<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_03_006206</id>
	<title>Apple Bans RSS Reader Due To Bad Word In Feed Link</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1244051820000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.templetons.com/brad" rel="nofollow">btempleton</a> writes <i>"It all started when I prepared yet another <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/">Downfall</a> subtitle parody. In this one, <a href="http://ideas.4brad.com/hitler-tries-dmca-takedown">Hitler is the studio head, upset at all the Downfall parodies</a>, and he wants to do DMCA takedowns on them all. (If you're a DMCA/DRM fighting Slashdotter, you'll like it.) The EFF, which I chair, <a href="http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/05/when-fair-use-fairly">blogged it on Deeplinks</a>, and hilarity ensued. That weekend, Exact Magic, an iPhone developer, had submitted a special RSS reader app to display EFF news on the iPhone. Apple's iPhone app store evaluators looked at the RSS reader, read the feed it pointed to, and then played the <a href="http://ideas.4brad.com/hitler-tries-dmca-takedown">linked-to video</a>. They saw the F-word flash in the subtitles of the video, and then <a href="http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/06/oh-come-apple-reject">rejected the RSS-reading tool from the App Store</a>. We're up to several levels of meta here &mdash; Apple has banned an app over a parody about banning, and is now parodying itself.  Bonus: TFA also has the story of just how hard it is to be fully legal in obtaining the famous clip for parody."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>btempleton writes " It all started when I prepared yet another Downfall subtitle parody .
In this one , Hitler is the studio head , upset at all the Downfall parodies , and he wants to do DMCA takedowns on them all .
( If you 're a DMCA/DRM fighting Slashdotter , you 'll like it .
) The EFF , which I chair , blogged it on Deeplinks , and hilarity ensued .
That weekend , Exact Magic , an iPhone developer , had submitted a special RSS reader app to display EFF news on the iPhone .
Apple 's iPhone app store evaluators looked at the RSS reader , read the feed it pointed to , and then played the linked-to video .
They saw the F-word flash in the subtitles of the video , and then rejected the RSS-reading tool from the App Store .
We 're up to several levels of meta here    Apple has banned an app over a parody about banning , and is now parodying itself .
Bonus : TFA also has the story of just how hard it is to be fully legal in obtaining the famous clip for parody .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>btempleton writes "It all started when I prepared yet another Downfall subtitle parody.
In this one, Hitler is the studio head, upset at all the Downfall parodies, and he wants to do DMCA takedowns on them all.
(If you're a DMCA/DRM fighting Slashdotter, you'll like it.
) The EFF, which I chair, blogged it on Deeplinks, and hilarity ensued.
That weekend, Exact Magic, an iPhone developer, had submitted a special RSS reader app to display EFF news on the iPhone.
Apple's iPhone app store evaluators looked at the RSS reader, read the feed it pointed to, and then played the linked-to video.
They saw the F-word flash in the subtitles of the video, and then rejected the RSS-reading tool from the App Store.
We're up to several levels of meta here — Apple has banned an app over a parody about banning, and is now parodying itself.
Bonus: TFA also has the story of just how hard it is to be fully legal in obtaining the famous clip for parody.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192889</id>
	<title>And here we go again.</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1244062680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>loop\_point:</b> <br>
Apple rejects an app for stupid reasons.  <br>
This will spread across the web.  <br>
Apple will looks bad.  <br>
Apple will "reconsider" and accept the app.<br>
Lots of people will completely miss the point and think it's all okay.<br>
Apple will then reject another app for stupid reasons.  <br>
goto loop\_point;</htmltext>
<tokenext>loop \ _point : Apple rejects an app for stupid reasons .
This will spread across the web .
Apple will looks bad .
Apple will " reconsider " and accept the app .
Lots of people will completely miss the point and think it 's all okay .
Apple will then reject another app for stupid reasons .
goto loop \ _point ;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>loop\_point: 
Apple rejects an app for stupid reasons.
This will spread across the web.
Apple will looks bad.
Apple will "reconsider" and accept the app.
Lots of people will completely miss the point and think it's all okay.
Apple will then reject another app for stupid reasons.
goto loop\_point;</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192347</id>
	<title>Subtle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243969920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"It all started when I prepared yet another Downfall subtitle parody. In this one, Hitler is the studio head, upset at all the Downfall parodies, and he wants to do DMCA takedowns on them all. (If you're a DMCA/DRM fighting Slashdotter, you'll like it.)"</p><p>That's some mighty subtle advertising right there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It all started when I prepared yet another Downfall subtitle parody .
In this one , Hitler is the studio head , upset at all the Downfall parodies , and he wants to do DMCA takedowns on them all .
( If you 're a DMCA/DRM fighting Slashdotter , you 'll like it .
) " That 's some mighty subtle advertising right there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It all started when I prepared yet another Downfall subtitle parody.
In this one, Hitler is the studio head, upset at all the Downfall parodies, and he wants to do DMCA takedowns on them all.
(If you're a DMCA/DRM fighting Slashdotter, you'll like it.
)"That's some mighty subtle advertising right there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192529</id>
	<title>The problem isn't necessarily with Apple itself...</title>
	<author>ToasterOven</author>
	<datestamp>1243971720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... but with the employees who are doing the reviews.  It really seems that some of these reviewers are your "average Joe" user, and may not actually be the most computer-literate users out there.<br> <br>
Time after time, we have seen apps rejected for content that the app simply links to or obtains from the Internet, and it appears that the reviewers do not understand this... they seem to believe that the "inappropriate content" that they are obtaining is actually an inherent part of the application, and therefore reject it.<br> <br>
As has been stated before, I also think that Apple simply puts forth base guidelines for the reviewers to follow, and leaves it up to their discretionary tastes beyond that.  At some point, someone higher up at Apple needs to take accountability for this and ensure that the process is redefined, across the board.  And it would be in Apple's best interest for that to happen sooner than later, or they will soon find that other solutions will be much more attractive to developers because everyone else has their act together.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... but with the employees who are doing the reviews .
It really seems that some of these reviewers are your " average Joe " user , and may not actually be the most computer-literate users out there .
Time after time , we have seen apps rejected for content that the app simply links to or obtains from the Internet , and it appears that the reviewers do not understand this... they seem to believe that the " inappropriate content " that they are obtaining is actually an inherent part of the application , and therefore reject it .
As has been stated before , I also think that Apple simply puts forth base guidelines for the reviewers to follow , and leaves it up to their discretionary tastes beyond that .
At some point , someone higher up at Apple needs to take accountability for this and ensure that the process is redefined , across the board .
And it would be in Apple 's best interest for that to happen sooner than later , or they will soon find that other solutions will be much more attractive to developers because everyone else has their act together .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... but with the employees who are doing the reviews.
It really seems that some of these reviewers are your "average Joe" user, and may not actually be the most computer-literate users out there.
Time after time, we have seen apps rejected for content that the app simply links to or obtains from the Internet, and it appears that the reviewers do not understand this... they seem to believe that the "inappropriate content" that they are obtaining is actually an inherent part of the application, and therefore reject it.
As has been stated before, I also think that Apple simply puts forth base guidelines for the reviewers to follow, and leaves it up to their discretionary tastes beyond that.
At some point, someone higher up at Apple needs to take accountability for this and ensure that the process is redefined, across the board.
And it would be in Apple's best interest for that to happen sooner than later, or they will soon find that other solutions will be much more attractive to developers because everyone else has their act together.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192833</id>
	<title>Re:This is why</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1244061960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Of course, when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes, it will all be better. Right?</p></div><p>Apparently <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/biztech/acer-to-offer-googles-android-os-on-netbooks/2009/06/03/1243708495934.html" title="theage.com.au">it has</a> [theage.com.au], but according to The Age it isn't Linux.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes , it will all be better .
Right ? Apparently it has [ theage.com.au ] , but according to The Age it is n't Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes, it will all be better.
Right?Apparently it has [theage.com.au], but according to The Age it isn't Linux.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192321</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192427</id>
	<title>Re:Bad words?</title>
	<author>QuantumG</author>
	<datestamp>1243970700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's slightly more to it than that:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BcdY\_wSklo" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BcdY\_wSklo</a> [youtube.com]<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyNmGHpL11Q" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyNmGHpL11Q</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's slightly more to it than that : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = 1BcdY \ _wSklo [ youtube.com ] http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = yyNmGHpL11Q [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's slightly more to it than that:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BcdY\_wSklo [youtube.com]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyNmGHpL11Q [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192823</id>
	<title>Re:This is why</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244061840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just noticed the similarity of this when-we-will-have-commercial-fusion-and-everything-is-all-right and linux-on-the-desktop-comes-and-everything-is-all-right. Both have constant value of time when it will arrive (around 50 and couple of years respectively).


Could here be a some hidden natural constant?
<br> <br>
\end{bad joke}</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just noticed the similarity of this when-we-will-have-commercial-fusion-and-everything-is-all-right and linux-on-the-desktop-comes-and-everything-is-all-right .
Both have constant value of time when it will arrive ( around 50 and couple of years respectively ) .
Could here be a some hidden natural constant ?
\ end { bad joke }</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just noticed the similarity of this when-we-will-have-commercial-fusion-and-everything-is-all-right and linux-on-the-desktop-comes-and-everything-is-all-right.
Both have constant value of time when it will arrive (around 50 and couple of years respectively).
Could here be a some hidden natural constant?
\end{bad joke}</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192321</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28195907</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking as an Apple fanboi ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244044500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Literally coming on to you? Well, if that's your thing I won't fault you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Literally coming on to you ?
Well , if that 's your thing I wo n't fault you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Literally coming on to you?
Well, if that's your thing I won't fault you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192561</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28195189</id>
	<title>Re:In other news, Apple i-sunglasses</title>
	<author>tippe</author>
	<datestamp>1244041440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really?  That's an obvious rip-off of the Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses.  I can't wait until the inter-galactic lawyer hounds get wind of this...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
That 's an obvious rip-off of the Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses .
I ca n't wait until the inter-galactic lawyer hounds get wind of this.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
That's an obvious rip-off of the Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses.
I can't wait until the inter-galactic lawyer hounds get wind of this...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193067</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28201355</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244023860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've seen this too many times. Yes, we know, censorship by definition does not cover this situation exactly, but it's the closest word and it has come to mean this.</p><p>Yes, he bought the phone and agreed to it and what not. He's not denying that, but stating that he doesn't like it. Noone said they weren't aloud to 'censor' it, but that is was stupid. Yes he bought it anyway, no that does not mean he's not aloud to complain.<br>I can't believe that got a +3 insightful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've seen this too many times .
Yes , we know , censorship by definition does not cover this situation exactly , but it 's the closest word and it has come to mean this.Yes , he bought the phone and agreed to it and what not .
He 's not denying that , but stating that he does n't like it .
Noone said they were n't aloud to 'censor ' it , but that is was stupid .
Yes he bought it anyway , no that does not mean he 's not aloud to complain.I ca n't believe that got a + 3 insightful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've seen this too many times.
Yes, we know, censorship by definition does not cover this situation exactly, but it's the closest word and it has come to mean this.Yes, he bought the phone and agreed to it and what not.
He's not denying that, but stating that he doesn't like it.
Noone said they weren't aloud to 'censor' it, but that is was stupid.
Yes he bought it anyway, no that does not mean he's not aloud to complain.I can't believe that got a +3 insightful.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28197117</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192645</id>
	<title>Re:It's feeling like a trap</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244059740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Lesson I've learned?  Always buy IP-violating, unregulated, cheap Chinese knockoffs.</p></div><p>ditto</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lesson I 've learned ?
Always buy IP-violating , unregulated , cheap Chinese knockoffs.ditto</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lesson I've learned?
Always buy IP-violating, unregulated, cheap Chinese knockoffs.ditto
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192445</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28195383</id>
	<title>Re:It's feeling like a trap</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244042280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Same here.  Except I recently got an iPod Shuffle for free.  I finally got around to trying it out, apprehensively installed iTunes &amp; QuickTime so I could put stuff on it, rebooted, and...my computer wouldn't boot up.  I've managed to get it working again (mostly), and realistically, it probably wasn't Apple's fault, but I don't mind blaming them.  I'm giving the Shuffle to my nephew and sticking with my Sansa.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Same here .
Except I recently got an iPod Shuffle for free .
I finally got around to trying it out , apprehensively installed iTunes &amp; QuickTime so I could put stuff on it , rebooted , and...my computer would n't boot up .
I 've managed to get it working again ( mostly ) , and realistically , it probably was n't Apple 's fault , but I do n't mind blaming them .
I 'm giving the Shuffle to my nephew and sticking with my Sansa .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same here.
Except I recently got an iPod Shuffle for free.
I finally got around to trying it out, apprehensively installed iTunes &amp; QuickTime so I could put stuff on it, rebooted, and...my computer wouldn't boot up.
I've managed to get it working again (mostly), and realistically, it probably wasn't Apple's fault, but I don't mind blaming them.
I'm giving the Shuffle to my nephew and sticking with my Sansa.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192445</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193367</id>
	<title>Simple Solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244025600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a very simple solution to this.</p><p>First of all all accepted apps should've been doubly-reviewed.</p><p>And second of all all rejected apps should've been triply-reviewed.</p><p>Thank you Apple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a very simple solution to this.First of all all accepted apps should 've been doubly-reviewed.And second of all all rejected apps should 've been triply-reviewed.Thank you Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a very simple solution to this.First of all all accepted apps should've been doubly-reviewed.And second of all all rejected apps should've been triply-reviewed.Thank you Apple.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28197117</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1244049480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How is it censorship?  You (not you specifically, but "you the iphone purchasers" ) bought the iPhone.  You approved whatever restrictions they want to place on you by making that purchase.  You have already told them they can do whatever they want on your ^H^H^H^H their phone.  Having done this, what right do you have to complain when they actually do place restrictions?  If you didn't like it, why did you buy a phone that inherently includes these artificial limitations?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How is it censorship ?
You ( not you specifically , but " you the iphone purchasers " ) bought the iPhone .
You approved whatever restrictions they want to place on you by making that purchase .
You have already told them they can do whatever they want on your ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H their phone .
Having done this , what right do you have to complain when they actually do place restrictions ?
If you did n't like it , why did you buy a phone that inherently includes these artificial limitations ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is it censorship?
You (not you specifically, but "you the iphone purchasers" ) bought the iPhone.
You approved whatever restrictions they want to place on you by making that purchase.
You have already told them they can do whatever they want on your ^H^H^H^H their phone.
Having done this, what right do you have to complain when they actually do place restrictions?
If you didn't like it, why did you buy a phone that inherently includes these artificial limitations?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192581</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28195201</id>
	<title>Apple run by the CCP?</title>
	<author>Fuzi719</author>
	<datestamp>1244041440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apple is becoming like the CCP (that's the Chinese PRC gov't for the great uneducated), with the App Store like the Great Firewall.  Both seem to be run rather arbitrarily and reactionary.  While Apple has some nice hardware and software, their practices and the drooling fanboys completely turn me cold.  I'd rather buy something, anything, else even if it has less functionality overall.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple is becoming like the CCP ( that 's the Chinese PRC gov't for the great uneducated ) , with the App Store like the Great Firewall .
Both seem to be run rather arbitrarily and reactionary .
While Apple has some nice hardware and software , their practices and the drooling fanboys completely turn me cold .
I 'd rather buy something , anything , else even if it has less functionality overall .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple is becoming like the CCP (that's the Chinese PRC gov't for the great uneducated), with the App Store like the Great Firewall.
Both seem to be run rather arbitrarily and reactionary.
While Apple has some nice hardware and software, their practices and the drooling fanboys completely turn me cold.
I'd rather buy something, anything, else even if it has less functionality overall.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28198137</id>
	<title>So I'm missing out on what?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244053380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So Apple banned an RSS reader that only reads one feed.</p><p>Truly, the world is ending.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Apple banned an RSS reader that only reads one feed.Truly , the world is ending .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Apple banned an RSS reader that only reads one feed.Truly, the world is ending.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193673</id>
	<title>Re:It's feeling like a trap</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244030280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And the award for most obvious conclusion goes to...<br> <br>You want to know the secret? It feels like a trap because it is a fucking trap. If interoperability was a woman Steve Jobs would have kicked her in the stomach, spat her in the face, punched her unconscious and raped her. This is me underexaggerating, no joke at all. And this is the business you support? Bunch of fucking self hating idiots, Apple fanboys.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And the award for most obvious conclusion goes to... You want to know the secret ?
It feels like a trap because it is a fucking trap .
If interoperability was a woman Steve Jobs would have kicked her in the stomach , spat her in the face , punched her unconscious and raped her .
This is me underexaggerating , no joke at all .
And this is the business you support ?
Bunch of fucking self hating idiots , Apple fanboys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the award for most obvious conclusion goes to... You want to know the secret?
It feels like a trap because it is a fucking trap.
If interoperability was a woman Steve Jobs would have kicked her in the stomach, spat her in the face, punched her unconscious and raped her.
This is me underexaggerating, no joke at all.
And this is the business you support?
Bunch of fucking self hating idiots, Apple fanboys.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192445</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28204677</id>
	<title>Re:This is why</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1244039820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple. Microsoft is bad enough, but Apple is a control-freak of a company<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/</p></div> </blockquote><p>

I agree, Microsoft is evil as a side effect of being greedy where as Apple is evil because it wants to be. I have no doubt MS would embrace open source and give kittens to everyone if it meant more profit for MS.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple .
Microsoft is bad enough , but Apple is a control-freak of a company : / I agree , Microsoft is evil as a side effect of being greedy where as Apple is evil because it wants to be .
I have no doubt MS would embrace open source and give kittens to everyone if it meant more profit for MS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple.
Microsoft is bad enough, but Apple is a control-freak of a company :/ 

I agree, Microsoft is evil as a side effect of being greedy where as Apple is evil because it wants to be.
I have no doubt MS would embrace open source and give kittens to everyone if it meant more profit for MS.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192321</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192319</id>
	<title>Speaking as an Apple fanboi ...</title>
	<author>Daniel Dvorkin</author>
	<datestamp>1243969620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... I can think of two possibilities here.</p><p>1.  Someone high up in the App Store hierarchy is completely batshit insane.  They're a fundie wacko, or they're deathly afraid of the Think Of The Chiiildren wackos, or something like that.  I really just can't believe that the orders to ban <b>anything that can get dirty words from anywhere on the internet</b> came down from upper management; they can't be that ignorant.  So it's someone on a personal crusade who has just enough pull to make it work.</p><p>2.  Apple basically wants to own every internet-enabled app on the iPhone, and they're using these dumb excuses to get rid of any competition.  Sooner or later, they think, everything you do on the iPhone that isn't strictly local will go through an app bearing the Apple logo.</p><p>Either way, it's a dumb move.  I'm one of those irritating smug Mac users everyone loves to whine about.  The last five computers I've bought have been Macs, and the next five probably will be as well.  Whenever anyone asks me about what to do with their malware-ridden PCs, I say, "get a Mac."  And I was seriously considering getting an iPhone to go with my iPod and iEverythingElse<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but I'm not going to even think about it until Apple fixes whatever the hell is going on with the App Store.  I really doubt I'm the only one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... I can think of two possibilities here.1 .
Someone high up in the App Store hierarchy is completely batshit insane .
They 're a fundie wacko , or they 're deathly afraid of the Think Of The Chiiildren wackos , or something like that .
I really just ca n't believe that the orders to ban anything that can get dirty words from anywhere on the internet came down from upper management ; they ca n't be that ignorant .
So it 's someone on a personal crusade who has just enough pull to make it work.2 .
Apple basically wants to own every internet-enabled app on the iPhone , and they 're using these dumb excuses to get rid of any competition .
Sooner or later , they think , everything you do on the iPhone that is n't strictly local will go through an app bearing the Apple logo.Either way , it 's a dumb move .
I 'm one of those irritating smug Mac users everyone loves to whine about .
The last five computers I 've bought have been Macs , and the next five probably will be as well .
Whenever anyone asks me about what to do with their malware-ridden PCs , I say , " get a Mac .
" And I was seriously considering getting an iPhone to go with my iPod and iEverythingElse ... but I 'm not going to even think about it until Apple fixes whatever the hell is going on with the App Store .
I really doubt I 'm the only one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... I can think of two possibilities here.1.
Someone high up in the App Store hierarchy is completely batshit insane.
They're a fundie wacko, or they're deathly afraid of the Think Of The Chiiildren wackos, or something like that.
I really just can't believe that the orders to ban anything that can get dirty words from anywhere on the internet came down from upper management; they can't be that ignorant.
So it's someone on a personal crusade who has just enough pull to make it work.2.
Apple basically wants to own every internet-enabled app on the iPhone, and they're using these dumb excuses to get rid of any competition.
Sooner or later, they think, everything you do on the iPhone that isn't strictly local will go through an app bearing the Apple logo.Either way, it's a dumb move.
I'm one of those irritating smug Mac users everyone loves to whine about.
The last five computers I've bought have been Macs, and the next five probably will be as well.
Whenever anyone asks me about what to do with their malware-ridden PCs, I say, "get a Mac.
"  And I was seriously considering getting an iPhone to go with my iPod and iEverythingElse ... but I'm not going to even think about it until Apple fixes whatever the hell is going on with the App Store.
I really doubt I'm the only one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192893</id>
	<title>Apple Hummmmm  yet you wil fade to grey</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244062740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of these days that bunch of over self important irritants will just fade to grey and then black then obscurity the final demise and the sooner it happens the better for everyone</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of these days that bunch of over self important irritants will just fade to grey and then black then obscurity the final demise and the sooner it happens the better for everyone</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of these days that bunch of over self important irritants will just fade to grey and then black then obscurity the final demise and the sooner it happens the better for everyone</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192377</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243970280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>apple is acting like a bunch of jungle bunnies</htmltext>
<tokenext>apple is acting like a bunch of jungle bunnies</tokentext>
<sentencetext>apple is acting like a bunch of jungle bunnies</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192315</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194133</id>
	<title>Submission process</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244035560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPhone app submission process:<br>1. Submit your app for initial review<br>2. Initial rejection<br>3. Post an article about rejection of app on Slashdot<br>4. Have the app accepted</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPhone app submission process : 1 .
Submit your app for initial review2 .
Initial rejection3 .
Post an article about rejection of app on Slashdot4 .
Have the app accepted</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPhone app submission process:1.
Submit your app for initial review2.
Initial rejection3.
Post an article about rejection of app on Slashdot4.
Have the app accepted</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192911</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking as an Apple fanboi ...</title>
	<author>Weezul</author>
	<datestamp>1244019720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You see, the App Store is the whole problem.  Indeed, the App Store would be a violation of anti-trust law if Apple had any market share.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You see , the App Store is the whole problem .
Indeed , the App Store would be a violation of anti-trust law if Apple had any market share .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You see, the App Store is the whole problem.
Indeed, the App Store would be a violation of anti-trust law if Apple had any market share.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192319</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28199847</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>that IT girl</author>
	<datestamp>1244061360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Erm... If you're upset at the way Apple is treating their customers, I don't think running to Sony is running in the right direction.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Erm... If you 're upset at the way Apple is treating their customers , I do n't think running to Sony is running in the right direction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Erm... If you're upset at the way Apple is treating their customers, I don't think running to Sony is running in the right direction.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192315</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193177</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1244023200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'm an Apple fanboy and even I'm sick of this.</i></p><p>So, as a self-confessed fanboy can you please tell me what exactly would make you give up a company that's behaving so badly? How far do they have to go? I mean would Steve Jobs coming up to you in his turtleneck and whacking you on the head with a rubber mallet be enough? Do they have to try to assassinate a family member? Try to cut off your willie? What exactly? where is the line?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm an Apple fanboy and even I 'm sick of this.So , as a self-confessed fanboy can you please tell me what exactly would make you give up a company that 's behaving so badly ?
How far do they have to go ?
I mean would Steve Jobs coming up to you in his turtleneck and whacking you on the head with a rubber mallet be enough ?
Do they have to try to assassinate a family member ?
Try to cut off your willie ?
What exactly ?
where is the line ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm an Apple fanboy and even I'm sick of this.So, as a self-confessed fanboy can you please tell me what exactly would make you give up a company that's behaving so badly?
How far do they have to go?
I mean would Steve Jobs coming up to you in his turtleneck and whacking you on the head with a rubber mallet be enough?
Do they have to try to assassinate a family member?
Try to cut off your willie?
What exactly?
where is the line?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192315</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192901</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>siloko</author>
	<datestamp>1244019600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If they're not careful, pretty soon the PSP Go App Store is going to be the one making all the money.</p></div><p>I don't see this happening any time soon. Like any corporation in a position of power they can treat customers with impunity. They have control over the distribution channels for the vast majority of iPhones and can thus abuse that position by enforcing draconian/imbecilic acceptance criteria. They makes the rules and if you don't want to play don't buy Apple products, this is the only way to erode their power - impact their bottom line.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they 're not careful , pretty soon the PSP Go App Store is going to be the one making all the money.I do n't see this happening any time soon .
Like any corporation in a position of power they can treat customers with impunity .
They have control over the distribution channels for the vast majority of iPhones and can thus abuse that position by enforcing draconian/imbecilic acceptance criteria .
They makes the rules and if you do n't want to play do n't buy Apple products , this is the only way to erode their power - impact their bottom line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they're not careful, pretty soon the PSP Go App Store is going to be the one making all the money.I don't see this happening any time soon.
Like any corporation in a position of power they can treat customers with impunity.
They have control over the distribution channels for the vast majority of iPhones and can thus abuse that position by enforcing draconian/imbecilic acceptance criteria.
They makes the rules and if you don't want to play don't buy Apple products, this is the only way to erode their power - impact their bottom line.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192315</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192779</id>
	<title>Re:It's feeling like a trap</title>
	<author>Rakshasa Taisab</author>
	<datestamp>1244061240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, I much prefer my Zune!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I much prefer my Zune !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I much prefer my Zune!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192445</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194221</id>
	<title>Re:This is why</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244036280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Of course, when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes, it will all be better. Right?</p></div><p>In theory, Linux should let you (or other competent programmers with a similar wants) fork it should things go awry.  However, As TiVo demonstrated there is a loophole in the GPL2 which can keep Linux an abused and locked-down piece of software.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes , it will all be better .
Right ? In theory , Linux should let you ( or other competent programmers with a similar wants ) fork it should things go awry .
However , As TiVo demonstrated there is a loophole in the GPL2 which can keep Linux an abused and locked-down piece of software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes, it will all be better.
Right?In theory, Linux should let you (or other competent programmers with a similar wants) fork it should things go awry.
However, As TiVo demonstrated there is a loophole in the GPL2 which can keep Linux an abused and locked-down piece of software.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192321</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193265</id>
	<title>What a terrible business model</title>
	<author>FranTaylor</author>
	<datestamp>1244024460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple is pushing this as a way for companies to invest in some software effort and gain some practical results, but how can you expect a company to commit resources to developing an iPhone app if it can be denied for such petty and silly reasons?   The best-laid plans of an entire corporation can be wrecked by the petty actions of someone outside of their control?  Really not a sound business strategy.  Why not just develop for the Google phone where you don't need permission or clearance from anyone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple is pushing this as a way for companies to invest in some software effort and gain some practical results , but how can you expect a company to commit resources to developing an iPhone app if it can be denied for such petty and silly reasons ?
The best-laid plans of an entire corporation can be wrecked by the petty actions of someone outside of their control ?
Really not a sound business strategy .
Why not just develop for the Google phone where you do n't need permission or clearance from anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple is pushing this as a way for companies to invest in some software effort and gain some practical results, but how can you expect a company to commit resources to developing an iPhone app if it can be denied for such petty and silly reasons?
The best-laid plans of an entire corporation can be wrecked by the petty actions of someone outside of their control?
Really not a sound business strategy.
Why not just develop for the Google phone where you don't need permission or clearance from anyone?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192561</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking as an Apple fanboi ...</title>
	<author>Max Littlemore</author>
	<datestamp>1243972140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't mind if you buy Macs, hey that's your problem if you want to spend 1.5x what the machine is worth for a badge, and I run Linux so the malware isn't a problem. No, the reason I whine about mac fanbois is that you're always coming on to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't mind if you buy Macs , hey that 's your problem if you want to spend 1.5x what the machine is worth for a badge , and I run Linux so the malware is n't a problem .
No , the reason I whine about mac fanbois is that you 're always coming on to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't mind if you buy Macs, hey that's your problem if you want to spend 1.5x what the machine is worth for a badge, and I run Linux so the malware isn't a problem.
No, the reason I whine about mac fanbois is that you're always coming on to me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192319</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194235</id>
	<title>A proposal to App devs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244036400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>As many have noted above the arbitrary nature of the App acceptance policy is growing cumbersome at best. I would suggest that every app developer add an easter egg which contains something objectionable to Apple's sensibilities. Maybe then the number of Apps being rejected would get high enough for them to change their methods to actually address this problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As many have noted above the arbitrary nature of the App acceptance policy is growing cumbersome at best .
I would suggest that every app developer add an easter egg which contains something objectionable to Apple 's sensibilities .
Maybe then the number of Apps being rejected would get high enough for them to change their methods to actually address this problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As many have noted above the arbitrary nature of the App acceptance policy is growing cumbersome at best.
I would suggest that every app developer add an easter egg which contains something objectionable to Apple's sensibilities.
Maybe then the number of Apps being rejected would get high enough for them to change their methods to actually address this problem.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28196945</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1244048820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm an Apple fanboy and even I'm sick of this.</p></div><p>Every time someone buys an iPhone, they are telling Apple that they are OK with the stranglehold Apple has on the platform.   The worst part is, most of them don't realize it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm an Apple fanboy and even I 'm sick of this.Every time someone buys an iPhone , they are telling Apple that they are OK with the stranglehold Apple has on the platform .
The worst part is , most of them do n't realize it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm an Apple fanboy and even I'm sick of this.Every time someone buys an iPhone, they are telling Apple that they are OK with the stranglehold Apple has on the platform.
The worst part is, most of them don't realize it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192315</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28198847</id>
	<title>Hey Have we not learned how to learn?</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1244056500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ya know it's not the first time they (Apple) have done this.  SO it would seem that if you are gonna submit a feed reader to Apple, you would point it at a feed that has not profanity in it.  It's a configurable parameter after all.<br> <br>
This is not news it's stupidity admitted in public.  I'd be embarrassed to admit publicly I did something this stupid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ya know it 's not the first time they ( Apple ) have done this .
SO it would seem that if you are gon na submit a feed reader to Apple , you would point it at a feed that has not profanity in it .
It 's a configurable parameter after all .
This is not news it 's stupidity admitted in public .
I 'd be embarrassed to admit publicly I did something this stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ya know it's not the first time they (Apple) have done this.
SO it would seem that if you are gonna submit a feed reader to Apple, you would point it at a feed that has not profanity in it.
It's a configurable parameter after all.
This is not news it's stupidity admitted in public.
I'd be embarrassed to admit publicly I did something this stupid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192745</id>
	<title>Re:This is why</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244060940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>FYI - Agnosticism is the lack of <i>presumptuousness</i>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>FYI - Agnosticism is the lack of presumptuousness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FYI - Agnosticism is the lack of presumptuousness.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192321</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192453</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking as an Apple fanboi ...</title>
	<author>fractoid</author>
	<datestamp>1243970880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd say that in terms of (1), the reason is more along the line of being scared that some parent will buy their kid an iPhone and then sue when the kid looks up porn. Honestly, though, I think you're onto something with (2). It really annoys me, because (even as a diehard PC user who converted to Linux two years ago, Mac evangelists annoy me nearly as much as evangelical Christian fundies) the iPhone is a damn sexy piece of hardware. Problem is, I don't want to buy one if I'm not going to be able to run whatever I want on it without hacking it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say that in terms of ( 1 ) , the reason is more along the line of being scared that some parent will buy their kid an iPhone and then sue when the kid looks up porn .
Honestly , though , I think you 're onto something with ( 2 ) .
It really annoys me , because ( even as a diehard PC user who converted to Linux two years ago , Mac evangelists annoy me nearly as much as evangelical Christian fundies ) the iPhone is a damn sexy piece of hardware .
Problem is , I do n't want to buy one if I 'm not going to be able to run whatever I want on it without hacking it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say that in terms of (1), the reason is more along the line of being scared that some parent will buy their kid an iPhone and then sue when the kid looks up porn.
Honestly, though, I think you're onto something with (2).
It really annoys me, because (even as a diehard PC user who converted to Linux two years ago, Mac evangelists annoy me nearly as much as evangelical Christian fundies) the iPhone is a damn sexy piece of hardware.
Problem is, I don't want to buy one if I'm not going to be able to run whatever I want on it without hacking it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192319</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192535</id>
	<title>Re:Bad words?</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1243971780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Who cares if someone says/hears a swear word, really? It surely doesn't hurt anyone, unless they've been trained to be offended by them.</i> <br> <br>

Well, a lot of people HAVE been trained to be offended by them.<br> <br>

<i>It's time to realize that swearing is only "bad" due to religious baggage, nothing else.</i> <br> <br>

True, although I'd say it's cultural baggage that was influenced by religion.  The crucial point is that swearing is also only "good" due to that baggage.  If nobody cared about a particular swear word, it would soon fall out of favor for something that would be more offensive.<br> <br>

In other words, if there was no taboo against saying 'fuck', there would be no reason for Hitler to be saying 'fuck' in the first place.  (Except maybe to his dear wife.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares if someone says/hears a swear word , really ?
It surely does n't hurt anyone , unless they 've been trained to be offended by them .
Well , a lot of people HAVE been trained to be offended by them .
It 's time to realize that swearing is only " bad " due to religious baggage , nothing else .
True , although I 'd say it 's cultural baggage that was influenced by religion .
The crucial point is that swearing is also only " good " due to that baggage .
If nobody cared about a particular swear word , it would soon fall out of favor for something that would be more offensive .
In other words , if there was no taboo against saying 'fuck ' , there would be no reason for Hitler to be saying 'fuck ' in the first place .
( Except maybe to his dear wife .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares if someone says/hears a swear word, really?
It surely doesn't hurt anyone, unless they've been trained to be offended by them.
Well, a lot of people HAVE been trained to be offended by them.
It's time to realize that swearing is only "bad" due to religious baggage, nothing else.
True, although I'd say it's cultural baggage that was influenced by religion.
The crucial point is that swearing is also only "good" due to that baggage.
If nobody cared about a particular swear word, it would soon fall out of favor for something that would be more offensive.
In other words, if there was no taboo against saying 'fuck', there would be no reason for Hitler to be saying 'fuck' in the first place.
(Except maybe to his dear wife.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193403</id>
	<title>Re:It's feeling like a trap</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244026080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I managed to avoid the whole Apple experience; never bought an iPod, never bought a song from iTunes, never had any desire to get an iPhone. I'm feeling a bit relieved. The whole thing feels like a trap. If I had a thousand bucks tied up in all this interconnected web of apps, platforms, and media, with it's seemingly ever-constricting chains, I'd be pretty irritated.</p></div><p>Unlike you, I use Apple products, I have previously owned one iPod, I currently own an iPhone, and I have purchased songs, movies, TV shows and apps off iTunes. I also use Linux (mostly on my routers, although I'll occasionally use a USB Linux distro for some purpose), and I've contributed code to a few GPL projects.</p><p>I think your position is totally reasonable. I completely understand why someone would want a more open device than the iPhone. However, describing the situation as "ever-constricting chains" is not merely wrong, but the complete opposite of the truth. Nearly every major policy change Apple has made regarding iTunes, the iPhone, or the App Store, has been to remove restrictions that were previously in place. Let me give you some examples:</p><p>At first, Apple didn't sell any songs online. Then they created the iTunes store, and you could buy DRM-encumbered music from them. Then they started selling DRM-free files at a slightly higher price, so you could buy either DRM-encumbered or DRM-free songs from them. Now they only sell DRM-free songs (albeit at a slightly higher average price point than the original DRM-encumbered songs).</p><p>Or consider the iPhone App Store: At first, there were no native third-party iPhone apps (except web apps, which obviously aren't the same). Then with iPhone OS 2, Apple created the App Store, which allowed third party developers to sell apps after a ludicrous approval process. Since then, they've cleaned up the approval process somewhat, although there are still plenty of cock-ups like this one. And now in iPhone OS 3 (scheduled for release in July), they've announced that they will loosen the content restrictions to allow adult-only content.</p><p>The only exception I can think of is that Apple crippled the Bluetooth stack in between iPhone OS versions 1 and 2, but they've announced that they will un-cripple Bluetooth in version 3, so I guess this is ultimately moot. (The other exception, I suppose, would be the internal battery in the new Macbooks, but that isn't actually a very good example. The new battery is still replaceable with about the same effort as a hard drive, and moving the battery inside allows them to include a sturdier case and larger battery. The only real "restriction" is that Apple used non-standard screws to hold down the battery.)</p></div>
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<tokenext>I managed to avoid the whole Apple experience ; never bought an iPod , never bought a song from iTunes , never had any desire to get an iPhone .
I 'm feeling a bit relieved .
The whole thing feels like a trap .
If I had a thousand bucks tied up in all this interconnected web of apps , platforms , and media , with it 's seemingly ever-constricting chains , I 'd be pretty irritated.Unlike you , I use Apple products , I have previously owned one iPod , I currently own an iPhone , and I have purchased songs , movies , TV shows and apps off iTunes .
I also use Linux ( mostly on my routers , although I 'll occasionally use a USB Linux distro for some purpose ) , and I 've contributed code to a few GPL projects.I think your position is totally reasonable .
I completely understand why someone would want a more open device than the iPhone .
However , describing the situation as " ever-constricting chains " is not merely wrong , but the complete opposite of the truth .
Nearly every major policy change Apple has made regarding iTunes , the iPhone , or the App Store , has been to remove restrictions that were previously in place .
Let me give you some examples : At first , Apple did n't sell any songs online .
Then they created the iTunes store , and you could buy DRM-encumbered music from them .
Then they started selling DRM-free files at a slightly higher price , so you could buy either DRM-encumbered or DRM-free songs from them .
Now they only sell DRM-free songs ( albeit at a slightly higher average price point than the original DRM-encumbered songs ) .Or consider the iPhone App Store : At first , there were no native third-party iPhone apps ( except web apps , which obviously are n't the same ) .
Then with iPhone OS 2 , Apple created the App Store , which allowed third party developers to sell apps after a ludicrous approval process .
Since then , they 've cleaned up the approval process somewhat , although there are still plenty of cock-ups like this one .
And now in iPhone OS 3 ( scheduled for release in July ) , they 've announced that they will loosen the content restrictions to allow adult-only content.The only exception I can think of is that Apple crippled the Bluetooth stack in between iPhone OS versions 1 and 2 , but they 've announced that they will un-cripple Bluetooth in version 3 , so I guess this is ultimately moot .
( The other exception , I suppose , would be the internal battery in the new Macbooks , but that is n't actually a very good example .
The new battery is still replaceable with about the same effort as a hard drive , and moving the battery inside allows them to include a sturdier case and larger battery .
The only real " restriction " is that Apple used non-standard screws to hold down the battery .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I managed to avoid the whole Apple experience; never bought an iPod, never bought a song from iTunes, never had any desire to get an iPhone.
I'm feeling a bit relieved.
The whole thing feels like a trap.
If I had a thousand bucks tied up in all this interconnected web of apps, platforms, and media, with it's seemingly ever-constricting chains, I'd be pretty irritated.Unlike you, I use Apple products, I have previously owned one iPod, I currently own an iPhone, and I have purchased songs, movies, TV shows and apps off iTunes.
I also use Linux (mostly on my routers, although I'll occasionally use a USB Linux distro for some purpose), and I've contributed code to a few GPL projects.I think your position is totally reasonable.
I completely understand why someone would want a more open device than the iPhone.
However, describing the situation as "ever-constricting chains" is not merely wrong, but the complete opposite of the truth.
Nearly every major policy change Apple has made regarding iTunes, the iPhone, or the App Store, has been to remove restrictions that were previously in place.
Let me give you some examples:At first, Apple didn't sell any songs online.
Then they created the iTunes store, and you could buy DRM-encumbered music from them.
Then they started selling DRM-free files at a slightly higher price, so you could buy either DRM-encumbered or DRM-free songs from them.
Now they only sell DRM-free songs (albeit at a slightly higher average price point than the original DRM-encumbered songs).Or consider the iPhone App Store: At first, there were no native third-party iPhone apps (except web apps, which obviously aren't the same).
Then with iPhone OS 2, Apple created the App Store, which allowed third party developers to sell apps after a ludicrous approval process.
Since then, they've cleaned up the approval process somewhat, although there are still plenty of cock-ups like this one.
And now in iPhone OS 3 (scheduled for release in July), they've announced that they will loosen the content restrictions to allow adult-only content.The only exception I can think of is that Apple crippled the Bluetooth stack in between iPhone OS versions 1 and 2, but they've announced that they will un-cripple Bluetooth in version 3, so I guess this is ultimately moot.
(The other exception, I suppose, would be the internal battery in the new Macbooks, but that isn't actually a very good example.
The new battery is still replaceable with about the same effort as a hard drive, and moving the battery inside allows them to include a sturdier case and larger battery.
The only real "restriction" is that Apple used non-standard screws to hold down the battery.
)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192525</id>
	<title>Communists</title>
	<author>Jerrry</author>
	<datestamp>1243971660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"We might as well all become communists... Like Stallman!"</p><p>ROFLMAO!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" We might as well all become communists... Like Stallman !
" ROFLMAO !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We might as well all become communists... Like Stallman!
"ROFLMAO!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28195725</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>lagomorpha2</author>
	<datestamp>1244043720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm an Apple fanboy and even I'm sick of this.</p></div><p>I realize this is sort of like asking a Catholic to stop going to mass or asking a Muslim to stop blowing things up but have you ever considered that Apple products on the whole are designed with malice toward the consumer?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm an Apple fanboy and even I 'm sick of this.I realize this is sort of like asking a Catholic to stop going to mass or asking a Muslim to stop blowing things up but have you ever considered that Apple products on the whole are designed with malice toward the consumer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm an Apple fanboy and even I'm sick of this.I realize this is sort of like asking a Catholic to stop going to mass or asking a Muslim to stop blowing things up but have you ever considered that Apple products on the whole are designed with malice toward the consumer?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192423</id>
	<title>Hypocritical Apple?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243970640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't iTunes sell songs that have cuss words in them?</p><p>Seems a little hypocritical.  Apple will sell songs with cuss words for money, but won't let free apps with cuss words be put on their app store?  (I am assuming the RSS feed app was free)</p><p>note: I am not an iPhone user, I don't know how all that works, just guessing here</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't iTunes sell songs that have cuss words in them ? Seems a little hypocritical .
Apple will sell songs with cuss words for money , but wo n't let free apps with cuss words be put on their app store ?
( I am assuming the RSS feed app was free ) note : I am not an iPhone user , I do n't know how all that works , just guessing here</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't iTunes sell songs that have cuss words in them?Seems a little hypocritical.
Apple will sell songs with cuss words for money, but won't let free apps with cuss words be put on their app store?
(I am assuming the RSS feed app was free)note: I am not an iPhone user, I don't know how all that works, just guessing here</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194289</id>
	<title>Diary of an App Store Reviewer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244036940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think this is appropriate.</p><p><a href="http://daringfireball.net/2009/05/diary\_of\_an\_app\_store\_reviewer" title="daringfireball.net" rel="nofollow">http://daringfireball.net/2009/05/diary\_of\_an\_app\_store\_reviewer</a> [daringfireball.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this is appropriate.http : //daringfireball.net/2009/05/diary \ _of \ _an \ _app \ _store \ _reviewer [ daringfireball.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this is appropriate.http://daringfireball.net/2009/05/diary\_of\_an\_app\_store\_reviewer [daringfireball.net]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193287</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking as an Apple fanboi ...</title>
	<author>amRadioHed</author>
	<datestamp>1244024640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you're right, but still that seems pretty damn stupid considering that the same parent can buy their kid an iMac which doesn't have any of these restrictions on what can be installed. What makes the iPhone so different from the iMac? I can't say I see it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 're right , but still that seems pretty damn stupid considering that the same parent can buy their kid an iMac which does n't have any of these restrictions on what can be installed .
What makes the iPhone so different from the iMac ?
I ca n't say I see it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you're right, but still that seems pretty damn stupid considering that the same parent can buy their kid an iMac which doesn't have any of these restrictions on what can be installed.
What makes the iPhone so different from the iMac?
I can't say I see it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194233</id>
	<title>Re:This is why</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1244036400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given that we've already seen Android phones hacked to run Debian alongside Android, enabling the installation and operation of essentially arbitrary programs, Tivos hacked to have larger disks and to eliminate other restrictions, Linksys (and most everyone else's) routers reinstalled to have vastly more functionality and more correct operation, and of course the ability to turn most personal computers into a Free/free-softwared workstation powerhouse with the literally dozens to hundreds of Linux distributions out there... yes, Linux is different. It's not Linux-on-the-desktop, it's Linux-<em>everywhere</em>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that we 've already seen Android phones hacked to run Debian alongside Android , enabling the installation and operation of essentially arbitrary programs , Tivos hacked to have larger disks and to eliminate other restrictions , Linksys ( and most everyone else 's ) routers reinstalled to have vastly more functionality and more correct operation , and of course the ability to turn most personal computers into a Free/free-softwared workstation powerhouse with the literally dozens to hundreds of Linux distributions out there... yes , Linux is different .
It 's not Linux-on-the-desktop , it 's Linux-everywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that we've already seen Android phones hacked to run Debian alongside Android, enabling the installation and operation of essentially arbitrary programs, Tivos hacked to have larger disks and to eliminate other restrictions, Linksys (and most everyone else's) routers reinstalled to have vastly more functionality and more correct operation, and of course the ability to turn most personal computers into a Free/free-softwared workstation powerhouse with the literally dozens to hundreds of Linux distributions out there... yes, Linux is different.
It's not Linux-on-the-desktop, it's Linux-everywhere.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192371</id>
	<title>Bad words?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243970160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't it about time to stop the stupidity with "bad words"?</p><p>Who cares if someone says/hears a swear word, really? It surely doesn't hurt anyone, unless they've been trained to be offended by them.</p><p>It's time to realize that swearing is only "bad" due to religious baggage, nothing else. Don't let the religions dictate what words we can and cannot use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't it about time to stop the stupidity with " bad words " ? Who cares if someone says/hears a swear word , really ?
It surely does n't hurt anyone , unless they 've been trained to be offended by them.It 's time to realize that swearing is only " bad " due to religious baggage , nothing else .
Do n't let the religions dictate what words we can and can not use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't it about time to stop the stupidity with "bad words"?Who cares if someone says/hears a swear word, really?
It surely doesn't hurt anyone, unless they've been trained to be offended by them.It's time to realize that swearing is only "bad" due to religious baggage, nothing else.
Don't let the religions dictate what words we can and cannot use.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192339</id>
	<title>Apple == Nazis</title>
	<author>delirium of disorder</author>
	<datestamp>1243969800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fuck apple!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fuck apple !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fuck apple!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192315</id>
	<title>Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>Tokerat</author>
	<datestamp>1243969560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm an Apple fanboy and even I'm sick of this.</p><p>If they're not careful, pretty soon the PSP Go App Store is going to be the one making all the money. Hey Sony, PSPhone in the works?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm an Apple fanboy and even I 'm sick of this.If they 're not careful , pretty soon the PSP Go App Store is going to be the one making all the money .
Hey Sony , PSPhone in the works ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm an Apple fanboy and even I'm sick of this.If they're not careful, pretty soon the PSP Go App Store is going to be the one making all the money.
Hey Sony, PSPhone in the works?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193067</id>
	<title>In other news, Apple i-sunglasses</title>
	<author>Kupfernigk</author>
	<datestamp>1244021580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apple introduces special i-sunglasses that go completely opaque when near a beach, in case there are any topless women around (not sold in Europe).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple introduces special i-sunglasses that go completely opaque when near a beach , in case there are any topless women around ( not sold in Europe ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple introduces special i-sunglasses that go completely opaque when near a beach, in case there are any topless women around (not sold in Europe).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194031</id>
	<title>why can't people admit, the word "fuck" exists?</title>
	<author>AlgorithMan</author>
	<datestamp>1244034780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it weren't for such news, I would believe that NOBODY in the entire u.s.a. EVER had used the word "fuck"...<br>
Making kids believe this word didn't exist seems to be the life-task for too many people there... you even feel pressured not to use it in online discussions although everyone uses it all the time in offline discussions...</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it were n't for such news , I would believe that NOBODY in the entire u.s.a. EVER had used the word " fuck " .. . Making kids believe this word did n't exist seems to be the life-task for too many people there... you even feel pressured not to use it in online discussions although everyone uses it all the time in offline discussions.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it weren't for such news, I would believe that NOBODY in the entire u.s.a. EVER had used the word "fuck"...
Making kids believe this word didn't exist seems to be the life-task for too many people there... you even feel pressured not to use it in online discussions although everyone uses it all the time in offline discussions...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194783</id>
	<title>iPhone=A garden of pure ideology?</title>
	<author>ErkDemon</author>
	<datestamp>1244039640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This idea of Apple acting as the info-police for what apps people are allowed to run on their new information gadget reminded me of something, and I've just remembered what it was:<blockquote><div><p> " Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives. <br>
We have created for the first time in all history a garden of pure ideology, where each worker may bloom, secure from the pests of any contradictory true thoughts. <br>
Our unification of thoughts is more powerful a weapon than any fleet or army on Earth. <br>
We are one people, with one will, one resolve, one cause. <br>
Our enemies shall talk themselves to death and we will bury them with their own confusion. <br>
We shall prevail! "</p></div> </blockquote><p>

It was from a rather famous advert in the 1980s, and the quote was supposed to represent an evil dictatorship that needed to be smashed so that people could be free. The company spouting this anti-totalitarian philosophy?
<br> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8" title="youtube.com">Apple</a> [youtube.com] 
<a href="http://www.hep.uiuc.edu/home/g-gollin/1984\_commercial\_dialogue.html" title="uiuc.edu">(source)</a> [uiuc.edu]
</p><p>
Times change.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This idea of Apple acting as the info-police for what apps people are allowed to run on their new information gadget reminded me of something , and I 've just remembered what it was : " Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives .
We have created for the first time in all history a garden of pure ideology , where each worker may bloom , secure from the pests of any contradictory true thoughts .
Our unification of thoughts is more powerful a weapon than any fleet or army on Earth .
We are one people , with one will , one resolve , one cause .
Our enemies shall talk themselves to death and we will bury them with their own confusion .
We shall prevail !
" It was from a rather famous advert in the 1980s , and the quote was supposed to represent an evil dictatorship that needed to be smashed so that people could be free .
The company spouting this anti-totalitarian philosophy ?
Apple [ youtube.com ] ( source ) [ uiuc.edu ] Times change .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This idea of Apple acting as the info-police for what apps people are allowed to run on their new information gadget reminded me of something, and I've just remembered what it was: " Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.
We have created for the first time in all history a garden of pure ideology, where each worker may bloom, secure from the pests of any contradictory true thoughts.
Our unification of thoughts is more powerful a weapon than any fleet or army on Earth.
We are one people, with one will, one resolve, one cause.
Our enemies shall talk themselves to death and we will bury them with their own confusion.
We shall prevail!
" 

It was from a rather famous advert in the 1980s, and the quote was supposed to represent an evil dictatorship that needed to be smashed so that people could be free.
The company spouting this anti-totalitarian philosophy?
Apple [youtube.com] 
(source) [uiuc.edu]

Times change.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192743</id>
	<title>Re:Bad words?</title>
	<author>GospelHead821</author>
	<datestamp>1244060940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You say, "it would soon fall out of favor for something that would be more offensive."  That's technically true, but I think that looking at the way it would happen is revealing.  The new word, Belgium, for example, wouldn't be intrinsically offensive.  Some words were created offensive because somebody wanted a word that was "filthy."  Consider fornication versus fucking or feces versus shit.</p><p>Some other words are offensive because of religious objections, but in fairness, the ideas behind the words wouldn't exist if it weren't for religion.  Consider, for example, "God damn it."  You hear it often enough that you don't think about it, but it's a curse.  The speaker is asking God to condemn the object of his wrath.  It's become rather commonplace and nobody really thinks about that meaning anymore, but consider how offended you'd be if somebody said it and actually meant it.  That's some pretty bitter hatred!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You say , " it would soon fall out of favor for something that would be more offensive .
" That 's technically true , but I think that looking at the way it would happen is revealing .
The new word , Belgium , for example , would n't be intrinsically offensive .
Some words were created offensive because somebody wanted a word that was " filthy .
" Consider fornication versus fucking or feces versus shit.Some other words are offensive because of religious objections , but in fairness , the ideas behind the words would n't exist if it were n't for religion .
Consider , for example , " God damn it .
" You hear it often enough that you do n't think about it , but it 's a curse .
The speaker is asking God to condemn the object of his wrath .
It 's become rather commonplace and nobody really thinks about that meaning anymore , but consider how offended you 'd be if somebody said it and actually meant it .
That 's some pretty bitter hatred !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You say, "it would soon fall out of favor for something that would be more offensive.
"  That's technically true, but I think that looking at the way it would happen is revealing.
The new word, Belgium, for example, wouldn't be intrinsically offensive.
Some words were created offensive because somebody wanted a word that was "filthy.
"  Consider fornication versus fucking or feces versus shit.Some other words are offensive because of religious objections, but in fairness, the ideas behind the words wouldn't exist if it weren't for religion.
Consider, for example, "God damn it.
"  You hear it often enough that you don't think about it, but it's a curse.
The speaker is asking God to condemn the object of his wrath.
It's become rather commonplace and nobody really thinks about that meaning anymore, but consider how offended you'd be if somebody said it and actually meant it.
That's some pretty bitter hatred!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194059</id>
	<title>iF!@k</title>
	<author>oleop</author>
	<datestamp>1244035080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just dont buy next iF!@k. This iDUDEs finally understand (form their own ads) that fat boy in glasses and suit makes more money then hipster in jeans.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just dont buy next iF ! @ k .
This iDUDEs finally understand ( form their own ads ) that fat boy in glasses and suit makes more money then hipster in jeans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just dont buy next iF!@k.
This iDUDEs finally understand (form their own ads) that fat boy in glasses and suit makes more money then hipster in jeans.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28204187</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>Gax</author>
	<datestamp>1244036100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Censorship is more indecent than any use of profanity ever can be.</p><p>Someone has to make a reality check.</p></div><p>I have no idea how the parent post was rated insightful. It sounds great in theory - information wants to be free, and all that - but it's an incredible simplistic argument to make. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with restricting information access. Do you want your home address, bank details and medical records to be published? What? You don't? Well done, you support censorship!</p><p>The question we should ask is who Apple believe they can protect by censoring specific content. It's possible to hear similar language down your local pub, so it's unlikely that they're trying to protect an adult who is accessing the service. Instead, it's likely that Apple are following the recommendations of a Slashdot meme - they're thinking of the children.</p><p>At this stage in a Slashdot thread it's common for someone to chime-in by suggesting that it's the parents responsibility to prevent a child from viewing questionable content. I've noticed that Slashdotters like to blame parents for most of the ills of the world. The parent made the decision to bring a child into the world so they should shoulder the blame when a child does something bad, right? It isn't the job of a web site admin or business to baby-sit the child, etc. There's just one little snag - a parent can't place their child in a giant bubble, nor can they monitor everything that the child views on ther internet. They do their best, but there are always moments of unsupervised use - the parent has fallen asleep for 20 minutes after a long shift at work, they're cooking an evening meal, they've gone to the toilet, maybe they're trying to learn a new programming language for their job. Alternatively, maybe the parent is trying to encourage the child's interest in technology by allowing them to play with the new iPhone they just bought. Who would object to a parent trying to create the next generation of geek? Apple is a professional company and there's no harm in allowing them to scroll through the app store and pick up a few apps, is there?</p><p>Then the kid notices an unassuming RSS reader...</p><p>I know that the Slashdot collective are a clever bunch of people who can put their mind to any scenario. Imagine you're Apple (don't worry about the lack of eyes, ears, arms and legs -  you're a business, not a fruit). As Apple, you know that your user community is diverse in its appeal, from young children to old people who smell of mothballs. You also know that the Internet has some seriously dodgy stuff on it and that, by providing access to third-party services through an RSS reader you are potentially allowing the aforementioned children to access the aforementioned dodgy stuff. More importantly, you have 50 more apps to review today and you know that you can be sued for making the wrong decision.</p><p>So what do you do? Do you:<br>[1] accept the app and hope that no one gets upset about it and sue you or complain to the press?<br>[2] Classify an RSS reader in an 'adult only' mode, as <a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1254675&amp;cid=28192399" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">QuantumG</a> [slashdot.org] suggests?<br>[3] Reject the app, minimising the risk that you are sued and/or receive bad press.<br>[4] Er... Open Box 4, phone a friend, consult the wheel of morality?</p><p>I know which choice I would make.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Censorship is more indecent than any use of profanity ever can be.Someone has to make a reality check.I have no idea how the parent post was rated insightful .
It sounds great in theory - information wants to be free , and all that - but it 's an incredible simplistic argument to make .
There 's nothing intrinsically wrong with restricting information access .
Do you want your home address , bank details and medical records to be published ?
What ? You do n't ?
Well done , you support censorship ! The question we should ask is who Apple believe they can protect by censoring specific content .
It 's possible to hear similar language down your local pub , so it 's unlikely that they 're trying to protect an adult who is accessing the service .
Instead , it 's likely that Apple are following the recommendations of a Slashdot meme - they 're thinking of the children.At this stage in a Slashdot thread it 's common for someone to chime-in by suggesting that it 's the parents responsibility to prevent a child from viewing questionable content .
I 've noticed that Slashdotters like to blame parents for most of the ills of the world .
The parent made the decision to bring a child into the world so they should shoulder the blame when a child does something bad , right ?
It is n't the job of a web site admin or business to baby-sit the child , etc .
There 's just one little snag - a parent ca n't place their child in a giant bubble , nor can they monitor everything that the child views on ther internet .
They do their best , but there are always moments of unsupervised use - the parent has fallen asleep for 20 minutes after a long shift at work , they 're cooking an evening meal , they 've gone to the toilet , maybe they 're trying to learn a new programming language for their job .
Alternatively , maybe the parent is trying to encourage the child 's interest in technology by allowing them to play with the new iPhone they just bought .
Who would object to a parent trying to create the next generation of geek ?
Apple is a professional company and there 's no harm in allowing them to scroll through the app store and pick up a few apps , is there ? Then the kid notices an unassuming RSS reader...I know that the Slashdot collective are a clever bunch of people who can put their mind to any scenario .
Imagine you 're Apple ( do n't worry about the lack of eyes , ears , arms and legs - you 're a business , not a fruit ) .
As Apple , you know that your user community is diverse in its appeal , from young children to old people who smell of mothballs .
You also know that the Internet has some seriously dodgy stuff on it and that , by providing access to third-party services through an RSS reader you are potentially allowing the aforementioned children to access the aforementioned dodgy stuff .
More importantly , you have 50 more apps to review today and you know that you can be sued for making the wrong decision.So what do you do ?
Do you : [ 1 ] accept the app and hope that no one gets upset about it and sue you or complain to the press ?
[ 2 ] Classify an RSS reader in an 'adult only ' mode , as QuantumG [ slashdot.org ] suggests ?
[ 3 ] Reject the app , minimising the risk that you are sued and/or receive bad press .
[ 4 ] Er... Open Box 4 , phone a friend , consult the wheel of morality ? I know which choice I would make .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Censorship is more indecent than any use of profanity ever can be.Someone has to make a reality check.I have no idea how the parent post was rated insightful.
It sounds great in theory - information wants to be free, and all that - but it's an incredible simplistic argument to make.
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with restricting information access.
Do you want your home address, bank details and medical records to be published?
What? You don't?
Well done, you support censorship!The question we should ask is who Apple believe they can protect by censoring specific content.
It's possible to hear similar language down your local pub, so it's unlikely that they're trying to protect an adult who is accessing the service.
Instead, it's likely that Apple are following the recommendations of a Slashdot meme - they're thinking of the children.At this stage in a Slashdot thread it's common for someone to chime-in by suggesting that it's the parents responsibility to prevent a child from viewing questionable content.
I've noticed that Slashdotters like to blame parents for most of the ills of the world.
The parent made the decision to bring a child into the world so they should shoulder the blame when a child does something bad, right?
It isn't the job of a web site admin or business to baby-sit the child, etc.
There's just one little snag - a parent can't place their child in a giant bubble, nor can they monitor everything that the child views on ther internet.
They do their best, but there are always moments of unsupervised use - the parent has fallen asleep for 20 minutes after a long shift at work, they're cooking an evening meal, they've gone to the toilet, maybe they're trying to learn a new programming language for their job.
Alternatively, maybe the parent is trying to encourage the child's interest in technology by allowing them to play with the new iPhone they just bought.
Who would object to a parent trying to create the next generation of geek?
Apple is a professional company and there's no harm in allowing them to scroll through the app store and pick up a few apps, is there?Then the kid notices an unassuming RSS reader...I know that the Slashdot collective are a clever bunch of people who can put their mind to any scenario.
Imagine you're Apple (don't worry about the lack of eyes, ears, arms and legs -  you're a business, not a fruit).
As Apple, you know that your user community is diverse in its appeal, from young children to old people who smell of mothballs.
You also know that the Internet has some seriously dodgy stuff on it and that, by providing access to third-party services through an RSS reader you are potentially allowing the aforementioned children to access the aforementioned dodgy stuff.
More importantly, you have 50 more apps to review today and you know that you can be sued for making the wrong decision.So what do you do?
Do you:[1] accept the app and hope that no one gets upset about it and sue you or complain to the press?
[2] Classify an RSS reader in an 'adult only' mode, as QuantumG [slashdot.org] suggests?
[3] Reject the app, minimising the risk that you are sued and/or receive bad press.
[4] Er... Open Box 4, phone a friend, consult the wheel of morality?I know which choice I would make.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192955</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>impaledsunset</author>
	<datestamp>1244020260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nokia N900 looks good enough for me to consider neither Apple, nor Sony. Thank you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nokia N900 looks good enough for me to consider neither Apple , nor Sony .
Thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nokia N900 looks good enough for me to consider neither Apple, nor Sony.
Thank you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192315</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28199977</id>
	<title>Re:Modus operandi</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244061900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I will do something about it... I will NEVER buy an Apple product and actively lobby friends not to buy them for reasons like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I will do something about it... I will NEVER buy an Apple product and actively lobby friends not to buy them for reasons like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I will do something about it... I will NEVER buy an Apple product and actively lobby friends not to buy them for reasons like this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192325</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194727</id>
	<title>Re:It's feeling like a trap</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244039400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've bought an ipod... and then I bought an Archos 5, and subsequently sold the ipod.

Apples is pants.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've bought an ipod... and then I bought an Archos 5 , and subsequently sold the ipod .
Apples is pants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've bought an ipod... and then I bought an Archos 5, and subsequently sold the ipod.
Apples is pants.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192445</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28201001</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>sorak</author>
	<datestamp>1244022600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm an Apple fanboy and even I'm sick of this.</p><p>If they're not careful, pretty soon the PSP Go App Store is going to be the one making all the money. Hey Sony, PSPhone in the works?</p></div><p>It could come pre-rootkitted from the factory.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm an Apple fanboy and even I 'm sick of this.If they 're not careful , pretty soon the PSP Go App Store is going to be the one making all the money .
Hey Sony , PSPhone in the works ? It could come pre-rootkitted from the factory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm an Apple fanboy and even I'm sick of this.If they're not careful, pretty soon the PSP Go App Store is going to be the one making all the money.
Hey Sony, PSPhone in the works?It could come pre-rootkitted from the factory.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192445</id>
	<title>It's feeling like a trap</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243970880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I managed to avoid the whole Apple experience; never bought an iPod, never bought a song from iTunes, never had any desire to get an iPhone.  I'm feeling a bit relieved.  The whole thing feels like a trap.  If I had a thousand bucks tied up in all this interconnected web of apps, platforms, and media, with it's seemingly ever-constricting chains, I'd be pretty irritated.<br> <br>

Lesson I've learned?  Always buy IP-violating, unregulated, cheap Chinese knockoffs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I managed to avoid the whole Apple experience ; never bought an iPod , never bought a song from iTunes , never had any desire to get an iPhone .
I 'm feeling a bit relieved .
The whole thing feels like a trap .
If I had a thousand bucks tied up in all this interconnected web of apps , platforms , and media , with it 's seemingly ever-constricting chains , I 'd be pretty irritated .
Lesson I 've learned ?
Always buy IP-violating , unregulated , cheap Chinese knockoffs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I managed to avoid the whole Apple experience; never bought an iPod, never bought a song from iTunes, never had any desire to get an iPhone.
I'm feeling a bit relieved.
The whole thing feels like a trap.
If I had a thousand bucks tied up in all this interconnected web of apps, platforms, and media, with it's seemingly ever-constricting chains, I'd be pretty irritated.
Lesson I've learned?
Always buy IP-violating, unregulated, cheap Chinese knockoffs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192873</id>
	<title>Re:I have an idea to avoid this kind of fiasco</title>
	<author>WillyDavidK</author>
	<datestamp>1244062440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except that when you joined the Apple Developer Program in the first place you agreed to the blatant censorship and approval process in full. Do you honestly think a behemoth company like Apple could really be tricked that easily?? Even people with real legitimate reasons to sue have no chance!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that when you joined the Apple Developer Program in the first place you agreed to the blatant censorship and approval process in full .
Do you honestly think a behemoth company like Apple could really be tricked that easily ? ?
Even people with real legitimate reasons to sue have no chance !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that when you joined the Apple Developer Program in the first place you agreed to the blatant censorship and approval process in full.
Do you honestly think a behemoth company like Apple could really be tricked that easily??
Even people with real legitimate reasons to sue have no chance!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192789</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28195537</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244042940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple ought to ban itself for creating a machine which allows access to the internet which occasionally contains naughty words.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple ought to ban itself for creating a machine which allows access to the internet which occasionally contains naughty words .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple ought to ban itself for creating a machine which allows access to the internet which occasionally contains naughty words.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192315</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193285</id>
	<title>Re:This is why</title>
	<author>\_Sprocket\_</author>
	<datestamp>1244024640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple. Microsoft is bad enough, but Apple is a control-freak of a company<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/
</p><p>Of course, when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes, it will all be better. Right?</p></div><p>I'd be happy if neither dominated the market.  Let everyone have to worry about screw-ups like this leading to real damage to the bottom line.  Companies who dominate markets tend to get a buffer from these kinds of mistakes / actions.
</p><p>
That's what makes Linux interesting.  It's not about Linux domination so much as Linux being ubiquitous.  Market domination with Linux won't come along AS "Linux."  It'll be something like RedHat, Ubuntu, or Android.  It will be a company name and a company's product line.  But if all the products are based on the same underlying technology, moving away from the bone-headed policies of one company to another's offerings won't be as painful.  It is part of the power of commodity hardware platforms and is the next logical step (if you're a consumer - commodities are tough business).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple .
Microsoft is bad enough , but Apple is a control-freak of a company : / Of course , when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes , it will all be better .
Right ? I 'd be happy if neither dominated the market .
Let everyone have to worry about screw-ups like this leading to real damage to the bottom line .
Companies who dominate markets tend to get a buffer from these kinds of mistakes / actions .
That 's what makes Linux interesting .
It 's not about Linux domination so much as Linux being ubiquitous .
Market domination with Linux wo n't come along AS " Linux .
" It 'll be something like RedHat , Ubuntu , or Android .
It will be a company name and a company 's product line .
But if all the products are based on the same underlying technology , moving away from the bone-headed policies of one company to another 's offerings wo n't be as painful .
It is part of the power of commodity hardware platforms and is the next logical step ( if you 're a consumer - commodities are tough business ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple.
Microsoft is bad enough, but Apple is a control-freak of a company :/
Of course, when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes, it will all be better.
Right?I'd be happy if neither dominated the market.
Let everyone have to worry about screw-ups like this leading to real damage to the bottom line.
Companies who dominate markets tend to get a buffer from these kinds of mistakes / actions.
That's what makes Linux interesting.
It's not about Linux domination so much as Linux being ubiquitous.
Market domination with Linux won't come along AS "Linux.
"  It'll be something like RedHat, Ubuntu, or Android.
It will be a company name and a company's product line.
But if all the products are based on the same underlying technology, moving away from the bone-headed policies of one company to another's offerings won't be as painful.
It is part of the power of commodity hardware platforms and is the next logical step (if you're a consumer - commodities are tough business).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193971</id>
	<title>Parents give in to their kids</title>
	<author>jaggeh</author>
	<datestamp>1244034060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>People young enough to be offended by things like this shouldnt be carrying Cellphones.</htmltext>
<tokenext>People young enough to be offended by things like this shouldnt be carrying Cellphones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People young enough to be offended by things like this shouldnt be carrying Cellphones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192581</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>Z00L00K</author>
	<datestamp>1243972380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Censorship is more indecent than any use of profanity ever can be.</p><p>Someone has to make a reality check.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Censorship is more indecent than any use of profanity ever can be.Someone has to make a reality check .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Censorship is more indecent than any use of profanity ever can be.Someone has to make a reality check.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192315</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192789</id>
	<title>I have an idea to avoid this kind of fiasco</title>
	<author>Planar</author>
	<datestamp>1244061540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Publish all your contents under a license that says "you are not allowed to read/view/listen to this for purposes of reviewing or censorship", then sue their ass off when they do censor it.  That would put the DMCA to good use, for once.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Publish all your contents under a license that says " you are not allowed to read/view/listen to this for purposes of reviewing or censorship " , then sue their ass off when they do censor it .
That would put the DMCA to good use , for once .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Publish all your contents under a license that says "you are not allowed to read/view/listen to this for purposes of reviewing or censorship", then sue their ass off when they do censor it.
That would put the DMCA to good use, for once.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192765</id>
	<title>Not on the iMac</title>
	<author>jamesmcm</author>
	<datestamp>1244061180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an iMac and they don't control what you do on OS X at all. I wouldn't buy an iPhone, etc. seeing all the problems they are causing there though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an iMac and they do n't control what you do on OS X at all .
I would n't buy an iPhone , etc .
seeing all the problems they are causing there though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an iMac and they don't control what you do on OS X at all.
I wouldn't buy an iPhone, etc.
seeing all the problems they are causing there though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192321</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193105</id>
	<title>It is not only Apple</title>
	<author>CarlaBernatti</author>
	<datestamp>1244022060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Quit normal to be banned from using the wrong words. I experience it again and again.

<a href="http://www.lust4asia.com/" title="lust4asia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lust4asia.com/</a> [lust4asia.com]
<a href="http://www.spunkjunks.com/" title="spunkjunks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.spunkjunks.com/</a> [spunkjunks.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quit normal to be banned from using the wrong words .
I experience it again and again .
http : //www.lust4asia.com/ [ lust4asia.com ] http : //www.spunkjunks.com/ [ spunkjunks.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quit normal to be banned from using the wrong words.
I experience it again and again.
http://www.lust4asia.com/ [lust4asia.com]
http://www.spunkjunks.com/ [spunkjunks.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194337</id>
	<title>Hear, hear...</title>
	<author>IANAAC</author>
	<datestamp>1244037240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It kind of amazes me that the same people who scream "Well don't use Windows/Linux/whatever if it doesn't do what you want!" are the same ones who do nothing but whine and continue to use a product solely based on its label and cool factor.
<p>
There ARE other options out there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It kind of amazes me that the same people who scream " Well do n't use Windows/Linux/whatever if it does n't do what you want !
" are the same ones who do nothing but whine and continue to use a product solely based on its label and cool factor .
There ARE other options out there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It kind of amazes me that the same people who scream "Well don't use Windows/Linux/whatever if it doesn't do what you want!
" are the same ones who do nothing but whine and continue to use a product solely based on its label and cool factor.
There ARE other options out there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192325</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192545</id>
	<title>Re:This is why</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243971960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple. Microsoft is bad enough, but Apple is a control-freak of a company<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/</p></div></blockquote><p>How about a marketplace where noone dominates &amp; everyone works to interoperability standards?</p><blockquote><div><p>Of course, when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes, it will all be better. Right?</p></div></blockquote><p>How about standards-on-the-desktop. That'll be better? Right?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple .
Microsoft is bad enough , but Apple is a control-freak of a company : /How about a marketplace where noone dominates &amp; everyone works to interoperability standards ? Of course , when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes , it will all be better .
Right ? How about standards-on-the-desktop .
That 'll be better ?
Right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple.
Microsoft is bad enough, but Apple is a control-freak of a company :/How about a marketplace where noone dominates &amp; everyone works to interoperability standards?Of course, when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes, it will all be better.
Right?How about standards-on-the-desktop.
That'll be better?
Right?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192321</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194215</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking as an Apple fanboi ...</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1244036280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To save costs, Apple has outsourced app review to a call center in India. There they follow a script. Anything the script catches, or falls outside the script, is rejected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To save costs , Apple has outsourced app review to a call center in India .
There they follow a script .
Anything the script catches , or falls outside the script , is rejected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To save costs, Apple has outsourced app review to a call center in India.
There they follow a script.
Anything the script catches, or falls outside the script, is rejected.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192319</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193321</id>
	<title>Re:The problem isn't necessarily with Apple itself</title>
	<author>Midnight Thunder</author>
	<datestamp>1244025180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>... but with the employees who are doing the reviews. It really seems that some of these reviewers are your "average Joe" user, and may not actually be the most computer-literate users out there.</i></p><p>Certainly, but their actions can and do effect Apple's reputation. For this reason it is important for their employees to to be trained to do the job right. If their are any doubts about the system, then they should be having two separate people verifying the same application and if differences in opinion come up, then a flag should be raised.</p><p>The problem here is we have one vendor being the gateway yo everything on the platform. We are seeing this big time with Apple, but we also forget that this is not a new business model, especially when you consider how games consoles have the same process in place. It does not make it right, but it isn't new. There is a catch in being the only vendor, since you might want to sell just about anything, but when the wares that are sold through you can impact your reputation you have to pay attention.</p><p>The only way to avoid this issue is to either chooses a smart phone which doesn't suffer from this or jail break you iPhone. There are other possibilities, but these are the ones I want to mention.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... but with the employees who are doing the reviews .
It really seems that some of these reviewers are your " average Joe " user , and may not actually be the most computer-literate users out there.Certainly , but their actions can and do effect Apple 's reputation .
For this reason it is important for their employees to to be trained to do the job right .
If their are any doubts about the system , then they should be having two separate people verifying the same application and if differences in opinion come up , then a flag should be raised.The problem here is we have one vendor being the gateway yo everything on the platform .
We are seeing this big time with Apple , but we also forget that this is not a new business model , especially when you consider how games consoles have the same process in place .
It does not make it right , but it is n't new .
There is a catch in being the only vendor , since you might want to sell just about anything , but when the wares that are sold through you can impact your reputation you have to pay attention.The only way to avoid this issue is to either chooses a smart phone which does n't suffer from this or jail break you iPhone .
There are other possibilities , but these are the ones I want to mention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... but with the employees who are doing the reviews.
It really seems that some of these reviewers are your "average Joe" user, and may not actually be the most computer-literate users out there.Certainly, but their actions can and do effect Apple's reputation.
For this reason it is important for their employees to to be trained to do the job right.
If their are any doubts about the system, then they should be having two separate people verifying the same application and if differences in opinion come up, then a flag should be raised.The problem here is we have one vendor being the gateway yo everything on the platform.
We are seeing this big time with Apple, but we also forget that this is not a new business model, especially when you consider how games consoles have the same process in place.
It does not make it right, but it isn't new.
There is a catch in being the only vendor, since you might want to sell just about anything, but when the wares that are sold through you can impact your reputation you have to pay attention.The only way to avoid this issue is to either chooses a smart phone which doesn't suffer from this or jail break you iPhone.
There are other possibilities, but these are the ones I want to mention.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193235</id>
	<title>Re:It's feeling like a trap</title>
	<author>tyroneking</author>
	<datestamp>1244024100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it is a trap. Thank gawd for Rockbox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it is a trap .
Thank gawd for Rockbox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it is a trap.
Thank gawd for Rockbox.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192445</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28201687</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking as an Apple fanboi ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244025060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>3. They employ people on low pay to follow certain rules when accepting apps all day, and the people sometimes don't understand the rules? With so many apps to approve a day, this seems likely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>3 .
They employ people on low pay to follow certain rules when accepting apps all day , and the people sometimes do n't understand the rules ?
With so many apps to approve a day , this seems likely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3.
They employ people on low pay to follow certain rules when accepting apps all day, and the people sometimes don't understand the rules?
With so many apps to approve a day, this seems likely.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192319</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194953</id>
	<title>Seriously</title>
	<author>jason.sweet</author>
	<datestamp>1244040240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They did not ban it because of the f-bomb.  They banned it because the video sucked.  It barely makes sense and it is not funny at all.  Apple isn't worried so much about family values as they are about good taste.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They did not ban it because of the f-bomb .
They banned it because the video sucked .
It barely makes sense and it is not funny at all .
Apple is n't worried so much about family values as they are about good taste .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They did not ban it because of the f-bomb.
They banned it because the video sucked.
It barely makes sense and it is not funny at all.
Apple isn't worried so much about family values as they are about good taste.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192579</id>
	<title>Am I the only one...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243972380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... whose eyes sort of glossed over on reading the summary? It reads like something you'd expect some valley girl to be gossiping about over the phone on a teen drama programme.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... whose eyes sort of glossed over on reading the summary ?
It reads like something you 'd expect some valley girl to be gossiping about over the phone on a teen drama programme .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... whose eyes sort of glossed over on reading the summary?
It reads like something you'd expect some valley girl to be gossiping about over the phone on a teen drama programme.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193225</id>
	<title>Fucking Morons</title>
	<author>Master of Transhuman</author>
	<datestamp>1244024040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And every one of those fucking idiots uses the word fuck on a fucking hourly basis and the hypocritical fucks can't stand to see the word fuck in a fucking RSS feed?</p><p>FUCK 'EM IF THEY CAN'T TAKE A FUCKING JOKE!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And every one of those fucking idiots uses the word fuck on a fucking hourly basis and the hypocritical fucks ca n't stand to see the word fuck in a fucking RSS feed ? FUCK 'EM IF THEY CA N'T TAKE A FUCKING JOKE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And every one of those fucking idiots uses the word fuck on a fucking hourly basis and the hypocritical fucks can't stand to see the word fuck in a fucking RSS feed?FUCK 'EM IF THEY CAN'T TAKE A FUCKING JOKE!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28198673</id>
	<title>typical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244055540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple is control freaks and Apple fanboys like to be controlled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple is control freaks and Apple fanboys like to be controlled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple is control freaks and Apple fanboys like to be controlled.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193101</id>
	<title>Don't ridicule the F&#195;&#188;hrer ...</title>
	<author>meist3r</author>
	<datestamp>1244021940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or Steve Jobs will lose his temper<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... turtle necks are the new uniforms. Apples the new swastikas<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... want proof: <a href="http://www.apfelfront.de/propaganda.html" title="apfelfront.de">http://www.apfelfront.de/propaganda.html</a> [apfelfront.de]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or Steve Jobs will lose his temper ... turtle necks are the new uniforms .
Apples the new swastikas ... want proof : http : //www.apfelfront.de/propaganda.html [ apfelfront.de ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or Steve Jobs will lose his temper ... turtle necks are the new uniforms.
Apples the new swastikas ... want proof: http://www.apfelfront.de/propaganda.html [apfelfront.de]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28197133</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking as an Apple fanboi ...</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1244049600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And I was seriously considering getting an iPhone to go with my iPod and iEverythingElse<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but I'm not going to even think about it until Apple fixes whatever the hell is going on with the App Store.</p> </div><p>That's the only choice that makes sense.  I am not able to comprehend how people can buy a device that is rigidly controlled by the manufacturer, then be surprised/offended when that manufacturer actually <i>exercises</i> that control.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And I was seriously considering getting an iPhone to go with my iPod and iEverythingElse ... but I 'm not going to even think about it until Apple fixes whatever the hell is going on with the App Store .
That 's the only choice that makes sense .
I am not able to comprehend how people can buy a device that is rigidly controlled by the manufacturer , then be surprised/offended when that manufacturer actually exercises that control .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I was seriously considering getting an iPhone to go with my iPod and iEverythingElse ... but I'm not going to even think about it until Apple fixes whatever the hell is going on with the App Store.
That's the only choice that makes sense.
I am not able to comprehend how people can buy a device that is rigidly controlled by the manufacturer, then be surprised/offended when that manufacturer actually exercises that control.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192319</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28204091</id>
	<title>Downfall parodies and speaking German.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1244035380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Damn. It's completely impossible to read the text in the Downfall parodies, when your brain constantly gets hooked on interpreting the German speech. And it's also not funny anymore, because the spoken words make sense...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn .
It 's completely impossible to read the text in the Downfall parodies , when your brain constantly gets hooked on interpreting the German speech .
And it 's also not funny anymore , because the spoken words make sense... : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn.
It's completely impossible to read the text in the Downfall parodies, when your brain constantly gets hooked on interpreting the German speech.
And it's also not funny anymore, because the spoken words make sense... :(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192419</id>
	<title>Re:Apple == Nazis</title>
	<author>elfprince13</author>
	<datestamp>1243970580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Go-Go Godwin!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Go-Go Godwin !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go-Go Godwin!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192339</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192555</id>
	<title>Time to wrap it up iPhoneailures</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243972020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just get a Blackberry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just get a Blackberry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just get a Blackberry.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28196215</id>
	<title>Apple helping retards</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1244045700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Come now, lets all be fair, it is commendable that Apple are hiring mentally diseased retarded people! They need jobs too!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Come now , lets all be fair , it is commendable that Apple are hiring mentally diseased retarded people !
They need jobs too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Come now, lets all be fair, it is commendable that Apple are hiring mentally diseased retarded people!
They need jobs too!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193725</id>
	<title>Re:This is why</title>
	<author>Saint Stephen</author>
	<datestamp>1244030880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All I know is any time I wanted to try out apps I wrote myself on my PocketPC or give them to someone to install, I never had any trouble.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All I know is any time I wanted to try out apps I wrote myself on my PocketPC or give them to someone to install , I never had any trouble .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All I know is any time I wanted to try out apps I wrote myself on my PocketPC or give them to someone to install, I never had any trouble.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192321</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192541</id>
	<title>Let's be clear here...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243971840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and Gordon Ramsay would agree, Food is not a 'bad word'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and Gordon Ramsay would agree , Food is not a 'bad word' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and Gordon Ramsay would agree, Food is not a 'bad word'.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192325</id>
	<title>Modus operandi</title>
	<author>ianare</author>
	<datestamp>1243969620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple tries to suppress something it doesn't like, in a way sure to show everyone what a bunch of pricks they are, and yet no one will do a thing about it. News at 11.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple tries to suppress something it does n't like , in a way sure to show everyone what a bunch of pricks they are , and yet no one will do a thing about it .
News at 11 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple tries to suppress something it doesn't like, in a way sure to show everyone what a bunch of pricks they are, and yet no one will do a thing about it.
News at 11.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28195743</id>
	<title>What do you mean "parody"?</title>
	<author>TooLazyToLogon</author>
	<datestamp>1244043840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the 1930s Hitler actually sued a US senator (Alan Cranston) for copyright infringement, for distributing copies of "Mein Kampf" he had printed, to warn the US about Hitler's intentions. Hitler won that one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the 1930s Hitler actually sued a US senator ( Alan Cranston ) for copyright infringement , for distributing copies of " Mein Kampf " he had printed , to warn the US about Hitler 's intentions .
Hitler won that one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the 1930s Hitler actually sued a US senator (Alan Cranston) for copyright infringement, for distributing copies of "Mein Kampf" he had printed, to warn the US about Hitler's intentions.
Hitler won that one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28197083</id>
	<title>More useful discussion please</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244049360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People are getting all wrapped around the axle about a little RSS feeder app that was obviously banned by a moron. My expectation is that this particular ban will be lifted about 10 minutes after it hits the radar of someone at Apple with half a brain. A simple email or phone call could probably solve this one issue.</p><p>Larger discussion of Apple control over apps for the iPhone should be predicated on fact and actual persistent bans. Bottom line, Apple has opened up the iPhone enough that people can build their own software for it with a model that protects the vast majority from malicious code. I don't even own an iPhone, and I'm impressed. Give them a bit of a break and 4 or 5 years to perfect the model. Give them feedback via email and phone calls to their helpdesk. Contribute to the efforts to improve it.</p><p>Any control method is likely to stir the ire of the anarchists, but it would be far more productive to focus on recommendations of control methods which might be more acceptable. I believe Apple's objective is to make their platform safe for use by non-techies (average-joe's, children, students), open enough for techies to make it truly useful (app contribution), and manageable enough that end-users can protect themselves from content which they find undesireable (parental and personal controls which work). In general, a very admirable model for empowering the individual while still achieving the Apple corporate objective (profit).</p><p>Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most do- (B. Franklin)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People are getting all wrapped around the axle about a little RSS feeder app that was obviously banned by a moron .
My expectation is that this particular ban will be lifted about 10 minutes after it hits the radar of someone at Apple with half a brain .
A simple email or phone call could probably solve this one issue.Larger discussion of Apple control over apps for the iPhone should be predicated on fact and actual persistent bans .
Bottom line , Apple has opened up the iPhone enough that people can build their own software for it with a model that protects the vast majority from malicious code .
I do n't even own an iPhone , and I 'm impressed .
Give them a bit of a break and 4 or 5 years to perfect the model .
Give them feedback via email and phone calls to their helpdesk .
Contribute to the efforts to improve it.Any control method is likely to stir the ire of the anarchists , but it would be far more productive to focus on recommendations of control methods which might be more acceptable .
I believe Apple 's objective is to make their platform safe for use by non-techies ( average-joe 's , children , students ) , open enough for techies to make it truly useful ( app contribution ) , and manageable enough that end-users can protect themselves from content which they find undesireable ( parental and personal controls which work ) .
In general , a very admirable model for empowering the individual while still achieving the Apple corporate objective ( profit ) .Any fool can criticize , condemn and complain and most do- ( B. Franklin )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People are getting all wrapped around the axle about a little RSS feeder app that was obviously banned by a moron.
My expectation is that this particular ban will be lifted about 10 minutes after it hits the radar of someone at Apple with half a brain.
A simple email or phone call could probably solve this one issue.Larger discussion of Apple control over apps for the iPhone should be predicated on fact and actual persistent bans.
Bottom line, Apple has opened up the iPhone enough that people can build their own software for it with a model that protects the vast majority from malicious code.
I don't even own an iPhone, and I'm impressed.
Give them a bit of a break and 4 or 5 years to perfect the model.
Give them feedback via email and phone calls to their helpdesk.
Contribute to the efforts to improve it.Any control method is likely to stir the ire of the anarchists, but it would be far more productive to focus on recommendations of control methods which might be more acceptable.
I believe Apple's objective is to make their platform safe for use by non-techies (average-joe's, children, students), open enough for techies to make it truly useful (app contribution), and manageable enough that end-users can protect themselves from content which they find undesireable (parental and personal controls which work).
In general, a very admirable model for empowering the individual while still achieving the Apple corporate objective (profit).Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most do- (B. Franklin)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28212239</id>
	<title>Re:Fucking Morons</title>
	<author>T.E.D.</author>
	<datestamp>1244141280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Great. Now you've gotten Safari banned too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Great .
Now you 've gotten Safari banned too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great.
Now you've gotten Safari banned too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193225</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193369</id>
	<title>Re:The problem isn't necessarily with Apple itself</title>
	<author>PatrickThomson</author>
	<datestamp>1244025600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This was only an example RSS feed shipped with the app for checking, and I presume that the actual app would have been empty of pre-installed feeds. The reviewer had no way of knowing that though.</p><p>A feed reader isn't exactly a kid-friendly app, so this is a "whoopsie" along the same kind of lines as, say, an adult-targeted podcast about fishing or video games saying "f*ck" and then forgetting to set the "explicit" flat. A technical slipup, nowhere near as bad as accidentally putting porn links on an XO.</p><p>I don't blame apple for the reaction though. It was a little dumb not to take 2 seconds to submit the app with a known-inoffensive feed like disney.com (or for brownie points, apple's own news feed<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This was only an example RSS feed shipped with the app for checking , and I presume that the actual app would have been empty of pre-installed feeds .
The reviewer had no way of knowing that though.A feed reader is n't exactly a kid-friendly app , so this is a " whoopsie " along the same kind of lines as , say , an adult-targeted podcast about fishing or video games saying " f * ck " and then forgetting to set the " explicit " flat .
A technical slipup , nowhere near as bad as accidentally putting porn links on an XO.I do n't blame apple for the reaction though .
It was a little dumb not to take 2 seconds to submit the app with a known-inoffensive feed like disney.com ( or for brownie points , apple 's own news feed : ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This was only an example RSS feed shipped with the app for checking, and I presume that the actual app would have been empty of pre-installed feeds.
The reviewer had no way of knowing that though.A feed reader isn't exactly a kid-friendly app, so this is a "whoopsie" along the same kind of lines as, say, an adult-targeted podcast about fishing or video games saying "f*ck" and then forgetting to set the "explicit" flat.
A technical slipup, nowhere near as bad as accidentally putting porn links on an XO.I don't blame apple for the reaction though.
It was a little dumb not to take 2 seconds to submit the app with a known-inoffensive feed like disney.com (or for brownie points, apple's own news feed :) )</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193247</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking as an Apple fanboi ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244024220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>stop acting so gay then</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>stop acting so gay then</tokentext>
<sentencetext>stop acting so gay then</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192561</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194097</id>
	<title>Re:Bad words?</title>
	<author>sFurbo</author>
	<datestamp>1244035320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  Some words were created offensive because somebody wanted a word that was "filthy."  Consider [...] or feces versus shit.</p></div><p>Yes, those protoindoeuropeans creating the word "skheid-" for "to seperate" probably did it to have a filthy word. I'm sure that was their reason. Unless you mean that "feces" was created to be filthy, which is just as wrong.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Consider, for example, "God damn it." You hear it often enough that you don't think about it, but it's a curse. The speaker is asking God to condemn the object of his wrath. It's become rather commonplace and nobody really thinks about that meaning anymore, but consider how offended you'd be if somebody said it and actually meant it.</p></div><p>Offended because somebody asked their imaginary friend to condemn me? Why would I be offended? I might feel sorry for the poor deluded fellow, but not offended.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some words were created offensive because somebody wanted a word that was " filthy .
" Consider [ ... ] or feces versus shit.Yes , those protoindoeuropeans creating the word " skheid- " for " to seperate " probably did it to have a filthy word .
I 'm sure that was their reason .
Unless you mean that " feces " was created to be filthy , which is just as wrong.Consider , for example , " God damn it .
" You hear it often enough that you do n't think about it , but it 's a curse .
The speaker is asking God to condemn the object of his wrath .
It 's become rather commonplace and nobody really thinks about that meaning anymore , but consider how offended you 'd be if somebody said it and actually meant it.Offended because somebody asked their imaginary friend to condemn me ?
Why would I be offended ?
I might feel sorry for the poor deluded fellow , but not offended .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  Some words were created offensive because somebody wanted a word that was "filthy.
"  Consider [...] or feces versus shit.Yes, those protoindoeuropeans creating the word "skheid-" for "to seperate" probably did it to have a filthy word.
I'm sure that was their reason.
Unless you mean that "feces" was created to be filthy, which is just as wrong.Consider, for example, "God damn it.
" You hear it often enough that you don't think about it, but it's a curse.
The speaker is asking God to condemn the object of his wrath.
It's become rather commonplace and nobody really thinks about that meaning anymore, but consider how offended you'd be if somebody said it and actually meant it.Offended because somebody asked their imaginary friend to condemn me?
Why would I be offended?
I might feel sorry for the poor deluded fellow, but not offended.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28199509</id>
	<title>Re:Bad words?</title>
	<author>btempleton</author>
	<datestamp>1244059620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But that's the point here.  Hitler is screaming and angry.  Of course he would be expected to be using strong words there.  While we think of Hitler as the greatest villain of the modern age, strangely, it is still funny for a subtitle to have him say fuck.  So it was added.  It was appropriate.  It was, however, quite rare for the EFF feed, but not impossible.  It was not actually in the feed anyway.  So Apple was just plain silly, and we have to assume this is happening other times where we don't hear about it.   That's worth understanding as we want to understand how different software ecosystems, including walled gardens, work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But that 's the point here .
Hitler is screaming and angry .
Of course he would be expected to be using strong words there .
While we think of Hitler as the greatest villain of the modern age , strangely , it is still funny for a subtitle to have him say fuck .
So it was added .
It was appropriate .
It was , however , quite rare for the EFF feed , but not impossible .
It was not actually in the feed anyway .
So Apple was just plain silly , and we have to assume this is happening other times where we do n't hear about it .
That 's worth understanding as we want to understand how different software ecosystems , including walled gardens , work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But that's the point here.
Hitler is screaming and angry.
Of course he would be expected to be using strong words there.
While we think of Hitler as the greatest villain of the modern age, strangely, it is still funny for a subtitle to have him say fuck.
So it was added.
It was appropriate.
It was, however, quite rare for the EFF feed, but not impossible.
It was not actually in the feed anyway.
So Apple was just plain silly, and we have to assume this is happening other times where we don't hear about it.
That's worth understanding as we want to understand how different software ecosystems, including walled gardens, work.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192417</id>
	<title>Re:Enough already, Apple</title>
	<author>rs79</author>
	<datestamp>1243970580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should have struck with string jokes, Brad. Look at the trouble you've caused.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...gryphon!richard</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should have struck with string jokes , Brad .
Look at the trouble you 've caused .
...gryphon ! richard</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should have struck with string jokes, Brad.
Look at the trouble you've caused.
...gryphon!richard</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28195365</id>
	<title>On a sorta-related side topic...</title>
	<author>Suzuran</author>
	<datestamp>1244042160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anyone else feel that the cast of Downfall were ROBBED when denied their Oscar?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone else feel that the cast of Downfall were ROBBED when denied their Oscar ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone else feel that the cast of Downfall were ROBBED when denied their Oscar?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192321</id>
	<title>This is why</title>
	<author>EsbenMoseHansen</author>
	<datestamp>1243969620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple. Microsoft is bad enough, but Apple is a control-freak of a company<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/
</p><p>Of course, when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes, it will all be better. Right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple .
Microsoft is bad enough , but Apple is a control-freak of a company : / Of course , when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes , it will all be better .
Right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. I am actually happy that Microsoft dominates the market over Apple.
Microsoft is bad enough, but Apple is a control-freak of a company :/
Of course, when the year of linux-on-the-desktop-comes, it will all be better.
Right?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28194665</id>
	<title>FCOL</title>
	<author>morgauxo</author>
	<datestamp>1244039100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why do people buy iPhones?  If you have one... you paid for that piece of equipment.  It's yours.  It belongs to you.  And someone else gets to dictate what you install on it?  I would have thought most Slashdot readers would be totally against something like that and yet so many seem to be Apple fanboys.  I just don't get it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do people buy iPhones ?
If you have one... you paid for that piece of equipment .
It 's yours .
It belongs to you .
And someone else gets to dictate what you install on it ?
I would have thought most Slashdot readers would be totally against something like that and yet so many seem to be Apple fanboys .
I just do n't get it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do people buy iPhones?
If you have one... you paid for that piece of equipment.
It's yours.
It belongs to you.
And someone else gets to dictate what you install on it?
I would have thought most Slashdot readers would be totally against something like that and yet so many seem to be Apple fanboys.
I just don't get it!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28192539</id>
	<title>Easy fix</title>
	<author>modemboy</author>
	<datestamp>1243971840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suppose this could all be fixed by having more than one app reviewer look at each app before approval/denial. That could raise costs a little but at the same time apple faces a bigger risk should any single employee approve something truly objectionable. I can't imagine 2 random apple app reviewers would both find these silly reasons to reject apps, so it seems to me the easiest solution to have multiple internal reviewers, I can't believe they don't do this already...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose this could all be fixed by having more than one app reviewer look at each app before approval/denial .
That could raise costs a little but at the same time apple faces a bigger risk should any single employee approve something truly objectionable .
I ca n't imagine 2 random apple app reviewers would both find these silly reasons to reject apps , so it seems to me the easiest solution to have multiple internal reviewers , I ca n't believe they do n't do this already.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose this could all be fixed by having more than one app reviewer look at each app before approval/denial.
That could raise costs a little but at the same time apple faces a bigger risk should any single employee approve something truly objectionable.
I can't imagine 2 random apple app reviewers would both find these silly reasons to reject apps, so it seems to me the easiest solution to have multiple internal reviewers, I can't believe they don't do this already...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_03_006206.28193399</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking as an Apple fanboi ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244026020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Personally, I pay "the Apple tax" because OS X and related applications fit my workflow much better.<br>In other words, I pay more up front but save a whole lot of time and money later.</p><p>The reason I whine about Linux fanbois is that you're always ignoring reasonable arguments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , I pay " the Apple tax " because OS X and related applications fit my workflow much better.In other words , I pay more up front but save a whole lot of time and money later.The reason I whine about Linux fanbois is that you 're always ignoring reasonable arguments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, I pay "the Apple tax" because OS X and related applications fit my workflow much better.In other words, I pay more up front but save a whole lot of time and money later.The reason I whine about Linux fanbois is that you're always ignoring reasonable arguments.</sentencetext>
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