<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_09_1626223</id>
	<title>GPS Shoes For Alzheimer's Patients</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1244574660000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>A shoe-maker, Aetrex Worldwide, and GTX Corp, a company that makes miniaturized Global Positioning Satellite tracking and location-transmitting devices, are teaming up to make <a href="http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,25596210-5014239,00.html">shoes for people suffering from Alzheimer's Disease</a>. "The technology will provide the location of the individual wearing the shoes within 9m (30 feet), anywhere on the planet. Sixty per cent of individuals afflicted with Alzheimer's Disease will be involved in a 'critical wandering incident' at least once during the progression of the disease &mdash; many more than once," said Andrew Carle, an assistant professor at George Mason University who served as an advisor on the project. Not only will this technology allow a caretaker to find a loved one with a click of a mouse, but the shoes are more humanizing than a bell hung around the neck.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A shoe-maker , Aetrex Worldwide , and GTX Corp , a company that makes miniaturized Global Positioning Satellite tracking and location-transmitting devices , are teaming up to make shoes for people suffering from Alzheimer 's Disease .
" The technology will provide the location of the individual wearing the shoes within 9m ( 30 feet ) , anywhere on the planet .
Sixty per cent of individuals afflicted with Alzheimer 's Disease will be involved in a 'critical wandering incident ' at least once during the progression of the disease    many more than once , " said Andrew Carle , an assistant professor at George Mason University who served as an advisor on the project .
Not only will this technology allow a caretaker to find a loved one with a click of a mouse , but the shoes are more humanizing than a bell hung around the neck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A shoe-maker, Aetrex Worldwide, and GTX Corp, a company that makes miniaturized Global Positioning Satellite tracking and location-transmitting devices, are teaming up to make shoes for people suffering from Alzheimer's Disease.
"The technology will provide the location of the individual wearing the shoes within 9m (30 feet), anywhere on the planet.
Sixty per cent of individuals afflicted with Alzheimer's Disease will be involved in a 'critical wandering incident' at least once during the progression of the disease — many more than once," said Andrew Carle, an assistant professor at George Mason University who served as an advisor on the project.
Not only will this technology allow a caretaker to find a loved one with a click of a mouse, but the shoes are more humanizing than a bell hung around the neck.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270263</id>
	<title>I call bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244579340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>The technology will provide the location of the individual wearing the shoes within 9m (30 feet), anywhere on the planet.</i> <br> <br>Just as long as they are not in a tunnel, inside a large building, in a canyon, or have any other obstacles around them that block signal from the GPS or block the signal that this device transmits, of course! Why do marketers continue to insist that GPS is some kind of magic technology that works everywhere, and ignore the limitations of technology? This probably won't even work inside some of the nursing homes where Alzheimer's patients normally reside!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The technology will provide the location of the individual wearing the shoes within 9m ( 30 feet ) , anywhere on the planet .
Just as long as they are not in a tunnel , inside a large building , in a canyon , or have any other obstacles around them that block signal from the GPS or block the signal that this device transmits , of course !
Why do marketers continue to insist that GPS is some kind of magic technology that works everywhere , and ignore the limitations of technology ?
This probably wo n't even work inside some of the nursing homes where Alzheimer 's patients normally reside !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The technology will provide the location of the individual wearing the shoes within 9m (30 feet), anywhere on the planet.
Just as long as they are not in a tunnel, inside a large building, in a canyon, or have any other obstacles around them that block signal from the GPS or block the signal that this device transmits, of course!
Why do marketers continue to insist that GPS is some kind of magic technology that works everywhere, and ignore the limitations of technology?
This probably won't even work inside some of the nursing homes where Alzheimer's patients normally reside!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28273665</id>
	<title>No, this is seriously useful!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244554920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Following her doctor prescription for Alzheimer, grandma started walking at 62, slowly first, then faster and faster.</p><p>Now she's 97 and we don't have the slightest idea where she is...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Following her doctor prescription for Alzheimer , grandma started walking at 62 , slowly first , then faster and faster.Now she 's 97 and we do n't have the slightest idea where she is.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Following her doctor prescription for Alzheimer, grandma started walking at 62, slowly first, then faster and faster.Now she's 97 and we don't have the slightest idea where she is...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28269969</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270399</id>
	<title>Now under development...</title>
	<author>serutan</author>
	<datestamp>1244579820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A device for forcing Alzheimer's patients to keep their shoes on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A device for forcing Alzheimer 's patients to keep their shoes on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A device for forcing Alzheimer's patients to keep their shoes on.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271767</id>
	<title>Re:Keep them from wandering away in the first plac</title>
	<author>wowbagger</author>
	<datestamp>1244542800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another technique I've heard of is painting a big black rectangle in front of the exit doors - like a big pit.</p><p>The patients will not cross it, but everybody else will walk right over it.</p><p>I've had the misfortune of watching a loved one descend through the hell that is Alzheimer's, and watched what that did to rest of the family. To the various humor-impaired slashbots: it's about as funny as having your testicles sucked out of your scrotum with a shopvac - that is, hilarious in the abstract, until you have to experience it personally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another technique I 've heard of is painting a big black rectangle in front of the exit doors - like a big pit.The patients will not cross it , but everybody else will walk right over it.I 've had the misfortune of watching a loved one descend through the hell that is Alzheimer 's , and watched what that did to rest of the family .
To the various humor-impaired slashbots : it 's about as funny as having your testicles sucked out of your scrotum with a shopvac - that is , hilarious in the abstract , until you have to experience it personally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another technique I've heard of is painting a big black rectangle in front of the exit doors - like a big pit.The patients will not cross it, but everybody else will walk right over it.I've had the misfortune of watching a loved one descend through the hell that is Alzheimer's, and watched what that did to rest of the family.
To the various humor-impaired slashbots: it's about as funny as having your testicles sucked out of your scrotum with a shopvac - that is, hilarious in the abstract, until you have to experience it personally.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270231</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270165</id>
	<title>Pants</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244579040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wearable electronics is pants</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wearable electronics is pants</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wearable electronics is pants</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28274949</id>
	<title>Why not just gas them and be done with it</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1244566260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Humanity, you fail at it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Humanity , you fail at it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Humanity, you fail at it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270161</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270565</id>
	<title>Re:This is great and all....</title>
	<author>L3370</author>
	<datestamp>1244580420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I believe there are more than enough interested parties to keep our GPS satellites up and running.

Goverments of numerous countries make use of this ttechnology. Many commercial organizations profit from this technology as well. As long as there is someone that is able to make money off of this I'm sure funding will be available as well...

Where did you get this statistic of GPS failing in less than 2 years?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe there are more than enough interested parties to keep our GPS satellites up and running .
Goverments of numerous countries make use of this ttechnology .
Many commercial organizations profit from this technology as well .
As long as there is someone that is able to make money off of this I 'm sure funding will be available as well.. . Where did you get this statistic of GPS failing in less than 2 years ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe there are more than enough interested parties to keep our GPS satellites up and running.
Goverments of numerous countries make use of this ttechnology.
Many commercial organizations profit from this technology as well.
As long as there is someone that is able to make money off of this I'm sure funding will be available as well...

Where did you get this statistic of GPS failing in less than 2 years?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270279</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270141</id>
	<title>I lost my shoe :(</title>
	<author>Scrameustache</author>
	<datestamp>1244578980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I don't know where I am...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I do n't know where I am.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I don't know where I am...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270187</id>
	<title>why "for Alzheimer's patients"?</title>
	<author>panthroman</author>
	<datestamp>1244579100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GPS shoes could track... anyone wearing the shoes.  <a href="http://ask.slashdot.org/story/09/06/01/1659209/Making-a-Child-Locating-System" title="slashdot.org">Wandering children</a> [slashdot.org], suspicious spouses, prisoners, whomever you want.</p><p>Am I missing something, or is this story less "new tech" and more "we finally found a relatively non-controversial market."  Congrats for the shareholders, but hardly newsworthy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GPS shoes could track... anyone wearing the shoes .
Wandering children [ slashdot.org ] , suspicious spouses , prisoners , whomever you want.Am I missing something , or is this story less " new tech " and more " we finally found a relatively non-controversial market .
" Congrats for the shareholders , but hardly newsworthy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GPS shoes could track... anyone wearing the shoes.
Wandering children [slashdot.org], suspicious spouses, prisoners, whomever you want.Am I missing something, or is this story less "new tech" and more "we finally found a relatively non-controversial market.
"  Congrats for the shareholders, but hardly newsworthy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28279299</id>
	<title>Cool!</title>
	<author>atomic-penguin</author>
	<datestamp>1244647320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just what I need, GPS navigation for my shoes.</p><p>Turn left in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.01 miles...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just what I need , GPS navigation for my shoes.Turn left in .01 miles.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just what I need, GPS navigation for my shoes.Turn left in .01 miles...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270967</id>
	<title>good try</title>
	<author>BigJClark</author>
	<datestamp>1244539140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>
And the effort is appreciated, but my grandfather-in-law is in his latter stages of the disease, and he always wanders off without his shoes, different peoples' glasses, without a shirt.  Its incredibly dangerous in the winter months here.
<br> <br>
I'm afraid I believe this idea will not catch hold.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And the effort is appreciated , but my grandfather-in-law is in his latter stages of the disease , and he always wanders off without his shoes , different peoples ' glasses , without a shirt .
Its incredibly dangerous in the winter months here .
I 'm afraid I believe this idea will not catch hold .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
And the effort is appreciated, but my grandfather-in-law is in his latter stages of the disease, and he always wanders off without his shoes, different peoples' glasses, without a shirt.
Its incredibly dangerous in the winter months here.
I'm afraid I believe this idea will not catch hold.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270627</id>
	<title>Re:Other Uses</title>
	<author>orngjce223</author>
	<datestamp>1244580780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think a little pod with a touchscreen, bearing buttons for "Store", "Home", "Visiting Susie", etc. which would stay highlighted when one pressed them (and show when you pressed them), just-press-them-again-to-deactivate would work.  Heck, it could be an iPhone app...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think a little pod with a touchscreen , bearing buttons for " Store " , " Home " , " Visiting Susie " , etc .
which would stay highlighted when one pressed them ( and show when you pressed them ) , just-press-them-again-to-deactivate would work .
Heck , it could be an iPhone app.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think a little pod with a touchscreen, bearing buttons for "Store", "Home", "Visiting Susie", etc.
which would stay highlighted when one pressed them (and show when you pressed them), just-press-them-again-to-deactivate would work.
Heck, it could be an iPhone app...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270101</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270309</id>
	<title>The adventurous Alzheimer</title>
	<author>sls1j</author>
	<datestamp>1244579460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>And for those adventurous Alzheimer patients who want a 'critical wandering incident' Achme is now offering tinfoil shoe coverings.
<br> <br>
--Achme Sales Rep.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And for those adventurous Alzheimer patients who want a 'critical wandering incident ' Achme is now offering tinfoil shoe coverings .
--Achme Sales Rep .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And for those adventurous Alzheimer patients who want a 'critical wandering incident' Achme is now offering tinfoil shoe coverings.
--Achme Sales Rep.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270971</id>
	<title>Re:Oh</title>
	<author>EkriirkE</author>
	<datestamp>1244539140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>this should be modded insightful.  Stray alz patients often forgo necessary gear when trekking</htmltext>
<tokenext>this should be modded insightful .
Stray alz patients often forgo necessary gear when trekking</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this should be modded insightful.
Stray alz patients often forgo necessary gear when trekking</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28269969</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28274845</id>
	<title>Re:Oh</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1244565060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and if they remember to put them on they'll be mugged for their expensive GPS shoes. "Quick, roll grandpa! He's wearing a Garmin"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and if they remember to put them on they 'll be mugged for their expensive GPS shoes .
" Quick , roll grandpa !
He 's wearing a Garmin "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and if they remember to put them on they'll be mugged for their expensive GPS shoes.
"Quick, roll grandpa!
He's wearing a Garmin"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28269969</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271739</id>
	<title>The World's Stupidest Idea:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244542680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm going to lie down for a nap now. I think I'll take my shoes off.</p><p>Four hours later.   I 'm going to visit the son and the kids.</p><p>Hi , son! How you been?</p><p>Son: Dad , why the bloody feet.</p><p>Dad: I'd walk 10 miles to see you , son!</p><p>Dumb. Very F*&amp;king dumb !!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm going to lie down for a nap now .
I think I 'll take my shoes off.Four hours later .
I 'm going to visit the son and the kids.Hi , son !
How you been ? Son : Dad , why the bloody feet.Dad : I 'd walk 10 miles to see you , son ! Dumb .
Very F * &amp;king dumb !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm going to lie down for a nap now.
I think I'll take my shoes off.Four hours later.
I 'm going to visit the son and the kids.Hi , son!
How you been?Son: Dad , why the bloody feet.Dad: I'd walk 10 miles to see you , son!Dumb.
Very F*&amp;king dumb !
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271001</id>
	<title>Hollywood's new hit...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244539260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, where's my shoe?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , where 's my shoe ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, where's my shoe?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270161</id>
	<title>Is this really the best solution?</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1244578980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course they could always take their shoes off. Wouldn't it be much better to prevent them from wandering off in the first place? I know of a great piece of technology that quite effectively keeps them where they can be found. It's called a "leash", and it works pretty well -- at least on my dog! Alzheimer's patients would even be much easier than my dog to train not to wrap it around posts, too!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course they could always take their shoes off .
Would n't it be much better to prevent them from wandering off in the first place ?
I know of a great piece of technology that quite effectively keeps them where they can be found .
It 's called a " leash " , and it works pretty well -- at least on my dog !
Alzheimer 's patients would even be much easier than my dog to train not to wrap it around posts , too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course they could always take their shoes off.
Wouldn't it be much better to prevent them from wandering off in the first place?
I know of a great piece of technology that quite effectively keeps them where they can be found.
It's called a "leash", and it works pretty well -- at least on my dog!
Alzheimer's patients would even be much easier than my dog to train not to wrap it around posts, too!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270583</id>
	<title>Working as intended</title>
	<author>kindbud</author>
	<datestamp>1244580540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>This probably won't even work inside some of the nursing homes where Alzheimer's patients normally reside!</i></p><p>This is for patients who wander off due to their diminished mental capacity.  If they are inside the nursing home, they haven't wandered off and tracking isn't needed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This probably wo n't even work inside some of the nursing homes where Alzheimer 's patients normally reside ! This is for patients who wander off due to their diminished mental capacity .
If they are inside the nursing home , they have n't wandered off and tracking is n't needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This probably won't even work inside some of the nursing homes where Alzheimer's patients normally reside!This is for patients who wander off due to their diminished mental capacity.
If they are inside the nursing home, they haven't wandered off and tracking isn't needed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270263</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271751</id>
	<title>But when they get on a plane.</title>
	<author>Ungrounded Lightning</author>
	<datestamp>1244542680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Speaking of terrorists...</p><p>This should get interesting for the Alzheimer's patients when they try to get on a plane and the TSA thinks they are wearing shoe bombs.</p><p>And can you imagine the poor Alzheimer's patient in the security isolation room trying to explain what's with the electronics in the shoe?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking of terrorists...This should get interesting for the Alzheimer 's patients when they try to get on a plane and the TSA thinks they are wearing shoe bombs.And can you imagine the poor Alzheimer 's patient in the security isolation room trying to explain what 's with the electronics in the shoe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speaking of terrorists...This should get interesting for the Alzheimer's patients when they try to get on a plane and the TSA thinks they are wearing shoe bombs.And can you imagine the poor Alzheimer's patient in the security isolation room trying to explain what's with the electronics in the shoe?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270025</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28272381</id>
	<title>Wouldn't work for my grandma</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244545860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My grandmother spend the last year of her life in assisted living. Her first night in the facility, at 0030, she escaped.</p><p>The outside doors were equipped with electromagnetic locks to keep the residents from escaping, however, to comply with life safety codes, leaning on a door for 30 seconds continuously would sound an exit alarm and release the lock.</p><p>She figured that out. The staff heard the alarm and stopped her about 50 feet out the door. She repeated it the next night. Her room windows were locked with bayonet pins, however, most single-hung windows require more strength to open than most Alzheimer's patients could probably apply to lifting a window.</p><p>When she lived at home, she wandered out of the house and made it a whole block--she walked to the police station "looking for her father", they called Grandpa, and he went to get her.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My grandmother spend the last year of her life in assisted living .
Her first night in the facility , at 0030 , she escaped.The outside doors were equipped with electromagnetic locks to keep the residents from escaping , however , to comply with life safety codes , leaning on a door for 30 seconds continuously would sound an exit alarm and release the lock.She figured that out .
The staff heard the alarm and stopped her about 50 feet out the door .
She repeated it the next night .
Her room windows were locked with bayonet pins , however , most single-hung windows require more strength to open than most Alzheimer 's patients could probably apply to lifting a window.When she lived at home , she wandered out of the house and made it a whole block--she walked to the police station " looking for her father " , they called Grandpa , and he went to get her .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My grandmother spend the last year of her life in assisted living.
Her first night in the facility, at 0030, she escaped.The outside doors were equipped with electromagnetic locks to keep the residents from escaping, however, to comply with life safety codes, leaning on a door for 30 seconds continuously would sound an exit alarm and release the lock.She figured that out.
The staff heard the alarm and stopped her about 50 feet out the door.
She repeated it the next night.
Her room windows were locked with bayonet pins, however, most single-hung windows require more strength to open than most Alzheimer's patients could probably apply to lifting a window.When she lived at home, she wandered out of the house and made it a whole block--she walked to the police station "looking for her father", they called Grandpa, and he went to get her.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270103</id>
	<title>Oh Good!</title>
	<author>Alzheimers</author>
	<datestamp>1244578800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was wondering if I'd watered the plants or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was wondering if I 'd watered the plants or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was wondering if I'd watered the plants or not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271053</id>
	<title>If I'm ever that senile</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244539560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I ever lose my mind like that, just let me die.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I ever lose my mind like that , just let me die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I ever lose my mind like that, just let me die.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270553</id>
	<title>Re:I call bullshit</title>
	<author>lazyforker</author>
	<datestamp>1244580420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>The technology will provide the location of the individual wearing the shoes within 9m (30 feet), anywhere on the planet.</i>

Just as long as they are not in a tunnel, inside a large building, in a canyon, or have any other obstacles around them that block signal from the GPS or block the signal that this device transmits, of course! Why do marketers continue to insist that GPS is some kind of magic technology that works everywhere, and ignore the limitations of technology? This probably won't even work inside some of the nursing homes where Alzheimer's patients normally reside!</p></div><p>Plus they might wander off in their slippers, barefoot, in someone else's shoes etc...  My grandmother (who had Alzeheimer's) regularly went for long walks in her slippers, nightie and robe. Luckily she had lived in a small village for almost 50 years - and everyone who found her knew who she was.  Giving her GPS shoes would have been a waste of money and time.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The technology will provide the location of the individual wearing the shoes within 9m ( 30 feet ) , anywhere on the planet .
Just as long as they are not in a tunnel , inside a large building , in a canyon , or have any other obstacles around them that block signal from the GPS or block the signal that this device transmits , of course !
Why do marketers continue to insist that GPS is some kind of magic technology that works everywhere , and ignore the limitations of technology ?
This probably wo n't even work inside some of the nursing homes where Alzheimer 's patients normally reside ! Plus they might wander off in their slippers , barefoot , in someone else 's shoes etc... My grandmother ( who had Alzeheimer 's ) regularly went for long walks in her slippers , nightie and robe .
Luckily she had lived in a small village for almost 50 years - and everyone who found her knew who she was .
Giving her GPS shoes would have been a waste of money and time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The technology will provide the location of the individual wearing the shoes within 9m (30 feet), anywhere on the planet.
Just as long as they are not in a tunnel, inside a large building, in a canyon, or have any other obstacles around them that block signal from the GPS or block the signal that this device transmits, of course!
Why do marketers continue to insist that GPS is some kind of magic technology that works everywhere, and ignore the limitations of technology?
This probably won't even work inside some of the nursing homes where Alzheimer's patients normally reside!Plus they might wander off in their slippers, barefoot, in someone else's shoes etc...  My grandmother (who had Alzeheimer's) regularly went for long walks in her slippers, nightie and robe.
Luckily she had lived in a small village for almost 50 years - and everyone who found her knew who she was.
Giving her GPS shoes would have been a waste of money and time.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270263</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270247</id>
	<title>But is it better than a marker?</title>
	<author>localman57</author>
	<datestamp>1244579280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about this:  We modify Grandma's shoes with a Sharpie to say "My home number is 555-1234" (or whatever for the nursing home).

I have a hard time believing that the marker idea isn't better than a shoe that will likely cost hundreds to thousands of dollars ( old people often need custom orthopedics)and a cellular/GPRS/SMS/whatever subscritpion to report the information.

Both solutions assume that the altzheimer's patient will remember to put their shoes on before they go walking...</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about this : We modify Grandma 's shoes with a Sharpie to say " My home number is 555-1234 " ( or whatever for the nursing home ) .
I have a hard time believing that the marker idea is n't better than a shoe that will likely cost hundreds to thousands of dollars ( old people often need custom orthopedics ) and a cellular/GPRS/SMS/whatever subscritpion to report the information .
Both solutions assume that the altzheimer 's patient will remember to put their shoes on before they go walking.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about this:  We modify Grandma's shoes with a Sharpie to say "My home number is 555-1234" (or whatever for the nursing home).
I have a hard time believing that the marker idea isn't better than a shoe that will likely cost hundreds to thousands of dollars ( old people often need custom orthopedics)and a cellular/GPRS/SMS/whatever subscritpion to report the information.
Both solutions assume that the altzheimer's patient will remember to put their shoes on before they go walking...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271845</id>
	<title>I said boo-erns!</title>
	<author>swanzilla</author>
	<datestamp>1244543220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>n/t</htmltext>
<tokenext>n/t</tokentext>
<sentencetext>n/t</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271175</id>
	<title>finally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244539980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a simple way for me to find my shoes in the morning.  why didn't I think of this before?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a simple way for me to find my shoes in the morning .
why did n't I think of this before ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a simple way for me to find my shoes in the morning.
why didn't I think of this before?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28274969</id>
	<title>Good Idea</title>
	<author>MikeD83</author>
	<datestamp>1244566440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>About 7 years ago a friend and I were driving down the road on our way to a late night bite at Denny's. It was 2AM and we drove by a person that I instantly recognized... it was my 2nd Uncle who had Alzheimers. We got out of the car and followed him on foot while calling his wife. It turns out he had walked 2 miles from his house and his she didn't even know he was gone. When she got there she asked him where he was going. He said, "back to our house." He was referring to his old house which was about 20 miles away.<br> <br>
Unfortunately, he has since passed away but a device like this could have really come in handy if they knew he was missing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>About 7 years ago a friend and I were driving down the road on our way to a late night bite at Denny 's .
It was 2AM and we drove by a person that I instantly recognized... it was my 2nd Uncle who had Alzheimers .
We got out of the car and followed him on foot while calling his wife .
It turns out he had walked 2 miles from his house and his she did n't even know he was gone .
When she got there she asked him where he was going .
He said , " back to our house .
" He was referring to his old house which was about 20 miles away .
Unfortunately , he has since passed away but a device like this could have really come in handy if they knew he was missing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>About 7 years ago a friend and I were driving down the road on our way to a late night bite at Denny's.
It was 2AM and we drove by a person that I instantly recognized... it was my 2nd Uncle who had Alzheimers.
We got out of the car and followed him on foot while calling his wife.
It turns out he had walked 2 miles from his house and his she didn't even know he was gone.
When she got there she asked him where he was going.
He said, "back to our house.
" He was referring to his old house which was about 20 miles away.
Unfortunately, he has since passed away but a device like this could have really come in handy if they knew he was missing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270195</id>
	<title>As someone who works with the affected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244579100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As long as you can get them to put on and keep on their shoes, this will work great. Might work even better if implanted into their ankle bracelet... as long as they don't ask a kind stranger for a pair of scissors to cut it off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as you can get them to put on and keep on their shoes , this will work great .
Might work even better if implanted into their ankle bracelet... as long as they do n't ask a kind stranger for a pair of scissors to cut it off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as you can get them to put on and keep on their shoes, this will work great.
Might work even better if implanted into their ankle bracelet... as long as they don't ask a kind stranger for a pair of scissors to cut it off.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270657</id>
	<title>Re:This is great and all....</title>
	<author>Shooter28</author>
	<datestamp>1244580900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/may/19/gps-close-to-breakdown" title="guardian.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/may/19/gps-close-to-breakdown</a> [guardian.co.uk]

<br>
<br>
The system is too valuable to let fail, but with the current state of government spending I'm not sure this has gotten much attention.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/may/19/gps-close-to-breakdown [ guardian.co.uk ] The system is too valuable to let fail , but with the current state of government spending I 'm not sure this has gotten much attention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/may/19/gps-close-to-breakdown [guardian.co.uk]



The system is too valuable to let fail, but with the current state of government spending I'm not sure this has gotten much attention.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270279</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270101</id>
	<title>Other Uses</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244578800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would be helpful for the patient to be able to use the shoe GPS themselves. My relatives with Alzheimers often forget where they are or where they are going, or how to get there. A small screen similar to car GPS systems could use the shoe to help the patients find their way around. On a different note, where can I get one of these for my sister?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be helpful for the patient to be able to use the shoe GPS themselves .
My relatives with Alzheimers often forget where they are or where they are going , or how to get there .
A small screen similar to car GPS systems could use the shoe to help the patients find their way around .
On a different note , where can I get one of these for my sister ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be helpful for the patient to be able to use the shoe GPS themselves.
My relatives with Alzheimers often forget where they are or where they are going, or how to get there.
A small screen similar to car GPS systems could use the shoe to help the patients find their way around.
On a different note, where can I get one of these for my sister?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270279</id>
	<title>This is great and all....</title>
	<author>Shooter28</author>
	<datestamp>1244579400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...but the satellites that make up GPS are pretty outdated and falling apart.  Unless someone forks over the money for new satellites we can say goodbye to GPS in a year or two.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but the satellites that make up GPS are pretty outdated and falling apart .
Unless someone forks over the money for new satellites we can say goodbye to GPS in a year or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but the satellites that make up GPS are pretty outdated and falling apart.
Unless someone forks over the money for new satellites we can say goodbye to GPS in a year or two.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270623</id>
	<title>Re:But is it better than a marker?</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1244580780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>We modify Grandma's shoes with a Sharpie to say "My home number is 555-1234" (or whatever for the nursing home).</p></div></blockquote><p>Not much help for people searching for her is that?  Nor is it much help for those who find her since the shoe is an extremely unlikely place to look for a phone number or other form of ID.<br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; </p><blockquote><div><p>I have a hard time believing that the marker idea isn't better than a shoe that will likely cost hundreds to thousands of dollars ( old people often need custom orthopedics)and a cellular/GPRS/SMS/whatever subscritpion to report the information.</p></div></blockquote><p>If they already need orthopedic shoes, then adding a GPS to them won't increase the cost much.<br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; </p><blockquote><div><p>Both solutions assume that the altzheimer's patient will remember to put their shoes on before they go walking...</p></div></blockquote><p>Ambulatory patients are generally dressed and undressed by the caregiver.  The patient has no need to remember to put the shoes on.  (At night, when the shoes aren't being worn, a wanderer in night clothes is far more likely to be noticed by security while leaving, or wandering down the street.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We modify Grandma 's shoes with a Sharpie to say " My home number is 555-1234 " ( or whatever for the nursing home ) .Not much help for people searching for her is that ?
Nor is it much help for those who find her since the shoe is an extremely unlikely place to look for a phone number or other form of ID .
    I have a hard time believing that the marker idea is n't better than a shoe that will likely cost hundreds to thousands of dollars ( old people often need custom orthopedics ) and a cellular/GPRS/SMS/whatever subscritpion to report the information.If they already need orthopedic shoes , then adding a GPS to them wo n't increase the cost much .
    Both solutions assume that the altzheimer 's patient will remember to put their shoes on before they go walking...Ambulatory patients are generally dressed and undressed by the caregiver .
The patient has no need to remember to put the shoes on .
( At night , when the shoes are n't being worn , a wanderer in night clothes is far more likely to be noticed by security while leaving , or wandering down the street .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We modify Grandma's shoes with a Sharpie to say "My home number is 555-1234" (or whatever for the nursing home).Not much help for people searching for her is that?
Nor is it much help for those who find her since the shoe is an extremely unlikely place to look for a phone number or other form of ID.
  
  I have a hard time believing that the marker idea isn't better than a shoe that will likely cost hundreds to thousands of dollars ( old people often need custom orthopedics)and a cellular/GPRS/SMS/whatever subscritpion to report the information.If they already need orthopedic shoes, then adding a GPS to them won't increase the cost much.
  
  Both solutions assume that the altzheimer's patient will remember to put their shoes on before they go walking...Ambulatory patients are generally dressed and undressed by the caregiver.
The patient has no need to remember to put the shoes on.
(At night, when the shoes aren't being worn, a wanderer in night clothes is far more likely to be noticed by security while leaving, or wandering down the street.
)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270231</id>
	<title>Keep them from wandering away in the first place</title>
	<author>oldspewey</author>
	<datestamp>1244579220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Personally I find <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2071319/Fake-bus-stop-keeps-Alzheimers-patients-from-wandering-off.html" title="telegraph.co.uk">this</a> [telegraph.co.uk] solution to be ingenious and hilarious at the same time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally I find this [ telegraph.co.uk ] solution to be ingenious and hilarious at the same time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally I find this [telegraph.co.uk] solution to be ingenious and hilarious at the same time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28273275</id>
	<title>Re:I call bullshit</title>
	<author>Falconhell</author>
	<datestamp>1244551800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to say that the recent generation GPS I have<br>are much better at getting a lock.<br>Newer units(IPAQ 312/Leadtek BT) can get a signal in my flat (Apartment for the USAians) where my Garmin 72 and others would not. They seem to get lock a lot faster too.</p><p>I use them quite a bit to drive PDA flight software<br>for sailplanes. Using the excellent open source program XCSoar,  is better than most commercial offerings!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to say that the recent generation GPS I haveare much better at getting a lock.Newer units ( IPAQ 312/Leadtek BT ) can get a signal in my flat ( Apartment for the USAians ) where my Garmin 72 and others would not .
They seem to get lock a lot faster too.I use them quite a bit to drive PDA flight softwarefor sailplanes .
Using the excellent open source program XCSoar , is better than most commercial offerings !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to say that the recent generation GPS I haveare much better at getting a lock.Newer units(IPAQ 312/Leadtek BT) can get a signal in my flat (Apartment for the USAians) where my Garmin 72 and others would not.
They seem to get lock a lot faster too.I use them quite a bit to drive PDA flight softwarefor sailplanes.
Using the excellent open source program XCSoar,  is better than most commercial offerings!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270367</id>
	<title>Don't work inside buildings</title>
	<author>petes\_PoV</author>
	<datestamp>1244579700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So if the person wanders off in a mall, or airport, or office building these shoes are precisely useless.
<p>
Plus, of course, the obvious observation for Alzheimer's sufferers - will they remember their shoes contain GPS locators?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So if the person wanders off in a mall , or airport , or office building these shoes are precisely useless .
Plus , of course , the obvious observation for Alzheimer 's sufferers - will they remember their shoes contain GPS locators ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if the person wanders off in a mall, or airport, or office building these shoes are precisely useless.
Plus, of course, the obvious observation for Alzheimer's sufferers - will they remember their shoes contain GPS locators?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28282163</id>
	<title>Re:I call bullshit</title>
	<author>Naznarreb</author>
	<datestamp>1244658840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why do people who understand the limitations of GPS  always seem to think those limitations preclude GPS as being a solution to anything?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do people who understand the limitations of GPS always seem to think those limitations preclude GPS as being a solution to anything ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do people who understand the limitations of GPS  always seem to think those limitations preclude GPS as being a solution to anything?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270025</id>
	<title>That's how they track you</title>
	<author>oodaloop</author>
	<datestamp>1244578500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>in Nakatomi Plaza.  If you're inside when it's taken over by terrorists, make sure you take off your shoes so they can't track you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>in Nakatomi Plaza .
If you 're inside when it 's taken over by terrorists , make sure you take off your shoes so they ca n't track you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in Nakatomi Plaza.
If you're inside when it's taken over by terrorists, make sure you take off your shoes so they can't track you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271137</id>
	<title>Power?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244539800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, assuming batteries so these people aren't dragging around a long extension cord, how are you going to get someone that doesn't know where they are etc. to remember and charge the batteries every night?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , assuming batteries so these people are n't dragging around a long extension cord , how are you going to get someone that does n't know where they are etc .
to remember and charge the batteries every night ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, assuming batteries so these people aren't dragging around a long extension cord, how are you going to get someone that doesn't know where they are etc.
to remember and charge the batteries every night?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271843</id>
	<title>Re:Oh</title>
	<author>TheRealMindChild</author>
	<datestamp>1244543220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am guessing he was institutionalized. In there, that is exactly what they do... take your shoes. The floor is always cold. If you somehow manage to keep your shoes, you need to guard them with your life, because once they know you have them, they will come and take them away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am guessing he was institutionalized .
In there , that is exactly what they do... take your shoes .
The floor is always cold .
If you somehow manage to keep your shoes , you need to guard them with your life , because once they know you have them , they will come and take them away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am guessing he was institutionalized.
In there, that is exactly what they do... take your shoes.
The floor is always cold.
If you somehow manage to keep your shoes, you need to guard them with your life, because once they know you have them, they will come and take them away.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28274067</id>
	<title>Simple in theory--difficult in practice</title>
	<author>John Murdoch</author>
	<datestamp>1244558280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I did a bunch of work for a dot-com startup in the early 2000s focusing on vehicle-tracking applications. I have a daughter with Down syndrome; Downs kids tend to wander too, so we looked at this issue quite hard. The good news: the technology is pretty straightforward. The bad news: that's about the only good news.</p><p> <b>Batteries</b> <br>
A GPS chipset enables a controller embedded in the shoes (or on a device strapped to the person) to know where it is. The second half of the problem is to transmit your location to somebody else. The simplest and cheapest approach is sending the data via the cell phone system--eight years ago we were using the digital control channels of the AMPS (analog) cell system; today you'd use G3. But think of the problems you have keeping your cell phone charged--how often would you recharge the batteries in your patient's (or your child's) shoes?</p><p> <b>GPS</b> <br>
GPS is a really cool technology--but it is frequently viewed as the high-tech cure for what ails ya. It is not perfect. In particular, GPS depends upon an extremely weak signal--the GPS chipsets use DSPs to dig the signal out of the ether. GPS chipsets lose "lock" all the time. If the patient is wandering around outside in plain sight, his GPS coordinates are going to be accurate. But when the chipset loses "lock" on the satellites, tracking devices will continue to report the last known good position. This can be disastrous: the patient wanders from a nursing facility out onto the public street--and gets on a bus. Inside that nice, big aluminum box he can ride all the way downtown--and his GPS-enabled sneakers will continue to report that he's out in the nursing home parking lot.</p><p>There's a serious challenge to solving problems with technology--you also have to make sure that the people who depend upon that technology know (and act on the knowledge) that it must be maintained, or it will fail. Consider, for just a moment, how many people die of smoke inhalation every year even though they have smoke detectors in their homes. But they didn't change the batteries....</p><p> <b>There's a much smarter solution</b> <br>
As I mentioned above, I looked at this issue long and hard with a dot-com startup eight years ago. As we looked at it, we found a substantially better solution than GPS. <a href="http://www.projectlifesaver.org/" title="projectlifesaver.org">Project Lifesaver</a> [projectlifesaver.org] is a not-for-profit organization started in Chesapeake, Virginia that has developed a simple, effective solution targeted at Alzheimers patients, Downs kids, and other "wanderers." The patient has a small bracelet (like a hospital bracelet) attached to his or her wrist: once per minute the bracelet broadcasts a serial value on a digital (i.e. low-power) frequency. If/when a patient goes missing, the people responsible for the patient call the police or the sheriff's office. The cops arrive with two directional antennas tuned to the frequency: they go off in different directions, do a little bit of trigonometry, and Grandpa is back in the facility in less than ten minutes.</p><p>The Project Lifesaver solution is not perfect. They have the same battery issue that the "GPS sneakers" approach has (the GPS sneakers approach has been tried again, and again, and again). They also will only work with local law enforcement agencies--in our county the @##$\%#^^# sheriff cannot be bothered. They have had a lot of success with local service clubs funding the cost of the bracelets, and (more important) paying for and replacing the batteries. </p><p>The GPS sneakers thing sounds like cool technology. Using differential antennas and good ol' trig is much more effective. My daughter still wanders off occasionally (and we live adjacent to a state park)--I wish we could take advantage of the Project Lifesaver program here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did a bunch of work for a dot-com startup in the early 2000s focusing on vehicle-tracking applications .
I have a daughter with Down syndrome ; Downs kids tend to wander too , so we looked at this issue quite hard .
The good news : the technology is pretty straightforward .
The bad news : that 's about the only good news .
Batteries A GPS chipset enables a controller embedded in the shoes ( or on a device strapped to the person ) to know where it is .
The second half of the problem is to transmit your location to somebody else .
The simplest and cheapest approach is sending the data via the cell phone system--eight years ago we were using the digital control channels of the AMPS ( analog ) cell system ; today you 'd use G3 .
But think of the problems you have keeping your cell phone charged--how often would you recharge the batteries in your patient 's ( or your child 's ) shoes ?
GPS GPS is a really cool technology--but it is frequently viewed as the high-tech cure for what ails ya .
It is not perfect .
In particular , GPS depends upon an extremely weak signal--the GPS chipsets use DSPs to dig the signal out of the ether .
GPS chipsets lose " lock " all the time .
If the patient is wandering around outside in plain sight , his GPS coordinates are going to be accurate .
But when the chipset loses " lock " on the satellites , tracking devices will continue to report the last known good position .
This can be disastrous : the patient wanders from a nursing facility out onto the public street--and gets on a bus .
Inside that nice , big aluminum box he can ride all the way downtown--and his GPS-enabled sneakers will continue to report that he 's out in the nursing home parking lot.There 's a serious challenge to solving problems with technology--you also have to make sure that the people who depend upon that technology know ( and act on the knowledge ) that it must be maintained , or it will fail .
Consider , for just a moment , how many people die of smoke inhalation every year even though they have smoke detectors in their homes .
But they did n't change the batteries.... There 's a much smarter solution As I mentioned above , I looked at this issue long and hard with a dot-com startup eight years ago .
As we looked at it , we found a substantially better solution than GPS .
Project Lifesaver [ projectlifesaver.org ] is a not-for-profit organization started in Chesapeake , Virginia that has developed a simple , effective solution targeted at Alzheimers patients , Downs kids , and other " wanderers .
" The patient has a small bracelet ( like a hospital bracelet ) attached to his or her wrist : once per minute the bracelet broadcasts a serial value on a digital ( i.e .
low-power ) frequency .
If/when a patient goes missing , the people responsible for the patient call the police or the sheriff 's office .
The cops arrive with two directional antennas tuned to the frequency : they go off in different directions , do a little bit of trigonometry , and Grandpa is back in the facility in less than ten minutes.The Project Lifesaver solution is not perfect .
They have the same battery issue that the " GPS sneakers " approach has ( the GPS sneakers approach has been tried again , and again , and again ) .
They also will only work with local law enforcement agencies--in our county the @ # # $ \ % # ^ ^ # sheriff can not be bothered .
They have had a lot of success with local service clubs funding the cost of the bracelets , and ( more important ) paying for and replacing the batteries .
The GPS sneakers thing sounds like cool technology .
Using differential antennas and good ol ' trig is much more effective .
My daughter still wanders off occasionally ( and we live adjacent to a state park ) --I wish we could take advantage of the Project Lifesaver program here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did a bunch of work for a dot-com startup in the early 2000s focusing on vehicle-tracking applications.
I have a daughter with Down syndrome; Downs kids tend to wander too, so we looked at this issue quite hard.
The good news: the technology is pretty straightforward.
The bad news: that's about the only good news.
Batteries 
A GPS chipset enables a controller embedded in the shoes (or on a device strapped to the person) to know where it is.
The second half of the problem is to transmit your location to somebody else.
The simplest and cheapest approach is sending the data via the cell phone system--eight years ago we were using the digital control channels of the AMPS (analog) cell system; today you'd use G3.
But think of the problems you have keeping your cell phone charged--how often would you recharge the batteries in your patient's (or your child's) shoes?
GPS 
GPS is a really cool technology--but it is frequently viewed as the high-tech cure for what ails ya.
It is not perfect.
In particular, GPS depends upon an extremely weak signal--the GPS chipsets use DSPs to dig the signal out of the ether.
GPS chipsets lose "lock" all the time.
If the patient is wandering around outside in plain sight, his GPS coordinates are going to be accurate.
But when the chipset loses "lock" on the satellites, tracking devices will continue to report the last known good position.
This can be disastrous: the patient wanders from a nursing facility out onto the public street--and gets on a bus.
Inside that nice, big aluminum box he can ride all the way downtown--and his GPS-enabled sneakers will continue to report that he's out in the nursing home parking lot.There's a serious challenge to solving problems with technology--you also have to make sure that the people who depend upon that technology know (and act on the knowledge) that it must be maintained, or it will fail.
Consider, for just a moment, how many people die of smoke inhalation every year even though they have smoke detectors in their homes.
But they didn't change the batteries.... There's a much smarter solution 
As I mentioned above, I looked at this issue long and hard with a dot-com startup eight years ago.
As we looked at it, we found a substantially better solution than GPS.
Project Lifesaver [projectlifesaver.org] is a not-for-profit organization started in Chesapeake, Virginia that has developed a simple, effective solution targeted at Alzheimers patients, Downs kids, and other "wanderers.
" The patient has a small bracelet (like a hospital bracelet) attached to his or her wrist: once per minute the bracelet broadcasts a serial value on a digital (i.e.
low-power) frequency.
If/when a patient goes missing, the people responsible for the patient call the police or the sheriff's office.
The cops arrive with two directional antennas tuned to the frequency: they go off in different directions, do a little bit of trigonometry, and Grandpa is back in the facility in less than ten minutes.The Project Lifesaver solution is not perfect.
They have the same battery issue that the "GPS sneakers" approach has (the GPS sneakers approach has been tried again, and again, and again).
They also will only work with local law enforcement agencies--in our county the @##$\%#^^# sheriff cannot be bothered.
They have had a lot of success with local service clubs funding the cost of the bracelets, and (more important) paying for and replacing the batteries.
The GPS sneakers thing sounds like cool technology.
Using differential antennas and good ol' trig is much more effective.
My daughter still wanders off occasionally (and we live adjacent to a state park)--I wish we could take advantage of the Project Lifesaver program here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270667</id>
	<title>Where's grandpa?</title>
	<author>tippe</author>
	<datestamp>1244580960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>[guy #1]: Looks like grandpa has wandered off again.  Check the GeriatriFinder3000.com website to see where he's gone to.<br>[guy #2]: Yeah, sure thing.<br>[guy #2]: It looks like he's located off of 17th near bordello st.<br>[guy #2]: I don't get why his locater dot is vibrating erratically on the screen like that, though.  Strange.<br>[guy #1]: Let me see that...<br>[guy #2]: Say, isn't 17th &amp; bordello right in the middle of the brothel district?<br>[guy #1]: ?!?!!<br>[guy #2]: I'm sure it's only coincidental...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ guy # 1 ] : Looks like grandpa has wandered off again .
Check the GeriatriFinder3000.com website to see where he 's gone to .
[ guy # 2 ] : Yeah , sure thing .
[ guy # 2 ] : It looks like he 's located off of 17th near bordello st. [ guy # 2 ] : I do n't get why his locater dot is vibrating erratically on the screen like that , though .
Strange. [ guy # 1 ] : Let me see that... [ guy # 2 ] : Say , is n't 17th &amp; bordello right in the middle of the brothel district ?
[ guy # 1 ] : ? ! ? ! !
[ guy # 2 ] : I 'm sure it 's only coincidental.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[guy #1]: Looks like grandpa has wandered off again.
Check the GeriatriFinder3000.com website to see where he's gone to.
[guy #2]: Yeah, sure thing.
[guy #2]: It looks like he's located off of 17th near bordello st.[guy #2]: I don't get why his locater dot is vibrating erratically on the screen like that, though.
Strange.[guy #1]: Let me see that...[guy #2]: Say, isn't 17th &amp; bordello right in the middle of the brothel district?
[guy #1]: ?!?!!
[guy #2]: I'm sure it's only coincidental...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28269969</id>
	<title>Oh</title>
	<author>JustOK</author>
	<datestamp>1244578320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like they'll remember to put on their shoes...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like they 'll remember to put on their shoes.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like they'll remember to put on their shoes...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271211</id>
	<title>Interesting</title>
	<author>lavacano201014</author>
	<datestamp>1244540100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This brings up a great point, you see...uh...I forgot what I was going to say.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This brings up a great point , you see...uh...I forgot what I was going to say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This brings up a great point, you see...uh...I forgot what I was going to say.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271921</id>
	<title>Overstating the case.</title>
	<author>Ungrounded Lightning</author>
	<datestamp>1244543580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>...but the satellites that make up GPS are pretty outdated and falling apart. Unless someone forks over the money for new satellites we can say goodbye to GPS in a year or two.</i></p><p>That's overstating the case.</p><p>Some of the satellites are getting old and may break down before replacements are installed.  Maybe.  If they do the resolution of the system may intermittently drop or the system may intermittently fail in some areas when too few working satellites are currently in view.  But it will be a "goes out temporarily, occasionally" situation, as others come by in their orbits and things start working well again.</p><p>GPS (especially differential GPS, with ground-based correction transmitters) is currently used for a lot of important stuff - including navigating cargo ships into ports in the fog.  If/when it starts to get occasionally flakey there will be a lot of constituency pushing for it to be fixed up before more satellites go out and the flaked-out periods become more common.  Especially since some of the alternatives have been decommissioned due to GPS doing a better job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...but the satellites that make up GPS are pretty outdated and falling apart .
Unless someone forks over the money for new satellites we can say goodbye to GPS in a year or two.That 's overstating the case.Some of the satellites are getting old and may break down before replacements are installed .
Maybe. If they do the resolution of the system may intermittently drop or the system may intermittently fail in some areas when too few working satellites are currently in view .
But it will be a " goes out temporarily , occasionally " situation , as others come by in their orbits and things start working well again.GPS ( especially differential GPS , with ground-based correction transmitters ) is currently used for a lot of important stuff - including navigating cargo ships into ports in the fog .
If/when it starts to get occasionally flakey there will be a lot of constituency pushing for it to be fixed up before more satellites go out and the flaked-out periods become more common .
Especially since some of the alternatives have been decommissioned due to GPS doing a better job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but the satellites that make up GPS are pretty outdated and falling apart.
Unless someone forks over the money for new satellites we can say goodbye to GPS in a year or two.That's overstating the case.Some of the satellites are getting old and may break down before replacements are installed.
Maybe.  If they do the resolution of the system may intermittently drop or the system may intermittently fail in some areas when too few working satellites are currently in view.
But it will be a "goes out temporarily, occasionally" situation, as others come by in their orbits and things start working well again.GPS (especially differential GPS, with ground-based correction transmitters) is currently used for a lot of important stuff - including navigating cargo ships into ports in the fog.
If/when it starts to get occasionally flakey there will be a lot of constituency pushing for it to be fixed up before more satellites go out and the flaked-out periods become more common.
Especially since some of the alternatives have been decommissioned due to GPS doing a better job.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28283201</id>
	<title>Re:This is great and all....</title>
	<author>CompMD</author>
	<datestamp>1244663280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right, because the US government is going to allow its billions of dollars worth of vehicles, including hundreds of aircraft, to lose their primary navigation system.  Especially when a significant number of vehicles are deployed to a war zone.  And the thousands of commercial airliners and ships that use GPS, they'll be allowed to lose their navigation systems too.  Can't forget about general aviation either, there are hundreds of GPS equipeped GA aircraft in the sky at any second.  Do you really think that the GPS constellation will be allowed to fail?  Seriously, just think for 30 seconds before going "OMG TEH SKY IZ FALLING."  Sorry, but neither the sky (nor GPS satellites) are falling.</p><p>FD: I work for the world's largest manufacturer of GPS devices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right , because the US government is going to allow its billions of dollars worth of vehicles , including hundreds of aircraft , to lose their primary navigation system .
Especially when a significant number of vehicles are deployed to a war zone .
And the thousands of commercial airliners and ships that use GPS , they 'll be allowed to lose their navigation systems too .
Ca n't forget about general aviation either , there are hundreds of GPS equipeped GA aircraft in the sky at any second .
Do you really think that the GPS constellation will be allowed to fail ?
Seriously , just think for 30 seconds before going " OMG TEH SKY IZ FALLING .
" Sorry , but neither the sky ( nor GPS satellites ) are falling.FD : I work for the world 's largest manufacturer of GPS devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right, because the US government is going to allow its billions of dollars worth of vehicles, including hundreds of aircraft, to lose their primary navigation system.
Especially when a significant number of vehicles are deployed to a war zone.
And the thousands of commercial airliners and ships that use GPS, they'll be allowed to lose their navigation systems too.
Can't forget about general aviation either, there are hundreds of GPS equipeped GA aircraft in the sky at any second.
Do you really think that the GPS constellation will be allowed to fail?
Seriously, just think for 30 seconds before going "OMG TEH SKY IZ FALLING.
"  Sorry, but neither the sky (nor GPS satellites) are falling.FD: I work for the world's largest manufacturer of GPS devices.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270873</id>
	<title>Re:critical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244538720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think this is the first time I forwarded a slashdot article to Mother in regards to my Stepfather's Father.</p><p>I dont understand why so many people laugh and joke ok slashdot has that High School mentality to it but if you have ever known or seen anyone afflicted by alzheimers (the really serious cases) its not that funny. They break out and cant be found for days. And when they are found its not funny.</p><p>Even though the idea isnt the newest or a technical advance , in theory this is one way technology can help those with medical problems and those that need care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this is the first time I forwarded a slashdot article to Mother in regards to my Stepfather 's Father.I dont understand why so many people laugh and joke ok slashdot has that High School mentality to it but if you have ever known or seen anyone afflicted by alzheimers ( the really serious cases ) its not that funny .
They break out and cant be found for days .
And when they are found its not funny.Even though the idea isnt the newest or a technical advance , in theory this is one way technology can help those with medical problems and those that need care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this is the first time I forwarded a slashdot article to Mother in regards to my Stepfather's Father.I dont understand why so many people laugh and joke ok slashdot has that High School mentality to it but if you have ever known or seen anyone afflicted by alzheimers (the really serious cases) its not that funny.
They break out and cant be found for days.
And when they are found its not funny.Even though the idea isnt the newest or a technical advance , in theory this is one way technology can help those with medical problems and those that need care.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271271</id>
	<title>Re:Oh</title>
	<author>Scragglykat</author>
	<datestamp>1244540520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps a chip could be installed in the patient instead, as they aren't likely to leave without themselves unless they are really out of it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps a chip could be installed in the patient instead , as they are n't likely to leave without themselves unless they are really out of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps a chip could be installed in the patient instead, as they aren't likely to leave without themselves unless they are really out of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28273865</id>
	<title>Re:Oh</title>
	<author>elvesrus</author>
	<datestamp>1244556420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fun part is 2 dementia patients having a conversation. Every couple minutes someone comes back with a "Hi, how are you today". Sometimes said activity can go on for hours.</p><p>In my defense, my grandmother had dementia, and I had witnessed this first hand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fun part is 2 dementia patients having a conversation .
Every couple minutes someone comes back with a " Hi , how are you today " .
Sometimes said activity can go on for hours.In my defense , my grandmother had dementia , and I had witnessed this first hand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fun part is 2 dementia patients having a conversation.
Every couple minutes someone comes back with a "Hi, how are you today".
Sometimes said activity can go on for hours.In my defense, my grandmother had dementia, and I had witnessed this first hand.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28292833</id>
	<title>Re:More humanizing than a bell?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244731740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly right.  Less *dehumanizing* maybe.  But more humanizing?  No.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly right .
Less * dehumanizing * maybe .
But more humanizing ?
No .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly right.
Less *dehumanizing* maybe.
But more humanizing?
No.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270535</id>
	<title>what usually happens</title>
	<author>Spacepup</author>
	<datestamp>1244580360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think it ocured to them that many alzheimer and dementia patients like to strip down to their shiny birthday suits. Last I checked, shiny birthday suits don't generally include shoes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think it ocured to them that many alzheimer and dementia patients like to strip down to their shiny birthday suits .
Last I checked , shiny birthday suits do n't generally include shoes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it ocured to them that many alzheimer and dementia patients like to strip down to their shiny birthday suits.
Last I checked, shiny birthday suits don't generally include shoes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270643</id>
	<title>Hi-tech solutions to low-tech problems</title>
	<author>ReallyEvilCanine</author>
	<datestamp>1244580840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It has an occasional use but for the price of a couple of pairs of shoes (and don't forget the recurring monitoring fees/costs) there's a <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2071319/Fake-bus-stop-keeps-Alzheimers-patients-from-wandering-off.html" title="telegraph.co.uk">much easier solution</a> [telegraph.co.uk] which has been highly effective.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It has an occasional use but for the price of a couple of pairs of shoes ( and do n't forget the recurring monitoring fees/costs ) there 's a much easier solution [ telegraph.co.uk ] which has been highly effective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It has an occasional use but for the price of a couple of pairs of shoes (and don't forget the recurring monitoring fees/costs) there's a much easier solution [telegraph.co.uk] which has been highly effective.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28273879</id>
	<title>Needs more options....</title>
	<author>motherpusbucket</author>
	<datestamp>1244556600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I also want Bluetooth, IPOD connectivity, and a DVD player.  Until then, I'm sticking with my boots with the 8-track built in the left one and a compass in the right.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I also want Bluetooth , IPOD connectivity , and a DVD player .
Until then , I 'm sticking with my boots with the 8-track built in the left one and a compass in the right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also want Bluetooth, IPOD connectivity, and a DVD player.
Until then, I'm sticking with my boots with the 8-track built in the left one and a compass in the right.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28273485</id>
	<title>Re:I call bullshit</title>
	<author>MDMurphy</author>
	<datestamp>1244553420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, they always gloss over any difficult aspects:</p><p>* How do you get them to always wear the GPS shoes when leaving?<br>* How do you get them to keep the batteries charged?<br>* How do you get them to not step in puddles?<br>* GPS may work anywhere on the planet, but most communication links for sending the location information back has a much smaller usable footprint. A sat phone might work more places, but it's going to need a bigger battery and be more finicky.<br>* If it was a mobile phone / GPS combination it wouldn't be too tough to have it send SMS messages to a list of people when the geofence was crossed. More likely though is some middleman wanting to charge $50 a month to "monitor" the GPS.(What?  $50 is too much for pay to help your loved one?)</p><p>I have what looked like a thumb drive that's a EVDO modem with built in GPS.  So small and powerful is the easy part.  The logistics of power, visibitily and getting the befuddled user to always use it are the hard parts.  They never mention the hard parts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , they always gloss over any difficult aspects : * How do you get them to always wear the GPS shoes when leaving ?
* How do you get them to keep the batteries charged ?
* How do you get them to not step in puddles ?
* GPS may work anywhere on the planet , but most communication links for sending the location information back has a much smaller usable footprint .
A sat phone might work more places , but it 's going to need a bigger battery and be more finicky .
* If it was a mobile phone / GPS combination it would n't be too tough to have it send SMS messages to a list of people when the geofence was crossed .
More likely though is some middleman wanting to charge $ 50 a month to " monitor " the GPS. ( What ?
$ 50 is too much for pay to help your loved one ?
) I have what looked like a thumb drive that 's a EVDO modem with built in GPS .
So small and powerful is the easy part .
The logistics of power , visibitily and getting the befuddled user to always use it are the hard parts .
They never mention the hard parts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, they always gloss over any difficult aspects:* How do you get them to always wear the GPS shoes when leaving?
* How do you get them to keep the batteries charged?
* How do you get them to not step in puddles?
* GPS may work anywhere on the planet, but most communication links for sending the location information back has a much smaller usable footprint.
A sat phone might work more places, but it's going to need a bigger battery and be more finicky.
* If it was a mobile phone / GPS combination it wouldn't be too tough to have it send SMS messages to a list of people when the geofence was crossed.
More likely though is some middleman wanting to charge $50 a month to "monitor" the GPS.(What?
$50 is too much for pay to help your loved one?
)I have what looked like a thumb drive that's a EVDO modem with built in GPS.
So small and powerful is the easy part.
The logistics of power, visibitily and getting the befuddled user to always use it are the hard parts.
They never mention the hard parts.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270265</id>
	<title>Re:Oh</title>
	<author>timholman</author>
	<datestamp>1244579340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Like they'll remember to put on their shoes...</p></div></blockquote><p>Interesting that you should say that.  My father-in-law suffered from dementia before he died, and he was paranoid that someone was going to take his shoes from him.  He was constantly looking for them if he wasn't wearing them.  The strange thing is that his father also suffered from dementia, and had the same obsession about shoes before <i>his</i> death.</p><p>So I think the folks at GTX Corporation are on to something.  Even if people with dementia wander off, most of them are probably going to remember to put their shoes on first.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like they 'll remember to put on their shoes...Interesting that you should say that .
My father-in-law suffered from dementia before he died , and he was paranoid that someone was going to take his shoes from him .
He was constantly looking for them if he was n't wearing them .
The strange thing is that his father also suffered from dementia , and had the same obsession about shoes before his death.So I think the folks at GTX Corporation are on to something .
Even if people with dementia wander off , most of them are probably going to remember to put their shoes on first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like they'll remember to put on their shoes...Interesting that you should say that.
My father-in-law suffered from dementia before he died, and he was paranoid that someone was going to take his shoes from him.
He was constantly looking for them if he wasn't wearing them.
The strange thing is that his father also suffered from dementia, and had the same obsession about shoes before his death.So I think the folks at GTX Corporation are on to something.
Even if people with dementia wander off, most of them are probably going to remember to put their shoes on first.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28291021</id>
	<title>Re:Aren't there child trackers already?</title>
	<author>Carlos Matesanz</author>
	<datestamp>1244719560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They will try to remove it and hurt themselves in the process.
I work in a R&amp;D department focused on e/tele-care and application of technologies to disabled/elderly and this problem of tracking people who suffer dementia and/or alzheimer is not as easy as you can think. An alzheimer patient can (and will) want to scape from whereever he/she is and would know that "that thing on his/her wrist or ankle" avoids him/her from doing so even while he/she doesn't remember his/her own sons and daughters. Alzheimer is a hell of a disease.
<br>
You also might want to keep track of people with initial symptoms of dementia or people who can suffer from temporal disorientation. People who usually can develop a normal life so you don't want to stigmatize them with visible apparatus. There are psicologycal issues you have to keep in mind.<br>

That been said i'd be more than happy reading any ideas you might have for a tracking system that works (we've already contact gtxcorp for a trial of their product).

Cheers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They will try to remove it and hurt themselves in the process .
I work in a R&amp;D department focused on e/tele-care and application of technologies to disabled/elderly and this problem of tracking people who suffer dementia and/or alzheimer is not as easy as you can think .
An alzheimer patient can ( and will ) want to scape from whereever he/she is and would know that " that thing on his/her wrist or ankle " avoids him/her from doing so even while he/she does n't remember his/her own sons and daughters .
Alzheimer is a hell of a disease .
You also might want to keep track of people with initial symptoms of dementia or people who can suffer from temporal disorientation .
People who usually can develop a normal life so you do n't want to stigmatize them with visible apparatus .
There are psicologycal issues you have to keep in mind .
That been said i 'd be more than happy reading any ideas you might have for a tracking system that works ( we 've already contact gtxcorp for a trial of their product ) .
Cheers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They will try to remove it and hurt themselves in the process.
I work in a R&amp;D department focused on e/tele-care and application of technologies to disabled/elderly and this problem of tracking people who suffer dementia and/or alzheimer is not as easy as you can think.
An alzheimer patient can (and will) want to scape from whereever he/she is and would know that "that thing on his/her wrist or ankle" avoids him/her from doing so even while he/she doesn't remember his/her own sons and daughters.
Alzheimer is a hell of a disease.
You also might want to keep track of people with initial symptoms of dementia or people who can suffer from temporal disorientation.
People who usually can develop a normal life so you don't want to stigmatize them with visible apparatus.
There are psicologycal issues you have to keep in mind.
That been said i'd be more than happy reading any ideas you might have for a tracking system that works (we've already contact gtxcorp for a trial of their product).
Cheers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270871</id>
	<title>Aren't there child trackers already?</title>
	<author>John Jorsett</author>
	<datestamp>1244538720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Aren't there GPS child trackers already available? If you were worried about an Alzheimer's patient, couldn't you just strap one of those to the person's wrist? I presume you can get them with bands that prevent easy removal, or could retrofit one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are n't there GPS child trackers already available ?
If you were worried about an Alzheimer 's patient , could n't you just strap one of those to the person 's wrist ?
I presume you can get them with bands that prevent easy removal , or could retrofit one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aren't there GPS child trackers already available?
If you were worried about an Alzheimer's patient, couldn't you just strap one of those to the person's wrist?
I presume you can get them with bands that prevent easy removal, or could retrofit one.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270849</id>
	<title>Re:I call bullshit</title>
	<author>avandesande</author>
	<datestamp>1244538600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who said this was infallible?<br>Anyone with a little commence sense realizes the shoes would be helpful in many cases, like during a trip to the zoo or to visit their family.</p><p>It also makes is more reasonable for a family to care for their relative than to send them to a nursing home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who said this was infallible ? Anyone with a little commence sense realizes the shoes would be helpful in many cases , like during a trip to the zoo or to visit their family.It also makes is more reasonable for a family to care for their relative than to send them to a nursing home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who said this was infallible?Anyone with a little commence sense realizes the shoes would be helpful in many cases, like during a trip to the zoo or to visit their family.It also makes is more reasonable for a family to care for their relative than to send them to a nursing home.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270693</id>
	<title>I'll be damned first.</title>
	<author>ITIL Prince</author>
	<datestamp>1244581080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is a huge legal liability and invasion of privacy. You would have to keep the presence of the GPS feature hidden from the patient. Alzheimer's patients that do run away often experience paranoia. If they knew about the tracking device, they'd deliberately take off the shoes. They're not stupid, they're brain damaged. My mother was quite crafty for a while there, and when she got mean-spirited, you really needed to watch your step. If she had run, we'd probably not have found her in time.

So, to be effective, this has to be involuntary. My mother is dead now, but there is no way I would ever "tag" her like this. What an indignity to have Alzheimer's in the first place. I'll be damned if I'm going to heap on another one with a wildlife tracking mechanism. We should just say no, with our lack of dollars for these jerks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a huge legal liability and invasion of privacy .
You would have to keep the presence of the GPS feature hidden from the patient .
Alzheimer 's patients that do run away often experience paranoia .
If they knew about the tracking device , they 'd deliberately take off the shoes .
They 're not stupid , they 're brain damaged .
My mother was quite crafty for a while there , and when she got mean-spirited , you really needed to watch your step .
If she had run , we 'd probably not have found her in time .
So , to be effective , this has to be involuntary .
My mother is dead now , but there is no way I would ever " tag " her like this .
What an indignity to have Alzheimer 's in the first place .
I 'll be damned if I 'm going to heap on another one with a wildlife tracking mechanism .
We should just say no , with our lack of dollars for these jerks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a huge legal liability and invasion of privacy.
You would have to keep the presence of the GPS feature hidden from the patient.
Alzheimer's patients that do run away often experience paranoia.
If they knew about the tracking device, they'd deliberately take off the shoes.
They're not stupid, they're brain damaged.
My mother was quite crafty for a while there, and when she got mean-spirited, you really needed to watch your step.
If she had run, we'd probably not have found her in time.
So, to be effective, this has to be involuntary.
My mother is dead now, but there is no way I would ever "tag" her like this.
What an indignity to have Alzheimer's in the first place.
I'll be damned if I'm going to heap on another one with a wildlife tracking mechanism.
We should just say no, with our lack of dollars for these jerks.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270143</id>
	<title>If the shoe fits, wear it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244578980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This technology will go much farther than intended...</p><p>Parents who want to track "problem" children<br>Husband/Wife who wants to know where you really were last night<br>And for the random person who really wants to know how lost he got himself...</p><p>This technology won't become ubiquitous, but it'll certainly be fun to abuse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This technology will go much farther than intended...Parents who want to track " problem " childrenHusband/Wife who wants to know where you really were last nightAnd for the random person who really wants to know how lost he got himself...This technology wo n't become ubiquitous , but it 'll certainly be fun to abuse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This technology will go much farther than intended...Parents who want to track "problem" childrenHusband/Wife who wants to know where you really were last nightAnd for the random person who really wants to know how lost he got himself...This technology won't become ubiquitous, but it'll certainly be fun to abuse.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271861</id>
	<title>Re:Oh</title>
	<author>K. S. Kyosuke</author>
	<datestamp>1244543280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So I think the folks at GTX Corporation are on to something. Even if people with dementia wander off, most of them are probably going to remember to put their shoes on first.</p></div></blockquote><p>
If they are paranoid, won't they notice that their shoes have suddenly started blinking and beeping and that they have grown antennas?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So I think the folks at GTX Corporation are on to something .
Even if people with dementia wander off , most of them are probably going to remember to put their shoes on first .
If they are paranoid , wo n't they notice that their shoes have suddenly started blinking and beeping and that they have grown antennas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I think the folks at GTX Corporation are on to something.
Even if people with dementia wander off, most of them are probably going to remember to put their shoes on first.
If they are paranoid, won't they notice that their shoes have suddenly started blinking and beeping and that they have grown antennas?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270557</id>
	<title>will it work?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244580420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not sure if it would work.  A lot of alzheimer patients so their wandering barefooted.   They forget they need shoes!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure if it would work .
A lot of alzheimer patients so their wandering barefooted .
They forget they need shoes ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure if it would work.
A lot of alzheimer patients so their wandering barefooted.
They forget they need shoes!!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270973</id>
	<title>Re:Other Uses</title>
	<author>Critical Facilities</author>
	<datestamp>1244539140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You could set it up to activate when they click their heels 3 times.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could set it up to activate when they click their heels 3 times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could set it up to activate when they click their heels 3 times.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270763</id>
	<title>Oblig. Red Dwarf Quote</title>
	<author>Altus</author>
	<datestamp>1244538240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lister: Sometimes, I think it's cruel giving machines a personality. My mate Petersen once bought a pair of shoes with Artificial Intelligence. 'Smart Shoes' they were called. It was a neat idea. No matter how blind drunk you were, they could always get you home. But he got rattled one night in Oslo and woke up the next morning in Burma. You see, his shoes got bored going from his local to his flat. They wanted to see the world, you know. He had a hell of a job getting rid of them. No matter who he sold them to, they'd show up again the next day. He tried to shut them out, but they just kicked the door down.</p><p>Rimmer: Is this true?<br>Lister: Yeah. The last thing I heard, they sort of... robbed a car and drove it into a canal. They couldn't steer, you see.</p><p>Rimmer: Really?</p><p>Lister: Yeah. Petersen was really, really blown away about it. He went to see a priest. The priest told him... he said it was alright and all that, when shoes are happy that they'd get into heaven. You see, it turns out shoes have 'soles'.</p><p>Rimmer: Ah, what a sad story. Wait a minute.<br>[Thinks for a minute]<br>Rimmer: How did they open the car door?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lister : Sometimes , I think it 's cruel giving machines a personality .
My mate Petersen once bought a pair of shoes with Artificial Intelligence .
'Smart Shoes ' they were called .
It was a neat idea .
No matter how blind drunk you were , they could always get you home .
But he got rattled one night in Oslo and woke up the next morning in Burma .
You see , his shoes got bored going from his local to his flat .
They wanted to see the world , you know .
He had a hell of a job getting rid of them .
No matter who he sold them to , they 'd show up again the next day .
He tried to shut them out , but they just kicked the door down.Rimmer : Is this true ? Lister : Yeah .
The last thing I heard , they sort of... robbed a car and drove it into a canal .
They could n't steer , you see.Rimmer : Really ? Lister : Yeah .
Petersen was really , really blown away about it .
He went to see a priest .
The priest told him... he said it was alright and all that , when shoes are happy that they 'd get into heaven .
You see , it turns out shoes have 'soles'.Rimmer : Ah , what a sad story .
Wait a minute .
[ Thinks for a minute ] Rimmer : How did they open the car door ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lister: Sometimes, I think it's cruel giving machines a personality.
My mate Petersen once bought a pair of shoes with Artificial Intelligence.
'Smart Shoes' they were called.
It was a neat idea.
No matter how blind drunk you were, they could always get you home.
But he got rattled one night in Oslo and woke up the next morning in Burma.
You see, his shoes got bored going from his local to his flat.
They wanted to see the world, you know.
He had a hell of a job getting rid of them.
No matter who he sold them to, they'd show up again the next day.
He tried to shut them out, but they just kicked the door down.Rimmer: Is this true?Lister: Yeah.
The last thing I heard, they sort of... robbed a car and drove it into a canal.
They couldn't steer, you see.Rimmer: Really?Lister: Yeah.
Petersen was really, really blown away about it.
He went to see a priest.
The priest told him... he said it was alright and all that, when shoes are happy that they'd get into heaven.
You see, it turns out shoes have 'soles'.Rimmer: Ah, what a sad story.
Wait a minute.
[Thinks for a minute]Rimmer: How did they open the car door?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28271263</id>
	<title>More humanizing than a bell?</title>
	<author>bzzfzz</author>
	<datestamp>1244540460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Less obvious than a bell though probably not "more humanizing."  The loss of liberties has historically started with the powerless.  Prisoners, the sick, the mentally ill.  Then the military and the working class people.  You're next.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Less obvious than a bell though probably not " more humanizing .
" The loss of liberties has historically started with the powerless .
Prisoners , the sick , the mentally ill. Then the military and the working class people .
You 're next .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Less obvious than a bell though probably not "more humanizing.
"  The loss of liberties has historically started with the powerless.
Prisoners, the sick, the mentally ill.  Then the military and the working class people.
You're next.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270099</id>
	<title>critical</title>
	<author>nimbius</author>
	<datestamp>1244578800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>wandering incident?!  who was the marketing genius that made it sound like a particle physics event??</htmltext>
<tokenext>wandering incident ? !
who was the marketing genius that made it sound like a particle physics event ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wandering incident?!
who was the marketing genius that made it sound like a particle physics event?
?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_09_1626223.28270585</id>
	<title>Re:critical</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1244580540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>wandering incident?! who was the marketing genius that made it sound like a particle physics event??</p></div><p>I don't think anyone is marketing "wandering incidents."  Also, seeing as alzheimers predates particle physics, and is probably more commonly discussed than particle physics, I'd have to ask instead what idiot physicist made a particle physics event sound like an alzheimers patient wandering off.</p><p>(If you were going for humor, you appear to have had your own wandering incident)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>wandering incident ? !
who was the marketing genius that made it sound like a particle physics event ?
? I do n't think anyone is marketing " wandering incidents .
" Also , seeing as alzheimers predates particle physics , and is probably more commonly discussed than particle physics , I 'd have to ask instead what idiot physicist made a particle physics event sound like an alzheimers patient wandering off .
( If you were going for humor , you appear to have had your own wandering incident )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wandering incident?!
who was the marketing genius that made it sound like a particle physics event?
?I don't think anyone is marketing "wandering incidents.
"  Also, seeing as alzheimers predates particle physics, and is probably more commonly discussed than particle physics, I'd have to ask instead what idiot physicist made a particle physics event sound like an alzheimers patient wandering off.
(If you were going for humor, you appear to have had your own wandering incident)
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