<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_03_2053208</id>
	<title>Chinese Social Websites Go Under "Maintenance"</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1244024520000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://decanews.com/" rel="nofollow">Shastri</a> writes <i>"After blocking several prominent social websites like Twitter, Youtube ahead of Tiananmen anniversary, by the great firewall of China, some popular social sites in China have also <a href="http://www.danwei.org/net\_nanny\_follies/chinese\_websites\_under\_mainten.php">gone under 'maintenance'</a>. While it is anybody's guess as to whether these events are related or purely coincidental, the announced maintenance come mostly unscheduled and last for several days might give a hint. A <a href="https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=rcz-FpRKSsvyQUnLL1UMjcg&amp;single=true&amp;gid=0&amp;output=html">spreadsheet</a> (in Chinese) is being maintained enumerating the sites that have gone down for a maintenance."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shastri writes " After blocking several prominent social websites like Twitter , Youtube ahead of Tiananmen anniversary , by the great firewall of China , some popular social sites in China have also gone under 'maintenance' .
While it is anybody 's guess as to whether these events are related or purely coincidental , the announced maintenance come mostly unscheduled and last for several days might give a hint .
A spreadsheet ( in Chinese ) is being maintained enumerating the sites that have gone down for a maintenance .
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<sentencetext>Shastri writes "After blocking several prominent social websites like Twitter, Youtube ahead of Tiananmen anniversary, by the great firewall of China, some popular social sites in China have also gone under 'maintenance'.
While it is anybody's guess as to whether these events are related or purely coincidental, the announced maintenance come mostly unscheduled and last for several days might give a hint.
A spreadsheet (in Chinese) is being maintained enumerating the sites that have gone down for a maintenance.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28213153</id>
	<title>China Anniversary</title>
	<author>Headcase88</author>
	<datestamp>1244145120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll tell you what's <i>actually</i> coincidental (though it was inevitable): this is the <a href="http://www.chiff.com/entertain/gifts-anniversary.htm" title="chiff.com">China Anniversary</a> [chiff.com] of the massacre.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll tell you what 's actually coincidental ( though it was inevitable ) : this is the China Anniversary [ chiff.com ] of the massacre .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll tell you what's actually coincidental (though it was inevitable): this is the China Anniversary [chiff.com] of the massacre.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204271</id>
	<title>Re:I, for one, welcome our idiocy-blocking overlor</title>
	<author>MMC Monster</author>
	<datestamp>1244036760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To quote Kris Kristofferson and Fred Foster, "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose".</p><p>While China is economically prosperous, I wonder how many people in China are doing better now than they were 10 years ago.  If the majority aren't doing better, they are in serious trouble.  Maybe not tomorrow, but soon enough.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To quote Kris Kristofferson and Fred Foster , " Freedom 's just another word for nothing left to lose " .While China is economically prosperous , I wonder how many people in China are doing better now than they were 10 years ago .
If the majority are n't doing better , they are in serious trouble .
Maybe not tomorrow , but soon enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To quote Kris Kristofferson and Fred Foster, "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose".While China is economically prosperous, I wonder how many people in China are doing better now than they were 10 years ago.
If the majority aren't doing better, they are in serious trouble.
Maybe not tomorrow, but soon enough.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202657</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28205957</id>
	<title>We Left Hong Kong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244053260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because we are afraid of censorship.</p><p>I'm truly glad the media in Hong Kong are reporting this truthfully.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because we are afraid of censorship.I 'm truly glad the media in Hong Kong are reporting this truthfully .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because we are afraid of censorship.I'm truly glad the media in Hong Kong are reporting this truthfully.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204605</id>
	<title>Re:stop doing business</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244039220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess it's "flamebait" because what the USA does in Iraq is so much better than what China does in China.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess it 's " flamebait " because what the USA does in Iraq is so much better than what China does in China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess it's "flamebait" because what the USA does in Iraq is so much better than what China does in China.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28203785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204441</id>
	<title>Re:Obviously...</title>
	<author>spyder-implee</author>
	<datestamp>1244038080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do Chinese civilians have the right to peaceful protest?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do Chinese civilians have the right to peaceful protest ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do Chinese civilians have the right to peaceful protest?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202593</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28203653</id>
	<title>Are the Chinese bwing counterproductive here?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244032740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At a certain point, does shutting down various websites and muzzling the press have the opposite effect than intended?  Will anger over shutdown websites have those not in the know to ask what happened on this day, and is this something worth clamping down on by the government?  In other words does a government working too hard to suppress knowledge and direct opinions go too far and have the opposite effect and cause unfavorable results?  Also, there are many Chinese factory workers that make all sorts of nice, legitimate products that they can't afford because they would need three months of their wages to buy it.  Wouldn't it make you a bit angry, especially if you worked 60 hours a week, with few other benefits?</p><p>Additionally, mainstream historians are currently of the opinion that what ended communist governments in Eastern Europe had little to do with Ronald Reagan's bluster.  Instead, the current theory roughly goes that instead the citizens just got tired of the government became discontented, and found less overt ways to protest or rebel and eventually the unrest and general lack of popular support caused the government to collapse.  Sorry, Reagan is God fans and libertarians, but large scale armed resistance or large scale protests will probably not happen in China and the final result will not be a libertarian paradise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At a certain point , does shutting down various websites and muzzling the press have the opposite effect than intended ?
Will anger over shutdown websites have those not in the know to ask what happened on this day , and is this something worth clamping down on by the government ?
In other words does a government working too hard to suppress knowledge and direct opinions go too far and have the opposite effect and cause unfavorable results ?
Also , there are many Chinese factory workers that make all sorts of nice , legitimate products that they ca n't afford because they would need three months of their wages to buy it .
Would n't it make you a bit angry , especially if you worked 60 hours a week , with few other benefits ? Additionally , mainstream historians are currently of the opinion that what ended communist governments in Eastern Europe had little to do with Ronald Reagan 's bluster .
Instead , the current theory roughly goes that instead the citizens just got tired of the government became discontented , and found less overt ways to protest or rebel and eventually the unrest and general lack of popular support caused the government to collapse .
Sorry , Reagan is God fans and libertarians , but large scale armed resistance or large scale protests will probably not happen in China and the final result will not be a libertarian paradise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At a certain point, does shutting down various websites and muzzling the press have the opposite effect than intended?
Will anger over shutdown websites have those not in the know to ask what happened on this day, and is this something worth clamping down on by the government?
In other words does a government working too hard to suppress knowledge and direct opinions go too far and have the opposite effect and cause unfavorable results?
Also, there are many Chinese factory workers that make all sorts of nice, legitimate products that they can't afford because they would need three months of their wages to buy it.
Wouldn't it make you a bit angry, especially if you worked 60 hours a week, with few other benefits?Additionally, mainstream historians are currently of the opinion that what ended communist governments in Eastern Europe had little to do with Ronald Reagan's bluster.
Instead, the current theory roughly goes that instead the citizens just got tired of the government became discontented, and found less overt ways to protest or rebel and eventually the unrest and general lack of popular support caused the government to collapse.
Sorry, Reagan is God fans and libertarians, but large scale armed resistance or large scale protests will probably not happen in China and the final result will not be a libertarian paradise.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28203311</id>
	<title>When in doubt....</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1244031240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>....make sure you use scare quotes. That's the only way to "communicate" a trivial "fact" can call it "news".</htmltext>
<tokenext>....make sure you use scare quotes .
That 's the only way to " communicate " a trivial " fact " can call it " news " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>....make sure you use scare quotes.
That's the only way to "communicate" a trivial "fact" can call it "news".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28206431</id>
	<title>Re:This is more like a silent protest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244147520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Another thing I've noted is how pointless it is to talk with Chinese about their politics. They are extremely sensitive and immediately get defensive. A hong kong girl was talking about this event with a mainland student and she became very agitated. The chinese guy was absolutely overwhelmed by the critics, didn't know how to react (he was the only chinese in a group of international students) and immediately started to defend the government's action, saying things like sometimes politics has to use violence to achieve it's goal... (basically implying that they did the right thing)</p></div><p>Did this happen in China? If yes, did you consider  the possibility that he simply didn't consider it safe to say what he really thought?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Another thing I 've noted is how pointless it is to talk with Chinese about their politics .
They are extremely sensitive and immediately get defensive .
A hong kong girl was talking about this event with a mainland student and she became very agitated .
The chinese guy was absolutely overwhelmed by the critics , did n't know how to react ( he was the only chinese in a group of international students ) and immediately started to defend the government 's action , saying things like sometimes politics has to use violence to achieve it 's goal... ( basically implying that they did the right thing ) Did this happen in China ?
If yes , did you consider the possibility that he simply did n't consider it safe to say what he really thought ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another thing I've noted is how pointless it is to talk with Chinese about their politics.
They are extremely sensitive and immediately get defensive.
A hong kong girl was talking about this event with a mainland student and she became very agitated.
The chinese guy was absolutely overwhelmed by the critics, didn't know how to react (he was the only chinese in a group of international students) and immediately started to defend the government's action, saying things like sometimes politics has to use violence to achieve it's goal... (basically implying that they did the right thing)Did this happen in China?
If yes, did you consider  the possibility that he simply didn't consider it safe to say what he really thought?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204239</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202751</id>
	<title>Maintenance of...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244028840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the Communist state and political ideology. Noone could seriously think that the Communist party would not use any available tool to keep power.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the Communist state and political ideology .
Noone could seriously think that the Communist party would not use any available tool to keep power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the Communist state and political ideology.
Noone could seriously think that the Communist party would not use any available tool to keep power.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28205683</id>
	<title>People are still discussing it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244049780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People who knows about it are using May 35th, Red Square, something Twen0 (use Chinese character for two and digit or litter O for zero) etc. Unfortunately, many teenagers don't know about, so they cannot understand what's Twen0 means, students abroad don't believe it, they think that was because US Gov lying to Chinese and want Chinese people "kill" their own Gov by themselves. Even people from elsewhere but not Beijing aged 40 or 50 (They were students at that time, and joined the event) cannot believe what happened in Beijing, they questioned my family, was that ture? Damn it we were about dying that time but they don't believe it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People who knows about it are using May 35th , Red Square , something Twen0 ( use Chinese character for two and digit or litter O for zero ) etc .
Unfortunately , many teenagers do n't know about , so they can not understand what 's Twen0 means , students abroad do n't believe it , they think that was because US Gov lying to Chinese and want Chinese people " kill " their own Gov by themselves .
Even people from elsewhere but not Beijing aged 40 or 50 ( They were students at that time , and joined the event ) can not believe what happened in Beijing , they questioned my family , was that ture ?
Damn it we were about dying that time but they do n't believe it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who knows about it are using May 35th, Red Square, something Twen0 (use Chinese character for two and digit or litter O for zero) etc.
Unfortunately, many teenagers don't know about, so they cannot understand what's Twen0 means, students abroad don't believe it, they think that was because US Gov lying to Chinese and want Chinese people "kill" their own Gov by themselves.
Even people from elsewhere but not Beijing aged 40 or 50 (They were students at that time, and joined the event) cannot believe what happened in Beijing, they questioned my family, was that ture?
Damn it we were about dying that time but they don't believe it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28207849</id>
	<title>Re:This is more like a silent protest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244121960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. I'm impressed; what subtle, elegant subterfuge. How very Chinese<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) The "wear a white t-shirt" is genius<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p><p>2. Don't be an asshole, don't gang up on an individual unless you want to be proud of your fascism. Treating other people well does not negate your point of view, done right it can make it much stronger (learn from point 1 above).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
I 'm impressed ; what subtle , elegant subterfuge .
How very Chinese : ) The " wear a white t-shirt " is genius : D2 .
Do n't be an asshole , do n't gang up on an individual unless you want to be proud of your fascism .
Treating other people well does not negate your point of view , done right it can make it much stronger ( learn from point 1 above ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
I'm impressed; what subtle, elegant subterfuge.
How very Chinese :) The "wear a white t-shirt" is genius :D2.
Don't be an asshole, don't gang up on an individual unless you want to be proud of your fascism.
Treating other people well does not negate your point of view, done right it can make it much stronger (learn from point 1 above).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204239</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28205463</id>
	<title>Re:This is more like a silent protest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244047140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did you tell him "welcome to Guantanamo"? While the Chinese have historically been awful about quelling even polite and peaceful protest, they're hardly the only ones to use violence against untried, possibly innocent people for political reasons.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you tell him " welcome to Guantanamo " ?
While the Chinese have historically been awful about quelling even polite and peaceful protest , they 're hardly the only ones to use violence against untried , possibly innocent people for political reasons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you tell him "welcome to Guantanamo"?
While the Chinese have historically been awful about quelling even polite and peaceful protest, they're hardly the only ones to use violence against untried, possibly innocent people for political reasons.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204239</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28207351</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244117160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A bit like the cameras in london go "down for maintenance" whenever there is a protest.  the maintenance even follows protests from street to street - amazing!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A bit like the cameras in london go " down for maintenance " whenever there is a protest .
the maintenance even follows protests from street to street - amazing ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A bit like the cameras in london go "down for maintenance" whenever there is a protest.
the maintenance even follows protests from street to street - amazing!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28205207</id>
	<title>Re:I, for one, welcome our idiocy-blocking overlor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244044440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, from 1958-61, an estimated 20-40 million people starved to death.  Those events are still firmly in many people's memories.  So while "prosperous" might not be the best word to describe most people, anybody middle aged or older has seen some fairly large improvements, materially, in their lives, and generally feel that the younger generation has an even brighter future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , from 1958-61 , an estimated 20-40 million people starved to death .
Those events are still firmly in many people 's memories .
So while " prosperous " might not be the best word to describe most people , anybody middle aged or older has seen some fairly large improvements , materially , in their lives , and generally feel that the younger generation has an even brighter future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, from 1958-61, an estimated 20-40 million people starved to death.
Those events are still firmly in many people's memories.
So while "prosperous" might not be the best word to describe most people, anybody middle aged or older has seen some fairly large improvements, materially, in their lives, and generally feel that the younger generation has an even brighter future.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204271</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202657</id>
	<title>I, for one, welcome our idiocy-blocking overlords</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244028480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>After blocking several prominent social websites like <b>Twitter</b></p> </div><p> <b>Thank</b> you!</p><p>Freedom is <i>so</i> overrated.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>After blocking several prominent social websites like Twitter Thank you ! Freedom is so overrated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After blocking several prominent social websites like Twitter  Thank you!Freedom is so overrated.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204151</id>
	<title>Re:Xiaonei censorship</title>
	<author>vampire\_baozi</author>
	<datestamp>1244035920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just tried it too, same error.  "Please don't post anything related to politics, etc....."</p><p>Also, Xiaonei is definitely experiencing other problems- many of my friends have reported problems with the "sharing" feature, and most also know the reason why sample response: "Oh, that's because its today, didn't you know?"</p><p>So, I think most Chinese know, or they can guess the reason why.</p><p>I'd try posting a few other things as experiments on XIaonei and Tudou, but I'd rather not risk getting my visa revoked, thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just tried it too , same error .
" Please do n't post anything related to politics , etc..... " Also , Xiaonei is definitely experiencing other problems- many of my friends have reported problems with the " sharing " feature , and most also know the reason why sample response : " Oh , that 's because its today , did n't you know ?
" So , I think most Chinese know , or they can guess the reason why.I 'd try posting a few other things as experiments on XIaonei and Tudou , but I 'd rather not risk getting my visa revoked , thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just tried it too, same error.
"Please don't post anything related to politics, etc....."Also, Xiaonei is definitely experiencing other problems- many of my friends have reported problems with the "sharing" feature, and most also know the reason why sample response: "Oh, that's because its today, didn't you know?
"So, I think most Chinese know, or they can guess the reason why.I'd try posting a few other things as experiments on XIaonei and Tudou, but I'd rather not risk getting my visa revoked, thanks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202875</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204497</id>
	<title>Re:Obviously...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244038560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I despise a fascist government as much as the next guy... but is there any evidence that this is orchestrated by the party, or is this a for of silent protest by the websites in question?  I would prefer to think that it is the latter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I despise a fascist government as much as the next guy... but is there any evidence that this is orchestrated by the party , or is this a for of silent protest by the websites in question ?
I would prefer to think that it is the latter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I despise a fascist government as much as the next guy... but is there any evidence that this is orchestrated by the party, or is this a for of silent protest by the websites in question?
I would prefer to think that it is the latter.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202593</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202685</id>
	<title>Interesting what happens</title>
	<author>aaandre</author>
	<datestamp>1244028600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...when governments realize that the truth of what they are actually doing will shock, disgust, appall their people.</p><p>IMHO free flowing information is what ultimately caused taking down the Berlin wall.</p><p>Now, that we know that our governments torture, steal, abuse their power, serve the money-printing oligarchy instead of serving us, what are we going to do?</p><p>I guess... <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/andreinla/235687297/" title="flickr.com">http://www.flickr.com/photos/andreinla/235687297/</a> [flickr.com]</p><p>and</p><p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/andreinla/3135176066/" title="flickr.com">http://www.flickr.com/photos/andreinla/3135176066/</a> [flickr.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...when governments realize that the truth of what they are actually doing will shock , disgust , appall their people.IMHO free flowing information is what ultimately caused taking down the Berlin wall.Now , that we know that our governments torture , steal , abuse their power , serve the money-printing oligarchy instead of serving us , what are we going to do ? I guess... http : //www.flickr.com/photos/andreinla/235687297/ [ flickr.com ] andhttp : //www.flickr.com/photos/andreinla/3135176066/ [ flickr.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...when governments realize that the truth of what they are actually doing will shock, disgust, appall their people.IMHO free flowing information is what ultimately caused taking down the Berlin wall.Now, that we know that our governments torture, steal, abuse their power, serve the money-printing oligarchy instead of serving us, what are we going to do?I guess... http://www.flickr.com/photos/andreinla/235687297/ [flickr.com]andhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/andreinla/3135176066/ [flickr.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28220289</id>
	<title>Re:I, for one, welcome our idiocy-blocking overlor</title>
	<author>Kaiwen</author>
	<datestamp>1244204280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't have figures for ten years ago, but since the institution of economic reforms in 1978, by most estimates some 54 percent of the Chinese population has been lifted out of poverty (64\% in 1978 vs. 10\% in 2004). In fact, recent World Bank revised estimates (<a href="http://eapblog.worldbank.org/content/new-ppps-reveal-china-has-had-more-poverty-reduction-than-we-thought" title="worldbank.org">http://eapblog.worldbank.org/content/new-ppps-reveal-china-has-had-more-poverty-reduction-than-we-thought</a> [worldbank.org]) push the '78 poverty rate up to 69\%. making the reduction even greater. According to this Wikipedia article (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty\_in\_China" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty\_in\_China</a> [wikipedia.org]), China has had the world's fastest growing economy for the past quarter century, with a resultant "huge increase in standards of living".

<p>Lee Kaiwen,
Shanghai, China</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't have figures for ten years ago , but since the institution of economic reforms in 1978 , by most estimates some 54 percent of the Chinese population has been lifted out of poverty ( 64 \ % in 1978 vs. 10 \ % in 2004 ) .
In fact , recent World Bank revised estimates ( http : //eapblog.worldbank.org/content/new-ppps-reveal-china-has-had-more-poverty-reduction-than-we-thought [ worldbank.org ] ) push the '78 poverty rate up to 69 \ % .
making the reduction even greater .
According to this Wikipedia article ( http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty \ _in \ _China [ wikipedia.org ] ) , China has had the world 's fastest growing economy for the past quarter century , with a resultant " huge increase in standards of living " .
Lee Kaiwen , Shanghai , China</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't have figures for ten years ago, but since the institution of economic reforms in 1978, by most estimates some 54 percent of the Chinese population has been lifted out of poverty (64\% in 1978 vs. 10\% in 2004).
In fact, recent World Bank revised estimates (http://eapblog.worldbank.org/content/new-ppps-reveal-china-has-had-more-poverty-reduction-than-we-thought [worldbank.org]) push the '78 poverty rate up to 69\%.
making the reduction even greater.
According to this Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty\_in\_China [wikipedia.org]), China has had the world's fastest growing economy for the past quarter century, with a resultant "huge increase in standards of living".
Lee Kaiwen,
Shanghai, China</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204271</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202661</id>
	<title>Solidarity?</title>
	<author>DeadDecoy</author>
	<datestamp>1244028480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Interesting. At first, in reading the summary, I thought this was the governments attempt to censor various sites. However, the article seems to imply that this is some passive aggressive form at protesting the censorship by major social websites. It's kinda like having an enemy go on a hunger strike to protest killing his people. It sounds interesting, in the current environment, it'll probably have the same effect as online petitions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting .
At first , in reading the summary , I thought this was the governments attempt to censor various sites .
However , the article seems to imply that this is some passive aggressive form at protesting the censorship by major social websites .
It 's kinda like having an enemy go on a hunger strike to protest killing his people .
It sounds interesting , in the current environment , it 'll probably have the same effect as online petitions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting.
At first, in reading the summary, I thought this was the governments attempt to censor various sites.
However, the article seems to imply that this is some passive aggressive form at protesting the censorship by major social websites.
It's kinda like having an enemy go on a hunger strike to protest killing his people.
It sounds interesting, in the current environment, it'll probably have the same effect as online petitions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28206205</id>
	<title>Can't even read the first sentence</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244058000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good Lord, the first sentence of this post is so dreadfully worded that I had to read it three times. Can *anybody* tell me that this sentence structure makes sense?</p><p>"After blocking several prominent social websites like Twitter, Youtube ahead of Tiananmen anniversary, by the great firewall of China, some popular social sites in China have also gone under 'maintenance'."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good Lord , the first sentence of this post is so dreadfully worded that I had to read it three times .
Can * anybody * tell me that this sentence structure makes sense ?
" After blocking several prominent social websites like Twitter , Youtube ahead of Tiananmen anniversary , by the great firewall of China , some popular social sites in China have also gone under 'maintenance' .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good Lord, the first sentence of this post is so dreadfully worded that I had to read it three times.
Can *anybody* tell me that this sentence structure makes sense?
"After blocking several prominent social websites like Twitter, Youtube ahead of Tiananmen anniversary, by the great firewall of China, some popular social sites in China have also gone under 'maintenance'.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202875</id>
	<title>Xiaonei censorship</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244029320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So I was hoping to announce this to my Chinese friends, but looks like on Xiaonei, you're not allowed to write <a href="http://www.danwei.org/net\_nanny\_follies/chinese\_websites\_under\_mainten.php" title="danwei.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.danwei.org/net\_nanny\_follies/chinese\_websites\_under\_mainten.php</a> [danwei.org], &#228;&#229;&#189;&#231;&#189;'&#231;(TM)&#231;&#230;S, tiananmen, or the link to the spreadsheet.  If you do, it gives you the following error: "&#232;&#228;&#232;&#166;&#229;'&#229;f&#230;"&#230;&#230;&#230;Y&#229;...&#229;&#174;&#227;&#232;&#230;f...&#229;...&#229;&#174;&#227;&#229;&#228;s&#229;&#229;'S&#230;-&#229;...&#228;-&#228;&#230;&#229;&#189;"&#229;...&#229;&#174;" (no politically sensitive stuff, porn, or ads, etc.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So I was hoping to announce this to my Chinese friends , but looks like on Xiaonei , you 're not allowed to write http : //www.danwei.org/net \ _nanny \ _follies/chinese \ _websites \ _under \ _mainten.php [ danwei.org ] ,           '   ( TM )     S , tiananmen , or the link to the spreadsheet .
If you do , it gives you the following error : "           '   f   "       Y   ...           f...   ...           s     'S   -   ...   -         "   ...     " ( no politically sensitive stuff , porn , or ads , etc .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I was hoping to announce this to my Chinese friends, but looks like on Xiaonei, you're not allowed to write http://www.danwei.org/net\_nanny\_follies/chinese\_websites\_under\_mainten.php [danwei.org], äå½ç½'ç(TM)çæS, tiananmen, or the link to the spreadsheet.
If you do, it gives you the following error: "èäè¦å'åfæ"æææYå...å®ãèæf...å...å®ãåäsåå'Sæ-å...ä-äæå½"å...å®" (no politically sensitive stuff, porn, or ads, etc.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28205379</id>
	<title>Parallels to the US</title>
	<author>mi</author>
	<datestamp>1244046120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Amazingly, there remain people, who would argue, that the US is either "the same" or "not much better", and deny, that China's human rights record is particularly bad.

</p><p>I mean, just imagine, the US government shutting down <a href="http://www.marketingvox.com/sf-activists-use-twitter-to-coordinate-war-protest-037478/" title="marketingvox.com">Twitter</a> [marketingvox.com] or any Leftist web-site at around, say, Iraq-invasion anniversary...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazingly , there remain people , who would argue , that the US is either " the same " or " not much better " , and deny , that China 's human rights record is particularly bad .
I mean , just imagine , the US government shutting down Twitter [ marketingvox.com ] or any Leftist web-site at around , say , Iraq-invasion anniversary.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazingly, there remain people, who would argue, that the US is either "the same" or "not much better", and deny, that China's human rights record is particularly bad.
I mean, just imagine, the US government shutting down Twitter [marketingvox.com] or any Leftist web-site at around, say, Iraq-invasion anniversary...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28207899</id>
	<title>Nothing to see here...</title>
	<author>happy\_place</author>
	<datestamp>1244122320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tieneman Square was also just maintenance...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tieneman Square was also just maintenance.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tieneman Square was also just maintenance...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28205309</id>
	<title>Voluntary downtime as a silent protest</title>
	<author>gzipped\_tar</author>
	<datestamp>1244045400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>or they could just copy the Slashdot way and put the messages in HTTP respond headers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>or they could just copy the Slashdot way and put the messages in HTTP respond headers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or they could just copy the Slashdot way and put the messages in HTTP respond headers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204613</id>
	<title>Nerd cue Tiananmen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244039280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Under maintenance" is obviously a message coded in anagram.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Under maintenance " is obviously a message coded in anagram .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Under maintenance" is obviously a message coded in anagram.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204471</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting what happens</title>
	<author>Celeste R</author>
	<datestamp>1244038320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Generally, people don't mind so much if it's only an idea 'out there', instead of a concrete idea that they're dealing with.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Now, that we know that our governments torture, steal, abuse their power, serve the money-printing oligarchy instead of serving us, what are we going to do?</p></div><p>It's historically only been the observant people who protest, and oddly enough, they're also the first people who are silenced.  Consider extortion, fear of material security, censorship, etc.</p><p>As an observant person also, I see people pulling strings.  A chinese proverb comes to mind (paraphrased):  when the government becomes corrupt or unstable, go to the mountains.  It makes sense when you think about it, because the insular safety and security of a remote location is an ideal thing for a family lineage.</p><p>Granted, the possibility of us doing so is much smaller, because we (as an intellectual group of people) tend to stick to the population centers.  However, we can move.  We -can- move out of the nation to find political stability.  We -can- have a hand not in fighting a system going downhill, but in building a system going uphill.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Generally , people do n't mind so much if it 's only an idea 'out there ' , instead of a concrete idea that they 're dealing with.Now , that we know that our governments torture , steal , abuse their power , serve the money-printing oligarchy instead of serving us , what are we going to do ? It 's historically only been the observant people who protest , and oddly enough , they 're also the first people who are silenced .
Consider extortion , fear of material security , censorship , etc.As an observant person also , I see people pulling strings .
A chinese proverb comes to mind ( paraphrased ) : when the government becomes corrupt or unstable , go to the mountains .
It makes sense when you think about it , because the insular safety and security of a remote location is an ideal thing for a family lineage.Granted , the possibility of us doing so is much smaller , because we ( as an intellectual group of people ) tend to stick to the population centers .
However , we can move .
We -can- move out of the nation to find political stability .
We -can- have a hand not in fighting a system going downhill , but in building a system going uphill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Generally, people don't mind so much if it's only an idea 'out there', instead of a concrete idea that they're dealing with.Now, that we know that our governments torture, steal, abuse their power, serve the money-printing oligarchy instead of serving us, what are we going to do?It's historically only been the observant people who protest, and oddly enough, they're also the first people who are silenced.
Consider extortion, fear of material security, censorship, etc.As an observant person also, I see people pulling strings.
A chinese proverb comes to mind (paraphrased):  when the government becomes corrupt or unstable, go to the mountains.
It makes sense when you think about it, because the insular safety and security of a remote location is an ideal thing for a family lineage.Granted, the possibility of us doing so is much smaller, because we (as an intellectual group of people) tend to stick to the population centers.
However, we can move.
We -can- move out of the nation to find political stability.
We -can- have a hand not in fighting a system going downhill, but in building a system going uphill.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202685</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204239</id>
	<title>This is more like a silent protest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244036460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This "maintenance' was done by the webmasters themselves. When you look at the spreadsheet most websites are not that popular and created by hobbyists. Furthermore they stated that they participated voluntarily. Some of the messages are really interesting:</p><p>thequietsnow.com:<br>Due to a reason we all know this site is presently under maintenannce.<br>The site will be under non-technical maintenance from 3. Juin to 6. Juin<br>[...]<br>For a harmonious environment, to make an appeal to create a harmonious sociaty, I advice all webmasters and internet users to do the following during maintenance period;<br>1. Go out for a walk, get some fresh air, due to the hot weather, please wear a white t-shirt<br>2. Since the current internet is extremely unharmonious, in order to create a healty and harmonious internet environment, please put all your websites into "maintenance state", in oder to provide a better net environment<br>3. If you don't want to put your site into "maintenance state", please change your site into black and white colors, in oder to provide a better net environment<br>4. Please put your site onto the maintenance spreedsheat.</p><p>whenn.net:<br>Long live the harmony~~~<br>Due to a reason we all know<br>In order to supress my extremely unharmonious thoughts<br>this blog voluntarily will go under "technical and non-technical maintenance"</p><p>passcd.com<br>Just says "20" on the page</p><p>So really, this "maintenance day" is a good sign. It makes a lot of net users aware of the event, since a lot of young Chinese haven't been confronted with this event a lot. This hopefully makes them to think more...</p><p>On xiaonei, many statuses get blocked, too, with the warning not to post "politically sensitive" content. Being in Tsinghua as an international student, I've seen Chinese students testing and changing their statuses with messages like "Democracy, Freedom, CCP,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..." It was shortly after midnight that Xiaonei.com even crashed for a while due to the massive status changes. But it seems to me the young generation sees this testing more as a game and really doesn't grasp the seriousness.</p><p>What really striked me was that one status saying "In memory of 8^2 5!/3! years" got deleted on xiaonei... (You math and comp sci nerds can figure the hidden message out<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) )</p><p>Another thing I've noted is how pointless it is to talk with Chinese about their politics. They are extremely sensitive and immediately get defensive. A hong kong girl was talking about this event with a mainland student and she became very agitated. The chinese guy was absolutely overwhelmed by the critics, didn't know how to react (he was the only chinese in a group of international students) and immediately started to defend the government's action, saying things like sometimes politics has to use violence to achieve it's goal... (basically implying that they did the right thing)</p><p>Anyway, I just hope that, untill China finally faces this event correctly, people in other countries will do all their efforts not to let it become forgotten.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This " maintenance ' was done by the webmasters themselves .
When you look at the spreadsheet most websites are not that popular and created by hobbyists .
Furthermore they stated that they participated voluntarily .
Some of the messages are really interesting : thequietsnow.com : Due to a reason we all know this site is presently under maintenannce.The site will be under non-technical maintenance from 3 .
Juin to 6 .
Juin [ ... ] For a harmonious environment , to make an appeal to create a harmonious sociaty , I advice all webmasters and internet users to do the following during maintenance period ; 1 .
Go out for a walk , get some fresh air , due to the hot weather , please wear a white t-shirt2 .
Since the current internet is extremely unharmonious , in order to create a healty and harmonious internet environment , please put all your websites into " maintenance state " , in oder to provide a better net environment3 .
If you do n't want to put your site into " maintenance state " , please change your site into black and white colors , in oder to provide a better net environment4 .
Please put your site onto the maintenance spreedsheat.whenn.net : Long live the harmony ~ ~ ~ Due to a reason we all knowIn order to supress my extremely unharmonious thoughtsthis blog voluntarily will go under " technical and non-technical maintenance " passcd.comJust says " 20 " on the pageSo really , this " maintenance day " is a good sign .
It makes a lot of net users aware of the event , since a lot of young Chinese have n't been confronted with this event a lot .
This hopefully makes them to think more...On xiaonei , many statuses get blocked , too , with the warning not to post " politically sensitive " content .
Being in Tsinghua as an international student , I 've seen Chinese students testing and changing their statuses with messages like " Democracy , Freedom , CCP , ... " It was shortly after midnight that Xiaonei.com even crashed for a while due to the massive status changes .
But it seems to me the young generation sees this testing more as a game and really does n't grasp the seriousness.What really striked me was that one status saying " In memory of 8 ^ 2 5 ! /3 !
years " got deleted on xiaonei... ( You math and comp sci nerds can figure the hidden message out ; ) ) Another thing I 've noted is how pointless it is to talk with Chinese about their politics .
They are extremely sensitive and immediately get defensive .
A hong kong girl was talking about this event with a mainland student and she became very agitated .
The chinese guy was absolutely overwhelmed by the critics , did n't know how to react ( he was the only chinese in a group of international students ) and immediately started to defend the government 's action , saying things like sometimes politics has to use violence to achieve it 's goal... ( basically implying that they did the right thing ) Anyway , I just hope that , untill China finally faces this event correctly , people in other countries will do all their efforts not to let it become forgotten .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This "maintenance' was done by the webmasters themselves.
When you look at the spreadsheet most websites are not that popular and created by hobbyists.
Furthermore they stated that they participated voluntarily.
Some of the messages are really interesting:thequietsnow.com:Due to a reason we all know this site is presently under maintenannce.The site will be under non-technical maintenance from 3.
Juin to 6.
Juin[...]For a harmonious environment, to make an appeal to create a harmonious sociaty, I advice all webmasters and internet users to do the following during maintenance period;1.
Go out for a walk, get some fresh air, due to the hot weather, please wear a white t-shirt2.
Since the current internet is extremely unharmonious, in order to create a healty and harmonious internet environment, please put all your websites into "maintenance state", in oder to provide a better net environment3.
If you don't want to put your site into "maintenance state", please change your site into black and white colors, in oder to provide a better net environment4.
Please put your site onto the maintenance spreedsheat.whenn.net:Long live the harmony~~~Due to a reason we all knowIn order to supress my extremely unharmonious thoughtsthis blog voluntarily will go under "technical and non-technical maintenance"passcd.comJust says "20" on the pageSo really, this "maintenance day" is a good sign.
It makes a lot of net users aware of the event, since a lot of young Chinese haven't been confronted with this event a lot.
This hopefully makes them to think more...On xiaonei, many statuses get blocked, too, with the warning not to post "politically sensitive" content.
Being in Tsinghua as an international student, I've seen Chinese students testing and changing their statuses with messages like "Democracy, Freedom, CCP, ..." It was shortly after midnight that Xiaonei.com even crashed for a while due to the massive status changes.
But it seems to me the young generation sees this testing more as a game and really doesn't grasp the seriousness.What really striked me was that one status saying "In memory of 8^2 5!/3!
years" got deleted on xiaonei... (You math and comp sci nerds can figure the hidden message out ;) )Another thing I've noted is how pointless it is to talk with Chinese about their politics.
They are extremely sensitive and immediately get defensive.
A hong kong girl was talking about this event with a mainland student and she became very agitated.
The chinese guy was absolutely overwhelmed by the critics, didn't know how to react (he was the only chinese in a group of international students) and immediately started to defend the government's action, saying things like sometimes politics has to use violence to achieve it's goal... (basically implying that they did the right thing)Anyway, I just hope that, untill China finally faces this event correctly, people in other countries will do all their efforts not to let it become forgotten.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202593</id>
	<title>Obviously...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244028240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They don't want any organised protests.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't want any organised protests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't want any organised protests.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28202673</id>
	<title>Coincidence?</title>
	<author>reidiq</author>
	<datestamp>1244028540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Coincidence? I think not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Coincidence ?
I think not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coincidence?
I think not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28208709</id>
	<title>Re:Parallels to the US</title>
	<author>oreaq</author>
	<datestamp>1244126640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some might argue that the real atrocity is the beating and killing of peaceful, unarmed students. Or the raping, beating and killing of some random prisoners in some foreign country that one has no business to be in in the first place.</p><p>But you're right. When it comes to the important stuff like using Twitter and watching Britney's twat then the good old U.S.A. is still way ahead of the communist bastards from China.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some might argue that the real atrocity is the beating and killing of peaceful , unarmed students .
Or the raping , beating and killing of some random prisoners in some foreign country that one has no business to be in in the first place.But you 're right .
When it comes to the important stuff like using Twitter and watching Britney 's twat then the good old U.S.A. is still way ahead of the communist bastards from China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some might argue that the real atrocity is the beating and killing of peaceful, unarmed students.
Or the raping, beating and killing of some random prisoners in some foreign country that one has no business to be in in the first place.But you're right.
When it comes to the important stuff like using Twitter and watching Britney's twat then the good old U.S.A. is still way ahead of the communist bastards from China.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28284799</id>
	<title>Re:This is more like a silent protest</title>
	<author>lilyneao</author>
	<datestamp>1244626440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm the webmaster of "the quietsnow.com".This is a "interesting"  activity for some of webmasters.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm the webmaster of " the quietsnow.com " .This is a " interesting " activity for some of webmasters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm the webmaster of "the quietsnow.com".This is a "interesting"  activity for some of webmasters.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28205421</id>
	<title>If anyone is wondering about the real reason...</title>
	<author>sethstorm</author>
	<datestamp>1244046660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen\_Square\_protests\_of\_1989" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">This is why</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>In short, a massacre followed by a cover-up of the events.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why [ wikipedia.org ] In short , a massacre followed by a cover-up of the events .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why [wikipedia.org]In short, a massacre followed by a cover-up of the events.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28203119</id>
	<title>Re:Obviously...</title>
	<author>Jurily</author>
	<datestamp>1244030340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They don't want any organised protests.</p></div><p>They just want to install their own plugin to the databases.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't want any organised protests.They just want to install their own plugin to the databases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't want any organised protests.They just want to install their own plugin to the databases.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204177</id>
	<title>Go ahead and let CCP censor the whole world. . .</title>
	<author>LostInTaiwan</author>
	<datestamp>1244036100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>
This may not be a bad thing.  Every June 4th we mount an all out vigil for the Tienanmen Square massacre.  We add it to our website, add it to every message and email we send out on that day.   Maybe the "middle class" Chinese, the ones most likely to make a difference, the ones with the education and financial resources to access the web and interact with the rest of the world will notice something amiss within their "harmonious" society when every June 4th their Internet goes blank.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This may not be a bad thing .
Every June 4th we mount an all out vigil for the Tienanmen Square massacre .
We add it to our website , add it to every message and email we send out on that day .
Maybe the " middle class " Chinese , the ones most likely to make a difference , the ones with the education and financial resources to access the web and interact with the rest of the world will notice something amiss within their " harmonious " society when every June 4th their Internet goes blank .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
This may not be a bad thing.
Every June 4th we mount an all out vigil for the Tienanmen Square massacre.
We add it to our website, add it to every message and email we send out on that day.
Maybe the "middle class" Chinese, the ones most likely to make a difference, the ones with the education and financial resources to access the web and interact with the rest of the world will notice something amiss within their "harmonious" society when every June 4th their Internet goes blank.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28204269</id>
	<title>Purely Coincidental.</title>
	<author>vampire\_baozi</author>
	<datestamp>1244036760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not.</p><p>Chinese internet users aren't stupid, they know what is going on.  In many cases, all it does is call attention to the anniversary, perhaps more than would have been paid otherwise.</p><p>In any case, most Chinese I know seem fairly cynical about it.  A translated conversation from Xiaonei, in response to a blog post by a friend about the economic crisis:</p><p>AAA: Well written!!  But why can't I share it? (think Facebook sharing, posting a link to it on your own homepage)<br>BBB: Yeah, I can't share it either.  Must be because it's today!<br>000(the author): Well, I can post it, you guys should be able to share it....<br>CCC: (a few comments about the actual content of the article)<br>DDD: I guess Xiaonei is having problems recently.  Anything with numbers seems to run into problems.<br>AAA: Anything with certain numbers runs into problems around this time of year....<br>EEE: I'm sure this maintenance is perfectly normal, as it is for all other Chinese websites right now.(sarcasm)<br>BBB: There is no spoon~~! (this in English)<br>FFF: Wow, nice word choice guys.<br>Bad translation, there was a good pun or two in there I couldn't figure out how to translate.  In any case, they're masters at not using any words censors would find suspicious.  But they're all at least aware of it, even if its a minor annoyance.</p><p>And it will probably remain just that: A minor annoyance for most, perhaps making them remember, but they don't care that much.  The ones that really want to protest will just use text messages or IM anyway, and even they hardcore democracy types know where the line is drawn.  For the most part, it seems really unnecessary.  If they really wanted to organize protests, they'd have been organized long before the 3 days before the anniversary, and then use texting or cells or IM to expand.  I doubt there will be any protests to speak of anyway- the Chinese sort of have a silent agreement here, they know where to draw the line.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not.Chinese internet users are n't stupid , they know what is going on .
In many cases , all it does is call attention to the anniversary , perhaps more than would have been paid otherwise.In any case , most Chinese I know seem fairly cynical about it .
A translated conversation from Xiaonei , in response to a blog post by a friend about the economic crisis : AAA : Well written ! !
But why ca n't I share it ?
( think Facebook sharing , posting a link to it on your own homepage ) BBB : Yeah , I ca n't share it either .
Must be because it 's today ! 000 ( the author ) : Well , I can post it , you guys should be able to share it....CCC : ( a few comments about the actual content of the article ) DDD : I guess Xiaonei is having problems recently .
Anything with numbers seems to run into problems.AAA : Anything with certain numbers runs into problems around this time of year....EEE : I 'm sure this maintenance is perfectly normal , as it is for all other Chinese websites right now .
( sarcasm ) BBB : There is no spoon ~ ~ !
( this in English ) FFF : Wow , nice word choice guys.Bad translation , there was a good pun or two in there I could n't figure out how to translate .
In any case , they 're masters at not using any words censors would find suspicious .
But they 're all at least aware of it , even if its a minor annoyance.And it will probably remain just that : A minor annoyance for most , perhaps making them remember , but they do n't care that much .
The ones that really want to protest will just use text messages or IM anyway , and even they hardcore democracy types know where the line is drawn .
For the most part , it seems really unnecessary .
If they really wanted to organize protests , they 'd have been organized long before the 3 days before the anniversary , and then use texting or cells or IM to expand .
I doubt there will be any protests to speak of anyway- the Chinese sort of have a silent agreement here , they know where to draw the line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not.Chinese internet users aren't stupid, they know what is going on.
In many cases, all it does is call attention to the anniversary, perhaps more than would have been paid otherwise.In any case, most Chinese I know seem fairly cynical about it.
A translated conversation from Xiaonei, in response to a blog post by a friend about the economic crisis:AAA: Well written!!
But why can't I share it?
(think Facebook sharing, posting a link to it on your own homepage)BBB: Yeah, I can't share it either.
Must be because it's today!000(the author): Well, I can post it, you guys should be able to share it....CCC: (a few comments about the actual content of the article)DDD: I guess Xiaonei is having problems recently.
Anything with numbers seems to run into problems.AAA: Anything with certain numbers runs into problems around this time of year....EEE: I'm sure this maintenance is perfectly normal, as it is for all other Chinese websites right now.
(sarcasm)BBB: There is no spoon~~!
(this in English)FFF: Wow, nice word choice guys.Bad translation, there was a good pun or two in there I couldn't figure out how to translate.
In any case, they're masters at not using any words censors would find suspicious.
But they're all at least aware of it, even if its a minor annoyance.And it will probably remain just that: A minor annoyance for most, perhaps making them remember, but they don't care that much.
The ones that really want to protest will just use text messages or IM anyway, and even they hardcore democracy types know where the line is drawn.
For the most part, it seems really unnecessary.
If they really wanted to organize protests, they'd have been organized long before the 3 days before the anniversary, and then use texting or cells or IM to expand.
I doubt there will be any protests to speak of anyway- the Chinese sort of have a silent agreement here, they know where to draw the line.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28205525</id>
	<title>Re:Parallels to the US</title>
	<author>fotoflo</author>
	<datestamp>1244047860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reminder:

San Fran

<a href="http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/04/70619" title="wired.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/04/70619</a> [wired.com]

Libya <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/13/libya\_falls\_off\_net/" title="theregister.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/13/libya\_falls\_off\_net/</a> [theregister.co.uk]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminder : San Fran http : //www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/04/70619 [ wired.com ] Libya http : //www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/13/libya \ _falls \ _off \ _net/ [ theregister.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminder:

San Fran

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/04/70619 [wired.com]

Libya http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/13/libya\_falls\_off\_net/ [theregister.co.uk]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28231193</id>
	<title>Re:I, for one, welcome our idiocy-blocking overlor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244282520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>After blocking several prominent social websites like <b>Twitter</b> </p></div><p> <b>Thank</b> you!</p><p>Freedom is <i>so</i> overrated.</p></div><p>Indeed. And that spreadsheet should soon go to maintenance mode. It's out of date after all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>After blocking several prominent social websites like Twitter Thank you ! Freedom is so overrated.Indeed .
And that spreadsheet should soon go to maintenance mode .
It 's out of date after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After blocking several prominent social websites like Twitter  Thank you!Freedom is so overrated.Indeed.
And that spreadsheet should soon go to maintenance mode.
It's out of date after all.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_2053208.28203785</id>
	<title>stop doing business</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244033340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the rest of the world stops doing business with China (who slaughter their own people and suppress political freedom) and the USA (who slaughters other nations' people and kills and tortures civilians) then these nations will wither and be unable to continue their courses of action.</p><p>It is up to the world to cut them off until their behaviour has become more acceptable by international norms.  But I suppose the allure of those cheap Chinese goods and Hollywood films is worth more than people's lives, so that will never happen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the rest of the world stops doing business with China ( who slaughter their own people and suppress political freedom ) and the USA ( who slaughters other nations ' people and kills and tortures civilians ) then these nations will wither and be unable to continue their courses of action.It is up to the world to cut them off until their behaviour has become more acceptable by international norms .
But I suppose the allure of those cheap Chinese goods and Hollywood films is worth more than people 's lives , so that will never happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the rest of the world stops doing business with China (who slaughter their own people and suppress political freedom) and the USA (who slaughters other nations' people and kills and tortures civilians) then these nations will wither and be unable to continue their courses of action.It is up to the world to cut them off until their behaviour has become more acceptable by international norms.
But I suppose the allure of those cheap Chinese goods and Hollywood films is worth more than people's lives, so that will never happen.</sentencetext>
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