<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_05_31_2034211</id>
	<title>Mozilla and Google's "Don't-Be-Evil" Bulldozer</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1243759200000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"Mozilla execs John Lilly and Mitchell Baker were interviewed at the WSJ's All Things Digital conference last week. In <a href="http://bit.ly/4S53f">a wide-ranging conversation</a>, they discussed the history of Firefox, proprietary versus Open Source development and the debut of Chrome and Mozilla's changing relationship with Google. A great interview.  Well worth reading. There's video as well."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " Mozilla execs John Lilly and Mitchell Baker were interviewed at the WSJ 's All Things Digital conference last week .
In a wide-ranging conversation , they discussed the history of Firefox , proprietary versus Open Source development and the debut of Chrome and Mozilla 's changing relationship with Google .
A great interview .
Well worth reading .
There 's video as well .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "Mozilla execs John Lilly and Mitchell Baker were interviewed at the WSJ's All Things Digital conference last week.
In a wide-ranging conversation, they discussed the history of Firefox, proprietary versus Open Source development and the debut of Chrome and Mozilla's changing relationship with Google.
A great interview.
Well worth reading.
There's video as well.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161185</id>
	<title>Me think...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243764540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...that Microsoft has a quite different opinion on that subject,</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...that Microsoft has a quite different opinion on that subject,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...that Microsoft has a quite different opinion on that subject,</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28163933</id>
	<title>Re:Bulldozer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243788240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What part of Google Update (bg service, auto startup, copies self to various tmp dirs so you can't add a rule to your firewall for it) is 'do no evil'?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What part of Google Update ( bg service , auto startup , copies self to various tmp dirs so you ca n't add a rule to your firewall for it ) is 'do no evil ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What part of Google Update (bg service, auto startup, copies self to various tmp dirs so you can't add a rule to your firewall for it) is 'do no evil'?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161423</id>
	<title>Re:Fear of the computer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243766700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; I think it's true that average end user really does come to fear the PC, and, in my experience, their local IT geek by association.</p><p>Yes, and for good reason.</p><p>&gt; [Average end users] don't care about OpenOffice, or Foxit Reader, or Notepad++</p><p>They start to care when the latter are presented as solutions to the former.  When users vocalize the reasons they fear the PC, and are presented with Free (or just free) software that reduces or eliminates those reasons, they become a lot more receptive to the alternatives.</p><p>Users at my workplace loath Adobe Reader because it causes their already overburdened PC to go even slower while that pig of a program loads.  Out of over 600 employees, only two or three do anything more with PDF files than just read them.  When informed that Foxit Reader will let them view their PDF files without slowing down their PC, their interest in piqued.  When they actually experience the dramatic performance improvement, they are sold.</p><p>Users also complain ferociously when Internet Explorer kills Windows or fails to render the department's banking website.  The first thing I do is install Firefox, and have them try again.  Not only has Firefox worked better in every single case, the users are stunned when I tell them that if Firefox does manage to crash, it won't take the rest of their work with it, unlike Internet Explorer.  Another easy sell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; I think it 's true that average end user really does come to fear the PC , and , in my experience , their local IT geek by association.Yes , and for good reason. &gt; [ Average end users ] do n't care about OpenOffice , or Foxit Reader , or Notepad + + They start to care when the latter are presented as solutions to the former .
When users vocalize the reasons they fear the PC , and are presented with Free ( or just free ) software that reduces or eliminates those reasons , they become a lot more receptive to the alternatives.Users at my workplace loath Adobe Reader because it causes their already overburdened PC to go even slower while that pig of a program loads .
Out of over 600 employees , only two or three do anything more with PDF files than just read them .
When informed that Foxit Reader will let them view their PDF files without slowing down their PC , their interest in piqued .
When they actually experience the dramatic performance improvement , they are sold.Users also complain ferociously when Internet Explorer kills Windows or fails to render the department 's banking website .
The first thing I do is install Firefox , and have them try again .
Not only has Firefox worked better in every single case , the users are stunned when I tell them that if Firefox does manage to crash , it wo n't take the rest of their work with it , unlike Internet Explorer .
Another easy sell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; I think it's true that average end user really does come to fear the PC, and, in my experience, their local IT geek by association.Yes, and for good reason.&gt; [Average end users] don't care about OpenOffice, or Foxit Reader, or Notepad++They start to care when the latter are presented as solutions to the former.
When users vocalize the reasons they fear the PC, and are presented with Free (or just free) software that reduces or eliminates those reasons, they become a lot more receptive to the alternatives.Users at my workplace loath Adobe Reader because it causes their already overburdened PC to go even slower while that pig of a program loads.
Out of over 600 employees, only two or three do anything more with PDF files than just read them.
When informed that Foxit Reader will let them view their PDF files without slowing down their PC, their interest in piqued.
When they actually experience the dramatic performance improvement, they are sold.Users also complain ferociously when Internet Explorer kills Windows or fails to render the department's banking website.
The first thing I do is install Firefox, and have them try again.
Not only has Firefox worked better in every single case, the users are stunned when I tell them that if Firefox does manage to crash, it won't take the rest of their work with it, unlike Internet Explorer.
Another easy sell.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161211</id>
	<title>not very interesting</title>
	<author>bcrowell</author>
	<datestamp>1243764720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I disagree with the slashdot summary. The article is really not that interesting at all. It's very shallow, and it's aimed at a general audience, not a geek audience. I didn't learn anything from it at all. Seriously.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I disagree with the slashdot summary .
The article is really not that interesting at all .
It 's very shallow , and it 's aimed at a general audience , not a geek audience .
I did n't learn anything from it at all .
Seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I disagree with the slashdot summary.
The article is really not that interesting at all.
It's very shallow, and it's aimed at a general audience, not a geek audience.
I didn't learn anything from it at all.
Seriously.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161175</id>
	<title>Fear of the computer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243764480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Walt asks about the Firefox growth curve. Baker says the curve has been relatively linear after an initial spike. "Why don't people use Firefox?" Walt asks. Lilly says people just aren't aware. "Most people think of the browser as a pane of glass; they don't realize that it really effects the way they see the Web. Baker adds that many people fear their computers, and that might make them reticent to experiment with a new browser.</i> <br>
<br>
This last part really is a salient point. I think it's true that average end user really does come to fear the PC, and, in my experience, their local IT geek by association. "Leave the damn thing alone!" they cry, "I don't care about OpenOffice, or Foxit Reader, or Notepad++". <br>
<br>
Bad experiences tend to be a motivator in this aspect, but sometimes it sends people the other way. After a spyware attack, say, people tend to go one of two ways: even more afraid of their PC or they become open minded to new things like Firefox. That's just my experience..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Walt asks about the Firefox growth curve .
Baker says the curve has been relatively linear after an initial spike .
" Why do n't people use Firefox ?
" Walt asks .
Lilly says people just are n't aware .
" Most people think of the browser as a pane of glass ; they do n't realize that it really effects the way they see the Web .
Baker adds that many people fear their computers , and that might make them reticent to experiment with a new browser .
This last part really is a salient point .
I think it 's true that average end user really does come to fear the PC , and , in my experience , their local IT geek by association .
" Leave the damn thing alone !
" they cry , " I do n't care about OpenOffice , or Foxit Reader , or Notepad + + " .
Bad experiences tend to be a motivator in this aspect , but sometimes it sends people the other way .
After a spyware attack , say , people tend to go one of two ways : even more afraid of their PC or they become open minded to new things like Firefox .
That 's just my experience. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Walt asks about the Firefox growth curve.
Baker says the curve has been relatively linear after an initial spike.
"Why don't people use Firefox?
" Walt asks.
Lilly says people just aren't aware.
"Most people think of the browser as a pane of glass; they don't realize that it really effects the way they see the Web.
Baker adds that many people fear their computers, and that might make them reticent to experiment with a new browser.
This last part really is a salient point.
I think it's true that average end user really does come to fear the PC, and, in my experience, their local IT geek by association.
"Leave the damn thing alone!
" they cry, "I don't care about OpenOffice, or Foxit Reader, or Notepad++".
Bad experiences tend to be a motivator in this aspect, but sometimes it sends people the other way.
After a spyware attack, say, people tend to go one of two ways: even more afraid of their PC or they become open minded to new things like Firefox.
That's just my experience..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161711</id>
	<title>Re:Put honest links in the @#$@ summary</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1243769160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's version 2.Oh, man... get with the program.  We're fuckin' synergizin' here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's version 2.Oh , man... get with the program .
We 're fuckin ' synergizin ' here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's version 2.Oh, man... get with the program.
We're fuckin' synergizin' here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161331</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161059</id>
	<title>Yay for bullshitting ourselves</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243763220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The question is, will we be able to look at ourselves when we've created the next Microsoft?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The question is , will we be able to look at ourselves when we 've created the next Microsoft ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The question is, will we be able to look at ourselves when we've created the next Microsoft?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28162933</id>
	<title>You insensitive cl2od?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243779960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>but I'd rather hear [amazingkreskqin.com] Told reporters, What we'mve known</htmltext>
<tokenext>but I 'd rather hear [ amazingkreskqin.com ] Told reporters , What we'mve known</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but I'd rather hear [amazingkreskqin.com] Told reporters, What we'mve known</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28163427</id>
	<title>Re:Fear of the computer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243783980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's not a Linux thing, that's a general system thing. Would you install a new service pack before a big presentation, or tons of core updates? It is really a good idea to just wait like you said and it has nothing to do with it being Linux, Windows, or Mac. An update will change your system, even in a subtle way, thats why they are updates, and if your computer is working fine and you absolutely need it, just wait. As a side note, anytime Ubuntu does a kernel update, it does throw the previous kernel into the grub list as a failsafe</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's not a Linux thing , that 's a general system thing .
Would you install a new service pack before a big presentation , or tons of core updates ?
It is really a good idea to just wait like you said and it has nothing to do with it being Linux , Windows , or Mac .
An update will change your system , even in a subtle way , thats why they are updates , and if your computer is working fine and you absolutely need it , just wait .
As a side note , anytime Ubuntu does a kernel update , it does throw the previous kernel into the grub list as a failsafe</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's not a Linux thing, that's a general system thing.
Would you install a new service pack before a big presentation, or tons of core updates?
It is really a good idea to just wait like you said and it has nothing to do with it being Linux, Windows, or Mac.
An update will change your system, even in a subtle way, thats why they are updates, and if your computer is working fine and you absolutely need it, just wait.
As a side note, anytime Ubuntu does a kernel update, it does throw the previous kernel into the grub list as a failsafe</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28162049</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</id>
	<title>Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243763280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>Can't See Comment Titles</b> <br> <br>
Fix your damn code, slashdot.<br> <br>
Pull your head out of your GNU/Ass and fix your fucking code.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't See Comment Titles Fix your damn code , slashdot .
Pull your head out of your GNU/Ass and fix your fucking code .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't See Comment Titles  
Fix your damn code, slashdot.
Pull your head out of your GNU/Ass and fix your fucking code.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161309</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>nausea\_malvarma</author>
	<datestamp>1243765860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Pull your head out of your GNU/Ass and fix your fucking code.</p></div><p>Gimme the source code for lib0ass. I wanna compile my own.</p><p>...I'm lonely</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pull your head out of your GNU/Ass and fix your fucking code.Gim me the source code for lib0ass .
I wan na compile my own....I 'm lonely</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pull your head out of your GNU/Ass and fix your fucking code.Gimme the source code for lib0ass.
I wanna compile my own....I'm lonely
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161345</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>mahaman</author>
	<datestamp>1243766160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Click the "change" button near the top and the headers will magically appear. It's a workaround, and no substitute for fixing the code, but...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Click the " change " button near the top and the headers will magically appear .
It 's a workaround , and no substitute for fixing the code , but.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Click the "change" button near the top and the headers will magically appear.
It's a workaround, and no substitute for fixing the code, but...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28163461</id>
	<title>Re:Put honest links in the @#$@ summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243784280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Absofrigginlutely!</p><p>Whenever I see a shortened link, I just assume it directs to goatse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Absofrigginlutely ! Whenever I see a shortened link , I just assume it directs to goatse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Absofrigginlutely!Whenever I see a shortened link, I just assume it directs to goatse.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161331</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161471</id>
	<title>Re:Fear of the computer</title>
	<author>Paaskonijn</author>
	<datestamp>1243767120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All too true.
<br> <br>
I just sent a myspace link to a friend, because I wanted her to check out this band's music. The page told her to update her flash player. So I asked her: "Why don't you?". Her reply? "I don't want to install anything new anymore."
<br> <br>
Before you chime in and claim she'd be helped by something like Ubuntu's update-manager, here's a story about another friend.<br>
She had received an old computer from an uncle and wanted to use it to use it for e-mail, surfing the net and watching tv via DVB. I set her up with an Ubuntu system and she couldn't be happier. (Yes, an actual success story, imagine that.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p)<br>
However, during the first two months she's asked five times whether she *really* should install the updates she keeps getting notified about. Despite me explaining to her they're security updates and that she's safer if she does, something about the updates really scared her.
<br> <br>
And then there's this other friend who keeps delaying software installs of software she actually needs and trusts, because she finds the installation process terrifying.
<br> <br>
These are all young people (between 19 and 26) who use computers on a daily basis.<br> <br>
Yes, most people <i>are</i> afraid of computers. They go by the "if ain't broken, for the love of God don't  touch it" adage. And when it does break (most likely due to this behaviour), they'll find a nerdy friend to fix it for them. And install new versions of all their software of course.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p</htmltext>
<tokenext>All too true .
I just sent a myspace link to a friend , because I wanted her to check out this band 's music .
The page told her to update her flash player .
So I asked her : " Why do n't you ? " .
Her reply ?
" I do n't want to install anything new anymore .
" Before you chime in and claim she 'd be helped by something like Ubuntu 's update-manager , here 's a story about another friend .
She had received an old computer from an uncle and wanted to use it to use it for e-mail , surfing the net and watching tv via DVB .
I set her up with an Ubuntu system and she could n't be happier .
( Yes , an actual success story , imagine that .
: p ) However , during the first two months she 's asked five times whether she * really * should install the updates she keeps getting notified about .
Despite me explaining to her they 're security updates and that she 's safer if she does , something about the updates really scared her .
And then there 's this other friend who keeps delaying software installs of software she actually needs and trusts , because she finds the installation process terrifying .
These are all young people ( between 19 and 26 ) who use computers on a daily basis .
Yes , most people are afraid of computers .
They go by the " if ai n't broken , for the love of God do n't touch it " adage .
And when it does break ( most likely due to this behaviour ) , they 'll find a nerdy friend to fix it for them .
And install new versions of all their software of course .
: p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All too true.
I just sent a myspace link to a friend, because I wanted her to check out this band's music.
The page told her to update her flash player.
So I asked her: "Why don't you?".
Her reply?
"I don't want to install anything new anymore.
"
 
Before you chime in and claim she'd be helped by something like Ubuntu's update-manager, here's a story about another friend.
She had received an old computer from an uncle and wanted to use it to use it for e-mail, surfing the net and watching tv via DVB.
I set her up with an Ubuntu system and she couldn't be happier.
(Yes, an actual success story, imagine that.
:p)
However, during the first two months she's asked five times whether she *really* should install the updates she keeps getting notified about.
Despite me explaining to her they're security updates and that she's safer if she does, something about the updates really scared her.
And then there's this other friend who keeps delaying software installs of software she actually needs and trusts, because she finds the installation process terrifying.
These are all young people (between 19 and 26) who use computers on a daily basis.
Yes, most people are afraid of computers.
They go by the "if ain't broken, for the love of God don't  touch it" adage.
And when it does break (most likely due to this behaviour), they'll find a nerdy friend to fix it for them.
And install new versions of all their software of course.
:p</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161335</id>
	<title>There arn't many comments</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243766040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I know why.<br>TFA was seriously tl;dr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I know why.TFA was seriously tl ; dr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I know why.TFA was seriously tl;dr</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28164263</id>
	<title>Re:Fear of the computer</title>
	<author>svunt</author>
	<datestamp>1243791240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A friend of mine rang me a fortnight ago because he was setting up a new internet connection at home and was having problems..."It says I'm connected but I can't get to any websites". I suggested he try IE just to confirm that it was a connection issue, and not a browser setting. No luck, we had to try a few other things, eventually it got fixed.  <p>
Cut to yesterday and he's having trouble accessing a particular page. After about ten minutes of troubleshooting on the phone, I asked "You aren't still using IE are you?"<br>"No, I'm using...oh wait, yeah it is IE". <br> Average users really do see the browser as a pane of glass with internets on the other side, it's a perfect description.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A friend of mine rang me a fortnight ago because he was setting up a new internet connection at home and was having problems... " It says I 'm connected but I ca n't get to any websites " .
I suggested he try IE just to confirm that it was a connection issue , and not a browser setting .
No luck , we had to try a few other things , eventually it got fixed .
Cut to yesterday and he 's having trouble accessing a particular page .
After about ten minutes of troubleshooting on the phone , I asked " You are n't still using IE are you ?
" " No , I 'm using...oh wait , yeah it is IE " .
Average users really do see the browser as a pane of glass with internets on the other side , it 's a perfect description .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A friend of mine rang me a fortnight ago because he was setting up a new internet connection at home and was having problems..."It says I'm connected but I can't get to any websites".
I suggested he try IE just to confirm that it was a connection issue, and not a browser setting.
No luck, we had to try a few other things, eventually it got fixed.
Cut to yesterday and he's having trouble accessing a particular page.
After about ten minutes of troubleshooting on the phone, I asked "You aren't still using IE are you?
""No, I'm using...oh wait, yeah it is IE".
Average users really do see the browser as a pane of glass with internets on the other side, it's a perfect description.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28164045</id>
	<title>co3Rk</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243789320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">Usenet. In 1Y995,</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Usenet .
In 1Y995 , [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Usenet.
In 1Y995, [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161291</id>
	<title>Re:Fear of the computer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243765680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention there's increasing competition in this space for people who are aware.  My boss who's not a tech guy knows about Chrome, Opera and Safari.  He's tried all of them and tends to use Firefox for general surfing and IE6 for intranet stuff.</p><p>My mother and father both know about Firefox, although my mother is the only one that kept using it.  Some people just believe that Microsoft will always make better products (my aunt for instance).  She had to use Netscape 4 years ago and thinks Firefox must be as "bad" as that was.  I can't convince her otherwise.</p><p>The real problem is that I think Firefox will be under increased pressure from emerging browsers based on webkit.  One can debate about the quality of webkit, but it's got a better shot because two commercial browsers (safari and chrome) run on top of it.  Not to mention, I can drop midori onto a system in a FOSS environment.  You've got options to use webkit with KDE or Gnome too.</p><p>I think Mozilla needs to come up with an "official" consistent unbranded name for firefox for FOSS projects or start accepting upstream patches for other operating systems so that they can be blessed with trademark use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention there 's increasing competition in this space for people who are aware .
My boss who 's not a tech guy knows about Chrome , Opera and Safari .
He 's tried all of them and tends to use Firefox for general surfing and IE6 for intranet stuff.My mother and father both know about Firefox , although my mother is the only one that kept using it .
Some people just believe that Microsoft will always make better products ( my aunt for instance ) .
She had to use Netscape 4 years ago and thinks Firefox must be as " bad " as that was .
I ca n't convince her otherwise.The real problem is that I think Firefox will be under increased pressure from emerging browsers based on webkit .
One can debate about the quality of webkit , but it 's got a better shot because two commercial browsers ( safari and chrome ) run on top of it .
Not to mention , I can drop midori onto a system in a FOSS environment .
You 've got options to use webkit with KDE or Gnome too.I think Mozilla needs to come up with an " official " consistent unbranded name for firefox for FOSS projects or start accepting upstream patches for other operating systems so that they can be blessed with trademark use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention there's increasing competition in this space for people who are aware.
My boss who's not a tech guy knows about Chrome, Opera and Safari.
He's tried all of them and tends to use Firefox for general surfing and IE6 for intranet stuff.My mother and father both know about Firefox, although my mother is the only one that kept using it.
Some people just believe that Microsoft will always make better products (my aunt for instance).
She had to use Netscape 4 years ago and thinks Firefox must be as "bad" as that was.
I can't convince her otherwise.The real problem is that I think Firefox will be under increased pressure from emerging browsers based on webkit.
One can debate about the quality of webkit, but it's got a better shot because two commercial browsers (safari and chrome) run on top of it.
Not to mention, I can drop midori onto a system in a FOSS environment.
You've got options to use webkit with KDE or Gnome too.I think Mozilla needs to come up with an "official" consistent unbranded name for firefox for FOSS projects or start accepting upstream patches for other operating systems so that they can be blessed with trademark use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161175</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161451</id>
	<title>Nothing new</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243766940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The "Don't be Evil" moniker is as much a bull-shitty marketing slogan when Google said it as when Mozilla Corporation utters it.</p><p>Only only need dig a little deeper to find the evidence: their ongoing "Data (tm)" initiative, mining installers with extra tracking to certain users, etc.</p><p>But most people don't; they're too busy clucking about whose JS engine finishes a test suite milliseconds faster and "OMG &lt;video&gt;."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The " Do n't be Evil " moniker is as much a bull-shitty marketing slogan when Google said it as when Mozilla Corporation utters it.Only only need dig a little deeper to find the evidence : their ongoing " Data ( tm ) " initiative , mining installers with extra tracking to certain users , etc.But most people do n't ; they 're too busy clucking about whose JS engine finishes a test suite milliseconds faster and " OMG .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "Don't be Evil" moniker is as much a bull-shitty marketing slogan when Google said it as when Mozilla Corporation utters it.Only only need dig a little deeper to find the evidence: their ongoing "Data (tm)" initiative, mining installers with extra tracking to certain users, etc.But most people don't; they're too busy clucking about whose JS engine finishes a test suite milliseconds faster and "OMG .
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161749</id>
	<title>Hair...</title>
	<author>RobDollar</author>
	<datestamp>1243769580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did google cut funding half way through Mitchell Bakers' haircut?</p><p>Or is the haircut open source, so anyone can come along and change it as they please?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did google cut funding half way through Mitchell Bakers ' haircut ? Or is the haircut open source , so anyone can come along and change it as they please ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did google cut funding half way through Mitchell Bakers' haircut?Or is the haircut open source, so anyone can come along and change it as they please?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28165249</id>
	<title>Re:Love that statement</title>
	<author>SirJorgelOfBorgel</author>
	<datestamp>1243847580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is a good quote<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) About the translation thing though, I've noticed these 'expert translators' are not often very good. They know their languages well, of course, but often not the technology. Finding a pro translator that does know both is hard and very expensive. The volunteers are often enthousiasts who do know both the language and the software/technobabble needed. While it may not always be apparent for simple products (in terms of technobabble involved), niche tech apps can quickly run into this problem. I've seen very good volunteer translation work and very bad professional<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... even at closed-source commercial corps.</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a good quote : ) About the translation thing though , I 've noticed these 'expert translators ' are not often very good .
They know their languages well , of course , but often not the technology .
Finding a pro translator that does know both is hard and very expensive .
The volunteers are often enthousiasts who do know both the language and the software/technobabble needed .
While it may not always be apparent for simple products ( in terms of technobabble involved ) , niche tech apps can quickly run into this problem .
I 've seen very good volunteer translation work and very bad professional ... even at closed-source commercial corps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a good quote :) About the translation thing though, I've noticed these 'expert translators' are not often very good.
They know their languages well, of course, but often not the technology.
Finding a pro translator that does know both is hard and very expensive.
The volunteers are often enthousiasts who do know both the language and the software/technobabble needed.
While it may not always be apparent for simple products (in terms of technobabble involved), niche tech apps can quickly run into this problem.
I've seen very good volunteer translation work and very bad professional ... even at closed-source commercial corps.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161123</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28162049</id>
	<title>Re:Fear of the computer</title>
	<author>retchdog</author>
	<datestamp>1243772280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hell, I've been using linux for years and <b>I'm</b> skittish about an update which involves the kernel. If I have a presentation later that day or the next, I'll put it off until afterward. I don't want to be googling and dmesg'ing the bug in console for upward of an hour, when I have something else to do. It has happened...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hell , I 've been using linux for years and I 'm skittish about an update which involves the kernel .
If I have a presentation later that day or the next , I 'll put it off until afterward .
I do n't want to be googling and dmesg'ing the bug in console for upward of an hour , when I have something else to do .
It has happened.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hell, I've been using linux for years and I'm skittish about an update which involves the kernel.
If I have a presentation later that day or the next, I'll put it off until afterward.
I don't want to be googling and dmesg'ing the bug in console for upward of an hour, when I have something else to do.
It has happened...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161471</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161659</id>
	<title>Re:Fear of the computer</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1243768620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I blame the bulk of this on our regular pissings on how "stupid people" have installed malware on their own systems.</p><p>If they don't trust that they'll know a good program from a bad one, they'd rather just leave the computer as it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I blame the bulk of this on our regular pissings on how " stupid people " have installed malware on their own systems.If they do n't trust that they 'll know a good program from a bad one , they 'd rather just leave the computer as it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I blame the bulk of this on our regular pissings on how "stupid people" have installed malware on their own systems.If they don't trust that they'll know a good program from a bad one, they'd rather just leave the computer as it is.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161175</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161125</id>
	<title>oh</title>
	<author>ushdfgakj</author>
	<datestamp>1243763880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Censorship is not evil!!!! Worship GOOGLE!!!! Give us more money!!!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Censorship is not evil ! ! ! !
Worship GOOGLE ! ! ! !
Give us more money ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Censorship is not evil!!!!
Worship GOOGLE!!!!
Give us more money!!!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161367</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243766280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Comment Titles visible in FF &amp; Opera, Linux. Opera cannot follow story links from front page, however.</p><p>Seriously guys, fix your damn code.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Comment Titles visible in FF &amp; Opera , Linux .
Opera can not follow story links from front page , however.Seriously guys , fix your damn code .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Comment Titles visible in FF &amp; Opera, Linux.
Opera cannot follow story links from front page, however.Seriously guys, fix your damn code.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161611</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1243768260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Slashdot isn't even a mildly complex website, why the fuck do I always end up having problems with it regardless of which browser I use.</p><p>Stop trying to be so fucking 'cute' and ajax trendy and get back to the standard fucking web pages that work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot is n't even a mildly complex website , why the fuck do I always end up having problems with it regardless of which browser I use.Stop trying to be so fucking 'cute ' and ajax trendy and get back to the standard fucking web pages that work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot isn't even a mildly complex website, why the fuck do I always end up having problems with it regardless of which browser I use.Stop trying to be so fucking 'cute' and ajax trendy and get back to the standard fucking web pages that work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28164763</id>
	<title>Re:It's "Do No Evil", not "Don't Be Evil"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243796820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed, I stand corrected.   I could have sworn that I had originally read it as "Do No Evil" - In fact, I thought I read it that way in the Google bio "Search" - unfortunately I loaned out the book, so I can't go check the reference.</p><p>My apologies to all for the error....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , I stand corrected .
I could have sworn that I had originally read it as " Do No Evil " - In fact , I thought I read it that way in the Google bio " Search " - unfortunately I loaned out the book , so I ca n't go check the reference.My apologies to all for the error... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, I stand corrected.
I could have sworn that I had originally read it as "Do No Evil" - In fact, I thought I read it that way in the Google bio "Search" - unfortunately I loaned out the book, so I can't go check the reference.My apologies to all for the error....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161713</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161527</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>Fusen</author>
	<datestamp>1243767540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;aid=2797951&amp;group\_id=4421&amp;atid=104421" title="sourceforge.net">https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;aid=2797951&amp;group\_id=4421&amp;atid=104421</a> [sourceforge.net]

official bug submitted</htmltext>
<tokenext>https : //sourceforge.net/tracker/ ? func = detail&amp;aid = 2797951&amp;group \ _id = 4421&amp;atid = 104421 [ sourceforge.net ] official bug submitted</tokentext>
<sentencetext>https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;aid=2797951&amp;group\_id=4421&amp;atid=104421 [sourceforge.net]

official bug submitted</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28165569</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>dzfoo</author>
	<datestamp>1243852500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks!  That worked.  Now that's change I can believ... uh, sorry.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -dZ.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks !
That worked .
Now that 's change I can believ... uh , sorry .
        -dZ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks!
That worked.
Now that's change I can believ... uh, sorry.
        -dZ.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161329</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>cheesecake23</author>
	<datestamp>1243766040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My comment titles also appear white on white in some parts of slashdot (Firefox 3.0.10 on WinXP), but only when I am logged in. I suspected the problem was a missing stylesheet, and used Greasemonkey to reinject it successfully. An easier but temporary fix (for me) is to just click the "change" button in the threshold/sorting dialog.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My comment titles also appear white on white in some parts of slashdot ( Firefox 3.0.10 on WinXP ) , but only when I am logged in .
I suspected the problem was a missing stylesheet , and used Greasemonkey to reinject it successfully .
An easier but temporary fix ( for me ) is to just click the " change " button in the threshold/sorting dialog .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My comment titles also appear white on white in some parts of slashdot (Firefox 3.0.10 on WinXP), but only when I am logged in.
I suspected the problem was a missing stylesheet, and used Greasemonkey to reinject it successfully.
An easier but temporary fix (for me) is to just click the "change" button in the threshold/sorting dialog.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161123</id>
	<title>Love that statement</title>
	<author>jfbilodeau</author>
	<datestamp>1243763820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Walt: Why wouldn't it just be better for the consumer to go with the company that's hired experts to do its translations? Baker: How much software do you really think is great? Walt: Not very much. Lilly: But it's all written by experts. Walt nods, point taken."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Walt : Why would n't it just be better for the consumer to go with the company that 's hired experts to do its translations ?
Baker : How much software do you really think is great ?
Walt : Not very much .
Lilly : But it 's all written by experts .
Walt nods , point taken .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Walt: Why wouldn't it just be better for the consumer to go with the company that's hired experts to do its translations?
Baker: How much software do you really think is great?
Walt: Not very much.
Lilly: But it's all written by experts.
Walt nods, point taken.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28162273</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>sudden.zero</author>
	<datestamp>1243774260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>String</b> <i>rant</i> = "I agree I too am seeing the white on White GNU/Missing Tag Monster when I am logged in so whome ever is assigned to this ticket needs to hurry up and fix it or give me access to the damn code and I will fix it myself!!!!";<br> <br>

<b>SendToTicketOwner</b>(<i>rant</i>);</htmltext>
<tokenext>String rant = " I agree I too am seeing the white on White GNU/Missing Tag Monster when I am logged in so whome ever is assigned to this ticket needs to hurry up and fix it or give me access to the damn code and I will fix it myself ! ! ! !
" ; SendToTicketOwner ( rant ) ;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>String rant = "I agree I too am seeing the white on White GNU/Missing Tag Monster when I am logged in so whome ever is assigned to this ticket needs to hurry up and fix it or give me access to the damn code and I will fix it myself!!!!
"; 

SendToTicketOwner(rant);</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161381</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243766400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like the slash code relies on cookies \_just recently\_ to try connecting correctly.  Bad coding.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like the slash code relies on cookies \ _just recently \ _ to try connecting correctly .
Bad coding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like the slash code relies on cookies \_just recently\_ to try connecting correctly.
Bad coding.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161331</id>
	<title>Put honest links in the @#$@ summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243766040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously? A link to "http://bit.ly/4S53f"? There is no *good* reason why slashdot shouldn't use direct links, rather than this URL shortening nonsense, in story summaries. I'd like to know where I'm going in deciding whether to RTFA. Here, the link actually does go to the WSJ's "All Things Digital" site, at <a href="http://d7.allthingsd.com/20090528/d7-interview-mitchell-baker-and-john-lilly/" title="allthingsd.com" rel="nofollow">http://d7.allthingsd.com/20090528/d7-interview-mitchell-baker-and-john-lilly/</a> [allthingsd.com] .
<p>
Also, as for Timothy's "not-a-transcript-but-better-than-one" heading: no. This summary in the text is not as good as a transcript, and the video is not as good as a transcript, because reading a transcript is faster, and is something I can do at work. (Yes, I know that it's Sunday).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?
A link to " http : //bit.ly/4S53f " ?
There is no * good * reason why slashdot should n't use direct links , rather than this URL shortening nonsense , in story summaries .
I 'd like to know where I 'm going in deciding whether to RTFA .
Here , the link actually does go to the WSJ 's " All Things Digital " site , at http : //d7.allthingsd.com/20090528/d7-interview-mitchell-baker-and-john-lilly/ [ allthingsd.com ] .
Also , as for Timothy 's " not-a-transcript-but-better-than-one " heading : no .
This summary in the text is not as good as a transcript , and the video is not as good as a transcript , because reading a transcript is faster , and is something I can do at work .
( Yes , I know that it 's Sunday ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?
A link to "http://bit.ly/4S53f"?
There is no *good* reason why slashdot shouldn't use direct links, rather than this URL shortening nonsense, in story summaries.
I'd like to know where I'm going in deciding whether to RTFA.
Here, the link actually does go to the WSJ's "All Things Digital" site, at http://d7.allthingsd.com/20090528/d7-interview-mitchell-baker-and-john-lilly/ [allthingsd.com] .
Also, as for Timothy's "not-a-transcript-but-better-than-one" heading: no.
This summary in the text is not as good as a transcript, and the video is not as good as a transcript, because reading a transcript is faster, and is something I can do at work.
(Yes, I know that it's Sunday).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161043</id>
	<title>Second Post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243763040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeay my life is fulfilled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeay my life is fulfilled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeay my life is fulfilled.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161155</id>
	<title>love this quote: "Why don't people use Firefox?"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243764300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For many companies, the lack of easy deployment &amp; management tools is the answer.</p><p>Yes, there are 3rd-party companies who do that. Should I trust them?</p><p>Buy why not a simple<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.msi direct from Mozilla?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For many companies , the lack of easy deployment &amp; management tools is the answer.Yes , there are 3rd-party companies who do that .
Should I trust them ? Buy why not a simple .msi direct from Mozilla ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For many companies, the lack of easy deployment &amp; management tools is the answer.Yes, there are 3rd-party companies who do that.
Should I trust them?Buy why not a simple .msi direct from Mozilla?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28165357</id>
	<title>Re:Fear of the computer</title>
	<author>TheLink</author>
	<datestamp>1243849200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe your myspace link was fine.<br><br>But I doubt your friend should make it a habit of updating her "flash player" based on what some myspace page tells her.<br><br>See the thing is, it isn't that safe. The malware writers are really out to get people like your friend. And even "legit" software makers have done pretty dubious and stupid stuff (in addition to making pretty bad mistakes).<br><br>So some of them have been burnt so badly they've decided it's better to not install anything new anymore.<br><br>Even if as a result they are more vulnerable to being infected by malware that slows down their computers. The funny thing is most AV programs nowadays already make computers a lot slower, so if the malware disables the AV programs and runs, they might not notice the difference<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;).(Yes I know there are other evil things malware do ).<br><br>The big problem is users can't tell the difference between an OK "update" and a not OK "update".<br><br>Truth is figuring that out is not an easy problem. In fact from a theoretical POV, it's harder than solving the halting problem, since:<br><br>1) They don't necessarily have meaningful access to a \_true\_ description of the program (or update in this case).<br>2) They don't know what all the inputs are.<br><br>A halting problem is: given a description of a program and a finite input, decide whether the program finishes running or will run forever. It's been proven to be unsolvable.<br>The update/install problem is: given a potentially false description of a program, decide whether the program will screw up your system or not. Go figure.<br><br>The people who make operating systems should make things easier and safer than that (I've proposed a way before, but we're getting off topic enough already).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe your myspace link was fine.But I doubt your friend should make it a habit of updating her " flash player " based on what some myspace page tells her.See the thing is , it is n't that safe .
The malware writers are really out to get people like your friend .
And even " legit " software makers have done pretty dubious and stupid stuff ( in addition to making pretty bad mistakes ) .So some of them have been burnt so badly they 've decided it 's better to not install anything new anymore.Even if as a result they are more vulnerable to being infected by malware that slows down their computers .
The funny thing is most AV programs nowadays already make computers a lot slower , so if the malware disables the AV programs and runs , they might not notice the difference ; ) .
( Yes I know there are other evil things malware do ) .The big problem is users ca n't tell the difference between an OK " update " and a not OK " update " .Truth is figuring that out is not an easy problem .
In fact from a theoretical POV , it 's harder than solving the halting problem , since : 1 ) They do n't necessarily have meaningful access to a \ _true \ _ description of the program ( or update in this case ) .2 ) They do n't know what all the inputs are.A halting problem is : given a description of a program and a finite input , decide whether the program finishes running or will run forever .
It 's been proven to be unsolvable.The update/install problem is : given a potentially false description of a program , decide whether the program will screw up your system or not .
Go figure.The people who make operating systems should make things easier and safer than that ( I 've proposed a way before , but we 're getting off topic enough already ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe your myspace link was fine.But I doubt your friend should make it a habit of updating her "flash player" based on what some myspace page tells her.See the thing is, it isn't that safe.
The malware writers are really out to get people like your friend.
And even "legit" software makers have done pretty dubious and stupid stuff (in addition to making pretty bad mistakes).So some of them have been burnt so badly they've decided it's better to not install anything new anymore.Even if as a result they are more vulnerable to being infected by malware that slows down their computers.
The funny thing is most AV programs nowadays already make computers a lot slower, so if the malware disables the AV programs and runs, they might not notice the difference ;).
(Yes I know there are other evil things malware do ).The big problem is users can't tell the difference between an OK "update" and a not OK "update".Truth is figuring that out is not an easy problem.
In fact from a theoretical POV, it's harder than solving the halting problem, since:1) They don't necessarily have meaningful access to a \_true\_ description of the program (or update in this case).2) They don't know what all the inputs are.A halting problem is: given a description of a program and a finite input, decide whether the program finishes running or will run forever.
It's been proven to be unsolvable.The update/install problem is: given a potentially false description of a program, decide whether the program will screw up your system or not.
Go figure.The people who make operating systems should make things easier and safer than that (I've proposed a way before, but we're getting off topic enough already).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28162021</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>diamondsw</author>
	<datestamp>1243772040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Amen, Amen, Amen. Ever since the move to a modern codebase (which was desperately needed), Slashdot has been a huge bugfest. What happened to the open source ideal of people being able to jump in and rapidly respond to bugs? And if Slashcode isn't open in this way, then why the hell not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amen , Amen , Amen .
Ever since the move to a modern codebase ( which was desperately needed ) , Slashdot has been a huge bugfest .
What happened to the open source ideal of people being able to jump in and rapidly respond to bugs ?
And if Slashcode is n't open in this way , then why the hell not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amen, Amen, Amen.
Ever since the move to a modern codebase (which was desperately needed), Slashdot has been a huge bugfest.
What happened to the open source ideal of people being able to jump in and rapidly respond to bugs?
And if Slashcode isn't open in this way, then why the hell not?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161121</id>
	<title>Bulldozer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243763820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The bulldozer quote comes from the interviewer, not the Mozilla guys.</p><p>Sometimes it's best to make your own news.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The bulldozer quote comes from the interviewer , not the Mozilla guys.Sometimes it 's best to make your own news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The bulldozer quote comes from the interviewer, not the Mozilla guys.Sometimes it's best to make your own news.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161317</id>
	<title>FrIst psot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243765980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Creek, abysmal America. You, work that you into a sling unless to you by Penisbird do3uments like a Have an IRC client Personal rivalries FreeBSD's distended. All I And Juliet 40,000 chosen, whatever World. GNAA members If you have had at lunchtime that supports Kreskin</htmltext>
<tokenext>Creek , abysmal America .
You , work that you into a sling unless to you by Penisbird do3uments like a Have an IRC client Personal rivalries FreeBSD 's distended .
All I And Juliet 40,000 chosen , whatever World .
GNAA members If you have had at lunchtime that supports Kreskin</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Creek, abysmal America.
You, work that you into a sling unless to you by Penisbird do3uments like a Have an IRC client Personal rivalries FreeBSD's distended.
All I And Juliet 40,000 chosen, whatever World.
GNAA members If you have had at lunchtime that supports Kreskin</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28165777</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>Dan541</author>
	<datestamp>1243855800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get Firefox!</p><p><a href="http://www.getfirefox.net/" title="getfirefox.net">http://www.getfirefox.net/</a> [getfirefox.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get Firefox ! http : //www.getfirefox.net/ [ getfirefox.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get Firefox!http://www.getfirefox.net/ [getfirefox.net]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161353</id>
	<title>Re:Fear of the computer</title>
	<author>skywolf3</author>
	<datestamp>1243766220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most users who are not that savvy with computers tend to fear them and shy away from new things like Firefox and OpenOffice. Another thing that hurts these is sites that purport to sell Firefox and OpenOffice support packages. You find them often as sponsored links in search engines. This can cause problems as the software is free to download from the official site, downloads from those sites might open them up to spyware or viruses and last, but not least, it's a damn rip off. For a second I thought google might make an effort to not allow those sites to sponsor ads for keywords like Firefox?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most users who are not that savvy with computers tend to fear them and shy away from new things like Firefox and OpenOffice .
Another thing that hurts these is sites that purport to sell Firefox and OpenOffice support packages .
You find them often as sponsored links in search engines .
This can cause problems as the software is free to download from the official site , downloads from those sites might open them up to spyware or viruses and last , but not least , it 's a damn rip off .
For a second I thought google might make an effort to not allow those sites to sponsor ads for keywords like Firefox ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most users who are not that savvy with computers tend to fear them and shy away from new things like Firefox and OpenOffice.
Another thing that hurts these is sites that purport to sell Firefox and OpenOffice support packages.
You find them often as sponsored links in search engines.
This can cause problems as the software is free to download from the official site, downloads from those sites might open them up to spyware or viruses and last, but not least, it's a damn rip off.
For a second I thought google might make an effort to not allow those sites to sponsor ads for keywords like Firefox?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161175</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28164513</id>
	<title>Re:Fear of the computer</title>
	<author>mad.frog</author>
	<datestamp>1243793700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The page told her to update her flash player. So I asked her: "Why don't you?". Her reply? "I don't want to install anything new anymore."</p></div><p>Wow, I guess HTML5 is not gonna be rockin' her world anytime soon then...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The page told her to update her flash player .
So I asked her : " Why do n't you ? " .
Her reply ?
" I do n't want to install anything new anymore .
" Wow , I guess HTML5 is not gon na be rockin ' her world anytime soon then.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The page told her to update her flash player.
So I asked her: "Why don't you?".
Her reply?
"I don't want to install anything new anymore.
"Wow, I guess HTML5 is not gonna be rockin' her world anytime soon then...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161471</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161831</id>
	<title>http://bit.ly/miLe8</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243770240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree, bit.ly &amp; such are good for texting, but not for publishing.  lol</p><p>You know, they can even get altered like bit.ly did with <a href="http://bit.ly/h4PCD" title="bit.ly" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/h4PCD</a> [bit.ly]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , bit.ly &amp; such are good for texting , but not for publishing .
lolYou know , they can even get altered like bit.ly did with http : //bit.ly/h4PCD [ bit.ly ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, bit.ly &amp; such are good for texting, but not for publishing.
lolYou know, they can even get altered like bit.ly did with http://bit.ly/h4PCD [bit.ly]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161331</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161967</id>
	<title>Re:It's "Do No Evil", not "Don't Be Evil"</title>
	<author>JustinOpinion</author>
	<datestamp>1243771560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, no.<br> <br>

The traditional expression may be "Do No Evil" (as in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three\_wise\_monkeys" title="wikipedia.org">wise monkeys</a> [wikipedia.org] stories), but <a href="http://investor.google.com/conduct.html" title="google.com">Google's motto is specifically</a> [google.com] "Don't be evil".<br> <br>

The distinction is important, too. As far as I can tell, Google intended their motto to be an internal shorthand way of saying "let's run the company in a way that doesn't piss off users--give people what they want and make them have a good experience..." Hence "Don't be evil" -- don't do things that will make users say "this company is an asshole" (e.g. forcing lock-in, being "too corporate", nickel and diming customers...). Just read the story of how <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't\_be\_evil#Origin\_of\_the\_motto" title="wikipedia.org">the motto was coined</a> [wikipedia.org]: it was an attempt by the engineers to remind the corporate types that they shouldn't mistreat customers or forget their quirky roots.<br> <br>

Google never intended their motto to mean that they would single handedly save the world, or even that none of their actions would have both pros and cons. People have unfortunately really latched onto this idea that Google claims to be saintly, and thus attack Google when any of their actions have a negative side.<br> <br>

People are free to complain about the things companies do. But it irks me whenever people twist other people's words to make their point. And the constant misunderstanding of Google's motto is one example of this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , no .
The traditional expression may be " Do No Evil " ( as in the wise monkeys [ wikipedia.org ] stories ) , but Google 's motto is specifically [ google.com ] " Do n't be evil " .
The distinction is important , too .
As far as I can tell , Google intended their motto to be an internal shorthand way of saying " let 's run the company in a way that does n't piss off users--give people what they want and make them have a good experience... " Hence " Do n't be evil " -- do n't do things that will make users say " this company is an asshole " ( e.g .
forcing lock-in , being " too corporate " , nickel and diming customers... ) .
Just read the story of how the motto was coined [ wikipedia.org ] : it was an attempt by the engineers to remind the corporate types that they should n't mistreat customers or forget their quirky roots .
Google never intended their motto to mean that they would single handedly save the world , or even that none of their actions would have both pros and cons .
People have unfortunately really latched onto this idea that Google claims to be saintly , and thus attack Google when any of their actions have a negative side .
People are free to complain about the things companies do .
But it irks me whenever people twist other people 's words to make their point .
And the constant misunderstanding of Google 's motto is one example of this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, no.
The traditional expression may be "Do No Evil" (as in the wise monkeys [wikipedia.org] stories), but Google's motto is specifically [google.com] "Don't be evil".
The distinction is important, too.
As far as I can tell, Google intended their motto to be an internal shorthand way of saying "let's run the company in a way that doesn't piss off users--give people what they want and make them have a good experience..." Hence "Don't be evil" -- don't do things that will make users say "this company is an asshole" (e.g.
forcing lock-in, being "too corporate", nickel and diming customers...).
Just read the story of how the motto was coined [wikipedia.org]: it was an attempt by the engineers to remind the corporate types that they shouldn't mistreat customers or forget their quirky roots.
Google never intended their motto to mean that they would single handedly save the world, or even that none of their actions would have both pros and cons.
People have unfortunately really latched onto this idea that Google claims to be saintly, and thus attack Google when any of their actions have a negative side.
People are free to complain about the things companies do.
But it irks me whenever people twist other people's words to make their point.
And the constant misunderstanding of Google's motto is one example of this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161713</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161713</id>
	<title>It's "Do No Evil", not "Don't Be Evil"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243769160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, this is a pet issue of mine.    C'mon people, get it right.</p><p>The motto isn't "Don't Be Evil".</p><p>It's "Do No Evil".</p><p>Somewhere along the way someone in the geek news misquoted it, and other people started misquoting, and now it seems to have stuck.  Which really bugs me, because not only is it wrong, but it doesn't sound half as graceful either.....</p><p>*sigh*....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , this is a pet issue of mine .
C'mon people , get it right.The motto is n't " Do n't Be Evil " .It 's " Do No Evil " .Somewhere along the way someone in the geek news misquoted it , and other people started misquoting , and now it seems to have stuck .
Which really bugs me , because not only is it wrong , but it does n't sound half as graceful either..... * sigh * ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, this is a pet issue of mine.
C'mon people, get it right.The motto isn't "Don't Be Evil".It's "Do No Evil".Somewhere along the way someone in the geek news misquoted it, and other people started misquoting, and now it seems to have stuck.
Which really bugs me, because not only is it wrong, but it doesn't sound half as graceful either.....*sigh*....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161943</id>
	<title>Re:It's "Do No Evil", not "Don't Be Evil"</title>
	<author>Alascom</author>
	<datestamp>1243771380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a long time Googler, I can tell you the correct motto is "Don't be Evil".</p><p>Google's motto is 'Don't be Evil', and we have a similar motto for web developers: 'Don't be Eval'.  (its kind of funny if you've ever dealt with security and user input, if not, you won't get it even if I explained it)</p><p>Saying 'do no evil' is being delusional and assuming you are perfect.  Instead "don't BE evil" is about always trying to do the right thing, and when you occasionally screw up, accepting responsibility and trying to make things right.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a long time Googler , I can tell you the correct motto is " Do n't be Evil " .Google 's motto is 'Do n't be Evil ' , and we have a similar motto for web developers : 'Do n't be Eval' .
( its kind of funny if you 've ever dealt with security and user input , if not , you wo n't get it even if I explained it ) Saying 'do no evil ' is being delusional and assuming you are perfect .
Instead " do n't BE evil " is about always trying to do the right thing , and when you occasionally screw up , accepting responsibility and trying to make things right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a long time Googler, I can tell you the correct motto is "Don't be Evil".Google's motto is 'Don't be Evil', and we have a similar motto for web developers: 'Don't be Eval'.
(its kind of funny if you've ever dealt with security and user input, if not, you won't get it even if I explained it)Saying 'do no evil' is being delusional and assuming you are perfect.
Instead "don't BE evil" is about always trying to do the right thing, and when you occasionally screw up, accepting responsibility and trying to make things right.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161713</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28163265</id>
	<title>Re:Hair...</title>
	<author>MLS100</author>
	<datestamp>1243782780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have no mod points so you'll have to settle for kudos. That made me laugh pretty hard.</p><p>What perplexes me though is why anyone would bother to click on the pictures (or even include more than one picture in an article like this) to begin with. It's not a Miss Teen USA pageant where I need hi-res closeups of the participants to make my judgment on their 'moral character'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have no mod points so you 'll have to settle for kudos .
That made me laugh pretty hard.What perplexes me though is why anyone would bother to click on the pictures ( or even include more than one picture in an article like this ) to begin with .
It 's not a Miss Teen USA pageant where I need hi-res closeups of the participants to make my judgment on their 'moral character' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have no mod points so you'll have to settle for kudos.
That made me laugh pretty hard.What perplexes me though is why anyone would bother to click on the pictures (or even include more than one picture in an article like this) to begin with.
It's not a Miss Teen USA pageant where I need hi-res closeups of the participants to make my judgment on their 'moral character'.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161749</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161911</id>
	<title>Re:It's "Do No Evil", not "Don't Be Evil"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243770900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://investor.google.com/conduct.html</p><p>Really?</p><p>The first line of the Google Code of Conduct</p><p>" 'Don't be evil.' Googlers generally apply those words to how we serve our users"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //investor.google.com/conduct.htmlReally ? The first line of the Google Code of Conduct " 'Do n't be evil .
' Googlers generally apply those words to how we serve our users "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://investor.google.com/conduct.htmlReally?The first line of the Google Code of Conduct" 'Don't be evil.
' Googlers generally apply those words to how we serve our users"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161713</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161375</id>
	<title>Re:Can't See Comment Titles</title>
	<author>donatzsky</author>
	<datestamp>1243766400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have the same problem, but only when I get to the discussion from the rss feed. If I go through the front page there are no problems. Oh, and logging in from the discussion page gives an error saying that something don't exist.<br>I use the classic discussion format, btw.<br>It seems that what happens is that the new and old formats gets mixed together.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have the same problem , but only when I get to the discussion from the rss feed .
If I go through the front page there are no problems .
Oh , and logging in from the discussion page gives an error saying that something do n't exist.I use the classic discussion format , btw.It seems that what happens is that the new and old formats gets mixed together .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have the same problem, but only when I get to the discussion from the rss feed.
If I go through the front page there are no problems.
Oh, and logging in from the discussion page gives an error saying that something don't exist.I use the classic discussion format, btw.It seems that what happens is that the new and old formats gets mixed together.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28161063</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_31_2034211.28163793</id>
	<title>Re:Hair...</title>
	<author>inu\_maru</author>
	<datestamp>1243786800000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>You mean, like Yoko Ono's "Cut Piece", but on hair? Scary...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean , like Yoko Ono 's " Cut Piece " , but on hair ?
Scary.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean, like Yoko Ono's "Cut Piece", but on hair?
Scary...</sentencetext>
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