<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_08_2342241</id>
	<title>20th Anniversary of the Dawn of Dot-Com</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1244461500000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.templetons.com/brad/" rel="nofollow">btempleton</a> writes <i>"It was 20 years ago today when I posted to USENET the public launch of ClariNet, my electronic newspaper service delivered over the Internet. By finding a way around the <a href="http://www.nsf.gov/about/history/nsf0050/internet/launch.htm">NSFNet acceptable use policy</a>, ClariNet was the first business founded to use the Internet as its platform for business, and the era of the 'dot-com' had begun. For the anniversary I have written a <a href="http://www.templetons.com/brad/clarinet-history.html">history of the founding of ClariNet and early internet business</a>, which outlines how it all came down. Readers may also enjoy the included anecdote about what I term 'M5' reliability, where the news system was so robust that, like the M5 computer on Star Trek, even those authorized to do so were <a href="http://www.templetons.com/brad/clarinet-history.html#m5">unable to shut it off</a>; and a story of <a href="http://www.templetons.com/brad/clarinet-history.html#ebook">the earliest large SF eBook effort</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>btempleton writes " It was 20 years ago today when I posted to USENET the public launch of ClariNet , my electronic newspaper service delivered over the Internet .
By finding a way around the NSFNet acceptable use policy , ClariNet was the first business founded to use the Internet as its platform for business , and the era of the 'dot-com ' had begun .
For the anniversary I have written a history of the founding of ClariNet and early internet business , which outlines how it all came down .
Readers may also enjoy the included anecdote about what I term 'M5 ' reliability , where the news system was so robust that , like the M5 computer on Star Trek , even those authorized to do so were unable to shut it off ; and a story of the earliest large SF eBook effort .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>btempleton writes "It was 20 years ago today when I posted to USENET the public launch of ClariNet, my electronic newspaper service delivered over the Internet.
By finding a way around the NSFNet acceptable use policy, ClariNet was the first business founded to use the Internet as its platform for business, and the era of the 'dot-com' had begun.
For the anniversary I have written a history of the founding of ClariNet and early internet business, which outlines how it all came down.
Readers may also enjoy the included anecdote about what I term 'M5' reliability, where the news system was so robust that, like the M5 computer on Star Trek, even those authorized to do so were unable to shut it off; and a story of the earliest large SF eBook effort.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28259011</id>
	<title>First, Brad? What about J. T. Toys?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244466600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seems to me I got a catalog from JT Toys (now JT's Stockroom at www.stockroom.com) in 1988.

Sex is always first.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems to me I got a catalog from JT Toys ( now JT 's Stockroom at www.stockroom.com ) in 1988 .
Sex is always first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems to me I got a catalog from JT Toys (now JT's Stockroom at www.stockroom.com) in 1988.
Sex is always first.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28267079</id>
	<title>And here I thought that was Canter &amp; Siegel</title>
	<author>whitroth</author>
	<datestamp>1244567580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Before the Web existed, and I love his brag that he "got around" Fair Use... as though that were something to brag about.</p><p>Meanwhile, I thought the real opening gun was Canter &amp; Siegel's Green Card spam of 1994 </p><p>"Oh, no, there's no community here, this is just fallow ground that we can do whatever we want, wherever we want to do it".</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; mark</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Before the Web existed , and I love his brag that he " got around " Fair Use... as though that were something to brag about.Meanwhile , I thought the real opening gun was Canter &amp; Siegel 's Green Card spam of 1994 " Oh , no , there 's no community here , this is just fallow ground that we can do whatever we want , wherever we want to do it " .
                  mark</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before the Web existed, and I love his brag that he "got around" Fair Use... as though that were something to brag about.Meanwhile, I thought the real opening gun was Canter &amp; Siegel's Green Card spam of 1994 "Oh, no, there's no community here, this is just fallow ground that we can do whatever we want, wherever we want to do it".
                  mark</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28259147</id>
	<title>andsomethingofvaluewaslost</title>
	<author>PaganRitual</author>
	<datestamp>1244467560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, it was nice while it lasted.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , it was nice while it lasted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, it was nice while it lasted.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28270859</id>
	<title>Re:Tomatoes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244538660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you'll go all the way to the source, you'll notice it's tagged with 'Humor'.  So, it's BS, who cares.

<a href="http://www.americanbuddhist.net/dna-scientists-thc-gene-easily-transferred-tomato-cucumber-and-other-common-garden-plants" title="americanbuddhist.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanbuddhist.net/dna-scientists-thc-gene-easily-transferred-tomato-cucumber-and-other-common-garden-plants</a> [americanbuddhist.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 'll go all the way to the source , you 'll notice it 's tagged with 'Humor' .
So , it 's BS , who cares .
http : //www.americanbuddhist.net/dna-scientists-thc-gene-easily-transferred-tomato-cucumber-and-other-common-garden-plants [ americanbuddhist.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you'll go all the way to the source, you'll notice it's tagged with 'Humor'.
So, it's BS, who cares.
http://www.americanbuddhist.net/dna-scientists-thc-gene-easily-transferred-tomato-cucumber-and-other-common-garden-plants [americanbuddhist.net]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28259043</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258845</id>
	<title>so you're the one, huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244465460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> By finding a way around the NSFNet acceptable use policy, ClariNet was the first business founded to use the Internet as its platform for business, and the era of the 'dot-com' had begun.</p></div></blockquote><p>Oh, so *you're* the asshole who started the commercialization, by shady interpretation of a use policy you agreed to, no less.<br> <br>I bet next you'll tell us that you're also the asshole who sent the first spam.<br> <br>jk... mostly.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>By finding a way around the NSFNet acceptable use policy , ClariNet was the first business founded to use the Internet as its platform for business , and the era of the 'dot-com ' had begun.Oh , so * you 're * the asshole who started the commercialization , by shady interpretation of a use policy you agreed to , no less .
I bet next you 'll tell us that you 're also the asshole who sent the first spam .
jk... mostly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> By finding a way around the NSFNet acceptable use policy, ClariNet was the first business founded to use the Internet as its platform for business, and the era of the 'dot-com' had begun.Oh, so *you're* the asshole who started the commercialization, by shady interpretation of a use policy you agreed to, no less.
I bet next you'll tell us that you're also the asshole who sent the first spam.
jk... mostly.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258859</id>
	<title>Giant Douchebag</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244465580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, yes you are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , yes you are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, yes you are.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28260759</id>
	<title>Re:let's see how long 'first' lasts...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244476380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>just like all the other non-first first posts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>just like all the other non-first first posts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just like all the other non-first first posts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258891</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28260293</id>
	<title>Always a pleasue to visit Brad's site</title>
	<author>HKcastaway</author>
	<datestamp>1244474220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The history, t his blog.  Well worthwhile site. I find looking at his panoramic photos very relaxing.</p><p>Yeahh I know my post is not relevant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The history , t his blog .
Well worthwhile site .
I find looking at his panoramic photos very relaxing.Yeahh I know my post is not relevant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The history, t his blog.
Well worthwhile site.
I find looking at his panoramic photos very relaxing.Yeahh I know my post is not relevant.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28262073</id>
	<title>Ah, 1989, I remember Clarinet</title>
	<author>ljhiller</author>
	<datestamp>1244488200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>1989 was also the year I got out of the IBM360 / Bitnet ghetto and got a real unix account with real IP/TCP connections.

Clarinet. The was always the server I kept seeing references to, but never found out what was there because they expected me to pay to look.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1989 was also the year I got out of the IBM360 / Bitnet ghetto and got a real unix account with real IP/TCP connections .
Clarinet. The was always the server I kept seeing references to , but never found out what was there because they expected me to pay to look .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1989 was also the year I got out of the IBM360 / Bitnet ghetto and got a real unix account with real IP/TCP connections.
Clarinet. The was always the server I kept seeing references to, but never found out what was there because they expected me to pay to look.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28260065</id>
	<title>Tone of post and website...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244473080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>....utterly self-aggrandizing in a way that's pretty close to pathological (I'd want a bit more face time to see if the author is this insufferable in person;) far more useful as a psychological study than a technological insight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>....utterly self-aggrandizing in a way that 's pretty close to pathological ( I 'd want a bit more face time to see if the author is this insufferable in person ; ) far more useful as a psychological study than a technological insight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>....utterly self-aggrandizing in a way that's pretty close to pathological (I'd want a bit more face time to see if the author is this insufferable in person;) far more useful as a psychological study than a technological insight.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28263449</id>
	<title>This should have come from someone else</title>
	<author>ActusReus</author>
	<datestamp>1244548140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that claiming a "dot-com" <b> <i>four years</i> </b> prior to the initial release of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic\_(web\_browser)" title="wikipedia.org">NCSA Mosaic</a> [wikipedia.org] is absurd.  If we're going to contort definitions THAT far, then the first dot-com was probably on Prodigy or Compuserve or maybe even BBS'es in the 1970's.</p><p>While I respect and appreciate this post contributor's involvement in the EFF... this particular conversation seems like an awfully self-serving attempt to shoehorn "inventor of the dot-com" onto a resume, a la Al Gore and his infamous "creation of the Internet".  Templeton COULD have a claim to this title, but it would feel far more legitimate if he had someone else making the "nomination" as opposed to all the extremely vigorous self-promotion.</p><p>There's a reason why Google's search-ranking algorithm works the way it does... because your legitimacy as a public figure depends on how many OTHER people are talking about you, rather than how many words you spew yourself.  If you want to move to the top of the heap, you need to use a link farm (i.e. having some other people write stuff like this to Slashdot on your behalf).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that claiming a " dot-com " four years prior to the initial release of NCSA Mosaic [ wikipedia.org ] is absurd .
If we 're going to contort definitions THAT far , then the first dot-com was probably on Prodigy or Compuserve or maybe even BBS'es in the 1970 's.While I respect and appreciate this post contributor 's involvement in the EFF... this particular conversation seems like an awfully self-serving attempt to shoehorn " inventor of the dot-com " onto a resume , a la Al Gore and his infamous " creation of the Internet " .
Templeton COULD have a claim to this title , but it would feel far more legitimate if he had someone else making the " nomination " as opposed to all the extremely vigorous self-promotion.There 's a reason why Google 's search-ranking algorithm works the way it does... because your legitimacy as a public figure depends on how many OTHER people are talking about you , rather than how many words you spew yourself .
If you want to move to the top of the heap , you need to use a link farm ( i.e .
having some other people write stuff like this to Slashdot on your behalf ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that claiming a "dot-com"  four years  prior to the initial release of NCSA Mosaic [wikipedia.org] is absurd.
If we're going to contort definitions THAT far, then the first dot-com was probably on Prodigy or Compuserve or maybe even BBS'es in the 1970's.While I respect and appreciate this post contributor's involvement in the EFF... this particular conversation seems like an awfully self-serving attempt to shoehorn "inventor of the dot-com" onto a resume, a la Al Gore and his infamous "creation of the Internet".
Templeton COULD have a claim to this title, but it would feel far more legitimate if he had someone else making the "nomination" as opposed to all the extremely vigorous self-promotion.There's a reason why Google's search-ranking algorithm works the way it does... because your legitimacy as a public figure depends on how many OTHER people are talking about you, rather than how many words you spew yourself.
If you want to move to the top of the heap, you need to use a link farm (i.e.
having some other people write stuff like this to Slashdot on your behalf).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258989</id>
	<title>Self-promotional much?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244466420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about someone other than Brad himself telling us this is the first dot-com ever?  Or would that ruin things by proving that he's fudging the details?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about someone other than Brad himself telling us this is the first dot-com ever ?
Or would that ruin things by proving that he 's fudging the details ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about someone other than Brad himself telling us this is the first dot-com ever?
Or would that ruin things by proving that he's fudging the details?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28259093</id>
	<title>Re:So we should blame you?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244467140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And <b> <i>I</i></b>  invented the mortgage-ad-with-dancing people!  Patent pending, patent pending, patent pending!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I invented the mortgage-ad-with-dancing people !
Patent pending , patent pending , patent pending !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And  I  invented the mortgage-ad-with-dancing people!
Patent pending, patent pending, patent pending!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258913</id>
	<title>I remember ClariNet</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1244465940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I remember ClariNet.  I remember thinking, "why in God's name should I pay for something that I can get for free?"
</p><p>
But it turns out, there are people who will do that, and the rest is history.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember ClariNet .
I remember thinking , " why in God 's name should I pay for something that I can get for free ?
" But it turns out , there are people who will do that , and the rest is history .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I remember ClariNet.
I remember thinking, "why in God's name should I pay for something that I can get for free?
"

But it turns out, there are people who will do that, and the rest is history.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28259369</id>
	<title>Re:So we should blame you?</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1244468880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, most of us owe our jobs to the commercialization of the Internet!</p><p>I remember using ClariNet to read Dilbert before it was widely syndicated. That was back when it was still funny.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , most of us owe our jobs to the commercialization of the Internet ! I remember using ClariNet to read Dilbert before it was widely syndicated .
That was back when it was still funny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, most of us owe our jobs to the commercialization of the Internet!I remember using ClariNet to read Dilbert before it was widely syndicated.
That was back when it was still funny.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28259671</id>
	<title>NSF</title>
	<author>Korbeau</author>
	<datestamp>1244470560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... so these Non-Suitable-For pictures and videos started in the 80ies!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... so these Non-Suitable-For pictures and videos started in the 80ies !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... so these Non-Suitable-For pictures and videos started in the 80ies!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258903</id>
	<title>Tooting One's Own Horn</title>
	<author>courtarro</author>
	<datestamp>1244465880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This story is all well and interesting, but I imagine it's impossible to prove that you're the first business to make money exclusively over the internet. You might be "one of the first", but to go all the way to <i>the birth of my business represents the birth of dot-com</i> is a bit vain, no?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This story is all well and interesting , but I imagine it 's impossible to prove that you 're the first business to make money exclusively over the internet .
You might be " one of the first " , but to go all the way to the birth of my business represents the birth of dot-com is a bit vain , no ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This story is all well and interesting, but I imagine it's impossible to prove that you're the first business to make money exclusively over the internet.
You might be "one of the first", but to go all the way to the birth of my business represents the birth of dot-com is a bit vain, no?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28259133</id>
	<title>Decline of Usenet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244467440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh, so I can add you to my list?<ul>
<li> 1989: ClariNet published</li>
<li> 1991: First pornographic video binary [estimated]</li>
<li> 1993: Eternal September</li>
<li> 1994: Canter &amp; Siegal</li>
<li> 1995: DejaNews</li></ul><p>

Damn you.  Damn you all.  I miss usenet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , so I can add you to my list ?
1989 : ClariNet published 1991 : First pornographic video binary [ estimated ] 1993 : Eternal September 1994 : Canter &amp; Siegal 1995 : DejaNews Damn you .
Damn you all .
I miss usenet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, so I can add you to my list?
1989: ClariNet published
 1991: First pornographic video binary [estimated]
 1993: Eternal September
 1994: Canter &amp; Siegal
 1995: DejaNews

Damn you.
Damn you all.
I miss usenet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258987</id>
	<title>Yeah, yeah...</title>
	<author>NervousNerd</author>
	<datestamp>1244466420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>He's lying, of course. Look at his UID (149110), for crying out loud!</htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's lying , of course .
Look at his UID ( 149110 ) , for crying out loud !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's lying, of course.
Look at his UID (149110), for crying out loud!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258841</id>
	<title>Sgt. Salt</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1244465460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"It was 20 years ago today..."</p><p>Beatle plagiarist! I'm tellin' the RIAA!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It was 20 years ago today... " Beatle plagiarist !
I 'm tellin ' the RIAA !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It was 20 years ago today..."Beatle plagiarist!
I'm tellin' the RIAA!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28261873</id>
	<title>Re:let's see how long 'first' lasts...</title>
	<author>bughunter</author>
	<datestamp>1244485860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good point.</p><p>For instance, when was the first *.com domain registered?  Wouldn't <i>that</i> be the "dawn of dot-com?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good point.For instance , when was the first * .com domain registered ?
Would n't that be the " dawn of dot-com ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good point.For instance, when was the first *.com domain registered?
Wouldn't that be the "dawn of dot-com?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258891</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28260269</id>
	<title>Some things never change...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244474160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good to see some things are eternally consistent.  Brad is still trying to convince anyone who will listen he's The Most Important Person On The Internet.  As it was in the ancient days, so it is today.</p><p>I remember ClariNet (having been on the net for a couple of years).  I remember the bullshit megalomania.  I remember the bright flameout.  I remember all the subsequent, desperate attempts to to portray the whole thing as vastly more important than it was.</p><p>If *everyone* who comes after you does it better than you do, maybe you really aren't that innovative.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good to see some things are eternally consistent .
Brad is still trying to convince anyone who will listen he 's The Most Important Person On The Internet .
As it was in the ancient days , so it is today.I remember ClariNet ( having been on the net for a couple of years ) .
I remember the bullshit megalomania .
I remember the bright flameout .
I remember all the subsequent , desperate attempts to to portray the whole thing as vastly more important than it was.If * everyone * who comes after you does it better than you do , maybe you really are n't that innovative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good to see some things are eternally consistent.
Brad is still trying to convince anyone who will listen he's The Most Important Person On The Internet.
As it was in the ancient days, so it is today.I remember ClariNet (having been on the net for a couple of years).
I remember the bullshit megalomania.
I remember the bright flameout.
I remember all the subsequent, desperate attempts to to portray the whole thing as vastly more important than it was.If *everyone* who comes after you does it better than you do, maybe you really aren't that innovative.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258891</id>
	<title>let's see how long 'first' lasts...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244465820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>the best way I know to find out you were not first at something is to post on slashdot that you were.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the best way I know to find out you were not first at something is to post on slashdot that you were .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the best way I know to find out you were not first at something is to post on slashdot that you were.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28260335</id>
	<title>Re:Decline of Usenet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244474400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Damn you. Damn you all. I miss usenet.</p></div></blockquote><p>
2009.  Some fucktard posts a 180-gigabyte<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.rar full of of MP3z... in <em>one day</em>. 1800-segments-of-100MB-each, 500,000+ posts.  Unless you want all 5,000 albums, the entire download is a waste of bits.
</p><p>
Eternal September isn't over.  Not by a long shot.
</p><p>
I've seen some dumb shit, but today takes the cake.  The Green Card Lawyers were tame by comparison.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn you .
Damn you all .
I miss usenet .
2009. Some fucktard posts a 180-gigabyte .rar full of of MP3z... in one day .
1800-segments-of-100MB-each , 500,000 + posts .
Unless you want all 5,000 albums , the entire download is a waste of bits .
Eternal September is n't over .
Not by a long shot .
I 've seen some dumb shit , but today takes the cake .
The Green Card Lawyers were tame by comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn you.
Damn you all.
I miss usenet.
2009.  Some fucktard posts a 180-gigabyte .rar full of of MP3z... in one day.
1800-segments-of-100MB-each, 500,000+ posts.
Unless you want all 5,000 albums, the entire download is a waste of bits.
Eternal September isn't over.
Not by a long shot.
I've seen some dumb shit, but today takes the cake.
The Green Card Lawyers were tame by comparison.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28259133</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28259043</id>
	<title>Re:Tomatoes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244466840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dunno what happened to "Company Produces THC Tomatoes".  You're not alone, and you're not dreaming.  I saw it in the RSS feed for that story.  There's nothing in the firehose or google news search about it.</p><p>Perhaps someone did some time travel and erased the existence of said tomatoes so that all knowledge about them were pulled?</p><p>Interestingly, I can find some results on Bing - showing that they're more relevant than Google in this case.</p><p><a href="http://thecrit.com/2009/06/03/company-makes-any-plant-produce-thc-and-the-tomatoes-are-especially-yummy/" title="thecrit.com" rel="nofollow">http://thecrit.com/2009/06/03/company-makes-any-plant-produce-thc-and-the-tomatoes-are-especially-yummy/</a> [thecrit.com]<br><a href="http://americanbuddhist.net/dna-scientists-thc-gene-easily-transferred-tomato-cucumber-and-other-common-garden-plants" title="americanbuddhist.net" rel="nofollow">http://americanbuddhist.net/dna-scientists-thc-gene-easily-transferred-tomato-cucumber-and-other-common-garden-plants</a> [americanbuddhist.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno what happened to " Company Produces THC Tomatoes " .
You 're not alone , and you 're not dreaming .
I saw it in the RSS feed for that story .
There 's nothing in the firehose or google news search about it.Perhaps someone did some time travel and erased the existence of said tomatoes so that all knowledge about them were pulled ? Interestingly , I can find some results on Bing - showing that they 're more relevant than Google in this case.http : //thecrit.com/2009/06/03/company-makes-any-plant-produce-thc-and-the-tomatoes-are-especially-yummy/ [ thecrit.com ] http : //americanbuddhist.net/dna-scientists-thc-gene-easily-transferred-tomato-cucumber-and-other-common-garden-plants [ americanbuddhist.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno what happened to "Company Produces THC Tomatoes".
You're not alone, and you're not dreaming.
I saw it in the RSS feed for that story.
There's nothing in the firehose or google news search about it.Perhaps someone did some time travel and erased the existence of said tomatoes so that all knowledge about them were pulled?Interestingly, I can find some results on Bing - showing that they're more relevant than Google in this case.http://thecrit.com/2009/06/03/company-makes-any-plant-produce-thc-and-the-tomatoes-are-especially-yummy/ [thecrit.com]http://americanbuddhist.net/dna-scientists-thc-gene-easily-transferred-tomato-cucumber-and-other-common-garden-plants [americanbuddhist.net]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258919</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258919</id>
	<title>Tomatoes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244465940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, what happened to the story about the THC-laced tomatoes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , what happened to the story about the THC-laced tomatoes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, what happened to the story about the THC-laced tomatoes?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28262427</id>
	<title>Re:M5 was not robust</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1244578680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>M5 suffered from the same megalomania and psychosis that its creator, Dr. Richard Daystrom, suffered from.</p></div><p>Maybe my monitor isn't correctly calibrated (or the beer from yesterday isn't correctly decalibrated), but I read that as "MS suffered<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."</p><p>"I'm gonna' fucking kill<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...", etc.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>M5 suffered from the same megalomania and psychosis that its creator , Dr. Richard Daystrom , suffered from.Maybe my monitor is n't correctly calibrated ( or the beer from yesterday is n't correctly decalibrated ) , but I read that as " MS suffered ... " " I 'm gon na ' fucking kill ... " , etc .
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>M5 suffered from the same megalomania and psychosis that its creator, Dr. Richard Daystrom, suffered from.Maybe my monitor isn't correctly calibrated (or the beer from yesterday isn't correctly decalibrated), but I read that as "MS suffered ...""I'm gonna' fucking kill ...", etc.
;-)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258907</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28261483</id>
	<title>Re:Decline of Usenet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244481660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1991: First pornographic video binary</p></div><p>Where does that come from?  I was watching (very poor quality) porn video on my C64 in the early 80's.  The good stuff came in the mid/late 80's with the Amiga.  All this this way before 1991 and it wouldn't surprise me if there was even older stuff.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1991 : First pornographic video binaryWhere does that come from ?
I was watching ( very poor quality ) porn video on my C64 in the early 80 's .
The good stuff came in the mid/late 80 's with the Amiga .
All this this way before 1991 and it would n't surprise me if there was even older stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1991: First pornographic video binaryWhere does that come from?
I was watching (very poor quality) porn video on my C64 in the early 80's.
The good stuff came in the mid/late 80's with the Amiga.
All this this way before 1991 and it wouldn't surprise me if there was even older stuff.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28259133</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258825</id>
	<title>So we should blame you?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244465400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So in other words, we should ultimately blame you for the commercialization and spamming of the internet?</p><p>I'm not sure you should have told us that...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So in other words , we should ultimately blame you for the commercialization and spamming of the internet ? I 'm not sure you should have told us that.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So in other words, we should ultimately blame you for the commercialization and spamming of the internet?I'm not sure you should have told us that...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28261729</id>
	<title>Re:I remember ClariNet</title>
	<author>gv250</author>
	<datestamp>1244484600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember ClariNet. I remember thinking "rec.humor.funny has much better jokes."</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember ClariNet .
I remember thinking " rec.humor.funny has much better jokes .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember ClariNet.
I remember thinking "rec.humor.funny has much better jokes.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258913</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28259187</id>
	<title>Re:So we should blame you?</title>
	<author>hondo77</author>
	<datestamp>1244467860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So in other words, we should ultimately blame you for the commercialization and spamming of the internet?</p></div><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canter\_\%26\_Siegel" title="wikipedia.org">Wrong guy</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So in other words , we should ultimately blame you for the commercialization and spamming of the internet ?
Wrong guy [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So in other words, we should ultimately blame you for the commercialization and spamming of the internet?
Wrong guy [wikipedia.org].
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258801</id>
	<title>Nonsense!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244465220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's all just a series of tubes!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's all just a series of tubes !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's all just a series of tubes!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258827</id>
	<title>Obligtory</title>
	<author>Dausha</author>
	<datestamp>1244465400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And, as then, this is the 20th anniversary of my first post.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And , as then , this is the 20th anniversary of my first post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And, as then, this is the 20th anniversary of my first post.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258907</id>
	<title>M5 was not robust</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244465880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>M5 suffered from the same megalomania and psychosis that its creator, Dr. Richard Daystrom, suffered from. This was the result of Daystrom having used his own 'memory engrams' in M5's programming.</htmltext>
<tokenext>M5 suffered from the same megalomania and psychosis that its creator , Dr. Richard Daystrom , suffered from .
This was the result of Daystrom having used his own 'memory engrams ' in M5 's programming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>M5 suffered from the same megalomania and psychosis that its creator, Dr. Richard Daystrom, suffered from.
This was the result of Daystrom having used his own 'memory engrams' in M5's programming.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28262435</id>
	<title>Business models?</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1244578740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"why in God's name should I pay for something that I can get for free?"  But it turns out, there are people who will do that</p></div><p>Ssssh!  The RIAA can hear us...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" why in God 's name should I pay for something that I can get for free ?
" But it turns out , there are people who will do thatSsssh !
The RIAA can hear us.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"why in God's name should I pay for something that I can get for free?
"  But it turns out, there are people who will do thatSsssh!
The RIAA can hear us...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258913</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258875</id>
	<title>Holy Heck!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244465700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It was in 1989 that I had my first account, at OCF.berkeley.edu... I posted something to comp.sys.amiga trying to get consensus as to whether or not it was a good idea to spend $300 on a 20 MB external HD for my A500.  Those were the days.  I didn't realize 20 years had passed.
<br> <br>
sigh.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It was in 1989 that I had my first account , at OCF.berkeley.edu... I posted something to comp.sys.amiga trying to get consensus as to whether or not it was a good idea to spend $ 300 on a 20 MB external HD for my A500 .
Those were the days .
I did n't realize 20 years had passed .
sigh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was in 1989 that I had my first account, at OCF.berkeley.edu... I posted something to comp.sys.amiga trying to get consensus as to whether or not it was a good idea to spend $300 on a 20 MB external HD for my A500.
Those were the days.
I didn't realize 20 years had passed.
sigh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28260945</id>
	<title>It just ain't fair! :-P</title>
	<author>bessie</author>
	<datestamp>1244477580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm an Old Programmer, too, and was introduced to the ArpaNet around the same time; had an adm3a terminal and a Ven-Tel 300 baud acoustic coupler loaned to me, while still a teen in highchool, but a friendly "free computing" promoter guy at UC Santa Cruz; years and years of watching all this stuff happen... and I never got rich!  What'd I do wrong? D'oh!</p><p>Where'd I put my beard and suspenders?  Damn kids, get offa my lawn!</p><p>- Tim</p><p>aka:</p><p>---&gt; Tim Bessie ----- {ucbvax,dual}!unisoft!tim<br>---&gt; Unisoft Systems; 739 Allston Way; Berkeley, CA 94710<br>---&gt; (415) 644-1230   TWX II 910 366-2145</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm an Old Programmer , too , and was introduced to the ArpaNet around the same time ; had an adm3a terminal and a Ven-Tel 300 baud acoustic coupler loaned to me , while still a teen in highchool , but a friendly " free computing " promoter guy at UC Santa Cruz ; years and years of watching all this stuff happen... and I never got rich !
What 'd I do wrong ?
D'oh ! Where 'd I put my beard and suspenders ?
Damn kids , get offa my lawn ! - Timaka : --- &gt; Tim Bessie ----- { ucbvax,dual } ! unisoft ! tim--- &gt; Unisoft Systems ; 739 Allston Way ; Berkeley , CA 94710--- &gt; ( 415 ) 644-1230 TWX II 910 366-2145</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm an Old Programmer, too, and was introduced to the ArpaNet around the same time; had an adm3a terminal and a Ven-Tel 300 baud acoustic coupler loaned to me, while still a teen in highchool, but a friendly "free computing" promoter guy at UC Santa Cruz; years and years of watching all this stuff happen... and I never got rich!
What'd I do wrong?
D'oh!Where'd I put my beard and suspenders?
Damn kids, get offa my lawn!- Timaka:---&gt; Tim Bessie ----- {ucbvax,dual}!unisoft!tim---&gt; Unisoft Systems; 739 Allston Way; Berkeley, CA 94710---&gt; (415) 644-1230   TWX II 910 366-2145</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28267875</id>
	<title>Newbie!</title>
	<author>professorguy</author>
	<datestamp>1244570640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>By 1989, I'd already been posting on the internet for <b>5 years!</b>  Back then my email address was:
<br>
<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...{ decvax!linus | seismo!harvard }!axiom!gts
<br>
<br>
That is, decvax was a well known location so you'd have to route through all the machines from you to decvax (which you'd presumably know), then on to linus, then axiom, then my account.  If you didn't know how to get to decvax, you could also start at seismo.  There were about 2 dozen well-known locations, and lists were published on how to route between them.
<br>
<br>
When I tell the kids today that at one time email addresses didn't have '@' signs, they think I'm cracked.  Was it the good old days?  Not really, but there was <b>no spam!</b></htmltext>
<tokenext>By 1989 , I 'd already been posting on the internet for 5 years !
Back then my email address was : ... { decvax ! linus | seismo ! harvard } ! axiom ! gts That is , decvax was a well known location so you 'd have to route through all the machines from you to decvax ( which you 'd presumably know ) , then on to linus , then axiom , then my account .
If you did n't know how to get to decvax , you could also start at seismo .
There were about 2 dozen well-known locations , and lists were published on how to route between them .
When I tell the kids today that at one time email addresses did n't have ' @ ' signs , they think I 'm cracked .
Was it the good old days ?
Not really , but there was no spam !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By 1989, I'd already been posting on the internet for 5 years!
Back then my email address was:

 ...{ decvax!linus | seismo!harvard }!axiom!gts


That is, decvax was a well known location so you'd have to route through all the machines from you to decvax (which you'd presumably know), then on to linus, then axiom, then my account.
If you didn't know how to get to decvax, you could also start at seismo.
There were about 2 dozen well-known locations, and lists were published on how to route between them.
When I tell the kids today that at one time email addresses didn't have '@' signs, they think I'm cracked.
Was it the good old days?
Not really, but there was no spam!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_2342241.28258875</parent>
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