<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_05_30_2241228</id>
	<title>How American Homeless Stay Wired</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1243681920000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:theodp@aol.com" rel="nofollow">theodp</a> writes <i>"San Franciscan Charles Pitts has accounts on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Pitts/1340377541">Facebook</a>, <a href="http://www.myspace.com/poetcharles">MySpace</a> and <a href="http://twitter.com/poetcharles">Twitter</a>. He runs a Yahoo forum, reads news online and keeps in touch with friends via email. Nothing unusual, right? Except Pitts has been homeless for two years and manages this digital lifestyle from his residence under a highway bridge. Thanks to cheap computers, free Internet access and sheer determination, the WSJ reports that <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124363359881267523.html">being homeless isn't stopping some from staying wired</a>. 'You don't need a TV. You don't need a radio. You don't even need a newspaper,' says Pitts. 'But you need the Internet.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>theodp writes " San Franciscan Charles Pitts has accounts on Facebook , MySpace and Twitter .
He runs a Yahoo forum , reads news online and keeps in touch with friends via email .
Nothing unusual , right ?
Except Pitts has been homeless for two years and manages this digital lifestyle from his residence under a highway bridge .
Thanks to cheap computers , free Internet access and sheer determination , the WSJ reports that being homeless is n't stopping some from staying wired .
'You do n't need a TV .
You do n't need a radio .
You do n't even need a newspaper, ' says Pitts .
'But you need the Internet .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>theodp writes "San Franciscan Charles Pitts has accounts on Facebook, MySpace and Twitter.
He runs a Yahoo forum, reads news online and keeps in touch with friends via email.
Nothing unusual, right?
Except Pitts has been homeless for two years and manages this digital lifestyle from his residence under a highway bridge.
Thanks to cheap computers, free Internet access and sheer determination, the WSJ reports that being homeless isn't stopping some from staying wired.
'You don't need a TV.
You don't need a radio.
You don't even need a newspaper,' says Pitts.
'But you need the Internet.
'"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154021</id>
	<title>huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243689060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>slow news day is it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>slow news day is it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>slow news day is it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154745</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243696080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It might be worthwhile pointing out that the <i>reason</i> you can produce so much food is <b>because</b> you don't have the "hey let's redistribute everything!" mentality.</p><p>Besides which, with the abundance of soup kitchens and charity groups out there, I find it difficult to believe than anyone has to go dumpster diving for food.  People who do so usually have some mental issues, and wish to avoid the social interactions which are involved with seeking charity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It might be worthwhile pointing out that the reason you can produce so much food is because you do n't have the " hey let 's redistribute everything !
" mentality.Besides which , with the abundance of soup kitchens and charity groups out there , I find it difficult to believe than anyone has to go dumpster diving for food .
People who do so usually have some mental issues , and wish to avoid the social interactions which are involved with seeking charity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It might be worthwhile pointing out that the reason you can produce so much food is because you don't have the "hey let's redistribute everything!
" mentality.Besides which, with the abundance of soup kitchens and charity groups out there, I find it difficult to believe than anyone has to go dumpster diving for food.
People who do so usually have some mental issues, and wish to avoid the social interactions which are involved with seeking charity.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154217</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154101</id>
	<title>Japanese Version</title>
	<author>lobiusmoop</author>
	<datestamp>1243689780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Japan, they <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7953609.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">move into internet cafes</a> [bbc.co.uk]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Japan , they move into internet cafes [ bbc.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Japan, they move into internet cafes [bbc.co.uk]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155819</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243708080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wow. Seriously, people, wow. I'm not a historian, but I wonder if there's ever been a period in history where the fortunate were so incredibly delusional about how lucky they are, and actually believe that anyone else fortunate than themselves is just lazy. You don't really believe this, do you? Do you really think that someone would PREFER to live under a bridge, enduring inclement weather, harassment from the police and the threat of violence from others on the street, rather than get a job, work, and rent a cheap apartment where, at the very least, they're inside out of the rain? My God. You don't really think it's that easy out there, where you can get a job just because you're able to organize stuff without much difficulty? if so, I hope that you and the others posting the like on this article never lose your jobs and become homeless, for your own sakes; you're so clueless that you wouldn't last a month, let alone long enough to get another job and a place to live.</p></div><p>Most unemplyed people are fit for work but once you have been unemplyed for a while few employers want to know you as they see you as unemployable, not unfit for work. Once that happens it is very very hard to get work. Ask most people working freelance in the arts world.</p><p>miow.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
Seriously , people , wow .
I 'm not a historian , but I wonder if there 's ever been a period in history where the fortunate were so incredibly delusional about how lucky they are , and actually believe that anyone else fortunate than themselves is just lazy .
You do n't really believe this , do you ?
Do you really think that someone would PREFER to live under a bridge , enduring inclement weather , harassment from the police and the threat of violence from others on the street , rather than get a job , work , and rent a cheap apartment where , at the very least , they 're inside out of the rain ?
My God .
You do n't really think it 's that easy out there , where you can get a job just because you 're able to organize stuff without much difficulty ?
if so , I hope that you and the others posting the like on this article never lose your jobs and become homeless , for your own sakes ; you 're so clueless that you would n't last a month , let alone long enough to get another job and a place to live.Most unemplyed people are fit for work but once you have been unemplyed for a while few employers want to know you as they see you as unemployable , not unfit for work .
Once that happens it is very very hard to get work .
Ask most people working freelance in the arts world.miow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
Seriously, people, wow.
I'm not a historian, but I wonder if there's ever been a period in history where the fortunate were so incredibly delusional about how lucky they are, and actually believe that anyone else fortunate than themselves is just lazy.
You don't really believe this, do you?
Do you really think that someone would PREFER to live under a bridge, enduring inclement weather, harassment from the police and the threat of violence from others on the street, rather than get a job, work, and rent a cheap apartment where, at the very least, they're inside out of the rain?
My God.
You don't really think it's that easy out there, where you can get a job just because you're able to organize stuff without much difficulty?
if so, I hope that you and the others posting the like on this article never lose your jobs and become homeless, for your own sakes; you're so clueless that you wouldn't last a month, let alone long enough to get another job and a place to live.Most unemplyed people are fit for work but once you have been unemplyed for a while few employers want to know you as they see you as unemployable, not unfit for work.
Once that happens it is very very hard to get work.
Ask most people working freelance in the arts world.miow.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155121</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154573</id>
	<title>How hard is to find jobs today</title>
	<author>Ektanoor</author>
	<datestamp>1243693920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just remembered an episode that occurred not so long ago.</p><p>This comes from third persons but I know the guy who was trying to get the job. An average sysadmin but systematic and hardworking.</p><p>When he was about to be layed off, people tried to find him a job on a business partner. The partner was having some pretty bad time with its networks. They are highly critical and shall run non-stop (something related to medicine btw). Now, lately, for several times the servers went down. There was even a hangup that lasted nearly half a day, a catasthrophe in their way of working. Things were so bad that, for some time, it was the company where this guy was working that was supporting their servers.</p><p>They naturally "offered" to their partner this guy. The partner refused. The guy went to the street. The problems kept creeping on.</p><p>Now, on that company, they were keeping four jerks. They didn't create these servers, they didn't support them and they even didn't know what was running there. Their job? "System Administrator".</p><p>I ain't talking about a little company. And this case is not the craziest I have been told of. But that what is happening. Good and average specialists are being sent to the streets while companies burn down departments or keep God knows who doing administration.</p><p>So, during this crisis, high-tech geeky homeless and unemployed is pretty natural to occur. More, with management going nuts in some companies, there is a good chance that some of the top experts find themselves on the street.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just remembered an episode that occurred not so long ago.This comes from third persons but I know the guy who was trying to get the job .
An average sysadmin but systematic and hardworking.When he was about to be layed off , people tried to find him a job on a business partner .
The partner was having some pretty bad time with its networks .
They are highly critical and shall run non-stop ( something related to medicine btw ) .
Now , lately , for several times the servers went down .
There was even a hangup that lasted nearly half a day , a catasthrophe in their way of working .
Things were so bad that , for some time , it was the company where this guy was working that was supporting their servers.They naturally " offered " to their partner this guy .
The partner refused .
The guy went to the street .
The problems kept creeping on.Now , on that company , they were keeping four jerks .
They did n't create these servers , they did n't support them and they even did n't know what was running there .
Their job ?
" System Administrator " .I ai n't talking about a little company .
And this case is not the craziest I have been told of .
But that what is happening .
Good and average specialists are being sent to the streets while companies burn down departments or keep God knows who doing administration.So , during this crisis , high-tech geeky homeless and unemployed is pretty natural to occur .
More , with management going nuts in some companies , there is a good chance that some of the top experts find themselves on the street .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just remembered an episode that occurred not so long ago.This comes from third persons but I know the guy who was trying to get the job.
An average sysadmin but systematic and hardworking.When he was about to be layed off, people tried to find him a job on a business partner.
The partner was having some pretty bad time with its networks.
They are highly critical and shall run non-stop (something related to medicine btw).
Now, lately, for several times the servers went down.
There was even a hangup that lasted nearly half a day, a catasthrophe in their way of working.
Things were so bad that, for some time, it was the company where this guy was working that was supporting their servers.They naturally "offered" to their partner this guy.
The partner refused.
The guy went to the street.
The problems kept creeping on.Now, on that company, they were keeping four jerks.
They didn't create these servers, they didn't support them and they even didn't know what was running there.
Their job?
"System Administrator".I ain't talking about a little company.
And this case is not the craziest I have been told of.
But that what is happening.
Good and average specialists are being sent to the streets while companies burn down departments or keep God knows who doing administration.So, during this crisis, high-tech geeky homeless and unemployed is pretty natural to occur.
More, with management going nuts in some companies, there is a good chance that some of the top experts find themselves on the street.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28159139</id>
	<title>Re:Brought back memories</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243792500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I was homeless between Aug-2003 to July-2004. One day I had no money to buy two rice cakes which used to cost less than<nobr> <wbr></nobr><b>.25 cents.</b></p> </div><p>So I take it Verizon fired you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was homeless between Aug-2003 to July-2004 .
One day I had no money to buy two rice cakes which used to cost less than .25 cents .
So I take it Verizon fired you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was homeless between Aug-2003 to July-2004.
One day I had no money to buy two rice cakes which used to cost less than .25 cents.
So I take it Verizon fired you?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153791</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156649</id>
	<title>Re:Puhleeeeeeze... give me a break with the rhetor</title>
	<author>mathman47</author>
	<datestamp>1243764060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quite a bit actually.  We found things moving in the pasta.  Meal bugs.  They don't like lasagna noodles.  At least the pantry is clean and we can see all the labels on the cans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Quite a bit actually .
We found things moving in the pasta .
Meal bugs .
They do n't like lasagna noodles .
At least the pantry is clean and we can see all the labels on the cans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quite a bit actually.
We found things moving in the pasta.
Meal bugs.
They don't like lasagna noodles.
At least the pantry is clean and we can see all the labels on the cans.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155855</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156267</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Dasher42</author>
	<datestamp>1243713300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You tell it!  My family came all too close to where you're at, and anyone who thinks that you go homeless simply from drugs or no will to work is clueless.  A bad job market or bad home situation can do all kinds of things.  Kudos to you for surviving all that, and I hope it never happens to you again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You tell it !
My family came all too close to where you 're at , and anyone who thinks that you go homeless simply from drugs or no will to work is clueless .
A bad job market or bad home situation can do all kinds of things .
Kudos to you for surviving all that , and I hope it never happens to you again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You tell it!
My family came all too close to where you're at, and anyone who thinks that you go homeless simply from drugs or no will to work is clueless.
A bad job market or bad home situation can do all kinds of things.
Kudos to you for surviving all that, and I hope it never happens to you again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155061</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153695</id>
	<title>he's a troll!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243686720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...from his residence under a highway bridge.</p></div><p>Sometimes you just gotta hand it to a troll for sheer dedication. (+1, troll?)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...from his residence under a highway bridge.Sometimes you just got ta hand it to a troll for sheer dedication .
( + 1 , troll ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...from his residence under a highway bridge.Sometimes you just gotta hand it to a troll for sheer dedication.
(+1, troll?
)
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155871</id>
	<title>Re:Brought back memories</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243708800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I used the same computer to write students CS assignments and complete their projects in the night time for the money.</p><p>PS: English is not my first language and I've only 10th grade school education.</p></div><p>So you're the one who wrote all the terrible CS assignments I had to barely pass, so that their submitter could go on to "earn" a degree that was the same as mine?  I hope you're proud of yourself.  No wonder I have so many CS degree holders coming in for an interview who know absolutely nothing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I used the same computer to write students CS assignments and complete their projects in the night time for the money.PS : English is not my first language and I 've only 10th grade school education.So you 're the one who wrote all the terrible CS assignments I had to barely pass , so that their submitter could go on to " earn " a degree that was the same as mine ?
I hope you 're proud of yourself .
No wonder I have so many CS degree holders coming in for an interview who know absolutely nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used the same computer to write students CS assignments and complete their projects in the night time for the money.PS: English is not my first language and I've only 10th grade school education.So you're the one who wrote all the terrible CS assignments I had to barely pass, so that their submitter could go on to "earn" a degree that was the same as mine?
I hope you're proud of yourself.
No wonder I have so many CS degree holders coming in for an interview who know absolutely nothing.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153791</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28204437</id>
	<title>hes a firefox user</title>
	<author>m0n</author>
	<datestamp>1244037960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Charles is pretty cool
He even uses firefox</htmltext>
<tokenext>Charles is pretty cool He even uses firefox</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Charles is pretty cool
He even uses firefox</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153685</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Meshach</author>
	<datestamp>1243686600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It sounds like he is not interested in finding a job.  Someone capable of coordinating their life that well is probably employable.  For some reason he dose not want to work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounds like he is not interested in finding a job .
Someone capable of coordinating their life that well is probably employable .
For some reason he dose not want to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounds like he is not interested in finding a job.
Someone capable of coordinating their life that well is probably employable.
For some reason he dose not want to work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153535</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155711</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Gerzel</author>
	<datestamp>1243706760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reason for high production is because of a certain decision of what that production will be used for?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason for high production is because of a certain decision of what that production will be used for ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason for high production is because of a certain decision of what that production will be used for?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154745</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155389</id>
	<title>Share-wear.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243702800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Sitting in a Whole Foods store with free wireless access, Mr. Weston searches for work and writes a computer program he hopes to sell eventually."</p><p>Well if P2P doesn't get him, free software will.</p><p>Now the thing that comes to me reading this story is that smart phones which are essentially computers would work better for someone homeless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Sitting in a Whole Foods store with free wireless access , Mr. Weston searches for work and writes a computer program he hopes to sell eventually .
" Well if P2P does n't get him , free software will.Now the thing that comes to me reading this story is that smart phones which are essentially computers would work better for someone homeless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Sitting in a Whole Foods store with free wireless access, Mr. Weston searches for work and writes a computer program he hopes to sell eventually.
"Well if P2P doesn't get him, free software will.Now the thing that comes to me reading this story is that smart phones which are essentially computers would work better for someone homeless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155917</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243709160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>made up imo</htmltext>
<tokenext>made up imo</tokentext>
<sentencetext>made up imo</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155061</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155365</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243702740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't know that there were that many homeless Slashdotters.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't know that there were that many homeless Slashdotters .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't know that there were that many homeless Slashdotters.
:-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153599</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28162135</id>
	<title>Join the Military</title>
	<author>WebmasterNeal</author>
	<datestamp>1243773120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think If I became homeless (or even the months leading up to becoming homeless) I'd probably resort to joining one of the branches of the military. Sure getting yelled at all day might suck, but at least I'd have 3 hots and a cot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think If I became homeless ( or even the months leading up to becoming homeless ) I 'd probably resort to joining one of the branches of the military .
Sure getting yelled at all day might suck , but at least I 'd have 3 hots and a cot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think If I became homeless (or even the months leading up to becoming homeless) I'd probably resort to joining one of the branches of the military.
Sure getting yelled at all day might suck, but at least I'd have 3 hots and a cot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155061</id>
	<title>You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness .....</title>
	<author>TechnoGrl</author>
	<datestamp>1243699980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Until You've been homeless.  I know.  I've been there.  With all my progressive thinking, I knew nothing about it.</p><p>In 2000-01 I was making 6 figures working as a Senior Developer in Los Angeles.  I lost my job after Bush and 911.  I sent out over 300 resumes in a 3 month period - not one single response.  I had 6 months income saved .  By month 7 I was sleeping on friends couches.  Previously I had been able to get a new contract within 2 weeks tops.  I borrowed several thousand from friends to keep me in monthly hotels - I was good for it.  I always had been working right?</p><p>By month 12 I was sleeping in my car.  I took temp jobs driving buses and I took temp IT jobs doing data entry at 10 bucks an hour.  You know how well you can live on 10 bucks an hour in CA  when you have no more money?  Not very well. Get an apartment ?  With what?  10 bucks an hour?</p><p>By month 22 I was starting to live in shelters.  And I saw things.  Things I would rather not ever have seen.  I saw people in bloody bandages, terrible dirty and out of their mind being laughed at and made fun of by city shelter workers.  I saw it took over an hour to get in line to take a shower.  I drug addiction, mental illness and hopelessness standing right next to me every single day.  I saw my self confidence die along with my job prospects.  Most importantly I saw that nobody really cared.</p><p>You think there are State run programs to help people out there.  I am here to tell you you are so so wrong.  It;s all a sham.  There are a very few.  Very few.  Most are fronts just to make it seem like something is being done.  Nothing is.  I've seen it.  I've been there.</p><p>You haven't seen it.  You don't know.</p><p>There are very few programs out there and by using the library internet I found one for Women Vets.  I got small IT jobs and was able to keep them now that I had food shelter and safety.  I worked my way back up the ladder again.  Now I make about half of whay I used to - but we all are now - unless you're a banker.</p><p>Friends, Family??  I left home at 19 and an Ivy League University - joined the military to continue college.  My family were bad people.  Rich, but very bad.  How Bad?  I begged to sleep on a couch with one of them.  I told them I slept behind a church last night - in the open.  My family refused.  Good luck.  Don't assume all families are like yours.  I assure you they are not.</p><p>There's a lot more I could say.  More that needs to be said.  But I've said enough.  It's the rich greedy sons and daughters of bitches who think nothing of others and thing only how to get more to themselves that post about how homeless people bring it all on themselves.  Well some do.  And some are just broken down by the process.  Those people need help. Where is their help?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Until You 've been homeless .
I know .
I 've been there .
With all my progressive thinking , I knew nothing about it.In 2000-01 I was making 6 figures working as a Senior Developer in Los Angeles .
I lost my job after Bush and 911 .
I sent out over 300 resumes in a 3 month period - not one single response .
I had 6 months income saved .
By month 7 I was sleeping on friends couches .
Previously I had been able to get a new contract within 2 weeks tops .
I borrowed several thousand from friends to keep me in monthly hotels - I was good for it .
I always had been working right ? By month 12 I was sleeping in my car .
I took temp jobs driving buses and I took temp IT jobs doing data entry at 10 bucks an hour .
You know how well you can live on 10 bucks an hour in CA when you have no more money ?
Not very well .
Get an apartment ?
With what ?
10 bucks an hour ? By month 22 I was starting to live in shelters .
And I saw things .
Things I would rather not ever have seen .
I saw people in bloody bandages , terrible dirty and out of their mind being laughed at and made fun of by city shelter workers .
I saw it took over an hour to get in line to take a shower .
I drug addiction , mental illness and hopelessness standing right next to me every single day .
I saw my self confidence die along with my job prospects .
Most importantly I saw that nobody really cared.You think there are State run programs to help people out there .
I am here to tell you you are so so wrong .
It ; s all a sham .
There are a very few .
Very few .
Most are fronts just to make it seem like something is being done .
Nothing is .
I 've seen it .
I 've been there.You have n't seen it .
You do n't know.There are very few programs out there and by using the library internet I found one for Women Vets .
I got small IT jobs and was able to keep them now that I had food shelter and safety .
I worked my way back up the ladder again .
Now I make about half of whay I used to - but we all are now - unless you 're a banker.Friends , Family ? ?
I left home at 19 and an Ivy League University - joined the military to continue college .
My family were bad people .
Rich , but very bad .
How Bad ?
I begged to sleep on a couch with one of them .
I told them I slept behind a church last night - in the open .
My family refused .
Good luck .
Do n't assume all families are like yours .
I assure you they are not.There 's a lot more I could say .
More that needs to be said .
But I 've said enough .
It 's the rich greedy sons and daughters of bitches who think nothing of others and thing only how to get more to themselves that post about how homeless people bring it all on themselves .
Well some do .
And some are just broken down by the process .
Those people need help .
Where is their help ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until You've been homeless.
I know.
I've been there.
With all my progressive thinking, I knew nothing about it.In 2000-01 I was making 6 figures working as a Senior Developer in Los Angeles.
I lost my job after Bush and 911.
I sent out over 300 resumes in a 3 month period - not one single response.
I had 6 months income saved .
By month 7 I was sleeping on friends couches.
Previously I had been able to get a new contract within 2 weeks tops.
I borrowed several thousand from friends to keep me in monthly hotels - I was good for it.
I always had been working right?By month 12 I was sleeping in my car.
I took temp jobs driving buses and I took temp IT jobs doing data entry at 10 bucks an hour.
You know how well you can live on 10 bucks an hour in CA  when you have no more money?
Not very well.
Get an apartment ?
With what?
10 bucks an hour?By month 22 I was starting to live in shelters.
And I saw things.
Things I would rather not ever have seen.
I saw people in bloody bandages, terrible dirty and out of their mind being laughed at and made fun of by city shelter workers.
I saw it took over an hour to get in line to take a shower.
I drug addiction, mental illness and hopelessness standing right next to me every single day.
I saw my self confidence die along with my job prospects.
Most importantly I saw that nobody really cared.You think there are State run programs to help people out there.
I am here to tell you you are so so wrong.
It;s all a sham.
There are a very few.
Very few.
Most are fronts just to make it seem like something is being done.
Nothing is.
I've seen it.
I've been there.You haven't seen it.
You don't know.There are very few programs out there and by using the library internet I found one for Women Vets.
I got small IT jobs and was able to keep them now that I had food shelter and safety.
I worked my way back up the ladder again.
Now I make about half of whay I used to - but we all are now - unless you're a banker.Friends, Family??
I left home at 19 and an Ivy League University - joined the military to continue college.
My family were bad people.
Rich, but very bad.
How Bad?
I begged to sleep on a couch with one of them.
I told them I slept behind a church last night - in the open.
My family refused.
Good luck.
Don't assume all families are like yours.
I assure you they are not.There's a lot more I could say.
More that needs to be said.
But I've said enough.
It's the rich greedy sons and daughters of bitches who think nothing of others and thing only how to get more to themselves that post about how homeless people bring it all on themselves.
Well some do.
And some are just broken down by the process.
Those people need help.
Where is their help?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156045</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243711140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wonder if there's ever been a period in history where the fortunate were so incredibly delusional about how lucky they are, and actually believe that anyone else fortunate than themselves is just lazy.</p></div><p>Uh, every period of history?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if there 's ever been a period in history where the fortunate were so incredibly delusional about how lucky they are , and actually believe that anyone else fortunate than themselves is just lazy.Uh , every period of history ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if there's ever been a period in history where the fortunate were so incredibly delusional about how lucky they are, and actually believe that anyone else fortunate than themselves is just lazy.Uh, every period of history?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155417</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243703100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Could have gone back to the military once you were destitute...fine living, good pay and great health benefits.  Decent retirement after 20.</p><p>"Another glorious day in the Corps! A day in the Marine Corps is like a day on the farm. Every meal's a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune! Every formation a parade! I LOVE the Corps! "<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could have gone back to the military once you were destitute...fine living , good pay and great health benefits .
Decent retirement after 20 .
" Another glorious day in the Corps !
A day in the Marine Corps is like a day on the farm .
Every meal 's a banquet !
Every paycheck a fortune !
Every formation a parade !
I LOVE the Corps !
"  </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could have gone back to the military once you were destitute...fine living, good pay and great health benefits.
Decent retirement after 20.
"Another glorious day in the Corps!
A day in the Marine Corps is like a day on the farm.
Every meal's a banquet!
Every paycheck a fortune!
Every formation a parade!
I LOVE the Corps!
"
 </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28160603</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>mattwarden</author>
	<datestamp>1243803360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Zzzzz...</p><p>Wake me up when big government stops paying "farmers" NOT to grow food.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Zzzzz...Wake me up when big government stops paying " farmers " NOT to grow food .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Zzzzz...Wake me up when big government stops paying "farmers" NOT to grow food.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28188037</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243937880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe you're just quite emotional, but you seem rather confused.<p><div class="quote"><p>You think there are State run programs to help people out there.</p><p>I saw people<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... made fun of by city shelter workers.</p></div><p>So there are state run programs?  But they are (in your opinion) inadequate? Or the low wage ($10/hour?) shelter workers putting up with crazies and junkies all day are not sympathetic enough for you?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I had 6 months income saved . By month 7 I was sleeping on friends couches. Previously I had been able to get a new contract within 2 weeks tops.</p></div><p>Wow. So when you sent out hundreds of resumes with no response, it didn't occur to you at all to cut your expenses? And maybe you even spent more? (seems probable since you had enough income before to save up some money, but still managed to have the eviction process -- normally at least 30 days -- started within six months) That seems like really bad planning.  I mean, if you were making 6 figures, as you say, 6 months income is more than 50 grand.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I got small IT jobs and was able to keep them now that I had food shelter and safety.</p></div><p>Shelter and safety where?  One of those sham shelters you mention?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>My family were bad people. Rich, but very bad. How Bad? I begged to sleep on a couch with one of them. I told them I slept behind a church last night - in the open. My family refused.</p></div><p>I really can't relate to that. Sounds like there is a lot more there that just "they're not nice", but ok.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>...post about how homeless people bring it all on themselves. Well some do. And some are just broken down by the process.</p></div><p>And given the story you've told (which I'm not sure I buy. If you went through all that, sorry to hear it), which end of the spectrum are you closer to? The median household income in LA was only $39K per year in 2002.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Maybe you 're just quite emotional , but you seem rather confused.You think there are State run programs to help people out there.I saw people ... made fun of by city shelter workers.So there are state run programs ?
But they are ( in your opinion ) inadequate ?
Or the low wage ( $ 10/hour ?
) shelter workers putting up with crazies and junkies all day are not sympathetic enough for you ? I had 6 months income saved .
By month 7 I was sleeping on friends couches .
Previously I had been able to get a new contract within 2 weeks tops.Wow .
So when you sent out hundreds of resumes with no response , it did n't occur to you at all to cut your expenses ?
And maybe you even spent more ?
( seems probable since you had enough income before to save up some money , but still managed to have the eviction process -- normally at least 30 days -- started within six months ) That seems like really bad planning .
I mean , if you were making 6 figures , as you say , 6 months income is more than 50 grand.I got small IT jobs and was able to keep them now that I had food shelter and safety.Shelter and safety where ?
One of those sham shelters you mention ? My family were bad people .
Rich , but very bad .
How Bad ?
I begged to sleep on a couch with one of them .
I told them I slept behind a church last night - in the open .
My family refused.I really ca n't relate to that .
Sounds like there is a lot more there that just " they 're not nice " , but ok....post about how homeless people bring it all on themselves .
Well some do .
And some are just broken down by the process.And given the story you 've told ( which I 'm not sure I buy .
If you went through all that , sorry to hear it ) , which end of the spectrum are you closer to ?
The median household income in LA was only $ 39K per year in 2002 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe you're just quite emotional, but you seem rather confused.You think there are State run programs to help people out there.I saw people ... made fun of by city shelter workers.So there are state run programs?
But they are (in your opinion) inadequate?
Or the low wage ($10/hour?
) shelter workers putting up with crazies and junkies all day are not sympathetic enough for you?I had 6 months income saved .
By month 7 I was sleeping on friends couches.
Previously I had been able to get a new contract within 2 weeks tops.Wow.
So when you sent out hundreds of resumes with no response, it didn't occur to you at all to cut your expenses?
And maybe you even spent more?
(seems probable since you had enough income before to save up some money, but still managed to have the eviction process -- normally at least 30 days -- started within six months) That seems like really bad planning.
I mean, if you were making 6 figures, as you say, 6 months income is more than 50 grand.I got small IT jobs and was able to keep them now that I had food shelter and safety.Shelter and safety where?
One of those sham shelters you mention?My family were bad people.
Rich, but very bad.
How Bad?
I begged to sleep on a couch with one of them.
I told them I slept behind a church last night - in the open.
My family refused.I really can't relate to that.
Sounds like there is a lot more there that just "they're not nice", but ok....post about how homeless people bring it all on themselves.
Well some do.
And some are just broken down by the process.And given the story you've told (which I'm not sure I buy.
If you went through all that, sorry to hear it), which end of the spectrum are you closer to?
The median household income in LA was only $39K per year in 2002.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156659</id>
	<title>Reason #93902340943 not to give to our homeless</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243764240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just got back from a 3rd world country... now that's real fucking homeless people. I could barely get wifi in my hotel room, yet this homeless faggot steals it from under a bridge using a laptop?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just got back from a 3rd world country... now that 's real fucking homeless people .
I could barely get wifi in my hotel room , yet this homeless faggot steals it from under a bridge using a laptop ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just got back from a 3rd world country... now that's real fucking homeless people.
I could barely get wifi in my hotel room, yet this homeless faggot steals it from under a bridge using a laptop?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153731</id>
	<title>The real question</title>
	<author>schrodingers\_rabbit</author>
	<datestamp>1243687020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is how he posts through the roar of highway noise. Then again, his parents will never force him to turn of the computer and go outside.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is how he posts through the roar of highway noise .
Then again , his parents will never force him to turn of the computer and go outside .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is how he posts through the roar of highway noise.
Then again, his parents will never force him to turn of the computer and go outside.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154217</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>AlHunt</author>
	<datestamp>1243690560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It's also a good reminder of how much in America goes to waste.</p></div> </blockquote><p>
<a href="http://www.endhunger.org/usa\_hunger.htm" title="endhunger.org">3,304 pounds of food per second. 263,013,699 pounds of food every day. 1.5 tons of food per year for every person in America.</a> [endhunger.org] </p><p> A couple of decades ago, Harry Chapin said something like "In a country where we produce enough food to feed the entire planet 6 times over, it's unthinkable that anybody shouldn't have enough to eat".  Not much has changed in the interim.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's also a good reminder of how much in America goes to waste .
3,304 pounds of food per second .
263,013,699 pounds of food every day .
1.5 tons of food per year for every person in America .
[ endhunger.org ] A couple of decades ago , Harry Chapin said something like " In a country where we produce enough food to feed the entire planet 6 times over , it 's unthinkable that anybody should n't have enough to eat " .
Not much has changed in the interim .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's also a good reminder of how much in America goes to waste.
3,304 pounds of food per second.
263,013,699 pounds of food every day.
1.5 tons of food per year for every person in America.
[endhunger.org]  A couple of decades ago, Harry Chapin said something like "In a country where we produce enough food to feed the entire planet 6 times over, it's unthinkable that anybody shouldn't have enough to eat".
Not much has changed in the interim.

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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155121</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Mistshadow2k4</author>
	<datestamp>1243700520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow. Seriously, people, wow. I'm not a historian, but I wonder if there's ever been a period in history where the fortunate were so incredibly delusional about how lucky they are, and actually believe that anyone else fortunate than themselves is just lazy. You don't really believe this, do you? Do you really think that someone would PREFER to live under a bridge, enduring inclement weather, harassment from the police and the threat of violence from others on the street, rather than get a job, work, and rent a cheap apartment where, at the very least, they're inside out of the rain? My God. You don't really think it's that easy out there, where you can get a job just because you're able to organize stuff without much difficulty? if so, I hope that you and the others posting the like on this article never lose your jobs and become homeless, for your own sakes; you're so clueless that you wouldn't last a month, let alone long enough to get another job and a place to live.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
Seriously , people , wow .
I 'm not a historian , but I wonder if there 's ever been a period in history where the fortunate were so incredibly delusional about how lucky they are , and actually believe that anyone else fortunate than themselves is just lazy .
You do n't really believe this , do you ?
Do you really think that someone would PREFER to live under a bridge , enduring inclement weather , harassment from the police and the threat of violence from others on the street , rather than get a job , work , and rent a cheap apartment where , at the very least , they 're inside out of the rain ?
My God .
You do n't really think it 's that easy out there , where you can get a job just because you 're able to organize stuff without much difficulty ?
if so , I hope that you and the others posting the like on this article never lose your jobs and become homeless , for your own sakes ; you 're so clueless that you would n't last a month , let alone long enough to get another job and a place to live .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
Seriously, people, wow.
I'm not a historian, but I wonder if there's ever been a period in history where the fortunate were so incredibly delusional about how lucky they are, and actually believe that anyone else fortunate than themselves is just lazy.
You don't really believe this, do you?
Do you really think that someone would PREFER to live under a bridge, enduring inclement weather, harassment from the police and the threat of violence from others on the street, rather than get a job, work, and rent a cheap apartment where, at the very least, they're inside out of the rain?
My God.
You don't really think it's that easy out there, where you can get a job just because you're able to organize stuff without much difficulty?
if so, I hope that you and the others posting the like on this article never lose your jobs and become homeless, for your own sakes; you're so clueless that you wouldn't last a month, let alone long enough to get another job and a place to live.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28160375</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1243801860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The homeless in this town kind of go about things backwards. Or maybe we just have unsavory homeless people. They will occasionally throw themselves in front of a moving vehicle in the downtown area for the free painkillers and/or suing the person (often a nice vehicle). And a couple of the ones I've offered to share food with upon a request for money get pissed off - most likely because they want the money for drugs/smokes/alcohol, not for food.</p><p>Oh well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The homeless in this town kind of go about things backwards .
Or maybe we just have unsavory homeless people .
They will occasionally throw themselves in front of a moving vehicle in the downtown area for the free painkillers and/or suing the person ( often a nice vehicle ) .
And a couple of the ones I 've offered to share food with upon a request for money get pissed off - most likely because they want the money for drugs/smokes/alcohol , not for food.Oh well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The homeless in this town kind of go about things backwards.
Or maybe we just have unsavory homeless people.
They will occasionally throw themselves in front of a moving vehicle in the downtown area for the free painkillers and/or suing the person (often a nice vehicle).
And a couple of the ones I've offered to share food with upon a request for money get pissed off - most likely because they want the money for drugs/smokes/alcohol, not for food.Oh well.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153535</id>
	<title>And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243685640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>they can't seem to find a job.</htmltext>
<tokenext>they ca n't seem to find a job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they can't seem to find a job.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154275</id>
	<title>I just knew it!</title>
	<author>aquickone</author>
	<datestamp>1243691100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I knew those bums were buying computers will all that money they were begging for! I just knew it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I knew those bums were buying computers will all that money they were begging for !
I just knew it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I knew those bums were buying computers will all that money they were begging for!
I just knew it!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156447</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>TechnoGrl</author>
	<datestamp>1243803420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I need to answer your question in another way as well.<br>You asked: What is it about the military that leads to homelessness and not having a normal life.</p><p>I'll tell you what that is and you will not like the answer.</p><p>Me, I worked in a combat medical field unit as an Operating Room Technician and a Field Medic.  It was the only thing I was comfortable doing in the Army.  Helping people - saving lives.  I did a lot of both and although I am NOT a military supporter I am proud of what I did.</p><p>Most people in the military , especially men, go into jobs that involve killing people.<br>Let me say that again - Killing people.  Killing people is Job #1.  Even in the Medical Corps we were told again and again "You are soldiers first and medics second"  ( we gave the people telling us that the finger behind their backs of course)</p><p>We are all brought up to believe that killing people is wrong.  Thou shall not murder.</p><p>The military has a way around this by creating a culture of dehumanizing the enemy du jour - and other ways.<br>Killing is a part and parcel of Army culture.<br>You ever see the shirts that say "Join the Army , Travel to interesting places meet interesting people and Kill them"</p><p>You might think that's an interesting snarky comment on military culture.<br>It is not.  The infantry people I saw who wore those shirts were 100\% percent serious about the message.<br>Not Snark.  A way of life</p><p>That's what it's like being in the Army.</p><p>And God forbid you actually end up in a war and have to go meet interesting men women and children and kill them - you are in a culture that tells you that you did nothing wrong.  In fact it rewards you - Hooo Aaa!</p><p>And all that is well and good until you return to civilian life, laws and the Ten Commandments again and it hits you:<br>"My God, what have I done!"</p><p>And you can tell no one because no one outside of the military could possibly understand.  And you can't wear your T-shirt anymore either.</p><p>So you turn to alcohol or drugs and you can't sleep at night and you go slowly crazy.  And you can't hold your job and you realize that you were not the person that you used to think you were.  And you never will be again.</p><p>That didn't happen to me.<br>But I saw it happen over and over again to people that I knew.  People who shot other people.  Who killed interesting people.  How can you go into Church ever again you wonder?</p><p>Oh and by the way - That war.  It was all about the oil anyway.</p><p>So that's the problem - that's why so many American military people end up the way that they do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I need to answer your question in another way as well.You asked : What is it about the military that leads to homelessness and not having a normal life.I 'll tell you what that is and you will not like the answer.Me , I worked in a combat medical field unit as an Operating Room Technician and a Field Medic .
It was the only thing I was comfortable doing in the Army .
Helping people - saving lives .
I did a lot of both and although I am NOT a military supporter I am proud of what I did.Most people in the military , especially men , go into jobs that involve killing people.Let me say that again - Killing people .
Killing people is Job # 1 .
Even in the Medical Corps we were told again and again " You are soldiers first and medics second " ( we gave the people telling us that the finger behind their backs of course ) We are all brought up to believe that killing people is wrong .
Thou shall not murder.The military has a way around this by creating a culture of dehumanizing the enemy du jour - and other ways.Killing is a part and parcel of Army culture.You ever see the shirts that say " Join the Army , Travel to interesting places meet interesting people and Kill them " You might think that 's an interesting snarky comment on military culture.It is not .
The infantry people I saw who wore those shirts were 100 \ % percent serious about the message.Not Snark .
A way of lifeThat 's what it 's like being in the Army.And God forbid you actually end up in a war and have to go meet interesting men women and children and kill them - you are in a culture that tells you that you did nothing wrong .
In fact it rewards you - Hooo Aaa ! And all that is well and good until you return to civilian life , laws and the Ten Commandments again and it hits you : " My God , what have I done !
" And you can tell no one because no one outside of the military could possibly understand .
And you ca n't wear your T-shirt anymore either.So you turn to alcohol or drugs and you ca n't sleep at night and you go slowly crazy .
And you ca n't hold your job and you realize that you were not the person that you used to think you were .
And you never will be again.That did n't happen to me.But I saw it happen over and over again to people that I knew .
People who shot other people .
Who killed interesting people .
How can you go into Church ever again you wonder ? Oh and by the way - That war .
It was all about the oil anyway.So that 's the problem - that 's why so many American military people end up the way that they do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I need to answer your question in another way as well.You asked: What is it about the military that leads to homelessness and not having a normal life.I'll tell you what that is and you will not like the answer.Me, I worked in a combat medical field unit as an Operating Room Technician and a Field Medic.
It was the only thing I was comfortable doing in the Army.
Helping people - saving lives.
I did a lot of both and although I am NOT a military supporter I am proud of what I did.Most people in the military , especially men, go into jobs that involve killing people.Let me say that again - Killing people.
Killing people is Job #1.
Even in the Medical Corps we were told again and again "You are soldiers first and medics second"  ( we gave the people telling us that the finger behind their backs of course)We are all brought up to believe that killing people is wrong.
Thou shall not murder.The military has a way around this by creating a culture of dehumanizing the enemy du jour - and other ways.Killing is a part and parcel of Army culture.You ever see the shirts that say "Join the Army , Travel to interesting places meet interesting people and Kill them"You might think that's an interesting snarky comment on military culture.It is not.
The infantry people I saw who wore those shirts were 100\% percent serious about the message.Not Snark.
A way of lifeThat's what it's like being in the Army.And God forbid you actually end up in a war and have to go meet interesting men women and children and kill them - you are in a culture that tells you that you did nothing wrong.
In fact it rewards you - Hooo Aaa!And all that is well and good until you return to civilian life, laws and the Ten Commandments again and it hits you:"My God, what have I done!
"And you can tell no one because no one outside of the military could possibly understand.
And you can't wear your T-shirt anymore either.So you turn to alcohol or drugs and you can't sleep at night and you go slowly crazy.
And you can't hold your job and you realize that you were not the person that you used to think you were.
And you never will be again.That didn't happen to me.But I saw it happen over and over again to people that I knew.
People who shot other people.
Who killed interesting people.
How can you go into Church ever again you wonder?Oh and by the way - That war.
It was all about the oil anyway.So that's the problem - that's why so many American military people end up the way that they do.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28157603</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243778580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fair point, but it's a fine line; how many people who are in fact capable of a meaningful existance in the outside world do you mistakenly institutionalize?</p><p>Have you been outside lately? It's freaking tremendous... curtailing your life to an institution is (at least by standard cognizance) painful slash distressing as survival on the streets. I think what's worse perhaps is the terminal feeling of institutionalization - the spontinaity / diversity of life (both good and bad) is replaced with regimen. Of course what you say is true - there are those who may lead a happier life while institutionalized. This really is a profound course of action (either way) and warrants close attention by those who are involved, not the sort of people who will walk away or archive patients in a filing cabinet.</p><p>Most worrying today is the general tendency to distance charity and care from the individual (not being a savior, just acting human), instead frittering away such cares through the pachinko grid of government and publicly funded private institutions. Put your tax money in the slot and beureaucrats will take care of things... man, if the trauma I endured while renewing my automobile license the other day is any indication, I wonder how anyone could condemn a potentially viable person to institutional surrogacy, let alone subsidise it? I'm really only looking at the head and tail of the issue here; hopefully that's enough to outline the gist of the matter though.</p><p>Being homeless and not mentally ill? The perspective it affords you is like a new lease on life, both for the worst and the best. You don't go looking for it, but make the best when and if the hard times come.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fair point , but it 's a fine line ; how many people who are in fact capable of a meaningful existance in the outside world do you mistakenly institutionalize ? Have you been outside lately ?
It 's freaking tremendous... curtailing your life to an institution is ( at least by standard cognizance ) painful slash distressing as survival on the streets .
I think what 's worse perhaps is the terminal feeling of institutionalization - the spontinaity / diversity of life ( both good and bad ) is replaced with regimen .
Of course what you say is true - there are those who may lead a happier life while institutionalized .
This really is a profound course of action ( either way ) and warrants close attention by those who are involved , not the sort of people who will walk away or archive patients in a filing cabinet.Most worrying today is the general tendency to distance charity and care from the individual ( not being a savior , just acting human ) , instead frittering away such cares through the pachinko grid of government and publicly funded private institutions .
Put your tax money in the slot and beureaucrats will take care of things... man , if the trauma I endured while renewing my automobile license the other day is any indication , I wonder how anyone could condemn a potentially viable person to institutional surrogacy , let alone subsidise it ?
I 'm really only looking at the head and tail of the issue here ; hopefully that 's enough to outline the gist of the matter though.Being homeless and not mentally ill ?
The perspective it affords you is like a new lease on life , both for the worst and the best .
You do n't go looking for it , but make the best when and if the hard times come .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fair point, but it's a fine line; how many people who are in fact capable of a meaningful existance in the outside world do you mistakenly institutionalize?Have you been outside lately?
It's freaking tremendous... curtailing your life to an institution is (at least by standard cognizance) painful slash distressing as survival on the streets.
I think what's worse perhaps is the terminal feeling of institutionalization - the spontinaity / diversity of life (both good and bad) is replaced with regimen.
Of course what you say is true - there are those who may lead a happier life while institutionalized.
This really is a profound course of action (either way) and warrants close attention by those who are involved, not the sort of people who will walk away or archive patients in a filing cabinet.Most worrying today is the general tendency to distance charity and care from the individual (not being a savior, just acting human), instead frittering away such cares through the pachinko grid of government and publicly funded private institutions.
Put your tax money in the slot and beureaucrats will take care of things... man, if the trauma I endured while renewing my automobile license the other day is any indication, I wonder how anyone could condemn a potentially viable person to institutional surrogacy, let alone subsidise it?
I'm really only looking at the head and tail of the issue here; hopefully that's enough to outline the gist of the matter though.Being homeless and not mentally ill?
The perspective it affords you is like a new lease on life, both for the worst and the best.
You don't go looking for it, but make the best when and if the hard times come.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153683</id>
	<title>Horrible Reception</title>
	<author>qpawn</author>
	<datestamp>1243686600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I get like zero bars in my dumpster.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I get like zero bars in my dumpster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get like zero bars in my dumpster.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>m50d</author>
	<datestamp>1243785900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><i>Forgive my ignorance, I am not from the US and I have not been in the army (any army). What does army do to people that they have problems living "normal" lives later?</i> <p>Not from the US, but know a few ex-military folks. Life in the army is a very organised, regimented (hah) existence. If you go straight out of school, from living with your parents, into your 15-year tour - and many people do - then you never experience having to live for yourself - first your parents and then the army provide your housing, clothes, everything.</p><p>Now, 15 years down the line, you're out on your own; your parents might well be dead by this point, and if not then they're probably in their 60s, in need of care themselves more than they can care for you. You're too old (45-ish) to be easily employable, what friends you have are either back wherever you were last stationed, or in the same situation as you are (and quite possibly at the other end of the country). And you have absolutely no idea how to live by yourself - one of my ex-military friends told me it took him a week to figure out where to buy cutlery - not only had he never bought any before, he'd never even thought of it as something you have to buy.</p><p>Most people adjust well - many end up starting their own businesses (no-one will employ you for decent wages, and the pension is good enough that you can afford to be unprofitable for a while). But it takes quite a lot of learning, at an age where you're nowhere near as mentally flexible as you once were, and all too many just can't adapt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Forgive my ignorance , I am not from the US and I have not been in the army ( any army ) .
What does army do to people that they have problems living " normal " lives later ?
Not from the US , but know a few ex-military folks .
Life in the army is a very organised , regimented ( hah ) existence .
If you go straight out of school , from living with your parents , into your 15-year tour - and many people do - then you never experience having to live for yourself - first your parents and then the army provide your housing , clothes , everything.Now , 15 years down the line , you 're out on your own ; your parents might well be dead by this point , and if not then they 're probably in their 60s , in need of care themselves more than they can care for you .
You 're too old ( 45-ish ) to be easily employable , what friends you have are either back wherever you were last stationed , or in the same situation as you are ( and quite possibly at the other end of the country ) .
And you have absolutely no idea how to live by yourself - one of my ex-military friends told me it took him a week to figure out where to buy cutlery - not only had he never bought any before , he 'd never even thought of it as something you have to buy.Most people adjust well - many end up starting their own businesses ( no-one will employ you for decent wages , and the pension is good enough that you can afford to be unprofitable for a while ) .
But it takes quite a lot of learning , at an age where you 're nowhere near as mentally flexible as you once were , and all too many just ca n't adapt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forgive my ignorance, I am not from the US and I have not been in the army (any army).
What does army do to people that they have problems living "normal" lives later?
Not from the US, but know a few ex-military folks.
Life in the army is a very organised, regimented (hah) existence.
If you go straight out of school, from living with your parents, into your 15-year tour - and many people do - then you never experience having to live for yourself - first your parents and then the army provide your housing, clothes, everything.Now, 15 years down the line, you're out on your own; your parents might well be dead by this point, and if not then they're probably in their 60s, in need of care themselves more than they can care for you.
You're too old (45-ish) to be easily employable, what friends you have are either back wherever you were last stationed, or in the same situation as you are (and quite possibly at the other end of the country).
And you have absolutely no idea how to live by yourself - one of my ex-military friends told me it took him a week to figure out where to buy cutlery - not only had he never bought any before, he'd never even thought of it as something you have to buy.Most people adjust well - many end up starting their own businesses (no-one will employ you for decent wages, and the pension is good enough that you can afford to be unprofitable for a while).
But it takes quite a lot of learning, at an age where you're nowhere near as mentally flexible as you once were, and all too many just can't adapt.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156437</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Kerstyun</author>
	<datestamp>1243803300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> Trader Joe's is a popular place for gourmet dumpster diving.</p></div> </blockquote><p>LOL @ U.  Before I through takout contianer's away, i flick booger's in them.  Or just a littel bit of poop.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Trader Joe 's is a popular place for gourmet dumpster diving .
LOL @ U. Before I through takout contianer 's away , i flick booger 's in them .
Or just a littel bit of poop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Trader Joe's is a popular place for gourmet dumpster diving.
LOL @ U.  Before I through takout contianer's away, i flick booger's in them.
Or just a littel bit of poop.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154153</id>
	<title>That's The Idea</title>
	<author>maz2331</author>
	<datestamp>1243690140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The old saying of "when the going gets tough, the tough get going" applies perfectly to the parent post.</p><p>Congratulations for pulling yourself out of a bad situation!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The old saying of " when the going gets tough , the tough get going " applies perfectly to the parent post.Congratulations for pulling yourself out of a bad situation !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The old saying of "when the going gets tough, the tough get going" applies perfectly to the parent post.Congratulations for pulling yourself out of a bad situation!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156157</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Skuld-Chan</author>
	<datestamp>1243712160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><i> A couple of decades ago, Harry Chapin said something like "In a country where we produce enough food to feed the entire planet 6 times over, it's unthinkable that anybody shouldn't have enough to eat". Not much has changed in the interim. </i></p><p>Yeah its shocking that people go hungry in this country<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(. Even worse are regimes who actively stop the import of food so their citizens starve:</p><p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7949785.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7949785.stm</a> [bbc.co.uk] - North Korea is a country where most of their arable land was destroyed by mismanaged dams. Then they destroyed what was left after that by picking the hillsides clean of vegetation to eat, and to farm on (which caused even more flooding). They are in the situation where they need to actively import food to survive, but they don't because of ideology mainly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A couple of decades ago , Harry Chapin said something like " In a country where we produce enough food to feed the entire planet 6 times over , it 's unthinkable that anybody should n't have enough to eat " .
Not much has changed in the interim .
Yeah its shocking that people go hungry in this country : ( .
Even worse are regimes who actively stop the import of food so their citizens starve : http : //news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7949785.stm [ bbc.co.uk ] - North Korea is a country where most of their arable land was destroyed by mismanaged dams .
Then they destroyed what was left after that by picking the hillsides clean of vegetation to eat , and to farm on ( which caused even more flooding ) .
They are in the situation where they need to actively import food to survive , but they do n't because of ideology mainly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> A couple of decades ago, Harry Chapin said something like "In a country where we produce enough food to feed the entire planet 6 times over, it's unthinkable that anybody shouldn't have enough to eat".
Not much has changed in the interim.
Yeah its shocking that people go hungry in this country :(.
Even worse are regimes who actively stop the import of food so their citizens starve:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7949785.stm [bbc.co.uk] - North Korea is a country where most of their arable land was destroyed by mismanaged dams.
Then they destroyed what was left after that by picking the hillsides clean of vegetation to eat, and to farm on (which caused even more flooding).
They are in the situation where they need to actively import food to survive, but they don't because of ideology mainly.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243687740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For some reason he dose not want to work.</p></div><p>Internet connection, doesn't want to work, according to TFA some of them can't read or write : how about a job as a Slashdot editor?</p></div>
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<tokenext>For some reason he dose not want to work.Internet connection , does n't want to work , according to TFA some of them ca n't read or write : how about a job as a Slashdot editor ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For some reason he dose not want to work.Internet connection, doesn't want to work, according to TFA some of them can't read or write : how about a job as a Slashdot editor?
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	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243710420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>My wife worked for the chief of the psychiatric department at the Brentwood VA in California during the early 80s. From the mid-70s to mid-80s there was a strong 'patients rights' movement generated by the mental health advocate community. Although there were many facets to this movement, one of the primary elements was a re-examination of the criteria for institutionalizing patients.

The point of contention revolved around interpretations of what it meant for a patient to be able to 'take care of himself.' Prior to this the interpretation was rather strict; if a patient could not earn an income and provide shelter and food for himself (and if there were no family members able to care for him), then he would normally be institutionalized.

Begining in the late 70s, the advocacy groups began to demand a lower standard. As long as a patient could merely wash and dress himself, and could perform the mechanical tasks of shovelling food into his mouth, then every effort was made to force the institutions to release them. My wife's boss spent many months both in court and testifying before the state assembly trying to stop this lowering of standards. Unsuccessfully.

Predictably, most of the newly discharged patients were unable to take care of themselves in any meaningful sense of the word, and became the homeless people on the street. It's no coincidence that the decline in California's mental health insitution population closely matched the sharp increase of homeless (in California, at least) during the same period. In fact, for about two years, my wife literally was on a first name basis with every homeless person we ran across in the Westwood/Santa Monica area. They were all former patients who had been 'sprung' from the VA by well meaning advocate groups who then simply walked away and left these guys hanging.

Reagan was not involved in this movement, nor was he a symptom or symbolic of it. Quite the contrary. The people who 'liberated' the inmates tended to be on the opposite end of the political spectum. In fact, it was the ACLU who provided legal representation to force the VA to release these patients.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife worked for the chief of the psychiatric department at the Brentwood VA in California during the early 80s .
From the mid-70s to mid-80s there was a strong 'patients rights ' movement generated by the mental health advocate community .
Although there were many facets to this movement , one of the primary elements was a re-examination of the criteria for institutionalizing patients .
The point of contention revolved around interpretations of what it meant for a patient to be able to 'take care of himself .
' Prior to this the interpretation was rather strict ; if a patient could not earn an income and provide shelter and food for himself ( and if there were no family members able to care for him ) , then he would normally be institutionalized .
Begining in the late 70s , the advocacy groups began to demand a lower standard .
As long as a patient could merely wash and dress himself , and could perform the mechanical tasks of shovelling food into his mouth , then every effort was made to force the institutions to release them .
My wife 's boss spent many months both in court and testifying before the state assembly trying to stop this lowering of standards .
Unsuccessfully . Predictably , most of the newly discharged patients were unable to take care of themselves in any meaningful sense of the word , and became the homeless people on the street .
It 's no coincidence that the decline in California 's mental health insitution population closely matched the sharp increase of homeless ( in California , at least ) during the same period .
In fact , for about two years , my wife literally was on a first name basis with every homeless person we ran across in the Westwood/Santa Monica area .
They were all former patients who had been 'sprung ' from the VA by well meaning advocate groups who then simply walked away and left these guys hanging .
Reagan was not involved in this movement , nor was he a symptom or symbolic of it .
Quite the contrary .
The people who 'liberated ' the inmates tended to be on the opposite end of the political spectum .
In fact , it was the ACLU who provided legal representation to force the VA to release these patients .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife worked for the chief of the psychiatric department at the Brentwood VA in California during the early 80s.
From the mid-70s to mid-80s there was a strong 'patients rights' movement generated by the mental health advocate community.
Although there were many facets to this movement, one of the primary elements was a re-examination of the criteria for institutionalizing patients.
The point of contention revolved around interpretations of what it meant for a patient to be able to 'take care of himself.
' Prior to this the interpretation was rather strict; if a patient could not earn an income and provide shelter and food for himself (and if there were no family members able to care for him), then he would normally be institutionalized.
Begining in the late 70s, the advocacy groups began to demand a lower standard.
As long as a patient could merely wash and dress himself, and could perform the mechanical tasks of shovelling food into his mouth, then every effort was made to force the institutions to release them.
My wife's boss spent many months both in court and testifying before the state assembly trying to stop this lowering of standards.
Unsuccessfully.

Predictably, most of the newly discharged patients were unable to take care of themselves in any meaningful sense of the word, and became the homeless people on the street.
It's no coincidence that the decline in California's mental health insitution population closely matched the sharp increase of homeless (in California, at least) during the same period.
In fact, for about two years, my wife literally was on a first name basis with every homeless person we ran across in the Westwood/Santa Monica area.
They were all former patients who had been 'sprung' from the VA by well meaning advocate groups who then simply walked away and left these guys hanging.
Reagan was not involved in this movement, nor was he a symptom or symbolic of it.
Quite the contrary.
The people who 'liberated' the inmates tended to be on the opposite end of the political spectum.
In fact, it was the ACLU who provided legal representation to force the VA to release these patients.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156315</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243800480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;in 2000-01 I was making 6 figures working as a Senior Developer in Los Angeles. I lost my job after Bush and 911. I sent out over<br>&gt;&gt;300 resumes in a 3 month period - not one single response. I had 6 months income saved . By month 7 I was sleeping on friends<br>&gt;&gt;couches.</p><p>You blew thru 50,000 bucks.  (or more)  in 6 months?</p><p>I dont care where the fuck you were at...  You were living WAY beyond your means at that point.   Jesus christ.  So many people dont make 50k an entire year (pre-tax) for their whole family! And still don't end up homeless.</p><p>wtf...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; in 2000-01 I was making 6 figures working as a Senior Developer in Los Angeles .
I lost my job after Bush and 911 .
I sent out over &gt; &gt; 300 resumes in a 3 month period - not one single response .
I had 6 months income saved .
By month 7 I was sleeping on friends &gt; &gt; couches.You blew thru 50,000 bucks .
( or more ) in 6 months ? I dont care where the fuck you were at... You were living WAY beyond your means at that point .
Jesus christ .
So many people dont make 50k an entire year ( pre-tax ) for their whole family !
And still do n't end up homeless.wtf.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;in 2000-01 I was making 6 figures working as a Senior Developer in Los Angeles.
I lost my job after Bush and 911.
I sent out over&gt;&gt;300 resumes in a 3 month period - not one single response.
I had 6 months income saved .
By month 7 I was sleeping on friends&gt;&gt;couches.You blew thru 50,000 bucks.
(or more)  in 6 months?I dont care where the fuck you were at...  You were living WAY beyond your means at that point.
Jesus christ.
So many people dont make 50k an entire year (pre-tax) for their whole family!
And still don't end up homeless.wtf...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153599</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243686060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Been there, done that. Except that I <i>had</i> jobs while I was homeless. I got my fix from internet cafes and, better yet, university libraries -- for free. Uni internet library computers often run windows so they can be "tricked" into installing small programs using inconsistent enforcement of restrictions. <br> <br>

More tips for the homeless: <a href="http://media.www.thecorsaironline.com/media/storage/paper772/news/2008/12/05/News/The-Art.Of.Dumpster.Diving-3568144.shtml" title="thecorsaironline.com" rel="nofollow">Trader Joe's</a> [thecorsaironline.com] is a popular place for gourmet dumpster diving. University cafeterias also throw away things like packaged sushi when it hits the expiration date. Chinese food is the best to eat out of a trash can because the containers are often in tact and the abundant MSG preserves the food well. I love remembering Panda express' customers gasp in horror when I walked in and started fishing food containers out of their bins. It's also a good reminder of how much in America goes to waste. Go for the heavy ones<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Been there , done that .
Except that I had jobs while I was homeless .
I got my fix from internet cafes and , better yet , university libraries -- for free .
Uni internet library computers often run windows so they can be " tricked " into installing small programs using inconsistent enforcement of restrictions .
More tips for the homeless : Trader Joe 's [ thecorsaironline.com ] is a popular place for gourmet dumpster diving .
University cafeterias also throw away things like packaged sushi when it hits the expiration date .
Chinese food is the best to eat out of a trash can because the containers are often in tact and the abundant MSG preserves the food well .
I love remembering Panda express ' customers gasp in horror when I walked in and started fishing food containers out of their bins .
It 's also a good reminder of how much in America goes to waste .
Go for the heavy ones ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Been there, done that.
Except that I had jobs while I was homeless.
I got my fix from internet cafes and, better yet, university libraries -- for free.
Uni internet library computers often run windows so they can be "tricked" into installing small programs using inconsistent enforcement of restrictions.
More tips for the homeless: Trader Joe's [thecorsaironline.com] is a popular place for gourmet dumpster diving.
University cafeterias also throw away things like packaged sushi when it hits the expiration date.
Chinese food is the best to eat out of a trash can because the containers are often in tact and the abundant MSG preserves the food well.
I love remembering Panda express' customers gasp in horror when I walked in and started fishing food containers out of their bins.
It's also a good reminder of how much in America goes to waste.
Go for the heavy ones ;)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153753</id>
	<title>Well Stevie, you ain't gonna believe this.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243687200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm gonna make a TV star out of you. Just like Archie Bunker. You gonna be a household word.</p><p>It's called, "Homeless Got Talent"</p><p>Simon: So Steven, what are you going to do for us?</p><p>Stevie: I'm gonna stink</p><p>Simon: You're already our winner. You can go home proud...Ooops I made a Faux Pas...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm gon na make a TV star out of you .
Just like Archie Bunker .
You gon na be a household word.It 's called , " Homeless Got Talent " Simon : So Steven , what are you going to do for us ? Stevie : I 'm gon na stinkSimon : You 're already our winner .
You can go home proud...Ooops I made a Faux Pas.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm gonna make a TV star out of you.
Just like Archie Bunker.
You gonna be a household word.It's called, "Homeless Got Talent"Simon: So Steven, what are you going to do for us?Stevie: I'm gonna stinkSimon: You're already our winner.
You can go home proud...Ooops I made a Faux Pas...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28158479</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243787040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He does nto want to work.</p><p>You, sir/madam are an idiot. Consider that jobs paying 6 and 7 bucks an hour don't even pay a living wage, that is, enough to maintain a phone, a residence, a car, car insurance, food and utilities. But that's what they require in order to be employed. Everyone working at these jobs is either a second income to a household or have fortunate circumstances (proximity to job / stable and/or non-criminal roommates) which permit them to *try* to live off what they earn.</p><p>People who make 80k think jobs for 30k and even 40k are out there for anyone with a modicum of industry. Wrong, dead wrong. The level of competition for even the most menial jobs is intense. I was in Borders the other day and I overhear the manager tell a prospective employee that they get a thousand applications a month- for a minimum wage job, and that there were no openings now.</p><p>People doing well have no idea what's going on and what has been going on for a very very long time.</p><p>They also have no idea how soon they can find themselves showering at the JCC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He does nto want to work.You , sir/madam are an idiot .
Consider that jobs paying 6 and 7 bucks an hour do n't even pay a living wage , that is , enough to maintain a phone , a residence , a car , car insurance , food and utilities .
But that 's what they require in order to be employed .
Everyone working at these jobs is either a second income to a household or have fortunate circumstances ( proximity to job / stable and/or non-criminal roommates ) which permit them to * try * to live off what they earn.People who make 80k think jobs for 30k and even 40k are out there for anyone with a modicum of industry .
Wrong , dead wrong .
The level of competition for even the most menial jobs is intense .
I was in Borders the other day and I overhear the manager tell a prospective employee that they get a thousand applications a month- for a minimum wage job , and that there were no openings now.People doing well have no idea what 's going on and what has been going on for a very very long time.They also have no idea how soon they can find themselves showering at the JCC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He does nto want to work.You, sir/madam are an idiot.
Consider that jobs paying 6 and 7 bucks an hour don't even pay a living wage, that is, enough to maintain a phone, a residence, a car, car insurance, food and utilities.
But that's what they require in order to be employed.
Everyone working at these jobs is either a second income to a household or have fortunate circumstances (proximity to job / stable and/or non-criminal roommates) which permit them to *try* to live off what they earn.People who make 80k think jobs for 30k and even 40k are out there for anyone with a modicum of industry.
Wrong, dead wrong.
The level of competition for even the most menial jobs is intense.
I was in Borders the other day and I overhear the manager tell a prospective employee that they get a thousand applications a month- for a minimum wage job, and that there were no openings now.People doing well have no idea what's going on and what has been going on for a very very long time.They also have no idea how soon they can find themselves showering at the JCC.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154471</id>
	<title>Re:I think jobs pay better than blogging</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243692780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What should he get a fucking job if he doesn't want to? Do you think you are better than him because your life is so prim and neat? You could lose everything. Nothing is in your control.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What should he get a fucking job if he does n't want to ?
Do you think you are better than him because your life is so prim and neat ?
You could lose everything .
Nothing is in your control .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What should he get a fucking job if he doesn't want to?
Do you think you are better than him because your life is so prim and neat?
You could lose everything.
Nothing is in your control.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155855</id>
	<title>Puhleeeeeeze... give me a break with the rhetoric!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243708560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><blockquote><div><p>It's also a good reminder of how much in America goes to waste.</p></div></blockquote><p>
<a href="http://www.endhunger.org/usa\_hunger.htm" title="endhunger.org">3,304 pounds of food per second. 263,013,699 pounds of food every day. 1.5 tons of food per year for every person in America.</a> [endhunger.org] </p><p> A couple of decades ago, Harry Chapin said something like "In a country where we produce enough food to feed the entire planet 6 times over, it's unthinkable that anybody shouldn't have enough to eat".  Not much has changed in the interim.
</p></div><p>Yeah, because everything else in the world is so efficient, so the US for distribution network should be too. </p><p>Here's a tip, nothing is 100\% efficient, so give it up.  </p><p>Most engines are about 20\% efficient.  Solar panels are about 15\% efficient.  The US congress is about -10\% efficient and yet people expect that ALL the food generated in the US should be utilized with 100\% percent efficiency.     </p><p>And that is not considering the fact that in our capitalist economy, there is insufficient incentive to actually make sure everyone gets enough food.  </p><p>

Think I am wrong?  How much food did you throw into the trash this week?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's also a good reminder of how much in America goes to waste .
3,304 pounds of food per second .
263,013,699 pounds of food every day .
1.5 tons of food per year for every person in America .
[ endhunger.org ] A couple of decades ago , Harry Chapin said something like " In a country where we produce enough food to feed the entire planet 6 times over , it 's unthinkable that anybody should n't have enough to eat " .
Not much has changed in the interim .
Yeah , because everything else in the world is so efficient , so the US for distribution network should be too .
Here 's a tip , nothing is 100 \ % efficient , so give it up .
Most engines are about 20 \ % efficient .
Solar panels are about 15 \ % efficient .
The US congress is about -10 \ % efficient and yet people expect that ALL the food generated in the US should be utilized with 100 \ % percent efficiency .
And that is not considering the fact that in our capitalist economy , there is insufficient incentive to actually make sure everyone gets enough food .
Think I am wrong ?
How much food did you throw into the trash this week ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's also a good reminder of how much in America goes to waste.
3,304 pounds of food per second.
263,013,699 pounds of food every day.
1.5 tons of food per year for every person in America.
[endhunger.org]  A couple of decades ago, Harry Chapin said something like "In a country where we produce enough food to feed the entire planet 6 times over, it's unthinkable that anybody shouldn't have enough to eat".
Not much has changed in the interim.
Yeah, because everything else in the world is so efficient, so the US for distribution network should be too.
Here's a tip, nothing is 100\% efficient, so give it up.
Most engines are about 20\% efficient.
Solar panels are about 15\% efficient.
The US congress is about -10\% efficient and yet people expect that ALL the food generated in the US should be utilized with 100\% percent efficiency.
And that is not considering the fact that in our capitalist economy, there is insufficient incentive to actually make sure everyone gets enough food.
Think I am wrong?
How much food did you throw into the trash this week?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156445</id>
	<title>Re:Horrible Reception</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243803360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZERO\_bar" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Me too</a> [wikipedia.org]. Yummeh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Me too [ wikipedia.org ] .
Yummeh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Me too [wikipedia.org].
Yummeh.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28160403</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1243801980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're correct. It's really not surprising, though, given all the Marxist Utopian rhetoric he spews. Who me, work? That's for the ruling class we're going to overthrow and provide me with all my free stuff! If I work, I'm no better than they are!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're correct .
It 's really not surprising , though , given all the Marxist Utopian rhetoric he spews .
Who me , work ?
That 's for the ruling class we 're going to overthrow and provide me with all my free stuff !
If I work , I 'm no better than they are !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're correct.
It's really not surprising, though, given all the Marxist Utopian rhetoric he spews.
Who me, work?
That's for the ruling class we're going to overthrow and provide me with all my free stuff!
If I work, I'm no better than they are!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156781</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Sycraft-fu</author>
	<datestamp>1243766040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The thing is, it is a very hard situation. While it seems easy on the surface to say "Well if a person can't get a job and take care of themselves, then put them in an institution," it brings up problematic issues. There are two real, related, issues with a broad standard for institutionalizing people:</p><p>1) You take away freedom. When you start saying that people have to be able to do a minimum of X, Y and Z to be allowed to live out in the world, you are taking away their freedom. Freedom means the freedom to fail, it means the freedom to choose not to work, to live on the streets, etc. I'm not saying these are good choices, but when you take them away you are taking away people's freedom. I'm not a zealot who advocates freedom over everything else, there is a necessity to protect society against people and people against themselves, but you have to be very careful with the balance. In general, I think the balance needs to come down on the side of freedom. You don't want to start making many rules of what people have to be to be allowed to be free because it leads too...</p><p>2) Abuse. The wider a standard is, the easier it is for people to abuse. Most of us do something that at least one other person would find "crazy". The more of those sorts of things that can be used as reasons to institutionalize someone, the more it can be abused. You make someone powerful angry and they get you declared incompetent and locked away. You also can get racist/general types of abuse. If you look in to the history of eugenics you find things like this went on right here in America. "Undesirables" and "mental defectives" were institutionalized, sterilized, etc all because it was "for the better."</p><p>So this isn't an easy issue. On the one hand there are people who clearly need help, but on the other hand they often don't WANT help. So what do you do? Who gets to decide that someone MUST be helped, against their own will? It isn't an easy decision.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The thing is , it is a very hard situation .
While it seems easy on the surface to say " Well if a person ca n't get a job and take care of themselves , then put them in an institution , " it brings up problematic issues .
There are two real , related , issues with a broad standard for institutionalizing people : 1 ) You take away freedom .
When you start saying that people have to be able to do a minimum of X , Y and Z to be allowed to live out in the world , you are taking away their freedom .
Freedom means the freedom to fail , it means the freedom to choose not to work , to live on the streets , etc .
I 'm not saying these are good choices , but when you take them away you are taking away people 's freedom .
I 'm not a zealot who advocates freedom over everything else , there is a necessity to protect society against people and people against themselves , but you have to be very careful with the balance .
In general , I think the balance needs to come down on the side of freedom .
You do n't want to start making many rules of what people have to be to be allowed to be free because it leads too...2 ) Abuse .
The wider a standard is , the easier it is for people to abuse .
Most of us do something that at least one other person would find " crazy " .
The more of those sorts of things that can be used as reasons to institutionalize someone , the more it can be abused .
You make someone powerful angry and they get you declared incompetent and locked away .
You also can get racist/general types of abuse .
If you look in to the history of eugenics you find things like this went on right here in America .
" Undesirables " and " mental defectives " were institutionalized , sterilized , etc all because it was " for the better .
" So this is n't an easy issue .
On the one hand there are people who clearly need help , but on the other hand they often do n't WANT help .
So what do you do ?
Who gets to decide that someone MUST be helped , against their own will ?
It is n't an easy decision .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The thing is, it is a very hard situation.
While it seems easy on the surface to say "Well if a person can't get a job and take care of themselves, then put them in an institution," it brings up problematic issues.
There are two real, related, issues with a broad standard for institutionalizing people:1) You take away freedom.
When you start saying that people have to be able to do a minimum of X, Y and Z to be allowed to live out in the world, you are taking away their freedom.
Freedom means the freedom to fail, it means the freedom to choose not to work, to live on the streets, etc.
I'm not saying these are good choices, but when you take them away you are taking away people's freedom.
I'm not a zealot who advocates freedom over everything else, there is a necessity to protect society against people and people against themselves, but you have to be very careful with the balance.
In general, I think the balance needs to come down on the side of freedom.
You don't want to start making many rules of what people have to be to be allowed to be free because it leads too...2) Abuse.
The wider a standard is, the easier it is for people to abuse.
Most of us do something that at least one other person would find "crazy".
The more of those sorts of things that can be used as reasons to institutionalize someone, the more it can be abused.
You make someone powerful angry and they get you declared incompetent and locked away.
You also can get racist/general types of abuse.
If you look in to the history of eugenics you find things like this went on right here in America.
"Undesirables" and "mental defectives" were institutionalized, sterilized, etc all because it was "for the better.
"So this isn't an easy issue.
On the one hand there are people who clearly need help, but on the other hand they often don't WANT help.
So what do you do?
Who gets to decide that someone MUST be helped, against their own will?
It isn't an easy decision.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156375</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>rthomanek</author>
	<datestamp>1243802040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is something that strikes me in many stories about homeless people in the US:<br>
<br>
Comment above:<p><div class="quote"><p>I left home at 19 and an Ivy League University - joined the military to continue college.</p></div><p>Article:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Mr. Ross figures he has been homeless for about 15 years, surviving on his Army pension</p></div><p>
What is it about this correlation between being in the military in the past and being homeless later? Forgive my ignorance, I am not from the US and I have not been in the army (any army). What does army do to people that they have problems living "normal" lives later? Or, were these people "different" from the very beginning and army was an interesting option for them (unlike "regular" jobs &amp; lifestyle)?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is something that strikes me in many stories about homeless people in the US : Comment above : I left home at 19 and an Ivy League University - joined the military to continue college.Article : Mr. Ross figures he has been homeless for about 15 years , surviving on his Army pension What is it about this correlation between being in the military in the past and being homeless later ?
Forgive my ignorance , I am not from the US and I have not been in the army ( any army ) .
What does army do to people that they have problems living " normal " lives later ?
Or , were these people " different " from the very beginning and army was an interesting option for them ( unlike " regular " jobs &amp; lifestyle ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is something that strikes me in many stories about homeless people in the US:

Comment above:I left home at 19 and an Ivy League University - joined the military to continue college.Article:Mr. Ross figures he has been homeless for about 15 years, surviving on his Army pension
What is it about this correlation between being in the military in the past and being homeless later?
Forgive my ignorance, I am not from the US and I have not been in the army (any army).
What does army do to people that they have problems living "normal" lives later?
Or, were these people "different" from the very beginning and army was an interesting option for them (unlike "regular" jobs &amp; lifestyle)?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155937</id>
	<title>Hey, if Afghans with Commodore 64s can do it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243709400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...Why can't homeless Americans?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...Why ca n't homeless Americans ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Why can't homeless Americans?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156825</id>
	<title>well said.</title>
	<author>alizard</author>
	<datestamp>1243766760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>good that you managed to get out of that mess. So many don't. I expect that some of the 'blame the victim' types around here are going to be ones that don't when that don't when the 'recession' bites them personally in the ass.</htmltext>
<tokenext>good that you managed to get out of that mess .
So many do n't .
I expect that some of the 'blame the victim ' types around here are going to be ones that do n't when that do n't when the 'recession ' bites them personally in the ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>good that you managed to get out of that mess.
So many don't.
I expect that some of the 'blame the victim' types around here are going to be ones that don't when that don't when the 'recession' bites them personally in the ass.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155203</id>
	<title>i'm currently homeless</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243701180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> i would just like to say the internet is necessary. i am employed but currently on partial unemployment it really helps filling my claims since payphones are basically extinct at this point. i usually hit up the local coffee shop 2-3 times a day to use the electricity to charge my 8 yr old laptop (the one possession i got back after jail). i am camped out out in the woods, close enough to a subway that offers  wi-fi , with a tent and the basics to get by.  i plan on having a small place before the fall but in the mean time i find the internet really helps to keep me connected to the world from reading the news to daily chit-chat. if anyone else is in a similar spot i would recommend coming up with the cash to get a YMCA membership the exercise  and free showers has done a lot for  my mental and physical health.</p><p>best of luck to anyone in my position</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i would just like to say the internet is necessary .
i am employed but currently on partial unemployment it really helps filling my claims since payphones are basically extinct at this point .
i usually hit up the local coffee shop 2-3 times a day to use the electricity to charge my 8 yr old laptop ( the one possession i got back after jail ) .
i am camped out out in the woods , close enough to a subway that offers wi-fi , with a tent and the basics to get by .
i plan on having a small place before the fall but in the mean time i find the internet really helps to keep me connected to the world from reading the news to daily chit-chat .
if anyone else is in a similar spot i would recommend coming up with the cash to get a YMCA membership the exercise and free showers has done a lot for my mental and physical health.best of luck to anyone in my position</tokentext>
<sentencetext> i would just like to say the internet is necessary.
i am employed but currently on partial unemployment it really helps filling my claims since payphones are basically extinct at this point.
i usually hit up the local coffee shop 2-3 times a day to use the electricity to charge my 8 yr old laptop (the one possession i got back after jail).
i am camped out out in the woods, close enough to a subway that offers  wi-fi , with a tent and the basics to get by.
i plan on having a small place before the fall but in the mean time i find the internet really helps to keep me connected to the world from reading the news to daily chit-chat.
if anyone else is in a similar spot i would recommend coming up with the cash to get a YMCA membership the exercise  and free showers has done a lot for  my mental and physical health.best of luck to anyone in my position</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28158243</id>
	<title>Faraday cage</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243785060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I get like zero bars in my dumpster.</p></div><p>That's because it acts like a Faraday cage. Open up the top and try again.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I get like zero bars in my dumpster.That 's because it acts like a Faraday cage .
Open up the top and try again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get like zero bars in my dumpster.That's because it acts like a Faraday cage.
Open up the top and try again.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153769</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243687320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <b>For some reason</b> he does not want to work.</p></div><p>You must be joking.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For some reason he does not want to work.You must be joking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> For some reason he does not want to work.You must be joking.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153745</id>
	<title>I think jobs pay better than blogging</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243687140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey homeless, try looking up a fucking job board instead of blogging and updating your Twitter page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey homeless , try looking up a fucking job board instead of blogging and updating your Twitter page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey homeless, try looking up a fucking job board instead of blogging and updating your Twitter page.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155879</id>
	<title>Park nomad, laptop in tow, calls bushes home</title>
	<author>zebu111</author>
	<datestamp>1243708920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/31/BAPB1227KF.DTL" title="sfgate.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/31/BAPB1227KF.DTL</a> [sfgate.com]

Tom Sepa would rather not be called homeless.

"That word is loaded," he said. "I prefer 'urban outdoorsman.' "

It is true that Sepa has a lot of things that aren't generally associated with the stereotypical San Francisco homeless person - like a full-time job.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi ? f = /c/a/2008/07/31/BAPB1227KF.DTL [ sfgate.com ] Tom Sepa would rather not be called homeless .
" That word is loaded , " he said .
" I prefer 'urban outdoorsman .
' " It is true that Sepa has a lot of things that are n't generally associated with the stereotypical San Francisco homeless person - like a full-time job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/31/BAPB1227KF.DTL [sfgate.com]

Tom Sepa would rather not be called homeless.
"That word is loaded," he said.
"I prefer 'urban outdoorsman.
' "

It is true that Sepa has a lot of things that aren't generally associated with the stereotypical San Francisco homeless person - like a full-time job.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153735</id>
	<title>Luxury</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243687080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's nothing, I used to stay connected, downloading movies and Linux distros, following all the news, exchanging emails with a journalist friend, using a Commodore 64 that had been buried for years - in a war ravaged country with no communications infrastructure worth speaking of. Kids these days have it easy.</p><p>Juno</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's nothing , I used to stay connected , downloading movies and Linux distros , following all the news , exchanging emails with a journalist friend , using a Commodore 64 that had been buried for years - in a war ravaged country with no communications infrastructure worth speaking of .
Kids these days have it easy.Juno</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's nothing, I used to stay connected, downloading movies and Linux distros, following all the news, exchanging emails with a journalist friend, using a Commodore 64 that had been buried for years - in a war ravaged country with no communications infrastructure worth speaking of.
Kids these days have it easy.Juno</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28157735</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1243780380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because most people basically don't care about other people - and then they invent rationalizations to support their disinterest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because most people basically do n't care about other people - and then they invent rationalizations to support their disinterest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because most people basically don't care about other people - and then they invent rationalizations to support their disinterest.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154217</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156335</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Reservoir Penguin</author>
	<datestamp>1243800840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What I don't know id why the hell having saved enough cash for 6 months in CA you hadn't just moved to a cheaper state??</htmltext>
<tokenext>What I do n't know id why the hell having saved enough cash for 6 months in CA you had n't just moved to a cheaper state ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I don't know id why the hell having saved enough cash for 6 months in CA you hadn't just moved to a cheaper state?
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155061</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28160653</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>mattwarden</author>
	<datestamp>1243760460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have a point, but you sound silly by ranting about it. The truth of the matter, as usual, is somewhere in between what you're saying and how you're interpreting parent. Some poor people aren't able to find jobs. Many poor people don't want jobs and don't believe they need jobs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have a point , but you sound silly by ranting about it .
The truth of the matter , as usual , is somewhere in between what you 're saying and how you 're interpreting parent .
Some poor people are n't able to find jobs .
Many poor people do n't want jobs and do n't believe they need jobs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have a point, but you sound silly by ranting about it.
The truth of the matter, as usual, is somewhere in between what you're saying and how you're interpreting parent.
Some poor people aren't able to find jobs.
Many poor people don't want jobs and don't believe they need jobs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156349</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243801200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, you managed to eat up all your savings from a 6 figure income in 7 months!  That takes talent, even in California!  But I can see how quickly that money can go down the drain when you're accustomed to an expensive apartment and expensive food.  Or perhaps you were still living a "progressive" lifestyle and giving to charity long after you lost your source of regular income!   Seems to me that must be the case, what with all those poor unfortunate people you've taken notice of!  As for myself, the best I've done is make a five figure salary, eat out almost constantly, give a few bob to the salvation army now and then, and yet save almost quarter of a million dollars.  Oh, and Bush is responsible for you losing your six figure job!  Makes sense!  Your family are all evil, too?  Convenient.  You mean they lack that infinite reservoir of compassion for someone with your lousy judgement and fucked up personality?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , you managed to eat up all your savings from a 6 figure income in 7 months !
That takes talent , even in California !
But I can see how quickly that money can go down the drain when you 're accustomed to an expensive apartment and expensive food .
Or perhaps you were still living a " progressive " lifestyle and giving to charity long after you lost your source of regular income !
Seems to me that must be the case , what with all those poor unfortunate people you 've taken notice of !
As for myself , the best I 've done is make a five figure salary , eat out almost constantly , give a few bob to the salvation army now and then , and yet save almost quarter of a million dollars .
Oh , and Bush is responsible for you losing your six figure job !
Makes sense !
Your family are all evil , too ?
Convenient. You mean they lack that infinite reservoir of compassion for someone with your lousy judgement and fucked up personality ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, you managed to eat up all your savings from a 6 figure income in 7 months!
That takes talent, even in California!
But I can see how quickly that money can go down the drain when you're accustomed to an expensive apartment and expensive food.
Or perhaps you were still living a "progressive" lifestyle and giving to charity long after you lost your source of regular income!
Seems to me that must be the case, what with all those poor unfortunate people you've taken notice of!
As for myself, the best I've done is make a five figure salary, eat out almost constantly, give a few bob to the salvation army now and then, and yet save almost quarter of a million dollars.
Oh, and Bush is responsible for you losing your six figure job!
Makes sense!
Your family are all evil, too?
Convenient.  You mean they lack that infinite reservoir of compassion for someone with your lousy judgement and fucked up personality?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156077</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>confused one</author>
	<datestamp>1243711380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know about his specific situation; but, I can speak about mine.  Homeless in the late 80's as a teenager.  It's damn hard to get a job when you can't fill out the home address on the application -- they HR droids throw away "incomplete" applications.  It's also hard to get called in for an interview, when you have no phone (we didn't have cell phones available in the '80s like we do now).  At the time, the area I lived in had a very low homeless rate; so, if you tried to explain you were homeless some seemed to believe you were lying.  I had strangers say to me, "Surely you have a place you can stay."  A couple companies indicated they would not hire me because they could not believe I would be a reliable employee.  It certainly didn't help that I was young.  In the end, I worked day labor and temp jobs until I could get back on my feet and get in to college.  </p><p>Ended up coming "home" early because of things my parents did to my credit while I was away, which prevented me from renting an apartment or obtaining student loans.  That put me back into the same unstable situation I was in before.  Lost at least one job to the background check.  Probably others as well.  Ended up taking a job at an amusement park for a summer, then a temp job at a manufacturing plant.  It took a looooong time to get <i>completely</i> out of the hole and isolate myself from my parents, who put me there the first and second time.  I essentially lost a decade to this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about his specific situation ; but , I can speak about mine .
Homeless in the late 80 's as a teenager .
It 's damn hard to get a job when you ca n't fill out the home address on the application -- they HR droids throw away " incomplete " applications .
It 's also hard to get called in for an interview , when you have no phone ( we did n't have cell phones available in the '80s like we do now ) .
At the time , the area I lived in had a very low homeless rate ; so , if you tried to explain you were homeless some seemed to believe you were lying .
I had strangers say to me , " Surely you have a place you can stay .
" A couple companies indicated they would not hire me because they could not believe I would be a reliable employee .
It certainly did n't help that I was young .
In the end , I worked day labor and temp jobs until I could get back on my feet and get in to college .
Ended up coming " home " early because of things my parents did to my credit while I was away , which prevented me from renting an apartment or obtaining student loans .
That put me back into the same unstable situation I was in before .
Lost at least one job to the background check .
Probably others as well .
Ended up taking a job at an amusement park for a summer , then a temp job at a manufacturing plant .
It took a looooong time to get completely out of the hole and isolate myself from my parents , who put me there the first and second time .
I essentially lost a decade to this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about his specific situation; but, I can speak about mine.
Homeless in the late 80's as a teenager.
It's damn hard to get a job when you can't fill out the home address on the application -- they HR droids throw away "incomplete" applications.
It's also hard to get called in for an interview, when you have no phone (we didn't have cell phones available in the '80s like we do now).
At the time, the area I lived in had a very low homeless rate; so, if you tried to explain you were homeless some seemed to believe you were lying.
I had strangers say to me, "Surely you have a place you can stay.
"  A couple companies indicated they would not hire me because they could not believe I would be a reliable employee.
It certainly didn't help that I was young.
In the end, I worked day labor and temp jobs until I could get back on my feet and get in to college.
Ended up coming "home" early because of things my parents did to my credit while I was away, which prevented me from renting an apartment or obtaining student loans.
That put me back into the same unstable situation I was in before.
Lost at least one job to the background check.
Probably others as well.
Ended up taking a job at an amusement park for a summer, then a temp job at a manufacturing plant.
It took a looooong time to get completely out of the hole and isolate myself from my parents, who put me there the first and second time.
I essentially lost a decade to this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155835</id>
	<title>The way the homeless stay wired</title>
	<author>wolf12886</author>
	<datestamp>1243708380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How American Homeless Stay Wired</p></div><p>The same way they get their manicures.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How American Homeless Stay WiredThe same way they get their manicures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How American Homeless Stay WiredThe same way they get their manicures.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153987</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243688820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of "employable" people can't find jobs, no matter how long/hard they try.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of " employable " people ca n't find jobs , no matter how long/hard they try .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of "employable" people can't find jobs, no matter how long/hard they try.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153685</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154769</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Merc248</author>
	<datestamp>1243696260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you live in Seattle, Essential Bakery in Fremont is prime for dumpster diving as well.</p><p>(I'm not homeless, but I'm a college student, and the bread is usually VERY fresh.  I promise.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you live in Seattle , Essential Bakery in Fremont is prime for dumpster diving as well .
( I 'm not homeless , but I 'm a college student , and the bread is usually VERY fresh .
I promise .
: D )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you live in Seattle, Essential Bakery in Fremont is prime for dumpster diving as well.
(I'm not homeless, but I'm a college student, and the bread is usually VERY fresh.
I promise.
:D)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153599</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153699</id>
	<title>Great New World</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243686720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm self-unemployed after a real hard season of playing Blade Runner for a year. I don't have too much money to spend but...</p><p>I have a 24 hour permanent link to Internet<br>I can load tens of Gigabytes per month.<br>Have several different channels to reach Internet, from wherever I am, in several possible means.<br>And have a miriad of places to go for info and communication.<br>At home I have also three different ways to reach Internet from several systems around the house. I can freely move with a Internet link</p><p>And all this usually costs me some. Let's see... Some 40 dollars per month? Uh!</p><p>And to think I paid a 100 dollars for some piece of junky channel just four years ago. Hey and I could load only 2 Gigs! I was robbed!</p><p>It's a great world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm self-unemployed after a real hard season of playing Blade Runner for a year .
I do n't have too much money to spend but...I have a 24 hour permanent link to InternetI can load tens of Gigabytes per month.Have several different channels to reach Internet , from wherever I am , in several possible means.And have a miriad of places to go for info and communication.At home I have also three different ways to reach Internet from several systems around the house .
I can freely move with a Internet linkAnd all this usually costs me some .
Let 's see... Some 40 dollars per month ?
Uh ! And to think I paid a 100 dollars for some piece of junky channel just four years ago .
Hey and I could load only 2 Gigs !
I was robbed ! It 's a great world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm self-unemployed after a real hard season of playing Blade Runner for a year.
I don't have too much money to spend but...I have a 24 hour permanent link to InternetI can load tens of Gigabytes per month.Have several different channels to reach Internet, from wherever I am, in several possible means.And have a miriad of places to go for info and communication.At home I have also three different ways to reach Internet from several systems around the house.
I can freely move with a Internet linkAnd all this usually costs me some.
Let's see... Some 40 dollars per month?
Uh!And to think I paid a 100 dollars for some piece of junky channel just four years ago.
Hey and I could load only 2 Gigs!
I was robbed!It's a great world.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28160779</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>mattwarden</author>
	<datestamp>1243761180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; You think there are State run programs to help people out there. I am here<br>&gt; to tell you you are so so wrong. It;s all a sham. There are a very few.<br>&gt; Very few. Most are fronts just to make it seem like something is being<br>&gt; done. Nothing is. I've seen it. I've been there.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; You haven't seen it. You don't know.</p><p>What are you talking about? I work with these programs every day. You're going on like there was nowhere you could turn. How about talking about specifics? Why were you denied unemployment compensation? Why were you denied food stamps? Why were you denied medicaid? Why were you denied federal and state cash assistance? Why were you denied help from your church and local charities?</p><p>Sorry, but I have to call bullshit unless you can explain why "it's all a sham". If it's all a sham, I think there are a lot of people who would like their tax dollars back, so please share your insight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; You think there are State run programs to help people out there .
I am here &gt; to tell you you are so so wrong .
It ; s all a sham .
There are a very few. &gt; Very few .
Most are fronts just to make it seem like something is being &gt; done .
Nothing is .
I 've seen it .
I 've been there. &gt; &gt; You have n't seen it .
You do n't know.What are you talking about ?
I work with these programs every day .
You 're going on like there was nowhere you could turn .
How about talking about specifics ?
Why were you denied unemployment compensation ?
Why were you denied food stamps ?
Why were you denied medicaid ?
Why were you denied federal and state cash assistance ?
Why were you denied help from your church and local charities ? Sorry , but I have to call bullshit unless you can explain why " it 's all a sham " .
If it 's all a sham , I think there are a lot of people who would like their tax dollars back , so please share your insight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; You think there are State run programs to help people out there.
I am here&gt; to tell you you are so so wrong.
It;s all a sham.
There are a very few.&gt; Very few.
Most are fronts just to make it seem like something is being&gt; done.
Nothing is.
I've seen it.
I've been there.&gt;&gt; You haven't seen it.
You don't know.What are you talking about?
I work with these programs every day.
You're going on like there was nowhere you could turn.
How about talking about specifics?
Why were you denied unemployment compensation?
Why were you denied food stamps?
Why were you denied medicaid?
Why were you denied federal and state cash assistance?
Why were you denied help from your church and local charities?Sorry, but I have to call bullshit unless you can explain why "it's all a sham".
If it's all a sham, I think there are a lot of people who would like their tax dollars back, so please share your insight.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155071</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>flaming error</author>
	<datestamp>1243700100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; with the abundance of soup kitchens and charity groups out there<br>Not sure what you base that claim of "abundance" on, but it's not the number of groups that matter, its access to actual food and beds.  And there are more homeless than plates in my city.  A couple times I picked up panhandlers to show them how easy it was to get a meal and a bed.  It turned out to be not so easy at all - those resources are finite, and they actually turn people away.</p><p>It might interest you to try the same - escort a homeless person to the abudant resources in your town.  Hopefully you'll have more luck than me.  And if not, maybe you can split a lunch and wish him well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; with the abundance of soup kitchens and charity groups out thereNot sure what you base that claim of " abundance " on , but it 's not the number of groups that matter , its access to actual food and beds .
And there are more homeless than plates in my city .
A couple times I picked up panhandlers to show them how easy it was to get a meal and a bed .
It turned out to be not so easy at all - those resources are finite , and they actually turn people away.It might interest you to try the same - escort a homeless person to the abudant resources in your town .
Hopefully you 'll have more luck than me .
And if not , maybe you can split a lunch and wish him well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; with the abundance of soup kitchens and charity groups out thereNot sure what you base that claim of "abundance" on, but it's not the number of groups that matter, its access to actual food and beds.
And there are more homeless than plates in my city.
A couple times I picked up panhandlers to show them how easy it was to get a meal and a bed.
It turned out to be not so easy at all - those resources are finite, and they actually turn people away.It might interest you to try the same - escort a homeless person to the abudant resources in your town.
Hopefully you'll have more luck than me.
And if not, maybe you can split a lunch and wish him well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28159641</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243796100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry you had a tough time but I fail to see why Bush and 9/11 were mentioned.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry you had a tough time but I fail to see why Bush and 9/11 were mentioned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry you had a tough time but I fail to see why Bush and 9/11 were mentioned.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155593</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243705020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I made nowhere near a six-figure income, worked not-quite-2-years before being laid off, and it's my sixth month of being unemployed now... and I still have plenty of food, clothing, and shelter.  What on Earth's name did you do, spend all your money on booze and whores?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I made nowhere near a six-figure income , worked not-quite-2-years before being laid off , and it 's my sixth month of being unemployed now... and I still have plenty of food , clothing , and shelter .
What on Earth 's name did you do , spend all your money on booze and whores ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I made nowhere near a six-figure income, worked not-quite-2-years before being laid off, and it's my sixth month of being unemployed now... and I still have plenty of food, clothing, and shelter.
What on Earth's name did you do, spend all your money on booze and whores?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28159937</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243798440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Er... I was following you with the homeless rant, but not on this.</p><p>No duh you're a soldier first and medic second... it's the ARMY! Killing is kinda implied by the NAME OF YOUR EMPLOYER! The ARMY!</p><p>You joined the Army, seriously what did you expect?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Er... I was following you with the homeless rant , but not on this.No duh you 're a soldier first and medic second... it 's the ARMY !
Killing is kinda implied by the NAME OF YOUR EMPLOYER !
The ARMY ! You joined the Army , seriously what did you expect ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Er... I was following you with the homeless rant, but not on this.No duh you're a soldier first and medic second... it's the ARMY!
Killing is kinda implied by the NAME OF YOUR EMPLOYER!
The ARMY!You joined the Army, seriously what did you expect?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153711</id>
	<title>Missed this bit</title>
	<author>goldaryn</author>
	<datestamp>1243686840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Before the Dalai Lama visited a soup kitchen here a month ago, Mr. Pitts researched the Buddhist leader on Wikipedia and copied the text onto his iPod, to read in bed under the bridge.</i> <br>
<br>
Aw, that's really cool.<br>
<br>
But now I have the mental image of the corresponding silhouette ad..<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..and it's kinda weird..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Before the Dalai Lama visited a soup kitchen here a month ago , Mr. Pitts researched the Buddhist leader on Wikipedia and copied the text onto his iPod , to read in bed under the bridge .
Aw , that 's really cool .
But now I have the mental image of the corresponding silhouette ad.. ..and it 's kinda weird. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before the Dalai Lama visited a soup kitchen here a month ago, Mr. Pitts researched the Buddhist leader on Wikipedia and copied the text onto his iPod, to read in bed under the bridge.
Aw, that's really cool.
But now I have the mental image of the corresponding silhouette ad.. ..and it's kinda weird..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154989</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>sillybilly</author>
	<datestamp>1243699080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or nobody gives him a job, or the jobs he gets are bullshit jobs, etc, etc.. the possibilities are many. Most people like a decent job with a steady income. It's often a question of what's decent. I used to be not willing to do very hazardous jobs, now it's like what do I have to live for anymore. As long as they pay well, I might actually get the chance to have a life, or die from the hazard, but it's still better than certainty and guarantee of never having really lived, because you were always financially strangled. And if you have principles, you will not take the unethical roads to make money, no matter how great the pressure. You can always be your own person, or at least try to be.<br> <br> Homelessness is a very grave sacrifice, but sometimes it's the best of the options that you can choose from. It's not as simple as someone does not want to work - most people want to feel like they are doing something in life, doing something worthwhile. Then it comes to what is really work, only stuff you get an income from? Isaac Newton writing the Pincipia, while sustaining himself from a small farm. Was writing the Principia work? Is a hobby, an entertainment, work? Is the exchange of money what classifies something as work? We have a system of finances that directs actions of most people, and we go by it because we don't know what's better. But the system is not absolute perfection, it doesn't do it's job well, but both extremes - neither communism (total distribution of resources - nobody has personal incentives) nor full blown absolute capitalism (or feudalism with serfdom as a better example of concentrated power, where very few people dictate the rules to everyone) have been the magic answer to most overall human happiness.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or nobody gives him a job , or the jobs he gets are bullshit jobs , etc , etc.. the possibilities are many .
Most people like a decent job with a steady income .
It 's often a question of what 's decent .
I used to be not willing to do very hazardous jobs , now it 's like what do I have to live for anymore .
As long as they pay well , I might actually get the chance to have a life , or die from the hazard , but it 's still better than certainty and guarantee of never having really lived , because you were always financially strangled .
And if you have principles , you will not take the unethical roads to make money , no matter how great the pressure .
You can always be your own person , or at least try to be .
Homelessness is a very grave sacrifice , but sometimes it 's the best of the options that you can choose from .
It 's not as simple as someone does not want to work - most people want to feel like they are doing something in life , doing something worthwhile .
Then it comes to what is really work , only stuff you get an income from ?
Isaac Newton writing the Pincipia , while sustaining himself from a small farm .
Was writing the Principia work ?
Is a hobby , an entertainment , work ?
Is the exchange of money what classifies something as work ?
We have a system of finances that directs actions of most people , and we go by it because we do n't know what 's better .
But the system is not absolute perfection , it does n't do it 's job well , but both extremes - neither communism ( total distribution of resources - nobody has personal incentives ) nor full blown absolute capitalism ( or feudalism with serfdom as a better example of concentrated power , where very few people dictate the rules to everyone ) have been the magic answer to most overall human happiness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or nobody gives him a job, or the jobs he gets are bullshit jobs, etc, etc.. the possibilities are many.
Most people like a decent job with a steady income.
It's often a question of what's decent.
I used to be not willing to do very hazardous jobs, now it's like what do I have to live for anymore.
As long as they pay well, I might actually get the chance to have a life, or die from the hazard, but it's still better than certainty and guarantee of never having really lived, because you were always financially strangled.
And if you have principles, you will not take the unethical roads to make money, no matter how great the pressure.
You can always be your own person, or at least try to be.
Homelessness is a very grave sacrifice, but sometimes it's the best of the options that you can choose from.
It's not as simple as someone does not want to work - most people want to feel like they are doing something in life, doing something worthwhile.
Then it comes to what is really work, only stuff you get an income from?
Isaac Newton writing the Pincipia, while sustaining himself from a small farm.
Was writing the Principia work?
Is a hobby, an entertainment, work?
Is the exchange of money what classifies something as work?
We have a system of finances that directs actions of most people, and we go by it because we don't know what's better.
But the system is not absolute perfection, it doesn't do it's job well, but both extremes - neither communism (total distribution of resources - nobody has personal incentives) nor full blown absolute capitalism (or feudalism with serfdom as a better example of concentrated power, where very few people dictate the rules to everyone) have been the magic answer to most overall human happiness.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28157711</id>
	<title>He prefers to live under a bridge???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243779960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Do you really think that someone would PREFER to live under a bridge,</p> </div><p>A-ha! I spy a TROLLL!!!!!!</p><p>I cite various fairy tales as that is where trolls like to live. Under bridges.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you really think that someone would PREFER to live under a bridge , A-ha !
I spy a TROLLL ! ! ! ! !
! I cite various fairy tales as that is where trolls like to live .
Under bridges .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Do you really think that someone would PREFER to live under a bridge, A-ha!
I spy a TROLLL!!!!!
!I cite various fairy tales as that is where trolls like to live.
Under bridges.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153869</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243688040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Been there, done that. Except that I had jobs while I was homeless. I got my fix from internet cafes and, better yet, university libraries -- for free. Uni internet library computers often run windows so they can be "tricked" into installing small programs using inconsistent enforcement of restrictions.</i> <br>
<br>
I hate to tell you this... that's not technically a job..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Been there , done that .
Except that I had jobs while I was homeless .
I got my fix from internet cafes and , better yet , university libraries -- for free .
Uni internet library computers often run windows so they can be " tricked " into installing small programs using inconsistent enforcement of restrictions .
I hate to tell you this... that 's not technically a job. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Been there, done that.
Except that I had jobs while I was homeless.
I got my fix from internet cafes and, better yet, university libraries -- for free.
Uni internet library computers often run windows so they can be "tricked" into installing small programs using inconsistent enforcement of restrictions.
I hate to tell you this... that's not technically a job..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156095</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>sodul</author>
	<datestamp>1243711680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the abundance of soup kitchens and charity groups out there, I find it difficult to believe than anyone has to go dumpster diving for food</p></div><p>Before my wife got her work permit in the US she did serve food at a local church. Some people do not want to go there because you have to comply with the "moral" rules. My wife actually stopped volunteering there because she was getting yelled at by the 'good christian' manager. Now she is only volunteering for causes that are not "I have morals because I believe in deity" based.</p><p>I know that some homeless people refuse to go to shelters because of the other bums that snore, fart, steal and even attack you during the night.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the abundance of soup kitchens and charity groups out there , I find it difficult to believe than anyone has to go dumpster diving for foodBefore my wife got her work permit in the US she did serve food at a local church .
Some people do not want to go there because you have to comply with the " moral " rules .
My wife actually stopped volunteering there because she was getting yelled at by the 'good christian ' manager .
Now she is only volunteering for causes that are not " I have morals because I believe in deity " based.I know that some homeless people refuse to go to shelters because of the other bums that snore , fart , steal and even attack you during the night .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the abundance of soup kitchens and charity groups out there, I find it difficult to believe than anyone has to go dumpster diving for foodBefore my wife got her work permit in the US she did serve food at a local church.
Some people do not want to go there because you have to comply with the "moral" rules.
My wife actually stopped volunteering there because she was getting yelled at by the 'good christian' manager.
Now she is only volunteering for causes that are not "I have morals because I believe in deity" based.I know that some homeless people refuse to go to shelters because of the other bums that snore, fart, steal and even attack you during the night.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153791</id>
	<title>Brought back memories</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243687440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was homeless between Aug-2003 to July-2004. One day I had no money to buy two rice cakes which used to cost less than<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.25 cents. I just drank a water and I made a promise to myself to avoid such a bad condition.  It was bad, cold and at one point I thought I'm just gonna die out. At the end of 2004, I brought old P5 with 64MB RAM and 10GB hard disk with mono monitor loaded with Window 95. I used the same computer to write students CS assignments and complete their projects in the night time for the money. I had a small job at the Internet cafe. I learned about SEO, forums, creating website and making money by selling ads and doing aff marketing. Today, I make my living by running over 80+ websites and forums. Even, in this bad economy, I doing good. So if you in a bad time, just hold on a while. May be think out of box and you may survive to see another beautiful day. I learnt a lot from my bad days and it made me a better person.</p><p>Hope this helps and cheers someone out there seating in cold night and wondering about the life...</p><p>PS: English is not my first language and I've only 10th grade school education.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was homeless between Aug-2003 to July-2004 .
One day I had no money to buy two rice cakes which used to cost less than .25 cents .
I just drank a water and I made a promise to myself to avoid such a bad condition .
It was bad , cold and at one point I thought I 'm just gon na die out .
At the end of 2004 , I brought old P5 with 64MB RAM and 10GB hard disk with mono monitor loaded with Window 95 .
I used the same computer to write students CS assignments and complete their projects in the night time for the money .
I had a small job at the Internet cafe .
I learned about SEO , forums , creating website and making money by selling ads and doing aff marketing .
Today , I make my living by running over 80 + websites and forums .
Even , in this bad economy , I doing good .
So if you in a bad time , just hold on a while .
May be think out of box and you may survive to see another beautiful day .
I learnt a lot from my bad days and it made me a better person.Hope this helps and cheers someone out there seating in cold night and wondering about the life...PS : English is not my first language and I 've only 10th grade school education .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was homeless between Aug-2003 to July-2004.
One day I had no money to buy two rice cakes which used to cost less than .25 cents.
I just drank a water and I made a promise to myself to avoid such a bad condition.
It was bad, cold and at one point I thought I'm just gonna die out.
At the end of 2004, I brought old P5 with 64MB RAM and 10GB hard disk with mono monitor loaded with Window 95.
I used the same computer to write students CS assignments and complete their projects in the night time for the money.
I had a small job at the Internet cafe.
I learned about SEO, forums, creating website and making money by selling ads and doing aff marketing.
Today, I make my living by running over 80+ websites and forums.
Even, in this bad economy, I doing good.
So if you in a bad time, just hold on a while.
May be think out of box and you may survive to see another beautiful day.
I learnt a lot from my bad days and it made me a better person.Hope this helps and cheers someone out there seating in cold night and wondering about the life...PS: English is not my first language and I've only 10th grade school education.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28157793</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Shoe Puppet</author>
	<datestamp>1243781100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Someone capable of coordinating their life that well is probably employable.</p></div><p>Of course, that wouldn't help him if there is no job for him.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone capable of coordinating their life that well is probably employable.Of course , that would n't help him if there is no job for him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone capable of coordinating their life that well is probably employable.Of course, that wouldn't help him if there is no job for him.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28155013</id>
	<title>Re:Horrible Reception</title>
	<author>electrosoccertux</author>
	<datestamp>1243699380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should go outside of the dumpster, that metal around you is a faraday cage intercepting all your internets!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should go outside of the dumpster , that metal around you is a faraday cage intercepting all your internets !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should go outside of the dumpster, that metal around you is a faraday cage intercepting all your internets!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28157051</id>
	<title>Re:You Don't Know Anything About Homelessness ....</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1243770240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a good thing that only America has these problems.  Let's all blame the soldiers - after all, that worked so well after Vietnam.  <p> <i>We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,<br>
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;<br>
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,<br>
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>..........While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind,"<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>..........But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind -<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>..........There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>..........O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a good thing that only America has these problems .
Let 's all blame the soldiers - after all , that worked so well after Vietnam .
We are n't no thin red 'eroes , nor we are n't no blackguards too , But single men in barricks , most remarkable like you ; An ' if sometimes our conduck is n't all your fancy paints , Why , single men in barricks do n't grow into plaster saints ; ..........While it 's Tommy this , an ' Tommy that , an ' " Tommy , fall be'ind , " ..........But it 's " Please to walk in front , sir , " when there 's trouble in the wind - ..........There 's trouble in the wind , my boys , there 's trouble in the wind , ..........O it 's " Please to walk in front , sir , " when there 's trouble in the wind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a good thing that only America has these problems.
Let's all blame the soldiers - after all, that worked so well after Vietnam.
We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints; ..........While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind," ..........But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind - ..........There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind, ..........O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153651</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243686420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>But is it for lack of looking or for lack of jobs available?</htmltext>
<tokenext>But is it for lack of looking or for lack of jobs available ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But is it for lack of looking or for lack of jobs available?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28157041</id>
	<title>Re:Puhleeeeeeze... give me a break with the rhetor</title>
	<author>smoker2</author>
	<datestamp>1243770120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>How much food did you throw into the trash this week?</p></div></blockquote><p>None at all. But then I'm not American.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How much food did you throw into the trash this week ? None at all .
But then I 'm not American .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much food did you throw into the trash this week?None at all.
But then I'm not American.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28205095</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>matt20102</author>
	<datestamp>1244043540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm unemployed and about three months from running out of cash.  I've got a degree  in Engineering (2007) and have worked for three years as a web developer.  I can cook fairly well, know how to brew beer, and have been a musician for 12+ years.  As a fairly young, single person, I'm the model of an employable citizen.  The truth is, however, that it's been four months and I'm still looking for a paycheck which can cover my rent, student loans, etc.   Especially depending on the area, it's never just as easy as 'finding a job'.  Sure I can get a paycheck, but how far is $10/hour going to go?  Unemployment works out to about $9 an hour and that doesn't even cover my bills, let alone food, gas, rent. (but it helps).
<br>
<br>
The truth is that just about everyone in this country is closer to being in the same boat as the subject of this story- at least closer than you realize.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm unemployed and about three months from running out of cash .
I 've got a degree in Engineering ( 2007 ) and have worked for three years as a web developer .
I can cook fairly well , know how to brew beer , and have been a musician for 12 + years .
As a fairly young , single person , I 'm the model of an employable citizen .
The truth is , however , that it 's been four months and I 'm still looking for a paycheck which can cover my rent , student loans , etc .
Especially depending on the area , it 's never just as easy as 'finding a job' .
Sure I can get a paycheck , but how far is $ 10/hour going to go ?
Unemployment works out to about $ 9 an hour and that does n't even cover my bills , let alone food , gas , rent .
( but it helps ) .
The truth is that just about everyone in this country is closer to being in the same boat as the subject of this story- at least closer than you realize .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm unemployed and about three months from running out of cash.
I've got a degree  in Engineering (2007) and have worked for three years as a web developer.
I can cook fairly well, know how to brew beer, and have been a musician for 12+ years.
As a fairly young, single person, I'm the model of an employable citizen.
The truth is, however, that it's been four months and I'm still looking for a paycheck which can cover my rent, student loans, etc.
Especially depending on the area, it's never just as easy as 'finding a job'.
Sure I can get a paycheck, but how far is $10/hour going to go?
Unemployment works out to about $9 an hour and that doesn't even cover my bills, let alone food, gas, rent.
(but it helps).
The truth is that just about everyone in this country is closer to being in the same boat as the subject of this story- at least closer than you realize.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153685</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154733</id>
	<title>Pitts? American Homeless?</title>
	<author>buravirgil</author>
	<datestamp>1243695840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Allegorical anecdotal astroturfing advocating alignment a la angelesia.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Allegorical anecdotal astroturfing advocating alignment a la angelesia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Allegorical anecdotal astroturfing advocating alignment a la angelesia.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28156697</id>
	<title>What should be obvious but isnt...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243764720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>What is beyond the scope of the article and this story is that it has become so much easier to obtain luxuries in this world than it is to obtain the basics of life.  The easiest thing in the world  to obtain should be what you need not what you want.  But we all know that's not going to change.  In my eyes.  It's just sad.  But what do I matter?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is beyond the scope of the article and this story is that it has become so much easier to obtain luxuries in this world than it is to obtain the basics of life .
The easiest thing in the world to obtain should be what you need not what you want .
But we all know that 's not going to change .
In my eyes .
It 's just sad .
But what do I matter ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is beyond the scope of the article and this story is that it has become so much easier to obtain luxuries in this world than it is to obtain the basics of life.
The easiest thing in the world  to obtain should be what you need not what you want.
But we all know that's not going to change.
In my eyes.
It's just sad.
But what do I matter?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154765</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243696260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Harry Chapin was a lame folk singer.  Who gives a flying fuck what he said?

I'm really tired of preachy musicians who know little more than the next guy, but get to speak more loudly because of unrelated fame.  cf. Bono, Sting, everyone from the 60s, etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Harry Chapin was a lame folk singer .
Who gives a flying fuck what he said ?
I 'm really tired of preachy musicians who know little more than the next guy , but get to speak more loudly because of unrelated fame .
cf. Bono , Sting , everyone from the 60s , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Harry Chapin was a lame folk singer.
Who gives a flying fuck what he said?
I'm really tired of preachy musicians who know little more than the next guy, but get to speak more loudly because of unrelated fame.
cf. Bono, Sting, everyone from the 60s, etc.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28154217</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_30_2241228.28153687</id>
	<title>Van down by the river...</title>
	<author>stevedmc</author>
	<datestamp>1243686600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I want to live in a van down by the river.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I want to live in a van down by the river .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want to live in a van down by the river.</sentencetext>
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