?! Holy shit you act like you have never seen the news before.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Waaaaaah how can you run a story about Paris Hilton when people are being murdered in Darfur ?
Children are starving in Africa and you have the audacity to run a feel good story about the firemen rescuing a cat stuck in a tree ? !
Holy shit you act like you have never seen the news before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Waaaaaah how can you run a story about Paris Hilton when people are being murdered in Darfur?
Children are starving in Africa and you have the audacity to run a feel good story about the firemen rescuing a cat stuck in a tree?!
Holy shit you act like you have never seen the news before.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324917</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325209</id>
	<title>out of touch</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245012960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think a lot of these bogus patent filings from Microsoft simply show that the people at Microsoft have not the slightest idea of what is going on in the real world.  Microsoft is designing software for the last century.  Even Bing is merely a Google clone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think a lot of these bogus patent filings from Microsoft simply show that the people at Microsoft have not the slightest idea of what is going on in the real world .
Microsoft is designing software for the last century .
Even Bing is merely a Google clone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think a lot of these bogus patent filings from Microsoft simply show that the people at Microsoft have not the slightest idea of what is going on in the real world.
Microsoft is designing software for the last century.
Even Bing is merely a Google clone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325097</id>
	<title>non-obviousness?</title>
	<author>belmolis</author>
	<datestamp>1245009840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I'm having a very hard time seeing how this is not obvious.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm having a very hard time seeing how this is not obvious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I'm having a very hard time seeing how this is not obvious.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326381</id>
	<title>Prior art???</title>
	<author>kpoole55</author>
	<datestamp>1244992620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought there was a hot or not website out in the wild a few years ago.  Are they trying to patent that or have they made some significant change to putting your picture up and having people rate you not or not?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought there was a hot or not website out in the wild a few years ago .
Are they trying to patent that or have they made some significant change to putting your picture up and having people rate you not or not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought there was a hot or not website out in the wild a few years ago.
Are they trying to patent that or have they made some significant change to putting your picture up and having people rate you not or not?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28330163</id>
	<title>Code review...</title>
	<author>Haifen</author>
	<datestamp>1244983260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like it's time for someone to launch amihotornotornot.com to review code.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like it 's time for someone to launch amihotornotornot.com to review code .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like it's time for someone to launch amihotornotornot.com to review code.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324977</id>
	<title>29/m/Australia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244921220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate sunlight, fresh air and physical activity. I'm pasty white and commonly sport cheeto stains on my shirt.</p><p>Am I hot or not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate sunlight , fresh air and physical activity .
I 'm pasty white and commonly sport cheeto stains on my shirt.Am I hot or not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate sunlight, fresh air and physical activity.
I'm pasty white and commonly sport cheeto stains on my shirt.Am I hot or not?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325055</id>
	<title>Microsoft Can Suck My Nasty Balls</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244922600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is pure bullshit. Social interacting websites and dating websites have been using this feature for years and Microsoft thinks it can get a patent for something someone else has discovered or has been using for the past 10 years?</p><p>Motherfucking Microsoft can suck my nasty balls.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is pure bullshit .
Social interacting websites and dating websites have been using this feature for years and Microsoft thinks it can get a patent for something someone else has discovered or has been using for the past 10 years ? Motherfucking Microsoft can suck my nasty balls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is pure bullshit.
Social interacting websites and dating websites have been using this feature for years and Microsoft thinks it can get a patent for something someone else has discovered or has been using for the past 10 years?Motherfucking Microsoft can suck my nasty balls.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325109</id>
	<title>prior art</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245010020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://aminaked.com  already allows you to rate porn photo hotness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //aminaked.com already allows you to rate porn photo hotness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://aminaked.com  already allows you to rate porn photo hotness.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325685</id>
	<title>Prior Art</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244980740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would think the prior art of RateMyRack.com would destroy this patent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would think the prior art of RateMyRack.com would destroy this patent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would think the prior art of RateMyRack.com would destroy this patent.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325031</id>
	<title>Question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244922240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate Jews.</p><p>That is all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate Jews.That is all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate Jews.That is all.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325429</id>
	<title>Patents = $ for Employees</title>
	<author>sogon</author>
	<datestamp>1244974860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft Employees get a $2500 bonus for every patent.  They don't have to write it either, The patent lawyer does.<br>All you do is describe the idea and give any pertinent documentation and someone else converts it to a patent.</p><p>I have a few MS patents under my belt when I worked there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft Employees get a $ 2500 bonus for every patent .
They do n't have to write it either , The patent lawyer does.All you do is describe the idea and give any pertinent documentation and someone else converts it to a patent.I have a few MS patents under my belt when I worked there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft Employees get a $2500 bonus for every patent.
They don't have to write it either, The patent lawyer does.All you do is describe the idea and give any pertinent documentation and someone else converts it to a patent.I have a few MS patents under my belt when I worked there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325833</id>
	<title>Re:out of touch</title>
	<author>Lorien\_the\_first\_one</author>
	<datestamp>1244984820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, but at least they could find a simple, distinctive, descriptive name for their search engine that isn't trademarked.  I never would have thought of "bing" as a name for anything except while, um, cooking.  You, know, like <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bada\%20bing\%2C\%20bada\%20boom" title="urbandictionary.com">bada bing, bada boom</a> [urbandictionary.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but at least they could find a simple , distinctive , descriptive name for their search engine that is n't trademarked .
I never would have thought of " bing " as a name for anything except while , um , cooking .
You , know , like bada bing , bada boom [ urbandictionary.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but at least they could find a simple, distinctive, descriptive name for their search engine that isn't trademarked.
I never would have thought of "bing" as a name for anything except while, um, cooking.
You, know, like bada bing, bada boom [urbandictionary.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325209</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28327471</id>
	<title>No, this is not HotOrNot</title>
	<author>DaveV1.0</author>
	<datestamp>1245004200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>2. The system of claim 1, wherein the media are presented as a pair of images, each image depicting a different instance of related personal appearance information and each image selectable by the viewer to provide the vote.</p></div> </blockquote><p>But, I really don't think one should be able to patent this either. There is nothing innovative about showing a group of people two pictures of one's self dressed in different styles and asking them which is better.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 .
The system of claim 1 , wherein the media are presented as a pair of images , each image depicting a different instance of related personal appearance information and each image selectable by the viewer to provide the vote .
But , I really do n't think one should be able to patent this either .
There is nothing innovative about showing a group of people two pictures of one 's self dressed in different styles and asking them which is better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2.
The system of claim 1, wherein the media are presented as a pair of images, each image depicting a different instance of related personal appearance information and each image selectable by the viewer to provide the vote.
But, I really don't think one should be able to patent this either.
There is nothing innovative about showing a group of people two pictures of one's self dressed in different styles and asking them which is better.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325143</id>
	<title>Re:It's not really the same</title>
	<author>kwiqsilver</author>
	<datestamp>1245010800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>Well Hot or Not is mainly about breasts and not about fashion. This is what might differ.</i>
</p><p>They're both about rating the visual aesthetics of a person. If a Hot-or-Not chick has a mullet and 'stache, she's going to get dinged no matter how top heavy she is.<br>
This is close enough that the site that was created a decade ago, without any input from Microsoft, should count as prior art.<br>
Hell, Miss America or every fashion magazine ever printed could be claimed as prior art. They look at images of people and rate the appearance. Just because MS uses computers to connect the people involved doesn't make it special.
</p><p>There's also the "non-obvious" requirement for a patent. This is blatantly obvious.
</p><p>That would be almost as lame as Apple patenting LCD technology and saying it's "new" because everybody else was using it on TVs and computer displays, but they're using it on phones and portable music players.
</p><p>Now if MS created an algorithm for the computer to do the rating, that would be the level of innovation the patent system was intended for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well Hot or Not is mainly about breasts and not about fashion .
This is what might differ .
They 're both about rating the visual aesthetics of a person .
If a Hot-or-Not chick has a mullet and 'stache , she 's going to get dinged no matter how top heavy she is .
This is close enough that the site that was created a decade ago , without any input from Microsoft , should count as prior art .
Hell , Miss America or every fashion magazine ever printed could be claimed as prior art .
They look at images of people and rate the appearance .
Just because MS uses computers to connect the people involved does n't make it special .
There 's also the " non-obvious " requirement for a patent .
This is blatantly obvious .
That would be almost as lame as Apple patenting LCD technology and saying it 's " new " because everybody else was using it on TVs and computer displays , but they 're using it on phones and portable music players .
Now if MS created an algorithm for the computer to do the rating , that would be the level of innovation the patent system was intended for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Well Hot or Not is mainly about breasts and not about fashion.
This is what might differ.
They're both about rating the visual aesthetics of a person.
If a Hot-or-Not chick has a mullet and 'stache, she's going to get dinged no matter how top heavy she is.
This is close enough that the site that was created a decade ago, without any input from Microsoft, should count as prior art.
Hell, Miss America or every fashion magazine ever printed could be claimed as prior art.
They look at images of people and rate the appearance.
Just because MS uses computers to connect the people involved doesn't make it special.
There's also the "non-obvious" requirement for a patent.
This is blatantly obvious.
That would be almost as lame as Apple patenting LCD technology and saying it's "new" because everybody else was using it on TVs and computer displays, but they're using it on phones and portable music players.
Now if MS created an algorithm for the computer to do the rating, that would be the level of innovation the patent system was intended for.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325019</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326511</id>
	<title>Re:Desperate for Future Income?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244994300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I disagree.</p><p>I think Win7 will be a financial hit for MS.  (Not saying I think it's great, but Vista has been such an obvious flop, such that a new OS name was mandated...and many companies who avoided Vista are ready for new computers and will probably get new ones in October, when 7 comes out...either to get something slightly better than Vista, or to get cheap ones that don't have 7 on them, and reload another OS on them..)</p><p>I predict a big financial win for MS.  I think it will be as big a hit as the iPhone was.  I should re-read this in November to see what happened.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I disagree.I think Win7 will be a financial hit for MS. ( Not saying I think it 's great , but Vista has been such an obvious flop , such that a new OS name was mandated...and many companies who avoided Vista are ready for new computers and will probably get new ones in October , when 7 comes out...either to get something slightly better than Vista , or to get cheap ones that do n't have 7 on them , and reload another OS on them.. ) I predict a big financial win for MS. I think it will be as big a hit as the iPhone was .
I should re-read this in November to see what happened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disagree.I think Win7 will be a financial hit for MS.  (Not saying I think it's great, but Vista has been such an obvious flop, such that a new OS name was mandated...and many companies who avoided Vista are ready for new computers and will probably get new ones in October, when 7 comes out...either to get something slightly better than Vista, or to get cheap ones that don't have 7 on them, and reload another OS on them..)I predict a big financial win for MS.  I think it will be as big a hit as the iPhone was.
I should re-read this in November to see what happened.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325027</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28326383</id>
	<title>What a great "invention"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244992620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gee I think I'll plow my life savings into MicroSlop stock now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gee I think I 'll plow my life savings into MicroSlop stock now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gee I think I'll plow my life savings into MicroSlop stock now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28332953</id>
	<title>Re:In other news</title>
	<author>OrangeTide</author>
	<datestamp>1245058680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Guess what, we're capable of tracking more than one story at a time. Pretty amazing technology we have here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Guess what , we 're capable of tracking more than one story at a time .
Pretty amazing technology we have here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guess what, we're capable of tracking more than one story at a time.
Pretty amazing technology we have here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28324917</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325297</id>
	<title>Re:It's not really the same</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244971560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Well Hot or Not is mainly about breasts and not about fashion. This is what might differ.</p></div></blockquote><p>Au contraire mon frere.  Brest are very fashionable, no?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well Hot or Not is mainly about breasts and not about fashion .
This is what might differ.Au contraire mon frere .
Brest are very fashionable , no ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well Hot or Not is mainly about breasts and not about fashion.
This is what might differ.Au contraire mon frere.
Brest are very fashionable, no?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325019</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_0118200.28325195</id>
	<title>Re:In other news</title>
	<author>wisty</author>
	<datestamp>1245012480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In other news... there's a <a href="http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=4447091" title="fark.com">revolution</a> [fark.com] going on in Iran and it's <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdjKfbMTn1A&amp;feature=channel\_page" title="youtube.com">turned violent</a> [youtube.com].</p><p>But that's not Stuff That Matters, so yeah, let's talk about Microsoft's stupid patent applications because that's News For Nerds.</p></div><p>Intellectual property is a serious point of discussion. China's monopoly on tea and silk caused empires to rise and fall.</p><p>If patents go to far, they can completely destroy the incentive people have to innovate, as all their innovations will be reliant on other patented processes. If Yahoo had owned a patent on internet search, then Google would never have had a chance to monetize Pagerank. But Yahoo would never have gotten so far, because previous companies would have patented the technology Yahoo used.</p><p>The medieval guilds arrested a lot of development, by guarding their secret knowledge. The Masons were not powerful because of their political connections, they had political connections because they simply knew how to build stone buildings. Sure, they had earned that knowledge from previous Masons, but the process of knowledge transfer was so opaque that corruption and inefficiencies were bound to creep in.</p><p>The printing press destroyed the monopolies of the guilds, because their knowledge could be cheaply and efficiently disseminated. Open source, the FSF, Wikipedia and other open movements are furthering this movement.</p><p>But patents are a way for the establishment to fight back, and try to create an environment in which they can reap more profits than a free market would allow.</p><p>So yes, it is Stuff That Matters.</p></div>
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<tokenext>In other news... there 's a revolution [ fark.com ] going on in Iran and it 's turned violent [ youtube.com ] .But that 's not Stuff That Matters , so yeah , let 's talk about Microsoft 's stupid patent applications because that 's News For Nerds.Intellectual property is a serious point of discussion .
China 's monopoly on tea and silk caused empires to rise and fall.If patents go to far , they can completely destroy the incentive people have to innovate , as all their innovations will be reliant on other patented processes .
If Yahoo had owned a patent on internet search , then Google would never have had a chance to monetize Pagerank .
But Yahoo would never have gotten so far , because previous companies would have patented the technology Yahoo used.The medieval guilds arrested a lot of development , by guarding their secret knowledge .
The Masons were not powerful because of their political connections , they had political connections because they simply knew how to build stone buildings .
Sure , they had earned that knowledge from previous Masons , but the process of knowledge transfer was so opaque that corruption and inefficiencies were bound to creep in.The printing press destroyed the monopolies of the guilds , because their knowledge could be cheaply and efficiently disseminated .
Open source , the FSF , Wikipedia and other open movements are furthering this movement.But patents are a way for the establishment to fight back , and try to create an environment in which they can reap more profits than a free market would allow.So yes , it is Stuff That Matters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other news... there's a revolution [fark.com] going on in Iran and it's turned violent [youtube.com].But that's not Stuff That Matters, so yeah, let's talk about Microsoft's stupid patent applications because that's News For Nerds.Intellectual property is a serious point of discussion.
China's monopoly on tea and silk caused empires to rise and fall.If patents go to far, they can completely destroy the incentive people have to innovate, as all their innovations will be reliant on other patented processes.
If Yahoo had owned a patent on internet search, then Google would never have had a chance to monetize Pagerank.
But Yahoo would never have gotten so far, because previous companies would have patented the technology Yahoo used.The medieval guilds arrested a lot of development, by guarding their secret knowledge.
The Masons were not powerful because of their political connections, they had political connections because they simply knew how to build stone buildings.
Sure, they had earned that knowledge from previous Masons, but the process of knowledge transfer was so opaque that corruption and inefficiencies were bound to creep in.The printing press destroyed the monopolies of the guilds, because their knowledge could be cheaply and efficiently disseminated.
Open source, the FSF, Wikipedia and other open movements are furthering this movement.But patents are a way for the establishment to fight back, and try to create an environment in which they can reap more profits than a free market would allow.So yes, it is Stuff That Matters.
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	<title>Patently stupid</title>
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	<htmltext><p>I was told at school that patents were given to allow companies and individuals to recover the costs of the research necessary to create their product by granting a temporary monopoly on the product.</p><p>Now, people seem to be patenting anything they do regardless of research costs ($0 in most cases) and gaining monopolies for no reason save that they applied for it first. First come first served.</p><p>There will be no change though. Politicians and other shareholders want it this way to benefit themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was told at school that patents were given to allow companies and individuals to recover the costs of the research necessary to create their product by granting a temporary monopoly on the product.Now , people seem to be patenting anything they do regardless of research costs ( $ 0 in most cases ) and gaining monopolies for no reason save that they applied for it first .
First come first served.There will be no change though .
Politicians and other shareholders want it this way to benefit themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was told at school that patents were given to allow companies and individuals to recover the costs of the research necessary to create their product by granting a temporary monopoly on the product.Now, people seem to be patenting anything they do regardless of research costs ($0 in most cases) and gaining monopolies for no reason save that they applied for it first.
First come first served.There will be no change though.
Politicians and other shareholders want it this way to benefit themselves.</sentencetext>
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