<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_07_2044217</id>
	<title>Pirate Party Wins At Least One European Parliament Seat</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1244367840000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>reeeh2000 writes <i>"According to TorrentFreak, with half of polling stations now closed in Sweden, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate\_party">Pirate Party</a> has <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-wins-and-enters-the-european-parliament-090607/">at least one guaranteed seat in the EU Parliament</a>.  Currently, the party is sitting with 7\% of the vote.  Depending on how the remaining districts voted, the Pirate Party could win another seat, for a total of two."</i>

Reader lordholm adds a link to an article about <a href="http://www.dn.se/fordjupning/europa2009/piratpartisterna-pa-vag-in-i-eu-fi-nara-sparren-1.886384">exit polls in Sweden (link in Swedish)</a> indicating that the Pirate Party will score <em>two</em> seats, writing <i>"According to the polls, the pirate party is the largest party in the 18-30 year age category of voters. The final counting of votes (including around a million postal votes) will not be done until later next week."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>reeeh2000 writes " According to TorrentFreak , with half of polling stations now closed in Sweden , the Pirate Party has at least one guaranteed seat in the EU Parliament .
Currently , the party is sitting with 7 \ % of the vote .
Depending on how the remaining districts voted , the Pirate Party could win another seat , for a total of two .
" Reader lordholm adds a link to an article about exit polls in Sweden ( link in Swedish ) indicating that the Pirate Party will score two seats , writing " According to the polls , the pirate party is the largest party in the 18-30 year age category of voters .
The final counting of votes ( including around a million postal votes ) will not be done until later next week .
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<sentencetext>reeeh2000 writes "According to TorrentFreak, with half of polling stations now closed in Sweden, the Pirate Party has at least one guaranteed seat in the EU Parliament.
Currently, the party is sitting with 7\% of the vote.
Depending on how the remaining districts voted, the Pirate Party could win another seat, for a total of two.
"

Reader lordholm adds a link to an article about exit polls in Sweden (link in Swedish) indicating that the Pirate Party will score two seats, writing "According to the polls, the pirate party is the largest party in the 18-30 year age category of voters.
The final counting of votes (including around a million postal votes) will not be done until later next week.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245571</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244380800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't get your hopes up. Sweden is a noteworthy exception in Europe, most of the rest is basically stuck in a similar system the US "enjoy". Two almost impossible to distinguished "mass parties" sharing about 60-80\% of the seats in the parlaments, with some minor parties sprinkled in to make the whole thing a wee bit more interesting. And even this "interesting" part has been mostly eliminated with predetermined coalitions, basically reducing the whole multi-party system to a two-side system.</p><p>Don't worry, my friend, you're not much worse off than we are. Except the land of the free, Sweden.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't get your hopes up .
Sweden is a noteworthy exception in Europe , most of the rest is basically stuck in a similar system the US " enjoy " .
Two almost impossible to distinguished " mass parties " sharing about 60-80 \ % of the seats in the parlaments , with some minor parties sprinkled in to make the whole thing a wee bit more interesting .
And even this " interesting " part has been mostly eliminated with predetermined coalitions , basically reducing the whole multi-party system to a two-side system.Do n't worry , my friend , you 're not much worse off than we are .
Except the land of the free , Sweden .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't get your hopes up.
Sweden is a noteworthy exception in Europe, most of the rest is basically stuck in a similar system the US "enjoy".
Two almost impossible to distinguished "mass parties" sharing about 60-80\% of the seats in the parlaments, with some minor parties sprinkled in to make the whole thing a wee bit more interesting.
And even this "interesting" part has been mostly eliminated with predetermined coalitions, basically reducing the whole multi-party system to a two-side system.Don't worry, my friend, you're not much worse off than we are.
Except the land of the free, Sweden.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244611</id>
	<title>Great.  Anti-swpat MEPs</title>
	<author>H4x0r Jim Duggan</author>
	<datestamp>1244373120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Pirate Party have policies against software patents, so this is good news also in that respect.</p><p>Their voting weight will be small, but they can help make the group dynamics of the European Parliament more favourable to campaigners against software patents (much as the Greens did in 2002-2005, and still do).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Pirate Party have policies against software patents , so this is good news also in that respect.Their voting weight will be small , but they can help make the group dynamics of the European Parliament more favourable to campaigners against software patents ( much as the Greens did in 2002-2005 , and still do ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Pirate Party have policies against software patents, so this is good news also in that respect.Their voting weight will be small, but they can help make the group dynamics of the European Parliament more favourable to campaigners against software patents (much as the Greens did in 2002-2005, and still do).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28248419</id>
	<title>Re:Like Communists</title>
	<author>Ihlosi</author>
	<datestamp>1244454360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Ugh. How horrible. It's like seeing the Communists placing in the EU elections. Neither of them understand basic economics.</i> </p><p>Did you see the actual ballot? Compared to some of the parties on it (how about an "esoteric" party), the Commies seem downright sane.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ugh .
How horrible .
It 's like seeing the Communists placing in the EU elections .
Neither of them understand basic economics .
Did you see the actual ballot ?
Compared to some of the parties on it ( how about an " esoteric " party ) , the Commies seem downright sane .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ugh.
How horrible.
It's like seeing the Communists placing in the EU elections.
Neither of them understand basic economics.
Did you see the actual ballot?
Compared to some of the parties on it (how about an "esoteric" party), the Commies seem downright sane.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244789</id>
	<title>Re:German results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244374560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hi,</p><p>the pirate party reached in germany 0,9\%. Concerning lack of attention from the media, nearly non-existent funds and that <b>stupid name</b>, this is a very strong result for them.</p><p>CU, Martin</p></div><p>Guess who's going to be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi,the pirate party reached in germany 0,9 \ % .
Concerning lack of attention from the media , nearly non-existent funds and that stupid name , this is a very strong result for them.CU , MartinGuess who 's going to be the first against the wall when the revolution comes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi,the pirate party reached in germany 0,9\%.
Concerning lack of attention from the media, nearly non-existent funds and that stupid name, this is a very strong result for them.CU, MartinGuess who's going to be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244639</id>
	<title>More about the Swedish Pirate Party</title>
	<author>TorKlingberg</author>
	<datestamp>1244373240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Pirate Party has an English page <a href="http://www.piratpartiet.se/international/english" title="piratpartiet.se">here</a> [piratpartiet.se] that describes the basics. It has gained a lot of support after they, together with bloggers etc, managed to drum up public opposition to a wiretapping law, a law forcing ISPs to store traffic data, new copyright enforcement laws and the Pirate Bay trial. It has been growing since 2006 and spreads internationally, but this is the first parliamentary seat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Pirate Party has an English page here [ piratpartiet.se ] that describes the basics .
It has gained a lot of support after they , together with bloggers etc , managed to drum up public opposition to a wiretapping law , a law forcing ISPs to store traffic data , new copyright enforcement laws and the Pirate Bay trial .
It has been growing since 2006 and spreads internationally , but this is the first parliamentary seat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Pirate Party has an English page here [piratpartiet.se] that describes the basics.
It has gained a lot of support after they, together with bloggers etc, managed to drum up public opposition to a wiretapping law, a law forcing ISPs to store traffic data, new copyright enforcement laws and the Pirate Bay trial.
It has been growing since 2006 and spreads internationally, but this is the first parliamentary seat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28250401</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>ultranova</author>
	<datestamp>1244472720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>How does my copyright on the code that I write harm the public, culture and future history?</p></div> </blockquote><p>Any attempt to enforce that copyright requires monitoring and censoring communications between third parties, which means that any would-be dictator has ready-made tools of surveillance and censorship waiting for him, thus harming the public. Furthermore, limiting the number of copies in existence decreases the chances that at least one of them survives, thus making future historian's job that much harder. Finally, human culture evolves by taking ideas from other people, combining them and adding your own, and then passing the result onward to be used as raw material for the next iteration of the cycle. Copyright forbids this creation of derived works, which slows down the evolution of our culture.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How does my copyright on the code that I write harm the public , culture and future history ?
Any attempt to enforce that copyright requires monitoring and censoring communications between third parties , which means that any would-be dictator has ready-made tools of surveillance and censorship waiting for him , thus harming the public .
Furthermore , limiting the number of copies in existence decreases the chances that at least one of them survives , thus making future historian 's job that much harder .
Finally , human culture evolves by taking ideas from other people , combining them and adding your own , and then passing the result onward to be used as raw material for the next iteration of the cycle .
Copyright forbids this creation of derived works , which slows down the evolution of our culture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How does my copyright on the code that I write harm the public, culture and future history?
Any attempt to enforce that copyright requires monitoring and censoring communications between third parties, which means that any would-be dictator has ready-made tools of surveillance and censorship waiting for him, thus harming the public.
Furthermore, limiting the number of copies in existence decreases the chances that at least one of them survives, thus making future historian's job that much harder.
Finally, human culture evolves by taking ideas from other people, combining them and adding your own, and then passing the result onward to be used as raw material for the next iteration of the cycle.
Copyright forbids this creation of derived works, which slows down the evolution of our culture.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244551</id>
	<title>I can't believe how cow handed the</title>
	<author>Presto Vivace</author>
	<datestamp>1244372580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>entertainment industry has been. <a href="http://technoflak.blogspot.com/2009/04/conflating-free-speech-with-free-beer.html" title="blogspot.com">There is a better way to handle this.</a> [blogspot.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>entertainment industry has been .
There is a better way to handle this .
[ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>entertainment industry has been.
There is a better way to handle this.
[blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244809</id>
	<title>Like Communists</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244374740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ugh.  How horrible.  It's like seeing the Communists placing in the EU elections.  Neither of them understand basic economics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ugh .
How horrible .
It 's like seeing the Communists placing in the EU elections .
Neither of them understand basic economics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ugh.
How horrible.
It's like seeing the Communists placing in the EU elections.
Neither of them understand basic economics.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28247243</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>Kavorkian\_scarf</author>
	<datestamp>1244397720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You are a close minded idiot. While the name of the party is quite ridiculous, and the truth of the matter is that piracy is more or less the scourge of media in any form, why don't you look instead at the bigger picture?
Thy don't you look at the potential ramifications of misguided laws regarding digital freedoms? The encroachment upon the liberties that are in jepordy because of governments being bribed and mislead by giant multinationals?
You talk about the Pirate Party as though it simply advocates copyright infringement and does nothing besides.
What if the party was named "We Love kitties and capitalism in all forms" party? Would you assume it is a party for the ethical treatment of baby felines and money grubbing whores? Its a name, so it sums up nothing about the party, all it does is grab attention and pique curiosity.
Shut your miss-informed ignorant mouth before something bad happens to you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are a close minded idiot .
While the name of the party is quite ridiculous , and the truth of the matter is that piracy is more or less the scourge of media in any form , why do n't you look instead at the bigger picture ?
Thy do n't you look at the potential ramifications of misguided laws regarding digital freedoms ?
The encroachment upon the liberties that are in jepordy because of governments being bribed and mislead by giant multinationals ?
You talk about the Pirate Party as though it simply advocates copyright infringement and does nothing besides .
What if the party was named " We Love kitties and capitalism in all forms " party ?
Would you assume it is a party for the ethical treatment of baby felines and money grubbing whores ?
Its a name , so it sums up nothing about the party , all it does is grab attention and pique curiosity .
Shut your miss-informed ignorant mouth before something bad happens to you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are a close minded idiot.
While the name of the party is quite ridiculous, and the truth of the matter is that piracy is more or less the scourge of media in any form, why don't you look instead at the bigger picture?
Thy don't you look at the potential ramifications of misguided laws regarding digital freedoms?
The encroachment upon the liberties that are in jepordy because of governments being bribed and mislead by giant multinationals?
You talk about the Pirate Party as though it simply advocates copyright infringement and does nothing besides.
What if the party was named "We Love kitties and capitalism in all forms" party?
Would you assume it is a party for the ethical treatment of baby felines and money grubbing whores?
Its a name, so it sums up nothing about the party, all it does is grab attention and pique curiosity.
Shut your miss-informed ignorant mouth before something bad happens to you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245731</id>
	<title>Re:German results</title>
	<author>lavalyn</author>
	<datestamp>1244381940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A better name than the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official\_Monster\_Raving\_Loony\_Party" title="wikipedia.org">Official Monster Raving Loony Party</a> [wikipedia.org] of the UK.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A better name than the Official Monster Raving Loony Party [ wikipedia.org ] of the UK .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A better name than the Official Monster Raving Loony Party [wikipedia.org] of the UK.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28251861</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244480280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is a socialist going to balance the American equation?  Our government is the biggest it's ever been!  We need people to come in and start shrinking the government!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is a socialist going to balance the American equation ?
Our government is the biggest it 's ever been !
We need people to come in and start shrinking the government !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is a socialist going to balance the American equation?
Our government is the biggest it's ever been!
We need people to come in and start shrinking the government!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28249757</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244469120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It'd be nice if we had some capitalists too.</p><p>Yes, you read that right. Federal protection of private interests is hardly "capitalist," regardless of what some claim.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'd be nice if we had some capitalists too.Yes , you read that right .
Federal protection of private interests is hardly " capitalist , " regardless of what some claim .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'd be nice if we had some capitalists too.Yes, you read that right.
Federal protection of private interests is hardly "capitalist," regardless of what some claim.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28249547</id>
	<title>It is a matter of choice</title>
	<author>bestalexguy</author>
	<datestamp>1244467380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A) Big movies productions<br>
B) Citizens' privacy &amp; offense/punishment balance<br> <br>

Sadly, these two are mutually exclusive. I opt to save B.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A ) Big movies productions B ) Citizens ' privacy &amp; offense/punishment balance Sadly , these two are mutually exclusive .
I opt to save B .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A) Big movies productions
B) Citizens' privacy &amp; offense/punishment balance 

Sadly, these two are mutually exclusive.
I opt to save B.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28247095</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>patro</author>
	<datestamp>1244395680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That's what you get with a single party system, my friends. And no, this is not a typo - Dems and Repubs are pretty much the same party with minor variations.</p></div><p>Why don't you start a revolution then?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what you get with a single party system , my friends .
And no , this is not a typo - Dems and Repubs are pretty much the same party with minor variations.Why do n't you start a revolution then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what you get with a single party system, my friends.
And no, this is not a typo - Dems and Repubs are pretty much the same party with minor variations.Why don't you start a revolution then?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245511</id>
	<title>Re:Pirate party for every country!</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1244380260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a movement in the EU that you should be allowed to vote for "foreign" parties. I sure hope this will pass.</p><p>No PP in my country either (well, there is one, but they chose not to run, knowing they would only strengthen the right wing by "siphoning" away votes from other left-liberal parties). I did vote, I voted for the liberals, who, in turn, didn't earn enough votes to gain a seat.</p><p>My country is fairly conservative. If you're an established party, you get votes. If you're not, don't even try. It's hopeless. So I do hope I may eventually be allowed to vote for parties outside my country that represent me.</p><p>Yes, I know how sad that sounds. It's even sadder than it sounds, people...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a movement in the EU that you should be allowed to vote for " foreign " parties .
I sure hope this will pass.No PP in my country either ( well , there is one , but they chose not to run , knowing they would only strengthen the right wing by " siphoning " away votes from other left-liberal parties ) .
I did vote , I voted for the liberals , who , in turn , did n't earn enough votes to gain a seat.My country is fairly conservative .
If you 're an established party , you get votes .
If you 're not , do n't even try .
It 's hopeless .
So I do hope I may eventually be allowed to vote for parties outside my country that represent me.Yes , I know how sad that sounds .
It 's even sadder than it sounds , people.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a movement in the EU that you should be allowed to vote for "foreign" parties.
I sure hope this will pass.No PP in my country either (well, there is one, but they chose not to run, knowing they would only strengthen the right wing by "siphoning" away votes from other left-liberal parties).
I did vote, I voted for the liberals, who, in turn, didn't earn enough votes to gain a seat.My country is fairly conservative.
If you're an established party, you get votes.
If you're not, don't even try.
It's hopeless.
So I do hope I may eventually be allowed to vote for parties outside my country that represent me.Yes, I know how sad that sounds.
It's even sadder than it sounds, people...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28247127</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>erroneus</author>
	<datestamp>1244396040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"shit for free"?  Hardly.  I buy quite regularly when it suits my interests.  I love the trend of putting TV shows on DVD.  I have lots of those series collections.  If a movie is good enough, I will buy it and put it on the shelf as well.  I don't think there is a single person here who wouldn't prefer to have legitimate copies of their favorite things.</p><p>In your Disney example, you suggest that it is reasonable for Disney to have their copyright extended because the MEDIUM has changed or it has been digitally enhanced or some such thing?  By that argument, books could also qualify for this by changing the font.  Disney made their money and once they have done so, the other side of the copyright agreement should kick in -- it should go to public domain.  The first part of the agreement is that the copyright owner and licensed publishers should enjoy protection under law against unauthorized commercial distribution for a limited time.  Once that time expires, it's public domain.  I'm guessing you don't have a problem with the first part of the agreement.  What is your problem with the second?  It has been thwarted and prevented at every turn to the detriment of the public.  And it's nice that you bring Disney up.  The original Mickey Mouse cartoons should now be in public domain.  And the politically incorrect "Song of the South" (you know the one with the ever famous Zippidy do dah song?) will NEVER be published again and will be gone forever simply to save Disney's face on the matter.  I have unauthorized DVD copies of this famous work simply because it is too good to let it die even if Disney would prefer that it did.</p><p>This ability to effectively withdraw a published work from the public and preventing it from ever being available by the time the copyright expires is a feature of copyright that was never intended by the lawmakers since the equitable agreement should be that the works become owned by all.  (There is nothing to own if the work has died and ceased circulation some 80+ years prior!)  Our very human legacy of art is indeed at risk simply because someone wants to collect money from work that someone else did more than 50 years prior.  It's all quite insane when you think about it.</p><p>Interesting aside: There was a political parody put out some time ago that used the song "This land is your land, this land is my land" and the political speech was attacked on the grounds that it infringed on copyright.  That song had passed into the public domain and yet copyright law was being used to assault political speech -- our most precious first amendment.  The government and copyright holders know too well that copyright law is a weapon and that they can, will and have in the past [ab]used it to harm the public.</p><p>Yes, the "pirate party" does deserve a place in government to balance out the out of control nonsense that has occurred so far.</p><p>Disney doesn't "work" to get copyright extended, by the way... they pay lobbyists who in turn do all sorts of questionable and corrupt things to influence government to do their bidding.  But seriously, if you don't see the harm abuse of copyright law is doing, you haven't been paying attention.  The Church of Scientology often uses copyright at a weapon against people who criticise what they do.  And in my previous example of political speech being threatened using copyright law.  There have been innocent people forced into settling with the RIAA because they couldn't afford to defend themselves in court.  Teenagers have been forced to quit school due to their practices.  (Please, let's not do the guilty until proven innocent crap -- are you American?  You can't be stupid enough to believe that simply being innocent is enough of a defense.  You have to be able to PAY to defend yourself and average people simply can't afford that kind of "pride.")</p><p>Copyright law and especially prosecution was designed to prevent unauthorized publishers and distributors from profiting.  It was not designed to attack individual people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" shit for free " ?
Hardly. I buy quite regularly when it suits my interests .
I love the trend of putting TV shows on DVD .
I have lots of those series collections .
If a movie is good enough , I will buy it and put it on the shelf as well .
I do n't think there is a single person here who would n't prefer to have legitimate copies of their favorite things.In your Disney example , you suggest that it is reasonable for Disney to have their copyright extended because the MEDIUM has changed or it has been digitally enhanced or some such thing ?
By that argument , books could also qualify for this by changing the font .
Disney made their money and once they have done so , the other side of the copyright agreement should kick in -- it should go to public domain .
The first part of the agreement is that the copyright owner and licensed publishers should enjoy protection under law against unauthorized commercial distribution for a limited time .
Once that time expires , it 's public domain .
I 'm guessing you do n't have a problem with the first part of the agreement .
What is your problem with the second ?
It has been thwarted and prevented at every turn to the detriment of the public .
And it 's nice that you bring Disney up .
The original Mickey Mouse cartoons should now be in public domain .
And the politically incorrect " Song of the South " ( you know the one with the ever famous Zippidy do dah song ?
) will NEVER be published again and will be gone forever simply to save Disney 's face on the matter .
I have unauthorized DVD copies of this famous work simply because it is too good to let it die even if Disney would prefer that it did.This ability to effectively withdraw a published work from the public and preventing it from ever being available by the time the copyright expires is a feature of copyright that was never intended by the lawmakers since the equitable agreement should be that the works become owned by all .
( There is nothing to own if the work has died and ceased circulation some 80 + years prior !
) Our very human legacy of art is indeed at risk simply because someone wants to collect money from work that someone else did more than 50 years prior .
It 's all quite insane when you think about it.Interesting aside : There was a political parody put out some time ago that used the song " This land is your land , this land is my land " and the political speech was attacked on the grounds that it infringed on copyright .
That song had passed into the public domain and yet copyright law was being used to assault political speech -- our most precious first amendment .
The government and copyright holders know too well that copyright law is a weapon and that they can , will and have in the past [ ab ] used it to harm the public.Yes , the " pirate party " does deserve a place in government to balance out the out of control nonsense that has occurred so far.Disney does n't " work " to get copyright extended , by the way... they pay lobbyists who in turn do all sorts of questionable and corrupt things to influence government to do their bidding .
But seriously , if you do n't see the harm abuse of copyright law is doing , you have n't been paying attention .
The Church of Scientology often uses copyright at a weapon against people who criticise what they do .
And in my previous example of political speech being threatened using copyright law .
There have been innocent people forced into settling with the RIAA because they could n't afford to defend themselves in court .
Teenagers have been forced to quit school due to their practices .
( Please , let 's not do the guilty until proven innocent crap -- are you American ?
You ca n't be stupid enough to believe that simply being innocent is enough of a defense .
You have to be able to PAY to defend yourself and average people simply ca n't afford that kind of " pride .
" ) Copyright law and especially prosecution was designed to prevent unauthorized publishers and distributors from profiting .
It was not designed to attack individual people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"shit for free"?
Hardly.  I buy quite regularly when it suits my interests.
I love the trend of putting TV shows on DVD.
I have lots of those series collections.
If a movie is good enough, I will buy it and put it on the shelf as well.
I don't think there is a single person here who wouldn't prefer to have legitimate copies of their favorite things.In your Disney example, you suggest that it is reasonable for Disney to have their copyright extended because the MEDIUM has changed or it has been digitally enhanced or some such thing?
By that argument, books could also qualify for this by changing the font.
Disney made their money and once they have done so, the other side of the copyright agreement should kick in -- it should go to public domain.
The first part of the agreement is that the copyright owner and licensed publishers should enjoy protection under law against unauthorized commercial distribution for a limited time.
Once that time expires, it's public domain.
I'm guessing you don't have a problem with the first part of the agreement.
What is your problem with the second?
It has been thwarted and prevented at every turn to the detriment of the public.
And it's nice that you bring Disney up.
The original Mickey Mouse cartoons should now be in public domain.
And the politically incorrect "Song of the South" (you know the one with the ever famous Zippidy do dah song?
) will NEVER be published again and will be gone forever simply to save Disney's face on the matter.
I have unauthorized DVD copies of this famous work simply because it is too good to let it die even if Disney would prefer that it did.This ability to effectively withdraw a published work from the public and preventing it from ever being available by the time the copyright expires is a feature of copyright that was never intended by the lawmakers since the equitable agreement should be that the works become owned by all.
(There is nothing to own if the work has died and ceased circulation some 80+ years prior!
)  Our very human legacy of art is indeed at risk simply because someone wants to collect money from work that someone else did more than 50 years prior.
It's all quite insane when you think about it.Interesting aside: There was a political parody put out some time ago that used the song "This land is your land, this land is my land" and the political speech was attacked on the grounds that it infringed on copyright.
That song had passed into the public domain and yet copyright law was being used to assault political speech -- our most precious first amendment.
The government and copyright holders know too well that copyright law is a weapon and that they can, will and have in the past [ab]used it to harm the public.Yes, the "pirate party" does deserve a place in government to balance out the out of control nonsense that has occurred so far.Disney doesn't "work" to get copyright extended, by the way... they pay lobbyists who in turn do all sorts of questionable and corrupt things to influence government to do their bidding.
But seriously, if you don't see the harm abuse of copyright law is doing, you haven't been paying attention.
The Church of Scientology often uses copyright at a weapon against people who criticise what they do.
And in my previous example of political speech being threatened using copyright law.
There have been innocent people forced into settling with the RIAA because they couldn't afford to defend themselves in court.
Teenagers have been forced to quit school due to their practices.
(Please, let's not do the guilty until proven innocent crap -- are you American?
You can't be stupid enough to believe that simply being innocent is enough of a defense.
You have to be able to PAY to defend yourself and average people simply can't afford that kind of "pride.
")Copyright law and especially prosecution was designed to prevent unauthorized publishers and distributors from profiting.
It was not designed to attack individual people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28249211</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244464080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We need a raving, rabid, card carrying socialists to balance the equation somewhat on this side of the pond.</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=bernie+sanders" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=bernie+sanders</a> [google.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We need a raving , rabid , card carrying socialists to balance the equation somewhat on this side of the pond .
http : //www.google.com/search ? q = bernie + sanders [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We need a raving, rabid, card carrying socialists to balance the equation somewhat on this side of the pond.
http://www.google.com/search?q=bernie+sanders [google.com]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244521</id>
	<title>Arrr!</title>
	<author>mcvos</author>
	<datestamp>1244372340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great news! Unfortunately I couldn't vote for them, but just before the elections, I noticed that the number 4 candidate on the list of the Dutch party GroenLinks has practically the same ideas (and priorities) as the Pirate Party. I voted for him, but unfortunately GroenLinks only got 3 seats (which is still a pretty good result).</p><p>Of course these parties are still a tiny minority in the Europarliament, but if they can explain to their colleagues what's so wrong about current IP laws, they might end up having some very real impact.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great news !
Unfortunately I could n't vote for them , but just before the elections , I noticed that the number 4 candidate on the list of the Dutch party GroenLinks has practically the same ideas ( and priorities ) as the Pirate Party .
I voted for him , but unfortunately GroenLinks only got 3 seats ( which is still a pretty good result ) .Of course these parties are still a tiny minority in the Europarliament , but if they can explain to their colleagues what 's so wrong about current IP laws , they might end up having some very real impact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great news!
Unfortunately I couldn't vote for them, but just before the elections, I noticed that the number 4 candidate on the list of the Dutch party GroenLinks has practically the same ideas (and priorities) as the Pirate Party.
I voted for him, but unfortunately GroenLinks only got 3 seats (which is still a pretty good result).Of course these parties are still a tiny minority in the Europarliament, but if they can explain to their colleagues what's so wrong about current IP laws, they might end up having some very real impact.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244457</id>
	<title>Are  they a one-issue party?</title>
	<author>e9th</author>
	<datestamp>1244371980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does the Pirate Party platform include issues besides copyright/privacy?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does the Pirate Party platform include issues besides copyright/privacy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the Pirate Party platform include issues besides copyright/privacy?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28247189</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>MrMista\_B</author>
	<datestamp>1244396880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The USA isn't a democracy, and has never been a democracy at any time in it's history, ever.</p><p>The USA is a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/republic/.</p><p>People who claim the USA is a democracy are<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/always wrong/.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/pet peeve</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The USA is n't a democracy , and has never been a democracy at any time in it 's history , ever.The USA is a /republic/.People who claim the USA is a democracy are /always wrong/ .
/pet peeve</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The USA isn't a democracy, and has never been a democracy at any time in it's history, ever.The USA is a /republic/.People who claim the USA is a democracy are /always wrong/.
/pet peeve</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28250167</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244471580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you build a great new Thingamabob software, and copyright it, and don't license it via a free software license like GPL or BSD, then anyone else trying to build a better Thingamabob must somehow acquire an equivalent of your Thingamabob.  They either have to buy it from you, or spend the time and effort to build one of their own. Unless your terms for purchasing the code and distribution rights on your Thingamabob are very reasonable, they'll likely try to build one. And this means that programmer effort that could have been used building a better Thingamabob must now be spent replicating your work. Thus, Thingamabob technology improves slower than it would without the copyright.</p><p>Of course, without any copyrights, you probably would have less motivation for building a Thingamabob in the first place. That's why there's a need to strike a balance between having enough copyright protection to make it worth your while, and enough public domain so that there can be development over time. The problem is that right now copyright protection is for somewhere around 150 years, so we've shoved the pendulum too far to the side of making your work worthwhile.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you build a great new Thingamabob software , and copyright it , and do n't license it via a free software license like GPL or BSD , then anyone else trying to build a better Thingamabob must somehow acquire an equivalent of your Thingamabob .
They either have to buy it from you , or spend the time and effort to build one of their own .
Unless your terms for purchasing the code and distribution rights on your Thingamabob are very reasonable , they 'll likely try to build one .
And this means that programmer effort that could have been used building a better Thingamabob must now be spent replicating your work .
Thus , Thingamabob technology improves slower than it would without the copyright.Of course , without any copyrights , you probably would have less motivation for building a Thingamabob in the first place .
That 's why there 's a need to strike a balance between having enough copyright protection to make it worth your while , and enough public domain so that there can be development over time .
The problem is that right now copyright protection is for somewhere around 150 years , so we 've shoved the pendulum too far to the side of making your work worthwhile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you build a great new Thingamabob software, and copyright it, and don't license it via a free software license like GPL or BSD, then anyone else trying to build a better Thingamabob must somehow acquire an equivalent of your Thingamabob.
They either have to buy it from you, or spend the time and effort to build one of their own.
Unless your terms for purchasing the code and distribution rights on your Thingamabob are very reasonable, they'll likely try to build one.
And this means that programmer effort that could have been used building a better Thingamabob must now be spent replicating your work.
Thus, Thingamabob technology improves slower than it would without the copyright.Of course, without any copyrights, you probably would have less motivation for building a Thingamabob in the first place.
That's why there's a need to strike a balance between having enough copyright protection to make it worth your while, and enough public domain so that there can be development over time.
The problem is that right now copyright protection is for somewhere around 150 years, so we've shoved the pendulum too far to the side of making your work worthwhile.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28248829</id>
	<title>Re:Arrr!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244459460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm currently wondering how we could bring the Pirate Party to The Netherlands.. I too could unfortunately not vote for them.</p><p>Wish I knew anything about political parties, how they're started, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm currently wondering how we could bring the Pirate Party to The Netherlands.. I too could unfortunately not vote for them.Wish I knew anything about political parties , how they 're started , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm currently wondering how we could bring the Pirate Party to The Netherlands.. I too could unfortunately not vote for them.Wish I knew anything about political parties, how they're started, etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245449</id>
	<title>Re:Are they a one-issue party?</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1244379720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Considering what else is "offered", I'd say that can already be far more than enough to get my vote.</p><p>Let's be honest here, when I peruse our political parties and their agendas... yes, it would be enough to get my vote. At least it's something I support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering what else is " offered " , I 'd say that can already be far more than enough to get my vote.Let 's be honest here , when I peruse our political parties and their agendas... yes , it would be enough to get my vote .
At least it 's something I support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering what else is "offered", I'd say that can already be far more than enough to get my vote.Let's be honest here, when I peruse our political parties and their agendas... yes, it would be enough to get my vote.
At least it's something I support.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244685</id>
	<title>The pirates like FOSS</title>
	<author>CHJacobsen</author>
	<datestamp>1244373660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It might be interesting for slashdotters to know that the top-candidate of the Pirate Party is a free-software contributor, and has been working a lot previously to establish open standards and to fight software patents.</p><p>Their success might turn out to be an asset for free software as well as integrity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It might be interesting for slashdotters to know that the top-candidate of the Pirate Party is a free-software contributor , and has been working a lot previously to establish open standards and to fight software patents.Their success might turn out to be an asset for free software as well as integrity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It might be interesting for slashdotters to know that the top-candidate of the Pirate Party is a free-software contributor, and has been working a lot previously to establish open standards and to fight software patents.Their success might turn out to be an asset for free software as well as integrity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28248357</id>
	<title>in belgium</title>
	<author>KingBenny</author>
	<datestamp>1244453640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>it didnt even get a chance to be voted on, either my fellow citizens are lazy idiots, or the other parties denied yet another new party its existence<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... i was thinking about moving to France, but Sweden is starting to look more attractive</htmltext>
<tokenext>it didnt even get a chance to be voted on , either my fellow citizens are lazy idiots , or the other parties denied yet another new party its existence ... i was thinking about moving to France , but Sweden is starting to look more attractive</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it didnt even get a chance to be voted on, either my fellow citizens are lazy idiots, or the other parties denied yet another new party its existence ... i was thinking about moving to France, but Sweden is starting to look more attractive</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28249819</id>
	<title>landlubbers aint got nothin on us pirates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244469480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>YARRRR YA SWABS</htmltext>
<tokenext>YARRRR YA SWABS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>YARRRR YA SWABS</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244899</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1244375280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It now harms the public, culture and future-history in its present form and should be balanced with the interests of the individual. We need a "Pirate Party" in the U.S... or at least a body like the EFF or ACLU or something like that. (NYCL? Is that your calling?)</p></div></blockquote><p>Give an example of the "harm" it has done.  Meanwhile, you're the one advocating not paying artists for their work, which is more harmful than Disney having the rights to friggin' Mickey Mouse.  That you actually think something called the PIRATE party deserves a place in government is scary.</p><p>Face it.  Copyright owners deserve to be able to make money off their work.  If Disney works to get copyright extended, it's simply because the technology of entertainment has changed so that people still make money off of works from decades prior, and the laws have changed to accommodate it.</p><p>All you want is to get shit for free, like other Slashdotters.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Any arguments about freedom or economic harm are mental justifications you use in your mind so that you don't feel like a bad guy when you pirate somebody's hard work.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It now harms the public , culture and future-history in its present form and should be balanced with the interests of the individual .
We need a " Pirate Party " in the U.S... or at least a body like the EFF or ACLU or something like that .
( NYCL ? Is that your calling ?
) Give an example of the " harm " it has done .
Meanwhile , you 're the one advocating not paying artists for their work , which is more harmful than Disney having the rights to friggin ' Mickey Mouse .
That you actually think something called the PIRATE party deserves a place in government is scary.Face it .
Copyright owners deserve to be able to make money off their work .
If Disney works to get copyright extended , it 's simply because the technology of entertainment has changed so that people still make money off of works from decades prior , and the laws have changed to accommodate it.All you want is to get shit for free , like other Slashdotters .
Nothing more , nothing less .
Any arguments about freedom or economic harm are mental justifications you use in your mind so that you do n't feel like a bad guy when you pirate somebody 's hard work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It now harms the public, culture and future-history in its present form and should be balanced with the interests of the individual.
We need a "Pirate Party" in the U.S... or at least a body like the EFF or ACLU or something like that.
(NYCL? Is that your calling?
)Give an example of the "harm" it has done.
Meanwhile, you're the one advocating not paying artists for their work, which is more harmful than Disney having the rights to friggin' Mickey Mouse.
That you actually think something called the PIRATE party deserves a place in government is scary.Face it.
Copyright owners deserve to be able to make money off their work.
If Disney works to get copyright extended, it's simply because the technology of entertainment has changed so that people still make money off of works from decades prior, and the laws have changed to accommodate it.All you want is to get shit for free, like other Slashdotters.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Any arguments about freedom or economic harm are mental justifications you use in your mind so that you don't feel like a bad guy when you pirate somebody's hard work.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244807</id>
	<title>Re:Final results.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244374680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Postal votes haven't been counted yet.<br>99.9\% of today's votes have been counted.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Postal votes have n't been counted yet.99.9 \ % of today 's votes have been counted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Postal votes haven't been counted yet.99.9\% of today's votes have been counted.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28249003</id>
	<title>Terminology and file sharing</title>
	<author>viking80</author>
	<datestamp>1244461380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I write the ip stacks on many of the routers in use. The main instruction used is COPY(). When many of these routers are wired, it might as well be called a COPY instead of a network. And the internet is basically just "The Intercopy"</p><p>This may educate people that equates filesharing with "stealing", and companies planning some DRM scheme; Anything that is connected to the big Intercopy is copied. It is in the nature or the big Intecopy to do this.</p><p>Trying to change this fact with laws and technology is like trying to stop soundwaves from an outdoor concert to not reach anyone who did not sign the purchase agreement.</p><p>If you don't want your music to be in the public, don't perform in the public. If you don't want your movies copied, don't perform on the intercopy (or internet). simple as that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I write the ip stacks on many of the routers in use .
The main instruction used is COPY ( ) .
When many of these routers are wired , it might as well be called a COPY instead of a network .
And the internet is basically just " The Intercopy " This may educate people that equates filesharing with " stealing " , and companies planning some DRM scheme ; Anything that is connected to the big Intercopy is copied .
It is in the nature or the big Intecopy to do this.Trying to change this fact with laws and technology is like trying to stop soundwaves from an outdoor concert to not reach anyone who did not sign the purchase agreement.If you do n't want your music to be in the public , do n't perform in the public .
If you do n't want your movies copied , do n't perform on the intercopy ( or internet ) .
simple as that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I write the ip stacks on many of the routers in use.
The main instruction used is COPY().
When many of these routers are wired, it might as well be called a COPY instead of a network.
And the internet is basically just "The Intercopy"This may educate people that equates filesharing with "stealing", and companies planning some DRM scheme; Anything that is connected to the big Intercopy is copied.
It is in the nature or the big Intecopy to do this.Trying to change this fact with laws and technology is like trying to stop soundwaves from an outdoor concert to not reach anyone who did not sign the purchase agreement.If you don't want your music to be in the public, don't perform in the public.
If you don't want your movies copied, don't perform on the intercopy (or internet).
simple as that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28256855</id>
	<title>At long last</title>
	<author>Verdatum</author>
	<datestamp>1244456520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Take THAT Ninja Party!!!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Take THAT Ninja Party ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take THAT Ninja Party!!!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245187</id>
	<title>By The Numbers</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1244377440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are 736 members in the European Parliament.</p><p> 200 more than the US Congress. It all seems a little unwieldy. Difficult to make an impression.</p><p>The median age:</p><p> Sweden 41 US 37 <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sw.html" title="cia.gov">CIA World Fact Book</a> [cia.gov] </p><p><i>Reality shows are the most successfully exported European television programmes, notably to the United States.</i></p><p><i><br>Programmes such as Survivor - produced by British-Swedish company Planet 24 and which has contestants competing in the wilderness for cash and other prizes, Big Brother of the Netherlands' Endemol - where a group of people live together in a house isolated from the outside world while constantly watched by cameras, and British 19 Television's Pop Idol - a show for music star wannabes, have become massively popular with American viewers.</i></p><p><i><br>Under EU rules, the majority of the European channels' programming must be devoted to European works, with at least 10 percent of that time or of their programming budgets to independent European productions.</i></p><p><i><br>Currently, certain channels in eight EU member states - Belgium, Estonia, Ireland, Italy, Poland, Romania, Sweden and the UK - still do not comply with these requirements however, and European productions account for less than 50 percent of their programming.</i> </p><p> <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/may2009/gb20090529\_761542.htm?chan=globalbiz\_europe+index+page\_top+stories" title="businessweek.com">Europe's Biggest TV Export: Reality Shows</a> [businessweek.com] [May 29}</p><p>This suggests to me that support for piracy is strongest where support for the politically-mandated domestic product is weakest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are 736 members in the European Parliament .
200 more than the US Congress .
It all seems a little unwieldy .
Difficult to make an impression.The median age : Sweden 41 US 37 CIA World Fact Book [ cia.gov ] Reality shows are the most successfully exported European television programmes , notably to the United States.Programmes such as Survivor - produced by British-Swedish company Planet 24 and which has contestants competing in the wilderness for cash and other prizes , Big Brother of the Netherlands ' Endemol - where a group of people live together in a house isolated from the outside world while constantly watched by cameras , and British 19 Television 's Pop Idol - a show for music star wannabes , have become massively popular with American viewers.Under EU rules , the majority of the European channels ' programming must be devoted to European works , with at least 10 percent of that time or of their programming budgets to independent European productions.Currently , certain channels in eight EU member states - Belgium , Estonia , Ireland , Italy , Poland , Romania , Sweden and the UK - still do not comply with these requirements however , and European productions account for less than 50 percent of their programming .
Europe 's Biggest TV Export : Reality Shows [ businessweek.com ] [ May 29 } This suggests to me that support for piracy is strongest where support for the politically-mandated domestic product is weakest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are 736 members in the European Parliament.
200 more than the US Congress.
It all seems a little unwieldy.
Difficult to make an impression.The median age: Sweden 41 US 37 CIA World Fact Book [cia.gov] Reality shows are the most successfully exported European television programmes, notably to the United States.Programmes such as Survivor - produced by British-Swedish company Planet 24 and which has contestants competing in the wilderness for cash and other prizes, Big Brother of the Netherlands' Endemol - where a group of people live together in a house isolated from the outside world while constantly watched by cameras, and British 19 Television's Pop Idol - a show for music star wannabes, have become massively popular with American viewers.Under EU rules, the majority of the European channels' programming must be devoted to European works, with at least 10 percent of that time or of their programming budgets to independent European productions.Currently, certain channels in eight EU member states - Belgium, Estonia, Ireland, Italy, Poland, Romania, Sweden and the UK - still do not comply with these requirements however, and European productions account for less than 50 percent of their programming.
Europe's Biggest TV Export: Reality Shows [businessweek.com] [May 29}This suggests to me that support for piracy is strongest where support for the politically-mandated domestic product is weakest.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245533</id>
	<title>Re:German results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244380500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I voted blank in the Danish election, simply because there were no parties even mentioning these issues.<br>We do have a pirate party in Denmark, but they didn't manage to collect the about 70k signatures (two percent of the registered voters) required to appear on the ballots.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I voted blank in the Danish election , simply because there were no parties even mentioning these issues.We do have a pirate party in Denmark , but they did n't manage to collect the about 70k signatures ( two percent of the registered voters ) required to appear on the ballots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I voted blank in the Danish election, simply because there were no parties even mentioning these issues.We do have a pirate party in Denmark, but they didn't manage to collect the about 70k signatures (two percent of the registered voters) required to appear on the ballots.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28249097</id>
	<title>Re:Why does that work in Sweden?</title>
	<author>HonIsCool</author>
	<datestamp>1244462580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Pirate Party probably brought out a lot of people (mostly young males) who wouldn't otherwise vote. The voter turnout in Sweden was something like 43\%, which is atrocious but still in the top of Europe, and higher than last EU election. Then there is also the case that the right-wing party, the Sweden Democrats, got something like 3.3\% of the votes, which is not so far from the limit (4\%?). Had the Pirate Party not existed, most likely SD would have gotten more votes and made it into the parlimant, perhaps even by a large margin. So I wouldn't say Sweden is exactly inoculated...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Pirate Party probably brought out a lot of people ( mostly young males ) who would n't otherwise vote .
The voter turnout in Sweden was something like 43 \ % , which is atrocious but still in the top of Europe , and higher than last EU election .
Then there is also the case that the right-wing party , the Sweden Democrats , got something like 3.3 \ % of the votes , which is not so far from the limit ( 4 \ % ? ) .
Had the Pirate Party not existed , most likely SD would have gotten more votes and made it into the parlimant , perhaps even by a large margin .
So I would n't say Sweden is exactly inoculated.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Pirate Party probably brought out a lot of people (mostly young males) who wouldn't otherwise vote.
The voter turnout in Sweden was something like 43\%, which is atrocious but still in the top of Europe, and higher than last EU election.
Then there is also the case that the right-wing party, the Sweden Democrats, got something like 3.3\% of the votes, which is not so far from the limit (4\%?).
Had the Pirate Party not existed, most likely SD would have gotten more votes and made it into the parlimant, perhaps even by a large margin.
So I wouldn't say Sweden is exactly inoculated...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245321</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>Eponymous Crowbar</author>
	<datestamp>1244378400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, that's a little deceptive.  When is the last time a song was banned in the US?  If you are an adult, have you ever had trouble purchasing a violent video game in the US?  If you are a member of an extremist group (non-violent, at least), do you need to hide that in the US?  Can you buy military style weapons in the US?  You may not agree with some of the freedoms we have in the US, but they remain available.</p><p>I could come up with a list of things that are more accessible and free in the EU.  It's give and take.  Each area has advantages when it comes to freedom.  I don't think you can make a blanket statement that one area enjoys more freedoms than the other without qualifying which freedoms are most important to you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , that 's a little deceptive .
When is the last time a song was banned in the US ?
If you are an adult , have you ever had trouble purchasing a violent video game in the US ?
If you are a member of an extremist group ( non-violent , at least ) , do you need to hide that in the US ?
Can you buy military style weapons in the US ?
You may not agree with some of the freedoms we have in the US , but they remain available.I could come up with a list of things that are more accessible and free in the EU .
It 's give and take .
Each area has advantages when it comes to freedom .
I do n't think you can make a blanket statement that one area enjoys more freedoms than the other without qualifying which freedoms are most important to you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, that's a little deceptive.
When is the last time a song was banned in the US?
If you are an adult, have you ever had trouble purchasing a violent video game in the US?
If you are a member of an extremist group (non-violent, at least), do you need to hide that in the US?
Can you buy military style weapons in the US?
You may not agree with some of the freedoms we have in the US, but they remain available.I could come up with a list of things that are more accessible and free in the EU.
It's give and take.
Each area has advantages when it comes to freedom.
I don't think you can make a blanket statement that one area enjoys more freedoms than the other without qualifying which freedoms are most important to you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28268385</id>
	<title>Fact: Swedish never contributed anything.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244572500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Swedish never made any contribution in culture, science and technology.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Swedish never made any contribution in culture , science and technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Swedish never made any contribution in culture, science and technology.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244595</id>
	<title>And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244372940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We the people in the U.S. should be a bit ashamed  of this in all we claim about ourselves on a regular basis.  For those who are paying attention, we already know we have shifted over into "the Corporate States of America" bent on expanding to become "the Corporate States of Earth."</p><p>As far as copyright and intellectual property is concerned, I'll agree that there is a place for it, but it has exceeded its usefulness and purpose tremendously.  It now harms the public, culture and future-history in its present form and should be balanced with the interests of the individual.  We need a "Pirate Party" in the U.S... or at least a body like the EFF or ACLU or something like that.  (NYCL?  Is that your calling?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We the people in the U.S. should be a bit ashamed of this in all we claim about ourselves on a regular basis .
For those who are paying attention , we already know we have shifted over into " the Corporate States of America " bent on expanding to become " the Corporate States of Earth .
" As far as copyright and intellectual property is concerned , I 'll agree that there is a place for it , but it has exceeded its usefulness and purpose tremendously .
It now harms the public , culture and future-history in its present form and should be balanced with the interests of the individual .
We need a " Pirate Party " in the U.S... or at least a body like the EFF or ACLU or something like that .
( NYCL ? Is that your calling ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We the people in the U.S. should be a bit ashamed  of this in all we claim about ourselves on a regular basis.
For those who are paying attention, we already know we have shifted over into "the Corporate States of America" bent on expanding to become "the Corporate States of Earth.
"As far as copyright and intellectual property is concerned, I'll agree that there is a place for it, but it has exceeded its usefulness and purpose tremendously.
It now harms the public, culture and future-history in its present form and should be balanced with the interests of the individual.
We need a "Pirate Party" in the U.S... or at least a body like the EFF or ACLU or something like that.
(NYCL?  Is that your calling?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244455</id>
	<title>about 1\% in Germany</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244371980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With almost all votes counted, in Germany the Pirate Party is at 0.9\% with 228.445 votes counted so far, with 2 precincts still to report their votes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>With almost all votes counted , in Germany the Pirate Party is at 0.9 \ % with 228.445 votes counted so far , with 2 precincts still to report their votes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With almost all votes counted, in Germany the Pirate Party is at 0.9\% with 228.445 votes counted so far, with 2 precincts still to report their votes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244927</id>
	<title>Re:Are they a one-issue party?</title>
	<author>Pinckney</author>
	<datestamp>1244375460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Pirate Party only has three issues on its agenda:</p></div><p>That's from their English information page. So yes, they virtually are. On the other hand, I don't think it really matters. They're not going to become a dominant party, but they may come to play a useful role in influencing legislation. But no, you probably wouldn't want to give them presidency of the parliament.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Pirate Party only has three issues on its agenda : That 's from their English information page .
So yes , they virtually are .
On the other hand , I do n't think it really matters .
They 're not going to become a dominant party , but they may come to play a useful role in influencing legislation .
But no , you probably would n't want to give them presidency of the parliament .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Pirate Party only has three issues on its agenda:That's from their English information page.
So yes, they virtually are.
On the other hand, I don't think it really matters.
They're not going to become a dominant party, but they may come to play a useful role in influencing legislation.
But no, you probably wouldn't want to give them presidency of the parliament.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28251131</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244476620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What you are saying is close to herecy. People in the US have the most freedoms.</p><p>Anyone disagreeing that has not listened carefully enough at school and will be promptly sent to retraining.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What you are saying is close to herecy .
People in the US have the most freedoms.Anyone disagreeing that has not listened carefully enough at school and will be promptly sent to retraining .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What you are saying is close to herecy.
People in the US have the most freedoms.Anyone disagreeing that has not listened carefully enough at school and will be promptly sent to retraining.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244903</id>
	<title>Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more freed</title>
	<author>melted</author>
	<datestamp>1244375340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more freedoms than we do here in the US - the self proclaimed "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave".</p><p>That's what you get with a single party system, my friends. And no, this is not a typo - Dems and Repubs are pretty much the same party with minor variations. There's nowhere near the diversity of political opinion in the US as what you'd see in Europe. We need a raving, rabid, card carrying socialists to balance the equation somewhat on this side of the pond. All branches of the government have been licking the Big Business' behind for far too long.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more freedoms than we do here in the US - the self proclaimed " Land of the Free , Home of the Brave " .That 's what you get with a single party system , my friends .
And no , this is not a typo - Dems and Repubs are pretty much the same party with minor variations .
There 's nowhere near the diversity of political opinion in the US as what you 'd see in Europe .
We need a raving , rabid , card carrying socialists to balance the equation somewhat on this side of the pond .
All branches of the government have been licking the Big Business ' behind for far too long .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more freedoms than we do here in the US - the self proclaimed "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave".That's what you get with a single party system, my friends.
And no, this is not a typo - Dems and Repubs are pretty much the same party with minor variations.
There's nowhere near the diversity of political opinion in the US as what you'd see in Europe.
We need a raving, rabid, card carrying socialists to balance the equation somewhat on this side of the pond.
All branches of the government have been licking the Big Business' behind for far too long.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28248545</id>
	<title>Re:I sure hope one seat doesn't matter much</title>
	<author>polar red</author>
	<datestamp>1244456040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but they're not democrats either</p></div><p>BS. those 27 people are put forward by their resp. governments, so they are elected indirectly.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but they 're not democrats eitherBS .
those 27 people are put forward by their resp .
governments , so they are elected indirectly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but they're not democrats eitherBS.
those 27 people are put forward by their resp.
governments, so they are elected indirectly.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245587</id>
	<title>Why does that work in Sweden?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244380980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm also from Europe. Sadly, not from Sweden.</p><p>When you look at the rest of Europe, right-leaning to right-wing parties won the elections. Meaning, in general, that you may assume privacy will be taking a back seat behind big corporation interests and "protection".</p><p>Why not in Sweden? Why are Swedes appearantly inoculated against the fearmongering and scare tactics? And how do we export this to the rest of Europe?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm also from Europe .
Sadly , not from Sweden.When you look at the rest of Europe , right-leaning to right-wing parties won the elections .
Meaning , in general , that you may assume privacy will be taking a back seat behind big corporation interests and " protection " .Why not in Sweden ?
Why are Swedes appearantly inoculated against the fearmongering and scare tactics ?
And how do we export this to the rest of Europe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm also from Europe.
Sadly, not from Sweden.When you look at the rest of Europe, right-leaning to right-wing parties won the elections.
Meaning, in general, that you may assume privacy will be taking a back seat behind big corporation interests and "protection".Why not in Sweden?
Why are Swedes appearantly inoculated against the fearmongering and scare tactics?
And how do we export this to the rest of Europe?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245677</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>mqduck</author>
	<datestamp>1244381580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>we already know we have shifted over into "the Corporate States of America"</p></div><p>Not that I'm not proud of the revolutionary history in this country, but let's be real: the only thing "the Corporate States of America" shifted from is "the Slave States of America". Republicanism is more a form of government than a definition of who that government works for.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>we already know we have shifted over into " the Corporate States of America " Not that I 'm not proud of the revolutionary history in this country , but let 's be real : the only thing " the Corporate States of America " shifted from is " the Slave States of America " .
Republicanism is more a form of government than a definition of who that government works for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we already know we have shifted over into "the Corporate States of America"Not that I'm not proud of the revolutionary history in this country, but let's be real: the only thing "the Corporate States of America" shifted from is "the Slave States of America".
Republicanism is more a form of government than a definition of who that government works for.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244819</id>
	<title>Yawn.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244374740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So they get one person.  Maybe 2.  Either way, they will be lucky to have any ability to do anything.   Not that they can face up to the fact that the basis of their actions isn't privacy.  It isn't legal reform.  It's nothing more than greed on their part.  Because you see, they're better than the other guy!</p><p>Arrogant pricks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So they get one person .
Maybe 2 .
Either way , they will be lucky to have any ability to do anything .
Not that they can face up to the fact that the basis of their actions is n't privacy .
It is n't legal reform .
It 's nothing more than greed on their part .
Because you see , they 're better than the other guy ! Arrogant pricks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they get one person.
Maybe 2.
Either way, they will be lucky to have any ability to do anything.
Not that they can face up to the fact that the basis of their actions isn't privacy.
It isn't legal reform.
It's nothing more than greed on their part.
Because you see, they're better than the other guy!Arrogant pricks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245203</id>
	<title>Freeloaders of the world Unite!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244377620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Freeloaders of the world Unite!  'nuff said.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Freeloaders of the world Unite !
'nuff said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freeloaders of the world Unite!
'nuff said.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245577</id>
	<title>Re:I sure hope one seat doesn't matter much</title>
	<author>skrolle2</author>
	<datestamp>1244380920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In terms of voting power a single MEP sure doesn't contribute much, but the main benefits of having the Pirate Party represented is that there is now one person on the inside that can report on everything that threatens privacy and integrity or furthers the copyright maximalist agenda. He can expose and bring all those issues to the public eye, where other MEPs may or may not be interested in doing so. The other benefit is that he can talk, build alliances, educate and speak to the other MEPs as an equal, not as an outsider with an agenda, because he now has actual voter mandate to do so. There are also a lot of other MEPs from other parties that care about these issues, and there is now one person whose only job is to bring them all together and drive these issues in the direction we want.</p><p>The nationalists may have gotten a few seats, but in this issue most other MEPs are engaged against them, educated about it, and know exactly that they do not want to work with them, so it's much more of an uphill battle for them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In terms of voting power a single MEP sure does n't contribute much , but the main benefits of having the Pirate Party represented is that there is now one person on the inside that can report on everything that threatens privacy and integrity or furthers the copyright maximalist agenda .
He can expose and bring all those issues to the public eye , where other MEPs may or may not be interested in doing so .
The other benefit is that he can talk , build alliances , educate and speak to the other MEPs as an equal , not as an outsider with an agenda , because he now has actual voter mandate to do so .
There are also a lot of other MEPs from other parties that care about these issues , and there is now one person whose only job is to bring them all together and drive these issues in the direction we want.The nationalists may have gotten a few seats , but in this issue most other MEPs are engaged against them , educated about it , and know exactly that they do not want to work with them , so it 's much more of an uphill battle for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In terms of voting power a single MEP sure doesn't contribute much, but the main benefits of having the Pirate Party represented is that there is now one person on the inside that can report on everything that threatens privacy and integrity or furthers the copyright maximalist agenda.
He can expose and bring all those issues to the public eye, where other MEPs may or may not be interested in doing so.
The other benefit is that he can talk, build alliances, educate and speak to the other MEPs as an equal, not as an outsider with an agenda, because he now has actual voter mandate to do so.
There are also a lot of other MEPs from other parties that care about these issues, and there is now one person whose only job is to bring them all together and drive these issues in the direction we want.The nationalists may have gotten a few seats, but in this issue most other MEPs are engaged against them, educated about it, and know exactly that they do not want to work with them, so it's much more of an uphill battle for them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245329</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244505</id>
	<title>Pirate party for every country!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244372220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There was no pirate party in my country so I didn't vote at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There was no pirate party in my country so I did n't vote at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was no pirate party in my country so I didn't vote at all.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244463</id>
	<title>Happy and very proud!</title>
	<author>shaka</author>
	<datestamp>1244372040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a Swede, I am very proud that Sweden once again leads the way and is the first country to take an important issue seriously - wait until the next election and see Pirate Parties from countries all over Europe!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a Swede , I am very proud that Sweden once again leads the way and is the first country to take an important issue seriously - wait until the next election and see Pirate Parties from countries all over Europe !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a Swede, I am very proud that Sweden once again leads the way and is the first country to take an important issue seriously - wait until the next election and see Pirate Parties from countries all over Europe!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28250947</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1244475600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Can you buy military style weapons in the US?</p></div></blockquote><p>No, military (especially automatic) weapons are actually regulated. For instance, the US Army can have clips with more than ten bullets in them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you buy military style weapons in the US ? No , military ( especially automatic ) weapons are actually regulated .
For instance , the US Army can have clips with more than ten bullets in them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you buy military style weapons in the US?No, military (especially automatic) weapons are actually regulated.
For instance, the US Army can have clips with more than ten bullets in them.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245321</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244477</id>
	<title>Grats to TPP!</title>
	<author>ekran</author>
	<datestamp>1244372100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Grats to the pirate party!</p><p>Now, I wonder how they'll vote in not related cases? I mean, when things like economical issues or education or other stuff comes up, are they just going to abstain or are we going to see real politics being performed?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Grats to the pirate party ! Now , I wonder how they 'll vote in not related cases ?
I mean , when things like economical issues or education or other stuff comes up , are they just going to abstain or are we going to see real politics being performed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Grats to the pirate party!Now, I wonder how they'll vote in not related cases?
I mean, when things like economical issues or education or other stuff comes up, are they just going to abstain or are we going to see real politics being performed?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244557</id>
	<title>Re:Are they a one-issue party?</title>
	<author>alexhard</author>
	<datestamp>1244372640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They also want to reform patent and trademark law, but that's it. However, the issues that they are dealing with, most importantly the right to privacy, are in my mind (and obviously many others) much more important than the issue of whether taxes should be at 31\% or 32\%.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They also want to reform patent and trademark law , but that 's it .
However , the issues that they are dealing with , most importantly the right to privacy , are in my mind ( and obviously many others ) much more important than the issue of whether taxes should be at 31 \ % or 32 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They also want to reform patent and trademark law, but that's it.
However, the issues that they are dealing with, most importantly the right to privacy, are in my mind (and obviously many others) much more important than the issue of whether taxes should be at 31\% or 32\%.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244457</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28248373</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>jsa95</author>
	<datestamp>1244453820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>By allowing you to be a complete fscktard over uses of your code, even a few decades after you're dead.</htmltext>
<tokenext>By allowing you to be a complete fscktard over uses of your code , even a few decades after you 're dead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By allowing you to be a complete fscktard over uses of your code, even a few decades after you're dead.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245017</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245011</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244375940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The United States is not a democracy. No credible person even makes this claim.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The United States is not a democracy .
No credible person even makes this claim .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The United States is not a democracy.
No credible person even makes this claim.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244595</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244453</id>
	<title>Hope?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244371980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great news! I really hope the 18-30 year olds can still make a difference in an ageing society like Europe. I'm concerned that some decades ago, when the median age was much lower, western democracies were more agile and creative (look for example at the hippies, I'm not sure if that still wouldn't be possible).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great news !
I really hope the 18-30 year olds can still make a difference in an ageing society like Europe .
I 'm concerned that some decades ago , when the median age was much lower , western democracies were more agile and creative ( look for example at the hippies , I 'm not sure if that still would n't be possible ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great news!
I really hope the 18-30 year olds can still make a difference in an ageing society like Europe.
I'm concerned that some decades ago, when the median age was much lower, western democracies were more agile and creative (look for example at the hippies, I'm not sure if that still wouldn't be possible).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28246991</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>walshy007</author>
	<datestamp>1244394600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is essentially depriving the public of public domain, copyright is given as an incentive to authors of works to make works, but can you honestly say that it gives benefit to you 70 years after your death?</p><p>Most of the problem people have with copyright nowadays is all about the absurd duration.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is essentially depriving the public of public domain , copyright is given as an incentive to authors of works to make works , but can you honestly say that it gives benefit to you 70 years after your death ? Most of the problem people have with copyright nowadays is all about the absurd duration .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is essentially depriving the public of public domain, copyright is given as an incentive to authors of works to make works, but can you honestly say that it gives benefit to you 70 years after your death?Most of the problem people have with copyright nowadays is all about the absurd duration.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245017</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244547</id>
	<title>They got one seat</title>
	<author>dastrike</author>
	<datestamp>1244372520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The 7.1\% the Pirate Party got gives them one seat. See <a href="http://www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.html" title="www.val.se">http://www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.html</a> [www.val.se]. It is incredibly unlikely that they'd get another one. Nearly all of the advance votes have already been counted.</p><p>The advance votes get sent to the polling station where one would have normally voted on and are counted as part of the normal counting process. See <a href="http://www.val.se/in\_english/2009\_ep\_election/index.html" title="www.val.se">http://www.val.se/in\_english/2009\_ep\_election/index.html</a> [www.val.se]. Those advance votes that aren't counted yet are those  advance votes that were placed on Sunday, which are relatively few given Sunday was the ordinary election day.</p><p>Anyhow the final count will be available on Wednesday.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The 7.1 \ % the Pirate Party got gives them one seat .
See http : //www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.html [ www.val.se ] .
It is incredibly unlikely that they 'd get another one .
Nearly all of the advance votes have already been counted.The advance votes get sent to the polling station where one would have normally voted on and are counted as part of the normal counting process .
See http : //www.val.se/in \ _english/2009 \ _ep \ _election/index.html [ www.val.se ] .
Those advance votes that are n't counted yet are those advance votes that were placed on Sunday , which are relatively few given Sunday was the ordinary election day.Anyhow the final count will be available on Wednesday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The 7.1\% the Pirate Party got gives them one seat.
See http://www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.html [www.val.se].
It is incredibly unlikely that they'd get another one.
Nearly all of the advance votes have already been counted.The advance votes get sent to the polling station where one would have normally voted on and are counted as part of the normal counting process.
See http://www.val.se/in\_english/2009\_ep\_election/index.html [www.val.se].
Those advance votes that aren't counted yet are those  advance votes that were placed on Sunday, which are relatively few given Sunday was the ordinary election day.Anyhow the final count will be available on Wednesday.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28247759</id>
	<title>Re:German results</title>
	<author>I cant believe its n</author>
	<datestamp>1244404560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You guys had a better result in Germany than the swedish P.P. had in our first elections (in the 2006 national elections, we got 0.63\% of the votes). Keep up the good work and we are sure to be joined by both German and Finish pirates in the european parliament.
<br> <br>
Sharing is caring - please give blood at your local hospital</htmltext>
<tokenext>You guys had a better result in Germany than the swedish P.P .
had in our first elections ( in the 2006 national elections , we got 0.63 \ % of the votes ) .
Keep up the good work and we are sure to be joined by both German and Finish pirates in the european parliament .
Sharing is caring - please give blood at your local hospital</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You guys had a better result in Germany than the swedish P.P.
had in our first elections (in the 2006 national elections, we got 0.63\% of the votes).
Keep up the good work and we are sure to be joined by both German and Finish pirates in the european parliament.
Sharing is caring - please give blood at your local hospital</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244437</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28257239</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244458020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't, at least not in it's present form. Hence that's not the issue here.<br>Now, software patents might be another thing with regards to stifling innovation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't , at least not in it 's present form .
Hence that 's not the issue here.Now , software patents might be another thing with regards to stifling innovation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't, at least not in it's present form.
Hence that's not the issue here.Now, software patents might be another thing with regards to stifling innovation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245017</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28247553</id>
	<title>Arrr, a bast me maties! Victory at last!</title>
	<author>itsybitsy</author>
	<datestamp>1244401860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's sorta like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros\_Party\_of\_Canada" title="wikipedia.org">Rhinoceros Party</a> [wikipedia.org] winning a seat in Canada.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's sorta like the Rhinoceros Party [ wikipedia.org ] winning a seat in Canada .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's sorta like the Rhinoceros Party [wikipedia.org] winning a seat in Canada.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28248143</id>
	<title>Re:I sure hope one seat doesn't matter much</title>
	<author>lordholm</author>
	<datestamp>1244451660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That depends, a MEP can have a lot of influence in the questions they are involved in. But, in general they need to belong to a party group for this.</p><p>PP has stated that they intend to join either ALDE (the (classic) liberals) or the greens, depending on where they get most in return from.</p><p>ALDE is far larger and that group would be a far better target.</p><p>In any case, BNP is in general seen as neo-nazis by most people, so they cannot really expect to be accepted in any group, not even the most EU-critical groups would want to be associated with them, so they will remain group-less, which will basically severely limit their contribution and influence.</p><p>The BNP is not very likely (by their very nature) to seek to cooperate with other partys either which is PPs goal.</p><p>Politics is about making compromises and cooperating with eachothers, so the influence of PP will far outweigh the BNP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That depends , a MEP can have a lot of influence in the questions they are involved in .
But , in general they need to belong to a party group for this.PP has stated that they intend to join either ALDE ( the ( classic ) liberals ) or the greens , depending on where they get most in return from.ALDE is far larger and that group would be a far better target.In any case , BNP is in general seen as neo-nazis by most people , so they can not really expect to be accepted in any group , not even the most EU-critical groups would want to be associated with them , so they will remain group-less , which will basically severely limit their contribution and influence.The BNP is not very likely ( by their very nature ) to seek to cooperate with other partys either which is PPs goal.Politics is about making compromises and cooperating with eachothers , so the influence of PP will far outweigh the BNP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That depends, a MEP can have a lot of influence in the questions they are involved in.
But, in general they need to belong to a party group for this.PP has stated that they intend to join either ALDE (the (classic) liberals) or the greens, depending on where they get most in return from.ALDE is far larger and that group would be a far better target.In any case, BNP is in general seen as neo-nazis by most people, so they cannot really expect to be accepted in any group, not even the most EU-critical groups would want to be associated with them, so they will remain group-less, which will basically severely limit their contribution and influence.The BNP is not very likely (by their very nature) to seek to cooperate with other partys either which is PPs goal.Politics is about making compromises and cooperating with eachothers, so the influence of PP will far outweigh the BNP.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244625</id>
	<title>Re:German results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244373120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is PIRATEN any less of a name than the swedish one? Maybe you're just stupid because you'd judge political parties and their agenda based on their names.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is PIRATEN any less of a name than the swedish one ?
Maybe you 're just stupid because you 'd judge political parties and their agenda based on their names .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is PIRATEN any less of a name than the swedish one?
Maybe you're just stupid because you'd judge political parties and their agenda based on their names.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244437</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245329</id>
	<title>I sure hope one seat doesn't matter much</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244378460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While this is obviously a welcome result for those who support The Pirate Party, I think a lot of people posting here over-estimate the influence one MEP is going to have. At least I hope they do, because here in the UK, the British National Party just won a seat as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While this is obviously a welcome result for those who support The Pirate Party , I think a lot of people posting here over-estimate the influence one MEP is going to have .
At least I hope they do , because here in the UK , the British National Party just won a seat as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While this is obviously a welcome result for those who support The Pirate Party, I think a lot of people posting here over-estimate the influence one MEP is going to have.
At least I hope they do, because here in the UK, the British National Party just won a seat as well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244839</id>
	<title>Gratz to the Pirate Party</title>
	<author>ZarathustraDK</author>
	<datestamp>1244374860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you wanna invade Denmark anytime soon you'd be most welcome<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you wan na invade Denmark anytime soon you 'd be most welcome ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you wanna invade Denmark anytime soon you'd be most welcome ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245575</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244380860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not American but it looks like the problem in the US is that everyone votes for one of the two main parties (or the one party as you call it). The voters speak every election and they always say that they WANT to be ruled by two parties.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not American but it looks like the problem in the US is that everyone votes for one of the two main parties ( or the one party as you call it ) .
The voters speak every election and they always say that they WANT to be ruled by two parties .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not American but it looks like the problem in the US is that everyone votes for one of the two main parties (or the one party as you call it).
The voters speak every election and they always say that they WANT to be ruled by two parties.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244439</id>
	<title>Final results.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244371920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Pirate Party got 7.1\% wth 99.9\% votes counted.

This will give them 1 seat in the current parlament, 2 if the parlament gets extended according to the Lisbon treaty.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/greger</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Pirate Party got 7.1 \ % wth 99.9 \ % votes counted .
This will give them 1 seat in the current parlament , 2 if the parlament gets extended according to the Lisbon treaty .
/greger</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Pirate Party got 7.1\% wth 99.9\% votes counted.
This will give them 1 seat in the current parlament, 2 if the parlament gets extended according to the Lisbon treaty.
/greger</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244651</id>
	<title>Mutiny in the EU.</title>
	<author>ae1294</author>
	<datestamp>1244373360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Woah... they went from 0 to 100kph in like 1 second. If I was the other parties i'd be taking notice. One seat probably isn't going to change much but it has been amazing to watch this whole thing unfold and the threat it all posses to the other parties if they don't stop taking money and order's from big business/brother...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Woah... they went from 0 to 100kph in like 1 second .
If I was the other parties i 'd be taking notice .
One seat probably is n't going to change much but it has been amazing to watch this whole thing unfold and the threat it all posses to the other parties if they do n't stop taking money and order 's from big business/brother.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Woah... they went from 0 to 100kph in like 1 second.
If I was the other parties i'd be taking notice.
One seat probably isn't going to change much but it has been amazing to watch this whole thing unfold and the threat it all posses to the other parties if they don't stop taking money and order's from big business/brother...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244483</id>
	<title>Nice!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244372100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can find the final official result here:<br>http://www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.html</p><p>The purple bar (PP) represent the privacy/piracy party, 7,1\% will give them one seat in the European parliamen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can find the final official result here : http : //www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.htmlThe purple bar ( PP ) represent the privacy/piracy party , 7,1 \ % will give them one seat in the European parliamen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can find the final official result here:http://www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.htmlThe purple bar (PP) represent the privacy/piracy party, 7,1\% will give them one seat in the European parliamen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28248459</id>
	<title>Re:Like Communists</title>
	<author>pimpimpim</author>
	<datestamp>1244454900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the last year there was 12 Trillion dollar spent on bailing out banks. By  non-communist parties. Again, who actually HAS an understanding of basic economics? Neither the banks nor existing parties in power, apparently. The worst thing is, nobody still knows how this immense amount of bailout money is going to be paid back, everybody is just trying to act as if nothing happened.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the last year there was 12 Trillion dollar spent on bailing out banks .
By non-communist parties .
Again , who actually HAS an understanding of basic economics ?
Neither the banks nor existing parties in power , apparently .
The worst thing is , nobody still knows how this immense amount of bailout money is going to be paid back , everybody is just trying to act as if nothing happened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the last year there was 12 Trillion dollar spent on bailing out banks.
By  non-communist parties.
Again, who actually HAS an understanding of basic economics?
Neither the banks nor existing parties in power, apparently.
The worst thing is, nobody still knows how this immense amount of bailout money is going to be paid back, everybody is just trying to act as if nothing happened.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28248575</id>
	<title>Spread the PP across UE !!</title>
	<author>koolfy</author>
	<datestamp>1244456520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We TOTALLY need a Pirate Party here in France/Belgium, I hope we will get one before the next elections&#226;&#166;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We TOTALLY need a Pirate Party here in France/Belgium , I hope we will get one before the next elections    </tokentext>
<sentencetext>We TOTALLY need a Pirate Party here in France/Belgium, I hope we will get one before the next electionsâ¦</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244451</id>
	<title>Could be for lols</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244371980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If i was submitting to an exit poll that wasn't the REAL poll, i may put down pirate party for shits and giggles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If i was submitting to an exit poll that was n't the REAL poll , i may put down pirate party for shits and giggles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If i was submitting to an exit poll that wasn't the REAL poll, i may put down pirate party for shits and giggles.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244531</id>
	<title>Pirate party is really Private party</title>
	<author>Bjarne Bula</author>
	<datestamp>1244372400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It should be noted that although they call themselves the Pirate party, the focus of the party is on questions of privacy and integrity. Issues where voters have been repeatedly ignored and even betrayed by the established parties.</p><p>While one of the laws recently shoved down voter's throats, despite promises to the contrary, have been aimed towards curbing piracy, the real outrage has been against the privacy and integrity issues with this and other recently passed laws regarding interception of domestic communications etc. (Well, that, and giving corporations the ability to petition courts to perform searches that, under similar conditions, would not be granted even to the police.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It should be noted that although they call themselves the Pirate party , the focus of the party is on questions of privacy and integrity .
Issues where voters have been repeatedly ignored and even betrayed by the established parties.While one of the laws recently shoved down voter 's throats , despite promises to the contrary , have been aimed towards curbing piracy , the real outrage has been against the privacy and integrity issues with this and other recently passed laws regarding interception of domestic communications etc .
( Well , that , and giving corporations the ability to petition courts to perform searches that , under similar conditions , would not be granted even to the police .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should be noted that although they call themselves the Pirate party, the focus of the party is on questions of privacy and integrity.
Issues where voters have been repeatedly ignored and even betrayed by the established parties.While one of the laws recently shoved down voter's throats, despite promises to the contrary, have been aimed towards curbing piracy, the real outrage has been against the privacy and integrity issues with this and other recently passed laws regarding interception of domestic communications etc.
(Well, that, and giving corporations the ability to petition courts to perform searches that, under similar conditions, would not be granted even to the police.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28247585</id>
	<title>zzz</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1244402220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>#1. every crime you hold the two party system responsible for also happens in multiparty states. in other words, the two party system does not cause the corruption you believe it does</p><p>#2. we DO have multiparty systems in the usa. clinton beat bush #1 in 1992 because ross perot split the right. nader cost al gore the election in 2000 by ekeing away from the left. go to google and type in "whig". read up on its history. why didn't a new party come in and stand next to the whig party rather than come in and REPLACE the whig party? because the us system is MATHEMATICALLY rigged to favor a two party equilibrium. three or more parties in the usa is unstable: two parties are just bound to dominate, and weaken the third/ fourth/ etc. its mathematics of the rules playing out, that's all, not some sort of plot</p><p>#3. the left/ right dichotomy is a basic political axis that exists even in multiparty states. multiparty states often devolve into dominant party states. meaning, one party holds the majority of power for decades. sound better?</p><p>#4. a benefit of a two party system you don't recognize is it forces both parties to compete for the moderate, forcing the agendas of both parties to moderate rather than radicalize (yes, i know some of you think both parties are far right, or both parties are far left: this is more a reflection of your own radical politics than political reality, and few people share your opinion with you, since you believe both parties are right, both parties are left, you are fringe, and therefore of a very minor and mostly irrelevant cranky point of view)</p><p>#5. a negative of multiparty systems is they rule by coalition. what this means is the ultraleft greens with throw out all of what they stand for ideologically to get in bed with a far right racist party in order to hold onto the craven need for power. go ahead, ask any german. meaning: in multiparty systems, people can be even more shallow ideologically then they might seem to you in a two party system</p><p>i'm not saying the two party system is wonderful and perfect. it has plenty of problems. i understand and agree with the founding father's distrust of them. but i understand they aren't some plot, they aren't colluding, they aren't the same, unlike some fools you hear. they are just inevitable emergent phenomena of politics playing out. restart the usa as some sort of experiment 1 times, 10 times, 100 times... every single time, you'll wind up with an equilibirum of two parties. not one party, not three parties, not no parties, but two parties</p><p>i'm just sick of people who think it is at the root of all of our political problems. if we changed all of the political rules in the usa so there were more than two parties, NOTHING WOULD CHANGE ABOUT WHAT YOU HATE ABOUT POLITICS</p><p>please take a moment educate yourself the slightest about the subject matter, THEN open your mouth. here, here's a primer, follow the links, edumacate yourself PLEASE:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party\_system" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party\_system</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext># 1. every crime you hold the two party system responsible for also happens in multiparty states .
in other words , the two party system does not cause the corruption you believe it does # 2 .
we DO have multiparty systems in the usa .
clinton beat bush # 1 in 1992 because ross perot split the right .
nader cost al gore the election in 2000 by ekeing away from the left .
go to google and type in " whig " .
read up on its history .
why did n't a new party come in and stand next to the whig party rather than come in and REPLACE the whig party ?
because the us system is MATHEMATICALLY rigged to favor a two party equilibrium .
three or more parties in the usa is unstable : two parties are just bound to dominate , and weaken the third/ fourth/ etc .
its mathematics of the rules playing out , that 's all , not some sort of plot # 3 .
the left/ right dichotomy is a basic political axis that exists even in multiparty states .
multiparty states often devolve into dominant party states .
meaning , one party holds the majority of power for decades .
sound better ? # 4 .
a benefit of a two party system you do n't recognize is it forces both parties to compete for the moderate , forcing the agendas of both parties to moderate rather than radicalize ( yes , i know some of you think both parties are far right , or both parties are far left : this is more a reflection of your own radical politics than political reality , and few people share your opinion with you , since you believe both parties are right , both parties are left , you are fringe , and therefore of a very minor and mostly irrelevant cranky point of view ) # 5. a negative of multiparty systems is they rule by coalition .
what this means is the ultraleft greens with throw out all of what they stand for ideologically to get in bed with a far right racist party in order to hold onto the craven need for power .
go ahead , ask any german .
meaning : in multiparty systems , people can be even more shallow ideologically then they might seem to you in a two party systemi 'm not saying the two party system is wonderful and perfect .
it has plenty of problems .
i understand and agree with the founding father 's distrust of them .
but i understand they are n't some plot , they are n't colluding , they are n't the same , unlike some fools you hear .
they are just inevitable emergent phenomena of politics playing out .
restart the usa as some sort of experiment 1 times , 10 times , 100 times... every single time , you 'll wind up with an equilibirum of two parties .
not one party , not three parties , not no parties , but two partiesi 'm just sick of people who think it is at the root of all of our political problems .
if we changed all of the political rules in the usa so there were more than two parties , NOTHING WOULD CHANGE ABOUT WHAT YOU HATE ABOUT POLITICSplease take a moment educate yourself the slightest about the subject matter , THEN open your mouth .
here , here 's a primer , follow the links , edumacate yourself PLEASE : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party \ _system [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>#1. every crime you hold the two party system responsible for also happens in multiparty states.
in other words, the two party system does not cause the corruption you believe it does#2.
we DO have multiparty systems in the usa.
clinton beat bush #1 in 1992 because ross perot split the right.
nader cost al gore the election in 2000 by ekeing away from the left.
go to google and type in "whig".
read up on its history.
why didn't a new party come in and stand next to the whig party rather than come in and REPLACE the whig party?
because the us system is MATHEMATICALLY rigged to favor a two party equilibrium.
three or more parties in the usa is unstable: two parties are just bound to dominate, and weaken the third/ fourth/ etc.
its mathematics of the rules playing out, that's all, not some sort of plot#3.
the left/ right dichotomy is a basic political axis that exists even in multiparty states.
multiparty states often devolve into dominant party states.
meaning, one party holds the majority of power for decades.
sound better?#4.
a benefit of a two party system you don't recognize is it forces both parties to compete for the moderate, forcing the agendas of both parties to moderate rather than radicalize (yes, i know some of you think both parties are far right, or both parties are far left: this is more a reflection of your own radical politics than political reality, and few people share your opinion with you, since you believe both parties are right, both parties are left, you are fringe, and therefore of a very minor and mostly irrelevant cranky point of view)#5. a negative of multiparty systems is they rule by coalition.
what this means is the ultraleft greens with throw out all of what they stand for ideologically to get in bed with a far right racist party in order to hold onto the craven need for power.
go ahead, ask any german.
meaning: in multiparty systems, people can be even more shallow ideologically then they might seem to you in a two party systemi'm not saying the two party system is wonderful and perfect.
it has plenty of problems.
i understand and agree with the founding father's distrust of them.
but i understand they aren't some plot, they aren't colluding, they aren't the same, unlike some fools you hear.
they are just inevitable emergent phenomena of politics playing out.
restart the usa as some sort of experiment 1 times, 10 times, 100 times... every single time, you'll wind up with an equilibirum of two parties.
not one party, not three parties, not no parties, but two partiesi'm just sick of people who think it is at the root of all of our political problems.
if we changed all of the political rules in the usa so there were more than two parties, NOTHING WOULD CHANGE ABOUT WHAT YOU HATE ABOUT POLITICSplease take a moment educate yourself the slightest about the subject matter, THEN open your mouth.
here, here's a primer, follow the links, edumacate yourself PLEASE:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party\_system [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28246675</id>
	<title>Re:Are they a one-issue party?</title>
	<author>Husgaard</author>
	<datestamp>1244391360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Besides copyright reform they want to abolish the patent system.
<p>
And they are also very strong on the protection of personal integrity, in particular civil rights like the right to free speech, privacy and a fair trial.
</p><p>
After having followed the swedish election campaign closely, it looks to me like the protection of personal integrity got them their victory.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Besides copyright reform they want to abolish the patent system .
And they are also very strong on the protection of personal integrity , in particular civil rights like the right to free speech , privacy and a fair trial .
After having followed the swedish election campaign closely , it looks to me like the protection of personal integrity got them their victory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Besides copyright reform they want to abolish the patent system.
And they are also very strong on the protection of personal integrity, in particular civil rights like the right to free speech, privacy and a fair trial.
After having followed the swedish election campaign closely, it looks to me like the protection of personal integrity got them their victory.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28247957</id>
	<title>Re:They got one seat</title>
	<author>Jugalator</author>
	<datestamp>1244493180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The 7.1\% the Pirate Party got gives them one seat. See <a href="http://www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.html" title="www.val.se">http://www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.html</a> [www.val.se] [www.val.se]. It is incredibly unlikely that they'd get another one.</p></div><p>They'll get another one of the Lisbon treaty is passed, an issue the PP is against, but will probably happen anyway.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The 7.1 \ % the Pirate Party got gives them one seat .
See http : //www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.html [ www.val.se ] [ www.val.se ] .
It is incredibly unlikely that they 'd get another one.They 'll get another one of the Lisbon treaty is passed , an issue the PP is against , but will probably happen anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The 7.1\% the Pirate Party got gives them one seat.
See http://www.val.se/val/ep2009/valnatt/rike/index.html [www.val.se] [www.val.se].
It is incredibly unlikely that they'd get another one.They'll get another one of the Lisbon treaty is passed, an issue the PP is against, but will probably happen anyway.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244745</id>
	<title>Re:German results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244374260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interesting, do you have any source for this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting , do you have any source for this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting, do you have any source for this?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244581</id>
	<title>I'm following the elections-2nd seat not likely :(</title>
	<author>blind biker</author>
	<datestamp>1244372820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At the very beginning I was till hoping the good boys of PP will get the second seat, but by now it's very unlikely.</p><p>Still, good initial showing. Congrats! Now time to open a Finnish chapter, as well (we Finns and Swedes always like to argue, but in truth we are very similar).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At the very beginning I was till hoping the good boys of PP will get the second seat , but by now it 's very unlikely.Still , good initial showing .
Congrats ! Now time to open a Finnish chapter , as well ( we Finns and Swedes always like to argue , but in truth we are very similar ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the very beginning I was till hoping the good boys of PP will get the second seat, but by now it's very unlikely.Still, good initial showing.
Congrats! Now time to open a Finnish chapter, as well (we Finns and Swedes always like to argue, but in truth we are very similar).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28248197</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>twostix</author>
	<datestamp>1244452140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a 99.999\% chance at least some of it is violating multiple patents for starters.  So probably quite a bit of that code that you wrote, you actually don't own the "IP" to.  You're stealing from someone else.</p><p>And if you agree with the new IP movement then you're a thief and hypocrite if you aren't licensing all code and concepts that you use that infringe.</p><p>As for copyright, it's as irrelevant to talk about copyright with regards to code as talking about the copyright that exists on the finger painting my 1 year old did this morning. When is code *ever* subject to copyright litigation?  It happens *so rarely* it's not worth wasting a single thought to think about.  Contract law, NDAs, dodgy licences, compilers and obfuscaters protect "code" as a general tradition.</p><p>No the real issue is why should people who upload Bing Crosby's work - someone who's been dead since 1977, be issued take down notices against their *own* creative works on Youtube in 2009?</p><p>Who alive contributed *anything* to that music?  Who can possibly claim any "right" to a DEAD MANS music by saying their trying to protect artists rights??</p><p>This discussion is about culture, not people who push buttons* and call it "art".</p><p>*Pushes buttons for a living.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a 99.999 \ % chance at least some of it is violating multiple patents for starters .
So probably quite a bit of that code that you wrote , you actually do n't own the " IP " to .
You 're stealing from someone else.And if you agree with the new IP movement then you 're a thief and hypocrite if you are n't licensing all code and concepts that you use that infringe.As for copyright , it 's as irrelevant to talk about copyright with regards to code as talking about the copyright that exists on the finger painting my 1 year old did this morning .
When is code * ever * subject to copyright litigation ?
It happens * so rarely * it 's not worth wasting a single thought to think about .
Contract law , NDAs , dodgy licences , compilers and obfuscaters protect " code " as a general tradition.No the real issue is why should people who upload Bing Crosby 's work - someone who 's been dead since 1977 , be issued take down notices against their * own * creative works on Youtube in 2009 ? Who alive contributed * anything * to that music ?
Who can possibly claim any " right " to a DEAD MANS music by saying their trying to protect artists rights ?
? This discussion is about culture , not people who push buttons * and call it " art " .
* Pushes buttons for a living .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a 99.999\% chance at least some of it is violating multiple patents for starters.
So probably quite a bit of that code that you wrote, you actually don't own the "IP" to.
You're stealing from someone else.And if you agree with the new IP movement then you're a thief and hypocrite if you aren't licensing all code and concepts that you use that infringe.As for copyright, it's as irrelevant to talk about copyright with regards to code as talking about the copyright that exists on the finger painting my 1 year old did this morning.
When is code *ever* subject to copyright litigation?
It happens *so rarely* it's not worth wasting a single thought to think about.
Contract law, NDAs, dodgy licences, compilers and obfuscaters protect "code" as a general tradition.No the real issue is why should people who upload Bing Crosby's work - someone who's been dead since 1977, be issued take down notices against their *own* creative works on Youtube in 2009?Who alive contributed *anything* to that music?
Who can possibly claim any "right" to a DEAD MANS music by saying their trying to protect artists rights?
?This discussion is about culture, not people who push buttons* and call it "art".
*Pushes buttons for a living.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245971</id>
	<title>Not possible with the Jewish Machine in the USA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244384400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The moment you found the party, the Jewish Political Machine will shut you down with their army of lawyers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The moment you found the party , the Jewish Political Machine will shut you down with their army of lawyers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The moment you found the party, the Jewish Political Machine will shut you down with their army of lawyers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28252031</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1244481300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What would you expect to happen to a country where the populace can't comprehend anything more than us versus them, and who aren't willing or interested in trying? When there are more people voting in American Idol than in the presidential elections, you <i>know</i> there's something deathly wrong with society.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What would you expect to happen to a country where the populace ca n't comprehend anything more than us versus them , and who are n't willing or interested in trying ?
When there are more people voting in American Idol than in the presidential elections , you know there 's something deathly wrong with society .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What would you expect to happen to a country where the populace can't comprehend anything more than us versus them, and who aren't willing or interested in trying?
When there are more people voting in American Idol than in the presidential elections, you know there's something deathly wrong with society.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28255989</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244453640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't. Your licensing terms (or lack of terms) do.<br>The GPL shows that clearly.</p><p>It does harm to hide away good code from other programmers.<br>It does harm to hide your bugs from scrutinizing eyes<br>It does harm to hide your weird and funny comments from the public</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't .
Your licensing terms ( or lack of terms ) do.The GPL shows that clearly.It does harm to hide away good code from other programmers.It does harm to hide your bugs from scrutinizing eyesIt does harm to hide your weird and funny comments from the public</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't.
Your licensing terms (or lack of terms) do.The GPL shows that clearly.It does harm to hide away good code from other programmers.It does harm to hide your bugs from scrutinizing eyesIt does harm to hide your weird and funny comments from the public</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245637</id>
	<title>Where is the Singularity party?</title>
	<author>Sybert42</author>
	<datestamp>1244381280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That would be far more interesting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That would be far more interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would be far more interesting.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244525</id>
	<title>Germany 0.9\% for the Pirates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244372400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You need to get at least 0.5\% to get money from the state. approx 7 cent per vote. The total results can be found here: <a href="http://www.bundeswahlleiter.de/en/europawahlen/EU\_BUND\_09/ergebnisse/bundesergebnisse/b\_tabelle\_99.html" title="bundeswahlleiter.de">http://www.bundeswahlleiter.de/en/europawahlen/EU\_BUND\_09/ergebnisse/bundesergebnisse/b\_tabelle\_99.html</a> [bundeswahlleiter.de]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You need to get at least 0.5 \ % to get money from the state .
approx 7 cent per vote .
The total results can be found here : http : //www.bundeswahlleiter.de/en/europawahlen/EU \ _BUND \ _09/ergebnisse/bundesergebnisse/b \ _tabelle \ _99.html [ bundeswahlleiter.de ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You need to get at least 0.5\% to get money from the state.
approx 7 cent per vote.
The total results can be found here: http://www.bundeswahlleiter.de/en/europawahlen/EU\_BUND\_09/ergebnisse/bundesergebnisse/b\_tabelle\_99.html [bundeswahlleiter.de]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28253131</id>
	<title>Copyrights and Wages</title>
	<author>CherniyVolk</author>
	<datestamp>1244485920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some arguments revolve in "well, without copyrights how do we get paid", and the two sides argue either paid for work done while the copyright proponents argue for continual pay and some try to argue they don't get paid that much.</p><p>First, if they didn't get paid that much, then this whole issue would be of no concern to anyone (even those who are receiving pay).  Do you think a bum really cares much about finances considering he only get's mere chump change?  It's only the people who reap great rewards who seem most concerned about diminutive finances even if they are merely indirect.  To attain a more clear idea of this concept, think of the truck driver hauling petroleum.  While gas prices rise, he is unaffected.  While the claims in the media assert that part of the reason the gas prices rise is to, in part, pay the trucker, in reality his pay stays the same with diminishing health benefits.  The only people benefiting from the 10 cent rise in pump prices, are the people at the very top, and no one or no thing or no process or procedure has change anywhere in between the pump and the CEO of Exxon or BP.  To the trucker, it's an extra 10 cents, no real big deal only noticable via his general math skills but since he has a "good job" he only voices is opinion on price change via a political sentiment, hardly a financial one.  The only one motivated by the zeal of a 10 cent rise is the one who can reap all of those 10 cents into a single pot rendering multiple millions via sum.</p><p>This whole copyright thing really is about the Big Dogs extorting control, distribution and price of products they are legally rightful of.  Let's take Alexandre Kalishnikov for example.  Designer of the AK-47, undoubtedly a best seller through and through.  Does he reap royalities?  Pretty sure he doesn't.  But, is a copyright system in America any better?  Who exactly is running all these law suits, all the claims of copyright and patent infringment?  The Industry had to pay or force Metallica to do a publicity stunt against Napster.  It's rarely the actual artist that claims copyright infringement, the only one that comes to mind is Prince.  It's always, someone who probably doesn't actually hold or created the copyright, it's someone who took the copyrights from the original copyright holder to begin with.  Sony Entertainment owns a butt-load of copyright material... Sony created none of it, just forced their entertainers to forfeit their rights of the material to them.  In the end, we are all, Alexandre Kalishnikovs.... whether it's a wealthy chinese weapons manufacture, or a wealthy Sony CEO... one thing is for sure the actual inventor probably isn't at a loss due to piracy, nor was he actually reaping the real profit off his inventions.</p><p>This whole issue really boils down to one thing.  The heads of the industry want to exploit this new technology for a way to increase their revenue, and if some law will allow them to charge for every additional copy, then they will be loving this whole internet thing.  The inventors, poets, musicians, composers, engineers, writers, scribes, tradesmen, journeymen, craftsman... it's just going to be another day to them.  And regardless of which laws are adopted, only those at the top are effected while their source for resources (intellectual resources) are shafted all the same.  Do you really believe, those poorly paid people in the Entertainment industries will get a pay raise if the laws were passed in favor of the RIAA or MPAA?  God, you're  a fool if you think so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some arguments revolve in " well , without copyrights how do we get paid " , and the two sides argue either paid for work done while the copyright proponents argue for continual pay and some try to argue they do n't get paid that much.First , if they did n't get paid that much , then this whole issue would be of no concern to anyone ( even those who are receiving pay ) .
Do you think a bum really cares much about finances considering he only get 's mere chump change ?
It 's only the people who reap great rewards who seem most concerned about diminutive finances even if they are merely indirect .
To attain a more clear idea of this concept , think of the truck driver hauling petroleum .
While gas prices rise , he is unaffected .
While the claims in the media assert that part of the reason the gas prices rise is to , in part , pay the trucker , in reality his pay stays the same with diminishing health benefits .
The only people benefiting from the 10 cent rise in pump prices , are the people at the very top , and no one or no thing or no process or procedure has change anywhere in between the pump and the CEO of Exxon or BP .
To the trucker , it 's an extra 10 cents , no real big deal only noticable via his general math skills but since he has a " good job " he only voices is opinion on price change via a political sentiment , hardly a financial one .
The only one motivated by the zeal of a 10 cent rise is the one who can reap all of those 10 cents into a single pot rendering multiple millions via sum.This whole copyright thing really is about the Big Dogs extorting control , distribution and price of products they are legally rightful of .
Let 's take Alexandre Kalishnikov for example .
Designer of the AK-47 , undoubtedly a best seller through and through .
Does he reap royalities ?
Pretty sure he does n't .
But , is a copyright system in America any better ?
Who exactly is running all these law suits , all the claims of copyright and patent infringment ?
The Industry had to pay or force Metallica to do a publicity stunt against Napster .
It 's rarely the actual artist that claims copyright infringement , the only one that comes to mind is Prince .
It 's always , someone who probably does n't actually hold or created the copyright , it 's someone who took the copyrights from the original copyright holder to begin with .
Sony Entertainment owns a butt-load of copyright material... Sony created none of it , just forced their entertainers to forfeit their rights of the material to them .
In the end , we are all , Alexandre Kalishnikovs.... whether it 's a wealthy chinese weapons manufacture , or a wealthy Sony CEO... one thing is for sure the actual inventor probably is n't at a loss due to piracy , nor was he actually reaping the real profit off his inventions.This whole issue really boils down to one thing .
The heads of the industry want to exploit this new technology for a way to increase their revenue , and if some law will allow them to charge for every additional copy , then they will be loving this whole internet thing .
The inventors , poets , musicians , composers , engineers , writers , scribes , tradesmen , journeymen , craftsman... it 's just going to be another day to them .
And regardless of which laws are adopted , only those at the top are effected while their source for resources ( intellectual resources ) are shafted all the same .
Do you really believe , those poorly paid people in the Entertainment industries will get a pay raise if the laws were passed in favor of the RIAA or MPAA ?
God , you 're a fool if you think so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some arguments revolve in "well, without copyrights how do we get paid", and the two sides argue either paid for work done while the copyright proponents argue for continual pay and some try to argue they don't get paid that much.First, if they didn't get paid that much, then this whole issue would be of no concern to anyone (even those who are receiving pay).
Do you think a bum really cares much about finances considering he only get's mere chump change?
It's only the people who reap great rewards who seem most concerned about diminutive finances even if they are merely indirect.
To attain a more clear idea of this concept, think of the truck driver hauling petroleum.
While gas prices rise, he is unaffected.
While the claims in the media assert that part of the reason the gas prices rise is to, in part, pay the trucker, in reality his pay stays the same with diminishing health benefits.
The only people benefiting from the 10 cent rise in pump prices, are the people at the very top, and no one or no thing or no process or procedure has change anywhere in between the pump and the CEO of Exxon or BP.
To the trucker, it's an extra 10 cents, no real big deal only noticable via his general math skills but since he has a "good job" he only voices is opinion on price change via a political sentiment, hardly a financial one.
The only one motivated by the zeal of a 10 cent rise is the one who can reap all of those 10 cents into a single pot rendering multiple millions via sum.This whole copyright thing really is about the Big Dogs extorting control, distribution and price of products they are legally rightful of.
Let's take Alexandre Kalishnikov for example.
Designer of the AK-47, undoubtedly a best seller through and through.
Does he reap royalities?
Pretty sure he doesn't.
But, is a copyright system in America any better?
Who exactly is running all these law suits, all the claims of copyright and patent infringment?
The Industry had to pay or force Metallica to do a publicity stunt against Napster.
It's rarely the actual artist that claims copyright infringement, the only one that comes to mind is Prince.
It's always, someone who probably doesn't actually hold or created the copyright, it's someone who took the copyrights from the original copyright holder to begin with.
Sony Entertainment owns a butt-load of copyright material... Sony created none of it, just forced their entertainers to forfeit their rights of the material to them.
In the end, we are all, Alexandre Kalishnikovs.... whether it's a wealthy chinese weapons manufacture, or a wealthy Sony CEO... one thing is for sure the actual inventor probably isn't at a loss due to piracy, nor was he actually reaping the real profit off his inventions.This whole issue really boils down to one thing.
The heads of the industry want to exploit this new technology for a way to increase their revenue, and if some law will allow them to charge for every additional copy, then they will be loving this whole internet thing.
The inventors, poets, musicians, composers, engineers, writers, scribes, tradesmen, journeymen, craftsman... it's just going to be another day to them.
And regardless of which laws are adopted, only those at the top are effected while their source for resources (intellectual resources) are shafted all the same.
Do you really believe, those poorly paid people in the Entertainment industries will get a pay raise if the laws were passed in favor of the RIAA or MPAA?
God, you're  a fool if you think so.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244777</id>
	<title>Re:Are they a one-issue party?</title>
	<author>HappySmileMan</author>
	<datestamp>1244374500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Freedom of Information and Privacy are their stated goals, and that with regards to both online and offline activities.</p><p>So it's limited, but not nearly as limited as JUST copyright and patent reform.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Freedom of Information and Privacy are their stated goals , and that with regards to both online and offline activities.So it 's limited , but not nearly as limited as JUST copyright and patent reform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freedom of Information and Privacy are their stated goals, and that with regards to both online and offline activities.So it's limited, but not nearly as limited as JUST copyright and patent reform.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244577</id>
	<title>Re:Are they a one-issue party?</title>
	<author>Darkness404</author>
	<datestamp>1244372760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think so, and I don't really think the point of the pirate party is to be a continual party. Their point is to say A) Filesharing for personal use should be legal B) Give us our privacy C) Enough people care about this that they will elect people who are virtually unknown just so they don't have to be stuck with you. Eventually, they will get their goals if this keeps coming up, real debate on copyright and privacy. When that happens other parties will take their stances (and most will be pro-pirate) and so eventually the pirate party will become obsolete. It takes a few radicals to make change happen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think so , and I do n't really think the point of the pirate party is to be a continual party .
Their point is to say A ) Filesharing for personal use should be legal B ) Give us our privacy C ) Enough people care about this that they will elect people who are virtually unknown just so they do n't have to be stuck with you .
Eventually , they will get their goals if this keeps coming up , real debate on copyright and privacy .
When that happens other parties will take their stances ( and most will be pro-pirate ) and so eventually the pirate party will become obsolete .
It takes a few radicals to make change happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think so, and I don't really think the point of the pirate party is to be a continual party.
Their point is to say A) Filesharing for personal use should be legal B) Give us our privacy C) Enough people care about this that they will elect people who are virtually unknown just so they don't have to be stuck with you.
Eventually, they will get their goals if this keeps coming up, real debate on copyright and privacy.
When that happens other parties will take their stances (and most will be pro-pirate) and so eventually the pirate party will become obsolete.
It takes a few radicals to make change happen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244437</id>
	<title>German results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244371860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi,</p><p>the pirate party reached in germany 0,9\%. Concerning lack of attention from the media, nearly non-existent funds and that stupid name, this is a very strong result for them.</p><p>CU, Martin</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi,the pirate party reached in germany 0,9 \ % .
Concerning lack of attention from the media , nearly non-existent funds and that stupid name , this is a very strong result for them.CU , Martin</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi,the pirate party reached in germany 0,9\%.
Concerning lack of attention from the media, nearly non-existent funds and that stupid name, this is a very strong result for them.CU, Martin</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245077</id>
	<title>I'm proud today</title>
	<author>Hazelfield</author>
	<datestamp>1244376540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sweden has for a long time been known as an advanced IT nation with widespread computer use, broadband connections, IT companies and so on. In the last few years that has come to change with new repressive laws like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRA\_law" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">FRA</a> [wikipedia.org] and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPRED" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">IPRED</a> [wikipedia.org], but today we took back some of our lost pride. It's good to see that we give Europe a voice for a reformed copyright and patent law, free culture, and privacy and democracy on the Internet.

Even if it's difficult for this person - most likely <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian\_Engstr&ouml;m" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Christian Engstr&ouml;m</a> [wikipedia.org] - to affect decisions directly among 735 other MPs, his presence will have two important consequences: <br> <br>

1) It gives Brussels some sorely needed competence on these issues to act as a counterweight against lobbyists trying to influence decisions.<br> <br>

2) It sends a message to the other parties that they cannot continue ignoring the rights of their citizens forever. <br> <br>

I voted for the Pirate Party and I hope this result will be the first step towards a European Union that cares more about our rights online.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sweden has for a long time been known as an advanced IT nation with widespread computer use , broadband connections , IT companies and so on .
In the last few years that has come to change with new repressive laws like FRA [ wikipedia.org ] and IPRED [ wikipedia.org ] , but today we took back some of our lost pride .
It 's good to see that we give Europe a voice for a reformed copyright and patent law , free culture , and privacy and democracy on the Internet .
Even if it 's difficult for this person - most likely Christian Engstr   m [ wikipedia.org ] - to affect decisions directly among 735 other MPs , his presence will have two important consequences : 1 ) It gives Brussels some sorely needed competence on these issues to act as a counterweight against lobbyists trying to influence decisions .
2 ) It sends a message to the other parties that they can not continue ignoring the rights of their citizens forever .
I voted for the Pirate Party and I hope this result will be the first step towards a European Union that cares more about our rights online .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sweden has for a long time been known as an advanced IT nation with widespread computer use, broadband connections, IT companies and so on.
In the last few years that has come to change with new repressive laws like FRA [wikipedia.org] and IPRED [wikipedia.org], but today we took back some of our lost pride.
It's good to see that we give Europe a voice for a reformed copyright and patent law, free culture, and privacy and democracy on the Internet.
Even if it's difficult for this person - most likely Christian Engström [wikipedia.org] - to affect decisions directly among 735 other MPs, his presence will have two important consequences:  

1) It gives Brussels some sorely needed competence on these issues to act as a counterweight against lobbyists trying to influence decisions.
2) It sends a message to the other parties that they cannot continue ignoring the rights of their citizens forever.
I voted for the Pirate Party and I hope this result will be the first step towards a European Union that cares more about our rights online.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Good</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1244385000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do not agree with many of the Pirate Party proposals, but it's still good to see true, working democracy in action. It's how you change things if you want them changed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not agree with many of the Pirate Party proposals , but it 's still good to see true , working democracy in action .
It 's how you change things if you want them changed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do not agree with many of the Pirate Party proposals, but it's still good to see true, working democracy in action.
It's how you change things if you want them changed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28249569</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244467500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The US already has those raving, rabid, card carrying socialists but it doesn't balance anything.    We technically do have more then just the dems and repubs, the problem is that the way things are set up these are the only parties that get attention and funding.  This is why these parties lick the big business backside to get that money to maintain control.  Both of these parties are focused more on maintaining control then what is best for the country, they just go about it in different ways.  (Which is a discussion for a different time.)<br>I would also argue that we need a true republican voice.  You know someone who believes in pro-choice because the government shouldn't get involved, gay marriage because the government shouldn't get involved, lack of gun control because the government shouldn't get involved and that the primary purpose of the government is to protect the people from businesses and other governments.<br>Yea, I know, never going to happen but a man can dream.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US already has those raving , rabid , card carrying socialists but it does n't balance anything .
We technically do have more then just the dems and repubs , the problem is that the way things are set up these are the only parties that get attention and funding .
This is why these parties lick the big business backside to get that money to maintain control .
Both of these parties are focused more on maintaining control then what is best for the country , they just go about it in different ways .
( Which is a discussion for a different time .
) I would also argue that we need a true republican voice .
You know someone who believes in pro-choice because the government should n't get involved , gay marriage because the government should n't get involved , lack of gun control because the government should n't get involved and that the primary purpose of the government is to protect the people from businesses and other governments.Yea , I know , never going to happen but a man can dream .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US already has those raving, rabid, card carrying socialists but it doesn't balance anything.
We technically do have more then just the dems and repubs, the problem is that the way things are set up these are the only parties that get attention and funding.
This is why these parties lick the big business backside to get that money to maintain control.
Both of these parties are focused more on maintaining control then what is best for the country, they just go about it in different ways.
(Which is a discussion for a different time.
)I would also argue that we need a true republican voice.
You know someone who believes in pro-choice because the government shouldn't get involved, gay marriage because the government shouldn't get involved, lack of gun control because the government shouldn't get involved and that the primary purpose of the government is to protect the people from businesses and other governments.Yea, I know, never going to happen but a man can dream.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28251111</id>
	<title>Re:Like Communists</title>
	<author>TeknoHog</author>
	<datestamp>1244476500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>What does basic economics tell about digital goods, as they have an infinite supply and a zero marginal cost of production?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What does basic economics tell about digital goods , as they have an infinite supply and a zero marginal cost of production ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What does basic economics tell about digital goods, as they have an infinite supply and a zero marginal cost of production?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28248661</id>
	<title>Re:Seems to me like people in Europe enjoy more fr</title>
	<author>fastest fascist</author>
	<datestamp>1244457300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That may have been the case a while back, I'm not so sure anymore.  Internet censorship is being introduced across the board, police are being given the right to covertly install trojans on citizens' computers (germany, france at least, so expect EU-wide plans soon), there's constant pressure to pass three-strikes laws to force ISPs to disconnect users who allegedly download copyrighted material without authorization. In general the trend seems to be for more legislation of increasing complexity in all areas of life. This is not aided by the nature of EU decisionmaking, an obscure process extremely distant from the people it actually affects. The next great totalitarian state will be born not of hatred or passionate mass movements, but as the consequence of a relentless influx of new laws. The legislators have to do something to keep themselves busy, after all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That may have been the case a while back , I 'm not so sure anymore .
Internet censorship is being introduced across the board , police are being given the right to covertly install trojans on citizens ' computers ( germany , france at least , so expect EU-wide plans soon ) , there 's constant pressure to pass three-strikes laws to force ISPs to disconnect users who allegedly download copyrighted material without authorization .
In general the trend seems to be for more legislation of increasing complexity in all areas of life .
This is not aided by the nature of EU decisionmaking , an obscure process extremely distant from the people it actually affects .
The next great totalitarian state will be born not of hatred or passionate mass movements , but as the consequence of a relentless influx of new laws .
The legislators have to do something to keep themselves busy , after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That may have been the case a while back, I'm not so sure anymore.
Internet censorship is being introduced across the board, police are being given the right to covertly install trojans on citizens' computers (germany, france at least, so expect EU-wide plans soon), there's constant pressure to pass three-strikes laws to force ISPs to disconnect users who allegedly download copyrighted material without authorization.
In general the trend seems to be for more legislation of increasing complexity in all areas of life.
This is not aided by the nature of EU decisionmaking, an obscure process extremely distant from the people it actually affects.
The next great totalitarian state will be born not of hatred or passionate mass movements, but as the consequence of a relentless influx of new laws.
The legislators have to do something to keep themselves busy, after all.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244891</id>
	<title>Arrrr!</title>
	<author>realnrh</author>
	<datestamp>1244375220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whar be the swarthy sea-dogs in eyepatches and conical paper hats? 'Tis time to play Pin The Tail On The IP! And don't forget to trade the files on the USB sticks hidden in yer peg legs, me hearties!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whar be the swarthy sea-dogs in eyepatches and conical paper hats ?
'T is time to play Pin The Tail On The IP !
And do n't forget to trade the files on the USB sticks hidden in yer peg legs , me hearties !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whar be the swarthy sea-dogs in eyepatches and conical paper hats?
'Tis time to play Pin The Tail On The IP!
And don't forget to trade the files on the USB sticks hidden in yer peg legs, me hearties!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244347</id>
	<title>Bravo!</title>
	<author>siloko</author>
	<datestamp>1244371440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>A fantastic result. It seems that democratic representation means something even to filesharers! Who would have thought that they're not all teenage hoodies checking out of society!</htmltext>
<tokenext>A fantastic result .
It seems that democratic representation means something even to filesharers !
Who would have thought that they 're not all teenage hoodies checking out of society !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A fantastic result.
It seems that democratic representation means something even to filesharers!
Who would have thought that they're not all teenage hoodies checking out of society!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28248475</id>
	<title>Re:I'm following the elections-2nd seat not likely</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244455140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It has already been opened, the party got the required 5000 supporter-cards and they have been sent to be validified (check http://www.piraattipuolue.fi/english). Unfortunately this happened a bit too late for this election (two weeks I think, someone can correct). Waiting for Finland's national elections later on, I'm sure to vote for them.. =)<br>-Deepone</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It has already been opened , the party got the required 5000 supporter-cards and they have been sent to be validified ( check http : //www.piraattipuolue.fi/english ) .
Unfortunately this happened a bit too late for this election ( two weeks I think , someone can correct ) .
Waiting for Finland 's national elections later on , I 'm sure to vote for them.. = ) -Deepone</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It has already been opened, the party got the required 5000 supporter-cards and they have been sent to be validified (check http://www.piraattipuolue.fi/english).
Unfortunately this happened a bit too late for this election (two weeks I think, someone can correct).
Waiting for Finland's national elections later on, I'm sure to vote for them.. =)-Deepone</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28244581</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245063</id>
	<title>Established parties seems to have dropped the ball</title>
	<author>matsoo</author>
	<datestamp>1244376480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems the other parties completely missed the importance of this issue, the only other party that took this seriously and campaigned for increased protection of personal integrity was the Green Party, and they too seem to have gained an extra mandate from this issue.</p><p>The pirate party will most likely send Christian Engstr&ouml;m to Brussels, who actively (and successfully) campaigned against software patents in the EU as a member of FFII, so it will be very interesting to see what he can do these next 5 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems the other parties completely missed the importance of this issue , the only other party that took this seriously and campaigned for increased protection of personal integrity was the Green Party , and they too seem to have gained an extra mandate from this issue.The pirate party will most likely send Christian Engstr   m to Brussels , who actively ( and successfully ) campaigned against software patents in the EU as a member of FFII , so it will be very interesting to see what he can do these next 5 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems the other parties completely missed the importance of this issue, the only other party that took this seriously and campaigned for increased protection of personal integrity was the Green Party, and they too seem to have gained an extra mandate from this issue.The pirate party will most likely send Christian Engström to Brussels, who actively (and successfully) campaigned against software patents in the EU as a member of FFII, so it will be very interesting to see what he can do these next 5 years.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245611</id>
	<title>Re:I sure hope one seat doesn't matter much</title>
	<author>FourthAge</author>
	<datestamp>1244381100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MEPs do not do very much, and have very little power, although they are very well paid. The real power in Europe lies in an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European\_Commissioner" title="wikipedia.org">unelected soviet of 27 European Commissioners</a> [wikipedia.org]. None of these people are fascists, but they're not democrats either.</p><p>I live in that BNP MEP's region. Of course I voted against him, and it is a shame that he won his seat, but I am far more angry that people here are still voting for Labour, in spite of everything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MEPs do not do very much , and have very little power , although they are very well paid .
The real power in Europe lies in an unelected soviet of 27 European Commissioners [ wikipedia.org ] .
None of these people are fascists , but they 're not democrats either.I live in that BNP MEP 's region .
Of course I voted against him , and it is a shame that he won his seat , but I am far more angry that people here are still voting for Labour , in spite of everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MEPs do not do very much, and have very little power, although they are very well paid.
The real power in Europe lies in an unelected soviet of 27 European Commissioners [wikipedia.org].
None of these people are fascists, but they're not democrats either.I live in that BNP MEP's region.
Of course I voted against him, and it is a shame that he won his seat, but I am far more angry that people here are still voting for Labour, in spite of everything.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245329</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_2044217.28245017</id>
	<title>Re:And Democracy reins... not in the U. S. of A.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244376000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>How does my copyright on the code that I write harm the public, culture and future history?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How does my copyright on the code that I write harm the public , culture and future history ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How does my copyright on the code that I write harm the public, culture and future history?</sentencetext>
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