<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_05_1816257</id>
	<title>Apple To Face Challenge At WWDC</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1244231220000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:amcallahan12@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">Amanda Callahan</a> writes to tell us that Apple's upcoming WWDC could be <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/05/technology/companies/05apple.html?\_r=1&amp;ref=technology">quite a test</a> for the Cupertino powerhouse.  They will most likely be missing Steve Jobs for star-power and have extremely high expectations to meet in order to maintain their edge.  Thankfully it looks like Jobs will be <a href="http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/06/report-steve-jobs-recovered-set-for-timely-return-to-apple.ars">rejoining Apple later this month</a> with a good prognosis after facing severe health issues.  <i>"The competition is now catching up. Palm, Google, Microsoft, Nokia and Research in Motion, maker of the BlackBerry, are all at varying stages of developing and introducing their own iPhone-like devices and software, along with easily accessible stores for the small programs known as applications, or apps, that run on those devices. In some cases, those companies are releasing a greater variety of phones, on more wireless carriers around the world, than Apple.  To maintain its advantage, Apple must preserve the impression that it is far ahead of rivals when it comes to the capabilities and the 'cool' factor of its devices."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amanda Callahan writes to tell us that Apple 's upcoming WWDC could be quite a test for the Cupertino powerhouse .
They will most likely be missing Steve Jobs for star-power and have extremely high expectations to meet in order to maintain their edge .
Thankfully it looks like Jobs will be rejoining Apple later this month with a good prognosis after facing severe health issues .
" The competition is now catching up .
Palm , Google , Microsoft , Nokia and Research in Motion , maker of the BlackBerry , are all at varying stages of developing and introducing their own iPhone-like devices and software , along with easily accessible stores for the small programs known as applications , or apps , that run on those devices .
In some cases , those companies are releasing a greater variety of phones , on more wireless carriers around the world , than Apple .
To maintain its advantage , Apple must preserve the impression that it is far ahead of rivals when it comes to the capabilities and the 'cool ' factor of its devices .
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<sentencetext>Amanda Callahan writes to tell us that Apple's upcoming WWDC could be quite a test for the Cupertino powerhouse.
They will most likely be missing Steve Jobs for star-power and have extremely high expectations to meet in order to maintain their edge.
Thankfully it looks like Jobs will be rejoining Apple later this month with a good prognosis after facing severe health issues.
"The competition is now catching up.
Palm, Google, Microsoft, Nokia and Research in Motion, maker of the BlackBerry, are all at varying stages of developing and introducing their own iPhone-like devices and software, along with easily accessible stores for the small programs known as applications, or apps, that run on those devices.
In some cases, those companies are releasing a greater variety of phones, on more wireless carriers around the world, than Apple.
To maintain its advantage, Apple must preserve the impression that it is far ahead of rivals when it comes to the capabilities and the 'cool' factor of its devices.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227095</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>CannonballHead</author>
	<datestamp>1244193360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>just that Apple right now doesn't face any coherent competition</p></div><p>You are apparently really just speaking of two of Apple's "products" though: iPhone and Music.</p><p>Great.  What about hardware, operating systems/software...?  I would think the idea behind predicting Apple's downfall is really just counting how many of their eggs are in one basket, and how close others are at taking that basket.</p><p>OTOH, I'm not a fan of "Apple stinks" or "Apple is going down hill fast now that Jobs is gone" comments, either.  I also generally dislike the idea that Apple's iPhone is the greatest thing since MacOS... which usually comes from Apple-ite type people.  Not to mention that the comments along the lines of "Microsoft cannot produce any quality products [therefore, this new one can't be good]."</p><p>/random</p></div>
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<tokenext>just that Apple right now does n't face any coherent competitionYou are apparently really just speaking of two of Apple 's " products " though : iPhone and Music.Great .
What about hardware , operating systems/software... ?
I would think the idea behind predicting Apple 's downfall is really just counting how many of their eggs are in one basket , and how close others are at taking that basket.OTOH , I 'm not a fan of " Apple stinks " or " Apple is going down hill fast now that Jobs is gone " comments , either .
I also generally dislike the idea that Apple 's iPhone is the greatest thing since MacOS... which usually comes from Apple-ite type people .
Not to mention that the comments along the lines of " Microsoft can not produce any quality products [ therefore , this new one ca n't be good ] .
" /random</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just that Apple right now doesn't face any coherent competitionYou are apparently really just speaking of two of Apple's "products" though: iPhone and Music.Great.
What about hardware, operating systems/software...?
I would think the idea behind predicting Apple's downfall is really just counting how many of their eggs are in one basket, and how close others are at taking that basket.OTOH, I'm not a fan of "Apple stinks" or "Apple is going down hill fast now that Jobs is gone" comments, either.
I also generally dislike the idea that Apple's iPhone is the greatest thing since MacOS... which usually comes from Apple-ite type people.
Not to mention that the comments along the lines of "Microsoft cannot produce any quality products [therefore, this new one can't be good].
"/random
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227063</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244193180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe Microsoft has millions of Windows Mobile devices in users' hands, an established ecosystem, and the app store is forthcoming in the next version of Windows Mobile, Android's finally rolling out more phones, so they're going to start picking up steam, since they already have the app store.</p><p>And really, fuck Palm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe Microsoft has millions of Windows Mobile devices in users ' hands , an established ecosystem , and the app store is forthcoming in the next version of Windows Mobile , Android 's finally rolling out more phones , so they 're going to start picking up steam , since they already have the app store.And really , fuck Palm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe Microsoft has millions of Windows Mobile devices in users' hands, an established ecosystem, and the app store is forthcoming in the next version of Windows Mobile, Android's finally rolling out more phones, so they're going to start picking up steam, since they already have the app store.And really, fuck Palm.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28228675</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing insight from Mr Genius</title>
	<author>s73v3r</author>
	<datestamp>1244203860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is America. Just because you make a product that people don't actually want or need is no reason why you shouldn't have unfettered success.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is America .
Just because you make a product that people do n't actually want or need is no reason why you should n't have unfettered success .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is America.
Just because you make a product that people don't actually want or need is no reason why you shouldn't have unfettered success.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227607</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing insight from Mr Genius</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244196720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Amazing insight from Mr Genius"<br> <br>"If they start making products people don't want, and start losing users, then Apple's strategy will run into problems," said Benjamin Reitzes, an analyst at Barclays Capital.</p></div><p> <b>Microsoft</b> <br>To be fair, everyone seems to hate the company and have nothing but bitter contempt for all of their products... but Microsoft is indeed doing OK.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Amazing insight from Mr Genius " " If they start making products people do n't want , and start losing users , then Apple 's strategy will run into problems , " said Benjamin Reitzes , an analyst at Barclays Capital .
Microsoft To be fair , everyone seems to hate the company and have nothing but bitter contempt for all of their products... but Microsoft is indeed doing OK .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Amazing insight from Mr Genius" "If they start making products people don't want, and start losing users, then Apple's strategy will run into problems," said Benjamin Reitzes, an analyst at Barclays Capital.
Microsoft To be fair, everyone seems to hate the company and have nothing but bitter contempt for all of their products... but Microsoft is indeed doing OK.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28229915</id>
	<title>Re:Jobs Health</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244219760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right, instead, we should keep everyone alive, even those who don't work hard and just leech off society, because we have plenty of resources for all of the 10 billion people we'll have in a few years.</p><p>Maybe I'm being bitter right now, but I'll be more inclined to go along with a "let's save every life" model when doing so doesn't overload and destroy the very ecosystem which keeps us ALL alive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right , instead , we should keep everyone alive , even those who do n't work hard and just leech off society , because we have plenty of resources for all of the 10 billion people we 'll have in a few years.Maybe I 'm being bitter right now , but I 'll be more inclined to go along with a " let 's save every life " model when doing so does n't overload and destroy the very ecosystem which keeps us ALL alive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right, instead, we should keep everyone alive, even those who don't work hard and just leech off society, because we have plenty of resources for all of the 10 billion people we'll have in a few years.Maybe I'm being bitter right now, but I'll be more inclined to go along with a "let's save every life" model when doing so doesn't overload and destroy the very ecosystem which keeps us ALL alive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28251227</id>
	<title>Re:30" OLED displays</title>
	<author>Gilmoure</author>
	<datestamp>1244477100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226929</id>
	<title>executive summary of comments</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244192520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ITT:</p><p>Apple fanboys: "Good health to you, Steve ol' chum!" "LOL the competition are playing catch-up they'll never catch-up!" "I wonder what new wallpapers iPhone OS 3.0 will have - not allowing background apps is such a good idea, you know!"</p><p>Everyone else: "$600 for a fashion statement? No thanks." "Hurrr Apple users are gay." "Apple doesn't innnovate, it integrates."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ITT : Apple fanboys : " Good health to you , Steve ol ' chum !
" " LOL the competition are playing catch-up they 'll never catch-up !
" " I wonder what new wallpapers iPhone OS 3.0 will have - not allowing background apps is such a good idea , you know !
" Everyone else : " $ 600 for a fashion statement ?
No thanks .
" " Hurrr Apple users are gay .
" " Apple does n't innnovate , it integrates .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ITT:Apple fanboys: "Good health to you, Steve ol' chum!
" "LOL the competition are playing catch-up they'll never catch-up!
" "I wonder what new wallpapers iPhone OS 3.0 will have - not allowing background apps is such a good idea, you know!
"Everyone else: "$600 for a fashion statement?
No thanks.
" "Hurrr Apple users are gay.
" "Apple doesn't innnovate, it integrates.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226875</id>
	<title>iPod market take over repeat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244235480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to reports, Apple will have a slew of iPhones from 4GB all the way up to 32GB.</p><p>The data/rate plans will most likely also change.</p><p>Apple is going to corner the smartphone market from the top down, like they did with the iPod.</p><p>In fact to top things off even further, I bet they spun off Rubenstein and Co to make the "Pre" to appeal to the more RIM business type crowd who see's the iPhone as just a toy, not a tool.</p><p>The fact that the Pre id's itself as a "Apple iPod" to iTunes for synching may mean Apple is turning a blind eye or somehow involved with Pre.</p><p>Oh yea, prepare for a market assault by Apple.</p><p>Short RIM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to reports , Apple will have a slew of iPhones from 4GB all the way up to 32GB.The data/rate plans will most likely also change.Apple is going to corner the smartphone market from the top down , like they did with the iPod.In fact to top things off even further , I bet they spun off Rubenstein and Co to make the " Pre " to appeal to the more RIM business type crowd who see 's the iPhone as just a toy , not a tool.The fact that the Pre id 's itself as a " Apple iPod " to iTunes for synching may mean Apple is turning a blind eye or somehow involved with Pre.Oh yea , prepare for a market assault by Apple.Short RIM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to reports, Apple will have a slew of iPhones from 4GB all the way up to 32GB.The data/rate plans will most likely also change.Apple is going to corner the smartphone market from the top down, like they did with the iPod.In fact to top things off even further, I bet they spun off Rubenstein and Co to make the "Pre" to appeal to the more RIM business type crowd who see's the iPhone as just a toy, not a tool.The fact that the Pre id's itself as a "Apple iPod" to iTunes for synching may mean Apple is turning a blind eye or somehow involved with Pre.Oh yea, prepare for a market assault by Apple.Short RIM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28233037</id>
	<title>Re:"Catching up" is the key phrase</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1244304000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>They lead, they don't follow. That's why the competition are catching up to them, and not the reverse.</i></p><p>No, they don't, and that's not true. PhOnEs were around, and continually rapidly advancing in technology, <i>years</i> before the Iphone joined the market, and now they're just one of many phones in the high end market. A pretty nifty phone if it matches your requirements perhaps, but not the be all and end all of phones, not the market leader, not the dominant player. Sure, perhaps Apple might have been first to add one feature in the Iphone, but all the companies were first with one thing or another, there's nothing special. That's how the market works. And there are plenty of things that Apple have been playing catch-up on, even things that are bog standard on cheap phones, and which took ages for Apple to add, if they have at all yet (3G, video, MMS, Java, copy/paste). And before anyone starts pleading "But I don't need that feature", my point is not whether features are good or bad, simply that singling out Apple as "leading" and other companies as "following" clearly makes no sense, when there is no end of demonstrable features that other companies had first, and Apple followed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They lead , they do n't follow .
That 's why the competition are catching up to them , and not the reverse.No , they do n't , and that 's not true .
PhOnEs were around , and continually rapidly advancing in technology , years before the Iphone joined the market , and now they 're just one of many phones in the high end market .
A pretty nifty phone if it matches your requirements perhaps , but not the be all and end all of phones , not the market leader , not the dominant player .
Sure , perhaps Apple might have been first to add one feature in the Iphone , but all the companies were first with one thing or another , there 's nothing special .
That 's how the market works .
And there are plenty of things that Apple have been playing catch-up on , even things that are bog standard on cheap phones , and which took ages for Apple to add , if they have at all yet ( 3G , video , MMS , Java , copy/paste ) .
And before anyone starts pleading " But I do n't need that feature " , my point is not whether features are good or bad , simply that singling out Apple as " leading " and other companies as " following " clearly makes no sense , when there is no end of demonstrable features that other companies had first , and Apple followed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They lead, they don't follow.
That's why the competition are catching up to them, and not the reverse.No, they don't, and that's not true.
PhOnEs were around, and continually rapidly advancing in technology, years before the Iphone joined the market, and now they're just one of many phones in the high end market.
A pretty nifty phone if it matches your requirements perhaps, but not the be all and end all of phones, not the market leader, not the dominant player.
Sure, perhaps Apple might have been first to add one feature in the Iphone, but all the companies were first with one thing or another, there's nothing special.
That's how the market works.
And there are plenty of things that Apple have been playing catch-up on, even things that are bog standard on cheap phones, and which took ages for Apple to add, if they have at all yet (3G, video, MMS, Java, copy/paste).
And before anyone starts pleading "But I don't need that feature", my point is not whether features are good or bad, simply that singling out Apple as "leading" and other companies as "following" clearly makes no sense, when there is no end of demonstrable features that other companies had first, and Apple followed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227169</id>
	<title>Catching up? Hah!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244193840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most non-iphones have a very important characteristic: the OWNER of the phone CONTROLS the phone.</p><p>With the iphone, APPLE CONTROLS THE PHONE, not the owner. Trying to do something not blessed by Apple? Sorry, might get disabled at any time. The iphone owner doesn't really own it, they're just renting the Apple Experience(TM).</p><p>Non-iphones can do other cool things, like the revolutionary CUT &amp; PASTE technology. Or MMS, which has been available on non-iphones for what, a decade?</p><p>Call me when Apple starts to catch up with the rest of the smartphone market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most non-iphones have a very important characteristic : the OWNER of the phone CONTROLS the phone.With the iphone , APPLE CONTROLS THE PHONE , not the owner .
Trying to do something not blessed by Apple ?
Sorry , might get disabled at any time .
The iphone owner does n't really own it , they 're just renting the Apple Experience ( TM ) .Non-iphones can do other cool things , like the revolutionary CUT &amp; PASTE technology .
Or MMS , which has been available on non-iphones for what , a decade ? Call me when Apple starts to catch up with the rest of the smartphone market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most non-iphones have a very important characteristic: the OWNER of the phone CONTROLS the phone.With the iphone, APPLE CONTROLS THE PHONE, not the owner.
Trying to do something not blessed by Apple?
Sorry, might get disabled at any time.
The iphone owner doesn't really own it, they're just renting the Apple Experience(TM).Non-iphones can do other cool things, like the revolutionary CUT &amp; PASTE technology.
Or MMS, which has been available on non-iphones for what, a decade?Call me when Apple starts to catch up with the rest of the smartphone market.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227563</id>
	<title>Re:Catching up? Hah!</title>
	<author>david\_thornley</author>
	<datestamp>1244196480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Most non-iphones have a very important characteristic: the OWNER of the phone CONTROLS the phone.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
You're not from the US, are you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most non-iphones have a very important characteristic : the OWNER of the phone CONTROLS the phone .
You 're not from the US , are you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most non-iphones have a very important characteristic: the OWNER of the phone CONTROLS the phone.
You're not from the US, are you?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28243715</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing insight from Mr Genius</title>
	<author>Mattsson</author>
	<datestamp>1244365980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the other hand, Microsoft has the enviable position where most proprietary software used professionally are only available to users of their OS.<br>Some are available to OSX-users too, and a small subset are also available to Unix-users.<br>OSX can only be run on Apple PC's, so other OEM's can't ship OSX instead of Windows if they should want to ditch Microsoft.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand , Microsoft has the enviable position where most proprietary software used professionally are only available to users of their OS.Some are available to OSX-users too , and a small subset are also available to Unix-users.OSX can only be run on Apple PC 's , so other OEM 's ca n't ship OSX instead of Windows if they should want to ditch Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the other hand, Microsoft has the enviable position where most proprietary software used professionally are only available to users of their OS.Some are available to OSX-users too, and a small subset are also available to Unix-users.OSX can only be run on Apple PC's, so other OEM's can't ship OSX instead of Windows if they should want to ditch Microsoft.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28230103</id>
	<title>Apple doesn't have to prove anything ...</title>
	<author>P. Legba</author>
	<datestamp>1244222640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... about cool. The other guys do. Apple's already there and moving forward. They're revolutionizing human communication. Again.</p><p>And while I may or may not have been smoking hoodah, I think Jobs has been working secretly behind the scenes on a new project, let's call it One More Thing.</p><p>Let me know when they start giving away iPhones. I want in on that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... about cool .
The other guys do .
Apple 's already there and moving forward .
They 're revolutionizing human communication .
Again.And while I may or may not have been smoking hoodah , I think Jobs has been working secretly behind the scenes on a new project , let 's call it One More Thing.Let me know when they start giving away iPhones .
I want in on that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... about cool.
The other guys do.
Apple's already there and moving forward.
They're revolutionizing human communication.
Again.And while I may or may not have been smoking hoodah, I think Jobs has been working secretly behind the scenes on a new project, let's call it One More Thing.Let me know when they start giving away iPhones.
I want in on that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28231231</id>
	<title>Etc Etc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244283120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"and introducing their own iPhone-like devices"</p><p>Dream-on fuckers</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" and introducing their own iPhone-like devices " Dream-on fuckers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"and introducing their own iPhone-like devices"Dream-on fuckers</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28228057</id>
	<title>Whaaa....?</title>
	<author>CrankinOut</author>
	<datestamp>1244199720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>-&gt;rant&gt;<br>Two years ago, the competition were doing nothing. Apple steps in, re-invents the smart phone making it a delight to use. One year ago, they produced the 3G enabled phone. Meanwhile, the rest of the "smart phone" companies said, "hey, we can copy that!"</p><p>Now, journalists and analysts are stating what Apple "must do."  Whatever happened to reporters "reporting" news and not trying to show how they could run a company better than its management?<br>-&gt;/rant&gt;</p><p>In the phone business, people will (a) buy what they want, or (b) use what their company allows them to use on the company plan. So, big companies will do big deals and stick with what they have, small companies will not get the great deals and have more flexibility, and consumers will buy what they want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>- &gt; rant &gt; Two years ago , the competition were doing nothing .
Apple steps in , re-invents the smart phone making it a delight to use .
One year ago , they produced the 3G enabled phone .
Meanwhile , the rest of the " smart phone " companies said , " hey , we can copy that !
" Now , journalists and analysts are stating what Apple " must do .
" Whatever happened to reporters " reporting " news and not trying to show how they could run a company better than its management ? - &gt; /rant &gt; In the phone business , people will ( a ) buy what they want , or ( b ) use what their company allows them to use on the company plan .
So , big companies will do big deals and stick with what they have , small companies will not get the great deals and have more flexibility , and consumers will buy what they want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-&gt;rant&gt;Two years ago, the competition were doing nothing.
Apple steps in, re-invents the smart phone making it a delight to use.
One year ago, they produced the 3G enabled phone.
Meanwhile, the rest of the "smart phone" companies said, "hey, we can copy that!
"Now, journalists and analysts are stating what Apple "must do.
"  Whatever happened to reporters "reporting" news and not trying to show how they could run a company better than its management?-&gt;/rant&gt;In the phone business, people will (a) buy what they want, or (b) use what their company allows them to use on the company plan.
So, big companies will do big deals and stick with what they have, small companies will not get the great deals and have more flexibility, and consumers will buy what they want.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28231117</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>Wovel</author>
	<datestamp>1244281320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For the fourth time in this thread...Iphone service samey pricey other smart phone service. Understandy nowey.  Pleasey showey meey smarty phoney costy lessy monthy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the fourth time in this thread...Iphone service samey pricey other smart phone service .
Understandy nowey .
Pleasey showey meey smarty phoney costy lessy monthy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the fourth time in this thread...Iphone service samey pricey other smart phone service.
Understandy nowey.
Pleasey showey meey smarty phoney costy lessy monthy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227349</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28245589</id>
	<title>For the record.</title>
	<author>Sybert42</author>
	<datestamp>1244380980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WWDC 2009.  16GB/32GB.  OLED.  Front facing camera...only!  Video recording.  RAM/proc upgrades.  Compass.  $200/$300.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WWDC 2009 .
16GB/32GB. OLED .
Front facing camera...only !
Video recording .
RAM/proc upgrades .
Compass. $ 200/ $ 300 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WWDC 2009.
16GB/32GB.  OLED.
Front facing camera...only!
Video recording.
RAM/proc upgrades.
Compass.  $200/$300.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227775</id>
	<title>Re:"Catching up" is the key phrase</title>
	<author>EvilNTUser</author>
	<datestamp>1244197800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"the competition is now catching up"</p><p>Assuming they've kept their edge, that statement is the key: They lead, they don't follow. That's why the competition are catching up to them, and not the reverse. Provided they keep doing that, there is little room for error to occur</p></div><p>That's an amazingly arrogant attitude that Apple would do well to not share.  Apple may have the edge in ease of use, but they never had an edge in anything else.  If the competition can catch up on designing good user interfaces before Apple can catch up on hardware and features, there is actually very much room for error.</p><p>I get that the UI is most important for many, but it's lame to ignore everything else.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" the competition is now catching up " Assuming they 've kept their edge , that statement is the key : They lead , they do n't follow .
That 's why the competition are catching up to them , and not the reverse .
Provided they keep doing that , there is little room for error to occurThat 's an amazingly arrogant attitude that Apple would do well to not share .
Apple may have the edge in ease of use , but they never had an edge in anything else .
If the competition can catch up on designing good user interfaces before Apple can catch up on hardware and features , there is actually very much room for error.I get that the UI is most important for many , but it 's lame to ignore everything else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the competition is now catching up"Assuming they've kept their edge, that statement is the key: They lead, they don't follow.
That's why the competition are catching up to them, and not the reverse.
Provided they keep doing that, there is little room for error to occurThat's an amazingly arrogant attitude that Apple would do well to not share.
Apple may have the edge in ease of use, but they never had an edge in anything else.
If the competition can catch up on designing good user interfaces before Apple can catch up on hardware and features, there is actually very much room for error.I get that the UI is most important for many, but it's lame to ignore everything else.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226865</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227587</id>
	<title>Captain Obvious and the sarcasm gang</title>
	<author>CHK6</author>
	<datestamp>1244196660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow what a horrid technology article. First it informs the readers that RIM is the maker of the BlackBerry (you don;t say!) and that programs are applications also known as "apps"(yet another shocker to me). Then the whole article is about how Apple faces competition from rivals ( I can only muster a blank stare at this moment). Was this article written at an airport terminal before boarding? Wow, what impressive journalism the NYTimes has. They assembled what has to be the best crack team of reporters in the business. Digging deep and bringing the public the most obvious and non-news worthy information to the masses.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow what a horrid technology article .
First it informs the readers that RIM is the maker of the BlackBerry ( you don ; t say !
) and that programs are applications also known as " apps " ( yet another shocker to me ) .
Then the whole article is about how Apple faces competition from rivals ( I can only muster a blank stare at this moment ) .
Was this article written at an airport terminal before boarding ?
Wow , what impressive journalism the NYTimes has .
They assembled what has to be the best crack team of reporters in the business .
Digging deep and bringing the public the most obvious and non-news worthy information to the masses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow what a horrid technology article.
First it informs the readers that RIM is the maker of the BlackBerry (you don;t say!
) and that programs are applications also known as "apps"(yet another shocker to me).
Then the whole article is about how Apple faces competition from rivals ( I can only muster a blank stare at this moment).
Was this article written at an airport terminal before boarding?
Wow, what impressive journalism the NYTimes has.
They assembled what has to be the best crack team of reporters in the business.
Digging deep and bringing the public the most obvious and non-news worthy information to the masses.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226937</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing insight from Mr Genius</title>
	<author>cheftw</author>
	<datestamp>1244192520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My sarcasm detector is showing giving a very strong reading from your title.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My sarcasm detector is showing giving a very strong reading from your title .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My sarcasm detector is showing giving a very strong reading from your title.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226775</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227019</id>
	<title>Re:Jobs Health</title>
	<author>LSDelirious</author>
	<datestamp>1244193000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>maybe that's why we haven't seen much of him lately, hes been hard at work on a new iPancreas, which will not only produce insulin but will transmit blood sugar levels to his iPhone via bluetooth</htmltext>
<tokenext>maybe that 's why we have n't seen much of him lately , hes been hard at work on a new iPancreas , which will not only produce insulin but will transmit blood sugar levels to his iPhone via bluetooth</tokentext>
<sentencetext>maybe that's why we haven't seen much of him lately, hes been hard at work on a new iPancreas, which will not only produce insulin but will transmit blood sugar levels to his iPhone via bluetooth</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226889</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227219</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing insight from Mr Genius</title>
	<author>newcastlejon</author>
	<datestamp>1244194140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He's a banker, you can't expect imagination from him. If he were an accountant, though... they can be very creative.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's a banker , you ca n't expect imagination from him .
If he were an accountant , though... they can be very creative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's a banker, you can't expect imagination from him.
If he were an accountant, though... they can be very creative.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226775</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227561</id>
	<title>Re:30" OLED displays</title>
	<author>Hijacked Public</author>
	<datestamp>1244196480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd pay 7k for a 30" OLED in a heartbeat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd pay 7k for a 30 " OLED in a heartbeat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd pay 7k for a 30" OLED in a heartbeat.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227109</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227121</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244193540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Palm Pre's app store is crashy? It didn't even come out yet, did it? Plus, your ignorance in saying web-based apps is all it has is astounding. WebOS-based apps are not the same as web-apps. Plus, the "different hardware models" you speak of are based on comparing the current model to one that doesn't exist yet. Its quite possible they'll be the same except using a different radio (CDMA instead of GSM). In fact, when it comes down to it, there's not much more to be different than there was between the various iPhone models. Plus,  that music juggernaut looks like it'll becoming an attractive point for the Pre as well. That established ecosystem of an app store isn't invincible. The current app stores aren't failing, but its true, they haven't caught up to the iPhone yet either. However, just because it hasn't happened yet isn't to say it can't happen. Also, I rarely read articles that are trying to predict apple failing, in fact, this is the first. And i don't see many gloating about MS. In fact, I can only recall very few. Most of your rant is using baseless conjecture that is mostly incorrect. You are trolling, you just don't realize it. You're one of those fanboys who just don't realize they are one. I own an iPhone 3G, yet even I gotta call you out on this.<br> <br> I'm excited about the Pre.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Palm Pre 's app store is crashy ?
It did n't even come out yet , did it ?
Plus , your ignorance in saying web-based apps is all it has is astounding .
WebOS-based apps are not the same as web-apps .
Plus , the " different hardware models " you speak of are based on comparing the current model to one that does n't exist yet .
Its quite possible they 'll be the same except using a different radio ( CDMA instead of GSM ) .
In fact , when it comes down to it , there 's not much more to be different than there was between the various iPhone models .
Plus , that music juggernaut looks like it 'll becoming an attractive point for the Pre as well .
That established ecosystem of an app store is n't invincible .
The current app stores are n't failing , but its true , they have n't caught up to the iPhone yet either .
However , just because it has n't happened yet is n't to say it ca n't happen .
Also , I rarely read articles that are trying to predict apple failing , in fact , this is the first .
And i do n't see many gloating about MS. In fact , I can only recall very few .
Most of your rant is using baseless conjecture that is mostly incorrect .
You are trolling , you just do n't realize it .
You 're one of those fanboys who just do n't realize they are one .
I own an iPhone 3G , yet even I got ta call you out on this .
I 'm excited about the Pre .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Palm Pre's app store is crashy?
It didn't even come out yet, did it?
Plus, your ignorance in saying web-based apps is all it has is astounding.
WebOS-based apps are not the same as web-apps.
Plus, the "different hardware models" you speak of are based on comparing the current model to one that doesn't exist yet.
Its quite possible they'll be the same except using a different radio (CDMA instead of GSM).
In fact, when it comes down to it, there's not much more to be different than there was between the various iPhone models.
Plus,  that music juggernaut looks like it'll becoming an attractive point for the Pre as well.
That established ecosystem of an app store isn't invincible.
The current app stores aren't failing, but its true, they haven't caught up to the iPhone yet either.
However, just because it hasn't happened yet isn't to say it can't happen.
Also, I rarely read articles that are trying to predict apple failing, in fact, this is the first.
And i don't see many gloating about MS. In fact, I can only recall very few.
Most of your rant is using baseless conjecture that is mostly incorrect.
You are trolling, you just don't realize it.
You're one of those fanboys who just don't realize they are one.
I own an iPhone 3G, yet even I gotta call you out on this.
I'm excited about the Pre.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226871</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28255689</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>Medievalist</author>
	<datestamp>1244452740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><blockquote><div><p>Tulips and iPhones will still exist, but they won't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more, and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility.</p></div></blockquote><p>Except that emotional baggage isn't what sells iPhones. It's primarily function and utility.</p></div></blockquote><p>The replies to my post, and my observations of iPhone users, convince me that you are mistaken.</p><p>If you say, "Cola sucks.  I like iced tea" otherwise sane people don't write ten thousand word threads to prove that you have misjudged the perfect and god-like attributes of cola.  Because cola is not (currently) a fad.  If you say "iPhones and iPods suck.  I like cheap chinese MP3 players and Go-phones" people's heads spin around on their shoulders, and earnest, well-meaning people drop everything to preach you the true faith.  <i>Unmistakably</i> a fad.</p><p>It's OK to have an iPhone/iPod, it's OK to like it, it's OK to pay more than it might objectively be worth if that brings you pleasure.  Rock on, people!  But one day the fad will pass, and the people who still want and like the devices will not have to pay so much for them.  Nothing wrong with that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tulips and iPhones will still exist , but they wo n't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more , and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility.Except that emotional baggage is n't what sells iPhones .
It 's primarily function and utility.The replies to my post , and my observations of iPhone users , convince me that you are mistaken.If you say , " Cola sucks .
I like iced tea " otherwise sane people do n't write ten thousand word threads to prove that you have misjudged the perfect and god-like attributes of cola .
Because cola is not ( currently ) a fad .
If you say " iPhones and iPods suck .
I like cheap chinese MP3 players and Go-phones " people 's heads spin around on their shoulders , and earnest , well-meaning people drop everything to preach you the true faith .
Unmistakably a fad.It 's OK to have an iPhone/iPod , it 's OK to like it , it 's OK to pay more than it might objectively be worth if that brings you pleasure .
Rock on , people !
But one day the fad will pass , and the people who still want and like the devices will not have to pay so much for them .
Nothing wrong with that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tulips and iPhones will still exist, but they won't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more, and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility.Except that emotional baggage isn't what sells iPhones.
It's primarily function and utility.The replies to my post, and my observations of iPhone users, convince me that you are mistaken.If you say, "Cola sucks.
I like iced tea" otherwise sane people don't write ten thousand word threads to prove that you have misjudged the perfect and god-like attributes of cola.
Because cola is not (currently) a fad.
If you say "iPhones and iPods suck.
I like cheap chinese MP3 players and Go-phones" people's heads spin around on their shoulders, and earnest, well-meaning people drop everything to preach you the true faith.
Unmistakably a fad.It's OK to have an iPhone/iPod, it's OK to like it, it's OK to pay more than it might objectively be worth if that brings you pleasure.
Rock on, people!
But one day the fad will pass, and the people who still want and like the devices will not have to pay so much for them.
Nothing wrong with that.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227493</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28229123</id>
	<title>Re:Jobs Health</title>
	<author>GoodNicksAreTaken</author>
	<datestamp>1244208300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>hes been hard at work on a new iPancreas, which will not only produce insulin but will transmit blood sugar levels to his iPhone via bluetooth</p></div><p>If that is what it takes to get full bluetooth support on my iPhone I hope that Steve's other organs fail also.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>hes been hard at work on a new iPancreas , which will not only produce insulin but will transmit blood sugar levels to his iPhone via bluetoothIf that is what it takes to get full bluetooth support on my iPhone I hope that Steve 's other organs fail also .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hes been hard at work on a new iPancreas, which will not only produce insulin but will transmit blood sugar levels to his iPhone via bluetoothIf that is what it takes to get full bluetooth support on my iPhone I hope that Steve's other organs fail also.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227019</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226847</id>
	<title>Cool.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244235420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because that's the most important "feature" I look for when I buy a new $600 device.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because that 's the most important " feature " I look for when I buy a new $ 600 device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because that's the most important "feature" I look for when I buy a new $600 device.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28229295</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing insight from Mr Genius</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1244211180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow Benjamin is a Master of the Obvious!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow Benjamin is a Master of the Obvious !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow Benjamin is a Master of the Obvious!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226775</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28229077</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>WCguru42</author>
	<datestamp>1244207700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>no sane person thinks $100 a month is a reasonable price for phone service, but they buy iPhones anyway.</p></div><p>Maybe that's because I only spend $75 a month.  Considering what data plans used to cost the iPhone really isn't that expensive.  Now, as competition increases the unlimited date rates aren't nearly as impressive as they were 2-3 years ago.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>no sane person thinks $ 100 a month is a reasonable price for phone service , but they buy iPhones anyway.Maybe that 's because I only spend $ 75 a month .
Considering what data plans used to cost the iPhone really is n't that expensive .
Now , as competition increases the unlimited date rates are n't nearly as impressive as they were 2-3 years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no sane person thinks $100 a month is a reasonable price for phone service, but they buy iPhones anyway.Maybe that's because I only spend $75 a month.
Considering what data plans used to cost the iPhone really isn't that expensive.
Now, as competition increases the unlimited date rates aren't nearly as impressive as they were 2-3 years ago.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227349</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28228359</id>
	<title>Re:Apple's is losing its margins</title>
	<author>KaptajnKold</author>
	<datestamp>1244201700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <em>That's starting to slip as iPhone and iPod prices come down</em> </p><p>It's not Apples MO to drop prices. Rather, they introduce new models and keep the prices level.</p><p> <em>Apple's reaction so far has been to raise iTunes prices.</em> </p><p>The changed prices in the iTMS has been a reaction to nothing other than the fact that this was a demand posed by the record companies in exchange for them allowing Apple to provide DRM-free versions of their entire catalogues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's starting to slip as iPhone and iPod prices come down It 's not Apples MO to drop prices .
Rather , they introduce new models and keep the prices level .
Apple 's reaction so far has been to raise iTunes prices .
The changed prices in the iTMS has been a reaction to nothing other than the fact that this was a demand posed by the record companies in exchange for them allowing Apple to provide DRM-free versions of their entire catalogues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> That's starting to slip as iPhone and iPod prices come down It's not Apples MO to drop prices.
Rather, they introduce new models and keep the prices level.
Apple's reaction so far has been to raise iTunes prices.
The changed prices in the iTMS has been a reaction to nothing other than the fact that this was a demand posed by the record companies in exchange for them allowing Apple to provide DRM-free versions of their entire catalogues.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226983</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28241137</id>
	<title>Re:"Catching up" is the key phrase</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1244387880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Engineering tradeoffs--I prefer UI not suffer at the expense of other things, like long "feature" lists and "legacy support" that Microsoft is so in love with.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Engineering tradeoffs--I prefer UI not suffer at the expense of other things , like long " feature " lists and " legacy support " that Microsoft is so in love with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Engineering tradeoffs--I prefer UI not suffer at the expense of other things, like long "feature" lists and "legacy support" that Microsoft is so in love with.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227775</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227187</id>
	<title>News reporter reading level</title>
	<author>bkaul</author>
	<datestamp>1244193900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>We recently had a local news crew visit my place of employment, a research laboratory.  Those interviewed were told to explain things at a "7th grade reading level."  I think that explains a lot of the inane comments made by people in news interviews.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We recently had a local news crew visit my place of employment , a research laboratory .
Those interviewed were told to explain things at a " 7th grade reading level .
" I think that explains a lot of the inane comments made by people in news interviews .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We recently had a local news crew visit my place of employment, a research laboratory.
Those interviewed were told to explain things at a "7th grade reading level.
"  I think that explains a lot of the inane comments made by people in news interviews.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227387</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>CaptSaltyJack</author>
	<datestamp>1244195100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thank you, this is exactly what I wanted to say. The iPhone/iPod Touch is in no danger of being overtaken by the competition any time soon... I almost laughed when I read the bit about MS, Palm, Google, etc. catching up. I know this sounds fanboyish, but to be completely honest, I don't have any product loyalty. I use whatever I feel is the best gadget for me and my purposes, and at this point in time, my iPhone 3G does everything (and more) that I need/want in a phone and mobile PDA. Apple has spent far more time and research on user interfaces and usability than the competitors, I think, and it shows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you , this is exactly what I wanted to say .
The iPhone/iPod Touch is in no danger of being overtaken by the competition any time soon... I almost laughed when I read the bit about MS , Palm , Google , etc .
catching up .
I know this sounds fanboyish , but to be completely honest , I do n't have any product loyalty .
I use whatever I feel is the best gadget for me and my purposes , and at this point in time , my iPhone 3G does everything ( and more ) that I need/want in a phone and mobile PDA .
Apple has spent far more time and research on user interfaces and usability than the competitors , I think , and it shows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you, this is exactly what I wanted to say.
The iPhone/iPod Touch is in no danger of being overtaken by the competition any time soon... I almost laughed when I read the bit about MS, Palm, Google, etc.
catching up.
I know this sounds fanboyish, but to be completely honest, I don't have any product loyalty.
I use whatever I feel is the best gadget for me and my purposes, and at this point in time, my iPhone 3G does everything (and more) that I need/want in a phone and mobile PDA.
Apple has spent far more time and research on user interfaces and usability than the competitors, I think, and it shows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227599</id>
	<title>Re:Heh...</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1244196720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So Apple, as a newcomer to the industry, is now making others in the same space play catch up to them.</p></div><p>Right, and I think that's why the news media is demanding (wrongly) that Apple blows the door of the hinges at WWDC.  They saw Apple go from nothing to an industry leader (in the mobile industry) in the space of a year or two, and they're thinking to themselves, "How can Apple keep that pace up?!  They're definitely going to falter!"  Bu the truth is Apple doesn't <i>need</i> to keep that pace up.  All they have to do is release solid updates that will fix some of the problems people have with their products, throw in a couple of new good features, and continue to win converts.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So Apple , as a newcomer to the industry , is now making others in the same space play catch up to them.Right , and I think that 's why the news media is demanding ( wrongly ) that Apple blows the door of the hinges at WWDC .
They saw Apple go from nothing to an industry leader ( in the mobile industry ) in the space of a year or two , and they 're thinking to themselves , " How can Apple keep that pace up ? !
They 're definitely going to falter !
" Bu the truth is Apple does n't need to keep that pace up .
All they have to do is release solid updates that will fix some of the problems people have with their products , throw in a couple of new good features , and continue to win converts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Apple, as a newcomer to the industry, is now making others in the same space play catch up to them.Right, and I think that's why the news media is demanding (wrongly) that Apple blows the door of the hinges at WWDC.
They saw Apple go from nothing to an industry leader (in the mobile industry) in the space of a year or two, and they're thinking to themselves, "How can Apple keep that pace up?!
They're definitely going to falter!
"  Bu the truth is Apple doesn't need to keep that pace up.
All they have to do is release solid updates that will fix some of the problems people have with their products, throw in a couple of new good features, and continue to win converts.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227465</id>
	<title>Re:"Catching up" is the key phrase</title>
	<author>timeOday</author>
	<datestamp>1244195700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Remember, Apple managed to vault from late-comer to leadership in the first place.  The blurb is just hand-wringing about things being as they have always been!   Competitors are at "all at varying stages of developing and introducing their own iPhone-like devices and software, along with easily accessible stores for [] apps"...  "In some cases, those companies are releasing a greater variety of phones, on more wireless carriers around the world, than Apple."  That was all true even <i>before</i> the iPhone; Apple was among the <i>last</i> companies to introduce an iPhone-like device!  Just as the iPod was one of the later mp3 players on the market, yet became the standard by which others were measured.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember , Apple managed to vault from late-comer to leadership in the first place .
The blurb is just hand-wringing about things being as they have always been !
Competitors are at " all at varying stages of developing and introducing their own iPhone-like devices and software , along with easily accessible stores for [ ] apps " ... " In some cases , those companies are releasing a greater variety of phones , on more wireless carriers around the world , than Apple .
" That was all true even before the iPhone ; Apple was among the last companies to introduce an iPhone-like device !
Just as the iPod was one of the later mp3 players on the market , yet became the standard by which others were measured .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember, Apple managed to vault from late-comer to leadership in the first place.
The blurb is just hand-wringing about things being as they have always been!
Competitors are at "all at varying stages of developing and introducing their own iPhone-like devices and software, along with easily accessible stores for [] apps"...  "In some cases, those companies are releasing a greater variety of phones, on more wireless carriers around the world, than Apple.
"  That was all true even before the iPhone; Apple was among the last companies to introduce an iPhone-like device!
Just as the iPod was one of the later mp3 players on the market, yet became the standard by which others were measured.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226775</id>
	<title>Amazing insight from Mr Genius</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244235060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>"If they start making products people don't want, and start losing users, then Apple's strategy will run into problems," said Benjamin Reitzes, an analyst at Barclays Capital. </htmltext>
<tokenext>" If they start making products people do n't want , and start losing users , then Apple 's strategy will run into problems , " said Benjamin Reitzes , an analyst at Barclays Capital .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If they start making products people don't want, and start losing users, then Apple's strategy will run into problems," said Benjamin Reitzes, an analyst at Barclays Capital. </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227079</id>
	<title>First time poster, long time reader</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244193240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Apple does not release a new version of the iPhone at this conference, or soon there after I think it will be a mistake.<br>I think they're going to have to stay on the one new version per year schedule to remain "on top" in the phone market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Apple does not release a new version of the iPhone at this conference , or soon there after I think it will be a mistake.I think they 're going to have to stay on the one new version per year schedule to remain " on top " in the phone market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Apple does not release a new version of the iPhone at this conference, or soon there after I think it will be a mistake.I think they're going to have to stay on the one new version per year schedule to remain "on top" in the phone market.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28229789</id>
	<title>Not entirely</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1244217780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>there's also "not overcomplicating".</p><p>One of the ways they do this is by insisting they be in control of the user experience.  That's not generally the case for smartphones, which are designed to the whims of the carriers.  The imperative for the carriers is to steer the user to buying more network services.  Apple has its own imperatives too, like steering users towards the iTunes store.   However the iTunes store is pretty close to as good as such things get, whereas I have no interest at all in things like the carrier's picture mail services, and if I have TCP/IP I certainly am not going to waste my money on the carrier's text messaging.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>there 's also " not overcomplicating " .One of the ways they do this is by insisting they be in control of the user experience .
That 's not generally the case for smartphones , which are designed to the whims of the carriers .
The imperative for the carriers is to steer the user to buying more network services .
Apple has its own imperatives too , like steering users towards the iTunes store .
However the iTunes store is pretty close to as good as such things get , whereas I have no interest at all in things like the carrier 's picture mail services , and if I have TCP/IP I certainly am not going to waste my money on the carrier 's text messaging .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there's also "not overcomplicating".One of the ways they do this is by insisting they be in control of the user experience.
That's not generally the case for smartphones, which are designed to the whims of the carriers.
The imperative for the carriers is to steer the user to buying more network services.
Apple has its own imperatives too, like steering users towards the iTunes store.
However the iTunes store is pretty close to as good as such things get, whereas I have no interest at all in things like the carrier's picture mail services, and if I have TCP/IP I certainly am not going to waste my money on the carrier's text messaging.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227133</id>
	<title>A crippled phone imho</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244193600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Multitasking, a memory card reader and installing non apple approved apps.</p><p>Features that apple COULD implement tomorrow, but won't.</p><p>That's why I'm rockin' android and will never buy an iphone in its current crippled state.</p><p>A real shame, as the device definetly has potential. It's not about hating apple, it's about hating that locked down feeling. That is probably not an issue for most people out there, but for me they are dealbreakers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Multitasking , a memory card reader and installing non apple approved apps.Features that apple COULD implement tomorrow , but wo n't.That 's why I 'm rockin ' android and will never buy an iphone in its current crippled state.A real shame , as the device definetly has potential .
It 's not about hating apple , it 's about hating that locked down feeling .
That is probably not an issue for most people out there , but for me they are dealbreakers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Multitasking, a memory card reader and installing non apple approved apps.Features that apple COULD implement tomorrow, but won't.That's why I'm rockin' android and will never buy an iphone in its current crippled state.A real shame, as the device definetly has potential.
It's not about hating apple, it's about hating that locked down feeling.
That is probably not an issue for most people out there, but for me they are dealbreakers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227109</id>
	<title>Re:30" OLED displays</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244193420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>iOLED, yours for a low price of $6999</htmltext>
<tokenext>iOLED , yours for a low price of $ 6999</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iOLED, yours for a low price of $6999</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227417</id>
	<title>Re:30" OLED displays</title>
	<author>Judge\_Fire</author>
	<datestamp>1244195340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple would seriously like to make new displays higher density, like over 150 PPI, as to coincide with finally shipping resolution indepence in OS X. Just imagine the amount of gloating<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) and in all fairness, it would be deserved - it would look damn good.</p><p>But RI has proved to be quite a challenge, and any progress made would be interesting to see at WWDC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple would seriously like to make new displays higher density , like over 150 PPI , as to coincide with finally shipping resolution indepence in OS X. Just imagine the amount of gloating ; ) and in all fairness , it would be deserved - it would look damn good.But RI has proved to be quite a challenge , and any progress made would be interesting to see at WWDC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple would seriously like to make new displays higher density, like over 150 PPI, as to coincide with finally shipping resolution indepence in OS X. Just imagine the amount of gloating ;) and in all fairness, it would be deserved - it would look damn good.But RI has proved to be quite a challenge, and any progress made would be interesting to see at WWDC.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227221</id>
	<title>I can see a Disney movie from this...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244194140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Emperor's New Poop!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Emperor 's New Poop !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Emperor's New Poop!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227185</id>
	<title>Re:30" OLED displays</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244193900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Last I heard they hadn't solved the lifetime problem for OLEDs. I don't think you'll see them in big, expensive products until they do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Last I heard they had n't solved the lifetime problem for OLEDs .
I do n't think you 'll see them in big , expensive products until they do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last I heard they hadn't solved the lifetime problem for OLEDs.
I don't think you'll see them in big, expensive products until they do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28230389</id>
	<title>Re:Heh...</title>
	<author>His Shadow</author>
	<datestamp>1244226780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Two thousand and seven called: they want their aging hipster snotty dismissal whine back.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Two thousand and seven called : they want their aging hipster snotty dismissal whine back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two thousand and seven called: they want their aging hipster snotty dismissal whine back.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28228701</id>
	<title>'cool' factor of its devices." Duhhhh ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244204100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now who's taking the piss cool factor it all that much crap it's stone dead frozen solid dead Apple need a lesson in there place in the scheme of things and that just happens to be underfoot</p><p>Not that i dont like them you understand , I just cant stand them or their gear it all sucks megga big time</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now who 's taking the piss cool factor it all that much crap it 's stone dead frozen solid dead Apple need a lesson in there place in the scheme of things and that just happens to be underfootNot that i dont like them you understand , I just cant stand them or their gear it all sucks megga big time</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now who's taking the piss cool factor it all that much crap it's stone dead frozen solid dead Apple need a lesson in there place in the scheme of things and that just happens to be underfootNot that i dont like them you understand , I just cant stand them or their gear it all sucks megga big time</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28236965</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing insight from Mr Genius</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244287320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"We analysts worry about companies that base their future on working rather than exploiting a monopoly... they can't be lazy, like us" said Benjamin Reitzes, an analyst at Barclays Capital.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... fixed it</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" We analysts worry about companies that base their future on working rather than exploiting a monopoly... they ca n't be lazy , like us " said Benjamin Reitzes , an analyst at Barclays Capital .
... fixed it</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We analysts worry about companies that base their future on working rather than exploiting a monopoly... they can't be lazy, like us" said Benjamin Reitzes, an analyst at Barclays Capital.
... fixed it</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226983</id>
	<title>Apple's is losing its margins</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244192820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Apple is <a href="http://finapps.forbes.com/finapps/jsp/finance/compinfo/Ratios.jsp?tkr=AAPL" title="forbes.com" rel="nofollow">about profit margin.</a> [forbes.com] Apple has enjoyed much higher profit margins than its competitors. That's starting to slip as iPhone and iPod prices come down, and the cheaper competitors get better.
</p><p>
Apple's reaction so far has been to raise iTunes prices.  Something better than that will have to be done next.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple is about profit margin .
[ forbes.com ] Apple has enjoyed much higher profit margins than its competitors .
That 's starting to slip as iPhone and iPod prices come down , and the cheaper competitors get better .
Apple 's reaction so far has been to raise iTunes prices .
Something better than that will have to be done next .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Apple is about profit margin.
[forbes.com] Apple has enjoyed much higher profit margins than its competitors.
That's starting to slip as iPhone and iPod prices come down, and the cheaper competitors get better.
Apple's reaction so far has been to raise iTunes prices.
Something better than that will have to be done next.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227887</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1244198460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes Blackberry has millions of devices in the hands of users. They now have an app store. I will go with that ecosystem thing.<br>Palm and RIM have a lot of experience with Smartphones so yes I would say they are catching up. Android has a lot of developer love but right now in the US is limited to T-Mobile.</p><p>Also Verizon and Sprint are both CDMA networks so no issues. I think Apple will finally have a fight on it's hands with the Palm Pre. It doesn't just have web apps it uses javascript but that isn't just for web apps. Since the phone isn't out yet I don't think it is far to say the app store is crashy or that they have a lack of actual customers.</p><p>Apple has done a great job with the iPhone. It is a really good piece of kit. From the predictions I have seen the new iPhone is going to be a minor update. The big news will be if they release a 4GB one for $99 and an 8GB for 149 to go with the new 16 and 32 GB models.</p><p>For me the lack of voice dialing on the iPhone is a terrible omission. Heck that is a feature of my $49 cell phone. No stereo bluetooth? No video,? Think about everything that the iPhone lacks. Yes it is far from perfect device. The have done a lot to push smartphones and now we are seeing the fruits. More and better smartphones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes Blackberry has millions of devices in the hands of users .
They now have an app store .
I will go with that ecosystem thing.Palm and RIM have a lot of experience with Smartphones so yes I would say they are catching up .
Android has a lot of developer love but right now in the US is limited to T-Mobile.Also Verizon and Sprint are both CDMA networks so no issues .
I think Apple will finally have a fight on it 's hands with the Palm Pre .
It does n't just have web apps it uses javascript but that is n't just for web apps .
Since the phone is n't out yet I do n't think it is far to say the app store is crashy or that they have a lack of actual customers.Apple has done a great job with the iPhone .
It is a really good piece of kit .
From the predictions I have seen the new iPhone is going to be a minor update .
The big news will be if they release a 4GB one for $ 99 and an 8GB for 149 to go with the new 16 and 32 GB models.For me the lack of voice dialing on the iPhone is a terrible omission .
Heck that is a feature of my $ 49 cell phone .
No stereo bluetooth ?
No video , ?
Think about everything that the iPhone lacks .
Yes it is far from perfect device .
The have done a lot to push smartphones and now we are seeing the fruits .
More and better smartphones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes Blackberry has millions of devices in the hands of users.
They now have an app store.
I will go with that ecosystem thing.Palm and RIM have a lot of experience with Smartphones so yes I would say they are catching up.
Android has a lot of developer love but right now in the US is limited to T-Mobile.Also Verizon and Sprint are both CDMA networks so no issues.
I think Apple will finally have a fight on it's hands with the Palm Pre.
It doesn't just have web apps it uses javascript but that isn't just for web apps.
Since the phone isn't out yet I don't think it is far to say the app store is crashy or that they have a lack of actual customers.Apple has done a great job with the iPhone.
It is a really good piece of kit.
From the predictions I have seen the new iPhone is going to be a minor update.
The big news will be if they release a 4GB one for $99 and an 8GB for 149 to go with the new 16 and 32 GB models.For me the lack of voice dialing on the iPhone is a terrible omission.
Heck that is a feature of my $49 cell phone.
No stereo bluetooth?
No video,?
Think about everything that the iPhone lacks.
Yes it is far from perfect device.
The have done a lot to push smartphones and now we are seeing the fruits.
More and better smartphones.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227411</id>
	<title>Cool Apples need to prevail.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244195220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>1)  It's good to hear that Steve Jobs is doing well.  Being ill sucks butt and I wish for everyone to live happy and healthy lives.
<br> <br>
2)  Apple's cool factor needs to be maintained if they wish to continue to have a business.  Apple has pushed themselves into the corner that they are now in.  Consumers, of the non-slashdot variety, will drop crap like it's hot once it stops doing it's primary function which, with Apple, is being cool.  The app store is great and all, but they need killer apps on the iPhone that will make users want to buy it again, since they'll loose their first purchase once they switch to a new iPhone 3.14152G.
<br> <br>
3)  I would be willing to bet that Apple too has its head in the clouds.  With the iWork.com site and the increase in how much they push how readily connected you are with the iPhone, I'd bet my two cents that they crossover at some point offering cloud services delivered via the iPhone's 4.9G's cool new aqua-cloudUI that makes it so slick to use cloud services.
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4)  It's a shame that the app store sells binary programs.  With everyone coming to the table with their own "app" store you're going to get a ton of fragmentation.
<br> <br> <i>
wait a second...</i>  Wasn't this how computing was back in the 60's?  Basically, some piece of software wouldn't run on a different vendor's hardware so you <b>had</b> to buy the vendor's hardware?  Is it just me or are we just setting ourselves up for another Microsoft inquisition and vague promises of software for every machine not just one machine?</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) It 's good to hear that Steve Jobs is doing well .
Being ill sucks butt and I wish for everyone to live happy and healthy lives .
2 ) Apple 's cool factor needs to be maintained if they wish to continue to have a business .
Apple has pushed themselves into the corner that they are now in .
Consumers , of the non-slashdot variety , will drop crap like it 's hot once it stops doing it 's primary function which , with Apple , is being cool .
The app store is great and all , but they need killer apps on the iPhone that will make users want to buy it again , since they 'll loose their first purchase once they switch to a new iPhone 3.14152G .
3 ) I would be willing to bet that Apple too has its head in the clouds .
With the iWork.com site and the increase in how much they push how readily connected you are with the iPhone , I 'd bet my two cents that they crossover at some point offering cloud services delivered via the iPhone 's 4.9G 's cool new aqua-cloudUI that makes it so slick to use cloud services .
4 ) It 's a shame that the app store sells binary programs .
With everyone coming to the table with their own " app " store you 're going to get a ton of fragmentation .
wait a second... Was n't this how computing was back in the 60 's ?
Basically , some piece of software would n't run on a different vendor 's hardware so you had to buy the vendor 's hardware ?
Is it just me or are we just setting ourselves up for another Microsoft inquisition and vague promises of software for every machine not just one machine ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1)  It's good to hear that Steve Jobs is doing well.
Being ill sucks butt and I wish for everyone to live happy and healthy lives.
2)  Apple's cool factor needs to be maintained if they wish to continue to have a business.
Apple has pushed themselves into the corner that they are now in.
Consumers, of the non-slashdot variety, will drop crap like it's hot once it stops doing it's primary function which, with Apple, is being cool.
The app store is great and all, but they need killer apps on the iPhone that will make users want to buy it again, since they'll loose their first purchase once they switch to a new iPhone 3.14152G.
3)  I would be willing to bet that Apple too has its head in the clouds.
With the iWork.com site and the increase in how much they push how readily connected you are with the iPhone, I'd bet my two cents that they crossover at some point offering cloud services delivered via the iPhone's 4.9G's cool new aqua-cloudUI that makes it so slick to use cloud services.
4)  It's a shame that the app store sells binary programs.
With everyone coming to the table with their own "app" store you're going to get a ton of fragmentation.
wait a second...  Wasn't this how computing was back in the 60's?
Basically, some piece of software wouldn't run on a different vendor's hardware so you had to buy the vendor's hardware?
Is it just me or are we just setting ourselves up for another Microsoft inquisition and vague promises of software for every machine not just one machine?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226871</id>
	<title>Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>Tibor the Hun</author>
	<datestamp>1244235480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So the competition has millions of devices in user's hands, a unified and attractive app store, and an established ecosystem?<br>(And that's even ignoring the music juggernaut on the other side of the coin.)</p><p>Which competition is even close to this kind of market?<br>Not trolling, not flaming, just asking.</p><p>Seems like everyone nowadays is granted a writing/analyst position if they can predict the fall of apple, or gloat about the upcoming features coming from microsoft.<br>(I'm also not saying that competition is bad, just that Apple right now doesn't face any coherent competition. Take Palm Pre as an example... Different hardware models (for sprint and verizon networks), crashy app store, lack of apps, web-based apps, lack of actual customers, and worst of all, predicted shortages at introduction. WhoTF decided it would be a good idea to have that kind of a release against the upcoming iPhone v3?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So the competition has millions of devices in user 's hands , a unified and attractive app store , and an established ecosystem ?
( And that 's even ignoring the music juggernaut on the other side of the coin .
) Which competition is even close to this kind of market ? Not trolling , not flaming , just asking.Seems like everyone nowadays is granted a writing/analyst position if they can predict the fall of apple , or gloat about the upcoming features coming from microsoft .
( I 'm also not saying that competition is bad , just that Apple right now does n't face any coherent competition .
Take Palm Pre as an example... Different hardware models ( for sprint and verizon networks ) , crashy app store , lack of apps , web-based apps , lack of actual customers , and worst of all , predicted shortages at introduction .
WhoTF decided it would be a good idea to have that kind of a release against the upcoming iPhone v3 ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the competition has millions of devices in user's hands, a unified and attractive app store, and an established ecosystem?
(And that's even ignoring the music juggernaut on the other side of the coin.
)Which competition is even close to this kind of market?Not trolling, not flaming, just asking.Seems like everyone nowadays is granted a writing/analyst position if they can predict the fall of apple, or gloat about the upcoming features coming from microsoft.
(I'm also not saying that competition is bad, just that Apple right now doesn't face any coherent competition.
Take Palm Pre as an example... Different hardware models (for sprint and verizon networks), crashy app store, lack of apps, web-based apps, lack of actual customers, and worst of all, predicted shortages at introduction.
WhoTF decided it would be a good idea to have that kind of a release against the upcoming iPhone v3?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28231479</id>
	<title>Re:Heh...</title>
	<author>kovari</author>
	<datestamp>1244287560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So Apple, as a newcomer to the industry, is now making others in the same space play catch up to them. Real competition is a good thing. Definitely Palm, MS, Nokia and RIM had more than enough time and expertise to make a iPhone like device before Apple did, yet they didn't. So now they get to play catch up. I hope they do create real iPhone killers, because it then puts Apple on the spot to improve.</p></div><p>Actually, they are only utilising the expansion of a niche (touchscreen smartphones) which (the expansion) Apple caused. Apple did not create the market, but was first to create a product to be good enough. At the same time other players are working on other niches, some more, some less profitable.</p><p>It's a bit like when Beatles had it's first success (no I'm not that old), other record companies started to sign similar bands. While keeping the still profitable parts of their other catalogue also.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So Apple , as a newcomer to the industry , is now making others in the same space play catch up to them .
Real competition is a good thing .
Definitely Palm , MS , Nokia and RIM had more than enough time and expertise to make a iPhone like device before Apple did , yet they did n't .
So now they get to play catch up .
I hope they do create real iPhone killers , because it then puts Apple on the spot to improve.Actually , they are only utilising the expansion of a niche ( touchscreen smartphones ) which ( the expansion ) Apple caused .
Apple did not create the market , but was first to create a product to be good enough .
At the same time other players are working on other niches , some more , some less profitable.It 's a bit like when Beatles had it 's first success ( no I 'm not that old ) , other record companies started to sign similar bands .
While keeping the still profitable parts of their other catalogue also .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Apple, as a newcomer to the industry, is now making others in the same space play catch up to them.
Real competition is a good thing.
Definitely Palm, MS, Nokia and RIM had more than enough time and expertise to make a iPhone like device before Apple did, yet they didn't.
So now they get to play catch up.
I hope they do create real iPhone killers, because it then puts Apple on the spot to improve.Actually, they are only utilising the expansion of a niche (touchscreen smartphones) which (the expansion) Apple caused.
Apple did not create the market, but was first to create a product to be good enough.
At the same time other players are working on other niches, some more, some less profitable.It's a bit like when Beatles had it's first success (no I'm not that old), other record companies started to sign similar bands.
While keeping the still profitable parts of their other catalogue also.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226889</id>
	<title>Jobs Health</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244235540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you have enough money in America (Steve Jobs-like money), you get the best healthcare and you get to live.</p><p>If you don't have money, America lets you die.</p><p>What a great country.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have enough money in America ( Steve Jobs-like money ) , you get the best healthcare and you get to live.If you do n't have money , America lets you die.What a great country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have enough money in America (Steve Jobs-like money), you get the best healthcare and you get to live.If you don't have money, America lets you die.What a great country.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227683</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>0xdeadbeef</author>
	<datestamp>1244197200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Not trolling, not flaming, just asking.</i></p><p>If that is the case, why is your next paragraph a bunch of retarded wharrgarbl?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not trolling , not flaming , just asking.If that is the case , why is your next paragraph a bunch of retarded wharrgarbl ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not trolling, not flaming, just asking.If that is the case, why is your next paragraph a bunch of retarded wharrgarbl?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226871</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28234323</id>
	<title>Re:30" OLED displays</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244312280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just view it as planned obsolescence.  Apple really doesn't have a problem with that, nor do the people who buy their products.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just view it as planned obsolescence .
Apple really does n't have a problem with that , nor do the people who buy their products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just view it as planned obsolescence.
Apple really doesn't have a problem with that, nor do the people who buy their products.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227185</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227243</id>
	<title>What price drops???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244194200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>That's starting to slip as iPhone and iPod prices come down</i></p><p>Ummmmm excuse me?  Which iPhone or iPod price drops are you talking about?  Since the iPhone was out last year it's been $199 for 8 GB and $299 for 16 GB.  I can go to the store right now and see the exact same price.</p><p><i>Apple's reaction so far has been to raise iTunes prices</i></p><p>iTunes prices did not increase.  They adopted a variable price method so popular songs could be more expensive during their popular period while less downloaded songs could be cheaper.</p><p>If you'd like to be an apple hater, please go right ahead, but please do so with correct information rather than stuff you pull out of thin air.  There's plenty of other things about Apple you can complain about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's starting to slip as iPhone and iPod prices come downUmmmmm excuse me ?
Which iPhone or iPod price drops are you talking about ?
Since the iPhone was out last year it 's been $ 199 for 8 GB and $ 299 for 16 GB .
I can go to the store right now and see the exact same price.Apple 's reaction so far has been to raise iTunes pricesiTunes prices did not increase .
They adopted a variable price method so popular songs could be more expensive during their popular period while less downloaded songs could be cheaper.If you 'd like to be an apple hater , please go right ahead , but please do so with correct information rather than stuff you pull out of thin air .
There 's plenty of other things about Apple you can complain about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's starting to slip as iPhone and iPod prices come downUmmmmm excuse me?
Which iPhone or iPod price drops are you talking about?
Since the iPhone was out last year it's been $199 for 8 GB and $299 for 16 GB.
I can go to the store right now and see the exact same price.Apple's reaction so far has been to raise iTunes pricesiTunes prices did not increase.
They adopted a variable price method so popular songs could be more expensive during their popular period while less downloaded songs could be cheaper.If you'd like to be an apple hater, please go right ahead, but please do so with correct information rather than stuff you pull out of thin air.
There's plenty of other things about Apple you can complain about.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226983</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226865</id>
	<title>"Catching up" is the key phrase</title>
	<author>DavidR1991</author>
	<datestamp>1244235420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"the competition is now catching up"</p><p>Assuming they've kept their edge, that statement is the key: They lead, they don't follow. That's why the competition are catching up to them, and not the reverse. Provided they keep doing that, there is little room for error to occur</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" the competition is now catching up " Assuming they 've kept their edge , that statement is the key : They lead , they do n't follow .
That 's why the competition are catching up to them , and not the reverse .
Provided they keep doing that , there is little room for error to occur</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the competition is now catching up"Assuming they've kept their edge, that statement is the key: They lead, they don't follow.
That's why the competition are catching up to them, and not the reverse.
Provided they keep doing that, there is little room for error to occur</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227383</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>pitchpipe</author>
	<datestamp>1244195040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>WhoTF decided it would be a good idea to have that kind of a release against the upcoming iPhone v3?)</p></div><p>Hence the name "Pre"mature.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>WhoTF decided it would be a good idea to have that kind of a release against the upcoming iPhone v3 ?
) Hence the name " Pre " mature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WhoTF decided it would be a good idea to have that kind of a release against the upcoming iPhone v3?
)Hence the name "Pre"mature.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226969</id>
	<title>30" OLED displays</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244192700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Despite being a "developers" conference, I'm calling it. 30" OLED displays. You heard it here first.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Despite being a " developers " conference , I 'm calling it .
30 " OLED displays .
You heard it here first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Despite being a "developers" conference, I'm calling it.
30" OLED displays.
You heard it here first.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226931</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing insight from Mr Genius</title>
	<author>siloko</author>
	<datestamp>1244192520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>along with easily accessible stores for the small programs known as applications, or apps, that run on those devices</p></div><p>Do these run on those hand held thingamygigs? Called 'Phones'?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>along with easily accessible stores for the small programs known as applications , or apps , that run on those devicesDo these run on those hand held thingamygigs ?
Called 'Phones ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>along with easily accessible stores for the small programs known as applications, or apps, that run on those devicesDo these run on those hand held thingamygigs?
Called 'Phones'?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28242627</id>
	<title>Re:News reporter reading level</title>
	<author>Jeruvy</author>
	<datestamp>1244400720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given that most people are not smarter than a 5th grader, perhaps they should bring it down to a grade 4 reading level.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that most people are not smarter than a 5th grader , perhaps they should bring it down to a grade 4 reading level .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that most people are not smarter than a 5th grader, perhaps they should bring it down to a grade 4 reading level.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28228201</id>
	<title>can I get my electrons back?</title>
	<author>zenster</author>
	<datestamp>1244200560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really?  Some company needs to maintain their edge at upcoming event.  Competitors are also releasing products and would like some of their market share.</p><p>Who is Amanda Callahan and why is she wasting our time?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
Some company needs to maintain their edge at upcoming event .
Competitors are also releasing products and would like some of their market share.Who is Amanda Callahan and why is she wasting our time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
Some company needs to maintain their edge at upcoming event.
Competitors are also releasing products and would like some of their market share.Who is Amanda Callahan and why is she wasting our time?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28228001</id>
	<title>Re:Heh...</title>
	<author>religious freak</author>
	<datestamp>1244199300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're welcome.  <br> <br>
Signed,<br>
Capitalism</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're welcome .
Signed , Capitalism</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're welcome.
Signed,
Capitalism</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227485</id>
	<title>Event sold out for months...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244195880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... so the only challenge will be crowd control. Hundreds of people playing musical chairs for every major keynote and standing in line for everything from food to toilets. Maybe another 10.000 iPhone Apps. Maybe finding a bigger vault for all the cash... They are on a roll and although nothing lasts forever, this is not likely to stop any time soon.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... so the only challenge will be crowd control .
Hundreds of people playing musical chairs for every major keynote and standing in line for everything from food to toilets .
Maybe another 10.000 iPhone Apps .
Maybe finding a bigger vault for all the cash... They are on a roll and although nothing lasts forever , this is not likely to stop any time soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... so the only challenge will be crowd control.
Hundreds of people playing musical chairs for every major keynote and standing in line for everything from food to toilets.
Maybe another 10.000 iPhone Apps.
Maybe finding a bigger vault for all the cash... They are on a roll and although nothing lasts forever, this is not likely to stop any time soon.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227349</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244194860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Without trolling, or flaming, here is my answer:</p><p>On February 3rd, 1637, everyone just woke up.  And the price of tulips went down the toilet, and everyone looked around and said "why did I pay more than a tulip's weight in gold for this?  It's just a <i>flower</i>".</p><p>Someday, everyone will just wake up.  They will put down the ipods, and pick up pennywhistles, guitars, and harmonicas again.  That's just how fads work.  Tulips and iPhones will still exist, but they won't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more, and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility.</p><p>Your perfectly valid reasoning may not do you any good at all if people suddenly go crazy for Zunes, or whatever.  I suspect that trying to analyze fads with reason and logic is an exercise in futility... no sane person thinks $100 a month is a reasonable price for phone service, but they buy iPhones anyway.  It's probably best just to roll with it and try not to lose your shirt when the bubble bursts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Without trolling , or flaming , here is my answer : On February 3rd , 1637 , everyone just woke up .
And the price of tulips went down the toilet , and everyone looked around and said " why did I pay more than a tulip 's weight in gold for this ?
It 's just a flower " .Someday , everyone will just wake up .
They will put down the ipods , and pick up pennywhistles , guitars , and harmonicas again .
That 's just how fads work .
Tulips and iPhones will still exist , but they wo n't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more , and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility.Your perfectly valid reasoning may not do you any good at all if people suddenly go crazy for Zunes , or whatever .
I suspect that trying to analyze fads with reason and logic is an exercise in futility... no sane person thinks $ 100 a month is a reasonable price for phone service , but they buy iPhones anyway .
It 's probably best just to roll with it and try not to lose your shirt when the bubble bursts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Without trolling, or flaming, here is my answer:On February 3rd, 1637, everyone just woke up.
And the price of tulips went down the toilet, and everyone looked around and said "why did I pay more than a tulip's weight in gold for this?
It's just a flower".Someday, everyone will just wake up.
They will put down the ipods, and pick up pennywhistles, guitars, and harmonicas again.
That's just how fads work.
Tulips and iPhones will still exist, but they won't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more, and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility.Your perfectly valid reasoning may not do you any good at all if people suddenly go crazy for Zunes, or whatever.
I suspect that trying to analyze fads with reason and logic is an exercise in futility... no sane person thinks $100 a month is a reasonable price for phone service, but they buy iPhones anyway.
It's probably best just to roll with it and try not to lose your shirt when the bubble bursts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226871</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227271</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244194380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Palm Pre.  Interesting, in that it won't be released for two days.  How can you complain about a "crashy app sttore" when the product isn't even in the field.</p><p>Verizon.   Hmmm.  Not going to happen for a while, the Pre is exclusive to Sprint for a while.</p><p>Different hardware models.  Duh!  Different networks, etc.  Palm is one of the most experienced when it comes to having different models all running the same OS.  and of course you will need different hardware for different networks.  If the networks use different technology, you will need different hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Palm Pre .
Interesting , in that it wo n't be released for two days .
How can you complain about a " crashy app sttore " when the product is n't even in the field.Verizon .
Hmmm. Not going to happen for a while , the Pre is exclusive to Sprint for a while.Different hardware models .
Duh ! Different networks , etc .
Palm is one of the most experienced when it comes to having different models all running the same OS .
and of course you will need different hardware for different networks .
If the networks use different technology , you will need different hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Palm Pre.
Interesting, in that it won't be released for two days.
How can you complain about a "crashy app sttore" when the product isn't even in the field.Verizon.
Hmmm.  Not going to happen for a while, the Pre is exclusive to Sprint for a while.Different hardware models.
Duh!  Different networks, etc.
Palm is one of the most experienced when it comes to having different models all running the same OS.
and of course you will need different hardware for different networks.
If the networks use different technology, you will need different hardware.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28228155</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>iluvcapra</author>
	<datestamp>1244200320000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Which competition is even close to this kind of market?</p></div><p>Microsoft maybe, though their problems with getting a good vertical product are endemic, excepting perhaps the Xbox, but is that yet profitable?</p><p>Amazon, but they seem to be happy leaving personal computing, email, contacts, mobile media on the table.  But Amazon seems to be much better equipped to roll out a vertical than MS, even if it hasn't demonstrated the complete wherewithal in the hardware department to pull off a media/comm device.  Love my Kindle though.</p><p>As Gruber pointed out the other day, the main NY Apple Store pulls as much revenue, in that one store annually as the entire Palm corporation earns in 4 months.  Palm might have a chance if the hardware is as good as everyone says, but I have terrible memories of support on my Treo.  Apple will always have the winning store chain of all of these to provide an on-the-ground support infrastructure.</p><p>Sony is weird; they definitely could do the hardware and support but they seem to have serious problems institutionally with putting together a vertical that combines the consumer electronics division, music and creatives, Vaio, and SonyEricsson into a single Great Product.</p><p>Anyone else come to mind?</p></div>
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<tokenext>Which competition is even close to this kind of market ? Microsoft maybe , though their problems with getting a good vertical product are endemic , excepting perhaps the Xbox , but is that yet profitable ? Amazon , but they seem to be happy leaving personal computing , email , contacts , mobile media on the table .
But Amazon seems to be much better equipped to roll out a vertical than MS , even if it has n't demonstrated the complete wherewithal in the hardware department to pull off a media/comm device .
Love my Kindle though.As Gruber pointed out the other day , the main NY Apple Store pulls as much revenue , in that one store annually as the entire Palm corporation earns in 4 months .
Palm might have a chance if the hardware is as good as everyone says , but I have terrible memories of support on my Treo .
Apple will always have the winning store chain of all of these to provide an on-the-ground support infrastructure.Sony is weird ; they definitely could do the hardware and support but they seem to have serious problems institutionally with putting together a vertical that combines the consumer electronics division , music and creatives , Vaio , and SonyEricsson into a single Great Product.Anyone else come to mind ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which competition is even close to this kind of market?Microsoft maybe, though their problems with getting a good vertical product are endemic, excepting perhaps the Xbox, but is that yet profitable?Amazon, but they seem to be happy leaving personal computing, email, contacts, mobile media on the table.
But Amazon seems to be much better equipped to roll out a vertical than MS, even if it hasn't demonstrated the complete wherewithal in the hardware department to pull off a media/comm device.
Love my Kindle though.As Gruber pointed out the other day, the main NY Apple Store pulls as much revenue, in that one store annually as the entire Palm corporation earns in 4 months.
Palm might have a chance if the hardware is as good as everyone says, but I have terrible memories of support on my Treo.
Apple will always have the winning store chain of all of these to provide an on-the-ground support infrastructure.Sony is weird; they definitely could do the hardware and support but they seem to have serious problems institutionally with putting together a vertical that combines the consumer electronics division, music and creatives, Vaio, and SonyEricsson into a single Great Product.Anyone else come to mind?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28234655</id>
	<title>Re:A crippled phone imho</title>
	<author>dwpro</author>
	<datestamp>1244314860000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like it how you make the parent sound like they actively endorse malware and system instability by wanting to install his own apps.  You don't necessarily "sacrifice" anything.</p><p>Moreover, just because you don't care about the convenience of memory cards doesn't mean everyone doesn't, and many people do not use Picassa or Iphoto.  You may be in more of a niche than you think.<br>
&nbsp; <br>disclaimier, I am in the parent's niche as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like it how you make the parent sound like they actively endorse malware and system instability by wanting to install his own apps .
You do n't necessarily " sacrifice " anything.Moreover , just because you do n't care about the convenience of memory cards does n't mean everyone does n't , and many people do not use Picassa or Iphoto .
You may be in more of a niche than you think .
  disclaimier , I am in the parent 's niche as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like it how you make the parent sound like they actively endorse malware and system instability by wanting to install his own apps.
You don't necessarily "sacrifice" anything.Moreover, just because you don't care about the convenience of memory cards doesn't mean everyone doesn't, and many people do not use Picassa or Iphoto.
You may be in more of a niche than you think.
  disclaimier, I am in the parent's niche as well.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28236889</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing insight from Mr Genius</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244286420000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>"If Steve Jobs starts starts sacrificing little ponies in Cupertino little girls will start crying" said Benjamin Reitzes, an analyst at Barclays Capital.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... fixed it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" If Steve Jobs starts starts sacrificing little ponies in Cupertino little girls will start crying " said Benjamin Reitzes , an analyst at Barclays Capital .
... fixed it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If Steve Jobs starts starts sacrificing little ponies in Cupertino little girls will start crying" said Benjamin Reitzes, an analyst at Barclays Capital.
... fixed it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227619</id>
	<title>Re:Heh...</title>
	<author>shmlco</author>
	<datestamp>1244196780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"How about we start getting phones with a good vibrate feature so that I can feel it while it's on my belt?"</p><p>Now be honest here. Is that REALLY why you want a better vibrator????</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" How about we start getting phones with a good vibrate feature so that I can feel it while it 's on my belt ?
" Now be honest here .
Is that REALLY why you want a better vibrator ? ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"How about we start getting phones with a good vibrate feature so that I can feel it while it's on my belt?
"Now be honest here.
Is that REALLY why you want a better vibrator???
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227455</id>
	<title>Re:"Catching up" is the key phrase</title>
	<author>ground.zero.612</author>
	<datestamp>1244195640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
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	<htmltext>I would disagree and say that they stood on the shoulders of others and probably paid hundreds of millions in advertising.<br> <br>

There were other cell phones before the iphone. There were other mp3 players before the ipod. And there were certainly other PDAs with touch screen interface before either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would disagree and say that they stood on the shoulders of others and probably paid hundreds of millions in advertising .
There were other cell phones before the iphone .
There were other mp3 players before the ipod .
And there were certainly other PDAs with touch screen interface before either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would disagree and say that they stood on the shoulders of others and probably paid hundreds of millions in advertising.
There were other cell phones before the iphone.
There were other mp3 players before the ipod.
And there were certainly other PDAs with touch screen interface before either.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227007</id>
	<title>Heh...</title>
	<author>vjmurphy</author>
	<datestamp>1244192940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Palm, Google, Microsoft, Nokia and Research in Motion, maker of the BlackBerry, are all at varying stages of developing and introducing their own iPhone-like devices."</p><p>So Apple, as a newcomer to the industry, is now making others in the same space play catch up to them. Real competition is a good thing. Definitely Palm, MS, Nokia and RIM had more than enough time and expertise to make a iPhone like device before Apple did, yet they didn't. So now they get to play catch up. I hope they do create real iPhone killers, because it then puts Apple on the spot to improve.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Palm , Google , Microsoft , Nokia and Research in Motion , maker of the BlackBerry , are all at varying stages of developing and introducing their own iPhone-like devices .
" So Apple , as a newcomer to the industry , is now making others in the same space play catch up to them .
Real competition is a good thing .
Definitely Palm , MS , Nokia and RIM had more than enough time and expertise to make a iPhone like device before Apple did , yet they did n't .
So now they get to play catch up .
I hope they do create real iPhone killers , because it then puts Apple on the spot to improve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Palm, Google, Microsoft, Nokia and Research in Motion, maker of the BlackBerry, are all at varying stages of developing and introducing their own iPhone-like devices.
"So Apple, as a newcomer to the industry, is now making others in the same space play catch up to them.
Real competition is a good thing.
Definitely Palm, MS, Nokia and RIM had more than enough time and expertise to make a iPhone like device before Apple did, yet they didn't.
So now they get to play catch up.
I hope they do create real iPhone killers, because it then puts Apple on the spot to improve.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28229895</id>
	<title>Other Carriers is Inevitable</title>
	<author>Bruha</author>
	<datestamp>1244219340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More iPhones have been sold overseas than in the US.  Apple is currently denying themselves of a market of over 130 million customers with Verizon at 87 million customers.  In this economy it's just bad business to ignore the 400 pound gorilla in the room.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More iPhones have been sold overseas than in the US .
Apple is currently denying themselves of a market of over 130 million customers with Verizon at 87 million customers .
In this economy it 's just bad business to ignore the 400 pound gorilla in the room .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More iPhones have been sold overseas than in the US.
Apple is currently denying themselves of a market of over 130 million customers with Verizon at 87 million customers.
In this economy it's just bad business to ignore the 400 pound gorilla in the room.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28228177</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>not-my-real-name</author>
	<datestamp>1244200380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't think anyone's predicting the fall of Apple, but rather just stating the obvious.</p></div><p>People have been predicting the fall of Apple since at least the late '80s.  Apple: Proudly going out of business for over 25 years. (or is it 30 years by now)  Eventually the pundits will be right and then they can say, "I told you so"</p></div>
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<tokenext>I do n't think anyone 's predicting the fall of Apple , but rather just stating the obvious.People have been predicting the fall of Apple since at least the late '80s .
Apple : Proudly going out of business for over 25 years .
( or is it 30 years by now ) Eventually the pundits will be right and then they can say , " I told you so "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think anyone's predicting the fall of Apple, but rather just stating the obvious.People have been predicting the fall of Apple since at least the late '80s.
Apple: Proudly going out of business for over 25 years.
(or is it 30 years by now)  Eventually the pundits will be right and then they can say, "I told you so"
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28238583</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>ScrewMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1244303460000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Which competition is even close to this kind of market?</p></div><p>Well, the Google App Store is coming along pretty well, and Google has more infrastructure to support such efforts than Apple or just about anyone else. They also know how to run applications on a vast scale: an app store is pretty trivial in that context. As it happens, I picked a G1 over an iPhone. Frankly, I've been very happy with it, especially since the recent operating system update. Is it as slick as the iPhone<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... no, but then again, it does what I want extremely well, and integrates perfectly with the Google services I use. Lots of decent apps (nowhere near the variety of Apple's app store, but it's growing.) It's also a far more open development environment than the IPhone will ever be. That appeals to a lot of developers.
<br> <br>
The G1's Linux-based Android OS is also far closer to a real desktop than any other phone I've used, and given that it's now being used on low-end netbooks instead of Windows, I expect that trend to continue.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Which competition is even close to this kind of market ? Well , the Google App Store is coming along pretty well , and Google has more infrastructure to support such efforts than Apple or just about anyone else .
They also know how to run applications on a vast scale : an app store is pretty trivial in that context .
As it happens , I picked a G1 over an iPhone .
Frankly , I 've been very happy with it , especially since the recent operating system update .
Is it as slick as the iPhone ... no , but then again , it does what I want extremely well , and integrates perfectly with the Google services I use .
Lots of decent apps ( nowhere near the variety of Apple 's app store , but it 's growing .
) It 's also a far more open development environment than the IPhone will ever be .
That appeals to a lot of developers .
The G1 's Linux-based Android OS is also far closer to a real desktop than any other phone I 've used , and given that it 's now being used on low-end netbooks instead of Windows , I expect that trend to continue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which competition is even close to this kind of market?Well, the Google App Store is coming along pretty well, and Google has more infrastructure to support such efforts than Apple or just about anyone else.
They also know how to run applications on a vast scale: an app store is pretty trivial in that context.
As it happens, I picked a G1 over an iPhone.
Frankly, I've been very happy with it, especially since the recent operating system update.
Is it as slick as the iPhone ... no, but then again, it does what I want extremely well, and integrates perfectly with the Google services I use.
Lots of decent apps (nowhere near the variety of Apple's app store, but it's growing.
) It's also a far more open development environment than the IPhone will ever be.
That appeals to a lot of developers.
The G1's Linux-based Android OS is also far closer to a real desktop than any other phone I've used, and given that it's now being used on low-end netbooks instead of Windows, I expect that trend to continue.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28228577</id>
	<title>Re:"Catching up" is the key phrase</title>
	<author>samkass</author>
	<datestamp>1244203260000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To maintain its advantage, Apple must preserve the impression that it is far ahead of rivals</p></div><p>This statement was thrown in there seemingly at random.  Why can't Apple just be the best, most usable platform?  And why can't it rely on a billion downloaded applications that only run on its platform as some lock-in?  Not that I'm *not* advocating Apple continuing to innovate, but why do they have to be held to a higher standard than everyone else?</p></div>
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<tokenext>To maintain its advantage , Apple must preserve the impression that it is far ahead of rivalsThis statement was thrown in there seemingly at random .
Why ca n't Apple just be the best , most usable platform ?
And why ca n't it rely on a billion downloaded applications that only run on its platform as some lock-in ?
Not that I 'm * not * advocating Apple continuing to innovate , but why do they have to be held to a higher standard than everyone else ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To maintain its advantage, Apple must preserve the impression that it is far ahead of rivalsThis statement was thrown in there seemingly at random.
Why can't Apple just be the best, most usable platform?
And why can't it rely on a billion downloaded applications that only run on its platform as some lock-in?
Not that I'm *not* advocating Apple continuing to innovate, but why do they have to be held to a higher standard than everyone else?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227265</id>
	<title>That's a nice opinion, but...</title>
	<author>Alakaboo</author>
	<datestamp>1244194380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>...really, Apple has been doing just fine without Steve Jobs, and the iPhone is so popular that they can probably phone in (no pun intended) the 3.0 update and be set for another six months or more. Apple isn't in jeopardy of losing a significant number of customers to Palm until the bugs are worked out in webOS and their app store is fleshed out. RIM needs to hurry the Storm 2 along and from what I gather their app store needs some time as well.</p><p>That being said, I don't think Apple is going to phone it in. They've been quite prolific these past 10 years or so and I've seen no evidence of that changing any time soon. I expect to see a cheaper iPhone with beefier hardware and a reduced rate plan in the next few weeks (not necessarily at WWDC), and I expect to see Core i5 iMacs and Snow Leopard by Fall. Incremental improvements, to be sure, but enough to stay competitive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...really , Apple has been doing just fine without Steve Jobs , and the iPhone is so popular that they can probably phone in ( no pun intended ) the 3.0 update and be set for another six months or more .
Apple is n't in jeopardy of losing a significant number of customers to Palm until the bugs are worked out in webOS and their app store is fleshed out .
RIM needs to hurry the Storm 2 along and from what I gather their app store needs some time as well.That being said , I do n't think Apple is going to phone it in .
They 've been quite prolific these past 10 years or so and I 've seen no evidence of that changing any time soon .
I expect to see a cheaper iPhone with beefier hardware and a reduced rate plan in the next few weeks ( not necessarily at WWDC ) , and I expect to see Core i5 iMacs and Snow Leopard by Fall .
Incremental improvements , to be sure , but enough to stay competitive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...really, Apple has been doing just fine without Steve Jobs, and the iPhone is so popular that they can probably phone in (no pun intended) the 3.0 update and be set for another six months or more.
Apple isn't in jeopardy of losing a significant number of customers to Palm until the bugs are worked out in webOS and their app store is fleshed out.
RIM needs to hurry the Storm 2 along and from what I gather their app store needs some time as well.That being said, I don't think Apple is going to phone it in.
They've been quite prolific these past 10 years or so and I've seen no evidence of that changing any time soon.
I expect to see a cheaper iPhone with beefier hardware and a reduced rate plan in the next few weeks (not necessarily at WWDC), and I expect to see Core i5 iMacs and Snow Leopard by Fall.
Incremental improvements, to be sure, but enough to stay competitive.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227865</id>
	<title>Re:Amazing insight from Mr Genius</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244198340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is better than his previous analyst job of mortgage companies which always resulted in BUY BUY BUY</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is better than his previous analyst job of mortgage companies which always resulted in BUY BUY BUY</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is better than his previous analyst job of mortgage companies which always resulted in BUY BUY BUY</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227759</id>
	<title>Re:A crippled phone imho</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244197620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Multitasking, a memory card reader and installing non apple approved apps.</p></div><p>So you would be willing to sacrifice stability, security of your data? If you don't care about stability and the risk for malware, you can always jailbreak your phone and install that kind of crap yourself. A memory card reader? So I take it that you don't use picture software like Picassa or iPhoto to organize your photos? You are aware that the iPhone has 8-16 and potentially 32 GB of storage in the new models built in?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Features that apple COULD implement tomorrow, but won't.</p></div><p>They won't because they are interested in serving the majority of customer's needs rather than serving niche concerns at the expense of security and stability as well as battery life.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>That's why I'm rockin' android and will never buy an iphone in its current crippled state.</p><p>A real shame, as the device definetly has potential. It's not about hating apple, it's about hating that locked down feeling. That is probably not an issue for most people out there, but for me they are dealbreakers.</p></div><p>Good for you. Have fun with your device of your choice but you should realize that your expectations are part of a small niche and most people just want a device that works well on a consistent basis.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Multitasking , a memory card reader and installing non apple approved apps.So you would be willing to sacrifice stability , security of your data ?
If you do n't care about stability and the risk for malware , you can always jailbreak your phone and install that kind of crap yourself .
A memory card reader ?
So I take it that you do n't use picture software like Picassa or iPhoto to organize your photos ?
You are aware that the iPhone has 8-16 and potentially 32 GB of storage in the new models built in ? Features that apple COULD implement tomorrow , but wo n't.They wo n't because they are interested in serving the majority of customer 's needs rather than serving niche concerns at the expense of security and stability as well as battery life.That 's why I 'm rockin ' android and will never buy an iphone in its current crippled state.A real shame , as the device definetly has potential .
It 's not about hating apple , it 's about hating that locked down feeling .
That is probably not an issue for most people out there , but for me they are dealbreakers.Good for you .
Have fun with your device of your choice but you should realize that your expectations are part of a small niche and most people just want a device that works well on a consistent basis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Multitasking, a memory card reader and installing non apple approved apps.So you would be willing to sacrifice stability, security of your data?
If you don't care about stability and the risk for malware, you can always jailbreak your phone and install that kind of crap yourself.
A memory card reader?
So I take it that you don't use picture software like Picassa or iPhoto to organize your photos?
You are aware that the iPhone has 8-16 and potentially 32 GB of storage in the new models built in?Features that apple COULD implement tomorrow, but won't.They won't because they are interested in serving the majority of customer's needs rather than serving niche concerns at the expense of security and stability as well as battery life.That's why I'm rockin' android and will never buy an iphone in its current crippled state.A real shame, as the device definetly has potential.
It's not about hating apple, it's about hating that locked down feeling.
That is probably not an issue for most people out there, but for me they are dealbreakers.Good for you.
Have fun with your device of your choice but you should realize that your expectations are part of a small niche and most people just want a device that works well on a consistent basis.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227145</id>
	<title>Re:Heh...</title>
	<author>twidarkling</author>
	<datestamp>1244193660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By "iPhone-like devices," they usually mean "thing with no actual keyboard." I don't want one like that. I like physical keys. Because they actually work. You've always been able to get apps by searching around a bit for Windows Mobile based phones, and probably for others as well, so the App Store idea is just collecting and monetizing them. Frankly, an iPhone isn't that special, beyond the large touch-screen. Everything about it had been done before in one manner or another. Apple just gathered it in to one place and shellacked it. I will grant they did it well, and it's pushing other companies to include greater number of features, but does a phone really NEED an accelerometer? How about we start getting phones with a good vibrate feature so that I can feel it while it's on my belt?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By " iPhone-like devices , " they usually mean " thing with no actual keyboard .
" I do n't want one like that .
I like physical keys .
Because they actually work .
You 've always been able to get apps by searching around a bit for Windows Mobile based phones , and probably for others as well , so the App Store idea is just collecting and monetizing them .
Frankly , an iPhone is n't that special , beyond the large touch-screen .
Everything about it had been done before in one manner or another .
Apple just gathered it in to one place and shellacked it .
I will grant they did it well , and it 's pushing other companies to include greater number of features , but does a phone really NEED an accelerometer ?
How about we start getting phones with a good vibrate feature so that I can feel it while it 's on my belt ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By "iPhone-like devices," they usually mean "thing with no actual keyboard.
" I don't want one like that.
I like physical keys.
Because they actually work.
You've always been able to get apps by searching around a bit for Windows Mobile based phones, and probably for others as well, so the App Store idea is just collecting and monetizing them.
Frankly, an iPhone isn't that special, beyond the large touch-screen.
Everything about it had been done before in one manner or another.
Apple just gathered it in to one place and shellacked it.
I will grant they did it well, and it's pushing other companies to include greater number of features, but does a phone really NEED an accelerometer?
How about we start getting phones with a good vibrate feature so that I can feel it while it's on my belt?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227977</id>
	<title>Re:"Catching up" is the key phrase</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244199120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It also helps that pretty much every reporter in the industry (and in particular on sites like slashdot) uses and promotes their products.  TV and the web are absolutely SATURATED with the idea that Apple products are the epitome of perfection, typically ignoring their serious flaws and buying into the marketing hype that if you give Apple your money, you somehow become a better person.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It also helps that pretty much every reporter in the industry ( and in particular on sites like slashdot ) uses and promotes their products .
TV and the web are absolutely SATURATED with the idea that Apple products are the epitome of perfection , typically ignoring their serious flaws and buying into the marketing hype that if you give Apple your money , you somehow become a better person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It also helps that pretty much every reporter in the industry (and in particular on sites like slashdot) uses and promotes their products.
TV and the web are absolutely SATURATED with the idea that Apple products are the epitome of perfection, typically ignoring their serious flaws and buying into the marketing hype that if you give Apple your money, you somehow become a better person.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28229243</id>
	<title>Re:"Catching up" is the key phrase</title>
	<author>rilister</author>
	<datestamp>1244210340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Apple may have the edge in ease of use, but they never had an edge in anything else"</p><p>If you took apart two phones and compared how they were designed, you'd see Apple's mechanical design is more considerably more advanced, some could say unnecessarily complex. Their manufacturing sophistication is a pretty sizable leap ahead of any other company making consumer products, bar none.</p><p>You simply can't make an iPhone using plastic molded parts and paint. It just can't be done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Apple may have the edge in ease of use , but they never had an edge in anything else " If you took apart two phones and compared how they were designed , you 'd see Apple 's mechanical design is more considerably more advanced , some could say unnecessarily complex .
Their manufacturing sophistication is a pretty sizable leap ahead of any other company making consumer products , bar none.You simply ca n't make an iPhone using plastic molded parts and paint .
It just ca n't be done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Apple may have the edge in ease of use, but they never had an edge in anything else"If you took apart two phones and compared how they were designed, you'd see Apple's mechanical design is more considerably more advanced, some could say unnecessarily complex.
Their manufacturing sophistication is a pretty sizable leap ahead of any other company making consumer products, bar none.You simply can't make an iPhone using plastic molded parts and paint.
It just can't be done.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227493</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244195880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Tulips and iPhones will still exist, but they won't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more, and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Except that emotional baggage isn't what sells iPhones.  It's primarily function and utility.
</p><p>
I am, of course, referring to easy-to-use function and utility.  I can use my iPhone for pretty much any of its intended purposes quickly and without hassling with the interface.  That wasn't true of the last phone I had:  it did quite a few things, but it never seemed worth figuring out how.
</p><p>
The iPhone does a whole lot of things simply and intuitively.  That means it has more effective functionality, for a great many people, than phones that are theoretically more capable.  Moreover, the iPhone is a lot more fun to use.
</p><p>
This doesn't mean the iPhone is unstoppable.  It does mean that an iPhone killer is going to have to be easy and fun to use, and not just laden with functionality and a manual that's more text than the average American reads in a year.  It does mean that any iPhone killer is going to be mocked by Slashdot as being lame, of course.  Many Slashdotters are quick to label anything they don't immediately understand as irrational and unpredictable.
</p><p>
Nor do I think people are going to discard their iPods in favor of guitars.  People have wanted recorded music since it became available (with the player piano, say).  People are going to keep iPods or whatever gets popular instead, and quite a few people are still going to learn to play the guitar, because that fulfills a slightly different need.  (And my wife still won't let me practice the nose flute in the house.)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Tulips and iPhones will still exist , but they wo n't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more , and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility .
Except that emotional baggage is n't what sells iPhones .
It 's primarily function and utility .
I am , of course , referring to easy-to-use function and utility .
I can use my iPhone for pretty much any of its intended purposes quickly and without hassling with the interface .
That was n't true of the last phone I had : it did quite a few things , but it never seemed worth figuring out how .
The iPhone does a whole lot of things simply and intuitively .
That means it has more effective functionality , for a great many people , than phones that are theoretically more capable .
Moreover , the iPhone is a lot more fun to use .
This does n't mean the iPhone is unstoppable .
It does mean that an iPhone killer is going to have to be easy and fun to use , and not just laden with functionality and a manual that 's more text than the average American reads in a year .
It does mean that any iPhone killer is going to be mocked by Slashdot as being lame , of course .
Many Slashdotters are quick to label anything they do n't immediately understand as irrational and unpredictable .
Nor do I think people are going to discard their iPods in favor of guitars .
People have wanted recorded music since it became available ( with the player piano , say ) .
People are going to keep iPods or whatever gets popular instead , and quite a few people are still going to learn to play the guitar , because that fulfills a slightly different need .
( And my wife still wo n't let me practice the nose flute in the house .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tulips and iPhones will still exist, but they won't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more, and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility.
Except that emotional baggage isn't what sells iPhones.
It's primarily function and utility.
I am, of course, referring to easy-to-use function and utility.
I can use my iPhone for pretty much any of its intended purposes quickly and without hassling with the interface.
That wasn't true of the last phone I had:  it did quite a few things, but it never seemed worth figuring out how.
The iPhone does a whole lot of things simply and intuitively.
That means it has more effective functionality, for a great many people, than phones that are theoretically more capable.
Moreover, the iPhone is a lot more fun to use.
This doesn't mean the iPhone is unstoppable.
It does mean that an iPhone killer is going to have to be easy and fun to use, and not just laden with functionality and a manual that's more text than the average American reads in a year.
It does mean that any iPhone killer is going to be mocked by Slashdot as being lame, of course.
Many Slashdotters are quick to label anything they don't immediately understand as irrational and unpredictable.
Nor do I think people are going to discard their iPods in favor of guitars.
People have wanted recorded music since it became available (with the player piano, say).
People are going to keep iPods or whatever gets popular instead, and quite a few people are still going to learn to play the guitar, because that fulfills a slightly different need.
(And my wife still won't let me practice the nose flute in the house.
)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28232215</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>cayenne8</author>
	<datestamp>1244298180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"no sane person thinks $100 a month is a reasonable price for phone service, but they buy iPhones anyway."</i> <p>
Actually, I think it is reasonable. Hell, I've been paying close to that for years for the Sprint Vision service with a phone that is not even a smartphone....</p><p>
I figured if I'm paying this much, get an iPhone that actually does a LOT for the price.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" no sane person thinks $ 100 a month is a reasonable price for phone service , but they buy iPhones anyway .
" Actually , I think it is reasonable .
Hell , I 've been paying close to that for years for the Sprint Vision service with a phone that is not even a smartphone... . I figured if I 'm paying this much , get an iPhone that actually does a LOT for the price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"no sane person thinks $100 a month is a reasonable price for phone service, but they buy iPhones anyway.
" 
Actually, I think it is reasonable.
Hell, I've been paying close to that for years for the Sprint Vision service with a phone that is not even a smartphone....
I figured if I'm paying this much, get an iPhone that actually does a LOT for the price.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28230317</id>
	<title>Physical keys actually suck</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1244225580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) The virtual iPhone dialing keypad is far better than any cellphone hardware keypad even ones with only numbers), because the buttons are much larger.</p><p>2) The virtual iPhone keyboard is better that most mobile keyboards, because the keys are larger.  It doesn't matter if you have a physical keyboard if the keys are too small to use.  This is doubly true when the iPhone keyboard is in landcsape mode where I don't think anything else offers keys as large in a mobile device.</p><p>3) The virtual iPhone keyboards are all better because they adapt.  A URL keyboard drops the spacebar because you don't need one for URL's.  A number only keyboard has much larger number buttons, and so on.   Physical keyboards are glacially frozen into some arbitrary shape one guy decided was better at a moment in time.</p><p>You can stick with your "real" keyboards, by all means enjoy your new career <a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/07/02/" title="penny-arcade.com">boiling corpses</a> [penny-arcade.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) The virtual iPhone dialing keypad is far better than any cellphone hardware keypad even ones with only numbers ) , because the buttons are much larger.2 ) The virtual iPhone keyboard is better that most mobile keyboards , because the keys are larger .
It does n't matter if you have a physical keyboard if the keys are too small to use .
This is doubly true when the iPhone keyboard is in landcsape mode where I do n't think anything else offers keys as large in a mobile device.3 ) The virtual iPhone keyboards are all better because they adapt .
A URL keyboard drops the spacebar because you do n't need one for URL 's .
A number only keyboard has much larger number buttons , and so on .
Physical keyboards are glacially frozen into some arbitrary shape one guy decided was better at a moment in time.You can stick with your " real " keyboards , by all means enjoy your new career boiling corpses [ penny-arcade.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) The virtual iPhone dialing keypad is far better than any cellphone hardware keypad even ones with only numbers), because the buttons are much larger.2) The virtual iPhone keyboard is better that most mobile keyboards, because the keys are larger.
It doesn't matter if you have a physical keyboard if the keys are too small to use.
This is doubly true when the iPhone keyboard is in landcsape mode where I don't think anything else offers keys as large in a mobile device.3) The virtual iPhone keyboards are all better because they adapt.
A URL keyboard drops the spacebar because you don't need one for URL's.
A number only keyboard has much larger number buttons, and so on.
Physical keyboards are glacially frozen into some arbitrary shape one guy decided was better at a moment in time.You can stick with your "real" keyboards, by all means enjoy your new career boiling corpses [penny-arcade.com].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28226943</id>
	<title>Maintain the impression they're ahead?</title>
	<author>Reality Master 201</author>
	<datestamp>1244192580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If their competition is rushing to follow what Apple's doing by making iPhone-like devices, then it's more than just an impression that they're ahead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If their competition is rushing to follow what Apple 's doing by making iPhone-like devices , then it 's more than just an impression that they 're ahead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If their competition is rushing to follow what Apple's doing by making iPhone-like devices, then it's more than just an impression that they're ahead.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28231039</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>FlightlessParrot</author>
	<datestamp>1244280480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> Tulips and iPhones will still exist, but they won't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more, and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility.</p></div> </blockquote><p>

Well, here in New Zealand all phones have to be sold as bare handsets, without contracts (and so without subsidies); also, parallel importing is explicitly permitted by law. In this market, the iPhone is actually cheaper than comparable smartphones, even the parallel imported ones. The Palm Pre looks very nice, and I'd really like multi-tasking and a better camera, and access to all those old Palm programs would be really nice, but I'm guessing it'll cost half as much again as the iThing.<br>
<br>
A retired medievalist says, you gotta lose that idea that there's an Apple Tax or that they're selling pure image.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tulips and iPhones will still exist , but they wo n't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more , and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility .
Well , here in New Zealand all phones have to be sold as bare handsets , without contracts ( and so without subsidies ) ; also , parallel importing is explicitly permitted by law .
In this market , the iPhone is actually cheaper than comparable smartphones , even the parallel imported ones .
The Palm Pre looks very nice , and I 'd really like multi-tasking and a better camera , and access to all those old Palm programs would be really nice , but I 'm guessing it 'll cost half as much again as the iThing .
A retired medievalist says , you got ta lose that idea that there 's an Apple Tax or that they 're selling pure image .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Tulips and iPhones will still exist, but they won't be fetish objects to otherwise normal people any more, and so their prices will no longer reflect emotional baggage unrelated to function or utility.
Well, here in New Zealand all phones have to be sold as bare handsets, without contracts (and so without subsidies); also, parallel importing is explicitly permitted by law.
In this market, the iPhone is actually cheaper than comparable smartphones, even the parallel imported ones.
The Palm Pre looks very nice, and I'd really like multi-tasking and a better camera, and access to all those old Palm programs would be really nice, but I'm guessing it'll cost half as much again as the iThing.
A retired medievalist says, you gotta lose that idea that there's an Apple Tax or that they're selling pure image.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227371</id>
	<title>WWDC</title>
	<author>iamhigh</author>
	<datestamp>1244194980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What Will Dickheads Conceive?  IDK.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What Will Dickheads Conceive ?
IDK .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What Will Dickheads Conceive?
IDK.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28227147</id>
	<title>Re:Uh-oh, they're catching up! Someone tell Apple!</title>
	<author>DeathMagnetic</author>
	<datestamp>1244193660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think anyone's predicting the fall of Apple, but rather just stating the obvious.  The competition is catching up.  Unless Apple unveils some big surprises next week, there's no denying that the competition is positioned much better than they were a year ago.  Apple's in no imminent danger here, but they are losing ground, and rumors about the next-gen iPhone suggest that there won't me any major innovations coming from them any time soon (and no, OS updates to include features the competition already has don't count).
<br> <br>
As for the Palm Pre, it hasn't achieved anything yet, much less established itself as an iPhone-killer, but it's a little premature to write it off due to lack of apps or lack of actual customers.  It hasn't even been released yet!  Most reviews have been very favorable and put it at least in the same class as the iPhone, which is a big step from where we've been for the last couple of years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think anyone 's predicting the fall of Apple , but rather just stating the obvious .
The competition is catching up .
Unless Apple unveils some big surprises next week , there 's no denying that the competition is positioned much better than they were a year ago .
Apple 's in no imminent danger here , but they are losing ground , and rumors about the next-gen iPhone suggest that there wo n't me any major innovations coming from them any time soon ( and no , OS updates to include features the competition already has do n't count ) .
As for the Palm Pre , it has n't achieved anything yet , much less established itself as an iPhone-killer , but it 's a little premature to write it off due to lack of apps or lack of actual customers .
It has n't even been released yet !
Most reviews have been very favorable and put it at least in the same class as the iPhone , which is a big step from where we 've been for the last couple of years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think anyone's predicting the fall of Apple, but rather just stating the obvious.
The competition is catching up.
Unless Apple unveils some big surprises next week, there's no denying that the competition is positioned much better than they were a year ago.
Apple's in no imminent danger here, but they are losing ground, and rumors about the next-gen iPhone suggest that there won't me any major innovations coming from them any time soon (and no, OS updates to include features the competition already has don't count).
As for the Palm Pre, it hasn't achieved anything yet, much less established itself as an iPhone-killer, but it's a little premature to write it off due to lack of apps or lack of actual customers.
It hasn't even been released yet!
Most reviews have been very favorable and put it at least in the same class as the iPhone, which is a big step from where we've been for the last couple of years.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28232205</id>
	<title>Re:What price drops???</title>
	<author>axp\_bofh</author>
	<datestamp>1244298120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The real reason for the change to variable prices was that in return *ALL* the labels moved to DRM-free tunes.

That was a huge concession by the labels.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The real reason for the change to variable prices was that in return * ALL * the labels moved to DRM-free tunes .
That was a huge concession by the labels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real reason for the change to variable prices was that in return *ALL* the labels moved to DRM-free tunes.
That was a huge concession by the labels.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_05_1816257.28235547</id>
	<title>Re:A crippled phone imho</title>
	<author>Macman408</author>
	<datestamp>1244320320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You say "crippled", I say "design tradeoffs".</p><p>I'm generally willing to trade multitasking for better battery life and apps that don't totally hose the phone. Or a memory card reader for a smaller, cheaper phone (memory cards? what are those anyway?). I couldn't really care less about apps. There's maybe a couple I'd get if I had an iPhone, but not many.</p><p>Damn it Jim, it's a phone, not a laptop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You say " crippled " , I say " design tradeoffs " .I 'm generally willing to trade multitasking for better battery life and apps that do n't totally hose the phone .
Or a memory card reader for a smaller , cheaper phone ( memory cards ?
what are those anyway ? ) .
I could n't really care less about apps .
There 's maybe a couple I 'd get if I had an iPhone , but not many.Damn it Jim , it 's a phone , not a laptop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You say "crippled", I say "design tradeoffs".I'm generally willing to trade multitasking for better battery life and apps that don't totally hose the phone.
Or a memory card reader for a smaller, cheaper phone (memory cards?
what are those anyway?).
I couldn't really care less about apps.
There's maybe a couple I'd get if I had an iPhone, but not many.Damn it Jim, it's a phone, not a laptop.</sentencetext>
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