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	<title>The Futurological Congress</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1244486040000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>eldavojohn writes <i>"Stanislaw Lem was arguably the greatest non-English science fiction writer before <a href="//slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/27/189234&amp;tid=214">his death</a> three years ago and left behind many science fiction novels with messages of satire and intrigue. <em>The Futurological Congress</em> is no different.  The book has several motifs throughout it but I found the most prominent to be that we are living in an increasingly medicated society whereby the future may be wonderfully dystopian &mdash; in that the horrors of our existence are simply hidden by drugs on top of drugs on top of drugs.  With a movie <a href="http://cinemascopian.com/2009/01/11/ari-folman-looks-into-a-future-past-bashir/">due out shortly</a> by director Ari Folman, it seems like a good time to revisit this often overlooked short classic sci-fi work."</i> Read on for the rest of eldavojohn's review</htmltext>
<tokenext>eldavojohn writes " Stanislaw Lem was arguably the greatest non-English science fiction writer before his death three years ago and left behind many science fiction novels with messages of satire and intrigue .
The Futurological Congress is no different .
The book has several motifs throughout it but I found the most prominent to be that we are living in an increasingly medicated society whereby the future may be wonderfully dystopian    in that the horrors of our existence are simply hidden by drugs on top of drugs on top of drugs .
With a movie due out shortly by director Ari Folman , it seems like a good time to revisit this often overlooked short classic sci-fi work .
" Read on for the rest of eldavojohn 's review</tokentext>
<sentencetext>eldavojohn writes "Stanislaw Lem was arguably the greatest non-English science fiction writer before his death three years ago and left behind many science fiction novels with messages of satire and intrigue.
The Futurological Congress is no different.
The book has several motifs throughout it but I found the most prominent to be that we are living in an increasingly medicated society whereby the future may be wonderfully dystopian — in that the horrors of our existence are simply hidden by drugs on top of drugs on top of drugs.
With a movie due out shortly by director Ari Folman, it seems like a good time to revisit this often overlooked short classic sci-fi work.
" Read on for the rest of eldavojohn's review</sentencetext>
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	<title>Thanks to the translators</title>
	<author>Windrip</author>
	<datestamp>1244455380000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the translators, "riding between the post-houses", who've brought Lem to those of us less able to read Polish. I see that translation has been hit a bit about the neck and shoulders in replies to this review. Thanks to Lem and Kandel, I don't have (nor do I want) a security clearance, wince while stirring the contents of styrofoam coffee cups, quote Snow more often than is necessary, and see the Phools everywhere.
<br>
On another note: <a href="http://www.penguinclassics.co.uk/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9781846141652,00.html?The\_Complete\_Cosmicomics\_Italo\_Calvino" title="penguinclassics.co.uk">Penguin Classics edition of Calvino's "Complete Cosmicomics"</a> [penguinclassics.co.uk]</div>
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<tokenext>I 'd like to take this opportunity to thank the translators , " riding between the post-houses " , who 've brought Lem to those of us less able to read Polish .
I see that translation has been hit a bit about the neck and shoulders in replies to this review .
Thanks to Lem and Kandel , I do n't have ( nor do I want ) a security clearance , wince while stirring the contents of styrofoam coffee cups , quote Snow more often than is necessary , and see the Phools everywhere .
On another note : Penguin Classics edition of Calvino 's " Complete Cosmicomics " [ penguinclassics.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the translators, "riding between the post-houses", who've brought Lem to those of us less able to read Polish.
I see that translation has been hit a bit about the neck and shoulders in replies to this review.
Thanks to Lem and Kandel, I don't have (nor do I want) a security clearance, wince while stirring the contents of styrofoam coffee cups, quote Snow more often than is necessary, and see the Phools everywhere.
On another note: Penguin Classics edition of Calvino's "Complete Cosmicomics" [penguinclassics.co.uk]
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	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>tenco</author>
	<datestamp>1244652360000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I read the book first (which is IMHO the best novel from Lem i read so far) and only watched the film with Clooney. And this film just sucks. The whole main theme of the book - a philosophical take on human cognition - was left out completely. But maybe I'm a bit special. I think Abrams version of Star Trek sucks, too, because everything Star Trek stood for was thrown away by Abrams and replaced by action sequences composed of shiny CGIs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read the book first ( which is IMHO the best novel from Lem i read so far ) and only watched the film with Clooney .
And this film just sucks .
The whole main theme of the book - a philosophical take on human cognition - was left out completely .
But maybe I 'm a bit special .
I think Abrams version of Star Trek sucks , too , because everything Star Trek stood for was thrown away by Abrams and replaced by action sequences composed of shiny CGIs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read the book first (which is IMHO the best novel from Lem i read so far) and only watched the film with Clooney.
And this film just sucks.
The whole main theme of the book - a philosophical take on human cognition - was left out completely.
But maybe I'm a bit special.
I think Abrams version of Star Trek sucks, too, because everything Star Trek stood for was thrown away by Abrams and replaced by action sequences composed of shiny CGIs.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Friggin' Dystopias</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244491500000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Stanislaw Lem is a dick. I'd much rather read some Asimov.</p><p>So I don't get modded down as flamebait too hard, I'd like to say that I am deadly tired of deconstructionist literature which starts out with the premise that humanity is terrible. I see enough of that in my everyday life. I want to read about hope. I don't care for literature that touts itself as being for 'smart people' or 'better than other literature'. Let the books speak for themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stanislaw Lem is a dick .
I 'd much rather read some Asimov.So I do n't get modded down as flamebait too hard , I 'd like to say that I am deadly tired of deconstructionist literature which starts out with the premise that humanity is terrible .
I see enough of that in my everyday life .
I want to read about hope .
I do n't care for literature that touts itself as being for 'smart people ' or 'better than other literature' .
Let the books speak for themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stanislaw Lem is a dick.
I'd much rather read some Asimov.So I don't get modded down as flamebait too hard, I'd like to say that I am deadly tired of deconstructionist literature which starts out with the premise that humanity is terrible.
I see enough of that in my everyday life.
I want to read about hope.
I don't care for literature that touts itself as being for 'smart people' or 'better than other literature'.
Let the books speak for themselves.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Lem is the best.</title>
	<author>Morrkh</author>
	<datestamp>1244460360000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>My favourite author. Ever. It might intrest you that about 85\% of Futurama's plots are directly inspired by Lem (Star Diaries, mostly), and you will find his Ideas present in many other science-fiction.

His more philosophical works are worth a look too, especially "Summa Technologicae" and It'S follow up "The Technology-Trap". There's even a Doctor of Philosophy offering "Lemology" for fun in Bochum, Germany...</htmltext>
<tokenext>My favourite author .
Ever. It might intrest you that about 85 \ % of Futurama 's plots are directly inspired by Lem ( Star Diaries , mostly ) , and you will find his Ideas present in many other science-fiction .
His more philosophical works are worth a look too , especially " Summa Technologicae " and It 'S follow up " The Technology-Trap " .
There 's even a Doctor of Philosophy offering " Lemology " for fun in Bochum , Germany.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My favourite author.
Ever. It might intrest you that about 85\% of Futurama's plots are directly inspired by Lem (Star Diaries, mostly), and you will find his Ideas present in many other science-fiction.
His more philosophical works are worth a look too, especially "Summa Technologicae" and It'S follow up "The Technology-Trap".
There's even a Doctor of Philosophy offering "Lemology" for fun in Bochum, Germany...</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244492760000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One thing that's confused me about Lem's books is the wordplay he does and how the hell anyone can translate that from Polish to English so flawlessly that the alliteration and prefix/suffix work moves from one language to another.  Perhaps these two languages are more closely related than I know but I am always impressed with the translations.

</p></div><p>
I read the Cyberiad as a Polish -&gt; English -&gt; Finnish translation, and nearly killed myself laughing. If the saying that a translation always loses half of the book, is true, then I better not learn Polish.
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<tokenext>One thing that 's confused me about Lem 's books is the wordplay he does and how the hell anyone can translate that from Polish to English so flawlessly that the alliteration and prefix/suffix work moves from one language to another .
Perhaps these two languages are more closely related than I know but I am always impressed with the translations .
I read the Cyberiad as a Polish - &gt; English - &gt; Finnish translation , and nearly killed myself laughing .
If the saying that a translation always loses half of the book , is true , then I better not learn Polish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing that's confused me about Lem's books is the wordplay he does and how the hell anyone can translate that from Polish to English so flawlessly that the alliteration and prefix/suffix work moves from one language to another.
Perhaps these two languages are more closely related than I know but I am always impressed with the translations.
I read the Cyberiad as a Polish -&gt; English -&gt; Finnish translation, and nearly killed myself laughing.
If the saying that a translation always loses half of the book, is true, then I better not learn Polish.

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	<title>I feel fantastic!</title>
	<author>Rei</author>
	<datestamp>1244490420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>I get up early when the sleeping pill wakes me<br>I take a wake up pill and fill with energy<br>I power on hard and I check my messages<br>But I don't have any messages<br>I take a driving pill and head to my car<br>I drive around a bit cuz work isn't very far<br>I call my phone and I check my messages<br>But I don't have any messages</p><p>All I know is driving on drugs feels better when they're prescription<br>All I know is the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautiful</p><p>I feel fantastic<br>And I never felt as good as how I do right now<br>Except for maybe when I think of how I felt that day<br>When I felt the way that I do right now, right now.<br>I feel fantastic<br>And I never felt as good as how I do right now<br>Except for maybe when I think of how I felt that day<br>When I felt the way that I do right now, right now, right now.</p><p>Work is anything but quiet these days<br>I try to medicate my concentration haze<br>I can feel/see the day unfold in front of me<br>So I take the stairs and hit the gym<br>The phone is ringing when I get to my desk<br>What was a stinging's now a sharp pain in my chest<br>So I take a Calminex and just chill<br>And then it's time for lunch again</p><p>All I know is work is easy when you don't stress out about deadlines<br>All I know is I take my medicine I always take my medicine.</p><p>And I feel fantastic<br>And I never felt as good as how I do right now<br>Except for maybe when I think of how I felt that day<br>When I felt the way that I do right now, right now, right now.<br>I feel fantastic<br>And I never felt as good as how I do right now<br>Except for maybe when I think of how I felt that day<br>When I felt the way that I do right now, right now, right now. (6 right now's that fade out)</p><p>Sometimes I'd like to slow things down<br>Enjoy the moment<br>But when I look the moment's gone</p><p>Work is over but I can't stay to work late<br>Got to leave and get ready for my second date<br>With a pretty girl that I met at the pharmacy<br>Right in the prescription line<br>I take a pill for my social anxiety<br>I get a table and a nice bottle of chablis<br>Now it's getting late and there's still no sign of her<br>I have another glass of wine</p><p>All I know is the wine lasts longer when you don't gotta share it with someone<br>All I know is the steak tastes better when I take my steak tastes better pill</p><p>And I feel fantastic<br>And I never felt as good as how I do right now<br>Except for maybe when I think of how I felt that day<br>When I felt the way that I do right now, right now.<br>And I feel fantastic<br>And I never felt as good as how I do right now<br>Except for maybe when I think of how I felt that day<br>When I felt the way that I do right now, right now, right now.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY59DjxVDkg" title="youtube.com">(Live)</a> [youtube.com] <a href="http://www.jonathancoulton.com/wiki/index.php/I\_Feel\_Fantastic" title="jonathancoulton.com">(JoCopedia)</a> [jonathancoulton.com] <a href="http://www.jonathancoulton.com/store/downloads/" title="jonathancoulton.com">(Store)</a> [jonathancoulton.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I get up early when the sleeping pill wakes meI take a wake up pill and fill with energyI power on hard and I check my messagesBut I do n't have any messagesI take a driving pill and head to my carI drive around a bit cuz work is n't very farI call my phone and I check my messagesBut I do n't have any messagesAll I know is driving on drugs feels better when they 're prescriptionAll I know is the world looks beautiful , the world looks so damn beautifulI feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now , right now.I feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now , right now , right now.Work is anything but quiet these daysI try to medicate my concentration hazeI can feel/see the day unfold in front of meSo I take the stairs and hit the gymThe phone is ringing when I get to my deskWhat was a stinging 's now a sharp pain in my chestSo I take a Calminex and just chillAnd then it 's time for lunch againAll I know is work is easy when you do n't stress out about deadlinesAll I know is I take my medicine I always take my medicine.And I feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now , right now , right now.I feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now , right now , right now .
( 6 right now 's that fade out ) Sometimes I 'd like to slow things downEnjoy the momentBut when I look the moment 's goneWork is over but I ca n't stay to work lateGot to leave and get ready for my second dateWith a pretty girl that I met at the pharmacyRight in the prescription lineI take a pill for my social anxietyI get a table and a nice bottle of chablisNow it 's getting late and there 's still no sign of herI have another glass of wineAll I know is the wine lasts longer when you do n't got ta share it with someoneAll I know is the steak tastes better when I take my steak tastes better pillAnd I feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now , right now.And I feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now , right now , right now .
( Live ) [ youtube.com ] ( JoCopedia ) [ jonathancoulton.com ] ( Store ) [ jonathancoulton.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get up early when the sleeping pill wakes meI take a wake up pill and fill with energyI power on hard and I check my messagesBut I don't have any messagesI take a driving pill and head to my carI drive around a bit cuz work isn't very farI call my phone and I check my messagesBut I don't have any messagesAll I know is driving on drugs feels better when they're prescriptionAll I know is the world looks beautiful, the world looks so damn beautifulI feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now, right now.I feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now, right now, right now.Work is anything but quiet these daysI try to medicate my concentration hazeI can feel/see the day unfold in front of meSo I take the stairs and hit the gymThe phone is ringing when I get to my deskWhat was a stinging's now a sharp pain in my chestSo I take a Calminex and just chillAnd then it's time for lunch againAll I know is work is easy when you don't stress out about deadlinesAll I know is I take my medicine I always take my medicine.And I feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now, right now, right now.I feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now, right now, right now.
(6 right now's that fade out)Sometimes I'd like to slow things downEnjoy the momentBut when I look the moment's goneWork is over but I can't stay to work lateGot to leave and get ready for my second dateWith a pretty girl that I met at the pharmacyRight in the prescription lineI take a pill for my social anxietyI get a table and a nice bottle of chablisNow it's getting late and there's still no sign of herI have another glass of wineAll I know is the wine lasts longer when you don't gotta share it with someoneAll I know is the steak tastes better when I take my steak tastes better pillAnd I feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now, right now.And I feel fantasticAnd I never felt as good as how I do right nowExcept for maybe when I think of how I felt that dayWhen I felt the way that I do right now, right now, right now.
(Live) [youtube.com] (JoCopedia) [jonathancoulton.com] (Store) [jonathancoulton.com]</sentencetext>
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	<title>just heard from wwdc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
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	<htmltext><p>NEW IPHONE FUNCTIONS AS BUTTPLUG!</p><p>it also comes pre-lubricated with an eco-friendly lubricant recycled from Steve Jobs' turds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NEW IPHONE FUNCTIONS AS BUTTPLUG ! it also comes pre-lubricated with an eco-friendly lubricant recycled from Steve Jobs ' turds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NEW IPHONE FUNCTIONS AS BUTTPLUG!it also comes pre-lubricated with an eco-friendly lubricant recycled from Steve Jobs' turds.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1244490840000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why Stanislaw Lem doesn't get more attention on this News for Nerds site I just don't understand... But for everyone here I'd recommend strongly the <i> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0156027593?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=3636363-20&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=0156027593" title="amazon.com" rel="nofollow">Cyberiad</a> [amazon.com] </i> </p></div><p>As someone who took twenty minutes to write up a review on <i>The Futurological Congress</i>, I may point out that it's very easy to write a review and submit it.  You could do that for <i>Cyberiad</i> if you'd like.  I agree that it is also a great book.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Maybe it's just a general adversion [sic] to works in translation.</p></div><p>One thing that's confused me about Lem's books is the wordplay he does and how the hell anyone can translate that from Polish to English so flawlessly that the alliteration and prefix/suffix work moves from one language to another.  Perhaps these two languages are more closely related than I know but I am always impressed with the translations.  <br> <br>

Why would anyone be averse to books in another language if a decent translation exists?  I feel that I am very eager to find these books and read them as I don't get out of the country a lot and love hearing different cultures reflected in works like Hesse and Tolstoy and Bulgakov<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... why, prior to this book I read <a href="http://slashdot.org/submission/1007963/2666-by-Roberto-Bolano" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">2666 by Roberto Bolano (Peruvian born Mexican resident who died in 2003) and reviewed it</a> [slashdot.org] but it was rejected.  Probably because it's not nerdy enough.  <br> <br>

I suspect that as special effects get better and better that Lem will be exposed to many more people through movies of his stories.  Hopefully people return to the original works to enjoy them.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Why Stanislaw Lem does n't get more attention on this News for Nerds site I just do n't understand... But for everyone here I 'd recommend strongly the Cyberiad [ amazon.com ] As someone who took twenty minutes to write up a review on The Futurological Congress , I may point out that it 's very easy to write a review and submit it .
You could do that for Cyberiad if you 'd like .
I agree that it is also a great book.Maybe it 's just a general adversion [ sic ] to works in translation.One thing that 's confused me about Lem 's books is the wordplay he does and how the hell anyone can translate that from Polish to English so flawlessly that the alliteration and prefix/suffix work moves from one language to another .
Perhaps these two languages are more closely related than I know but I am always impressed with the translations .
Why would anyone be averse to books in another language if a decent translation exists ?
I feel that I am very eager to find these books and read them as I do n't get out of the country a lot and love hearing different cultures reflected in works like Hesse and Tolstoy and Bulgakov ... why , prior to this book I read 2666 by Roberto Bolano ( Peruvian born Mexican resident who died in 2003 ) and reviewed it [ slashdot.org ] but it was rejected .
Probably because it 's not nerdy enough .
I suspect that as special effects get better and better that Lem will be exposed to many more people through movies of his stories .
Hopefully people return to the original works to enjoy them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why Stanislaw Lem doesn't get more attention on this News for Nerds site I just don't understand... But for everyone here I'd recommend strongly the  Cyberiad [amazon.com]  As someone who took twenty minutes to write up a review on The Futurological Congress, I may point out that it's very easy to write a review and submit it.
You could do that for Cyberiad if you'd like.
I agree that it is also a great book.Maybe it's just a general adversion [sic] to works in translation.One thing that's confused me about Lem's books is the wordplay he does and how the hell anyone can translate that from Polish to English so flawlessly that the alliteration and prefix/suffix work moves from one language to another.
Perhaps these two languages are more closely related than I know but I am always impressed with the translations.
Why would anyone be averse to books in another language if a decent translation exists?
I feel that I am very eager to find these books and read them as I don't get out of the country a lot and love hearing different cultures reflected in works like Hesse and Tolstoy and Bulgakov ... why, prior to this book I read 2666 by Roberto Bolano (Peruvian born Mexican resident who died in 2003) and reviewed it [slashdot.org] but it was rejected.
Probably because it's not nerdy enough.
I suspect that as special effects get better and better that Lem will be exposed to many more people through movies of his stories.
Hopefully people return to the original works to enjoy them.
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	<title>Memoirs Found in a Bathtub</title>
	<author>gnetwerker</author>
	<datestamp>1244491560000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Thanks to the OP and Slashdot for this.  As an avid reader of Lem since the 1970s, I remember <i>The Futurological Congress</i> well, and if I were at home, I'd grab my copy and re-read it.  For those who need a gentler introduction to Lem, try <i>Tales of Pirx the Pilot</i> and its sequels.  However, for pure, all-out trippyness, try <i>Memoirs Found in a Bathtub</i>.

And don't forget that Lem wrote <i>Solaris</i>, an SF classic, despite the two attempts at movies from it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks to the OP and Slashdot for this .
As an avid reader of Lem since the 1970s , I remember The Futurological Congress well , and if I were at home , I 'd grab my copy and re-read it .
For those who need a gentler introduction to Lem , try Tales of Pirx the Pilot and its sequels .
However , for pure , all-out trippyness , try Memoirs Found in a Bathtub .
And do n't forget that Lem wrote Solaris , an SF classic , despite the two attempts at movies from it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks to the OP and Slashdot for this.
As an avid reader of Lem since the 1970s, I remember The Futurological Congress well, and if I were at home, I'd grab my copy and re-read it.
For those who need a gentler introduction to Lem, try Tales of Pirx the Pilot and its sequels.
However, for pure, all-out trippyness, try Memoirs Found in a Bathtub.
And don't forget that Lem wrote Solaris, an SF classic, despite the two attempts at movies from it.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Futurama links</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244492460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's funny to note that Lem's humor is reminiscent of that in Futurama. At least one episode ("Fear of a Bot Planet") is based on a short story by Lem (Ijon Tichy's eleventh voyage).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's funny to note that Lem 's humor is reminiscent of that in Futurama .
At least one episode ( " Fear of a Bot Planet " ) is based on a short story by Lem ( Ijon Tichy 's eleventh voyage ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's funny to note that Lem's humor is reminiscent of that in Futurama.
At least one episode ("Fear of a Bot Planet") is based on a short story by Lem (Ijon Tichy's eleventh voyage).</sentencetext>
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	<title>Also, the Cosmic Carnival</title>
	<author>srobert</author>
	<datestamp>1244457900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The Cosmic Carnival of Stanislaw Lem : An Anthology of Entertaining Stories by the Modern Master of Science Fiction</i><br>This was also translated by Kandel and is a great intro to Lem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Cosmic Carnival of Stanislaw Lem : An Anthology of Entertaining Stories by the Modern Master of Science FictionThis was also translated by Kandel and is a great intro to Lem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Cosmic Carnival of Stanislaw Lem : An Anthology of Entertaining Stories by the Modern Master of Science FictionThis was also translated by Kandel and is a great intro to Lem.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28256853</id>
	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244456520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Learn Russian - more useful in the long term and you can still enjoy the books as Polish and Russian languages are so close that the Polish-Russian translation is mostly trivial and looses nothing in the process.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Learn Russian - more useful in the long term and you can still enjoy the books as Polish and Russian languages are so close that the Polish-Russian translation is mostly trivial and looses nothing in the process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Learn Russian - more useful in the long term and you can still enjoy the books as Polish and Russian languages are so close that the Polish-Russian translation is mostly trivial and looses nothing in the process.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28254245</id>
	<title>OH MY GOD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244491020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>STEVE JOBS FOUND DEAD<br>just heard he had a heart attack while coming all over the attendees of WWDC<br>RIP, Steve.<br>We'll always remember you for forcing shiny plastic objects up our writhing, gapped assholes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>STEVE JOBS FOUND DEADjust heard he had a heart attack while coming all over the attendees of WWDCRIP , Steve.We 'll always remember you for forcing shiny plastic objects up our writhing , gapped assholes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>STEVE JOBS FOUND DEADjust heard he had a heart attack while coming all over the attendees of WWDCRIP, Steve.We'll always remember you for forcing shiny plastic objects up our writhing, gapped assholes.</sentencetext>
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	<title>The love poem</title>
	<author>raddan</author>
	<datestamp>1244455260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was recently asked to do a reading for a wedding which had a strong geek audience in attendance, and I very much considered reading Lem's love poem.  This was a book that deeply influenced my decision to spend a life in pursuing hackerdom, and I was fortunate enough to be introduced to Lem by a former Bell Labs employee who also introduced me to a variety of other cool geeky things (telnet, for instance).  In the end, I decided not to go with the poem, because it doesn't really fit the couple actually getting married, but <em>my own</em> wedding is at the end of the summer, so you know what I'm going to ask my best man to read!
<br> <br>
For those not familiar with the poem-- what is even more astounding about it is that it was original written in Polish!  The translation is marvelous.  On the subject of Solaris, though-- I think it is a masterpiece of psychologial terror, totally gripping-- but that the film adaptations (Tarkovsky's less so) are somewhat weak.  Too bad Kubrick didn't take a stab at it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was recently asked to do a reading for a wedding which had a strong geek audience in attendance , and I very much considered reading Lem 's love poem .
This was a book that deeply influenced my decision to spend a life in pursuing hackerdom , and I was fortunate enough to be introduced to Lem by a former Bell Labs employee who also introduced me to a variety of other cool geeky things ( telnet , for instance ) .
In the end , I decided not to go with the poem , because it does n't really fit the couple actually getting married , but my own wedding is at the end of the summer , so you know what I 'm going to ask my best man to read !
For those not familiar with the poem-- what is even more astounding about it is that it was original written in Polish !
The translation is marvelous .
On the subject of Solaris , though-- I think it is a masterpiece of psychologial terror , totally gripping-- but that the film adaptations ( Tarkovsky 's less so ) are somewhat weak .
Too bad Kubrick did n't take a stab at it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was recently asked to do a reading for a wedding which had a strong geek audience in attendance, and I very much considered reading Lem's love poem.
This was a book that deeply influenced my decision to spend a life in pursuing hackerdom, and I was fortunate enough to be introduced to Lem by a former Bell Labs employee who also introduced me to a variety of other cool geeky things (telnet, for instance).
In the end, I decided not to go with the poem, because it doesn't really fit the couple actually getting married, but my own wedding is at the end of the summer, so you know what I'm going to ask my best man to read!
For those not familiar with the poem-- what is even more astounding about it is that it was original written in Polish!
The translation is marvelous.
On the subject of Solaris, though-- I think it is a masterpiece of psychologial terror, totally gripping-- but that the film adaptations (Tarkovsky's less so) are somewhat weak.
Too bad Kubrick didn't take a stab at it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28258787</id>
	<title>Re:I feel fantastic!</title>
	<author>Eli Gottlieb</author>
	<datestamp>1244465100000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, reading that gave me my daily dose of <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Squick" title="tvtropes.org">squick</a> [tvtropes.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , reading that gave me my daily dose of squick [ tvtropes.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, reading that gave me my daily dose of squick [tvtropes.org].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28255587</id>
	<title>medicated society?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244452380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Few people i know are medicated, at any level.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Few people i know are medicated , at any level .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Few people i know are medicated, at any level.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1244463900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually what you would call dull, is acknowledged one of the greatest masterpieces of cinema, Andreij Tarkovskisj Solaris adaption!<br>The main problem is that Tarkovskij basically made a 3 hour epos about guilt religion and believe out of the book. Hard to swallow for the american action movie audience!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually what you would call dull , is acknowledged one of the greatest masterpieces of cinema , Andreij Tarkovskisj Solaris adaption ! The main problem is that Tarkovskij basically made a 3 hour epos about guilt religion and believe out of the book .
Hard to swallow for the american action movie audience !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually what you would call dull, is acknowledged one of the greatest masterpieces of cinema, Andreij Tarkovskisj Solaris adaption!The main problem is that Tarkovskij basically made a 3 hour epos about guilt religion and believe out of the book.
Hard to swallow for the american action movie audience!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28256957</id>
	<title>All Future is Dystopian</title>
	<author>Chicken\_Kickers</author>
	<datestamp>1244456940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When you think about it, all future is dystopian. If you can somehow travel back in time and tell your Puritan founding fathers that porn could be accessed with literally a touch of a button, then they will probably freak out. The same way if you told a native nomadic tribesman that in the future, national borders will prevent him from roaming freely. My point here is that what may seem to be dystopian to us <i>now</i> will be the <i>norm</i> or even <i>desired</i> in the future. There is no way that we can reliably predict how people's mores and social psychology will mutate into.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When you think about it , all future is dystopian .
If you can somehow travel back in time and tell your Puritan founding fathers that porn could be accessed with literally a touch of a button , then they will probably freak out .
The same way if you told a native nomadic tribesman that in the future , national borders will prevent him from roaming freely .
My point here is that what may seem to be dystopian to us now will be the norm or even desired in the future .
There is no way that we can reliably predict how people 's mores and social psychology will mutate into .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you think about it, all future is dystopian.
If you can somehow travel back in time and tell your Puritan founding fathers that porn could be accessed with literally a touch of a button, then they will probably freak out.
The same way if you told a native nomadic tribesman that in the future, national borders will prevent him from roaming freely.
My point here is that what may seem to be dystopian to us now will be the norm or even desired in the future.
There is no way that we can reliably predict how people's mores and social psychology will mutate into.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Thirded...</title>
	<author>Dusty101</author>
	<datestamp>1244462700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another shout out from this corner for Lem as arguably the greatest SF author of the 20th century. I fairly recently went back and read Arthur C. Clarke's classic "Childhood's End", and I've got to say that, while it's got some interesting ideas (some of which are a bit dated nowadays, but novel for the time), I found it overly depressing and definitely wanting in comparison to almost everything I've read by Lem, of which the above list given in the parent is a subset. While a lot of Lem's stuff is pretty pessimistic, it's usually leavened with at least a touch of mordant humour, even if it is often at the expense of the human condition.</p><p>"Fiasco" is my personal fave, and possibly my favourite SF novel so far. "HMV" is a book that, had it not been pigeonholed as Eastern European Science Fiction, probably should have won global acclaim simply as a work of literature. To the above list, I'd probably also have to recommend "Peace On Earth" - it's sublimely creative lunacy and yet makes total sense in its own context.</p><p>In terms of advice for new readers of Lem, I'd also point out that he wrote in at least two totally distinct styles. I'd therefore suggest that anyone trying him for the first time should at least read one of his absurdist comedies (e.g. "The Futurological Congress" or "Cyberiad") plus one of his hard SF stories (e.g. "Fiasco" or "Solaris"), as you might love one Lem but not enjoy the other.</p><p>One last detail: my understanding is that the English version of "Solaris" was translated from Polish into French and then into English, and so it doesn't flow quite as well as the straight Polish-to-English translations, particularly those by Michael Kandel. I always thought it a bit of a shame that, given the amount of time and money spent on the Soderbergh/Clooney film adaptation, no-one kicked back enough for a straight Polish-English translation of the original novel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another shout out from this corner for Lem as arguably the greatest SF author of the 20th century .
I fairly recently went back and read Arthur C. Clarke 's classic " Childhood 's End " , and I 've got to say that , while it 's got some interesting ideas ( some of which are a bit dated nowadays , but novel for the time ) , I found it overly depressing and definitely wanting in comparison to almost everything I 've read by Lem , of which the above list given in the parent is a subset .
While a lot of Lem 's stuff is pretty pessimistic , it 's usually leavened with at least a touch of mordant humour , even if it is often at the expense of the human condition .
" Fiasco " is my personal fave , and possibly my favourite SF novel so far .
" HMV " is a book that , had it not been pigeonholed as Eastern European Science Fiction , probably should have won global acclaim simply as a work of literature .
To the above list , I 'd probably also have to recommend " Peace On Earth " - it 's sublimely creative lunacy and yet makes total sense in its own context.In terms of advice for new readers of Lem , I 'd also point out that he wrote in at least two totally distinct styles .
I 'd therefore suggest that anyone trying him for the first time should at least read one of his absurdist comedies ( e.g .
" The Futurological Congress " or " Cyberiad " ) plus one of his hard SF stories ( e.g .
" Fiasco " or " Solaris " ) , as you might love one Lem but not enjoy the other.One last detail : my understanding is that the English version of " Solaris " was translated from Polish into French and then into English , and so it does n't flow quite as well as the straight Polish-to-English translations , particularly those by Michael Kandel .
I always thought it a bit of a shame that , given the amount of time and money spent on the Soderbergh/Clooney film adaptation , no-one kicked back enough for a straight Polish-English translation of the original novel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another shout out from this corner for Lem as arguably the greatest SF author of the 20th century.
I fairly recently went back and read Arthur C. Clarke's classic "Childhood's End", and I've got to say that, while it's got some interesting ideas (some of which are a bit dated nowadays, but novel for the time), I found it overly depressing and definitely wanting in comparison to almost everything I've read by Lem, of which the above list given in the parent is a subset.
While a lot of Lem's stuff is pretty pessimistic, it's usually leavened with at least a touch of mordant humour, even if it is often at the expense of the human condition.
"Fiasco" is my personal fave, and possibly my favourite SF novel so far.
"HMV" is a book that, had it not been pigeonholed as Eastern European Science Fiction, probably should have won global acclaim simply as a work of literature.
To the above list, I'd probably also have to recommend "Peace On Earth" - it's sublimely creative lunacy and yet makes total sense in its own context.In terms of advice for new readers of Lem, I'd also point out that he wrote in at least two totally distinct styles.
I'd therefore suggest that anyone trying him for the first time should at least read one of his absurdist comedies (e.g.
"The Futurological Congress" or "Cyberiad") plus one of his hard SF stories (e.g.
"Fiasco" or "Solaris"), as you might love one Lem but not enjoy the other.One last detail: my understanding is that the English version of "Solaris" was translated from Polish into French and then into English, and so it doesn't flow quite as well as the straight Polish-to-English translations, particularly those by Michael Kandel.
I always thought it a bit of a shame that, given the amount of time and money spent on the Soderbergh/Clooney film adaptation, no-one kicked back enough for a straight Polish-English translation of the original novel.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Seconded</title>
	<author>psiekl</author>
	<datestamp>1244455380000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And read <i>The Invincible</i> for Lem's take at evolution (and a great action story as well - in fact, I'm surprised no-one did a movie based on it yet).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And read The Invincible for Lem 's take at evolution ( and a great action story as well - in fact , I 'm surprised no-one did a movie based on it yet ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And read The Invincible for Lem's take at evolution (and a great action story as well - in fact, I'm surprised no-one did a movie based on it yet).</sentencetext>
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	<title>Lovecraft?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244491440000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"While Lem may not be the icon that Lovecraft, Clarke and Asimov have become..."<br>You must be kidding. I like Lovecraft, but what is that fairy tale writer doing there? Have you read anything besides The FC and Solaris by Lem? How can you compare Lovecraft to Asimov? I just don't get it. Advice: read The Investigation, Eden, Return from the Stars, Fiasco, Peace on Earth, The Cyberiad and then reread Lovecraft.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" While Lem may not be the icon that Lovecraft , Clarke and Asimov have become... " You must be kidding .
I like Lovecraft , but what is that fairy tale writer doing there ?
Have you read anything besides The FC and Solaris by Lem ?
How can you compare Lovecraft to Asimov ?
I just do n't get it .
Advice : read The Investigation , Eden , Return from the Stars , Fiasco , Peace on Earth , The Cyberiad and then reread Lovecraft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"While Lem may not be the icon that Lovecraft, Clarke and Asimov have become..."You must be kidding.
I like Lovecraft, but what is that fairy tale writer doing there?
Have you read anything besides The FC and Solaris by Lem?
How can you compare Lovecraft to Asimov?
I just don't get it.
Advice: read The Investigation, Eden, Return from the Stars, Fiasco, Peace on Earth, The Cyberiad and then reread Lovecraft.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28254317</id>
	<title>Seconded</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244491320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I always recommend <i>Cyberiad</i> for new readers of Lem.  But for the geeks that are sure to lurk here let me throw out a few more.  I've read pretty much everything that's been translated (including a lot of his literaturary criticism), so I know the gems.
<br>
<br>
Read <i>Memoirs Found In A Bathtub</i> if you liked <i>Futurological Congress</i>.  It has the same paranoid glimpses of a distopian, yet familiar, future.<br>
Read <i>Mortal Engines</i> if you liked <i>Cyberiad</i>.  Funny stuff.<br>
Read <i>Fiasco</i> for great hard Sci-fi.  Greatest density of cool ideas per page.<br>
Read <i>Imaginary Magnitude</i> if you're a geek and want to read about the famous Golem XIV (which has its own wikipedia article).<br>
Read <i>The Chain of Chance</i> and you'll never read another mystery novel again--he pretty much unravels the entire genre with this book.<br>
Read <i>His Master's Voice</i> for dense philosophy presented as a science mystery. This is his <b>masterpiece</b>.<br>
<br>
This is just the tip of the iceberg--there's plenty more where that came from.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I always recommend Cyberiad for new readers of Lem .
But for the geeks that are sure to lurk here let me throw out a few more .
I 've read pretty much everything that 's been translated ( including a lot of his literaturary criticism ) , so I know the gems .
Read Memoirs Found In A Bathtub if you liked Futurological Congress .
It has the same paranoid glimpses of a distopian , yet familiar , future .
Read Mortal Engines if you liked Cyberiad .
Funny stuff .
Read Fiasco for great hard Sci-fi .
Greatest density of cool ideas per page .
Read Imaginary Magnitude if you 're a geek and want to read about the famous Golem XIV ( which has its own wikipedia article ) .
Read The Chain of Chance and you 'll never read another mystery novel again--he pretty much unravels the entire genre with this book .
Read His Master 's Voice for dense philosophy presented as a science mystery .
This is his masterpiece .
This is just the tip of the iceberg--there 's plenty more where that came from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always recommend Cyberiad for new readers of Lem.
But for the geeks that are sure to lurk here let me throw out a few more.
I've read pretty much everything that's been translated (including a lot of his literaturary criticism), so I know the gems.
Read Memoirs Found In A Bathtub if you liked Futurological Congress.
It has the same paranoid glimpses of a distopian, yet familiar, future.
Read Mortal Engines if you liked Cyberiad.
Funny stuff.
Read Fiasco for great hard Sci-fi.
Greatest density of cool ideas per page.
Read Imaginary Magnitude if you're a geek and want to read about the famous Golem XIV (which has its own wikipedia article).
Read The Chain of Chance and you'll never read another mystery novel again--he pretty much unravels the entire genre with this book.
Read His Master's Voice for dense philosophy presented as a science mystery.
This is his masterpiece.
This is just the tip of the iceberg--there's plenty more where that came from.</sentencetext>
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	<title>A theme in a variety of books.</title>
	<author>gubers33</author>
	<datestamp>1244490900000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>The continuous medicating of society is a common theme in books such as A Brave New World. It was a common trend in writing of future Utopias which have become numb to emotion and expression. I look forward to this movie, but it you want a movie that has this them I recommend Equilibrium starring Christen Bale. It was only released on DVD in the United States, but was released in the UK in theaters where where it did well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The continuous medicating of society is a common theme in books such as A Brave New World .
It was a common trend in writing of future Utopias which have become numb to emotion and expression .
I look forward to this movie , but it you want a movie that has this them I recommend Equilibrium starring Christen Bale .
It was only released on DVD in the United States , but was released in the UK in theaters where where it did well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The continuous medicating of society is a common theme in books such as A Brave New World.
It was a common trend in writing of future Utopias which have become numb to emotion and expression.
I look forward to this movie, but it you want a movie that has this them I recommend Equilibrium starring Christen Bale.
It was only released on DVD in the United States, but was released in the UK in theaters where where it did well.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Ahem... what about crossing your frontiers guys ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244460780000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>As usual, few bi-neural american are still considering the world does not exists outside their frontiers...</p><p>May I remind you of some non American (nor English ) sci-fi Writers ? (Okay... my mistake... it was years before Barrack brought intelligence to planet of apes...)</p><p>Herbert W. Franke,<br>Karel &#196;OEapek,<br>Jules Verne,<br>Pierre Boule (planet of Apes)<br>Camille Flammarion,<br>Dino Buzzati,<br>we may even consider russian born Isaac Asimov<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As usual , few bi-neural american are still considering the world does not exists outside their frontiers...May I remind you of some non American ( nor English ) sci-fi Writers ?
( Okay... my mistake... it was years before Barrack brought intelligence to planet of apes... ) Herbert W. Franke,Karel   OEapek,Jules Verne,Pierre Boule ( planet of Apes ) Camille Flammarion,Dino Buzzati,we may even consider russian born Isaac Asimov : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As usual, few bi-neural american are still considering the world does not exists outside their frontiers...May I remind you of some non American (nor English ) sci-fi Writers ?
(Okay... my mistake... it was years before Barrack brought intelligence to planet of apes...)Herbert W. Franke,Karel ÄOEapek,Jules Verne,Pierre Boule (planet of Apes)Camille Flammarion,Dino Buzzati,we may even consider russian born Isaac Asimov :-)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Tichy does the right thing - he leaves the congres</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244490120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>the book lacks Lem's entertainement factor, reporting exactly how congresse usually are:<p>
boring boring boring</p><p>
no wonder Tichy made some excursions</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the book lacks Lem 's entertainement factor , reporting exactly how congresse usually are : boring boring boring no wonder Tichy made some excursions</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the book lacks Lem's entertainement factor, reporting exactly how congresse usually are:
boring boring boring
no wonder Tichy made some excursions</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28259665</id>
	<title>Yay!  Good to see some publicity for Lem</title>
	<author>danny</author>
	<datestamp>1244470560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've written <a href="http://dannyreviews.com/h/Futurological\_Congress.html" title="dannyreviews.com">a review of <i>The Futurological Congress</i> </a> [dannyreviews.com], but not of his other books, which include some other gems.  <i>Cyberiad</i> is a great piece of fun, and <i>His Master's Voice</i> has dated much better than most of the alien contact stories from the 1960s.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've written a review of The Futurological Congress [ dannyreviews.com ] , but not of his other books , which include some other gems .
Cyberiad is a great piece of fun , and His Master 's Voice has dated much better than most of the alien contact stories from the 1960s .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've written a review of The Futurological Congress  [dannyreviews.com], but not of his other books, which include some other gems.
Cyberiad is a great piece of fun, and His Master's Voice has dated much better than most of the alien contact stories from the 1960s.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28263611</id>
	<title>Lem: Not only chemically induced surrealism...</title>
	<author>Johansson</author>
	<datestamp>1244550060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>In "The Futurological Congress" the Philip K. Dick-type "reality reversals" are brought on by psychoactive chemicals. But Lem obviously considered other forms of cheating subjective reality, long before "The Matrix": In his non-fiction "Summa Technologiae" (1964) -unfortunately never translated to English- he suggested a new technology he called "Phantomatics" which is what we today would call "Virtual Reality"!
BTW in the same book Lem also considered the possibilities of micro- and nanotechnology. Bear in mind that the censorship in communist Poland meant Lem  never had an opportunity to read Richard Feynman's ideas on the subject, and had to "re-invent the wheel" on his own.
Without the language- and ideology barriers he could have become a major source of inspiration in the 1960s and maybe accelerated the development of science fiction to reach beyond the usual topics of the genre. Lem was inspired by authors such as Olaf Stapledon and felt SF should not be confined to a literary ghetto, but be used to address those deep issues authors and philosophers would find hard to approach in ordinary mainstream fiction.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In " The Futurological Congress " the Philip K. Dick-type " reality reversals " are brought on by psychoactive chemicals .
But Lem obviously considered other forms of cheating subjective reality , long before " The Matrix " : In his non-fiction " Summa Technologiae " ( 1964 ) -unfortunately never translated to English- he suggested a new technology he called " Phantomatics " which is what we today would call " Virtual Reality " !
BTW in the same book Lem also considered the possibilities of micro- and nanotechnology .
Bear in mind that the censorship in communist Poland meant Lem never had an opportunity to read Richard Feynman 's ideas on the subject , and had to " re-invent the wheel " on his own .
Without the language- and ideology barriers he could have become a major source of inspiration in the 1960s and maybe accelerated the development of science fiction to reach beyond the usual topics of the genre .
Lem was inspired by authors such as Olaf Stapledon and felt SF should not be confined to a literary ghetto , but be used to address those deep issues authors and philosophers would find hard to approach in ordinary mainstream fiction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In "The Futurological Congress" the Philip K. Dick-type "reality reversals" are brought on by psychoactive chemicals.
But Lem obviously considered other forms of cheating subjective reality, long before "The Matrix": In his non-fiction "Summa Technologiae" (1964) -unfortunately never translated to English- he suggested a new technology he called "Phantomatics" which is what we today would call "Virtual Reality"!
BTW in the same book Lem also considered the possibilities of micro- and nanotechnology.
Bear in mind that the censorship in communist Poland meant Lem  never had an opportunity to read Richard Feynman's ideas on the subject, and had to "re-invent the wheel" on his own.
Without the language- and ideology barriers he could have become a major source of inspiration in the 1960s and maybe accelerated the development of science fiction to reach beyond the usual topics of the genre.
Lem was inspired by authors such as Olaf Stapledon and felt SF should not be confined to a literary ghetto, but be used to address those deep issues authors and philosophers would find hard to approach in ordinary mainstream fiction.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28259431</id>
	<title>"You know what I mean..."</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1244469180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Stanislaw Lem was arguably the greatest non-English science fiction writer</p></div><p>I think Robert Heinlein was a better writer. Pretty sure he wasn't English.</p><p>Oh, you mean "greatest SF writer <i>who didn't write in English</i>". Oh, do you think I'm nitpicking? Well, if you care that little about what words mean, you probably shouldn't write book reviews.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stanislaw Lem was arguably the greatest non-English science fiction writerI think Robert Heinlein was a better writer .
Pretty sure he was n't English.Oh , you mean " greatest SF writer who did n't write in English " .
Oh , do you think I 'm nitpicking ?
Well , if you care that little about what words mean , you probably should n't write book reviews .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stanislaw Lem was arguably the greatest non-English science fiction writerI think Robert Heinlein was a better writer.
Pretty sure he wasn't English.Oh, you mean "greatest SF writer who didn't write in English".
Oh, do you think I'm nitpicking?
Well, if you care that little about what words mean, you probably shouldn't write book reviews.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28254499</id>
	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244492100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>As someone who took twenty minutes to write up a review on The Futurological Congress, I may point out that it's very easy to write a review and submit it. You could do that for Cyberiad if you'd like.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Yeah but aren't you pretty much always attention-whoring like that?  "Let me show you the ways of the attention whore, and you too can submit a lame review of a lame book and get your handle posted up there on the Slashdot mainpage.  Just imagine how popular you will be with the ladies (not at all) when you submit your Slashdot review!".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who took twenty minutes to write up a review on The Futurological Congress , I may point out that it 's very easy to write a review and submit it .
You could do that for Cyberiad if you 'd like .
Yeah but are n't you pretty much always attention-whoring like that ?
" Let me show you the ways of the attention whore , and you too can submit a lame review of a lame book and get your handle posted up there on the Slashdot mainpage .
Just imagine how popular you will be with the ladies ( not at all ) when you submit your Slashdot review !
" .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who took twenty minutes to write up a review on The Futurological Congress, I may point out that it's very easy to write a review and submit it.
You could do that for Cyberiad if you'd like.
Yeah but aren't you pretty much always attention-whoring like that?
"Let me show you the ways of the attention whore, and you too can submit a lame review of a lame book and get your handle posted up there on the Slashdot mainpage.
Just imagine how popular you will be with the ladies (not at all) when you submit your Slashdot review!
".
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28254461</id>
	<title>I saw this when</title>
	<author>Tiber</author>
	<datestamp>1244491920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I saw this when it was called EQUILIBRIUM and didn't suck.</p><p><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238380/" title="imdb.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238380/</a> [imdb.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw this when it was called EQUILIBRIUM and did n't suck.http : //www.imdb.com/title/tt0238380/ [ imdb.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw this when it was called EQUILIBRIUM and didn't suck.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238380/ [imdb.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28255445</id>
	<title>Cyberiad</title>
	<author>bcrowell</author>
	<datestamp>1244451960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've never enjoyed Lem's novels. They tend to be extremely dull, IMO, and often there's virtually no characterization. What I really enjoyed by Lem was the Cyberiad, which is anthology of satirical fairy tales about two robotic inventors. They're funny, but they also have a lot of interesting intellectual content in them. There's a lot of really funny wordplay; I think his translator must have sold his soul to the devil in order to be able to translate the verbal craziness so well from Polish into English.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never enjoyed Lem 's novels .
They tend to be extremely dull , IMO , and often there 's virtually no characterization .
What I really enjoyed by Lem was the Cyberiad , which is anthology of satirical fairy tales about two robotic inventors .
They 're funny , but they also have a lot of interesting intellectual content in them .
There 's a lot of really funny wordplay ; I think his translator must have sold his soul to the devil in order to be able to translate the verbal craziness so well from Polish into English .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never enjoyed Lem's novels.
They tend to be extremely dull, IMO, and often there's virtually no characterization.
What I really enjoyed by Lem was the Cyberiad, which is anthology of satirical fairy tales about two robotic inventors.
They're funny, but they also have a lot of interesting intellectual content in them.
There's a lot of really funny wordplay; I think his translator must have sold his soul to the devil in order to be able to translate the verbal craziness so well from Polish into English.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28254067</id>
	<title>The great Lem</title>
	<author>CRCulver</author>
	<datestamp>1244490180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why Stanislaw Lem doesn't get more attention on this News for Nerds site I just don't understand. Maybe it's just a general adversion to works in translation. But look beyond works like <i>Solaris</i> which is a clever book, though not so great, and of the film adaptations one was dull and the other cheesy. But for everyone here I'd recommend strongly the <i> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0156027593?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=3636363-20&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=0156027593" title="amazon.com">Cyberiad</a> [amazon.com] </i>, about capable engineers roaming the galaxy when technology allows them to realize whatever crazy schemes they want. The chapter where they design a computer capable of generating poetry, and its first production is a splendid love poem in the language of tensor algebra will have the mathematically minded folks here falling off their chairs laughing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why Stanislaw Lem does n't get more attention on this News for Nerds site I just do n't understand .
Maybe it 's just a general adversion to works in translation .
But look beyond works like Solaris which is a clever book , though not so great , and of the film adaptations one was dull and the other cheesy .
But for everyone here I 'd recommend strongly the Cyberiad [ amazon.com ] , about capable engineers roaming the galaxy when technology allows them to realize whatever crazy schemes they want .
The chapter where they design a computer capable of generating poetry , and its first production is a splendid love poem in the language of tensor algebra will have the mathematically minded folks here falling off their chairs laughing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why Stanislaw Lem doesn't get more attention on this News for Nerds site I just don't understand.
Maybe it's just a general adversion to works in translation.
But look beyond works like Solaris which is a clever book, though not so great, and of the film adaptations one was dull and the other cheesy.
But for everyone here I'd recommend strongly the  Cyberiad [amazon.com] , about capable engineers roaming the galaxy when technology allows them to realize whatever crazy schemes they want.
The chapter where they design a computer capable of generating poetry, and its first production is a splendid love poem in the language of tensor algebra will have the mathematically minded folks here falling off their chairs laughing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28254277</id>
	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>bolek\_b</author>
	<datestamp>1244491140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>To continue with recommendations, Lem's final work, <i>Fiasco</i> is a superb book. And for more advanced readers (such as those, who read and liked <i>Foucault's Pendulum</i> by Umberto Eco), there are great novels <i>His Master's Voice</i> and <i>Golem XIV</i>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To continue with recommendations , Lem 's final work , Fiasco is a superb book .
And for more advanced readers ( such as those , who read and liked Foucault 's Pendulum by Umberto Eco ) , there are great novels His Master 's Voice and Golem XIV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To continue with recommendations, Lem's final work, Fiasco is a superb book.
And for more advanced readers (such as those, who read and liked Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco), there are great novels His Master's Voice and Golem XIV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28255623</id>
	<title>Re:Seconded</title>
	<author>radtea</author>
	<datestamp>1244452500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Read His Master's Voice for dense philosophy presented as a science mystery. This is his masterpiece.</i></p><p>Second that.  It is one of  the very few science fiction stories that gets the process of how scientists actually think basically correct.</p><p>Amongst his more accessible books--after you get through the lengthy wandering through the spaceport stuff at the beginning--is "Return From the Stars", which is more optimistic than most.  It's the story of a returning starfarer trying to adapt to a society that has changed radically in his absence.</p><p>Lem is not the just "arguably the greatest non-English SF writer" he is arguably the greatest SF writer of the 20th century, in any language.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Read His Master 's Voice for dense philosophy presented as a science mystery .
This is his masterpiece.Second that .
It is one of the very few science fiction stories that gets the process of how scientists actually think basically correct.Amongst his more accessible books--after you get through the lengthy wandering through the spaceport stuff at the beginning--is " Return From the Stars " , which is more optimistic than most .
It 's the story of a returning starfarer trying to adapt to a society that has changed radically in his absence.Lem is not the just " arguably the greatest non-English SF writer " he is arguably the greatest SF writer of the 20th century , in any language .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read His Master's Voice for dense philosophy presented as a science mystery.
This is his masterpiece.Second that.
It is one of  the very few science fiction stories that gets the process of how scientists actually think basically correct.Amongst his more accessible books--after you get through the lengthy wandering through the spaceport stuff at the beginning--is "Return From the Stars", which is more optimistic than most.
It's the story of a returning starfarer trying to adapt to a society that has changed radically in his absence.Lem is not the just "arguably the greatest non-English SF writer" he is arguably the greatest SF writer of the 20th century, in any language.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28255307</id>
	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>Zontar\_Thing\_From\_Ve</author>
	<datestamp>1244451600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why Stanislaw Lem doesn't get more attention on this News for Nerds site I just don't understand. Maybe it's just a general adversion to works in translation. But look beyond works like <i>Solaris</i> which is a clever book, though not so great, and of the film adaptations one was dull and the other cheesy.</p> </div><p>Translation - <br>
I'm American.  I don't like to think.  I am incapable of understanding the work of a genius like Andrei Tarkovsky.  Even the remake with Clooney didn't work for me because despite being shorter, I still had to think about it.  And there wasn't enough stuff being blown up. <br> <br>

By the way, I'm American so I'm allowed to say that.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Why Stanislaw Lem does n't get more attention on this News for Nerds site I just do n't understand .
Maybe it 's just a general adversion to works in translation .
But look beyond works like Solaris which is a clever book , though not so great , and of the film adaptations one was dull and the other cheesy .
Translation - I 'm American .
I do n't like to think .
I am incapable of understanding the work of a genius like Andrei Tarkovsky .
Even the remake with Clooney did n't work for me because despite being shorter , I still had to think about it .
And there was n't enough stuff being blown up .
By the way , I 'm American so I 'm allowed to say that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why Stanislaw Lem doesn't get more attention on this News for Nerds site I just don't understand.
Maybe it's just a general adversion to works in translation.
But look beyond works like Solaris which is a clever book, though not so great, and of the film adaptations one was dull and the other cheesy.
Translation - 
I'm American.
I don't like to think.
I am incapable of understanding the work of a genius like Andrei Tarkovsky.
Even the remake with Clooney didn't work for me because despite being shorter, I still had to think about it.
And there wasn't enough stuff being blown up.
By the way, I'm American so I'm allowed to say that.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28255875</id>
	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>CRCulver</author>
	<datestamp>1244453220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FWIW, I <em>am</em> a fan of Tarkovsky. I count <i>Andrei Rublev</i> and <i>Offret</i> among my favourite films. But I don't think <i>Solaris</i> was one of his better efforts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FWIW , I am a fan of Tarkovsky .
I count Andrei Rublev and Offret among my favourite films .
But I do n't think Solaris was one of his better efforts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FWIW, I am a fan of Tarkovsky.
I count Andrei Rublev and Offret among my favourite films.
But I don't think Solaris was one of his better efforts.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28254107</id>
	<title>A great book</title>
	<author>john57</author>
	<datestamp>1244490360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It probably was the only book which made me laugh while I read it, and made me scared when I finished reading it. Really worth checking it out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It probably was the only book which made me laugh while I read it , and made me scared when I finished reading it .
Really worth checking it out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It probably was the only book which made me laugh while I read it, and made me scared when I finished reading it.
Really worth checking it out.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28254787</id>
	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>melikamp</author>
	<datestamp>1244493240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yup. Another great book is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace\_on\_Earth\_(novel)" title="wikipedia.org">Peace on Earth</a> [wikipedia.org]. It is  about Ijon Tichy getting neck-deep into the intrigue involving remote-controlled dolls, cyborgs, automated warfare and strong AI, a bit reminiscent of GITS but even more philosophical. Love it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup .
Another great book is Peace on Earth [ wikipedia.org ] .
It is about Ijon Tichy getting neck-deep into the intrigue involving remote-controlled dolls , cyborgs , automated warfare and strong AI , a bit reminiscent of GITS but even more philosophical .
Love it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup.
Another great book is Peace on Earth [wikipedia.org].
It is  about Ijon Tichy getting neck-deep into the intrigue involving remote-controlled dolls, cyborgs, automated warfare and strong AI, a bit reminiscent of GITS but even more philosophical.
Love it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28257335</id>
	<title>Re:Seconded</title>
	<author>hguorbray</author>
	<datestamp>1244458440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Memoirs found in a bathtub is also my favorite</p><p>One of his most unusual ones however was:<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A\_Perfect\_Vacuum" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A\_Perfect\_Vacuum</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>which was a (Sometimes) hilarious reviews of non-existent  (and ridiculous) books -it was a sort of dig at post-modernism -almost 40 years ago....</p><p>I also liked return from the stars, and pirx the pilot was fun, lighter fare.</p><p>-I'm just sayin'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Memoirs found in a bathtub is also my favoriteOne of his most unusual ones however was : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A \ _Perfect \ _Vacuum [ wikipedia.org ] which was a ( Sometimes ) hilarious reviews of non-existent ( and ridiculous ) books -it was a sort of dig at post-modernism -almost 40 years ago....I also liked return from the stars , and pirx the pilot was fun , lighter fare.-I 'm just sayin'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Memoirs found in a bathtub is also my favoriteOne of his most unusual ones however was:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A\_Perfect\_Vacuum [wikipedia.org]which was a (Sometimes) hilarious reviews of non-existent  (and ridiculous) books -it was a sort of dig at post-modernism -almost 40 years ago....I also liked return from the stars, and pirx the pilot was fun, lighter fare.-I'm just sayin'</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28257007</id>
	<title>Summa Technologiae</title>
	<author>robi5</author>
	<datestamp>1244457180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Read <i>Summa Technologiae</i> (non-fiction) if you want to read about futurology forecasts that are very competitive with those of the current thought leaders - Ray Kurzweil, Hans Moravec, de Grey, Vinge, Vita-More, Gibson, Dennett, Hofstadter etc. - only making these in 1963 when the exponential growth and Moore's law (or the transistor!) were not common sense.  I would be interested in what topics other readers found interesting in this book.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Read Summa Technologiae ( non-fiction ) if you want to read about futurology forecasts that are very competitive with those of the current thought leaders - Ray Kurzweil , Hans Moravec , de Grey , Vinge , Vita-More , Gibson , Dennett , Hofstadter etc .
- only making these in 1963 when the exponential growth and Moore 's law ( or the transistor !
) were not common sense .
I would be interested in what topics other readers found interesting in this book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read Summa Technologiae (non-fiction) if you want to read about futurology forecasts that are very competitive with those of the current thought leaders - Ray Kurzweil, Hans Moravec, de Grey, Vinge, Vita-More, Gibson, Dennett, Hofstadter etc.
- only making these in 1963 when the exponential growth and Moore's law (or the transistor!
) were not common sense.
I would be interested in what topics other readers found interesting in this book.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28264337</id>
	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244556300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Learn Russian - more useful in the long term and you can still enjoy the books as Polish and Russian languages are so close that the Polish-Russian translation is mostly trivial and looses nothing in the process.</p></div><p>Of course if you don't mind the cyrylic alphabet<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Learn Russian - more useful in the long term and you can still enjoy the books as Polish and Russian languages are so close that the Polish-Russian translation is mostly trivial and looses nothing in the process.Of course if you do n't mind the cyrylic alphabet ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Learn Russian - more useful in the long term and you can still enjoy the books as Polish and Russian languages are so close that the Polish-Russian translation is mostly trivial and looses nothing in the process.Of course if you don't mind the cyrylic alphabet ;)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28264399</id>
	<title>False Happiness Doesn't Make Sense</title>
	<author>logicnazi</author>
	<datestamp>1244556660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So I haven't read this book so won't comment on it directly but the review at least brought up a pet peeve of mine: the idea that somehow it would be dystopian to 'hide' how bad life was by making us artificially happy.
<p>
This notion doesn't even really make sense.  Evolution has dictated that certain things make us happy and others make us sad but that doesn't mean there is something objectively reasonable about being happy when you have high social status and many mates and sad when you have few material resources.  Moreover, I think we should be particularly suspicious about the judgments we make when we see these scenarios in fiction (e.g. brave new world).  The problem is that we are extremely accustomed to infering things about people's mental states from their external circumstances so when that link is broken we are highly vulnerable to reaching the wrong conclusions.  For instance, to steal an example from Brave New World, despite being axiomatically told Soma makes people happy when we read about the people who take it we somehow assume they aren't 'really' happy.
</p><p>
I think a much more productive way to think about these situations is to instead imagine reacting to an alien society which behaved in such a manner and thereby stripping away many of our prejudices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So I have n't read this book so wo n't comment on it directly but the review at least brought up a pet peeve of mine : the idea that somehow it would be dystopian to 'hide ' how bad life was by making us artificially happy .
This notion does n't even really make sense .
Evolution has dictated that certain things make us happy and others make us sad but that does n't mean there is something objectively reasonable about being happy when you have high social status and many mates and sad when you have few material resources .
Moreover , I think we should be particularly suspicious about the judgments we make when we see these scenarios in fiction ( e.g .
brave new world ) .
The problem is that we are extremely accustomed to infering things about people 's mental states from their external circumstances so when that link is broken we are highly vulnerable to reaching the wrong conclusions .
For instance , to steal an example from Brave New World , despite being axiomatically told Soma makes people happy when we read about the people who take it we somehow assume they are n't 'really ' happy .
I think a much more productive way to think about these situations is to instead imagine reacting to an alien society which behaved in such a manner and thereby stripping away many of our prejudices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I haven't read this book so won't comment on it directly but the review at least brought up a pet peeve of mine: the idea that somehow it would be dystopian to 'hide' how bad life was by making us artificially happy.
This notion doesn't even really make sense.
Evolution has dictated that certain things make us happy and others make us sad but that doesn't mean there is something objectively reasonable about being happy when you have high social status and many mates and sad when you have few material resources.
Moreover, I think we should be particularly suspicious about the judgments we make when we see these scenarios in fiction (e.g.
brave new world).
The problem is that we are extremely accustomed to infering things about people's mental states from their external circumstances so when that link is broken we are highly vulnerable to reaching the wrong conclusions.
For instance, to steal an example from Brave New World, despite being axiomatically told Soma makes people happy when we read about the people who take it we somehow assume they aren't 'really' happy.
I think a much more productive way to think about these situations is to instead imagine reacting to an alien society which behaved in such a manner and thereby stripping away many of our prejudices.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28254171</id>
	<title>Hmmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244490660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oldest book review I can recall on Slashdot.  This book was published in 1971.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oldest book review I can recall on Slashdot .
This book was published in 1971 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oldest book review I can recall on Slashdot.
This book was published in 1971.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28255077</id>
	<title>Re:The great Lem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244494200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fuck me, Tarkovsky's <i>Solaris</i> was "dull"? What, not enough car chases for you?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fuck me , Tarkovsky 's Solaris was " dull " ?
What , not enough car chases for you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fuck me, Tarkovsky's Solaris was "dull"?
What, not enough car chases for you?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28264359</id>
	<title>Stanislaw Lem</title>
	<author>yoprst</author>
	<datestamp>1244556480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>was arguably the greatest science fiction writer would be more accurate, IMHO.</htmltext>
<tokenext>was arguably the greatest science fiction writer would be more accurate , IMHO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>was arguably the greatest science fiction writer would be more accurate, IMHO.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_1326233.28256679</id>
	<title>An inspiration for 'The Matrix'?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244455860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I first read Lem about twenty years ago and thought he was quite the under appreciated gem.  I last read 'The Futurological Congress' quite a while ago, perhaps 8 years or more, so my recollection is a little foggy.  However I think I recall wondering if 'The Matrix' had some initial inspiration there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I first read Lem about twenty years ago and thought he was quite the under appreciated gem .
I last read 'The Futurological Congress ' quite a while ago , perhaps 8 years or more , so my recollection is a little foggy .
However I think I recall wondering if 'The Matrix ' had some initial inspiration there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I first read Lem about twenty years ago and thought he was quite the under appreciated gem.
I last read 'The Futurological Congress' quite a while ago, perhaps 8 years or more, so my recollection is a little foggy.
However I think I recall wondering if 'The Matrix' had some initial inspiration there.</sentencetext>
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