<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_05_28_145247</id>
	<title>The Unexpected Patents of Steve Jobs</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1243524180000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:harry@technologizer.com" rel="nofollow">Harry</a> writes <i>"It's no surprise that Steve Jobs' name is among those credited in Apple's patents for MacBooks, iPods, and other iconic gadgets galore. But  <a href="http://technologizer.com/2009/05/28/the-patents-of-steve-jobs/">the man holds patents</a> for packaging, a staircase, iPod cases, and several intriguing products that Apple hasn't built to date. They all add up to an interesting portrait of the world's most famous tech CEO."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Harry writes " It 's no surprise that Steve Jobs ' name is among those credited in Apple 's patents for MacBooks , iPods , and other iconic gadgets galore .
But the man holds patents for packaging , a staircase , iPod cases , and several intriguing products that Apple has n't built to date .
They all add up to an interesting portrait of the world 's most famous tech CEO .
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<sentencetext>Harry writes "It's no surprise that Steve Jobs' name is among those credited in Apple's patents for MacBooks, iPods, and other iconic gadgets galore.
But  the man holds patents for packaging, a staircase, iPod cases, and several intriguing products that Apple hasn't built to date.
They all add up to an interesting portrait of the world's most famous tech CEO.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28126229</id>
	<title>Re:Absolute Bullshit</title>
	<author>tkohler</author>
	<datestamp>1243535880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's called a design patent and they are almost worthless except for stopping exact knock-offs. Design claims have no bearing on function so he didn't "patent a staircase", he patented "that particular look of a staircase".</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's called a design patent and they are almost worthless except for stopping exact knock-offs .
Design claims have no bearing on function so he did n't " patent a staircase " , he patented " that particular look of a staircase " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's called a design patent and they are almost worthless except for stopping exact knock-offs.
Design claims have no bearing on function so he didn't "patent a staircase", he patented "that particular look of a staircase".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124821</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>Speck'sBacon</author>
	<datestamp>1243530300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Whilst I congratulate the man for subsidising research and giving to worthy causes I have to wonder if he would do so much if he was not one of the worlds richest man [sic].</p></div><p>This is some twisted logic.. <i>Of course</i> he wouldn't do so much if he weren't so rich!  He would be incapable of doing so.  While Microsoft's business practices are deserving of scrutiny, I fear most of the vitriol aimed at Microsoft and Gates is motivated by envy, or "tall poppy syndrome," or some variant.  In the final analysis, the man is a successful business person who's earned his money, and can do with it as he pleases.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whilst I congratulate the man for subsidising research and giving to worthy causes I have to wonder if he would do so much if he was not one of the worlds richest man [ sic ] .This is some twisted logic.. Of course he would n't do so much if he were n't so rich !
He would be incapable of doing so .
While Microsoft 's business practices are deserving of scrutiny , I fear most of the vitriol aimed at Microsoft and Gates is motivated by envy , or " tall poppy syndrome , " or some variant .
In the final analysis , the man is a successful business person who 's earned his money , and can do with it as he pleases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whilst I congratulate the man for subsidising research and giving to worthy causes I have to wonder if he would do so much if he was not one of the worlds richest man [sic].This is some twisted logic.. Of course he wouldn't do so much if he weren't so rich!
He would be incapable of doing so.
While Microsoft's business practices are deserving of scrutiny, I fear most of the vitriol aimed at Microsoft and Gates is motivated by envy, or "tall poppy syndrome," or some variant.
In the final analysis, the man is a successful business person who's earned his money, and can do with it as he pleases.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124559</id>
	<title>Steve Jobs has been patented??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243529220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So they must be able to clone him now? That's good news for apple. I wonder if he hatches from a pod.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So they must be able to clone him now ?
That 's good news for apple .
I wonder if he hatches from a pod .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they must be able to clone him now?
That's good news for apple.
I wonder if he hatches from a pod.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28127413</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>Have Brain Will Rent</author>
	<datestamp>1243539480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmmm so my two patents on fire and the wheel aren't as impressive as your 47 patents on lanyards? OK, good to know.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) <br> <br>

BTW speaking as someone whose work has received more than one patent I can tell you that someone's name being on a patent doesn't necessarily mean they contributed in any intellectual way. They may simply have provided money. I'm not dismissing the importance of money to a design coming into existence but I'm not so sure that anyone should be listed as an inventor if they didn't make an intellectual contribution to the design.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm so my two patents on fire and the wheel are n't as impressive as your 47 patents on lanyards ?
OK , good to know .
; ) BTW speaking as someone whose work has received more than one patent I can tell you that someone 's name being on a patent does n't necessarily mean they contributed in any intellectual way .
They may simply have provided money .
I 'm not dismissing the importance of money to a design coming into existence but I 'm not so sure that anyone should be listed as an inventor if they did n't make an intellectual contribution to the design .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm so my two patents on fire and the wheel aren't as impressive as your 47 patents on lanyards?
OK, good to know.
;)  

BTW speaking as someone whose work has received more than one patent I can tell you that someone's name being on a patent doesn't necessarily mean they contributed in any intellectual way.
They may simply have provided money.
I'm not dismissing the importance of money to a design coming into existence but I'm not so sure that anyone should be listed as an inventor if they didn't make an intellectual contribution to the design.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124975</id>
	<title>Absolute Bullshit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243531020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, I looked at the patent on this before posting this because I initially thought, was "BULLSHIT, you can't patent a fucking staircase.  There has to be something being left out." </p><p>But, I was wrong wrong wrong.</p><p>About the only descriptive text in the patent.</p><p><i>"We claim the ornamental design for a staircase, substantially as shown and described."</i> </p><p>I know he has made some cool tech contributions, but this is absurd!!!<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , I looked at the patent on this before posting this because I initially thought , was " BULLSHIT , you ca n't patent a fucking staircase .
There has to be something being left out .
" But , I was wrong wrong wrong.About the only descriptive text in the patent .
" We claim the ornamental design for a staircase , substantially as shown and described .
" I know he has made some cool tech contributions , but this is absurd ! ! !
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, I looked at the patent on this before posting this because I initially thought, was "BULLSHIT, you can't patent a fucking staircase.
There has to be something being left out.
" But, I was wrong wrong wrong.About the only descriptive text in the patent.
"We claim the ornamental design for a staircase, substantially as shown and described.
" I know he has made some cool tech contributions, but this is absurd!!!
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28137311</id>
	<title>Re:Gosh, I almost misread that...</title>
	<author>beetle496</author>
	<datestamp>1243604340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I misread the heading as the Unexpected  patience of Steve Jobs.  I read the heading a second time, since I knew that couldn't be right!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I misread the heading as the Unexpected patience of Steve Jobs .
I read the heading a second time , since I knew that could n't be right !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I misread the heading as the Unexpected  patience of Steve Jobs.
I read the heading a second time, since I knew that couldn't be right!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124805</id>
	<title>Re:What about Dave?</title>
	<author>Red Flayer</author>
	<datestamp>1243530240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What about Dave Thomas? Arguably a much more famous CEO considering how many commercials he starred in.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Wait, what?  It's the "most famous <b>tech</b> CEO" (emphasis mine).<br> <br>Or you must know something about Wendy's products that the rest of us don't... can Frosties and Wendy's baked potatoes be used as wi-fi receivers or something?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about Dave Thomas ?
Arguably a much more famous CEO considering how many commercials he starred in .
Wait , what ?
It 's the " most famous tech CEO " ( emphasis mine ) .
Or you must know something about Wendy 's products that the rest of us do n't... can Frosties and Wendy 's baked potatoes be used as wi-fi receivers or something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about Dave Thomas?
Arguably a much more famous CEO considering how many commercials he starred in.
Wait, what?
It's the "most famous tech CEO" (emphasis mine).
Or you must know something about Wendy's products that the rest of us don't... can Frosties and Wendy's baked potatoes be used as wi-fi receivers or something?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124287</id>
	<title>His patent on packaging should be invalid</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243528200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The black turtleneck has a long history that should count as prior art.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The black turtleneck has a long history that should count as prior art .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The black turtleneck has a long history that should count as prior art.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28125065</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243531440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm not sure about that.  I don't know a lot about Gates' role, but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted, and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so.</p></div><p>And just how do you <b>know</b> this?  Or are you just making assumptions?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure about that .
I do n't know a lot about Gates ' role , but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted , and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so.And just how do you know this ?
Or are you just making assumptions ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure about that.
I don't know a lot about Gates' role, but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted, and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so.And just how do you know this?
Or are you just making assumptions?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124451</id>
	<title>Re:*cough*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243528800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bill Gates is <a href="http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5i8aV1bK5vmwLaw9wYr9nY5bFc4YA" title="google.com">not a CEO anymore</a> [google.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bill Gates is not a CEO anymore [ google.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bill Gates is not a CEO anymore [google.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28125561</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243533540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Yes, it seems like Jobs wants to have his name on stuff for the cool factor. 'Look what I did.' Even when he didn't do all that much.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Okaaayyy.... all those who were founding partners of a computer company that has captured <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8" title="hitslink.com">10\% usage share</a> [hitslink.com], please raise their hands.  Those people are allowed to make snarky comments about how little Steve Jobs knows.  Everyone else, STFU.  Unless you have worked with the man personally or have a reasonable assurance that he acts this way, what you've asserted is completely unfounded.  The same goes for Ballmer and Gates (even though Ballmer didn't get in until 1980).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it seems like Jobs wants to have his name on stuff for the cool factor .
'Look what I did .
' Even when he did n't do all that much .
Okaaayyy.... all those who were founding partners of a computer company that has captured 10 \ % usage share [ hitslink.com ] , please raise their hands .
Those people are allowed to make snarky comments about how little Steve Jobs knows .
Everyone else , STFU .
Unless you have worked with the man personally or have a reasonable assurance that he acts this way , what you 've asserted is completely unfounded .
The same goes for Ballmer and Gates ( even though Ballmer did n't get in until 1980 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it seems like Jobs wants to have his name on stuff for the cool factor.
'Look what I did.
' Even when he didn't do all that much.
Okaaayyy.... all those who were founding partners of a computer company that has captured 10\% usage share [hitslink.com], please raise their hands.
Those people are allowed to make snarky comments about how little Steve Jobs knows.
Everyone else, STFU.
Unless you have worked with the man personally or have a reasonable assurance that he acts this way, what you've asserted is completely unfounded.
The same goes for Ballmer and Gates (even though Ballmer didn't get in until 1980).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28125321</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>0xdeadbeef</author>
	<datestamp>1243532520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Don't get me wrong, Jobs is a brilliant engender and programmer</i></p><p>He thinks <a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/26/1322223" title="slashdot.org">Objective-C is the perfect language</a> [slashdot.org]. All he engenders is mockery.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't get me wrong , Jobs is a brilliant engender and programmerHe thinks Objective-C is the perfect language [ slashdot.org ] .
All he engenders is mockery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't get me wrong, Jobs is a brilliant engender and programmerHe thinks Objective-C is the perfect language [slashdot.org].
All he engenders is mockery.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28127659</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>E IS mC(Square)</author>
	<datestamp>1243540140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt;&gt; Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your hands<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... definitely marketing/business for Gates.
<br> <br>
Not sure about that, but your comment is a 100\% accurate indication of what kind of fanboi you are. FFS, just because Steve Wonderful Jobs' name is on all those patent does not mean he actually deserves it/invented it - its more like my boss few years back who was first in the queue to get awards and last whenever shit hit the fan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your hands ... definitely marketing/business for Gates .
Not sure about that , but your comment is a 100 \ % accurate indication of what kind of fanboi you are .
FFS , just because Steve Wonderful Jobs ' name is on all those patent does not mean he actually deserves it/invented it - its more like my boss few years back who was first in the queue to get awards and last whenever shit hit the fan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your hands ... definitely marketing/business for Gates.
Not sure about that, but your comment is a 100\% accurate indication of what kind of fanboi you are.
FFS, just because Steve Wonderful Jobs' name is on all those patent does not mean he actually deserves it/invented it - its more like my boss few years back who was first in the queue to get awards and last whenever shit hit the fan.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28125195</id>
	<title>Re:Apple</title>
	<author>perryizgr8</author>
	<datestamp>1243531980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>eh? what? oh, fuck you jobs!</htmltext>
<tokenext>eh ?
what ? oh , fuck you jobs !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>eh?
what? oh, fuck you jobs!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124607</id>
	<title>Re:Apple Staircase</title>
	<author>SchizoStatic</author>
	<datestamp>1243529340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't give them more ideas. I am waiting for the official iBed which lets me plug all apple products into to control my dreams and tell me to buy more apple products.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't give them more ideas .
I am waiting for the official iBed which lets me plug all apple products into to control my dreams and tell me to buy more apple products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't give them more ideas.
I am waiting for the official iBed which lets me plug all apple products into to control my dreams and tell me to buy more apple products.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28125037</id>
	<title>Re:Steve Jobs has been patented??</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1243531320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The clone springs, fully grown, from a pouch sown into the thigh of an existing Steve Jobs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The clone springs , fully grown , from a pouch sown into the thigh of an existing Steve Jobs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The clone springs, fully grown, from a pouch sown into the thigh of an existing Steve Jobs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124543</id>
	<title>Clarity for you</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1243529160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>*cough* Bill Gates*cough*</i></p><p>He said famous, not infamous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* cough * Bill Gates * cough * He said famous , not infamous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*cough* Bill Gates*cough*He said famous, not infamous.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124383</id>
	<title>Apple Staircase</title>
	<author>ardor</author>
	<datestamp>1243528560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p><p>A shiny staircase with Carrara marble steps and sides covered with quartz glass, but one needs special apple iShoes to use it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm ..A shiny staircase with Carrara marble steps and sides covered with quartz glass , but one needs special apple iShoes to use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm ..A shiny staircase with Carrara marble steps and sides covered with quartz glass, but one needs special apple iShoes to use it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124779</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>Philip K Dickhead</author>
	<datestamp>1243530180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Praiseworthy? You been watchin' too much Oprah, Willis!</p><p>Look, his "philanthropy" is just more oligarchal, social and economic control for an elite agenda.</p><p>"They need to be independent of government agencies, which are unable to head off the disaster we all see looming."</p><p>Why all the secrecy? "They wanted to speak rich to rich without worrying anything they said would end up in the newspapers, painting them as an alternative world government,"<br><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us\_and\_americas/article6350303.ece" title="timesonline.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us\_and\_americas/article6350303.ece</a> [timesonline.co.uk]</p><p>He's also a Bilderberger.  He wants to turn mosquitoes into flying syringes - to inject folks with agents that serve the "Overpopulation" agenda.</p><p>Overpopulation?  That's your children, mate.  The world can sustain 10,000 ordinary mortals for the same resources that support Gate's own two children.</p><p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Story?id=7628545&amp;page=1" title="go.com" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Story?id=7628545&amp;page=1</a> [go.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30851839/" title="msn.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30851839/</a> [msn.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/05202009/news/regionalnews/worlds\_richest\_hold\_secret\_meeting\_170193.htm" title="nypost.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/seven/05202009/news/regionalnews/worlds\_richest\_hold\_secret\_meeting\_170193.htm</a> [nypost.com]</p><p>Watch Goodman on the agenda of the BMGF<br><a href="http://www.snapbuzz.com/view/video/6051/" title="snapbuzz.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.snapbuzz.com/view/video/6051/</a> [snapbuzz.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Praiseworthy ?
You been watchin ' too much Oprah , Willis ! Look , his " philanthropy " is just more oligarchal , social and economic control for an elite agenda .
" They need to be independent of government agencies , which are unable to head off the disaster we all see looming .
" Why all the secrecy ?
" They wanted to speak rich to rich without worrying anything they said would end up in the newspapers , painting them as an alternative world government , " http : //www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us \ _and \ _americas/article6350303.ece [ timesonline.co.uk ] He 's also a Bilderberger .
He wants to turn mosquitoes into flying syringes - to inject folks with agents that serve the " Overpopulation " agenda.Overpopulation ?
That 's your children , mate .
The world can sustain 10,000 ordinary mortals for the same resources that support Gate 's own two children.http : //abcnews.go.com/Business/Story ? id = 7628545&amp;page = 1 [ go.com ] http : //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30851839/ [ msn.com ] http : //www.nypost.com/seven/05202009/news/regionalnews/worlds \ _richest \ _hold \ _secret \ _meeting \ _170193.htm [ nypost.com ] Watch Goodman on the agenda of the BMGFhttp : //www.snapbuzz.com/view/video/6051/ [ snapbuzz.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Praiseworthy?
You been watchin' too much Oprah, Willis!Look, his "philanthropy" is just more oligarchal, social and economic control for an elite agenda.
"They need to be independent of government agencies, which are unable to head off the disaster we all see looming.
"Why all the secrecy?
"They wanted to speak rich to rich without worrying anything they said would end up in the newspapers, painting them as an alternative world government,"http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us\_and\_americas/article6350303.ece [timesonline.co.uk]He's also a Bilderberger.
He wants to turn mosquitoes into flying syringes - to inject folks with agents that serve the "Overpopulation" agenda.Overpopulation?
That's your children, mate.
The world can sustain 10,000 ordinary mortals for the same resources that support Gate's own two children.http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Story?id=7628545&amp;page=1 [go.com]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30851839/ [msn.com]http://www.nypost.com/seven/05202009/news/regionalnews/worlds\_richest\_hold\_secret\_meeting\_170193.htm [nypost.com]Watch Goodman on the agenda of the BMGFhttp://www.snapbuzz.com/view/video/6051/ [snapbuzz.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124641</id>
	<title>So, the question is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243529460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... how many of these did he steal from Woz?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... how many of these did he steal from Woz ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... how many of these did he steal from Woz?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28132853</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>edward2020</author>
	<datestamp>1243517940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>wow - note the extent of my enthusiasm</htmltext>
<tokenext>wow - note the extent of my enthusiasm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wow - note the extent of my enthusiasm</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124803</id>
	<title>if you're a hammer</title>
	<author>Lexible</author>
	<datestamp>1243530240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>everything looks like a nail: steve runs a company that does its business by patenting. it's no surprise that he thinks of things in his life in terms of patents.</htmltext>
<tokenext>everything looks like a nail : steve runs a company that does its business by patenting .
it 's no surprise that he thinks of things in his life in terms of patents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>everything looks like a nail: steve runs a company that does its business by patenting.
it's no surprise that he thinks of things in his life in terms of patents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124985</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243531080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Philanthropy? HAH! More like eugenics and population reduction.</p><p>He just met with other billionaires, like Ted Turner who has called for a 95\% reduction in population and for 1 child policies (while he has 5).</p><p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us\_and\_americas/article6350303.ece" title="timesonline.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us\_and\_americas/article6350303.ece</a> [timesonline.co.uk]</p><p>Don't forget that Gates' father was the President of Planned Parenthood which was created by Margaret Sanger who was a proud eugenicist and racist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Philanthropy ?
HAH ! More like eugenics and population reduction.He just met with other billionaires , like Ted Turner who has called for a 95 \ % reduction in population and for 1 child policies ( while he has 5 ) .http : //www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us \ _and \ _americas/article6350303.ece [ timesonline.co.uk ] Do n't forget that Gates ' father was the President of Planned Parenthood which was created by Margaret Sanger who was a proud eugenicist and racist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Philanthropy?
HAH! More like eugenics and population reduction.He just met with other billionaires, like Ted Turner who has called for a 95\% reduction in population and for 1 child policies (while he has 5).http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us\_and\_americas/article6350303.ece [timesonline.co.uk]Don't forget that Gates' father was the President of Planned Parenthood which was created by Margaret Sanger who was a proud eugenicist and racist.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124567</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>Colonel Korn</author>
	<datestamp>1243529220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>His name is also on <a href="http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPATD566691" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">a patent for the earphones/iPod lanyard</a> [google.com] and that patent references 47 other patents.</p><p>You can find a complete list of <a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;p=1&amp;u=\%2Fnetahtml\%2FPTO\%2Fsearch-adv.htm&amp;r=0&amp;f=S&amp;l=50&amp;d=PTXT&amp;Query=IN\%2F\%22Jobs\%2C+Steve\%22" title="uspto.gov" rel="nofollow">Steve's patents here</a> [uspto.gov].  For what it's worth, I find Jobs listed on 100 patents or patent applications and Bill Gates <a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;u=\%2Fnetahtml\%2FPTO\%2Fsearch-adv.htm&amp;r=0&amp;f=S&amp;l=50&amp;d=PTXT&amp;RS=(IN\%2F\%22Gates\%2C+III\%3B+William+H\%22+OR+IN\%2F\%22Gates\%3B+William+H\%22)&amp;Refine=Refine+Search&amp;Refine=Refine+Search&amp;Query=IN\%2F\%22Gates\%2C+III\%3B+William+H\%22" title="uspto.gov" rel="nofollow">listed on two</a> [uspto.gov] as the inventor.</p><p>Probably a fair indication of what <i>kind</i> of leader you have on your hands<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... definitely marketing/business for Gates.</p></div><p>I'm not sure about that.  I don't know a lot about Gates' role, but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted, and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so.</p></div>
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<tokenext>His name is also on a patent for the earphones/iPod lanyard [ google.com ] and that patent references 47 other patents.You can find a complete list of Steve 's patents here [ uspto.gov ] .
For what it 's worth , I find Jobs listed on 100 patents or patent applications and Bill Gates listed on two [ uspto.gov ] as the inventor.Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your hands ... definitely marketing/business for Gates.I 'm not sure about that .
I do n't know a lot about Gates ' role , but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted , and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His name is also on a patent for the earphones/iPod lanyard [google.com] and that patent references 47 other patents.You can find a complete list of Steve's patents here [uspto.gov].
For what it's worth, I find Jobs listed on 100 patents or patent applications and Bill Gates listed on two [uspto.gov] as the inventor.Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your hands ... definitely marketing/business for Gates.I'm not sure about that.
I don't know a lot about Gates' role, but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted, and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124873</id>
	<title>So ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243530540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All of a sudden patents are all cool and nice and nicer!<br>Just because Steve has few!?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All of a sudden patents are all cool and nice and nicer ! Just because Steve has few !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of a sudden patents are all cool and nice and nicer!Just because Steve has few!
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28151271</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243714560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...which may be the primary motivation for his philanthropy. He could have named it the "Happy Helping People Foundation" or even the "Microsoft Charitable Foundation" but somehow decided on the "Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation".</p><p>Now that I've gotten that rant off my chest, I wish the foundation great success in helping people around the world. As a wise friend once said, even if the money has a checkered past, it's a good thing if it can be directed towards a good end.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...which may be the primary motivation for his philanthropy .
He could have named it the " Happy Helping People Foundation " or even the " Microsoft Charitable Foundation " but somehow decided on the " Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation " .Now that I 've gotten that rant off my chest , I wish the foundation great success in helping people around the world .
As a wise friend once said , even if the money has a checkered past , it 's a good thing if it can be directed towards a good end .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...which may be the primary motivation for his philanthropy.
He could have named it the "Happy Helping People Foundation" or even the "Microsoft Charitable Foundation" but somehow decided on the "Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation".Now that I've gotten that rant off my chest, I wish the foundation great success in helping people around the world.
As a wise friend once said, even if the money has a checkered past, it's a good thing if it can be directed towards a good end.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28135055</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>4D6963</author>
	<datestamp>1243534980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I heard an anecdote about the development of the original Mac OS calculator program in the 1980s. Some kid made it all, but everytime he'd show the result to Jobs, Jobs would tell him to change something about the design. This went back and forth until the programmer made a sort of parameters editor so that Jobs himself could fine tune the design of the calculator. I kind of suck at telling anecdotes but I can't be arsed to google for it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard an anecdote about the development of the original Mac OS calculator program in the 1980s .
Some kid made it all , but everytime he 'd show the result to Jobs , Jobs would tell him to change something about the design .
This went back and forth until the programmer made a sort of parameters editor so that Jobs himself could fine tune the design of the calculator .
I kind of suck at telling anecdotes but I ca n't be arsed to google for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard an anecdote about the development of the original Mac OS calculator program in the 1980s.
Some kid made it all, but everytime he'd show the result to Jobs, Jobs would tell him to change something about the design.
This went back and forth until the programmer made a sort of parameters editor so that Jobs himself could fine tune the design of the calculator.
I kind of suck at telling anecdotes but I can't be arsed to google for it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124381</id>
	<title>Re:*cough*</title>
	<author>harryandthehenderson</author>
	<datestamp>1243528560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm pretty sure they were referring to only those people who are currently CEOs. Not people who haven't held the position of CEO of a company for 9 years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure they were referring to only those people who are currently CEOs .
Not people who have n't held the position of CEO of a company for 9 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure they were referring to only those people who are currently CEOs.
Not people who haven't held the position of CEO of a company for 9 years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28127087</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>crunchy666</author>
	<datestamp>1243538580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Business is unpleasant.  Anyone who thinks otherwise should not go into business for themselves.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Business is unpleasant .
Anyone who thinks otherwise should not go into business for themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Business is unpleasant.
Anyone who thinks otherwise should not go into business for themselves.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124793</id>
	<title>Re:iStairs!</title>
	<author>FatdogHaiku</author>
	<datestamp>1243530240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Great, I have to buy another pair of shoes because the ones I have won't work with the new stairs... and I want my old DOS flip flops back too!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Great , I have to buy another pair of shoes because the ones I have wo n't work with the new stairs... and I want my old DOS flip flops back too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great, I have to buy another pair of shoes because the ones I have won't work with the new stairs... and I want my old DOS flip flops back too!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28125219</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243532040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>And what does any of that have to do with name recognition?</htmltext>
<tokenext>And what does any of that have to do with name recognition ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what does any of that have to do with name recognition?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124415</id>
	<title>iStairs!</title>
	<author>AioKits</author>
	<datestamp>1243528620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Finally, a sectioned inclined surface for ascent and descent, for the rest of us!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally , a sectioned inclined surface for ascent and descent , for the rest of us !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally, a sectioned inclined surface for ascent and descent, for the rest of us!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124369</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>JCSoRocks</author>
	<datestamp>1243528440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Meh, you're never going to hear about the products because they're all like this... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGJuD9hVtTI" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGJuD9hVtTI</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh , you 're never going to hear about the products because they 're all like this... http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = UGJuD9hVtTI [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh, you're never going to hear about the products because they're all like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGJuD9hVtTI [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124565</id>
	<title>Gosh, I almost misread that...</title>
	<author>idontgno</author>
	<datestamp>1243529220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The Unexpected <strong>Pants</strong> of Steve Jobs"</p><p>Like he inadvertently wore Hawaiian-print Bermuda shorts with his mock turtleneck.</p><p>The weird thing is that we'd probably never notice, with the RDF making us see what we expect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The Unexpected Pants of Steve Jobs " Like he inadvertently wore Hawaiian-print Bermuda shorts with his mock turtleneck.The weird thing is that we 'd probably never notice , with the RDF making us see what we expect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The Unexpected Pants of Steve Jobs"Like he inadvertently wore Hawaiian-print Bermuda shorts with his mock turtleneck.The weird thing is that we'd probably never notice, with the RDF making us see what we expect.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124345</id>
	<title>*cough*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243528320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>They all add up to an interesting portrait of the world's most famous tech CEO."</i></p><p>*cough* Bill Gates*cough*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They all add up to an interesting portrait of the world 's most famous tech CEO .
" * cough * Bill Gates * cough *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They all add up to an interesting portrait of the world's most famous tech CEO.
"*cough* Bill Gates*cough*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28126095</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243535400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're just jealous b/c you're not a FLUORESCENT monkey!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're just jealous b/c you 're not a FLUORESCENT monkey !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're just jealous b/c you're not a FLUORESCENT monkey!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124847</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1243530480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your hands<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... definitely marketing/business for Gates.</p></div><p>I don't understand how you can come to a conclusion like that.  All that shows is that Steve Jobs thinks that it's important to get his name on patents, and Bill Gates doesn't.  I can't find definite numbers, but Apple has at least 2000 patents, and Microsoft had at least 5000 three years ago.  Frankly, I think the fact that Steve Jobs is more interested in getting his name on patents means that <b>he</b> is the more business and marketing-oriented of the two, not Gates.  Gates <i>could</i> have his name on several thousand patents, but apparently he didn't think that was important.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your hands ... definitely marketing/business for Gates.I do n't understand how you can come to a conclusion like that .
All that shows is that Steve Jobs thinks that it 's important to get his name on patents , and Bill Gates does n't .
I ca n't find definite numbers , but Apple has at least 2000 patents , and Microsoft had at least 5000 three years ago .
Frankly , I think the fact that Steve Jobs is more interested in getting his name on patents means that he is the more business and marketing-oriented of the two , not Gates .
Gates could have his name on several thousand patents , but apparently he did n't think that was important .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your hands ... definitely marketing/business for Gates.I don't understand how you can come to a conclusion like that.
All that shows is that Steve Jobs thinks that it's important to get his name on patents, and Bill Gates doesn't.
I can't find definite numbers, but Apple has at least 2000 patents, and Microsoft had at least 5000 three years ago.
Frankly, I think the fact that Steve Jobs is more interested in getting his name on patents means that he is the more business and marketing-oriented of the two, not Gates.
Gates could have his name on several thousand patents, but apparently he didn't think that was important.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124851</id>
	<title>Re:What about Dave?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243530480000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Last I checked, Wendy's was not a tech company... regardless of how many people in IT eat there.  Also, Dave Thomas is dead, and thus probably not a CEO anymore, either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last I checked , Wendy 's was not a tech company... regardless of how many people in IT eat there .
Also , Dave Thomas is dead , and thus probably not a CEO anymore , either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last I checked, Wendy's was not a tech company... regardless of how many people in IT eat there.
Also, Dave Thomas is dead, and thus probably not a CEO anymore, either.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124269</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1243528140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Or gives an impression of said leaders' relative enthusiasm for putting their names on patents...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or gives an impression of said leaders ' relative enthusiasm for putting their names on patents.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or gives an impression of said leaders' relative enthusiasm for putting their names on patents...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124781</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243530180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is a "Lanyard" a gay black turtleneck?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is a " Lanyard " a gay black turtleneck ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is a "Lanyard" a gay black turtleneck?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124367</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>harryandthehenderson</author>
	<datestamp>1243528440000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Bill Gates has better name recognition than Jobs, if only because his philanthropy reaches so many more people than Jobs' work does.</p></div><p>Of what tech company is Bill Gates a CEO of?  I'm pretty sure he stopped being the CEO of Microsoft back in 2000 when Steve Ballmer took over.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bill Gates has better name recognition than Jobs , if only because his philanthropy reaches so many more people than Jobs ' work does.Of what tech company is Bill Gates a CEO of ?
I 'm pretty sure he stopped being the CEO of Microsoft back in 2000 when Steve Ballmer took over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bill Gates has better name recognition than Jobs, if only because his philanthropy reaches so many more people than Jobs' work does.Of what tech company is Bill Gates a CEO of?
I'm pretty sure he stopped being the CEO of Microsoft back in 2000 when Steve Ballmer took over.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124343</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>apodyopsis</author>
	<datestamp>1243528320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>His philanthropic accomplishments are certainly praiseworthy, but it's worth remembering that his vast wealth was mainly accumulated with some really unpleasent business tactics.<br> <br>
See "A History of Anticompetitive Behavior and Consumer Harm"<br>
<a href="http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion\_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf" title="www.ecis.eu">http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion\_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf</a> [www.ecis.eu] <br> <br>

Whilst I congratulate the man for subsidising research and giving to worthy causes I have to wonder if he would do so much if he was not one of the worlds richest man.</htmltext>
<tokenext>His philanthropic accomplishments are certainly praiseworthy , but it 's worth remembering that his vast wealth was mainly accumulated with some really unpleasent business tactics .
See " A History of Anticompetitive Behavior and Consumer Harm " http : //www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion \ _Consumerchoicepaper.pdf [ www.ecis.eu ] Whilst I congratulate the man for subsidising research and giving to worthy causes I have to wonder if he would do so much if he was not one of the worlds richest man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His philanthropic accomplishments are certainly praiseworthy, but it's worth remembering that his vast wealth was mainly accumulated with some really unpleasent business tactics.
See "A History of Anticompetitive Behavior and Consumer Harm"
http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion\_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf [www.ecis.eu]  

Whilst I congratulate the man for subsidising research and giving to worthy causes I have to wonder if he would do so much if he was not one of the worlds richest man.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124179</id>
	<title>Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1243527840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>

His name is also on <a href="http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPATD566691" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">a patent for the earphones/iPod lanyard</a> [google.com] and that patent references 47 other patents.  <br> <br>

You can find a complete list of <a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;p=1&amp;u=\%2Fnetahtml\%2FPTO\%2Fsearch-adv.htm&amp;r=0&amp;f=S&amp;l=50&amp;d=PTXT&amp;Query=IN\%2F\%22Jobs\%2C+Steve\%22" title="uspto.gov" rel="nofollow">Steve's patents here</a> [uspto.gov].  For what it's worth, I find Jobs listed on 100 patents or patent applications and Bill Gates <a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;u=\%2Fnetahtml\%2FPTO\%2Fsearch-adv.htm&amp;r=0&amp;f=S&amp;l=50&amp;d=PTXT&amp;RS=(IN\%2F\%22Gates\%2C+III\%3B+William+H\%22+OR+IN\%2F\%22Gates\%3B+William+H\%22)&amp;Refine=Refine+Search&amp;Refine=Refine+Search&amp;Query=IN\%2F\%22Gates\%2C+III\%3B+William+H\%22" title="uspto.gov" rel="nofollow">listed on two</a> [uspto.gov] as the inventor.  <br> <br>

Probably a fair indication of what <i>kind</i> of leader you have on your hands<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... definitely marketing/business for Gates.</htmltext>
<tokenext>His name is also on a patent for the earphones/iPod lanyard [ google.com ] and that patent references 47 other patents .
You can find a complete list of Steve 's patents here [ uspto.gov ] .
For what it 's worth , I find Jobs listed on 100 patents or patent applications and Bill Gates listed on two [ uspto.gov ] as the inventor .
Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your hands ... definitely marketing/business for Gates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>

His name is also on a patent for the earphones/iPod lanyard [google.com] and that patent references 47 other patents.
You can find a complete list of Steve's patents here [uspto.gov].
For what it's worth, I find Jobs listed on 100 patents or patent applications and Bill Gates listed on two [uspto.gov] as the inventor.
Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your hands ... definitely marketing/business for Gates.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28125805</id>
	<title>Re:What about Dave?</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1243534320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sou you think to people who are not CEOs are the most recognized CEO's? wha?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sou you think to people who are not CEOs are the most recognized CEO 's ?
wha ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sou you think to people who are not CEOs are the most recognized CEO's?
wha?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28135105</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>4D6963</author>
	<datestamp>1243535400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bill Gates has better name recognition because a) he was the richest man in the world for 10 years straight and b) he was the co-founder and CEO of the company that made the operating system that everybody and their momma used on pretty much any computer they got to use.</p><p>He's not famous because he's a philanthropist, he's a philanthropist because he's astronomically rich and famous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bill Gates has better name recognition because a ) he was the richest man in the world for 10 years straight and b ) he was the co-founder and CEO of the company that made the operating system that everybody and their momma used on pretty much any computer they got to use.He 's not famous because he 's a philanthropist , he 's a philanthropist because he 's astronomically rich and famous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bill Gates has better name recognition because a) he was the richest man in the world for 10 years straight and b) he was the co-founder and CEO of the company that made the operating system that everybody and their momma used on pretty much any computer they got to use.He's not famous because he's a philanthropist, he's a philanthropist because he's astronomically rich and famous.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28126915</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>networkBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1243538040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As to balmer I present the following evidence towards open mockery:<br>Monkey Dance:<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc4MzqBFxZE" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc4MzqBFxZE</a> [youtube.com]<br>Windows 1.0 sales pitch:<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk</a> [youtube.com]<br>Developers:<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d\_AP3SGMxxM" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d\_AP3SGMxxM</a> [youtube.com]<br>on google:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>"At some point in the conversation, Mr. Ballmer said: 'Just tell me it's not Google,'' Lucovosky said in his statement. Lucovosky replied that he was joining Google. 'At that point, Mr. Ballmer picked up a chair and threw it across the room hitting a table in his office,' Lucovosky recounted, adding that Ballmer then launched into a tirade about Google CEO Eric Schmidt. 'I'm going to f***ing bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I'm going to f***ing kill Google.' Schmidt previously worked for Sun Microsystems and was the CEO of Novell."</p></div><p>I rest my case...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As to balmer I present the following evidence towards open mockery : Monkey Dance : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = Nc4MzqBFxZE [ youtube.com ] Windows 1.0 sales pitch : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = tGvHNNOLnCk [ youtube.com ] Developers : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = d \ _AP3SGMxxM [ youtube.com ] on google : " At some point in the conversation , Mr. Ballmer said : 'Just tell me it 's not Google,' ' Lucovosky said in his statement .
Lucovosky replied that he was joining Google .
'At that point , Mr. Ballmer picked up a chair and threw it across the room hitting a table in his office, ' Lucovosky recounted , adding that Ballmer then launched into a tirade about Google CEO Eric Schmidt .
'I 'm going to f * * * ing bury that guy , I have done it before , and I will do it again .
I 'm going to f * * * ing kill Google .
' Schmidt previously worked for Sun Microsystems and was the CEO of Novell .
" I rest my case.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As to balmer I present the following evidence towards open mockery:Monkey Dance:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc4MzqBFxZE [youtube.com]Windows 1.0 sales pitch:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk [youtube.com]Developers:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d\_AP3SGMxxM [youtube.com]on google:"At some point in the conversation, Mr. Ballmer said: 'Just tell me it's not Google,'' Lucovosky said in his statement.
Lucovosky replied that he was joining Google.
'At that point, Mr. Ballmer picked up a chair and threw it across the room hitting a table in his office,' Lucovosky recounted, adding that Ballmer then launched into a tirade about Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
'I'm going to f***ing bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again.
I'm going to f***ing kill Google.
' Schmidt previously worked for Sun Microsystems and was the CEO of Novell.
"I rest my case...
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124267</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243528080000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Bill Gates has better name recognition than Jobs, if only because his philanthropy reaches so many more people than Jobs' work does.</p></div></blockquote><p>And yet Bill Gates is no longer a tech CEO, so he is removed from consideration.<br> <br>Jobs' status is currently "in limbo" AFAIK, but he is technically still CEO of Apple per their regulatory filings.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bill Gates has better name recognition than Jobs , if only because his philanthropy reaches so many more people than Jobs ' work does.And yet Bill Gates is no longer a tech CEO , so he is removed from consideration .
Jobs ' status is currently " in limbo " AFAIK , but he is technically still CEO of Apple per their regulatory filings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bill Gates has better name recognition than Jobs, if only because his philanthropy reaches so many more people than Jobs' work does.And yet Bill Gates is no longer a tech CEO, so he is removed from consideration.
Jobs' status is currently "in limbo" AFAIK, but he is technically still CEO of Apple per their regulatory filings.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28125045</id>
	<title>Fashinable Dandies?</title>
	<author>Philip K Dickhead</author>
	<datestamp>1243531380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They take credit for <i>nothing</i>!<br>Acheivements, like other forms of industry, are beneath them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They take credit for nothing ! Acheivements , like other forms of industry , are beneath them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They take credit for nothing!Acheivements, like other forms of industry, are beneath them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28125775</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1243534200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>His philanthropic accomplishments are certainly praiseworthy</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-gatesx07jan07,0,290910,full.story" title="latimes.com">O RLY?</a> [latimes.com] </p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>His philanthropic accomplishments are certainly praiseworthy O RLY ?
[ latimes.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His philanthropic accomplishments are certainly praiseworthy O RLY?
[latimes.com] 
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124243</id>
	<title>Apple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243528020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am Steve Jobs and I am here to ask you a question:<br>Is a man not entitled to his own computer?</p><p>No, says the man in Washington; it belongs to the poor.<br>No, says the man in the Vatican; it belongs to God.<br>No, says the man in Moscow; it belongs to everyone.</p><p>I rejected those answers.  Instead, I chose something<br>different.  I chose the impossible.  I chose<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Apple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am Steve Jobs and I am here to ask you a question : Is a man not entitled to his own computer ? No , says the man in Washington ; it belongs to the poor.No , says the man in the Vatican ; it belongs to God.No , says the man in Moscow ; it belongs to everyone.I rejected those answers .
Instead , I chose somethingdifferent .
I chose the impossible .
I chose ... Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am Steve Jobs and I am here to ask you a question:Is a man not entitled to his own computer?No, says the man in Washington; it belongs to the poor.No, says the man in the Vatican; it belongs to God.No, says the man in Moscow; it belongs to everyone.I rejected those answers.
Instead, I chose somethingdifferent.
I chose the impossible.
I chose ... Apple.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28127737</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>harlows\_monkeys</author>
	<datestamp>1243540380000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I don't know a lot about Gates' role, but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted, and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so.</p></div></blockquote><p>You are almost certainly wrong, as the patent attorneys who drew up the patents would not have put Jobs on them unless he in fact made a significant inventive contribution.  Patent law <b>requires</b> that a patent list all of the actual inventors, and <b>only</b> the actual inventors.  List someone who wasn't a real inventor, or leave a real inventor out, and your patent is invalid.</p><p>If Apple ever has to sue someone over one of those patents, the defendant will get to depose Jobs, and will ask him under oath exactly what his contribution was, and if all he can say was "I was CEO", that suit will go nowhere.</p><p>He may not be the main inventory, or contributed to all the things claimed on the patents, but you can be sure there will be something in that patent that really was contributed by him.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know a lot about Gates ' role , but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted , and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so.You are almost certainly wrong , as the patent attorneys who drew up the patents would not have put Jobs on them unless he in fact made a significant inventive contribution .
Patent law requires that a patent list all of the actual inventors , and only the actual inventors .
List someone who was n't a real inventor , or leave a real inventor out , and your patent is invalid.If Apple ever has to sue someone over one of those patents , the defendant will get to depose Jobs , and will ask him under oath exactly what his contribution was , and if all he can say was " I was CEO " , that suit will go nowhere.He may not be the main inventory , or contributed to all the things claimed on the patents , but you can be sure there will be something in that patent that really was contributed by him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know a lot about Gates' role, but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted, and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so.You are almost certainly wrong, as the patent attorneys who drew up the patents would not have put Jobs on them unless he in fact made a significant inventive contribution.
Patent law requires that a patent list all of the actual inventors, and only the actual inventors.
List someone who wasn't a real inventor, or leave a real inventor out, and your patent is invalid.If Apple ever has to sue someone over one of those patents, the defendant will get to depose Jobs, and will ask him under oath exactly what his contribution was, and if all he can say was "I was CEO", that suit will go nowhere.He may not be the main inventory, or contributed to all the things claimed on the patents, but you can be sure there will be something in that patent that really was contributed by him.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124753</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243530060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, it seems like Jobs wants to have his name on stuff for the cool factor.  'Look what I did.'  Even when he didn't do all that much.  <p>Reminds me of a boss I once had that would openly take credit for anything and everything he gave advice on.  We could spend weeks on a project, he would swoop in at the last second and say something like 'it should be blue' and then next week he would tell every one that he designed and built the whole thing from scratch with every one sitting cross legged on the floor in awe and worshiping him.  I quit after not too long.  The man is a jerk.  </p><p>The thing is he was very charming, and the people who he could charm were very talented and were always doing amazing things.  In the end they were so enamored of him that they just let him take credit.</p><p>I think that might be the secret of The Jobs in the end.  People love him enough that they WANT him to take their ideas.  Once he has a few super smart people like that (aka The Woz) and a few major stunningly great products on the market you can pick up more super smart people and the cycle repeats it self.  </p><p>Don't get me wrong, Jobs is a brilliant engender and programmer, but I think he is not as brilliant as his patent portfolio suggests.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it seems like Jobs wants to have his name on stuff for the cool factor .
'Look what I did .
' Even when he did n't do all that much .
Reminds me of a boss I once had that would openly take credit for anything and everything he gave advice on .
We could spend weeks on a project , he would swoop in at the last second and say something like 'it should be blue ' and then next week he would tell every one that he designed and built the whole thing from scratch with every one sitting cross legged on the floor in awe and worshiping him .
I quit after not too long .
The man is a jerk .
The thing is he was very charming , and the people who he could charm were very talented and were always doing amazing things .
In the end they were so enamored of him that they just let him take credit.I think that might be the secret of The Jobs in the end .
People love him enough that they WANT him to take their ideas .
Once he has a few super smart people like that ( aka The Woz ) and a few major stunningly great products on the market you can pick up more super smart people and the cycle repeats it self .
Do n't get me wrong , Jobs is a brilliant engender and programmer , but I think he is not as brilliant as his patent portfolio suggests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it seems like Jobs wants to have his name on stuff for the cool factor.
'Look what I did.
'  Even when he didn't do all that much.
Reminds me of a boss I once had that would openly take credit for anything and everything he gave advice on.
We could spend weeks on a project, he would swoop in at the last second and say something like 'it should be blue' and then next week he would tell every one that he designed and built the whole thing from scratch with every one sitting cross legged on the floor in awe and worshiping him.
I quit after not too long.
The man is a jerk.
The thing is he was very charming, and the people who he could charm were very talented and were always doing amazing things.
In the end they were so enamored of him that they just let him take credit.I think that might be the secret of The Jobs in the end.
People love him enough that they WANT him to take their ideas.
Once he has a few super smart people like that (aka The Woz) and a few major stunningly great products on the market you can pick up more super smart people and the cycle repeats it self.
Don't get me wrong, Jobs is a brilliant engender and programmer, but I think he is not as brilliant as his patent portfolio suggests.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124197</id>
	<title>Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>BadAnalogyGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1243527900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Steve Jobs is not the world's most famous tech CEO.</p><p>Bill Gates has better name recognition than Jobs, if only because his philanthropy reaches so many more people than Jobs' work does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Steve Jobs is not the world 's most famous tech CEO.Bill Gates has better name recognition than Jobs , if only because his philanthropy reaches so many more people than Jobs ' work does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Steve Jobs is not the world's most famous tech CEO.Bill Gates has better name recognition than Jobs, if only because his philanthropy reaches so many more people than Jobs' work does.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124857</id>
	<title>Not unexpected</title>
	<author>Taibhsear</author>
	<datestamp>1243530480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Steve Jobs sure is pants but it's about as unexpected as this pun on slashdot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Steve Jobs sure is pants but it 's about as unexpected as this pun on slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Steve Jobs sure is pants but it's about as unexpected as this pun on slashdot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124315</id>
	<title>I read that as...</title>
	<author>ciderVisor</author>
	<datestamp>1243528260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"unexpected parents".</p><p>I thought TFA was surprised to find that he wasn't a product of the immaculate conception.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" unexpected parents " .I thought TFA was surprised to find that he was n't a product of the immaculate conception .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"unexpected parents".I thought TFA was surprised to find that he wasn't a product of the immaculate conception.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28127805</id>
	<title>You are bullshit...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243540620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What do you know? I have seen a wall-size poster of Steve Jobs climbing down that very staircase with white wings on his back and halo on his head. And that staircase was not just another staircase, it was all white, descending straight from heaven. He looked wicket awesome! <br> <br>Now do you need anther proof that he is Jesus himself, you microsoft/bill g suckers?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What do you know ?
I have seen a wall-size poster of Steve Jobs climbing down that very staircase with white wings on his back and halo on his head .
And that staircase was not just another staircase , it was all white , descending straight from heaven .
He looked wicket awesome !
Now do you need anther proof that he is Jesus himself , you microsoft/bill g suckers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do you know?
I have seen a wall-size poster of Steve Jobs climbing down that very staircase with white wings on his back and halo on his head.
And that staircase was not just another staircase, it was all white, descending straight from heaven.
He looked wicket awesome!
Now do you need anther proof that he is Jesus himself, you microsoft/bill g suckers?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124711</id>
	<title>What about Dave?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243529820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave\_Thomas\_(American\_businessman)" title="wikipedia.org">Dave Thomas</a> [wikipedia.org]? Arguably a much more famous CEO considering how many commercials he starred in.
<br>
<br>
And that Bill Gates guy might be a tad more famous, though I worry about mentioning this since it seems like flamebait. Also, he's not a CEO anymore.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about Dave Thomas [ wikipedia.org ] ?
Arguably a much more famous CEO considering how many commercials he starred in .
And that Bill Gates guy might be a tad more famous , though I worry about mentioning this since it seems like flamebait .
Also , he 's not a CEO anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about Dave Thomas [wikipedia.org]?
Arguably a much more famous CEO considering how many commercials he starred in.
And that Bill Gates guy might be a tad more famous, though I worry about mentioning this since it seems like flamebait.
Also, he's not a CEO anymore.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28134123</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1243526520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just an attempt to repair his terrible reputation by giving away money he can never spend anyway.  It worked for Carnegie and Rockefeller, men who were truly evil in amassing their fortunes.  Gates is just more self-centered, he wants to get all of the benefit now instead of founding a dynasty like other robber barons.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just an attempt to repair his terrible reputation by giving away money he can never spend anyway .
It worked for Carnegie and Rockefeller , men who were truly evil in amassing their fortunes .
Gates is just more self-centered , he wants to get all of the benefit now instead of founding a dynasty like other robber barons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just an attempt to repair his terrible reputation by giving away money he can never spend anyway.
It worked for Carnegie and Rockefeller, men who were truly evil in amassing their fortunes.
Gates is just more self-centered, he wants to get all of the benefit now instead of founding a dynasty like other robber barons.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124397</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243528560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your hands</i></p><p>Aye, he is someone who understands technology well enough to admit what he doesn't know, as opposed to a fashionable dandy who takes credit for other people's work and expertise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your handsAye , he is someone who understands technology well enough to admit what he does n't know , as opposed to a fashionable dandy who takes credit for other people 's work and expertise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably a fair indication of what kind of leader you have on your handsAye, he is someone who understands technology well enough to admit what he doesn't know, as opposed to a fashionable dandy who takes credit for other people's work and expertise.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28125129</id>
	<title>Re:Really? The *infamous*?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243531740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What a funny post. Translated into other language =&gt; "Water may be essential to life, but what the water lobby doesn't want you to know is that it was also used to keep Hitler alive"</htmltext>
<tokenext>What a funny post .
Translated into other language = &gt; " Water may be essential to life , but what the water lobby does n't want you to know is that it was also used to keep Hitler alive "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a funny post.
Translated into other language =&gt; "Water may be essential to life, but what the water lobby doesn't want you to know is that it was also used to keep Hitler alive"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28126153</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>Jeremy Erwin</author>
	<datestamp>1243535640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The vast majority of Steve Jobs's patents are design patents. Bill Gates's patents are both utility patents. So, it's pretty much a tie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The vast majority of Steve Jobs 's patents are design patents .
Bill Gates 's patents are both utility patents .
So , it 's pretty much a tie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The vast majority of Steve Jobs's patents are design patents.
Bill Gates's patents are both utility patents.
So, it's pretty much a tie.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124637</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>jonbryce</author>
	<datestamp>1243529460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty much all Microsoft's products come from buying up small companies that have the technologies he wants.</p><p>Marketing certainly plays a part, but finding the right companies to buy up in the first place is also a very important skill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty much all Microsoft 's products come from buying up small companies that have the technologies he wants.Marketing certainly plays a part , but finding the right companies to buy up in the first place is also a very important skill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty much all Microsoft's products come from buying up small companies that have the technologies he wants.Marketing certainly plays a part, but finding the right companies to buy up in the first place is also a very important skill.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28130401</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>Lars T.</author>
	<datestamp>1243505940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm not sure about that.  I don't know a lot about Gates' role, but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted, and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so.</p></div><p>So why isn't his name on <i>all</i> Apple patents since he became CEO?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure about that .
I do n't know a lot about Gates ' role , but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted , and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so.So why is n't his name on all Apple patents since he became CEO ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure about that.
I don't know a lot about Gates' role, but Jobs had absolutely nothing to do with almost all of those patents other than being CEO at the time they were submitted, and in most cases having the opportunity to torpedo the invention but choosing not to do so.So why isn't his name on all Apple patents since he became CEO?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28127441</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1243539600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ideas like the lamp iMac, the apple remote design, how the apple store is staffed, software interface look and feel, and more all come from his mind.</p></div><p>The lamp iMac? Wasn't that a widely-mocked flop? At least the flat iMacs (and the original ones, actually) had a reason to exist.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ideas like the lamp iMac , the apple remote design , how the apple store is staffed , software interface look and feel , and more all come from his mind.The lamp iMac ?
Was n't that a widely-mocked flop ?
At least the flat iMacs ( and the original ones , actually ) had a reason to exist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ideas like the lamp iMac, the apple remote design, how the apple store is staffed, software interface look and feel, and more all come from his mind.The lamp iMac?
Wasn't that a widely-mocked flop?
At least the flat iMacs (and the original ones, actually) had a reason to exist.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28124789</id>
	<title>I chose ... Apple.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243530180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which I, Steve Jobs, own.</p><p>So that Apple computer you think is yours - is really mine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which I , Steve Jobs , own.So that Apple computer you think is yours - is really mine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which I, Steve Jobs, own.So that Apple computer you think is yours - is really mine.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_145247.28126587</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Forget the Lanyard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243537020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He is that good.  Every design, even in it;s most basic form, comes before him (or starts with him).  He has very critical input, changes the direction of the deisgn, adds aesthetic charm to it, and has it redesigned at his orders to meet those specifications.</p><p>One of his programmers wrote a personal application for streamlining video editing.  After seeing it, jobs gave him dozens of ideas how to make the app flow better, designed a more aesthetic interface, and commissioned a team to further the application based on his specs and ideas using the programmers initial work as a starting point.  Although the idea was not his, the final product was very much shaped by him, and he was credited in the design of the current iMovie app.</p><p>jobs is not a coder, he's not a system engineer, but he's a design genious, and one of the singular most powerful infuencers of overall system design at Apple.  Ideas like the lamp iMac, the apple remote design, how the apple store is staffed, software interface look and feel, and more all come from his mind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He is that good .
Every design , even in it ; s most basic form , comes before him ( or starts with him ) .
He has very critical input , changes the direction of the deisgn , adds aesthetic charm to it , and has it redesigned at his orders to meet those specifications.One of his programmers wrote a personal application for streamlining video editing .
After seeing it , jobs gave him dozens of ideas how to make the app flow better , designed a more aesthetic interface , and commissioned a team to further the application based on his specs and ideas using the programmers initial work as a starting point .
Although the idea was not his , the final product was very much shaped by him , and he was credited in the design of the current iMovie app.jobs is not a coder , he 's not a system engineer , but he 's a design genious , and one of the singular most powerful infuencers of overall system design at Apple .
Ideas like the lamp iMac , the apple remote design , how the apple store is staffed , software interface look and feel , and more all come from his mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He is that good.
Every design, even in it;s most basic form, comes before him (or starts with him).
He has very critical input, changes the direction of the deisgn, adds aesthetic charm to it, and has it redesigned at his orders to meet those specifications.One of his programmers wrote a personal application for streamlining video editing.
After seeing it, jobs gave him dozens of ideas how to make the app flow better, designed a more aesthetic interface, and commissioned a team to further the application based on his specs and ideas using the programmers initial work as a starting point.
Although the idea was not his, the final product was very much shaped by him, and he was credited in the design of the current iMovie app.jobs is not a coder, he's not a system engineer, but he's a design genious, and one of the singular most powerful infuencers of overall system design at Apple.
Ideas like the lamp iMac, the apple remote design, how the apple store is staffed, software interface look and feel, and more all come from his mind.</sentencetext>
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