<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_11_1639256</id>
	<title>Solar Machine Spins Sunlight-Shaped Furniture</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1244708820000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.inhabitat.com/" rel="nofollow">Mike</a> writes <i>"Austrian designers mischer'traxler have created a solar powered machine that makes an incredible array of furnishings that vary based on how much sunlight it receives over the course of a day. Titled '<a href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/06/10/solar-powered-machine-spins-furniture-from-sunlight/#more-32940">The Idea of a Tree</a>,' the machine spins spools of thread into stools, benches, containers, and lamp shades that wax and wane as the available sunlight shifts. Furniture created during cloudy winter days will be wrapped more slowly, causing it to be darker in color, thicker, and smaller than pieces created during the sun-soaked summer months."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mike writes " Austrian designers mischer'traxler have created a solar powered machine that makes an incredible array of furnishings that vary based on how much sunlight it receives over the course of a day .
Titled 'The Idea of a Tree, ' the machine spins spools of thread into stools , benches , containers , and lamp shades that wax and wane as the available sunlight shifts .
Furniture created during cloudy winter days will be wrapped more slowly , causing it to be darker in color , thicker , and smaller than pieces created during the sun-soaked summer months .
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<sentencetext>Mike writes "Austrian designers mischer'traxler have created a solar powered machine that makes an incredible array of furnishings that vary based on how much sunlight it receives over the course of a day.
Titled 'The Idea of a Tree,' the machine spins spools of thread into stools, benches, containers, and lamp shades that wax and wane as the available sunlight shifts.
Furniture created during cloudy winter days will be wrapped more slowly, causing it to be darker in color, thicker, and smaller than pieces created during the sun-soaked summer months.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28302757</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>gstoddart</author>
	<datestamp>1244726760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day, a maximum of 365 pieces per year. At that rate, how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine, with at least $500 worth of solar panels?</p></div></blockquote><p>Dude, they're showing it at an international <em>design</em> show.  You know, a bunch of other artists and designers who will think this is cool.  I personally thought the lampshades looked really cool -- I'm willing to bet that where these are very unique art pieces, it will be something they can sell for quite a bit if they're willing to part with it.</p><p>Heck, looking at the machine, it's likely not <em>that</em> expensive to make one.  It's a frigging metal frame with one big solar panel, some pulleys, and the spindle the resin gets wrapped around.</p><p>Has everyone on Slashdot lost the ability to appreciate art and technology which doesn't have an immediately practical/profitable use?  Because every time a story gets posted like this, a whole slew of people start saying how utterly pointless it was to have done it in the first place.</p><p>Have you all spent so long in front of a computer that you've lost sight of the concept of art?</p><p>Cheers</p></div>
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<tokenext>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day , a maximum of 365 pieces per year .
At that rate , how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine , with at least $ 500 worth of solar panels ? Dude , they 're showing it at an international design show .
You know , a bunch of other artists and designers who will think this is cool .
I personally thought the lampshades looked really cool -- I 'm willing to bet that where these are very unique art pieces , it will be something they can sell for quite a bit if they 're willing to part with it.Heck , looking at the machine , it 's likely not that expensive to make one .
It 's a frigging metal frame with one big solar panel , some pulleys , and the spindle the resin gets wrapped around.Has everyone on Slashdot lost the ability to appreciate art and technology which does n't have an immediately practical/profitable use ?
Because every time a story gets posted like this , a whole slew of people start saying how utterly pointless it was to have done it in the first place.Have you all spent so long in front of a computer that you 've lost sight of the concept of art ? Cheers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day, a maximum of 365 pieces per year.
At that rate, how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine, with at least $500 worth of solar panels?Dude, they're showing it at an international design show.
You know, a bunch of other artists and designers who will think this is cool.
I personally thought the lampshades looked really cool -- I'm willing to bet that where these are very unique art pieces, it will be something they can sell for quite a bit if they're willing to part with it.Heck, looking at the machine, it's likely not that expensive to make one.
It's a frigging metal frame with one big solar panel, some pulleys, and the spindle the resin gets wrapped around.Has everyone on Slashdot lost the ability to appreciate art and technology which doesn't have an immediately practical/profitable use?
Because every time a story gets posted like this, a whole slew of people start saying how utterly pointless it was to have done it in the first place.Have you all spent so long in front of a computer that you've lost sight of the concept of art?Cheers
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28302865</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>Erchie</author>
	<datestamp>1244727480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, and the sun was in his eyes, blinding him so he couldn't see how much money he was counting out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and the sun was in his eyes , blinding him so he could n't see how much money he was counting out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and the sun was in his eyes, blinding him so he couldn't see how much money he was counting out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300653</id>
	<title>Spools to stools</title>
	<author>AaronParsons</author>
	<datestamp>1244716020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the machine spins spools<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... into stools</p></div><p>My dog does this... he tears apart yarn, eats it, and eventually it comes out the other end.</p></div>
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<tokenext>the machine spins spools ... into stoolsMy dog does this... he tears apart yarn , eats it , and eventually it comes out the other end .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the machine spins spools ... into stoolsMy dog does this... he tears apart yarn, eats it, and eventually it comes out the other end.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28301641</id>
	<title>Redmond-Bound</title>
	<author>Wowlapalooza</author>
	<datestamp>1244720040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm imagining a whole life-cycle loop, with a farm of these things churning out chairs, and Ballmer at the other end of the life-cycle wrecking them. They just need a way to recycle the broken pieces back into chairs again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm imagining a whole life-cycle loop , with a farm of these things churning out chairs , and Ballmer at the other end of the life-cycle wrecking them .
They just need a way to recycle the broken pieces back into chairs again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm imagining a whole life-cycle loop, with a farm of these things churning out chairs, and Ballmer at the other end of the life-cycle wrecking them.
They just need a way to recycle the broken pieces back into chairs again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28302855</id>
	<title>Re:OR...</title>
	<author>gstoddart</author>
	<datestamp>1244727420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>you could plug it into an outlet and make more consistent furniture and make it all the time.</p></div></blockquote><p>Assuming of course you wanted perfectly uniform and consistent furniture all of the time.</p><p>Given that the entire <em>point</em> was to create something which varied in a more organic manner, they obviously didn't <em>want</em> to do what you suggest.</p><p>They didn't create the machine to come up with a new way of creating furniture, they did it to make one-of-a-kind pieces.</p><p>Cheers</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>you could plug it into an outlet and make more consistent furniture and make it all the time.Assuming of course you wanted perfectly uniform and consistent furniture all of the time.Given that the entire point was to create something which varied in a more organic manner , they obviously did n't want to do what you suggest.They did n't create the machine to come up with a new way of creating furniture , they did it to make one-of-a-kind pieces.Cheers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you could plug it into an outlet and make more consistent furniture and make it all the time.Assuming of course you wanted perfectly uniform and consistent furniture all of the time.Given that the entire point was to create something which varied in a more organic manner, they obviously didn't want to do what you suggest.They didn't create the machine to come up with a new way of creating furniture, they did it to make one-of-a-kind pieces.Cheers
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28308855</id>
	<title>Vintage furniture</title>
	<author>AgentSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1244824140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Noone will ever see my comment, but here goes.</p><p>Actually, this is genius.</p><p>This puts furniture in a whole new realm.</p><p>If it wasn't so craptastic looking it could catch on like wine.<br>People pay huge amounts of money for specific vintage wines because<br>the rain, sun and soil nutrients were a specific amount to create a<br>certain taste.</p><p>Well it's possible people would by a chair, because it fits their ass perfectly<br>due to the random timing of sun and clouds.</p><p>There'll be chair snobs! Drink your Ch&#226;teau La Conseillante 1865 on your 2012 chair.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Noone will ever see my comment , but here goes.Actually , this is genius.This puts furniture in a whole new realm.If it was n't so craptastic looking it could catch on like wine.People pay huge amounts of money for specific vintage wines becausethe rain , sun and soil nutrients were a specific amount to create acertain taste.Well it 's possible people would by a chair , because it fits their ass perfectlydue to the random timing of sun and clouds.There 'll be chair snobs !
Drink your Ch   teau La Conseillante 1865 on your 2012 chair .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Noone will ever see my comment, but here goes.Actually, this is genius.This puts furniture in a whole new realm.If it wasn't so craptastic looking it could catch on like wine.People pay huge amounts of money for specific vintage wines becausethe rain, sun and soil nutrients were a specific amount to create acertain taste.Well it's possible people would by a chair, because it fits their ass perfectlydue to the random timing of sun and clouds.There'll be chair snobs!
Drink your Château La Conseillante 1865 on your 2012 chair.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28299845</id>
	<title>some fugly furniture</title>
	<author>OrangeMonkey11</author>
	<datestamp>1244713260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>interesting use of solar energy, but these are some ugly looking furniture</htmltext>
<tokenext>interesting use of solar energy , but these are some ugly looking furniture</tokentext>
<sentencetext>interesting use of solar energy, but these are some ugly looking furniture</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300281</id>
	<title>Re:some fugly furniture</title>
	<author>confused one</author>
	<datestamp>1244714820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And looks incredibly uncomfortable.  No thanks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And looks incredibly uncomfortable .
No thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And looks incredibly uncomfortable.
No thanks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300871</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244716860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day, a maximum of 365 pieces per year. At that rate, how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine, with at least $500 worth of solar panels?</p></div><p>What if you have more than one machine?  After you build each one the cost is the yarn only i'm guessing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day , a maximum of 365 pieces per year .
At that rate , how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine , with at least $ 500 worth of solar panels ? What if you have more than one machine ?
After you build each one the cost is the yarn only i 'm guessing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day, a maximum of 365 pieces per year.
At that rate, how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine, with at least $500 worth of solar panels?What if you have more than one machine?
After you build each one the cost is the yarn only i'm guessing.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28316163</id>
	<title>Re:what kind of thread and resin is used in this?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244814600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to a "museum catalog" -type web page that is linked-to by the cited page it is built from "viscose" thread (which is probably rayon <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscose\_rayon" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscose\_rayon</a> [wikipedia.org]) and epoxy resin.  IANAPC (polymer chemist).  but I agree with you, this looks like it has DIY fabber <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabber" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabber</a> [wikipedia.org]  possibilities</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to a " museum catalog " -type web page that is linked-to by the cited page it is built from " viscose " thread ( which is probably rayon http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscose \ _rayon [ wikipedia.org ] ) and epoxy resin .
IANAPC ( polymer chemist ) .
but I agree with you , this looks like it has DIY fabber http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabber [ wikipedia.org ] possibilities</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to a "museum catalog" -type web page that is linked-to by the cited page it is built from "viscose" thread (which is probably rayon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscose\_rayon [wikipedia.org]) and epoxy resin.
IANAPC (polymer chemist).
but I agree with you, this looks like it has DIY fabber http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabber [wikipedia.org]  possibilities</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28299875</id>
	<title>Where's the gimmick tag?</title>
	<author>TranscendentalAnarch</author>
	<datestamp>1244713440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>So they hooked a machine to a solar power source whose varied power output results in slightly different products... I guess the little kids in africa and china making overpriced furnishings with imperfections, err, personality... can now be replaced.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>So they hooked a machine to a solar power source whose varied power output results in slightly different products... I guess the little kids in africa and china making overpriced furnishings with imperfections , err , personality... can now be replaced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they hooked a machine to a solar power source whose varied power output results in slightly different products... I guess the little kids in africa and china making overpriced furnishings with imperfections, err, personality... can now be replaced.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300043</id>
	<title>MakerBot--?</title>
	<author>ground.zero.612</author>
	<datestamp>1244714040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seems like I could rig a MakerBot to run on solar or other renewable energy. So I must ask the question, why not buy 1 MakerBot kit and use it to make a FunitureMakerBot?
<br> <br>
You could power it with solar, mechanical, hydro, etc etc etc...  Just a thought.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like I could rig a MakerBot to run on solar or other renewable energy .
So I must ask the question , why not buy 1 MakerBot kit and use it to make a FunitureMakerBot ?
You could power it with solar , mechanical , hydro , etc etc etc... Just a thought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like I could rig a MakerBot to run on solar or other renewable energy.
So I must ask the question, why not buy 1 MakerBot kit and use it to make a FunitureMakerBot?
You could power it with solar, mechanical, hydro, etc etc etc...  Just a thought.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28299865</id>
	<title>what kind of thread and resin is used in this?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244713380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>looks like an interesting DIY project, anyone know the specifics of the thread and resin used to do something like this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>looks like an interesting DIY project , anyone know the specifics of the thread and resin used to do something like this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>looks like an interesting DIY project, anyone know the specifics of the thread and resin used to do something like this?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28303345</id>
	<title>Huh?</title>
	<author>thethibs</author>
	<datestamp>1244731740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess I'm just not cool enough to get the point of this exercise.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess I 'm just not cool enough to get the point of this exercise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess I'm just not cool enough to get the point of this exercise.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28299981</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>Wee\_Bit\_Hazed</author>
	<datestamp>1244713800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They will probably sell each piece for $500.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They will probably sell each piece for $ 500 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They will probably sell each piece for $500.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28299669</id>
	<title>Smaller and darker furniture with cloudy weather?</title>
	<author>101010\_or\_0x2A</author>
	<datestamp>1244712660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Theres goes its practicality in Vancouver....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Theres goes its practicality in Vancouver... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Theres goes its practicality in Vancouver....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300427</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>db10</author>
	<datestamp>1244715300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I crank out about one piece a day, of about the same quality it seems.  At least I have the decency to flush mine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I crank out about one piece a day , of about the same quality it seems .
At least I have the decency to flush mine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I crank out about one piece a day, of about the same quality it seems.
At least I have the decency to flush mine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300149</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244714400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day, a maximum of 365 pieces per year. At that rate, how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine, with at least $500 worth of solar panels?</p></div><p>And of course anything that doesn't bring a profit isn't worth doing.<br>
<br>
This machine doesn't make furniture, it churns out 1 piece of sunlight created functional art a day, which could easily sell for way more than the price of the machine.  I'm not saying <i>I</i> would pay for it, but value is in the eye of the beholder.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day , a maximum of 365 pieces per year .
At that rate , how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine , with at least $ 500 worth of solar panels ? And of course anything that does n't bring a profit is n't worth doing .
This machine does n't make furniture , it churns out 1 piece of sunlight created functional art a day , which could easily sell for way more than the price of the machine .
I 'm not saying I would pay for it , but value is in the eye of the beholder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day, a maximum of 365 pieces per year.
At that rate, how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine, with at least $500 worth of solar panels?And of course anything that doesn't bring a profit isn't worth doing.
This machine doesn't make furniture, it churns out 1 piece of sunlight created functional art a day, which could easily sell for way more than the price of the machine.
I'm not saying I would pay for it, but value is in the eye of the beholder.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28301107</id>
	<title>Misleading Title</title>
	<author>axlash</author>
	<datestamp>1244717760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Saying 'sunlight-shaped' led me to think that the variation in sunlight caused the machine to vary the 3-dimensional form of the furniture. But the machine does nothing of the kind.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Saying 'sunlight-shaped ' led me to think that the variation in sunlight caused the machine to vary the 3-dimensional form of the furniture .
But the machine does nothing of the kind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Saying 'sunlight-shaped' led me to think that the variation in sunlight caused the machine to vary the 3-dimensional form of the furniture.
But the machine does nothing of the kind.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28299749</id>
	<title>And - the punch line is?</title>
	<author>us7892</author>
	<datestamp>1244712960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>So what.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28304031</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244737560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anything relying on commercial success for its continued existence needs to make a profit, yes.</p><p>This is a step forward in furniture in the sense that we one day want to have machines making everything for us from freely available energy and materials--all the way down to bio-engineering plants which can grow into customized shapes. Can you imagine a plant which grows the shape of a couch frame out of, say, oak? Bamboo and seaweed have super-fast growing genes. Why not create a way to grow the frame of a house rather than cut and shape it. Let nature do the work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anything relying on commercial success for its continued existence needs to make a profit , yes.This is a step forward in furniture in the sense that we one day want to have machines making everything for us from freely available energy and materials--all the way down to bio-engineering plants which can grow into customized shapes .
Can you imagine a plant which grows the shape of a couch frame out of , say , oak ?
Bamboo and seaweed have super-fast growing genes .
Why not create a way to grow the frame of a house rather than cut and shape it .
Let nature do the work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anything relying on commercial success for its continued existence needs to make a profit, yes.This is a step forward in furniture in the sense that we one day want to have machines making everything for us from freely available energy and materials--all the way down to bio-engineering plants which can grow into customized shapes.
Can you imagine a plant which grows the shape of a couch frame out of, say, oak?
Bamboo and seaweed have super-fast growing genes.
Why not create a way to grow the frame of a house rather than cut and shape it.
Let nature do the work.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28305095</id>
	<title>You're all hitting a dead tree</title>
	<author>pinkushun</author>
	<datestamp>1244839260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well I like the concept! It's not meant to be pretty, an alternative form of cheap labor, or cure cancer.

<em>"[The idea of the] project was to bring the recording qualities of a tree and its dependence on natural cycles into products. Therefore machines were developed which are recording and producing at the same time."</em>

It helps reading before you spool drivel<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;D</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well I like the concept !
It 's not meant to be pretty , an alternative form of cheap labor , or cure cancer .
" [ The idea of the ] project was to bring the recording qualities of a tree and its dependence on natural cycles into products .
Therefore machines were developed which are recording and producing at the same time .
" It helps reading before you spool drivel ; D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well I like the concept!
It's not meant to be pretty, an alternative form of cheap labor, or cure cancer.
"[The idea of the] project was to bring the recording qualities of a tree and its dependence on natural cycles into products.
Therefore machines were developed which are recording and producing at the same time.
"

It helps reading before you spool drivel ;D</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28299921</id>
	<title>OR...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244713560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you could plug it into an outlet and make more consistent furniture and make it all the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you could plug it into an outlet and make more consistent furniture and make it all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you could plug it into an outlet and make more consistent furniture and make it all the time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300859</id>
	<title>Re:Very interesting</title>
	<author>khellendros1984</author>
	<datestamp>1244716800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But I don't think that this was meant as a prototype for anything. It was meant as an art piece, not as a practical design.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But I do n't think that this was meant as a prototype for anything .
It was meant as an art piece , not as a practical design .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I don't think that this was meant as a prototype for anything.
It was meant as an art piece, not as a practical design.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28302125</id>
	<title>Re:And - the punch line is?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244722620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>no, sows watts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>no , sows watts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no, sows watts.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300449</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>Wonko the Sane</author>
	<datestamp>1244715360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Where does this perverse notion come from that all of human endeavour must be about making a profit?</p></div></blockquote><p>What exactly is perverse about producing more than you consume? That's what a profit is, after all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where does this perverse notion come from that all of human endeavour must be about making a profit ? What exactly is perverse about producing more than you consume ?
That 's what a profit is , after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where does this perverse notion come from that all of human endeavour must be about making a profit?What exactly is perverse about producing more than you consume?
That's what a profit is, after all.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300343</id>
	<title>Re:Very interesting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244715060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think the point was to create something directly usuefull.  The point is to produce a machine that makes things with solar power to learn about solar powered machines.  Often many usless machine's are made before one makes a usueful one.  I beleive they are called prototypes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think the point was to create something directly usuefull .
The point is to produce a machine that makes things with solar power to learn about solar powered machines .
Often many usless machine 's are made before one makes a usueful one .
I beleive they are called prototypes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think the point was to create something directly usuefull.
The point is to produce a machine that makes things with solar power to learn about solar powered machines.
Often many usless machine's are made before one makes a usueful one.
I beleive they are called prototypes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300979</id>
	<title>It is a polymer...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244717280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...composed of plutonium and dioxin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...composed of plutonium and dioxin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...composed of plutonium and dioxin.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28299991</id>
	<title>OMFG</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244713860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's the iPhone killer we've all been waiting for!<br> <br>...for which we've been waiting.  Sorry, everyone. Sorry!  I got a little carried away there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the iPhone killer we 've all been waiting for !
...for which we 've been waiting .
Sorry , everyone .
Sorry ! I got a little carried away there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the iPhone killer we've all been waiting for!
...for which we've been waiting.
Sorry, everyone.
Sorry!  I got a little carried away there.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28305683</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>Another, completely</author>
	<datestamp>1244804160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I try to avoid stereotyping when reading slashdot, but it looks like most of the posters on this article have never seen the inside of an art museum (or even a furniture store that doesn't feature arrows on the floor to show customers which way to walk.)  How much did it cost
<a href="http://www.balloonhq.com/highlights/koons/" title="balloonhq.com">Jeff Koons</a> [balloonhq.com] to build a giant balloon dog out of steel so it looked like actual balloons?  And that can't even be used as practical furniture.  Any revenue from selling individual pieces should be incidental; if they market it right, the machine itself will tour art exhibits.  Things that move, but don't need to be plugged into the wall?  Gold.  What about furniture with a design that reflects the ambient light inside a Guggenheim museum?  It's not Jean Tinguely, but I think Mr. Chino will find somewhere to exhibit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I try to avoid stereotyping when reading slashdot , but it looks like most of the posters on this article have never seen the inside of an art museum ( or even a furniture store that does n't feature arrows on the floor to show customers which way to walk .
) How much did it cost Jeff Koons [ balloonhq.com ] to build a giant balloon dog out of steel so it looked like actual balloons ?
And that ca n't even be used as practical furniture .
Any revenue from selling individual pieces should be incidental ; if they market it right , the machine itself will tour art exhibits .
Things that move , but do n't need to be plugged into the wall ?
Gold. What about furniture with a design that reflects the ambient light inside a Guggenheim museum ?
It 's not Jean Tinguely , but I think Mr. Chino will find somewhere to exhibit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I try to avoid stereotyping when reading slashdot, but it looks like most of the posters on this article have never seen the inside of an art museum (or even a furniture store that doesn't feature arrows on the floor to show customers which way to walk.
)  How much did it cost
Jeff Koons [balloonhq.com] to build a giant balloon dog out of steel so it looked like actual balloons?
And that can't even be used as practical furniture.
Any revenue from selling individual pieces should be incidental; if they market it right, the machine itself will tour art exhibits.
Things that move, but don't need to be plugged into the wall?
Gold.  What about furniture with a design that reflects the ambient light inside a Guggenheim museum?
It's not Jean Tinguely, but I think Mr. Chino will find somewhere to exhibit.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28299759</id>
	<title>Very interesting</title>
	<author>VincenzoRomano</author>
	<datestamp>1244712960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and useless use of the solar energy.</p><p>But maybe I'm too dumb to appreciate it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and useless use of the solar energy.But maybe I 'm too dumb to appreciate it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and useless use of the solar energy.But maybe I'm too dumb to appreciate it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300239</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244714700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day, a maximum of 365 pieces per year. At that rate, how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine, with at least $500 worth of solar panels?</p></div><p>Where does this perverse notion come from that all of human endeavour must be about making a profit?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day , a maximum of 365 pieces per year .
At that rate , how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine , with at least $ 500 worth of solar panels ? Where does this perverse notion come from that all of human endeavour must be about making a profit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day, a maximum of 365 pieces per year.
At that rate, how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine, with at least $500 worth of solar panels?Where does this perverse notion come from that all of human endeavour must be about making a profit?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28308887</id>
	<title>Lazy engineers are easy to spot.</title>
	<author>BenFenner</author>
	<datestamp>1244824320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dev 1: How the hell do we make these glass tubes uniform in color, density and size with varying solar power input to our device?<br>
Dev 2: I dunno, that's a tough problem, we should give it a week and see if we can figure it out.<br>
<br>
one week later<br>
<br>
Dev 1: You got anything?<br>
Dev 2: Not a thing.<br>
Dev 1: Me neither. Fuck it. Let's call it art and be done with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dev 1 : How the hell do we make these glass tubes uniform in color , density and size with varying solar power input to our device ?
Dev 2 : I dunno , that 's a tough problem , we should give it a week and see if we can figure it out .
one week later Dev 1 : You got anything ?
Dev 2 : Not a thing .
Dev 1 : Me neither .
Fuck it .
Let 's call it art and be done with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dev 1: How the hell do we make these glass tubes uniform in color, density and size with varying solar power input to our device?
Dev 2: I dunno, that's a tough problem, we should give it a week and see if we can figure it out.
one week later

Dev 1: You got anything?
Dev 2: Not a thing.
Dev 1: Me neither.
Fuck it.
Let's call it art and be done with it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28299987</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>tsalmark</author>
	<datestamp>1244713800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have you seen the price of designer furniture. If he can get $500 a pop, it wont take long to break even.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you seen the price of designer furniture .
If he can get $ 500 a pop , it wont take long to break even .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you seen the price of designer furniture.
If he can get $500 a pop, it wont take long to break even.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300305</id>
	<title>Re:Very interesting</title>
	<author>stonewallred</author>
	<datestamp>1244714940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would not make a machine like this, nor do i think it is a economic based thing. It is art, pure and simple. I thought it was neat, and pretty interesting, but it does not compare to a good painting or killer song. YMMV.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would not make a machine like this , nor do i think it is a economic based thing .
It is art , pure and simple .
I thought it was neat , and pretty interesting , but it does not compare to a good painting or killer song .
YMMV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would not make a machine like this, nor do i think it is a economic based thing.
It is art, pure and simple.
I thought it was neat, and pretty interesting, but it does not compare to a good painting or killer song.
YMMV.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28301887</id>
	<title>Re:No money in it.</title>
	<author>Peganthyrus</author>
	<datestamp>1244721240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Evidently you've never looked at the price of designer furniture. One.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Evidently you 've never looked at the price of designer furniture .
One .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Evidently you've never looked at the price of designer furniture.
One.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28299879</id>
	<title>No money in it.</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1244713440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day, a maximum of 365 pieces per year. At that rate, how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine, with at least $500 worth of solar panels?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day , a maximum of 365 pieces per year .
At that rate , how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine , with at least $ 500 worth of solar panels ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The machine cranks out 1 piece per day, a maximum of 365 pieces per year.
At that rate, how many years does it take to recoup the cost of the machine, with at least $500 worth of solar panels?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1639256.28300775</id>
	<title>Actually - no... that was not the point...</title>
	<author>denzacar</author>
	<datestamp>1244716500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>In developing "The Idea of a Tree", Mischer'traxler were drawn towards both automated machines and the concept that "a tree is a product of its specific time and place.<br>It reacts and develops according to its surrounding and constantly records various environmental impacts in its growth process.<br>Each single tree tells its own story of development."<br>In their "Idea of a Tree" project they create a product that is a immediately linked to the environment in which it is produced, and fittingly each product bears a stamp notating the date and place where it was created.</p></div><p>The point of the project was to try to emulate a tree and the way it produces fruit.<br>Which is inherently not a very productive process. That is why trees employ redundancy. A lot of it.</p><p>Basically, they have developed a very complicated replacement for a "Made in" stamp.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : In developing " The Idea of a Tree " , Mischer'traxler were drawn towards both automated machines and the concept that " a tree is a product of its specific time and place.It reacts and develops according to its surrounding and constantly records various environmental impacts in its growth process.Each single tree tells its own story of development .
" In their " Idea of a Tree " project they create a product that is a immediately linked to the environment in which it is produced , and fittingly each product bears a stamp notating the date and place where it was created.The point of the project was to try to emulate a tree and the way it produces fruit.Which is inherently not a very productive process .
That is why trees employ redundancy .
A lot of it.Basically , they have developed a very complicated replacement for a " Made in " stamp .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:In developing "The Idea of a Tree", Mischer'traxler were drawn towards both automated machines and the concept that "a tree is a product of its specific time and place.It reacts and develops according to its surrounding and constantly records various environmental impacts in its growth process.Each single tree tells its own story of development.
"In their "Idea of a Tree" project they create a product that is a immediately linked to the environment in which it is produced, and fittingly each product bears a stamp notating the date and place where it was created.The point of the project was to try to emulate a tree and the way it produces fruit.Which is inherently not a very productive process.
That is why trees employ redundancy.
A lot of it.Basically, they have developed a very complicated replacement for a "Made in" stamp.
	</sentencetext>
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