<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_02_1410237</id>
	<title>Twitter, Flickr, Hotmail, Others Blocked In China</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1243953780000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"Two days ahead of the 20th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square 'incident,' <a href="http://www.danwei.org/net\_nanny\_follies/twitter\_domain\_blocked\_in\_chin.php">several high profile Internet sites have been blocked in mainland China</a>. These include Twitter.com, Flickr.com, Live.com, and Bing.com.  While Internet blocks are common enough in mainland China, blocking such high-profile sites is unusual.  In addition, blog reports suggest even state-owned television broadcasts are suffering multiple instances of muting lasting several seconds (again, not unusual for some foreign stations broadcast over cable, but unusual for local state-owned media) suggesting state security, online or through other technology, has tightened significantly, perhaps in anticipation or discovery of protest plans."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " Two days ahead of the 20th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square 'incident, ' several high profile Internet sites have been blocked in mainland China .
These include Twitter.com , Flickr.com , Live.com , and Bing.com .
While Internet blocks are common enough in mainland China , blocking such high-profile sites is unusual .
In addition , blog reports suggest even state-owned television broadcasts are suffering multiple instances of muting lasting several seconds ( again , not unusual for some foreign stations broadcast over cable , but unusual for local state-owned media ) suggesting state security , online or through other technology , has tightened significantly , perhaps in anticipation or discovery of protest plans .
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<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "Two days ahead of the 20th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square 'incident,' several high profile Internet sites have been blocked in mainland China.
These include Twitter.com, Flickr.com, Live.com, and Bing.com.
While Internet blocks are common enough in mainland China, blocking such high-profile sites is unusual.
In addition, blog reports suggest even state-owned television broadcasts are suffering multiple instances of muting lasting several seconds (again, not unusual for some foreign stations broadcast over cable, but unusual for local state-owned media) suggesting state security, online or through other technology, has tightened significantly, perhaps in anticipation or discovery of protest plans.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183109</id>
	<title>Re:What are we doing?</title>
	<author>gnick</author>
	<datestamp>1243960440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...if you buy Chinese goods, you support oppression.</p></div><p>Yeah, but where do you think we get the $$ to buy that Chinese crap?  Take a look at our national debt and the debt-holders.  We're buying Chinese crap using $$ borrowed from the Chinese.  It's a very dysfunctional, but symbiotic, relationship.  Look up codependency.  And our financial overlords (with whom I do not necessarily agree) seem to think that we need to keep buying this crap to sustain our culture.</p><p>The only solution I see is a huge culture change (but that's terribly difficult to effect - If you can figure it out, please do.)</p><p>Back on-topic, this sucks.  I've got a lot of respect for the Chinese people, but their government is miserable.  And they seem to be too big and disconnected to really shake things up.  Events like Tiananmen Square make big news and show the world that they're trying, but don't really seems to affect the way things run day-to-day.  I'd love to drop some pamphlets instructing citizens on methods for proxying out through the great Chinese firewall...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...if you buy Chinese goods , you support oppression.Yeah , but where do you think we get the $ $ to buy that Chinese crap ?
Take a look at our national debt and the debt-holders .
We 're buying Chinese crap using $ $ borrowed from the Chinese .
It 's a very dysfunctional , but symbiotic , relationship .
Look up codependency .
And our financial overlords ( with whom I do not necessarily agree ) seem to think that we need to keep buying this crap to sustain our culture.The only solution I see is a huge culture change ( but that 's terribly difficult to effect - If you can figure it out , please do .
) Back on-topic , this sucks .
I 've got a lot of respect for the Chinese people , but their government is miserable .
And they seem to be too big and disconnected to really shake things up .
Events like Tiananmen Square make big news and show the world that they 're trying , but do n't really seems to affect the way things run day-to-day .
I 'd love to drop some pamphlets instructing citizens on methods for proxying out through the great Chinese firewall.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...if you buy Chinese goods, you support oppression.Yeah, but where do you think we get the $$ to buy that Chinese crap?
Take a look at our national debt and the debt-holders.
We're buying Chinese crap using $$ borrowed from the Chinese.
It's a very dysfunctional, but symbiotic, relationship.
Look up codependency.
And our financial overlords (with whom I do not necessarily agree) seem to think that we need to keep buying this crap to sustain our culture.The only solution I see is a huge culture change (but that's terribly difficult to effect - If you can figure it out, please do.
)Back on-topic, this sucks.
I've got a lot of respect for the Chinese people, but their government is miserable.
And they seem to be too big and disconnected to really shake things up.
Events like Tiananmen Square make big news and show the world that they're trying, but don't really seems to affect the way things run day-to-day.
I'd love to drop some pamphlets instructing citizens on methods for proxying out through the great Chinese firewall...
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	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182381</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182583</id>
	<title>Editors, please!</title>
	<author>curmudgeous</author>
	<datestamp>1243958640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b> <i>"Two days ahead of the Tiananmen Square 'incident'...</i> </b> </p><p>So, slashdot is predicting incidents now?  Or should that read, "Two days ahead of the anniversary of..."?</p><p>Yes, I'm picking nits, but the overall quality of journalism seems to be declining on a daily basis.  Despite what some here may think, accuracy IS important.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Two days ahead of the Tiananmen Square 'incident'... So , slashdot is predicting incidents now ?
Or should that read , " Two days ahead of the anniversary of... " ? Yes , I 'm picking nits , but the overall quality of journalism seems to be declining on a daily basis .
Despite what some here may think , accuracy IS important .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "Two days ahead of the Tiananmen Square 'incident'...  So, slashdot is predicting incidents now?
Or should that read, "Two days ahead of the anniversary of..."?Yes, I'm picking nits, but the overall quality of journalism seems to be declining on a daily basis.
Despite what some here may think, accuracy IS important.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182251</id>
	<title>Retaliation</title>
	<author>siloko</author>
	<datestamp>1243957500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's it, <i>I'm</i> going to block China</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's it , I 'm going to block China</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's it, I'm going to block China</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28184243</id>
	<title>Re:What are we doing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243965180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>and you never buy anything from china....</htmltext>
<tokenext>and you never buy anything from china... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and you never buy anything from china....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182381</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183899</id>
	<title>Naah, you Capitalist dogs never understand us.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243963620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have always feared that someday<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. may end up victim of our censorship too.<br>But of course I paean the omnipotent Party, Sir!</p><p>Cowardly Yours<br>Lt. Anonymous</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have always feared that someday / .
may end up victim of our censorship too.But of course I paean the omnipotent Party , Sir ! Cowardly YoursLt .
Anonymous</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have always feared that someday /.
may end up victim of our censorship too.But of course I paean the omnipotent Party, Sir!Cowardly YoursLt.
Anonymous</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28184647</id>
	<title>Re:What are we doing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243966860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, the fucking computer you're typing on is manufactured in China. Just like the clothes on your back and the fork you used to shovel lunch into your mouth today. Get over yourself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , the fucking computer you 're typing on is manufactured in China .
Just like the clothes on your back and the fork you used to shovel lunch into your mouth today .
Get over yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, the fucking computer you're typing on is manufactured in China.
Just like the clothes on your back and the fork you used to shovel lunch into your mouth today.
Get over yourself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182381</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182471</id>
	<title>Re:Retaliation</title>
	<author>Z00L00K</author>
	<datestamp>1243958280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Makes sense - the amount of intrusion attempts and spam coming from Chinese servers may make it worth it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Makes sense - the amount of intrusion attempts and spam coming from Chinese servers may make it worth it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Makes sense - the amount of intrusion attempts and spam coming from Chinese servers may make it worth it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182251</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182381</id>
	<title>What are we doing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243957980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships? Why do we continue to support reigimes of tyrrany?<br> <br>Oh yeah, because they make shit on the cheap and we're a nation of greedy slobs with a humane streak which lasts up until that $5 is taken from your pay cheque to buy your "morality token" for the month.<br> <br>Flamebait or not, if you buy Chinese goods, you support oppression.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships ?
Why do we continue to support reigimes of tyrrany ?
Oh yeah , because they make shit on the cheap and we 're a nation of greedy slobs with a humane streak which lasts up until that $ 5 is taken from your pay cheque to buy your " morality token " for the month .
Flamebait or not , if you buy Chinese goods , you support oppression .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships?
Why do we continue to support reigimes of tyrrany?
Oh yeah, because they make shit on the cheap and we're a nation of greedy slobs with a humane streak which lasts up until that $5 is taken from your pay cheque to buy your "morality token" for the month.
Flamebait or not, if you buy Chinese goods, you support oppression.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28185831</id>
	<title>Re:What are we doing?</title>
	<author>gzipped\_tar</author>
	<datestamp>1243971840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I buy Chinese productions every damn day and I buy them a lot, because I am a Chinese and I live in China. By your argument I support oppression, which I don't, by means of making myself heard whenever possible.</p><p>It's just the market at work -- we buy cheap shit (or put it in another way, we are reasonable enough to keep our demands satisfied with the least expensive goods available). IMHO it sounds pretty un-American to base one's marketing decisions upon ideological matters like this -- indeed it's so un-American that I have a compelling reason to call you a terrorist and report your comments to the NSA<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) &lt;/sarcasm&gt;</p><p>You either like it or not, but it's how things turn out to be working. I can understand your strong feeling about an oppressive regime; I just don't think one's economy decision could by any means be an indicator of moral integrity.</p><p>BTW I don't care that much about English grammar/spellings 'coz I'm not a native speaker. Honestly I'm not very fluent in it. If you find any grammatical errors in my posts, it means I just didn't bother checking, and that you can mod me down if you like.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I buy Chinese productions every damn day and I buy them a lot , because I am a Chinese and I live in China .
By your argument I support oppression , which I do n't , by means of making myself heard whenever possible.It 's just the market at work -- we buy cheap shit ( or put it in another way , we are reasonable enough to keep our demands satisfied with the least expensive goods available ) .
IMHO it sounds pretty un-American to base one 's marketing decisions upon ideological matters like this -- indeed it 's so un-American that I have a compelling reason to call you a terrorist and report your comments to the NSA ; ) You either like it or not , but it 's how things turn out to be working .
I can understand your strong feeling about an oppressive regime ; I just do n't think one 's economy decision could by any means be an indicator of moral integrity.BTW I do n't care that much about English grammar/spellings 'coz I 'm not a native speaker .
Honestly I 'm not very fluent in it .
If you find any grammatical errors in my posts , it means I just did n't bother checking , and that you can mod me down if you like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I buy Chinese productions every damn day and I buy them a lot, because I am a Chinese and I live in China.
By your argument I support oppression, which I don't, by means of making myself heard whenever possible.It's just the market at work -- we buy cheap shit (or put it in another way, we are reasonable enough to keep our demands satisfied with the least expensive goods available).
IMHO it sounds pretty un-American to base one's marketing decisions upon ideological matters like this -- indeed it's so un-American that I have a compelling reason to call you a terrorist and report your comments to the NSA ;) You either like it or not, but it's how things turn out to be working.
I can understand your strong feeling about an oppressive regime; I just don't think one's economy decision could by any means be an indicator of moral integrity.BTW I don't care that much about English grammar/spellings 'coz I'm not a native speaker.
Honestly I'm not very fluent in it.
If you find any grammatical errors in my posts, it means I just didn't bother checking, and that you can mod me down if you like.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183889</id>
	<title>that's unfair</title>
	<author>BitterAndDrunk</author>
	<datestamp>1243963560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My kitty update posts are the most popular on my blog, sometimes even garnering a comment!</htmltext>
<tokenext>My kitty update posts are the most popular on my blog , sometimes even garnering a comment !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My kitty update posts are the most popular on my blog, sometimes even garnering a comment!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182953</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28189461</id>
	<title>Re:Selective Memories</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243944720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your point being? I never heard of these incidents. However, I doubt this page was ever blocked: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco\_Siege" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco\_Siege</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your point being ?
I never heard of these incidents .
However , I doubt this page was ever blocked : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco \ _Siege [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your point being?
I never heard of these incidents.
However, I doubt this page was ever blocked: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco\_Siege [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28193129</id>
	<title>The evil, evil Chinese...</title>
	<author>jandersen</author>
	<datestamp>1244022360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Censure is a bad thing, and stupid too - but I think one has to try to be a little bit more nuanced than simply condemning them for being Chinese and Communists.</p><p>Looking back at the last few decades, I think it is clear that the Chinese government are working towards an ever more open society; but it would be madness just letting go and changing everything overnight. There is a significant part of the population that are against that openness, and whether we or the Chinese government like it or not, it takes a long time to change society. After all, it took us several generations in Europe to go from feudal monarchy to modern democracy, and clever as the Chinese may be, they are not going to be able to make that change overnight. And seeing how they have gone from a closed society to what they are now in about 30 years (~a generation), it should probably take at least 10 years more.</p><p>Just look at what happened in Iraq: Saddam Hussein was a fairly standard dictator and as foul as they come, but society worked. Then the Americans came and ripped out the bad bits, but couldn't replace them with anything - and we all know the horrors and the chaos that followed. Democracy and freedom is something you have to learn; any society has to learn to handle it responsibly, because freedom without responsibility is just chaos.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Censure is a bad thing , and stupid too - but I think one has to try to be a little bit more nuanced than simply condemning them for being Chinese and Communists.Looking back at the last few decades , I think it is clear that the Chinese government are working towards an ever more open society ; but it would be madness just letting go and changing everything overnight .
There is a significant part of the population that are against that openness , and whether we or the Chinese government like it or not , it takes a long time to change society .
After all , it took us several generations in Europe to go from feudal monarchy to modern democracy , and clever as the Chinese may be , they are not going to be able to make that change overnight .
And seeing how they have gone from a closed society to what they are now in about 30 years ( ~ a generation ) , it should probably take at least 10 years more.Just look at what happened in Iraq : Saddam Hussein was a fairly standard dictator and as foul as they come , but society worked .
Then the Americans came and ripped out the bad bits , but could n't replace them with anything - and we all know the horrors and the chaos that followed .
Democracy and freedom is something you have to learn ; any society has to learn to handle it responsibly , because freedom without responsibility is just chaos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Censure is a bad thing, and stupid too - but I think one has to try to be a little bit more nuanced than simply condemning them for being Chinese and Communists.Looking back at the last few decades, I think it is clear that the Chinese government are working towards an ever more open society; but it would be madness just letting go and changing everything overnight.
There is a significant part of the population that are against that openness, and whether we or the Chinese government like it or not, it takes a long time to change society.
After all, it took us several generations in Europe to go from feudal monarchy to modern democracy, and clever as the Chinese may be, they are not going to be able to make that change overnight.
And seeing how they have gone from a closed society to what they are now in about 30 years (~a generation), it should probably take at least 10 years more.Just look at what happened in Iraq: Saddam Hussein was a fairly standard dictator and as foul as they come, but society worked.
Then the Americans came and ripped out the bad bits, but couldn't replace them with anything - and we all know the horrors and the chaos that followed.
Democracy and freedom is something you have to learn; any society has to learn to handle it responsibly, because freedom without responsibility is just chaos.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28186607</id>
	<title>Red Guards</title>
	<author>ardle</author>
	<datestamp>1243975260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Now there are good jobs, the internet (censored) and pop culture, to occupy students.  These werent really around in China 20 years ago.</p></div><p>It's not that surprising that the Chinese government is not in favour of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red\_Guards\_(China)" title="wikipedia.org">youth movements</a> [wikipedia.org] - and in favour of pop culture, to the extent that they allow it.
<br>Crude summary: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural\_revolution" title="wikipedia.org">The Cultural Revolution</a> [wikipedia.org] was a strategy implemented by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao\_Zedong" title="wikipedia.org">Mao Zedong</a> [wikipedia.org], with the help of his wife <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang\_Qing" title="wikipedia.org">Jiang Qing</a> [wikipedia.org] to get his career back on track. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red\_Guards\_(China)" title="wikipedia.org">The Red Guards</a> [wikipedia.org] were recruited from students (I wonder if he got the idea from news reports from the US?) and went around the place with a little red book of Mao quotes. Eventually, Mao had to send in the regular army to help disband the Red Guards. Then he implemented a forced dispersal of "intellectuals" (read "students") to rural areas for the following 10 years or so (to make it harder for them to congregate/communicate).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now there are good jobs , the internet ( censored ) and pop culture , to occupy students .
These werent really around in China 20 years ago.It 's not that surprising that the Chinese government is not in favour of youth movements [ wikipedia.org ] - and in favour of pop culture , to the extent that they allow it .
Crude summary : The Cultural Revolution [ wikipedia.org ] was a strategy implemented by Mao Zedong [ wikipedia.org ] , with the help of his wife Jiang Qing [ wikipedia.org ] to get his career back on track .
The Red Guards [ wikipedia.org ] were recruited from students ( I wonder if he got the idea from news reports from the US ?
) and went around the place with a little red book of Mao quotes .
Eventually , Mao had to send in the regular army to help disband the Red Guards .
Then he implemented a forced dispersal of " intellectuals " ( read " students " ) to rural areas for the following 10 years or so ( to make it harder for them to congregate/communicate ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now there are good jobs, the internet (censored) and pop culture, to occupy students.
These werent really around in China 20 years ago.It's not that surprising that the Chinese government is not in favour of youth movements [wikipedia.org] - and in favour of pop culture, to the extent that they allow it.
Crude summary: The Cultural Revolution [wikipedia.org] was a strategy implemented by Mao Zedong [wikipedia.org], with the help of his wife Jiang Qing [wikipedia.org] to get his career back on track.
The Red Guards [wikipedia.org] were recruited from students (I wonder if he got the idea from news reports from the US?
) and went around the place with a little red book of Mao quotes.
Eventually, Mao had to send in the regular army to help disband the Red Guards.
Then he implemented a forced dispersal of "intellectuals" (read "students") to rural areas for the following 10 years or so (to make it harder for them to congregate/communicate).
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182215</id>
	<title>Like Facebook in Iran During Elections</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243957380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>

Sounds a lot like Facebook being <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle\_east/8069038.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow">blocked during the elections in Iran</a> [bbc.co.uk].  I wonder if banning sites just long enough to restrict the flow of ideas for the season will become more popular/acceptable than perma-bans?  <br> <br>

"Oops, I can't access social sites today<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... must be a "democratic" election coming up!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds a lot like Facebook being blocked during the elections in Iran [ bbc.co.uk ] .
I wonder if banning sites just long enough to restrict the flow of ideas for the season will become more popular/acceptable than perma-bans ?
" Oops , I ca n't access social sites today ... must be a " democratic " election coming up !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>

Sounds a lot like Facebook being blocked during the elections in Iran [bbc.co.uk].
I wonder if banning sites just long enough to restrict the flow of ideas for the season will become more popular/acceptable than perma-bans?
"Oops, I can't access social sites today ... must be a "democratic" election coming up!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183617</id>
	<title>a nusiance</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243962360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Politics aside, the blocks being imposed are somewhat irritating to those who live and work here (I do). For example, blogspot.com has been blocked for the last few days. I have memory of other examples of say, all wordpress sites seeming to become inaccessible. We don't use proxies at work, so it means being unable to share news with all colleagues who don't have their own proxy setup. As a topical example, that puts the google keynote out the window. You'd be surprised how much business related knowledge ends up getting blocked. Most irritating is the 'google sin bin'. Try and use a cached link, and google is blocked from your IP address for around 5 minutes. For a company with a shared proxy server, that gets old, very quickly.<br> <br>

Of course, there is a big commercial incentive to keep the blocks coming. Effectively it provides protectionist support for the Chinese alternatives on the internet[1]. That part I find more concerning, I think. If people here wanted to bypass the great firewall to read no blocked information, they can do so - I get the impression most people aren't really so interested in doing so though. The commercial aspects, however, would seem more sustainable.<br> <br>

[1] <a href="http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2006/05/12/a\_new\_form\_of\_protectionism" title="foreignpolicy.com" rel="nofollow">http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2006/05/12/a\_new\_form\_of\_protectionism</a> [foreignpolicy.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Politics aside , the blocks being imposed are somewhat irritating to those who live and work here ( I do ) .
For example , blogspot.com has been blocked for the last few days .
I have memory of other examples of say , all wordpress sites seeming to become inaccessible .
We do n't use proxies at work , so it means being unable to share news with all colleagues who do n't have their own proxy setup .
As a topical example , that puts the google keynote out the window .
You 'd be surprised how much business related knowledge ends up getting blocked .
Most irritating is the 'google sin bin' .
Try and use a cached link , and google is blocked from your IP address for around 5 minutes .
For a company with a shared proxy server , that gets old , very quickly .
Of course , there is a big commercial incentive to keep the blocks coming .
Effectively it provides protectionist support for the Chinese alternatives on the internet [ 1 ] .
That part I find more concerning , I think .
If people here wanted to bypass the great firewall to read no blocked information , they can do so - I get the impression most people are n't really so interested in doing so though .
The commercial aspects , however , would seem more sustainable .
[ 1 ] http : //blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2006/05/12/a \ _new \ _form \ _of \ _protectionism [ foreignpolicy.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Politics aside, the blocks being imposed are somewhat irritating to those who live and work here (I do).
For example, blogspot.com has been blocked for the last few days.
I have memory of other examples of say, all wordpress sites seeming to become inaccessible.
We don't use proxies at work, so it means being unable to share news with all colleagues who don't have their own proxy setup.
As a topical example, that puts the google keynote out the window.
You'd be surprised how much business related knowledge ends up getting blocked.
Most irritating is the 'google sin bin'.
Try and use a cached link, and google is blocked from your IP address for around 5 minutes.
For a company with a shared proxy server, that gets old, very quickly.
Of course, there is a big commercial incentive to keep the blocks coming.
Effectively it provides protectionist support for the Chinese alternatives on the internet[1].
That part I find more concerning, I think.
If people here wanted to bypass the great firewall to read no blocked information, they can do so - I get the impression most people aren't really so interested in doing so though.
The commercial aspects, however, would seem more sustainable.
[1] http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2006/05/12/a\_new\_form\_of\_protectionism [foreignpolicy.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28185263</id>
	<title>Re:Not High Profile in China....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243969440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think this is necessarily a one-sided effort to hide information from the Chinese people though.  Those sites are popular in the rest of the democratic world and would certainly be used by people in the anniversary celebrations.  By shutting down these sites for a week or whatever, it cuts down on the reporting of these events to people *outside* China.  If they can force everything through the corporate journalists, they can exert a lot more control over what gets reported.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think this is necessarily a one-sided effort to hide information from the Chinese people though .
Those sites are popular in the rest of the democratic world and would certainly be used by people in the anniversary celebrations .
By shutting down these sites for a week or whatever , it cuts down on the reporting of these events to people * outside * China .
If they can force everything through the corporate journalists , they can exert a lot more control over what gets reported .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think this is necessarily a one-sided effort to hide information from the Chinese people though.
Those sites are popular in the rest of the democratic world and would certainly be used by people in the anniversary celebrations.
By shutting down these sites for a week or whatever, it cuts down on the reporting of these events to people *outside* China.
If they can force everything through the corporate journalists, they can exert a lot more control over what gets reported.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28184241</id>
	<title>Re:What are we doing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243965180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually just because people from outside of world buying things from China that makes the difference from korean</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually just because people from outside of world buying things from China that makes the difference from korean</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually just because people from outside of world buying things from China that makes the difference from korean</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182381</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28191481</id>
	<title>Unusual?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243960320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> blocking such high-profile sites is unusual.</p></div> </blockquote><p>You must be new here.  Blocking of high-profile sites happens *all* the time - wikipedia, youtube, blogspot, flickr, bbc - the list goes on and on and on, and has been happening in China since the Internet has been available.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>blocking such high-profile sites is unusual .
You must be new here .
Blocking of high-profile sites happens * all * the time - wikipedia , youtube , blogspot , flickr , bbc - the list goes on and on and on , and has been happening in China since the Internet has been available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> blocking such high-profile sites is unusual.
You must be new here.
Blocking of high-profile sites happens *all* the time - wikipedia, youtube, blogspot, flickr, bbc - the list goes on and on and on, and has been happening in China since the Internet has been available.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182701</id>
	<title>Re:Psychics?</title>
	<author>teh kurisu</author>
	<datestamp>1243959060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was wondering how the Chinese had the foresight to block Twitter back in 1989.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was wondering how the Chinese had the foresight to block Twitter back in 1989 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was wondering how the Chinese had the foresight to block Twitter back in 1989.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182375</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28184055</id>
	<title>Re:Good thing the olympics made them promise!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243964400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oddly, I feel a lot less opressed in China.  When I come back to the USA, I suddenly feel like I'm entering a police state.  When I'm in China, they don't seem to take too much seriously, as long as you aren't causing a scene.  Heck, I even saw someone take a crocodile dundee style knife through airport security.  The screeners just snickered and waved it through.</p><p>They may be a lot more restricted about certain subjects, but it just doesn't come across that way.  Foreigners need to also keep in mind, that in chinese culture, embarassing the government is sometimes taken as an insult to China, and even as an insult to your own family (which is considered very offensive).</p><p>China in reality is one step from anarchy.  People generally do what they feel like, and disregard the police.  There are some things you can't do, but in general, people ignore the law, whether there are police present or not.  As long as nothing really bad is happening, the police do not generally get involved.  My favorite time was when two schoolgirls were beating the crap out of each other and ripping each other's clothes off.  There was a crowd standing around watching, including a policeman, but he didn't step in since nobody seriously got hurt, and apparently he thought it was as entertaining as everyone else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oddly , I feel a lot less opressed in China .
When I come back to the USA , I suddenly feel like I 'm entering a police state .
When I 'm in China , they do n't seem to take too much seriously , as long as you are n't causing a scene .
Heck , I even saw someone take a crocodile dundee style knife through airport security .
The screeners just snickered and waved it through.They may be a lot more restricted about certain subjects , but it just does n't come across that way .
Foreigners need to also keep in mind , that in chinese culture , embarassing the government is sometimes taken as an insult to China , and even as an insult to your own family ( which is considered very offensive ) .China in reality is one step from anarchy .
People generally do what they feel like , and disregard the police .
There are some things you ca n't do , but in general , people ignore the law , whether there are police present or not .
As long as nothing really bad is happening , the police do not generally get involved .
My favorite time was when two schoolgirls were beating the crap out of each other and ripping each other 's clothes off .
There was a crowd standing around watching , including a policeman , but he did n't step in since nobody seriously got hurt , and apparently he thought it was as entertaining as everyone else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oddly, I feel a lot less opressed in China.
When I come back to the USA, I suddenly feel like I'm entering a police state.
When I'm in China, they don't seem to take too much seriously, as long as you aren't causing a scene.
Heck, I even saw someone take a crocodile dundee style knife through airport security.
The screeners just snickered and waved it through.They may be a lot more restricted about certain subjects, but it just doesn't come across that way.
Foreigners need to also keep in mind, that in chinese culture, embarassing the government is sometimes taken as an insult to China, and even as an insult to your own family (which is considered very offensive).China in reality is one step from anarchy.
People generally do what they feel like, and disregard the police.
There are some things you can't do, but in general, people ignore the law, whether there are police present or not.
As long as nothing really bad is happening, the police do not generally get involved.
My favorite time was when two schoolgirls were beating the crap out of each other and ripping each other's clothes off.
There was a crowd standing around watching, including a policeman, but he didn't step in since nobody seriously got hurt, and apparently he thought it was as entertaining as everyone else.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183397</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28186567</id>
	<title>Re:Selective Memories</title>
	<author>wall0159</author>
	<datestamp>1243975080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it's fascinating that you've been moderated "redundant" -- I wonder what went through that person's mind?</p><p>Is criticism of one's government now unpatriotic?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's fascinating that you 've been moderated " redundant " -- I wonder what went through that person 's mind ? Is criticism of one 's government now unpatriotic ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's fascinating that you've been moderated "redundant" -- I wonder what went through that person's mind?Is criticism of one's government now unpatriotic?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183803</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28184403</id>
	<title>Re:Editors, please!</title>
	<author>EkriirkE</author>
	<datestamp>1243965900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was going to say something about kdawson, but I guess I can't just yet....</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was going to say something about kdawson , but I guess I ca n't just yet... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was going to say something about kdawson, but I guess I can't just yet....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182583</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182247</id>
	<title>Rice-Niggers Hate Freedom</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243957500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've long known that rice-niggers hate freedom.</p><p>We just let it slide because they fund the wars that secure access to our oil.</p><p>thanks, rice-niggers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've long known that rice-niggers hate freedom.We just let it slide because they fund the wars that secure access to our oil.thanks , rice-niggers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've long known that rice-niggers hate freedom.We just let it slide because they fund the wars that secure access to our oil.thanks, rice-niggers!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183641</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>Becausegodhasmademe</author>
	<datestamp>1243962420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In a completely unrelated incident, a report published today claims to observe an 80\% rise in productivity of Chinese office workers. Here's Jill with the weather.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In a completely unrelated incident , a report published today claims to observe an 80 \ % rise in productivity of Chinese office workers .
Here 's Jill with the weather .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a completely unrelated incident, a report published today claims to observe an 80\% rise in productivity of Chinese office workers.
Here's Jill with the weather.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28184035</id>
	<title>Re:People must notice the block.</title>
	<author>SailorSpork</author>
	<datestamp>1243964340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Doesn't it draw more attention to it when these sites are blocked.</p> </div><p>You're right! Since when is Bing.com a high-profile website that someone will notice if it's blocked?  Microsoft PR strikes again!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;P</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't it draw more attention to it when these sites are blocked .
You 're right !
Since when is Bing.com a high-profile website that someone will notice if it 's blocked ?
Microsoft PR strikes again !
; P</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Doesn't it draw more attention to it when these sites are blocked.
You're right!
Since when is Bing.com a high-profile website that someone will notice if it's blocked?
Microsoft PR strikes again!
;P
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182349</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28185919</id>
	<title>So Rorry...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243972260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You BING em back now....</htmltext>
<tokenext>You BING em back now... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You BING em back now....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28184011</id>
	<title>Re:Editors, please!</title>
	<author>Rick Bentley</author>
	<datestamp>1243964220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>actually, the summary is good, your post isn't (unless the summary has been changed)<p><div class="quote"><p>"Two days ahead of the 20th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square 'incident,"</p></div><p>.
<br>
"anniversary" IS included in the summary, you edited it out in your false quote above.  "Incident" is also in quotes, drawing question to the word.<br> <br>I'll take new stream media over the old any day.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>actually , the summary is good , your post is n't ( unless the summary has been changed ) " Two days ahead of the 20th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square 'incident , " .
" anniversary " IS included in the summary , you edited it out in your false quote above .
" Incident " is also in quotes , drawing question to the word .
I 'll take new stream media over the old any day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>actually, the summary is good, your post isn't (unless the summary has been changed)"Two days ahead of the 20th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square 'incident,".
"anniversary" IS included in the summary, you edited it out in your false quote above.
"Incident" is also in quotes, drawing question to the word.
I'll take new stream media over the old any day.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182583</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182953</id>
	<title>Re:and nothing of value was lost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243959840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Twitter, like any communications medium, is what you make of it.  You could start a blog and write about nothing other than the cute things your cat did today, you could write about topics of earth-shattering importance, or your blog could fall somewhere in the middle.  You could Twitter about nothing other than the inane details of your life (cue link to the Penny Arcade strip) or you could use Twitter to connect to and keep in touch with a group of people online.  E-mail, web pages, television, etc.  They can all be used for the inane and valueless or for the interesting and full-of-meaning.</p><p>In addition, what is value-less and what is full-of-meaning can vary from person to person.  You might think that your post comparing the captaining styles of "Classic Kirk" vs Picard vs "New Movie Kirk" is great, but others might find it to be a fluff piece written by a fan with nothing better to do.  Someone else might write a post detailing the pros and cons of a new fashion trend and, while they might think it is a valuable thing you share, you might find it meaningless.  One person's trash is another person's treasure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Twitter , like any communications medium , is what you make of it .
You could start a blog and write about nothing other than the cute things your cat did today , you could write about topics of earth-shattering importance , or your blog could fall somewhere in the middle .
You could Twitter about nothing other than the inane details of your life ( cue link to the Penny Arcade strip ) or you could use Twitter to connect to and keep in touch with a group of people online .
E-mail , web pages , television , etc .
They can all be used for the inane and valueless or for the interesting and full-of-meaning.In addition , what is value-less and what is full-of-meaning can vary from person to person .
You might think that your post comparing the captaining styles of " Classic Kirk " vs Picard vs " New Movie Kirk " is great , but others might find it to be a fluff piece written by a fan with nothing better to do .
Someone else might write a post detailing the pros and cons of a new fashion trend and , while they might think it is a valuable thing you share , you might find it meaningless .
One person 's trash is another person 's treasure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Twitter, like any communications medium, is what you make of it.
You could start a blog and write about nothing other than the cute things your cat did today, you could write about topics of earth-shattering importance, or your blog could fall somewhere in the middle.
You could Twitter about nothing other than the inane details of your life (cue link to the Penny Arcade strip) or you could use Twitter to connect to and keep in touch with a group of people online.
E-mail, web pages, television, etc.
They can all be used for the inane and valueless or for the interesting and full-of-meaning.In addition, what is value-less and what is full-of-meaning can vary from person to person.
You might think that your post comparing the captaining styles of "Classic Kirk" vs Picard vs "New Movie Kirk" is great, but others might find it to be a fluff piece written by a fan with nothing better to do.
Someone else might write a post detailing the pros and cons of a new fashion trend and, while they might think it is a valuable thing you share, you might find it meaningless.
One person's trash is another person's treasure.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182309</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182435</id>
	<title>Is this done manually or automated?</title>
	<author>fprintf</author>
	<datestamp>1243958160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is this blocking/unblocking done manually or is it based on an automated set of rules?  I suppose it might be a state secret how the blocking actually works, but I picture a few people sitting in a room updating some configuration files that says "block the following IP address or domain names". Is that how it works?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this blocking/unblocking done manually or is it based on an automated set of rules ?
I suppose it might be a state secret how the blocking actually works , but I picture a few people sitting in a room updating some configuration files that says " block the following IP address or domain names " .
Is that how it works ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this blocking/unblocking done manually or is it based on an automated set of rules?
I suppose it might be a state secret how the blocking actually works, but I picture a few people sitting in a room updating some configuration files that says "block the following IP address or domain names".
Is that how it works?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183007</id>
	<title>Bad Logic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243960080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"We" are not buying products from "fascist dictatorships". Regular businessmen -- Americans, Canadians, Japanese, Germans, etc. -- are buying products from (and selling products to) regular Chinese businessmen. They're not buying from the Chinese state, and they generally don't care what any of this world's authoritarian regimes -- whether Obama's, Jintao's, or someone else's -- are up to so long as they can make an honest living.</p><p>It's highly disingenuous of you to suggest that the Cantonese factories my clients hire to make their products have anything to do with the shmucks in Beijing who are banning Flickr. People are individuals and ought to be treated as such.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" We " are not buying products from " fascist dictatorships " .
Regular businessmen -- Americans , Canadians , Japanese , Germans , etc .
-- are buying products from ( and selling products to ) regular Chinese businessmen .
They 're not buying from the Chinese state , and they generally do n't care what any of this world 's authoritarian regimes -- whether Obama 's , Jintao 's , or someone else 's -- are up to so long as they can make an honest living.It 's highly disingenuous of you to suggest that the Cantonese factories my clients hire to make their products have anything to do with the shmucks in Beijing who are banning Flickr .
People are individuals and ought to be treated as such .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We" are not buying products from "fascist dictatorships".
Regular businessmen -- Americans, Canadians, Japanese, Germans, etc.
-- are buying products from (and selling products to) regular Chinese businessmen.
They're not buying from the Chinese state, and they generally don't care what any of this world's authoritarian regimes -- whether Obama's, Jintao's, or someone else's -- are up to so long as they can make an honest living.It's highly disingenuous of you to suggest that the Cantonese factories my clients hire to make their products have anything to do with the shmucks in Beijing who are banning Flickr.
People are individuals and ought to be treated as such.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182381</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182349</id>
	<title>People must notice the block.</title>
	<author>Script Cat</author>
	<datestamp>1243957860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Doesn't it draw more attention to it when these sites are blocked. The imagination usually fills a vacuum with a bigger more damning picture than reality. If they did nothing it would likely be ignored.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't it draw more attention to it when these sites are blocked .
The imagination usually fills a vacuum with a bigger more damning picture than reality .
If they did nothing it would likely be ignored .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't it draw more attention to it when these sites are blocked.
The imagination usually fills a vacuum with a bigger more damning picture than reality.
If they did nothing it would likely be ignored.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182943</id>
	<title>Re:People must notice the block.</title>
	<author>siloko</author>
	<datestamp>1243959780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>remember this is the instant information age now . .<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.</p></div><p>I suppose by that you mean "don't give a fuck about anyone else but myself" age.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>remember this is the instant information age now .
. .I suppose by that you mean " do n't give a fuck about anyone else but myself " age .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>remember this is the instant information age now .
. .I suppose by that you mean "don't give a fuck about anyone else but myself" age.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183245</id>
	<title>Not High Profile in China....</title>
	<author>vampire\_baozi</author>
	<datestamp>1243960860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, almost no Chinese use those sites.  Twitter doesn't even have a Chinese language version, and has barely begun to grow in China (though it may, there are already several Chinese clonewares out).  Nobody ANYWHERE in the world uses Bing, and the Chinese use QQ, Sohu, Xinlang, or other IM/Portal/Blogging services instead of Live/Blogspot. Flickr is the only one Chinese might even notice, and there are plenty of alternatives.</p><p>The only Chinese that use these (now blocked) services are educated, and probably have decent English, and know how to get around these blocks.  The vast majority of Chinese users use other websites, or have alternatives.  The contrversial stuff has always been hosted on non-Chinese websites for obvious reasons, and people who want to see it are well aware of how to get around the blocks.</p><p>Far more telling was the 7 hours of downtime Xiaonei went through yesterday for maintanence.  They've already been shutting down certain Xiaonei groups and blocking users for doing political stuff, I wonder if the maintanence included any updates to help with censorship?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , almost no Chinese use those sites .
Twitter does n't even have a Chinese language version , and has barely begun to grow in China ( though it may , there are already several Chinese clonewares out ) .
Nobody ANYWHERE in the world uses Bing , and the Chinese use QQ , Sohu , Xinlang , or other IM/Portal/Blogging services instead of Live/Blogspot .
Flickr is the only one Chinese might even notice , and there are plenty of alternatives.The only Chinese that use these ( now blocked ) services are educated , and probably have decent English , and know how to get around these blocks .
The vast majority of Chinese users use other websites , or have alternatives .
The contrversial stuff has always been hosted on non-Chinese websites for obvious reasons , and people who want to see it are well aware of how to get around the blocks.Far more telling was the 7 hours of downtime Xiaonei went through yesterday for maintanence .
They 've already been shutting down certain Xiaonei groups and blocking users for doing political stuff , I wonder if the maintanence included any updates to help with censorship ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, almost no Chinese use those sites.
Twitter doesn't even have a Chinese language version, and has barely begun to grow in China (though it may, there are already several Chinese clonewares out).
Nobody ANYWHERE in the world uses Bing, and the Chinese use QQ, Sohu, Xinlang, or other IM/Portal/Blogging services instead of Live/Blogspot.
Flickr is the only one Chinese might even notice, and there are plenty of alternatives.The only Chinese that use these (now blocked) services are educated, and probably have decent English, and know how to get around these blocks.
The vast majority of Chinese users use other websites, or have alternatives.
The contrversial stuff has always been hosted on non-Chinese websites for obvious reasons, and people who want to see it are well aware of how to get around the blocks.Far more telling was the 7 hours of downtime Xiaonei went through yesterday for maintanence.
They've already been shutting down certain Xiaonei groups and blocking users for doing political stuff, I wonder if the maintanence included any updates to help with censorship?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182999</id>
	<title>Re:What are we doing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243960020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://ceoworld.biz/ceo/2009/06/02/inside-scoop-to-gm-bankruptcy-deal/" title="ceoworld.biz" rel="nofollow">Apparently, after the bankruptcy, GM will be making cars in China...</a> [ceoworld.biz]</p><p>I'm not really looking forward to that, I'm not sure why the government decided to waste all our taxpayer money on GM if they knew they were just planning to send most of the jobs to China.  But I guess some extremely rich people won't lose as much money as they were going to originally, which makes me feel just swell.</p><p>I guess the people in charge of this, like our car czar, figured that that was what people were concerned about, that some well-heeled bondholders would have to take a haircut.  Otherwise, it's kind of baffling from a political standpoint.</p><p>Except in the "after we retire from politics we'll all be rich, rich, rich! And what are you going to do about it, vote Republican, mwahahahaha!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently , after the bankruptcy , GM will be making cars in China... [ ceoworld.biz ] I 'm not really looking forward to that , I 'm not sure why the government decided to waste all our taxpayer money on GM if they knew they were just planning to send most of the jobs to China .
But I guess some extremely rich people wo n't lose as much money as they were going to originally , which makes me feel just swell.I guess the people in charge of this , like our car czar , figured that that was what people were concerned about , that some well-heeled bondholders would have to take a haircut .
Otherwise , it 's kind of baffling from a political standpoint.Except in the " after we retire from politics we 'll all be rich , rich , rich !
And what are you going to do about it , vote Republican , mwahahahaha !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently, after the bankruptcy, GM will be making cars in China... [ceoworld.biz]I'm not really looking forward to that, I'm not sure why the government decided to waste all our taxpayer money on GM if they knew they were just planning to send most of the jobs to China.
But I guess some extremely rich people won't lose as much money as they were going to originally, which makes me feel just swell.I guess the people in charge of this, like our car czar, figured that that was what people were concerned about, that some well-heeled bondholders would have to take a haircut.
Otherwise, it's kind of baffling from a political standpoint.Except in the "after we retire from politics we'll all be rich, rich, rich!
And what are you going to do about it, vote Republican, mwahahahaha!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28186823</id>
	<title>Re:Editors, please!</title>
	<author>Xtifr</author>
	<datestamp>1243976160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the overall quality of journalism seems to be declining on a daily basis</p></div><p>Re-he-he-ealy!?  So you're suggesting that the quality was higher at some point in the past?  I must have missed that day.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Of course, the summary appears to have been corrected (assuming it was wrong in the first place, which isn't much of a stretch); that's is actually pretty impressive for this site.  Slashdot has links to fascinating things at times, but it's always been an overgrown teenage nerd blog, despite the fact that the founders are no longer <em>technically</em> teenagers.  On the few occasions when they've actually been forced to address the quality of the "editing", they've shown a sort of misplaced pride in their incompetence, somehow feeling that the misspelling and misreporting adds more of a geeky feel to the place (something that many geeky people, including me, find highly offensive).  So, Slashdot's a mixed bag, makes me grit my teeth and pound my head on occasion, but continues to have enough entertainment value that I keep coming back despite the constant, on-going embarrassing gaffes.  BUT!  I've been here for <i>mumble</i> years, and I've seen no evidence that it's getting worse, on a daily, weekly or yearly basis.  It's always been this bad, dude.  Just face it: like me, this is an embarrassing guilty pleasure, and you're never going away.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
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<tokenext>the overall quality of journalism seems to be declining on a daily basisRe-he-he-ealy ! ?
So you 're suggesting that the quality was higher at some point in the past ?
I must have missed that day .
: ) Of course , the summary appears to have been corrected ( assuming it was wrong in the first place , which is n't much of a stretch ) ; that 's is actually pretty impressive for this site .
Slashdot has links to fascinating things at times , but it 's always been an overgrown teenage nerd blog , despite the fact that the founders are no longer technically teenagers .
On the few occasions when they 've actually been forced to address the quality of the " editing " , they 've shown a sort of misplaced pride in their incompetence , somehow feeling that the misspelling and misreporting adds more of a geeky feel to the place ( something that many geeky people , including me , find highly offensive ) .
So , Slashdot 's a mixed bag , makes me grit my teeth and pound my head on occasion , but continues to have enough entertainment value that I keep coming back despite the constant , on-going embarrassing gaffes .
BUT ! I 've been here for mumble years , and I 've seen no evidence that it 's getting worse , on a daily , weekly or yearly basis .
It 's always been this bad , dude .
Just face it : like me , this is an embarrassing guilty pleasure , and you 're never going away .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the overall quality of journalism seems to be declining on a daily basisRe-he-he-ealy!?
So you're suggesting that the quality was higher at some point in the past?
I must have missed that day.
:)Of course, the summary appears to have been corrected (assuming it was wrong in the first place, which isn't much of a stretch); that's is actually pretty impressive for this site.
Slashdot has links to fascinating things at times, but it's always been an overgrown teenage nerd blog, despite the fact that the founders are no longer technically teenagers.
On the few occasions when they've actually been forced to address the quality of the "editing", they've shown a sort of misplaced pride in their incompetence, somehow feeling that the misspelling and misreporting adds more of a geeky feel to the place (something that many geeky people, including me, find highly offensive).
So, Slashdot's a mixed bag, makes me grit my teeth and pound my head on occasion, but continues to have enough entertainment value that I keep coming back despite the constant, on-going embarrassing gaffes.
BUT!  I've been here for mumble years, and I've seen no evidence that it's getting worse, on a daily, weekly or yearly basis.
It's always been this bad, dude.
Just face it: like me, this is an embarrassing guilty pleasure, and you're never going away.
:)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28188357</id>
	<title>Incident - Massacre</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243939320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why is everyone calling what happened in Tienanmen Square an 'incident'?  It was a MASSACRE!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is everyone calling what happened in Tienanmen Square an 'incident ' ?
It was a MASSACRE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is everyone calling what happened in Tienanmen Square an 'incident'?
It was a MASSACRE!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183903</id>
	<title>Re:More widespread?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243963620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, I'll shut that trojan down. I thought you weren't home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , I 'll shut that trojan down .
I thought you were n't home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, I'll shut that trojan down.
I thought you weren't home.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183519</id>
	<title>Re:What are we doing?</title>
	<author>jcr</author>
	<datestamp>1243961880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships? </i></p><p>We aren't.  We're buying products made by businesses in China, which are not the government of China.</p><p>Embargoes strengthen criminal regimes.  Trade reduces their power.</p><p>-jcr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships ?
We are n't .
We 're buying products made by businesses in China , which are not the government of China.Embargoes strengthen criminal regimes .
Trade reduces their power.-jcr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships?
We aren't.
We're buying products made by businesses in China, which are not the government of China.Embargoes strengthen criminal regimes.
Trade reduces their power.-jcr</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182347</id>
	<title>Internet blocks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243957860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"While Internet blocks in mainland China, blocking such high profile sites is unusual" seems rather incomprehensible. Maybe it was an attempt at In Soviet Russia...</htmltext>
<tokenext>" While Internet blocks in mainland China , blocking such high profile sites is unusual " seems rather incomprehensible .
Maybe it was an attempt at In Soviet Russia.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"While Internet blocks in mainland China, blocking such high profile sites is unusual" seems rather incomprehensible.
Maybe it was an attempt at In Soviet Russia...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28185525</id>
	<title>... and nothing of value was lost</title>
	<author>teneighty</author>
	<datestamp>1243970520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... and nothing of value was lost.</p><p>(Ok I was only talking about Hotmail and Twitter, but if we had to lose Flickr in order to get rid of Twitter, well, I don't know about you, but I would be tempted!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... and nothing of value was lost .
( Ok I was only talking about Hotmail and Twitter , but if we had to lose Flickr in order to get rid of Twitter , well , I do n't know about you , but I would be tempted !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... and nothing of value was lost.
(Ok I was only talking about Hotmail and Twitter, but if we had to lose Flickr in order to get rid of Twitter, well, I don't know about you, but I would be tempted!
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28187891</id>
	<title>Re:Editors, please!</title>
	<author>curmudgeous</author>
	<datestamp>1243937220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A couple people on here have suggested I was in error when I flamed the original posting so I went digging for the original summary.  Here it is verbatim:

<br> <br> <b>
An anonymous reader writes "Two days ahead of the Tiananmen Square 'incident' several high profile Internet sites have been blocked in mainland China, these include Twitter.com, Flickr.com, Live.com, and Bing.com. While Internet blocks in mainland China, blocking such high profile sites is unusual. In addition, blog reports suggest even state-owned television broadcasts are suffering multiple instances of muting lasting several seconds (again, not unusual for some foreign stations broadcast over cable, but unusual for local state-owned media) suggesting state security, online or through other technology, has tightened significantly, perhaps in anticipation or discovery of protest plans."
</b> <br> <br>

and link is here:  <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/firehose.pl?id=4715073&amp;op=view" title="slashdot.org">http://yro.slashdot.org/firehose.pl?id=4715073&amp;op=view</a> [slashdot.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>A couple people on here have suggested I was in error when I flamed the original posting so I went digging for the original summary .
Here it is verbatim : An anonymous reader writes " Two days ahead of the Tiananmen Square 'incident ' several high profile Internet sites have been blocked in mainland China , these include Twitter.com , Flickr.com , Live.com , and Bing.com .
While Internet blocks in mainland China , blocking such high profile sites is unusual .
In addition , blog reports suggest even state-owned television broadcasts are suffering multiple instances of muting lasting several seconds ( again , not unusual for some foreign stations broadcast over cable , but unusual for local state-owned media ) suggesting state security , online or through other technology , has tightened significantly , perhaps in anticipation or discovery of protest plans .
" and link is here : http : //yro.slashdot.org/firehose.pl ? id = 4715073&amp;op = view [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A couple people on here have suggested I was in error when I flamed the original posting so I went digging for the original summary.
Here it is verbatim:

  
An anonymous reader writes "Two days ahead of the Tiananmen Square 'incident' several high profile Internet sites have been blocked in mainland China, these include Twitter.com, Flickr.com, Live.com, and Bing.com.
While Internet blocks in mainland China, blocking such high profile sites is unusual.
In addition, blog reports suggest even state-owned television broadcasts are suffering multiple instances of muting lasting several seconds (again, not unusual for some foreign stations broadcast over cable, but unusual for local state-owned media) suggesting state security, online or through other technology, has tightened significantly, perhaps in anticipation or discovery of protest plans.
"
  

and link is here:  http://yro.slashdot.org/firehose.pl?id=4715073&amp;op=view [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182545</id>
	<title>unusual, maybe...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243958520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Surprising.. no.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surprising.. no .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surprising.. no.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28184899</id>
	<title>Re:What are we doing?</title>
	<author>Walles</author>
	<datestamp>1243967880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships?</p></div><p>s/fascist/<a href="http://english.cpc.people.com.cn/" title="people.com.cn" rel="nofollow">communist</a> [people.com.cn]/</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships ? s/fascist/communist [ people.com.cn ] /</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships?s/fascist/communist [people.com.cn]/
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182721</id>
	<title>you're right and wrong</title>
	<author>damn\_registrars</author>
	<datestamp>1243959120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships?</p></div><p>
Part of the answer to your first question is also availability.  There are some markets where the Chinese goods have such a lock on production that it is nearly impossible to <b>not</b> buy something made in China.<br> <br>
Sure, you can buy a Chinese made widget for less than an American made widget almost without exception.  However, there are times when no amount of money will buy a non-Chinese widget because no such item exists.<br> <br>
Furthermore, your statement </p><p><div class="quote"><p>products of these fascist dictatoriships</p></div><p>
Is itself an absurd over-simplification of the situation.  Just because a product is made in China does not mean it inherently supports the Chinese government.  Sure, taxes are (generally) paid but your $.99 widget almost certainly profits a greedy western capitalist much more than the Chinese government.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>if you buy Chinese goods, you support oppression</p></div><p>
Not always true.  As I said, there are times that you don't have a choice in the matter.  Sometimes the only way to purchase the item you need for whatever task is at hand is to purchase a Chinese made version of it.  If you don't believe me then take a look through the tool section of your favorite home improvement / hardware / discount / general merchandise store.  There are some items that if you need them today, you have no choice but to buy Chinese - and if your choice is to buy Chinese or allow your basement to flood with water, I have a suspicion on which way you will likely choose.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships ?
Part of the answer to your first question is also availability .
There are some markets where the Chinese goods have such a lock on production that it is nearly impossible to not buy something made in China .
Sure , you can buy a Chinese made widget for less than an American made widget almost without exception .
However , there are times when no amount of money will buy a non-Chinese widget because no such item exists .
Furthermore , your statement products of these fascist dictatoriships Is itself an absurd over-simplification of the situation .
Just because a product is made in China does not mean it inherently supports the Chinese government .
Sure , taxes are ( generally ) paid but your $ .99 widget almost certainly profits a greedy western capitalist much more than the Chinese government.if you buy Chinese goods , you support oppression Not always true .
As I said , there are times that you do n't have a choice in the matter .
Sometimes the only way to purchase the item you need for whatever task is at hand is to purchase a Chinese made version of it .
If you do n't believe me then take a look through the tool section of your favorite home improvement / hardware / discount / general merchandise store .
There are some items that if you need them today , you have no choice but to buy Chinese - and if your choice is to buy Chinese or allow your basement to flood with water , I have a suspicion on which way you will likely choose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships?
Part of the answer to your first question is also availability.
There are some markets where the Chinese goods have such a lock on production that it is nearly impossible to not buy something made in China.
Sure, you can buy a Chinese made widget for less than an American made widget almost without exception.
However, there are times when no amount of money will buy a non-Chinese widget because no such item exists.
Furthermore, your statement products of these fascist dictatoriships
Is itself an absurd over-simplification of the situation.
Just because a product is made in China does not mean it inherently supports the Chinese government.
Sure, taxes are (generally) paid but your $.99 widget almost certainly profits a greedy western capitalist much more than the Chinese government.if you buy Chinese goods, you support oppression
Not always true.
As I said, there are times that you don't have a choice in the matter.
Sometimes the only way to purchase the item you need for whatever task is at hand is to purchase a Chinese made version of it.
If you don't believe me then take a look through the tool section of your favorite home improvement / hardware / discount / general merchandise store.
There are some items that if you need them today, you have no choice but to buy Chinese - and if your choice is to buy Chinese or allow your basement to flood with water, I have a suspicion on which way you will likely choose.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183969</id>
	<title>Re:More widespread?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243964040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's probably just the government testing out a man in the middle attack, to increase the effectiveness of their electronic snooping.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's probably just the government testing out a man in the middle attack , to increase the effectiveness of their electronic snooping .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's probably just the government testing out a man in the middle attack, to increase the effectiveness of their electronic snooping.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183803</id>
	<title>Selective Memories</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243963200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, we all think it's terrible that the majority of the youth in China don't even know about the Tianamen Square "incident"</p><p>But within America itself, how many of you know of, or recognise the following incidents?</p><p>1) US Government (ATF/FBI) burns to death 76 people in their homes, and the FBI lies about it for six years, when it finally comes clean. No one is ever held accountable.</p><p>2) 4 plain-clothed officers shoot an unarmed man standing in his doorway. They shoot a total of 41 times. He is hit 19 times. After the officers are convicted, the court orders them re-tried, and the second time around they are all acquitted.</p><p>3) Unarmed students at an anti-war protest, are shot at by the National Guard. 4 die, 9 are injured. Again, no accountability. No convictions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , we all think it 's terrible that the majority of the youth in China do n't even know about the Tianamen Square " incident " But within America itself , how many of you know of , or recognise the following incidents ? 1 ) US Government ( ATF/FBI ) burns to death 76 people in their homes , and the FBI lies about it for six years , when it finally comes clean .
No one is ever held accountable.2 ) 4 plain-clothed officers shoot an unarmed man standing in his doorway .
They shoot a total of 41 times .
He is hit 19 times .
After the officers are convicted , the court orders them re-tried , and the second time around they are all acquitted.3 ) Unarmed students at an anti-war protest , are shot at by the National Guard .
4 die , 9 are injured .
Again , no accountability .
No convictions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, we all think it's terrible that the majority of the youth in China don't even know about the Tianamen Square "incident"But within America itself, how many of you know of, or recognise the following incidents?1) US Government (ATF/FBI) burns to death 76 people in their homes, and the FBI lies about it for six years, when it finally comes clean.
No one is ever held accountable.2) 4 plain-clothed officers shoot an unarmed man standing in his doorway.
They shoot a total of 41 times.
He is hit 19 times.
After the officers are convicted, the court orders them re-tried, and the second time around they are all acquitted.3) Unarmed students at an anti-war protest, are shot at by the National Guard.
4 die, 9 are injured.
Again, no accountability.
No convictions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182661</id>
	<title>The Ministry of Silly Names</title>
	<author>someyob</author>
	<datestamp>1243958940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>has decided China doesn't need any stinking imperialist silly names.</htmltext>
<tokenext>has decided China does n't need any stinking imperialist silly names .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>has decided China doesn't need any stinking imperialist silly names.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28184559</id>
	<title>/MARE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243966440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Member.  GNNA (GAY</htmltext>
<tokenext>Member .
GNNA ( GAY</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Member.
GNNA (GAY</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182375</id>
	<title>Psychics?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243957980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Two days ahead of the Tiananmen Square 'incident'</p></div><p>
Glad we can reliably see into the future now<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Two days ahead of the Tiananmen Square 'incident ' Glad we can reliably see into the future now ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two days ahead of the Tiananmen Square 'incident'
Glad we can reliably see into the future now ;)
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183739</id>
	<title>BT throttles entire Internet worldwide</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243962840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <b>GRASS MUD HORSE, Tiananmen,</b> Tuesday (NNN) &mdash; BT, Britain's biggest broadband supplier, has thoughtfully averted complete congestion of the Internet by <a href="http://notnews.today.com/2009/06/02/bt-throttles-entire-internet-worldwide/" title="today.com">throttling all use of the Internet</a> [today.com] on its cheapest broadband package.

</p><p>Customers on the <i>I Can't Believe It's Eight Megabits</i> package have all Internet data flow cut off entirely under its "fair use" clause during "peak periods," defined as being between the hours of 12:00 midnight and 11:59pm. "However," said a customer service telephone voice menu, "the connection itself runs at the full eight megabits. That we guarantee absolutely."

</p><p>BT has recently sold the technology to China, where it was put into operation toda, blocking Twitter, Blogger, Microsoft Bob Hope and the live webcam of the coffee pot at Cambridge University. "We will not put up with the drop in productivity social networking sites cause," said a spokesrivercrab. "After the terrible onslaught of blue screens at the Olympics, we will stop at nothing to protect patriotic citizens from the influence of Microsoft. And they love us for it. Just find one who doesn't!"

</p><p>"Besides," said the BT phone menu, "we're still better than Virgin. A high bar to aim for, I know. You get so much better fail whales over a phone line than a cable."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GRASS MUD HORSE , Tiananmen , Tuesday ( NNN )    BT , Britain 's biggest broadband supplier , has thoughtfully averted complete congestion of the Internet by throttling all use of the Internet [ today.com ] on its cheapest broadband package .
Customers on the I Ca n't Believe It 's Eight Megabits package have all Internet data flow cut off entirely under its " fair use " clause during " peak periods , " defined as being between the hours of 12 : 00 midnight and 11 : 59pm .
" However , " said a customer service telephone voice menu , " the connection itself runs at the full eight megabits .
That we guarantee absolutely .
" BT has recently sold the technology to China , where it was put into operation toda , blocking Twitter , Blogger , Microsoft Bob Hope and the live webcam of the coffee pot at Cambridge University .
" We will not put up with the drop in productivity social networking sites cause , " said a spokesrivercrab .
" After the terrible onslaught of blue screens at the Olympics , we will stop at nothing to protect patriotic citizens from the influence of Microsoft .
And they love us for it .
Just find one who does n't !
" " Besides , " said the BT phone menu , " we 're still better than Virgin .
A high bar to aim for , I know .
You get so much better fail whales over a phone line than a cable .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext> GRASS MUD HORSE, Tiananmen, Tuesday (NNN) — BT, Britain's biggest broadband supplier, has thoughtfully averted complete congestion of the Internet by throttling all use of the Internet [today.com] on its cheapest broadband package.
Customers on the I Can't Believe It's Eight Megabits package have all Internet data flow cut off entirely under its "fair use" clause during "peak periods," defined as being between the hours of 12:00 midnight and 11:59pm.
"However," said a customer service telephone voice menu, "the connection itself runs at the full eight megabits.
That we guarantee absolutely.
"

BT has recently sold the technology to China, where it was put into operation toda, blocking Twitter, Blogger, Microsoft Bob Hope and the live webcam of the coffee pot at Cambridge University.
"We will not put up with the drop in productivity social networking sites cause," said a spokesrivercrab.
"After the terrible onslaught of blue screens at the Olympics, we will stop at nothing to protect patriotic citizens from the influence of Microsoft.
And they love us for it.
Just find one who doesn't!
"

"Besides," said the BT phone menu, "we're still better than Virgin.
A high bar to aim for, I know.
You get so much better fail whales over a phone line than a cable.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182429</id>
	<title>Seriously.</title>
	<author>Drakkenmensch</author>
	<datestamp>1243958100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Freedom of expression on the net is a very dangerous thing. If you don't tighly rein in and control social websites, your population starts getting the impression that they don't need a benevolent communist overlord to tighly rein in and control them. We can't have <i>that</i> now, can we?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Freedom of expression on the net is a very dangerous thing .
If you do n't tighly rein in and control social websites , your population starts getting the impression that they do n't need a benevolent communist overlord to tighly rein in and control them .
We ca n't have that now , can we ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freedom of expression on the net is a very dangerous thing.
If you don't tighly rein in and control social websites, your population starts getting the impression that they don't need a benevolent communist overlord to tighly rein in and control them.
We can't have that now, can we?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182875</id>
	<title>Blogspot has been blocked for 2 weeks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243959540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My folks are over there for a year and haven't been able to post on their blog the last 2 weeks. I think they said that YouTube has been blocked since March.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My folks are over there for a year and have n't been able to post on their blog the last 2 weeks .
I think they said that YouTube has been blocked since March .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My folks are over there for a year and haven't been able to post on their blog the last 2 weeks.
I think they said that YouTube has been blocked since March.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28186517</id>
	<title>no surprise</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243974840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"blocked in China" what else is new</htmltext>
<tokenext>" blocked in China " what else is new</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"blocked in China" what else is new</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182487</id>
	<title>Communism...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243958340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>God help us! Now their productivity will double and everything will become cheaper as China takes over the world!</p><p>One a more serious note, I'd think that in a communist framework, it would be reasonable to restrict sites that drain significant amounts of time from your life. The Chinese govt. simply thinks that the benefits are outweighed by the drop in productivity due to social networking sites.</p><p>Although I am against censorship, this is a cultural thing. I can imagine how shocked people in some societies would be to find out that pornography is covered by free speech in the USA.</p><p>Cheers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>God help us !
Now their productivity will double and everything will become cheaper as China takes over the world ! One a more serious note , I 'd think that in a communist framework , it would be reasonable to restrict sites that drain significant amounts of time from your life .
The Chinese govt .
simply thinks that the benefits are outweighed by the drop in productivity due to social networking sites.Although I am against censorship , this is a cultural thing .
I can imagine how shocked people in some societies would be to find out that pornography is covered by free speech in the USA.Cheers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>God help us!
Now their productivity will double and everything will become cheaper as China takes over the world!One a more serious note, I'd think that in a communist framework, it would be reasonable to restrict sites that drain significant amounts of time from your life.
The Chinese govt.
simply thinks that the benefits are outweighed by the drop in productivity due to social networking sites.Although I am against censorship, this is a cultural thing.
I can imagine how shocked people in some societies would be to find out that pornography is covered by free speech in the USA.Cheers!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183191</id>
	<title>Re:and nothing of value was lost</title>
	<author>causality</author>
	<datestamp>1243960740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>witter, like any communications medium, is what you make of it.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Twitter isn't a communications medium.  The Web is the communications medium.  Twitter just prepackages it for you, and you can have any color you want so long as that color is black (i.e. like the first cars).</p><blockquote><div><p>You could start a blog and write about nothing other than the cute things your cat did today, you could write about topics of earth-shattering importance, or your blog could fall somewhere in the middle. You could Twitter about nothing other than the inane details of your life (cue link to the Penny Arcade strip) or you could use Twitter to connect to and keep in touch with a group of people online. E-mail, web pages, television, etc. They can all be used for the inane and valueless or for the interesting and full-of-meaning.</p></div></blockquote><p>
You can do all of that without Twitter.  Again you are describing the Web.  Twitter just provides a one-size-fits-all way to go about it.  That, and only that, is what some people dislike about it.
<br> <br>
The rest of your post is more of the "all things are equal and just a matter of taste, even if they're not" that someone chimes in and rewrites in one form or another anytime there is any sort of discussion where someone actually stands up and says "no, I think this sucks."  It's cute and all but it's not terribly productive.  It is just a way of saying "people have different preferences" and since we knew that already, it doesn't really contribute anything.  What it does do is make you look like a nice person who just wants to get along, which is cool, but nice people don't have to be so atrociously bland; they can have opinions too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>witter , like any communications medium , is what you make of it .
Twitter is n't a communications medium .
The Web is the communications medium .
Twitter just prepackages it for you , and you can have any color you want so long as that color is black ( i.e .
like the first cars ) .You could start a blog and write about nothing other than the cute things your cat did today , you could write about topics of earth-shattering importance , or your blog could fall somewhere in the middle .
You could Twitter about nothing other than the inane details of your life ( cue link to the Penny Arcade strip ) or you could use Twitter to connect to and keep in touch with a group of people online .
E-mail , web pages , television , etc .
They can all be used for the inane and valueless or for the interesting and full-of-meaning .
You can do all of that without Twitter .
Again you are describing the Web .
Twitter just provides a one-size-fits-all way to go about it .
That , and only that , is what some people dislike about it .
The rest of your post is more of the " all things are equal and just a matter of taste , even if they 're not " that someone chimes in and rewrites in one form or another anytime there is any sort of discussion where someone actually stands up and says " no , I think this sucks .
" It 's cute and all but it 's not terribly productive .
It is just a way of saying " people have different preferences " and since we knew that already , it does n't really contribute anything .
What it does do is make you look like a nice person who just wants to get along , which is cool , but nice people do n't have to be so atrociously bland ; they can have opinions too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>witter, like any communications medium, is what you make of it.
Twitter isn't a communications medium.
The Web is the communications medium.
Twitter just prepackages it for you, and you can have any color you want so long as that color is black (i.e.
like the first cars).You could start a blog and write about nothing other than the cute things your cat did today, you could write about topics of earth-shattering importance, or your blog could fall somewhere in the middle.
You could Twitter about nothing other than the inane details of your life (cue link to the Penny Arcade strip) or you could use Twitter to connect to and keep in touch with a group of people online.
E-mail, web pages, television, etc.
They can all be used for the inane and valueless or for the interesting and full-of-meaning.
You can do all of that without Twitter.
Again you are describing the Web.
Twitter just provides a one-size-fits-all way to go about it.
That, and only that, is what some people dislike about it.
The rest of your post is more of the "all things are equal and just a matter of taste, even if they're not" that someone chimes in and rewrites in one form or another anytime there is any sort of discussion where someone actually stands up and says "no, I think this sucks.
"  It's cute and all but it's not terribly productive.
It is just a way of saying "people have different preferences" and since we knew that already, it doesn't really contribute anything.
What it does do is make you look like a nice person who just wants to get along, which is cool, but nice people don't have to be so atrociously bland; they can have opinions too.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182953</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28193597</id>
	<title>Re:Selective Memories</title>
	<author>geekymachoman</author>
	<datestamp>1244029320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>4) US Government attack they own country on 9/11 to induce fear and to get approval of citizens to attack other country's, so that they can conquest, steal, build pipelines from caspian sea, kill hundreds of innocent children by cluster bombs, drop off humanitarian packets together with mentioned bombs, which looks exactly alike, so they can blow up in "parts" little hungry children.</p><p>Bush is not convicted of anything, of one murder... he commited thousands of murders, genocide... Obama, war on terror ? Yeah, right. You gotta be stupider then George Bush to believe that shit. Now you have war in afghanistan. The same politics is continuing. Your entire government should be publicly hanged for the horrors and masacres they commited, and YOU people, are so ignorant of these things, that you say ohh.. great, im an american, stupid communists and shit, i live in a land of FREEDOM. You still believe that ? Ok, think about that again every half year. It's measurable - how much "freedom" you have, and it's going downhill. Just thought on censorship and repression in your country. Every few days there's a news here about that.</p><p>You started exchanging your freedom for false sense of security after 9/11, that was the point of it. For you to give away your freedom and your opinions, and to let "them sort it out".</p><p>Look at what your Government do:<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation\_Northwoods" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation\_Northwoods</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>This is not a flamebait, but these fucking bastards that are shitting on other country's all the time and regimes, and thinking that they are free and that they live in "democracy" and stupid ignorant facts like that, are going on my nerves already, and someone needs to say this, cuz cnn certainly won't, and neither are any of you, because you are so bullshitted that you can't (apparently) see whats in front of your nose anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>4 ) US Government attack they own country on 9/11 to induce fear and to get approval of citizens to attack other country 's , so that they can conquest , steal , build pipelines from caspian sea , kill hundreds of innocent children by cluster bombs , drop off humanitarian packets together with mentioned bombs , which looks exactly alike , so they can blow up in " parts " little hungry children.Bush is not convicted of anything , of one murder... he commited thousands of murders , genocide... Obama , war on terror ?
Yeah , right .
You got ta be stupider then George Bush to believe that shit .
Now you have war in afghanistan .
The same politics is continuing .
Your entire government should be publicly hanged for the horrors and masacres they commited , and YOU people , are so ignorant of these things , that you say ohh.. great , im an american , stupid communists and shit , i live in a land of FREEDOM .
You still believe that ?
Ok , think about that again every half year .
It 's measurable - how much " freedom " you have , and it 's going downhill .
Just thought on censorship and repression in your country .
Every few days there 's a news here about that.You started exchanging your freedom for false sense of security after 9/11 , that was the point of it .
For you to give away your freedom and your opinions , and to let " them sort it out " .Look at what your Government do : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation \ _Northwoods [ wikipedia.org ] This is not a flamebait , but these fucking bastards that are shitting on other country 's all the time and regimes , and thinking that they are free and that they live in " democracy " and stupid ignorant facts like that , are going on my nerves already , and someone needs to say this , cuz cnn certainly wo n't , and neither are any of you , because you are so bullshitted that you ca n't ( apparently ) see whats in front of your nose anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4) US Government attack they own country on 9/11 to induce fear and to get approval of citizens to attack other country's, so that they can conquest, steal, build pipelines from caspian sea, kill hundreds of innocent children by cluster bombs, drop off humanitarian packets together with mentioned bombs, which looks exactly alike, so they can blow up in "parts" little hungry children.Bush is not convicted of anything, of one murder... he commited thousands of murders, genocide... Obama, war on terror ?
Yeah, right.
You gotta be stupider then George Bush to believe that shit.
Now you have war in afghanistan.
The same politics is continuing.
Your entire government should be publicly hanged for the horrors and masacres they commited, and YOU people, are so ignorant of these things, that you say ohh.. great, im an american, stupid communists and shit, i live in a land of FREEDOM.
You still believe that ?
Ok, think about that again every half year.
It's measurable - how much "freedom" you have, and it's going downhill.
Just thought on censorship and repression in your country.
Every few days there's a news here about that.You started exchanging your freedom for false sense of security after 9/11, that was the point of it.
For you to give away your freedom and your opinions, and to let "them sort it out".Look at what your Government do:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation\_Northwoods [wikipedia.org]This is not a flamebait, but these fucking bastards that are shitting on other country's all the time and regimes, and thinking that they are free and that they live in "democracy" and stupid ignorant facts like that, are going on my nerves already, and someone needs to say this, cuz cnn certainly won't, and neither are any of you, because you are so bullshitted that you can't (apparently) see whats in front of your nose anymore.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183803</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182287</id>
	<title>More widespread?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243957680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am in the UK but currently experiencing disruption to some HTTPS sites.  I wonder there is something more widespread going on?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am in the UK but currently experiencing disruption to some HTTPS sites .
I wonder there is something more widespread going on ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am in the UK but currently experiencing disruption to some HTTPS sites.
I wonder there is something more widespread going on?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182553</id>
	<title>Re:People must notice the block.</title>
	<author>Darkness404</author>
	<datestamp>1243958580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sure, but theres two things that they would mostly think. Either A) Stupid computer, why won't you work or B) Well, I guess Twitter is down. <br> <br>

People, especially computer illiterate people are more apt to believe that their ISP sucks, the sites down or they need to upgrade their computer rather then their malevolent communist overlords are trying to block them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , but theres two things that they would mostly think .
Either A ) Stupid computer , why wo n't you work or B ) Well , I guess Twitter is down .
People , especially computer illiterate people are more apt to believe that their ISP sucks , the sites down or they need to upgrade their computer rather then their malevolent communist overlords are trying to block them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, but theres two things that they would mostly think.
Either A) Stupid computer, why won't you work or B) Well, I guess Twitter is down.
People, especially computer illiterate people are more apt to believe that their ISP sucks, the sites down or they need to upgrade their computer rather then their malevolent communist overlords are trying to block them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182349</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182395</id>
	<title>Unintended consequences</title>
	<author>harmonise</author>
	<datestamp>1243958040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect that this will have unintended consequences like a Streisand effect. Some people who might not think about the Tiananmen Square incident might wonder why they can't get to certain sites. They'll ask a friend about it who will respond "Maybe because it's the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square incident." The listener's memory will be refreshed and the chance of people forgetting about Tiananmen Square and the date the incident occurred will be lessened.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect that this will have unintended consequences like a Streisand effect .
Some people who might not think about the Tiananmen Square incident might wonder why they ca n't get to certain sites .
They 'll ask a friend about it who will respond " Maybe because it 's the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square incident .
" The listener 's memory will be refreshed and the chance of people forgetting about Tiananmen Square and the date the incident occurred will be lessened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect that this will have unintended consequences like a Streisand effect.
Some people who might not think about the Tiananmen Square incident might wonder why they can't get to certain sites.
They'll ask a friend about it who will respond "Maybe because it's the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square incident.
" The listener's memory will be refreshed and the chance of people forgetting about Tiananmen Square and the date the incident occurred will be lessened.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182647</id>
	<title>Request</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243958880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please block twitter here in the US too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please block twitter here in the US too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please block twitter here in the US too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183691</id>
	<title>most college students dont care about Tiananmen</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1243962720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It isnt in the Chinese history books and frowned upon talking about.
Now there are good jobs, the internet (censored) and pop culture, to occupy students.  These werent really around in China 20 years ago.
<br> <br>
Not so much different in the USA. A couple weeks ago was the 40th anniversary the USA Tianamen- Kent State- when the US military shot college rioters dead. It was barely mentioned in the news and most young people hadnt heard of it.
<br> <br>
Both incidents have iconic images: The civilian blocking the row of tanks; the hippie girl putting a flower in the barrel of the soldier's gun.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It isnt in the Chinese history books and frowned upon talking about .
Now there are good jobs , the internet ( censored ) and pop culture , to occupy students .
These werent really around in China 20 years ago .
Not so much different in the USA .
A couple weeks ago was the 40th anniversary the USA Tianamen- Kent State- when the US military shot college rioters dead .
It was barely mentioned in the news and most young people hadnt heard of it .
Both incidents have iconic images : The civilian blocking the row of tanks ; the hippie girl putting a flower in the barrel of the soldier 's gun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It isnt in the Chinese history books and frowned upon talking about.
Now there are good jobs, the internet (censored) and pop culture, to occupy students.
These werent really around in China 20 years ago.
Not so much different in the USA.
A couple weeks ago was the 40th anniversary the USA Tianamen- Kent State- when the US military shot college rioters dead.
It was barely mentioned in the news and most young people hadnt heard of it.
Both incidents have iconic images: The civilian blocking the row of tanks; the hippie girl putting a flower in the barrel of the soldier's gun.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182823</id>
	<title>di3k</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243959420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">to say there have FreeBSD showed to have regular real problems Hear you. Also, if will recaal that it than a fraction developers goals I personally so there are people is the group that the reaper In a Luck I'll find join in especially All major surveys effort to address to get some eye play parties the AMERICA) might be For trolls' to work I'm doing, To yet another [gay-sex-access.com]? it's going, there are only the numbers. The With THOUSANDS of from the sidelines, More gay than they We''l be able to then disappeared than a fraction prospects are coming a piss Keep unnecessary worthwhile.  It's not anymore. It's new core is going best. Individuals</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>to say there have FreeBSD showed to have regular real problems Hear you .
Also , if will recaal that it than a fraction developers goals I personally so there are people is the group that the reaper In a Luck I 'll find join in especially All major surveys effort to address to get some eye play parties the AMERICA ) might be For trolls ' to work I 'm doing , To yet another [ gay-sex-access.com ] ?
it 's going , there are only the numbers .
The With THOUSANDS of from the sidelines , More gay than they We''l be able to then disappeared than a fraction prospects are coming a piss Keep unnecessary worthwhile .
It 's not anymore .
It 's new core is going best .
Individuals [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to say there have FreeBSD showed to have regular real problems Hear you.
Also, if will recaal that it than a fraction developers goals I personally so there are people is the group that the reaper In a Luck I'll find join in especially All major surveys effort to address to get some eye play parties the AMERICA) might be For trolls' to work I'm doing, To yet another [gay-sex-access.com]?
it's going, there are only the numbers.
The With THOUSANDS of from the sidelines, More gay than they We''l be able to then disappeared than a fraction prospects are coming a piss Keep unnecessary worthwhile.
It's not anymore.
It's new core is going best.
Individuals [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183601</id>
	<title>Don't Worry</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243962240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Party probably just doesn't want the people to hear what the rest of the world thinks about what ( US government bonds ) their money is invested in. Geitner has the Party line.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Party probably just does n't want the people to hear what the rest of the world thinks about what ( US government bonds ) their money is invested in .
Geitner has the Party line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Party probably just doesn't want the people to hear what the rest of the world thinks about what ( US government bonds ) their money is invested in.
Geitner has the Party line.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182637</id>
	<title>Re:What are we doing?</title>
	<author>causality</author>
	<datestamp>1243958880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships? Why do we continue to support reigimes of tyrrany?

Oh yeah, because they make shit on the cheap and we're a nation of greedy slobs with a humane streak which lasts up until that $5 is taken from your pay cheque to buy your "morality token" for the month.

Flamebait or not, if you buy Chinese goods, you support oppression.</p></div><p>There's things which are "Flamebait" because they're blatantly false and often deliberate distortions of reality.
<br> <br>
Then there's things which are "Flamebait" because they're completely true and people can't accept that due to a number of character flaws and other shortcomings that render them unable to call things what they are or otherwise to deal with reality.  The funny thing is, people get a lot more pissy and upset about this one, and try much harder to shut it down or to shout it down (like the pleasant individuals who can avoid inflicting their personal problems on others that they are) than the first category.
<br> <br>
Which one this is should be an exericise to the reader.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships ?
Why do we continue to support reigimes of tyrrany ?
Oh yeah , because they make shit on the cheap and we 're a nation of greedy slobs with a humane streak which lasts up until that $ 5 is taken from your pay cheque to buy your " morality token " for the month .
Flamebait or not , if you buy Chinese goods , you support oppression.There 's things which are " Flamebait " because they 're blatantly false and often deliberate distortions of reality .
Then there 's things which are " Flamebait " because they 're completely true and people ca n't accept that due to a number of character flaws and other shortcomings that render them unable to call things what they are or otherwise to deal with reality .
The funny thing is , people get a lot more pissy and upset about this one , and try much harder to shut it down or to shout it down ( like the pleasant individuals who can avoid inflicting their personal problems on others that they are ) than the first category .
Which one this is should be an exericise to the reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are we buying the products of these fascist dictatorships?
Why do we continue to support reigimes of tyrrany?
Oh yeah, because they make shit on the cheap and we're a nation of greedy slobs with a humane streak which lasts up until that $5 is taken from your pay cheque to buy your "morality token" for the month.
Flamebait or not, if you buy Chinese goods, you support oppression.There's things which are "Flamebait" because they're blatantly false and often deliberate distortions of reality.
Then there's things which are "Flamebait" because they're completely true and people can't accept that due to a number of character flaws and other shortcomings that render them unable to call things what they are or otherwise to deal with reality.
The funny thing is, people get a lot more pissy and upset about this one, and try much harder to shut it down or to shout it down (like the pleasant individuals who can avoid inflicting their personal problems on others that they are) than the first category.
Which one this is should be an exericise to the reader.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182381</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183737</id>
	<title>Re:and nothing of value was lost</title>
	<author>SydShamino</author>
	<datestamp>1243962840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In case you haven't been following it, Brent Spiner is telling a short story through his Twitter account, one sentence at a time.  (Or so says my wife; I don't use those newfangled interwebs 2.0 things.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In case you have n't been following it , Brent Spiner is telling a short story through his Twitter account , one sentence at a time .
( Or so says my wife ; I do n't use those newfangled interwebs 2.0 things .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In case you haven't been following it, Brent Spiner is telling a short story through his Twitter account, one sentence at a time.
(Or so says my wife; I don't use those newfangled interwebs 2.0 things.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182953</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183845</id>
	<title>Re:Retaliation</title>
	<author>TheGratefulNet</author>
	<datestamp>1243963440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>back when I ran my own port25 mailserver, I DID block china.  every damned bit of it.  every netblock I could find.  and even ones I discovered.</p><p>discovered?  yes, when I got spam (my username base was very tiny and so any dictionary attack was a clear 'hello' from a spam ip addr) I would file that netblock away and block the whole thing.  if I felt really mean that day, I'd increase the netblock by a bit to include more and more<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>soon I got a nice listing of all the overseas spam ip blocks.  I mapped out all of china, this way; along with other asian countries that sent me non-ascii spam (like, I'd be able to read that stuff anyway).</p><p>so yes, I did block china.  I didn't care one bit, either.  one chance - you blow it - you get blocked.</p><p>enough of this shit from china.  not once have I ever had a REAL email from<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.cn.  not once.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>back when I ran my own port25 mailserver , I DID block china .
every damned bit of it .
every netblock I could find .
and even ones I discovered.discovered ?
yes , when I got spam ( my username base was very tiny and so any dictionary attack was a clear 'hello ' from a spam ip addr ) I would file that netblock away and block the whole thing .
if I felt really mean that day , I 'd increase the netblock by a bit to include more and more ; ) soon I got a nice listing of all the overseas spam ip blocks .
I mapped out all of china , this way ; along with other asian countries that sent me non-ascii spam ( like , I 'd be able to read that stuff anyway ) .so yes , I did block china .
I did n't care one bit , either .
one chance - you blow it - you get blocked.enough of this shit from china .
not once have I ever had a REAL email from .cn .
not once .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>back when I ran my own port25 mailserver, I DID block china.
every damned bit of it.
every netblock I could find.
and even ones I discovered.discovered?
yes, when I got spam (my username base was very tiny and so any dictionary attack was a clear 'hello' from a spam ip addr) I would file that netblock away and block the whole thing.
if I felt really mean that day, I'd increase the netblock by a bit to include more and more ;)soon I got a nice listing of all the overseas spam ip blocks.
I mapped out all of china, this way; along with other asian countries that sent me non-ascii spam (like, I'd be able to read that stuff anyway).so yes, I did block china.
I didn't care one bit, either.
one chance - you blow it - you get blocked.enough of this shit from china.
not once have I ever had a REAL email from .cn.
not once.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182251</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183177</id>
	<title>Re:Editors, please!</title>
	<author>Kozz</author>
	<datestamp>1243960680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yes, I'm picking nits, but the overall quality of journalism seems to be declining on a daily basis.  Despite what some here may think, accuracy IS important.</p></div><p>And quite frankly, this website is part of new media, and the creators/owners/editors are not trained journalists (if any are, someone please correct me).

What's most disgusting is the tripe generated by so many local television newscasters, people who we used to expect brought some kind of journalistic integrity, a reasonable command of their native language, and could avoid the kind of writing that makes us slap our foreheads.

Yes, it's true, many tv newscasters in my area probably hate me for my emails.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I 'm picking nits , but the overall quality of journalism seems to be declining on a daily basis .
Despite what some here may think , accuracy IS important.And quite frankly , this website is part of new media , and the creators/owners/editors are not trained journalists ( if any are , someone please correct me ) .
What 's most disgusting is the tripe generated by so many local television newscasters , people who we used to expect brought some kind of journalistic integrity , a reasonable command of their native language , and could avoid the kind of writing that makes us slap our foreheads .
Yes , it 's true , many tv newscasters in my area probably hate me for my emails .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I'm picking nits, but the overall quality of journalism seems to be declining on a daily basis.
Despite what some here may think, accuracy IS important.And quite frankly, this website is part of new media, and the creators/owners/editors are not trained journalists (if any are, someone please correct me).
What's most disgusting is the tripe generated by so many local television newscasters, people who we used to expect brought some kind of journalistic integrity, a reasonable command of their native language, and could avoid the kind of writing that makes us slap our foreheads.
Yes, it's true, many tv newscasters in my area probably hate me for my emails.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182583</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182403</id>
	<title>Re:People must notice the block.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243958040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>But alas remember this is the instant information age now. A few days after the anniversary no one will care about it and move onto the next funny video on youtube of cats stuck in a bag.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But alas remember this is the instant information age now .
A few days after the anniversary no one will care about it and move onto the next funny video on youtube of cats stuck in a bag .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But alas remember this is the instant information age now.
A few days after the anniversary no one will care about it and move onto the next funny video on youtube of cats stuck in a bag.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182349</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28185141</id>
	<title>Re:People must notice the block.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243968780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>why the hell is this modded troll and the stupid comment he replied to modded up? this guy's post is the truth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why the hell is this modded troll and the stupid comment he replied to modded up ?
this guy 's post is the truth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why the hell is this modded troll and the stupid comment he replied to modded up?
this guy's post is the truth.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182943</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182309</id>
	<title>and nothing of value was lost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243957740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish the US would block Twitter too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish the US would block Twitter too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish the US would block Twitter too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183157</id>
	<title>Re:and nothing of value was lost</title>
	<author>rynthetyn</author>
	<datestamp>1243960620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In a country like China, where everybody has mobile phones but not everyone has computers, a service like Twitter can be immensely useful in helping the free-flow of information. For me, Twitter is a way for me to let friends and family know what I'm up to while I'm living halfway around the world from them, and it's a handy way to keep up with breaking news, but not having it isn't a big deal, I've got plenty of other sources of information. For my friends in China, losing Twitter is losing an important connection to the outside world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In a country like China , where everybody has mobile phones but not everyone has computers , a service like Twitter can be immensely useful in helping the free-flow of information .
For me , Twitter is a way for me to let friends and family know what I 'm up to while I 'm living halfway around the world from them , and it 's a handy way to keep up with breaking news , but not having it is n't a big deal , I 've got plenty of other sources of information .
For my friends in China , losing Twitter is losing an important connection to the outside world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a country like China, where everybody has mobile phones but not everyone has computers, a service like Twitter can be immensely useful in helping the free-flow of information.
For me, Twitter is a way for me to let friends and family know what I'm up to while I'm living halfway around the world from them, and it's a handy way to keep up with breaking news, but not having it isn't a big deal, I've got plenty of other sources of information.
For my friends in China, losing Twitter is losing an important connection to the outside world.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182953</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28188563</id>
	<title>Re:Selective Memories</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243940100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm from the UK and I'm afraid I don't know about any of these. Anybody mind flipping to the back of the book and copying out the answers for me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm from the UK and I 'm afraid I do n't know about any of these .
Anybody mind flipping to the back of the book and copying out the answers for me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm from the UK and I'm afraid I don't know about any of these.
Anybody mind flipping to the back of the book and copying out the answers for me?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183803</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28186955</id>
	<title>Re:Selective Memories</title>
	<author>FleaPlus</author>
	<datestamp>1243933560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But within America itself, how many of you know of, or recognise the following incidents?</p><p>1) US Government (ATF/FBI) burns to death 76 people in their homes, and the FBI lies about it for six years, when it finally comes clean. No one is ever held accountable.</p><p>2) 4 plain-clothed officers shoot an unarmed man standing in his doorway. They shoot a total of 41 times. He is hit 19 times. After the officers are convicted, the court orders them re-tried, and the second time around they are all acquitted.</p><p>3) Unarmed students at an anti-war protest, are shot at by the National Guard. 4 die, 9 are injured. Again, no accountability. No convictions.</p></div><p>Um, all three incidents were front page stories on the news (i.e. not suppressed) and the last one has been covered in every American history class I've ever taken.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But within America itself , how many of you know of , or recognise the following incidents ? 1 ) US Government ( ATF/FBI ) burns to death 76 people in their homes , and the FBI lies about it for six years , when it finally comes clean .
No one is ever held accountable.2 ) 4 plain-clothed officers shoot an unarmed man standing in his doorway .
They shoot a total of 41 times .
He is hit 19 times .
After the officers are convicted , the court orders them re-tried , and the second time around they are all acquitted.3 ) Unarmed students at an anti-war protest , are shot at by the National Guard .
4 die , 9 are injured .
Again , no accountability .
No convictions.Um , all three incidents were front page stories on the news ( i.e .
not suppressed ) and the last one has been covered in every American history class I 've ever taken .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But within America itself, how many of you know of, or recognise the following incidents?1) US Government (ATF/FBI) burns to death 76 people in their homes, and the FBI lies about it for six years, when it finally comes clean.
No one is ever held accountable.2) 4 plain-clothed officers shoot an unarmed man standing in his doorway.
They shoot a total of 41 times.
He is hit 19 times.
After the officers are convicted, the court orders them re-tried, and the second time around they are all acquitted.3) Unarmed students at an anti-war protest, are shot at by the National Guard.
4 die, 9 are injured.
Again, no accountability.
No convictions.Um, all three incidents were front page stories on the news (i.e.
not suppressed) and the last one has been covered in every American history class I've ever taken.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183803</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183397</id>
	<title>Good thing the olympics made them promise!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243961400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Probably "off topic," but it's interesting that they promised quite a bit in order to be allowed to have the Olympics.  Makes me wonder about other promises.  Makes me glad to live in the US.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably " off topic , " but it 's interesting that they promised quite a bit in order to be allowed to have the Olympics .
Makes me wonder about other promises .
Makes me glad to live in the US .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably "off topic," but it's interesting that they promised quite a bit in order to be allowed to have the Olympics.
Makes me wonder about other promises.
Makes me glad to live in the US.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183633</id>
	<title>Re:and nothing of value was lost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243962360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think Fred should take priority over Twitter</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Fred should take priority over Twitter</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Fred should take priority over Twitter</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182309</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183045</id>
	<title>Gmail's still OK</title>
	<author>Rik Sweeney</author>
	<datestamp>1243960260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As many have pointed out on TFA, Gmail is still OK for the moment and it can be set to collect your Hotmail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As many have pointed out on TFA , Gmail is still OK for the moment and it can be set to collect your Hotmail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As many have pointed out on TFA, Gmail is still OK for the moment and it can be set to collect your Hotmail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182781</id>
	<title>Re:People must notice the block.</title>
	<author>NeoSkandranon</author>
	<datestamp>1243959300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They assume the government knows best and it's for their own good, for the most part.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They assume the government knows best and it 's for their own good , for the most part .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They assume the government knows best and it's for their own good, for the most part.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28182349</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28184961</id>
	<title>Re:What are we doing?</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1243968120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SEP field, duh.</p><p>Its somebody else's problem, not mine, makes it easy for my mind to just ignore or not care.</p><p>On that note, you're free to go to China and fight for their rights rather than sitting in your nice comfy chair (which was probably made in China) using your nice computer (which certainly has parts made in China) and wearing cloths made in china.</p><p>But you won't.  You'll continue to sit in your chair and use your computer to trumpet how evil this is and how everyone is supporting those evil bastards and you'll continue to not actually do shit about it yourself other than doing anything.</p><p>And thats good, cause your premise is flawed.  Stop buying products from China and their lives won't get better, they'll get worse.  Those Chinese workers are working because IT MAKES THEIR LIVES BETTER than the alternative.  If they want change, they can bring it about.  People did start revolutions before the Internet you know, even in China.</p><p>Get off your political high horse and do something useful or stop your bitching.  Yes you have the right to free speech, no that doesn't mean anything you say is actually useful or that anyone else wants to hear it or will act on it.  Actions speak far louder than words, and your actions tell us you don't actually give a damn, you just want to pretend you do and make everything you're an activist.  You aren't, you're just a loud mouth.</p><p>The world will always have people with better lives than someone else.  Thats the way the animal kingdom works.  Always has, always will, its just life and nothing you can say or do will actually change it.  Good luck finding support to help you out on it too.</p><p>Why should I risk my neck for someone who doesn't want to risk their own to better their lives?  Who are you to judge WHO has a better life or who would be happy if things changed.  You have no idea what those individual people want in their lives, no clue what so ever.  You just think yours is better and they should be like you.  Maybe they don't want all the bullshit you have in your life.  Maybe they really don't give a fuck about twitter?  Stop thinking you know other peoples plights and what they want, you have no idea what those people want and there is nothing you can do that will make their lives better for sure.  You think you should be able to go 'help' them with a 'better life' and let them suffer through a revolution while you sit in your Chinese made chair using your Chinese made PC to write smug dairy entries in your blog about how great you are to the rest of the worlds plight.</p><p>You people always make me laugh, you always know how to make it better for someone else that you know nothing about.  Do you have any idea how much your battle cry sounds like those used to describe the 'rightness' of the Crusades?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SEP field , duh.Its somebody else 's problem , not mine , makes it easy for my mind to just ignore or not care.On that note , you 're free to go to China and fight for their rights rather than sitting in your nice comfy chair ( which was probably made in China ) using your nice computer ( which certainly has parts made in China ) and wearing cloths made in china.But you wo n't .
You 'll continue to sit in your chair and use your computer to trumpet how evil this is and how everyone is supporting those evil bastards and you 'll continue to not actually do shit about it yourself other than doing anything.And thats good , cause your premise is flawed .
Stop buying products from China and their lives wo n't get better , they 'll get worse .
Those Chinese workers are working because IT MAKES THEIR LIVES BETTER than the alternative .
If they want change , they can bring it about .
People did start revolutions before the Internet you know , even in China.Get off your political high horse and do something useful or stop your bitching .
Yes you have the right to free speech , no that does n't mean anything you say is actually useful or that anyone else wants to hear it or will act on it .
Actions speak far louder than words , and your actions tell us you do n't actually give a damn , you just want to pretend you do and make everything you 're an activist .
You are n't , you 're just a loud mouth.The world will always have people with better lives than someone else .
Thats the way the animal kingdom works .
Always has , always will , its just life and nothing you can say or do will actually change it .
Good luck finding support to help you out on it too.Why should I risk my neck for someone who does n't want to risk their own to better their lives ?
Who are you to judge WHO has a better life or who would be happy if things changed .
You have no idea what those individual people want in their lives , no clue what so ever .
You just think yours is better and they should be like you .
Maybe they do n't want all the bullshit you have in your life .
Maybe they really do n't give a fuck about twitter ?
Stop thinking you know other peoples plights and what they want , you have no idea what those people want and there is nothing you can do that will make their lives better for sure .
You think you should be able to go 'help ' them with a 'better life ' and let them suffer through a revolution while you sit in your Chinese made chair using your Chinese made PC to write smug dairy entries in your blog about how great you are to the rest of the worlds plight.You people always make me laugh , you always know how to make it better for someone else that you know nothing about .
Do you have any idea how much your battle cry sounds like those used to describe the 'rightness ' of the Crusades ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SEP field, duh.Its somebody else's problem, not mine, makes it easy for my mind to just ignore or not care.On that note, you're free to go to China and fight for their rights rather than sitting in your nice comfy chair (which was probably made in China) using your nice computer (which certainly has parts made in China) and wearing cloths made in china.But you won't.
You'll continue to sit in your chair and use your computer to trumpet how evil this is and how everyone is supporting those evil bastards and you'll continue to not actually do shit about it yourself other than doing anything.And thats good, cause your premise is flawed.
Stop buying products from China and their lives won't get better, they'll get worse.
Those Chinese workers are working because IT MAKES THEIR LIVES BETTER than the alternative.
If they want change, they can bring it about.
People did start revolutions before the Internet you know, even in China.Get off your political high horse and do something useful or stop your bitching.
Yes you have the right to free speech, no that doesn't mean anything you say is actually useful or that anyone else wants to hear it or will act on it.
Actions speak far louder than words, and your actions tell us you don't actually give a damn, you just want to pretend you do and make everything you're an activist.
You aren't, you're just a loud mouth.The world will always have people with better lives than someone else.
Thats the way the animal kingdom works.
Always has, always will, its just life and nothing you can say or do will actually change it.
Good luck finding support to help you out on it too.Why should I risk my neck for someone who doesn't want to risk their own to better their lives?
Who are you to judge WHO has a better life or who would be happy if things changed.
You have no idea what those individual people want in their lives, no clue what so ever.
You just think yours is better and they should be like you.
Maybe they don't want all the bullshit you have in your life.
Maybe they really don't give a fuck about twitter?
Stop thinking you know other peoples plights and what they want, you have no idea what those people want and there is nothing you can do that will make their lives better for sure.
You think you should be able to go 'help' them with a 'better life' and let them suffer through a revolution while you sit in your Chinese made chair using your Chinese made PC to write smug dairy entries in your blog about how great you are to the rest of the worlds plight.You people always make me laugh, you always know how to make it better for someone else that you know nothing about.
Do you have any idea how much your battle cry sounds like those used to describe the 'rightness' of the Crusades?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_02_1410237.28183599</id>
	<title>But but but...</title>
	<author>ChienAndalu</author>
	<datestamp>1243962240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... I thought they were the interweb socialism?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... I thought they were the interweb socialism ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... I thought they were the interweb socialism?</sentencetext>
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