<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_10_124241</id>
	<title>Palm's webOS Root Image Leaks Out</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1244638560000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://mosheatymkatz.net/" rel="nofollow">Kohenkatz</a> writes <i>"As noted in PreCentral.net's forums, <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/09/palms-webos-root-image-leaks-out-code-enthusiasts-reschedule-t/">the 'webOS Reset Doctor' has been leaked</a>. It includes the webOS root image. From the article: 'Code-inclined individuals on the PreCentral forums have already cracked open the ROM and are <a href="http://www.precentral.net/pre-developer-rom-uncovered-could-lead-hackingcustomization">getting an unfettered glimpse</a> at the Palm's new platform, which, for the layman, means it should open the doors for some crazy Pre hacking and possibly hint, by way of unfinished / unused code, at what's to come for the platform &mdash; and, if we're really lucky, maybe someone will be able to look at this and move us one step closer to an unlocked Pre that could jump onto Verizon's network. Amusingly, you also get to see all the comments left by the devs in the code, guaranteeing a few good chuckles from others who can relate.'"</i>
People have already uncovered <a href="http://www.precentral.net/aol-msn-icons-discovered-rom-image">icons for MSN and AOL</a>, as well as <a href="http://www.precentral.net/palm-eos-pixie-confirmed">references to the Palm Eos</a>, a <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/30/palm-eos-super-thin-3g-and-headed-to-atandt/">rumored successor to the Centro line</a>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kohenkatz writes " As noted in PreCentral.net 's forums , the 'webOS Reset Doctor ' has been leaked .
It includes the webOS root image .
From the article : 'Code-inclined individuals on the PreCentral forums have already cracked open the ROM and are getting an unfettered glimpse at the Palm 's new platform , which , for the layman , means it should open the doors for some crazy Pre hacking and possibly hint , by way of unfinished / unused code , at what 's to come for the platform    and , if we 're really lucky , maybe someone will be able to look at this and move us one step closer to an unlocked Pre that could jump onto Verizon 's network .
Amusingly , you also get to see all the comments left by the devs in the code , guaranteeing a few good chuckles from others who can relate .
' " People have already uncovered icons for MSN and AOL , as well as references to the Palm Eos , a rumored successor to the Centro line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kohenkatz writes "As noted in PreCentral.net's forums, the 'webOS Reset Doctor' has been leaked.
It includes the webOS root image.
From the article: 'Code-inclined individuals on the PreCentral forums have already cracked open the ROM and are getting an unfettered glimpse at the Palm's new platform, which, for the layman, means it should open the doors for some crazy Pre hacking and possibly hint, by way of unfinished / unused code, at what's to come for the platform — and, if we're really lucky, maybe someone will be able to look at this and move us one step closer to an unlocked Pre that could jump onto Verizon's network.
Amusingly, you also get to see all the comments left by the devs in the code, guaranteeing a few good chuckles from others who can relate.
'"
People have already uncovered icons for MSN and AOL, as well as references to the Palm Eos, a rumored successor to the Centro line.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28281861</id>
	<title>Re:Amunition for Apple?</title>
	<author>spire3661</author>
	<datestamp>1244657760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple would be VERY foolish to take legal action against Palm. Palm can BURY Apple in mobile patents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple would be VERY foolish to take legal action against Palm .
Palm can BURY Apple in mobile patents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple would be VERY foolish to take legal action against Palm.
Palm can BURY Apple in mobile patents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279727</id>
	<title>Good for developers</title>
	<author>StreetStealth</author>
	<datestamp>1244648880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This could actually be very good for developers versus the iPhone.</p><p>The plan is, from my understanding, that the WebOS SDK should allow devs to build capable but high-level apps in a Javascript-style environment (though I'm pretty sure these things are still compiled). Thus a lower barrier to entry than even the iPhone, at the expense of more intensive system-level access.</p><p>If Pre homebrew software doesn't require firmware modification like the iPhone does (does the Pre even need to be jailbroken?), that goes a long way toward legitimizing it to a mainstream audience, giving potential Pre developers two possible avenues for development.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This could actually be very good for developers versus the iPhone.The plan is , from my understanding , that the WebOS SDK should allow devs to build capable but high-level apps in a Javascript-style environment ( though I 'm pretty sure these things are still compiled ) .
Thus a lower barrier to entry than even the iPhone , at the expense of more intensive system-level access.If Pre homebrew software does n't require firmware modification like the iPhone does ( does the Pre even need to be jailbroken ?
) , that goes a long way toward legitimizing it to a mainstream audience , giving potential Pre developers two possible avenues for development .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This could actually be very good for developers versus the iPhone.The plan is, from my understanding, that the WebOS SDK should allow devs to build capable but high-level apps in a Javascript-style environment (though I'm pretty sure these things are still compiled).
Thus a lower barrier to entry than even the iPhone, at the expense of more intensive system-level access.If Pre homebrew software doesn't require firmware modification like the iPhone does (does the Pre even need to be jailbroken?
), that goes a long way toward legitimizing it to a mainstream audience, giving potential Pre developers two possible avenues for development.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278507</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't work that way</title>
	<author>park3r</author>
	<datestamp>1244643900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read that the Palm Pre will hit Verizon in about <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/28/verizon-wireless-to-carry-palm-pre-storm-2-in-about-six-months/" title="engadget.com" rel="nofollow">six months</a> [engadget.com]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.<br>
<br>
While you're right about moving phones between carriers, it doesn't seem to matter in this case.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read that the Palm Pre will hit Verizon in about six months [ engadget.com ] .
While you 're right about moving phones between carriers , it does n't seem to matter in this case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read that the Palm Pre will hit Verizon in about six months [engadget.com] .
While you're right about moving phones between carriers, it doesn't seem to matter in this case.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279979</id>
	<title>Re:It's the network</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1244650020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I vote for the ads. Frankly Verizon is the least geek friendly carrier out there. I don't like AT&amp;T because of their politics involving things like community Fiber and Wifi. Anyone remember what they did in New Orleans? After the hurricane they offered the police the use of one of their buildings until New Orleans started to work on a community WiFi system then kicked them out. Or their statements on net neutrality?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I vote for the ads .
Frankly Verizon is the least geek friendly carrier out there .
I do n't like AT&amp;T because of their politics involving things like community Fiber and Wifi .
Anyone remember what they did in New Orleans ?
After the hurricane they offered the police the use of one of their buildings until New Orleans started to work on a community WiFi system then kicked them out .
Or their statements on net neutrality ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I vote for the ads.
Frankly Verizon is the least geek friendly carrier out there.
I don't like AT&amp;T because of their politics involving things like community Fiber and Wifi.
Anyone remember what they did in New Orleans?
After the hurricane they offered the police the use of one of their buildings until New Orleans started to work on a community WiFi system then kicked them out.
Or their statements on net neutrality?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278825</id>
	<title>title and summary conflict</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244645400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The title and the summary of this article aren't in total agreement (one says Reset Doctor, other says root image).<br>The Reset Doctor wasn't leaked, its available on Palm's site:  <a href="http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/common/article/32759\_en.html" title="palm.com" rel="nofollow">http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/common/article/32759\_en.html</a> [palm.com]<br>The WebOS root image is what I would consider being leaked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The title and the summary of this article are n't in total agreement ( one says Reset Doctor , other says root image ) .The Reset Doctor was n't leaked , its available on Palm 's site : http : //kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/common/article/32759 \ _en.html [ palm.com ] The WebOS root image is what I would consider being leaked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The title and the summary of this article aren't in total agreement (one says Reset Doctor, other says root image).The Reset Doctor wasn't leaked, its available on Palm's site:  http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/common/article/32759\_en.html [palm.com]The WebOS root image is what I would consider being leaked.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279875</id>
	<title>Re:Amunition for Apple?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1244649540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think there is any chance of Apple suing Palm over this.  It's much more likely that they will release a 'security update' to iTunes which 'accidentally' causes it to reject the Pre.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think there is any chance of Apple suing Palm over this .
It 's much more likely that they will release a 'security update ' to iTunes which 'accidentally ' causes it to reject the Pre .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think there is any chance of Apple suing Palm over this.
It's much more likely that they will release a 'security update' to iTunes which 'accidentally' causes it to reject the Pre.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279733</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't work that way</title>
	<author>ezelkow1</author>
	<datestamp>1244648880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Definitely agree with this.  I have a few friends that actually left verizon due to their nazi tactics on their phone.  They had preinstalled banners and color schemes that the user was just flat out not allowed to change without hacking it all up.  Back then there wasnt much knowledge on getting into the razrs to do it either.  So they all left and went to either att or sprint.
<br>
I have sprint and have never had any issues with them, also like the fact the phones are not really locked down at all, I can do pretty much whatever I want with mine.  It also helps that a sprint plan compared to an att plan is almost 40/mo cheaper with a corporate discount that just about anyone working for a large corp can get, and thats just a regular talk+text plan</htmltext>
<tokenext>Definitely agree with this .
I have a few friends that actually left verizon due to their nazi tactics on their phone .
They had preinstalled banners and color schemes that the user was just flat out not allowed to change without hacking it all up .
Back then there wasnt much knowledge on getting into the razrs to do it either .
So they all left and went to either att or sprint .
I have sprint and have never had any issues with them , also like the fact the phones are not really locked down at all , I can do pretty much whatever I want with mine .
It also helps that a sprint plan compared to an att plan is almost 40/mo cheaper with a corporate discount that just about anyone working for a large corp can get , and thats just a regular talk + text plan</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Definitely agree with this.
I have a few friends that actually left verizon due to their nazi tactics on their phone.
They had preinstalled banners and color schemes that the user was just flat out not allowed to change without hacking it all up.
Back then there wasnt much knowledge on getting into the razrs to do it either.
So they all left and went to either att or sprint.
I have sprint and have never had any issues with them, also like the fact the phones are not really locked down at all, I can do pretty much whatever I want with mine.
It also helps that a sprint plan compared to an att plan is almost 40/mo cheaper with a corporate discount that just about anyone working for a large corp can get, and thats just a regular talk+text plan</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279305</id>
	<title>Has palm published GPL modifications?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244647320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I assume the root image indicates modifications to GPL source, like Webkit.<br>Have they published the changes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I assume the root image indicates modifications to GPL source , like Webkit.Have they published the changes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assume the root image indicates modifications to GPL source, like Webkit.Have they published the changes?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279547</id>
	<title>Re:But Why?</title>
	<author>NekSnappa</author>
	<datestamp>1244648220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where I live AT&amp;T's signal is almost nonexistent. Since my cell is my home phone as well, that makes it a non-starter for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where I live AT&amp;T 's signal is almost nonexistent .
Since my cell is my home phone as well , that makes it a non-starter for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where I live AT&amp;T's signal is almost nonexistent.
Since my cell is my home phone as well, that makes it a non-starter for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279277</id>
	<title>Ta3o</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244647260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">Ba\ckward and s4id 1. Therefore there rapid,</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ba \ ckward and s4id 1 .
Therefore there rapid , [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ba\ckward and s4id 1.
Therefore there rapid, [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28282035</id>
	<title>Re:Cool, but where are the kernel sources?</title>
	<author>RegularFry</author>
	<datestamp>1244658300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I refer you to a <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1263599&amp;cid=28281917" title="slashdot.org">comment</a> [slashdot.org] I made downthread.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I refer you to a comment [ slashdot.org ] I made downthread .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I refer you to a comment [slashdot.org] I made downthread.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279759</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't work that way</title>
	<author>Em Ellel</author>
	<datestamp>1244649000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I thought people would eventually learn this after all the discussion of "why can't I move my iPhone to Verizon?" In the US, Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. Each phone has to be developed for each specific network. AT&amp;T and T-Mobile use GSM, the worldwide standard where phones can be "unlocked" and moved to other networks (as long as the phone support the frequencies used by those networks).  So don't hold your breath waiting for a Verizon Pre.</p></div><p>Just to add to the whole "You Are Wrong" reply crowd - you are wrong - but it is still very hard to transfer handset between Sprint and Verizon. They use same system and people (including myself) used to transfer handsets from Sprint to Verizon all the time - took come hacking (change home network ids and roaming lists), but its not technically impossible and with Verizon being notorious for never having any decent recent handsets, it was a necessity. But a number of years ago Verizon decided to be nasty and they now whitelist their own phones, so that when you try to activate a non-Verizon phone they refuse to. Its not a technical limitation - just a business stupidity on part of Verizon. I never understood it either, as they claim to loose money on handsets, so providing service without providing the handset should benefit them, no....</p><p>-Em</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought people would eventually learn this after all the discussion of " why ca n't I move my iPhone to Verizon ?
" In the US , Verizon and Sprint use CDMA .
Each phone has to be developed for each specific network .
AT&amp;T and T-Mobile use GSM , the worldwide standard where phones can be " unlocked " and moved to other networks ( as long as the phone support the frequencies used by those networks ) .
So do n't hold your breath waiting for a Verizon Pre.Just to add to the whole " You Are Wrong " reply crowd - you are wrong - but it is still very hard to transfer handset between Sprint and Verizon .
They use same system and people ( including myself ) used to transfer handsets from Sprint to Verizon all the time - took come hacking ( change home network ids and roaming lists ) , but its not technically impossible and with Verizon being notorious for never having any decent recent handsets , it was a necessity .
But a number of years ago Verizon decided to be nasty and they now whitelist their own phones , so that when you try to activate a non-Verizon phone they refuse to .
Its not a technical limitation - just a business stupidity on part of Verizon .
I never understood it either , as they claim to loose money on handsets , so providing service without providing the handset should benefit them , no....-Em</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought people would eventually learn this after all the discussion of "why can't I move my iPhone to Verizon?
" In the US, Verizon and Sprint use CDMA.
Each phone has to be developed for each specific network.
AT&amp;T and T-Mobile use GSM, the worldwide standard where phones can be "unlocked" and moved to other networks (as long as the phone support the frequencies used by those networks).
So don't hold your breath waiting for a Verizon Pre.Just to add to the whole "You Are Wrong" reply crowd - you are wrong - but it is still very hard to transfer handset between Sprint and Verizon.
They use same system and people (including myself) used to transfer handsets from Sprint to Verizon all the time - took come hacking (change home network ids and roaming lists), but its not technically impossible and with Verizon being notorious for never having any decent recent handsets, it was a necessity.
But a number of years ago Verizon decided to be nasty and they now whitelist their own phones, so that when you try to activate a non-Verizon phone they refuse to.
Its not a technical limitation - just a business stupidity on part of Verizon.
I never understood it either, as they claim to loose money on handsets, so providing service without providing the handset should benefit them, no....-Em
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28280733</id>
	<title>Re:But Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244653380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Up until a couple of days ago, Sprint was a super awesome company with only crap phones. I love them, and everyone who I talk to that has them loves them too.  I'll take mediocre customer service (face it, you get it with all the carriers) and a low bill, thanks.
<br>I just priced out a Pre data plan yesterday:<ul> <li>Family plan, 2 lines - that's 2 Pre's</li><li>1500 shared minutes, plus free nights/weekends, plus unlimited in-network calling</li><li>unlimited text messaging</li><li>unlimited data</li><li>$130/month</li></ul><p>
The iphone is slick and cool, but the monthly price premium is just not worth it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Up until a couple of days ago , Sprint was a super awesome company with only crap phones .
I love them , and everyone who I talk to that has them loves them too .
I 'll take mediocre customer service ( face it , you get it with all the carriers ) and a low bill , thanks .
I just priced out a Pre data plan yesterday : Family plan , 2 lines - that 's 2 Pre's1500 shared minutes , plus free nights/weekends , plus unlimited in-network callingunlimited text messagingunlimited data $ 130/month The iphone is slick and cool , but the monthly price premium is just not worth it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Up until a couple of days ago, Sprint was a super awesome company with only crap phones.
I love them, and everyone who I talk to that has them loves them too.
I'll take mediocre customer service (face it, you get it with all the carriers) and a low bill, thanks.
I just priced out a Pre data plan yesterday: Family plan, 2 lines - that's 2 Pre's1500 shared minutes, plus free nights/weekends, plus unlimited in-network callingunlimited text messagingunlimited data$130/month
The iphone is slick and cool, but the monthly price premium is just not worth it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279951</id>
	<title>Re:But Why?</title>
	<author>krzy123</author>
	<datestamp>1244649840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can add/remove ringtones/pics from my phone over bluetooth just fine.

I have a LG Venus on verizon.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can add/remove ringtones/pics from my phone over bluetooth just fine .
I have a LG Venus on verizon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can add/remove ringtones/pics from my phone over bluetooth just fine.
I have a LG Venus on verizon.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278793</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't work that way</title>
	<author>ZaMoose</author>
	<datestamp>1244645280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uhh, and the Pre is sold by Sprint, thus nuking your point (from orbit).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhh , and the Pre is sold by Sprint , thus nuking your point ( from orbit ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhh, and the Pre is sold by Sprint, thus nuking your point (from orbit).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278583</id>
	<title>Unlocking it for verizon</title>
	<author>keeegan</author>
	<datestamp>1244644320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>What does the phone's rom have to do with this? I've unlocked sprint treos for verizon. You just have to reprogram the prl on the cdma chip. No firmware/OS modification involved. Has something drastically changed, or does the op just not understand?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What does the phone 's rom have to do with this ?
I 've unlocked sprint treos for verizon .
You just have to reprogram the prl on the cdma chip .
No firmware/OS modification involved .
Has something drastically changed , or does the op just not understand ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What does the phone's rom have to do with this?
I've unlocked sprint treos for verizon.
You just have to reprogram the prl on the cdma chip.
No firmware/OS modification involved.
Has something drastically changed, or does the op just not understand?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278715</id>
	<title>Please God no</title>
	<author>PeeAitchPee</author>
	<datestamp>1244644920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>People have already uncovered icons for MSN and AOL</i> </p><p>Where's the DMCA crew when you need them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People have already uncovered icons for MSN and AOL Where 's the DMCA crew when you need them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> People have already uncovered icons for MSN and AOL Where's the DMCA crew when you need them?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279195</id>
	<title>Re:Will this make be an iPhone killer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244646960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not until you can develop Pre apps in something other than Javascript/HTML/CSS...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not until you can develop Pre apps in something other than Javascript/HTML/CSS.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not until you can develop Pre apps in something other than Javascript/HTML/CSS...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279163</id>
	<title>What legal theory?</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1244646780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wonder if this will help Apple launch a legal assault regarding the Pre's ability to masquerade as an iPod?</p></div><p>Sega, Chamberlain, and Lexmark tried and failed to block Genesis-compatible game cartridges, LiftMaster-compatible garage door openers, and Lexmark-compatible toner cartridges in U.S. court, both before and after the DMCA. So I wonder what legal theory Apple might use for this.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if this will help Apple launch a legal assault regarding the Pre 's ability to masquerade as an iPod ? Sega , Chamberlain , and Lexmark tried and failed to block Genesis-compatible game cartridges , LiftMaster-compatible garage door openers , and Lexmark-compatible toner cartridges in U.S. court , both before and after the DMCA .
So I wonder what legal theory Apple might use for this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if this will help Apple launch a legal assault regarding the Pre's ability to masquerade as an iPod?Sega, Chamberlain, and Lexmark tried and failed to block Genesis-compatible game cartridges, LiftMaster-compatible garage door openers, and Lexmark-compatible toner cartridges in U.S. court, both before and after the DMCA.
So I wonder what legal theory Apple might use for this.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28284431</id>
	<title>Re:But Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244624940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Verizon SUCKS beyond all imagination.   I recently moved to a house which had, oh no! - a "DEAD ZONE".   But, their lies -- I MEAN -- commercials show a couple moving into a house in a dead zone with "the network guy" and his geek cronies following behind telling them "its OK!  you're covered!"    BULL FUCKING SHIT.     The secretary of the CEO of Verizon Wireless actually told me "there are plenty of other carriers,sir.  maybe you should investigate the others and make a move to one of them that does work".   This is the world's "largest" wireless carrier.  They do not give one shit about you as a customer.  All they want is your money each month.  If you cant pay, wont pay or dont wish to pay anymore -- they dont give a shit.  They'll tell you not to let the door hit them you in the ass on the way out.  You know what is great, though?  I am on the verge of developing a product which will need dedicated 3G access.  Guess who is NEVER going to get my business???   You got it.  The verizon fuck heads.   And people wonder where customer loyalty has gone?  hahahahahahha!  Idiots.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Verizon SUCKS beyond all imagination .
I recently moved to a house which had , oh no !
- a " DEAD ZONE " .
But , their lies -- I MEAN -- commercials show a couple moving into a house in a dead zone with " the network guy " and his geek cronies following behind telling them " its OK !
you 're covered !
" BULL FUCKING SHIT .
The secretary of the CEO of Verizon Wireless actually told me " there are plenty of other carriers,sir .
maybe you should investigate the others and make a move to one of them that does work " .
This is the world 's " largest " wireless carrier .
They do not give one shit about you as a customer .
All they want is your money each month .
If you cant pay , wont pay or dont wish to pay anymore -- they dont give a shit .
They 'll tell you not to let the door hit them you in the ass on the way out .
You know what is great , though ?
I am on the verge of developing a product which will need dedicated 3G access .
Guess who is NEVER going to get my business ? ? ?
You got it .
The verizon fuck heads .
And people wonder where customer loyalty has gone ?
hahahahahahha ! Idiots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Verizon SUCKS beyond all imagination.
I recently moved to a house which had, oh no!
- a "DEAD ZONE".
But, their lies -- I MEAN -- commercials show a couple moving into a house in a dead zone with "the network guy" and his geek cronies following behind telling them "its OK!
you're covered!
"    BULL FUCKING SHIT.
The secretary of the CEO of Verizon Wireless actually told me "there are plenty of other carriers,sir.
maybe you should investigate the others and make a move to one of them that does work".
This is the world's "largest" wireless carrier.
They do not give one shit about you as a customer.
All they want is your money each month.
If you cant pay, wont pay or dont wish to pay anymore -- they dont give a shit.
They'll tell you not to let the door hit them you in the ass on the way out.
You know what is great, though?
I am on the verge of developing a product which will need dedicated 3G access.
Guess who is NEVER going to get my business???
You got it.
The verizon fuck heads.
And people wonder where customer loyalty has gone?
hahahahahahha!  Idiots.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279147</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28281757</id>
	<title>Re:But Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244657340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>T-mobile for the most part - nice company with crappy phones and 3G coverage sucks if that is important for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>T-mobile for the most part - nice company with crappy phones and 3G coverage sucks if that is important for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>T-mobile for the most part - nice company with crappy phones and 3G coverage sucks if that is important for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279147</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279521</id>
	<title>Re:Will this make be an iPhone killer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244648160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Will this make be an iPhone killer?</p><p>The benefits of a real smartphone with the convenience of a monopoly provider doesn't quite do it for me.</p></div><p>Doubt it. You can't kill stupidity - general crowd will always go for style over substance. The best Palm can hope for is getting the geek crowd that actually understands why Pre is better, but even they can frequently be swayed by the "ooooh - shiny".</p><p>-Em</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Will this make be an iPhone killer ? The benefits of a real smartphone with the convenience of a monopoly provider does n't quite do it for me.Doubt it .
You ca n't kill stupidity - general crowd will always go for style over substance .
The best Palm can hope for is getting the geek crowd that actually understands why Pre is better , but even they can frequently be swayed by the " ooooh - shiny " .-Em</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will this make be an iPhone killer?The benefits of a real smartphone with the convenience of a monopoly provider doesn't quite do it for me.Doubt it.
You can't kill stupidity - general crowd will always go for style over substance.
The best Palm can hope for is getting the geek crowd that actually understands why Pre is better, but even they can frequently be swayed by the "ooooh - shiny".-Em
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278293</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278349</id>
	<title>Dich Chaney &amp; George W Bush</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244643000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The most powerful super villain since Hitler, and his bumbling sidekick ruined America and the world.</p><p>That's what evil and dumb people do.</p><p>So don't vote for people like them, you bumbling yokels.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The most powerful super villain since Hitler , and his bumbling sidekick ruined America and the world.That 's what evil and dumb people do.So do n't vote for people like them , you bumbling yokels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most powerful super villain since Hitler, and his bumbling sidekick ruined America and the world.That's what evil and dumb people do.So don't vote for people like them, you bumbling yokels.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278661</id>
	<title>Cool, but where are the kernel sources?</title>
	<author>Qubit</author>
	<datestamp>1244644680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cracking open the ROM is nifty and all (although it might cause issues for you later if you want to develop on the platform), but what I still want to know is <em>where are the Palm Pre Linux kernel sources?</em>.</p><p>I've looked all over the Palm sites and even <a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&amp;q=palm+pre+linux+kernel+source" title="google.com">Googled</a> [google.com] <a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&amp;q=webos+linux+source" title="google.com">for it</a> [google.com], but I haven't come up with anything but speculation. I can't believe that they're using a prebuilt kernel from TI, so what gives?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cracking open the ROM is nifty and all ( although it might cause issues for you later if you want to develop on the platform ) , but what I still want to know is where are the Palm Pre Linux kernel sources ? .I 've looked all over the Palm sites and even Googled [ google.com ] for it [ google.com ] , but I have n't come up with anything but speculation .
I ca n't believe that they 're using a prebuilt kernel from TI , so what gives ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cracking open the ROM is nifty and all (although it might cause issues for you later if you want to develop on the platform), but what I still want to know is where are the Palm Pre Linux kernel sources?.I've looked all over the Palm sites and even Googled [google.com] for it [google.com], but I haven't come up with anything but speculation.
I can't believe that they're using a prebuilt kernel from TI, so what gives?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278267</id>
	<title>also found in the root image</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244642520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/10/the-secret-to-palm-pre-dev-mode-lies-in-the-konami-code/" title="engadget.com">dev mode enabled using the konami code</a> [engadget.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>dev mode enabled using the konami code [ engadget.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>dev mode enabled using the konami code [engadget.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278747</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't work that way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244645040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wrong... Verizon and Sprint are CDMA. All you have to do to put a Sprint phone on the Verizon network is for Verizon to activate it.<br>What I don't get is why is everyone so hot for it to move to Verizon.<br>Sprint is several hundred dollars a year cheaper for the same plan. I have had no problems with converage on Sprint and there network is actually pretty fast.<br>As far as customer support I have not had any issues with them.<br>I wonder how much of the Sprint hate is left over and how much of it is current. And don't the people on slashdot know that Verizon is infamous for taking functionality out of phones and putting their own crappy slow interface on them? Sprint is actually pretty open about what you can install even on their feature phones.<br>When I asked Verizon about installing Opera mini on one of their Razors I was told that you couldn't. Of course the sales guy might have been an idiot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wrong... Verizon and Sprint are CDMA .
All you have to do to put a Sprint phone on the Verizon network is for Verizon to activate it.What I do n't get is why is everyone so hot for it to move to Verizon.Sprint is several hundred dollars a year cheaper for the same plan .
I have had no problems with converage on Sprint and there network is actually pretty fast.As far as customer support I have not had any issues with them.I wonder how much of the Sprint hate is left over and how much of it is current .
And do n't the people on slashdot know that Verizon is infamous for taking functionality out of phones and putting their own crappy slow interface on them ?
Sprint is actually pretty open about what you can install even on their feature phones.When I asked Verizon about installing Opera mini on one of their Razors I was told that you could n't .
Of course the sales guy might have been an idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wrong... Verizon and Sprint are CDMA.
All you have to do to put a Sprint phone on the Verizon network is for Verizon to activate it.What I don't get is why is everyone so hot for it to move to Verizon.Sprint is several hundred dollars a year cheaper for the same plan.
I have had no problems with converage on Sprint and there network is actually pretty fast.As far as customer support I have not had any issues with them.I wonder how much of the Sprint hate is left over and how much of it is current.
And don't the people on slashdot know that Verizon is infamous for taking functionality out of phones and putting their own crappy slow interface on them?
Sprint is actually pretty open about what you can install even on their feature phones.When I asked Verizon about installing Opera mini on one of their Razors I was told that you couldn't.
Of course the sales guy might have been an idiot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279019</id>
	<title>Re:Amunition for Apple?</title>
	<author>EXrider</author>
	<datestamp>1244646240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The BlackBerry Desktop software has allowed you to sync iTunes libraries with crackberries for a while now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The BlackBerry Desktop software has allowed you to sync iTunes libraries with crackberries for a while now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The BlackBerry Desktop software has allowed you to sync iTunes libraries with crackberries for a while now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28280003</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't work that way</title>
	<author>Em Ellel</author>
	<datestamp>1244650140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What I don't get is why is everyone so hot for it to move to Verizon.</p></div><p>I've owned Sprint phones, Verizon phones, and currently AT&amp;T phones. I can tell you this about Verizon:<br>.<br>Their service sucks - stupidity, bordering on maliciousness<br>Their handset selection sucks - they never have anything decent or anything recent<br>They love to cripple what little they DO have.<br>They are expensive compared to others.<br>.<br>All that said, I'd switch back to Verizon in a heartbeat if they had a decent phone (and Pre seems like a great phone).Why? Because unlike AT&amp;T or Sprint, their service actually works everywhere, including places AT&amp;T seems to think no one goes to - like inside buildings. When I had Verizon I used to make fun of all those people looking for signal, cause I could always take out my handset and get decent reception. Now I am one of the clowns who are forever searching for signal. Sad, really, but hey, I have a nicer handset.....</p><p>-Em</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What I do n't get is why is everyone so hot for it to move to Verizon.I 've owned Sprint phones , Verizon phones , and currently AT&amp;T phones .
I can tell you this about Verizon : .Their service sucks - stupidity , bordering on maliciousnessTheir handset selection sucks - they never have anything decent or anything recentThey love to cripple what little they DO have.They are expensive compared to others..All that said , I 'd switch back to Verizon in a heartbeat if they had a decent phone ( and Pre seems like a great phone ) .Why ?
Because unlike AT&amp;T or Sprint , their service actually works everywhere , including places AT&amp;T seems to think no one goes to - like inside buildings .
When I had Verizon I used to make fun of all those people looking for signal , cause I could always take out my handset and get decent reception .
Now I am one of the clowns who are forever searching for signal .
Sad , really , but hey , I have a nicer handset.....-Em</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I don't get is why is everyone so hot for it to move to Verizon.I've owned Sprint phones, Verizon phones, and currently AT&amp;T phones.
I can tell you this about Verizon:.Their service sucks - stupidity, bordering on maliciousnessTheir handset selection sucks - they never have anything decent or anything recentThey love to cripple what little they DO have.They are expensive compared to others..All that said, I'd switch back to Verizon in a heartbeat if they had a decent phone (and Pre seems like a great phone).Why?
Because unlike AT&amp;T or Sprint, their service actually works everywhere, including places AT&amp;T seems to think no one goes to - like inside buildings.
When I had Verizon I used to make fun of all those people looking for signal, cause I could always take out my handset and get decent reception.
Now I am one of the clowns who are forever searching for signal.
Sad, really, but hey, I have a nicer handset.....-Em
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28283983</id>
	<title>Re:Cool, but where are the kernel sources?</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1244666520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're not required to put the source on the web, just to provide it when requested. (And even then, only by paying customers, i.e. customers who have the compiled version.) Have you called up someone at Palm and requested it yet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're not required to put the source on the web , just to provide it when requested .
( And even then , only by paying customers , i.e .
customers who have the compiled version .
) Have you called up someone at Palm and requested it yet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're not required to put the source on the web, just to provide it when requested.
(And even then, only by paying customers, i.e.
customers who have the compiled version.
) Have you called up someone at Palm and requested it yet?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278661</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278383</id>
	<title>It doesn't work that way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244643240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If we're really lucky, maybe someone will be able to look at this and move us one step closer to an unlocked Pre that could jump onto Verizon's network.</p></div><p>I thought people would eventually learn this after all the discussion of "why can't I move my iPhone to Verizon?" In the US, Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. Each phone has to be developed for each specific network. AT&amp;T and T-Mobile use GSM, the worldwide standard where phones can be "unlocked" and moved to other networks (as long as the phone support the frequencies used by those networks).  So don't hold your breath waiting for a Verizon Pre.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If we 're really lucky , maybe someone will be able to look at this and move us one step closer to an unlocked Pre that could jump onto Verizon 's network.I thought people would eventually learn this after all the discussion of " why ca n't I move my iPhone to Verizon ?
" In the US , Verizon and Sprint use CDMA .
Each phone has to be developed for each specific network .
AT&amp;T and T-Mobile use GSM , the worldwide standard where phones can be " unlocked " and moved to other networks ( as long as the phone support the frequencies used by those networks ) .
So do n't hold your breath waiting for a Verizon Pre .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we're really lucky, maybe someone will be able to look at this and move us one step closer to an unlocked Pre that could jump onto Verizon's network.I thought people would eventually learn this after all the discussion of "why can't I move my iPhone to Verizon?
" In the US, Verizon and Sprint use CDMA.
Each phone has to be developed for each specific network.
AT&amp;T and T-Mobile use GSM, the worldwide standard where phones can be "unlocked" and moved to other networks (as long as the phone support the frequencies used by those networks).
So don't hold your breath waiting for a Verizon Pre.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279031</id>
	<title>Re:"for the layman"?</title>
	<author>EraserMouseMan</author>
	<datestamp>1244646300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Basically it doesn't mean much for the layman. The iPhone has been hacked over and over many times. Developers/hackers/uber-geeks alike now have another cool piece of software to rip apart and discover and then make cool mods &amp; bolt-ons. It's just a lot of fun. If you are only into using the phone for its intended purpose then this will be of little value to you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Basically it does n't mean much for the layman .
The iPhone has been hacked over and over many times .
Developers/hackers/uber-geeks alike now have another cool piece of software to rip apart and discover and then make cool mods &amp; bolt-ons .
It 's just a lot of fun .
If you are only into using the phone for its intended purpose then this will be of little value to you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Basically it doesn't mean much for the layman.
The iPhone has been hacked over and over many times.
Developers/hackers/uber-geeks alike now have another cool piece of software to rip apart and discover and then make cool mods &amp; bolt-ons.
It's just a lot of fun.
If you are only into using the phone for its intended purpose then this will be of little value to you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278635</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278791</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't work that way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244645280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Verizon will let you use ANY device on their network that conforms to the CDMA specifications.  See <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/verizon-wireless-opens-network-to-any-apps-any-device-in-2008/" title="engadget.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/verizon-wireless-opens-network-to-any-apps-any-device-in-2008/</a> [engadget.com]

This most likely includes the Pre, even without any modifications.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Verizon will let you use ANY device on their network that conforms to the CDMA specifications .
See http : //www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/verizon-wireless-opens-network-to-any-apps-any-device-in-2008/ [ engadget.com ] This most likely includes the Pre , even without any modifications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Verizon will let you use ANY device on their network that conforms to the CDMA specifications.
See http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/27/verizon-wireless-opens-network-to-any-apps-any-device-in-2008/ [engadget.com]

This most likely includes the Pre, even without any modifications.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278941</id>
	<title>Who really cares about the Pre?</title>
	<author>not-quite-rite</author>
	<datestamp>1244645880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love that it has a Linux based operating system.  The hardware looks kinda nice.</p><p>But it's coming into an already crowded market.  Competing with the iphone is not going to be easy.  At least the iphone comes from a background of an integrated product line.  Ie Buy MacBook for computer, Ipod for music, Iphone for telecoms.</p><p>Palm doesn't have that.  It's got a proprietary version of the operating system.  Only runs on one(maybe two with Pixie) piece of hardware, and is competing with very well established lines of smart phones and feature phones(ie anything with S60, WinMo, Blackberry etc)</p><p>If Palm had released it 5 years ago(or maybe when it bought BeOS), I would care a lot more.</p><p>Android is my bet, as I should be able to concentrate on hardware upgrades, and not having to learn another crappy software interface.  I want a good operating system that works on multiple hardware platforms-and not WinMo(I said "good"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love that it has a Linux based operating system .
The hardware looks kinda nice.But it 's coming into an already crowded market .
Competing with the iphone is not going to be easy .
At least the iphone comes from a background of an integrated product line .
Ie Buy MacBook for computer , Ipod for music , Iphone for telecoms.Palm does n't have that .
It 's got a proprietary version of the operating system .
Only runs on one ( maybe two with Pixie ) piece of hardware , and is competing with very well established lines of smart phones and feature phones ( ie anything with S60 , WinMo , Blackberry etc ) If Palm had released it 5 years ago ( or maybe when it bought BeOS ) , I would care a lot more.Android is my bet , as I should be able to concentrate on hardware upgrades , and not having to learn another crappy software interface .
I want a good operating system that works on multiple hardware platforms-and not WinMo ( I said " good " : P )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love that it has a Linux based operating system.
The hardware looks kinda nice.But it's coming into an already crowded market.
Competing with the iphone is not going to be easy.
At least the iphone comes from a background of an integrated product line.
Ie Buy MacBook for computer, Ipod for music, Iphone for telecoms.Palm doesn't have that.
It's got a proprietary version of the operating system.
Only runs on one(maybe two with Pixie) piece of hardware, and is competing with very well established lines of smart phones and feature phones(ie anything with S60, WinMo, Blackberry etc)If Palm had released it 5 years ago(or maybe when it bought BeOS), I would care a lot more.Android is my bet, as I should be able to concentrate on hardware upgrades, and not having to learn another crappy software interface.
I want a good operating system that works on multiple hardware platforms-and not WinMo(I said "good" :P )</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279111</id>
	<title>It's the network</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1244646600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What I don't get is why is everyone so hot for it to move to Verizon.</p></div><p>Probably because the people who complain live in areas where Verizon is perceived to provide a more reliable signal than Sprint. Might it have something to do with the scores of network technicians portrayed in Verizon's television ads?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What I do n't get is why is everyone so hot for it to move to Verizon.Probably because the people who complain live in areas where Verizon is perceived to provide a more reliable signal than Sprint .
Might it have something to do with the scores of network technicians portrayed in Verizon 's television ads ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I don't get is why is everyone so hot for it to move to Verizon.Probably because the people who complain live in areas where Verizon is perceived to provide a more reliable signal than Sprint.
Might it have something to do with the scores of network technicians portrayed in Verizon's television ads?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278747</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278463</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't work that way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244643720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's nothing fundamental about CDMA preventing the switch to verizon.  Indeed, in europe, GSM <em>uses</em> CDMA as its underlying protocol, rather than the noisy, wasteful, fail-intolerant TDMA it used to use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's nothing fundamental about CDMA preventing the switch to verizon .
Indeed , in europe , GSM uses CDMA as its underlying protocol , rather than the noisy , wasteful , fail-intolerant TDMA it used to use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's nothing fundamental about CDMA preventing the switch to verizon.
Indeed, in europe, GSM uses CDMA as its underlying protocol, rather than the noisy, wasteful, fail-intolerant TDMA it used to use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278383</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279325</id>
	<title>Re:Will this make be an iPhone killer?</title>
	<author>pushf popf</author>
	<datestamp>1244647380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>At the risk of being branded a heretic, if I wanted a crappy computer with a tiny screen and keyboard, I'd buy a Sinclair.<br> <br>

Why does every chunk of plastic in the world want to be my computer?</htmltext>
<tokenext>At the risk of being branded a heretic , if I wanted a crappy computer with a tiny screen and keyboard , I 'd buy a Sinclair .
Why does every chunk of plastic in the world want to be my computer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the risk of being branded a heretic, if I wanted a crappy computer with a tiny screen and keyboard, I'd buy a Sinclair.
Why does every chunk of plastic in the world want to be my computer?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278293</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279543</id>
	<title>Re:But Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244648220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>AT&amp;T doesn't provide anywhere near the same <a href="http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">humor value </a> [blogspot.com] that Verizon does.</htmltext>
<tokenext>AT&amp;T does n't provide anywhere near the same humor value [ blogspot.com ] that Verizon does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AT&amp;T doesn't provide anywhere near the same humor value  [blogspot.com] that Verizon does.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279147</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278265</id>
	<title>an obama leaked out of my ass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244642520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>before I had a chance to drop it off at the whitehouse<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</htmltext>
<tokenext>before I had a chance to drop it off at the whitehouse : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>before I had a chance to drop it off at the whitehouse :(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278635</id>
	<title>"for the layman"?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244644560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> [...] which, for the layman, means [...]</p> </div><p>A layman wouldn't know what anything <i>on this website</i> would mean, much less TFA.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ ... ] which , for the layman , means [ ... ] A layman would n't know what anything on this website would mean , much less TFA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> [...] which, for the layman, means [...] A layman wouldn't know what anything on this website would mean, much less TFA.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278625</id>
	<title>Intiguing comment?</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1244644500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Amusingly, you also get to see all the comments left by the devs in the code, guaranteeing a few good chuckles from others who can relate
</i> <p>

Really? How many people could relate to finding just one comment in an assembly language module?</p><p>

MOV  1750            # RIP JSB</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amusingly , you also get to see all the comments left by the devs in the code , guaranteeing a few good chuckles from others who can relate Really ?
How many people could relate to finding just one comment in an assembly language module ?
MOV 1750 # RIP JSB</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amusingly, you also get to see all the comments left by the devs in the code, guaranteeing a few good chuckles from others who can relate
 

Really?
How many people could relate to finding just one comment in an assembly language module?
MOV  1750            # RIP JSB</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278303</id>
	<title>Post "first post!"</title>
	<author>jimbudncl</author>
	<datestamp>1244642760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was trying for Pre "first post!", but my existential metaphysical co-processor had a meltdown.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was trying for Pre " first post !
" , but my existential metaphysical co-processor had a meltdown .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was trying for Pre "first post!
", but my existential metaphysical co-processor had a meltdown.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279147</id>
	<title>But Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244646720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>jump onto Verizon's network</p></div><p>Is Verizon really that lovable? I know all the iPhone haters are quick to point to AT&amp;T as the worst cell phone carrier, but is there really so much love out there for Verizon?</p><p>For every AT&amp;T phone I've had that supported bluetooth I've never had any trouble moving ringtones and pictures on and off the phone directly from my computer. I had heard that Verizon pretty much always disables features like that in order to force you to use their fee based options. I've never understood how someone who dislikes AT&amp;T could have any love for Verizon.</p><p>I totally understand people rooting for the underdog, but loving Verizon and hating Sprint I just don't understand. Every time a new smartphone comes out it seems there's a huge clamor to use it on some carrier other than the one who's got an exclusive deal for the new phone.</p><p>Are there really any wireless carriers out there that are super awesome great companies who just unfortunately only offer crap phones?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>jump onto Verizon 's networkIs Verizon really that lovable ?
I know all the iPhone haters are quick to point to AT&amp;T as the worst cell phone carrier , but is there really so much love out there for Verizon ? For every AT&amp;T phone I 've had that supported bluetooth I 've never had any trouble moving ringtones and pictures on and off the phone directly from my computer .
I had heard that Verizon pretty much always disables features like that in order to force you to use their fee based options .
I 've never understood how someone who dislikes AT&amp;T could have any love for Verizon.I totally understand people rooting for the underdog , but loving Verizon and hating Sprint I just do n't understand .
Every time a new smartphone comes out it seems there 's a huge clamor to use it on some carrier other than the one who 's got an exclusive deal for the new phone.Are there really any wireless carriers out there that are super awesome great companies who just unfortunately only offer crap phones ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>jump onto Verizon's networkIs Verizon really that lovable?
I know all the iPhone haters are quick to point to AT&amp;T as the worst cell phone carrier, but is there really so much love out there for Verizon?For every AT&amp;T phone I've had that supported bluetooth I've never had any trouble moving ringtones and pictures on and off the phone directly from my computer.
I had heard that Verizon pretty much always disables features like that in order to force you to use their fee based options.
I've never understood how someone who dislikes AT&amp;T could have any love for Verizon.I totally understand people rooting for the underdog, but loving Verizon and hating Sprint I just don't understand.
Every time a new smartphone comes out it seems there's a huge clamor to use it on some carrier other than the one who's got an exclusive deal for the new phone.Are there really any wireless carriers out there that are super awesome great companies who just unfortunately only offer crap phones?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28281251</id>
	<title>Re:Cool, but where are the kernel sources?</title>
	<author>zlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1244655360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GPL demands the sources available to be available to paying customers. The customers are free to upload them to The Pirate Bay, but if they don't, the only option to look at them is to buy the device. A lot of router and modem manufacturers provide GPL'd sources on an included CD.</p><p>Now if Palm doesn't include the sources or provide a link to download them, it's a different story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GPL demands the sources available to be available to paying customers .
The customers are free to upload them to The Pirate Bay , but if they do n't , the only option to look at them is to buy the device .
A lot of router and modem manufacturers provide GPL 'd sources on an included CD.Now if Palm does n't include the sources or provide a link to download them , it 's a different story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GPL demands the sources available to be available to paying customers.
The customers are free to upload them to The Pirate Bay, but if they don't, the only option to look at them is to buy the device.
A lot of router and modem manufacturers provide GPL'd sources on an included CD.Now if Palm doesn't include the sources or provide a link to download them, it's a different story.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278661</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28281889</id>
	<title>Best signal coverage</title>
	<author>KingAlanI</author>
	<datestamp>1244657820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I keep on hearing from various sources (anecdotally) that Verizon has the best signal coverage, at least in my area. That probably has something to do with it.</p><p>And some people may want to try and move their phones because they can.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep on hearing from various sources ( anecdotally ) that Verizon has the best signal coverage , at least in my area .
That probably has something to do with it.And some people may want to try and move their phones because they can .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep on hearing from various sources (anecdotally) that Verizon has the best signal coverage, at least in my area.
That probably has something to do with it.And some people may want to try and move their phones because they can.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279147</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28282125</id>
	<title>Re:Intiguing comment?</title>
	<author>mobilesteve</author>
	<datestamp>1244658660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My guess is that comment makes reference to the fact that Johann Sebastian Bach died in 1750</htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is that comment makes reference to the fact that Johann Sebastian Bach died in 1750</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is that comment makes reference to the fact that Johann Sebastian Bach died in 1750</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278625</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279215</id>
	<title>Re:Amunition for Apple?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244647020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet Palm is dying for Apple to sue.  Prohibiting Palm's device from syncing to iTunes when Apple has a competative product... I smell anti-trust...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet Palm is dying for Apple to sue .
Prohibiting Palm 's device from syncing to iTunes when Apple has a competative product... I smell anti-trust.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet Palm is dying for Apple to sue.
Prohibiting Palm's device from syncing to iTunes when Apple has a competative product... I smell anti-trust...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278539</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278539</id>
	<title>Amunition for Apple?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244644080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if this will help Apple launch a legal assault regarding the Pre's ability to masquerade as an iPod?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if this will help Apple launch a legal assault regarding the Pre 's ability to masquerade as an iPod ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if this will help Apple launch a legal assault regarding the Pre's ability to masquerade as an iPod?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28296153</id>
	<title>Re:But Why?</title>
	<author>yoden</author>
	<datestamp>1244743620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You heard wrong; you've been able to freely transfer ringtones on most verizon phones since pretty much forever.  I have heard they've been changing their store around this year though, so we'll see what happens...</htmltext>
<tokenext>You heard wrong ; you 've been able to freely transfer ringtones on most verizon phones since pretty much forever .
I have heard they 've been changing their store around this year though , so we 'll see what happens.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You heard wrong; you've been able to freely transfer ringtones on most verizon phones since pretty much forever.
I have heard they've been changing their store around this year though, so we'll see what happens...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279147</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278479</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't work that way</title>
	<author>corsec67</author>
	<datestamp>1244643780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sprint absorbed Nextel, which isn't CDMA or GSM, but is iDen. They are phasing it out, but last year I got what turned out to be a Nextel phone from Sprint since CDMA doesn't interfere with radios as much.</p><p>iDen is similar to GSM in terms of interfering with radios.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sprint absorbed Nextel , which is n't CDMA or GSM , but is iDen .
They are phasing it out , but last year I got what turned out to be a Nextel phone from Sprint since CDMA does n't interfere with radios as much.iDen is similar to GSM in terms of interfering with radios .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sprint absorbed Nextel, which isn't CDMA or GSM, but is iDen.
They are phasing it out, but last year I got what turned out to be a Nextel phone from Sprint since CDMA doesn't interfere with radios as much.iDen is similar to GSM in terms of interfering with radios.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278383</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28307259</id>
	<title>Re:Will this make be an iPhone killer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244817600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Pre will decimate the iPhone.  No, it's not because the Pre can multitask or has a keyboard or has 12 apps available (yeah, 12!  No more hunting though thousands of apps to get what you want!).</p><p>The reason the Pre will kill the iPhone can be summed up in one word - NASCAR!  The Pre had NASCAR on it.  Yeah!</p><p>So all you iPhone/Blackberry fans can keep your phone with thousands of applications and I'll be kickin' it NASCAR style with my Pre!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Pre will decimate the iPhone .
No , it 's not because the Pre can multitask or has a keyboard or has 12 apps available ( yeah , 12 !
No more hunting though thousands of apps to get what you want !
) .The reason the Pre will kill the iPhone can be summed up in one word - NASCAR !
The Pre had NASCAR on it .
Yeah ! So all you iPhone/Blackberry fans can keep your phone with thousands of applications and I 'll be kickin ' it NASCAR style with my Pre !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Pre will decimate the iPhone.
No, it's not because the Pre can multitask or has a keyboard or has 12 apps available (yeah, 12!
No more hunting though thousands of apps to get what you want!
).The reason the Pre will kill the iPhone can be summed up in one word - NASCAR!
The Pre had NASCAR on it.
Yeah!So all you iPhone/Blackberry fans can keep your phone with thousands of applications and I'll be kickin' it NASCAR style with my Pre!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278293</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28278293</id>
	<title>Will this make be an iPhone killer?</title>
	<author>stavros-59</author>
	<datestamp>1244642760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The benefits of a real smartphone with the convenience of a monopoly provider doesn't quite do it for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The benefits of a real smartphone with the convenience of a monopoly provider does n't quite do it for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The benefits of a real smartphone with the convenience of a monopoly provider doesn't quite do it for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28282675</id>
	<title>Re:But Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244660940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Verizon are controlling, anti-competetive asses.  Almost none of their phones have wi-fi (including the Storm, which - it's said - had it removed at VZW's behest) because they want to trap you on *thei* network.</p><p>I bought a Verizon phone (because my then-GF had a VZW phone as her only one, and we could talk on the same network for free), one with a keyboard and decent display, only to find that if I wanted to use their network to access my *own* IMAP server I'd have to pay them $20 per month extra for the privilege.</p><p>F Verizon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Verizon are controlling , anti-competetive asses .
Almost none of their phones have wi-fi ( including the Storm , which - it 's said - had it removed at VZW 's behest ) because they want to trap you on * thei * network.I bought a Verizon phone ( because my then-GF had a VZW phone as her only one , and we could talk on the same network for free ) , one with a keyboard and decent display , only to find that if I wanted to use their network to access my * own * IMAP server I 'd have to pay them $ 20 per month extra for the privilege.F Verizon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Verizon are controlling, anti-competetive asses.
Almost none of their phones have wi-fi (including the Storm, which - it's said - had it removed at VZW's behest) because they want to trap you on *thei* network.I bought a Verizon phone (because my then-GF had a VZW phone as her only one, and we could talk on the same network for free), one with a keyboard and decent display, only to find that if I wanted to use their network to access my *own* IMAP server I'd have to pay them $20 per month extra for the privilege.F Verizon.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_124241.28279147</parent>
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