<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_05_27_2232237</id>
	<title>Revived LHC Could Run Through the Winter</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1243434720000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Jack Spine writes <i>"When you are powering nuclear particle beams that could drill a hole through 30 metres of copper, you don't want to be paying a premium for electricity. However, Cern scientists are determined that the delayed experiment will get some workable results, and so are preparing to <a href="http://news.zdnet.co.uk/emergingtech/0,1000000183,39656672,00.htm">run the machine throughout the winter</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jack Spine writes " When you are powering nuclear particle beams that could drill a hole through 30 metres of copper , you do n't want to be paying a premium for electricity .
However , Cern scientists are determined that the delayed experiment will get some workable results , and so are preparing to run the machine throughout the winter .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jack Spine writes "When you are powering nuclear particle beams that could drill a hole through 30 metres of copper, you don't want to be paying a premium for electricity.
However, Cern scientists are determined that the delayed experiment will get some workable results, and so are preparing to run the machine throughout the winter.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118777</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243440660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a British article. As such, the writing style is correct.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a British article .
As such , the writing style is correct .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a British article.
As such, the writing style is correct.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118613</id>
	<title>Re:Odd...</title>
	<author>solafide</author>
	<datestamp>1243439220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Switzerland. Weather. Yay.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Switzerland .
Weather. Yay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Switzerland.
Weather. Yay.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28121651</id>
	<title>Re:competition with Fermilab</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1243515180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>that Swiss got most of the EU money</p></div><p>How does that matter? If they build most of the LHC, they get most of the money. Simple, isn't it?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>that Swiss got most of the EU moneyHow does that matter ?
If they build most of the LHC , they get most of the money .
Simple , is n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that Swiss got most of the EU moneyHow does that matter?
If they build most of the LHC, they get most of the money.
Simple, isn't it?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28120423</id>
	<title>Re:Odd...</title>
	<author>iDuck</author>
	<datestamp>1243502460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes - although I'm sure that CERN being run throughout this winter is pretty old news. I definitely came across this several months ago.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes - although I 'm sure that CERN being run throughout this winter is pretty old news .
I definitely came across this several months ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes - although I'm sure that CERN being run throughout this winter is pretty old news.
I definitely came across this several months ago.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28120287</id>
	<title>Re:"Laser"</title>
	<author>Lord Crc</author>
	<datestamp>1243543980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read some while ago that the LHC was the first particle accelerator powerful enough to basically destroy itself if the beam was dumped directly into the walls.</p><p>The energy stored in the entire beam <a href="http://lhc-machine-outreach.web.cern.ch/lhc-machine-outreach/components/beam-dump.htm" title="web.cern.ch">will be</a> [web.cern.ch] around 350MJ, which, if I did the conversion correctly, is equivalent to about 83kg TNT. Of course it won't be able to dump all of it in an instant (at least not in the same location), but I imagine it could still be quite destructive if it fails.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read some while ago that the LHC was the first particle accelerator powerful enough to basically destroy itself if the beam was dumped directly into the walls.The energy stored in the entire beam will be [ web.cern.ch ] around 350MJ , which , if I did the conversion correctly , is equivalent to about 83kg TNT .
Of course it wo n't be able to dump all of it in an instant ( at least not in the same location ) , but I imagine it could still be quite destructive if it fails .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read some while ago that the LHC was the first particle accelerator powerful enough to basically destroy itself if the beam was dumped directly into the walls.The energy stored in the entire beam will be [web.cern.ch] around 350MJ, which, if I did the conversion correctly, is equivalent to about 83kg TNT.
Of course it won't be able to dump all of it in an instant (at least not in the same location), but I imagine it could still be quite destructive if it fails.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118817</id>
	<title>Great!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243441080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let's get this show on the road! Then we can start flinging some of those black holes at North Korea!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's get this show on the road !
Then we can start flinging some of those black holes at North Korea !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's get this show on the road!
Then we can start flinging some of those black holes at North Korea!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118579</id>
	<title>LHC Could Run Through the Winter ...</title>
	<author>SupremoMan</author>
	<datestamp>1243438920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or till Earth is destroyed. Whichever comes first...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or till Earth is destroyed .
Whichever comes first.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or till Earth is destroyed.
Whichever comes first...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119665</id>
	<title>Re:Odd...</title>
	<author>Werthless5</author>
	<datestamp>1243450020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, that's standard.  Electricity costs are enormous there in the winter, and most personnel want to go on vacation anyway, so they shut down most of the buildings and stop any experiments.</p><p>This year is an exception</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , that 's standard .
Electricity costs are enormous there in the winter , and most personnel want to go on vacation anyway , so they shut down most of the buildings and stop any experiments.This year is an exception</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, that's standard.
Electricity costs are enormous there in the winter, and most personnel want to go on vacation anyway, so they shut down most of the buildings and stop any experiments.This year is an exception</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119769</id>
	<title>Stop!</title>
	<author>Greyfox</author>
	<datestamp>1243450800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... You... You had me at "Nuclear Particle Beams!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>... You... You had me at " Nuclear Particle Beams !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... You... You had me at "Nuclear Particle Beams!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118879</id>
	<title>Lexx</title>
	<author>nellahj</author>
	<datestamp>1243441680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"It's a Type 13 planet, it's in its final stages, it's infected with some kind of alien - we are going to leave...."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" It 's a Type 13 planet , it 's in its final stages , it 's infected with some kind of alien - we are going to leave.... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It's a Type 13 planet, it's in its final stages, it's infected with some kind of alien - we are going to leave...."</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118681</id>
	<title>Re:How they''ll be paying for it...</title>
	<author>illumastorm</author>
	<datestamp>1243439640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why ask for 1 trillion when we can ask for 1 billion?  *raises pinky*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ask for 1 trillion when we can ask for 1 billion ?
* raises pinky *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why ask for 1 trillion when we can ask for 1 billion?
*raises pinky*</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118539</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118659</id>
	<title>heh heh</title>
	<author>The End Of Days</author>
	<datestamp>1243439520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a tag</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a tag</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a tag</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28120015</id>
	<title>Re:competition with Fermilab</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243540860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah yes, the source of that story being Fermilab themselves. Who totally aren't going to be biased in any way, shape or form.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes , the source of that story being Fermilab themselves .
Who totally are n't going to be biased in any way , shape or form .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes, the source of that story being Fermilab themselves.
Who totally aren't going to be biased in any way, shape or form.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119445</id>
	<title>Re:So what will cause the delay next time?</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1243447800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I do recall a paper suggesting that the experiment itself will interfere with itself back through time and prevent the machine from ever powering up. I can't find the paper on Google though, I really need to read it it'll help me figure out why the time machine I'm building doesn't work.</p></div></blockquote><p>You didn't want me to tell you this, but you found it, built the machine, and caused a disaster, then went back and made it so you wouldn't find the paper.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do recall a paper suggesting that the experiment itself will interfere with itself back through time and prevent the machine from ever powering up .
I ca n't find the paper on Google though , I really need to read it it 'll help me figure out why the time machine I 'm building does n't work.You did n't want me to tell you this , but you found it , built the machine , and caused a disaster , then went back and made it so you would n't find the paper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do recall a paper suggesting that the experiment itself will interfere with itself back through time and prevent the machine from ever powering up.
I can't find the paper on Google though, I really need to read it it'll help me figure out why the time machine I'm building doesn't work.You didn't want me to tell you this, but you found it, built the machine, and caused a disaster, then went back and made it so you wouldn't find the paper.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118821</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118555</id>
	<title>I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243438740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cern should be CERN, as it stands for "Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cern should be CERN , as it stands for " Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cern should be CERN, as it stands for "Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119575</id>
	<title>British capitalization of acronyms</title>
	<author>Jim Efaw</author>
	<datestamp>1243449120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This has been <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1138947&amp;cid=26968905" title="slashdot.org">discussed previously on Slashdot</a> [slashdot.org].  British writing often uses only initial-caps for pronounceable acronyms.  The BBC is especially aggressive about this, resulting in things like "Nasa", which looks like a foreign name at first glance from an American eye.  Why the BBC differentiates "BAFTA" from "NASA" in their style guide is a mystery to me; however, in recent BBC articles, it appears that the BBC is writing "Bafta" in actual practice.</p><p>BBC House Style and Writing Guidelines, September 2007 (<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/branding/pdf/writing\_style\_guidelines\_sep07.pdf" title="bbc.co.uk">in PDF</a> [bbc.co.uk] or <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/branding/text/writing\_style\_guidelines\_sep07.html" title="bbc.co.uk">raw HTML</a> [bbc.co.uk]):</p><blockquote><div><p>"Usually, if an acronym is pronounced as a word, use an initial capital only. If it is pronounced as individual letters, use all capitals:
</p><ul> <li>Aids Nato Acas Unicef</li><li>BBC CD GCSE PC</li><li>CD-Rom (pronounced partly as letters, partly as a word)</li></ul><p>
But follow the preference of organisations with their own names and brands: DfES BAFTA MORI RADA</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This has been discussed previously on Slashdot [ slashdot.org ] .
British writing often uses only initial-caps for pronounceable acronyms .
The BBC is especially aggressive about this , resulting in things like " Nasa " , which looks like a foreign name at first glance from an American eye .
Why the BBC differentiates " BAFTA " from " NASA " in their style guide is a mystery to me ; however , in recent BBC articles , it appears that the BBC is writing " Bafta " in actual practice.BBC House Style and Writing Guidelines , September 2007 ( in PDF [ bbc.co.uk ] or raw HTML [ bbc.co.uk ] ) : " Usually , if an acronym is pronounced as a word , use an initial capital only .
If it is pronounced as individual letters , use all capitals : Aids Nato Acas UnicefBBC CD GCSE PCCD-Rom ( pronounced partly as letters , partly as a word ) But follow the preference of organisations with their own names and brands : DfES BAFTA MORI RADA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has been discussed previously on Slashdot [slashdot.org].
British writing often uses only initial-caps for pronounceable acronyms.
The BBC is especially aggressive about this, resulting in things like "Nasa", which looks like a foreign name at first glance from an American eye.
Why the BBC differentiates "BAFTA" from "NASA" in their style guide is a mystery to me; however, in recent BBC articles, it appears that the BBC is writing "Bafta" in actual practice.BBC House Style and Writing Guidelines, September 2007 (in PDF [bbc.co.uk] or raw HTML [bbc.co.uk]):"Usually, if an acronym is pronounced as a word, use an initial capital only.
If it is pronounced as individual letters, use all capitals:
 Aids Nato Acas UnicefBBC CD GCSE PCCD-Rom (pronounced partly as letters, partly as a word)
But follow the preference of organisations with their own names and brands: DfES BAFTA MORI RADA
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118887</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>nebaz</author>
	<datestamp>1243441800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CEPLARN (Conseil Europeen Pour LA Recherche Nucleaire) would be a cooler name, it sounds vaguely Klingon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CEPLARN ( Conseil Europeen Pour LA Recherche Nucleaire ) would be a cooler name , it sounds vaguely Klingon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CEPLARN (Conseil Europeen Pour LA Recherche Nucleaire) would be a cooler name, it sounds vaguely Klingon.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118555</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28121615</id>
	<title>Eveything can drill trough 30m of copper.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1243514700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You just have to give it the time.</p><p>Without a value of time, that statement is useless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You just have to give it the time.Without a value of time , that statement is useless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You just have to give it the time.Without a value of time, that statement is useless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119959</id>
	<title>So soon?</title>
	<author>dword</author>
	<datestamp>1243453560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's see how <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke\_Nukem\_Forever#3D\_Realms\_possible\_shutdown\_May\_2009\_.28disproven.29" title="wikipedia.org">Duke Nukem Forever</a> [wikipedia.org] does first...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see how Duke Nukem Forever [ wikipedia.org ] does first.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see how Duke Nukem Forever [wikipedia.org] does first...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28123649</id>
	<title>Sounds like a crappy day...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243525320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FTFA:</p><p>"This caused an electrical arc, which punctured the cavity containing liquid helium used to supercool both the experiment and the magnets which direct and focus the particle beams."</p><p>Yeah... I hate it when that happens.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FTFA : " This caused an electrical arc , which punctured the cavity containing liquid helium used to supercool both the experiment and the magnets which direct and focus the particle beams. " Yeah.. .
I hate it when that happens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTFA:"This caused an electrical arc, which punctured the cavity containing liquid helium used to supercool both the experiment and the magnets which direct and focus the particle beams."Yeah...
I hate it when that happens.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28121401</id>
	<title>Re:LHC Could Run Through the Winter ...</title>
	<author>professionalfurryele</author>
	<datestamp>1243512360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doing a quick back of the envelope calculation I get the decay time for something the mass of the Earth (6 x 10^24 kg) at 5 x 10^50 years. The universe is only billions (10^9) of years old so this is considerably longer than the age of the universe.</p><p>A black hole the mass of a carbon atom on the other hand (3 x 10^-26 kg) I get 2 x 10^-93 s. What meaning can be attributed to this result is unclear since this is far shorter than the Planck time.</p><p>In short a Earth sized black hole is going to be around for a long time. However even a black hole the size of a flea would evaporate near instantly unless something exists to stabilise it. The reason for this rapid variation in time scales is because the lifetime of a black hole goes as the cube of the mass, which is a very fast varying function.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Doing a quick back of the envelope calculation I get the decay time for something the mass of the Earth ( 6 x 10 ^ 24 kg ) at 5 x 10 ^ 50 years .
The universe is only billions ( 10 ^ 9 ) of years old so this is considerably longer than the age of the universe.A black hole the mass of a carbon atom on the other hand ( 3 x 10 ^ -26 kg ) I get 2 x 10 ^ -93 s. What meaning can be attributed to this result is unclear since this is far shorter than the Planck time.In short a Earth sized black hole is going to be around for a long time .
However even a black hole the size of a flea would evaporate near instantly unless something exists to stabilise it .
The reason for this rapid variation in time scales is because the lifetime of a black hole goes as the cube of the mass , which is a very fast varying function .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doing a quick back of the envelope calculation I get the decay time for something the mass of the Earth (6 x 10^24 kg) at 5 x 10^50 years.
The universe is only billions (10^9) of years old so this is considerably longer than the age of the universe.A black hole the mass of a carbon atom on the other hand (3 x 10^-26 kg) I get 2 x 10^-93 s. What meaning can be attributed to this result is unclear since this is far shorter than the Planck time.In short a Earth sized black hole is going to be around for a long time.
However even a black hole the size of a flea would evaporate near instantly unless something exists to stabilise it.
The reason for this rapid variation in time scales is because the lifetime of a black hole goes as the cube of the mass, which is a very fast varying function.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118945</id>
	<title>Re:LHC Could Run Through the Winter ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243442400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So I asked my dad the other day how long would it take a black hole consisting of just all the baryonic matter making up this planet to evaporate.</p><p>As with most of my "stupid" questions he rolled his eyes and spouted something extremely disparaging.  Does anyone on slashdot know?  Is there a public relations contact at Cern we can work through to find the answer?</p><p>I also have a blackhole physics question I don't quite understand.  Due to lorentz effects time to an outside observer appears to slow as an object gets sucked closer and closer into a black hole.  Obviously blackholes don't have infinite lifetimes due to their constant spewing of hawking radiation...  How can any matter actually be "fully" injested by a blackhole while it is still actually a blackhole??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So I asked my dad the other day how long would it take a black hole consisting of just all the baryonic matter making up this planet to evaporate.As with most of my " stupid " questions he rolled his eyes and spouted something extremely disparaging .
Does anyone on slashdot know ?
Is there a public relations contact at Cern we can work through to find the answer ? I also have a blackhole physics question I do n't quite understand .
Due to lorentz effects time to an outside observer appears to slow as an object gets sucked closer and closer into a black hole .
Obviously blackholes do n't have infinite lifetimes due to their constant spewing of hawking radiation... How can any matter actually be " fully " injested by a blackhole while it is still actually a blackhole ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I asked my dad the other day how long would it take a black hole consisting of just all the baryonic matter making up this planet to evaporate.As with most of my "stupid" questions he rolled his eyes and spouted something extremely disparaging.
Does anyone on slashdot know?
Is there a public relations contact at Cern we can work through to find the answer?I also have a blackhole physics question I don't quite understand.
Due to lorentz effects time to an outside observer appears to slow as an object gets sucked closer and closer into a black hole.
Obviously blackholes don't have infinite lifetimes due to their constant spewing of hawking radiation...  How can any matter actually be "fully" injested by a blackhole while it is still actually a blackhole?
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119847</id>
	<title>Re:LHC Could Run Through the Winter ...</title>
	<author>Zapo\_Verde</author>
	<datestamp>1243451700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/" title="hasthelarg...rldyet.com" rel="nofollow">http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/</a> [hasthelarg...rldyet.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ [ hasthelarg...rldyet.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ [hasthelarg...rldyet.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118997</id>
	<title>Re:LHC Could Run Through the Winter ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243443180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here is some bad news in that regard:<br>
They've spotted Gordon Freeman running around the LHC.<br>
<a href="http://skipsjunk.net/linked-pics/LHC\_Gordon-Freeman\_2.JPG" title="skipsjunk.net">http://skipsjunk.net/linked-pics/LHC\_Gordon-Freeman\_2.JPG</a> [skipsjunk.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here is some bad news in that regard : They 've spotted Gordon Freeman running around the LHC .
http : //skipsjunk.net/linked-pics/LHC \ _Gordon-Freeman \ _2.JPG [ skipsjunk.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here is some bad news in that regard:
They've spotted Gordon Freeman running around the LHC.
http://skipsjunk.net/linked-pics/LHC\_Gordon-Freeman\_2.JPG [skipsjunk.net]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119659</id>
	<title>Re:Odd...</title>
	<author>ElectricRook</author>
	<datestamp>1243450020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That thing costs how many billions, and they shut it down because of higher electricity rates?</p><p>I thought it would have its own power generators.</p><p>What's the total cost of ownership compared to the cost of power?</p><p>I guess they don't have the concept of "the cost of lost opportunity"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That thing costs how many billions , and they shut it down because of higher electricity rates ? I thought it would have its own power generators.What 's the total cost of ownership compared to the cost of power ? I guess they do n't have the concept of " the cost of lost opportunity "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That thing costs how many billions, and they shut it down because of higher electricity rates?I thought it would have its own power generators.What's the total cost of ownership compared to the cost of power?I guess they don't have the concept of "the cost of lost opportunity"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119813</id>
	<title>Re:So what will cause the delay next time?</title>
	<author>NthDegree256</author>
	<datestamp>1243451280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The closest thing I recall hearing was the suggestion that if, a few decades from now, the LHC has still yet to be successfully turned on, we should assume that Many Worlds is true, we're in one of the lucky universes, and we'd better stop trying right away.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The closest thing I recall hearing was the suggestion that if , a few decades from now , the LHC has still yet to be successfully turned on , we should assume that Many Worlds is true , we 're in one of the lucky universes , and we 'd better stop trying right away .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The closest thing I recall hearing was the suggestion that if, a few decades from now, the LHC has still yet to be successfully turned on, we should assume that Many Worlds is true, we're in one of the lucky universes, and we'd better stop trying right away.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119477</id>
	<title>Re:competition with Fermilab</title>
	<author>mindcorrosive</author>
	<datestamp>1243448160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>scooped on its single most important reason for existing.</p></div><p>Not if you take into account the amount of research and project work conducted in CERN that is applicable in other areas - think superconductors, electronics, computing clusters, data processing and storage, etc.
<br>
You can compare it to Asimov's Foundation in a matter of speaking - the final goal is overshadowed by the implications of the intermediate work towards reaching it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>scooped on its single most important reason for existing.Not if you take into account the amount of research and project work conducted in CERN that is applicable in other areas - think superconductors , electronics , computing clusters , data processing and storage , etc .
You can compare it to Asimov 's Foundation in a matter of speaking - the final goal is overshadowed by the implications of the intermediate work towards reaching it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>scooped on its single most important reason for existing.Not if you take into account the amount of research and project work conducted in CERN that is applicable in other areas - think superconductors, electronics, computing clusters, data processing and storage, etc.
You can compare it to Asimov's Foundation in a matter of speaking - the final goal is overshadowed by the implications of the intermediate work towards reaching it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28121151</id>
	<title>Re:Odd...</title>
	<author>FTWinston</author>
	<datestamp>1243509540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, that was always the plan. Because its colder then, electricity costs for all that supercooling are higher.

Oh.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , that was always the plan .
Because its colder then , electricity costs for all that supercooling are higher .
Oh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, that was always the plan.
Because its colder then, electricity costs for all that supercooling are higher.
Oh.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28122205</id>
	<title>Re:but I have to ride my bike to work...</title>
	<author>RiotingPacifist</author>
	<datestamp>1243518480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nuclear power, it works bitches!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nuclear power , it works bitches ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nuclear power, it works bitches!!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119439</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243447740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's an example of a British style guide: http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide/a<br>See under "abbreviations and acronyms". Hence, <i>not</i> universal practice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's an example of a British style guide : http : //www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide/aSee under " abbreviations and acronyms " .
Hence , not universal practice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's an example of a British style guide: http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide/aSee under "abbreviations and acronyms".
Hence, not universal practice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28123375</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1243524060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess they are routinelly too close to Cthulhu. Or habe large Mayan ancestry...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess they are routinelly too close to Cthulhu .
Or habe large Mayan ancestry.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess they are routinelly too close to Cthulhu.
Or habe large Mayan ancestry...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118967</id>
	<title>Live LHC Webcam</title>
	<author>viyh</author>
	<datestamp>1243442700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Check it out! Trust me, it's awesome:

<a href="http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html" title="cyriak.co.uk">http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html</a> [cyriak.co.uk]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Check it out !
Trust me , it 's awesome : http : //www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html [ cyriak.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check it out!
Trust me, it's awesome:

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html [cyriak.co.uk]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28121049</id>
	<title>I nitpick your nitpick</title>
	<author>Attila the Bun</author>
	<datestamp>1243508580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Cern should be CERN, as it stands for "Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire"</p></div><p>Actually it doesn't.
The Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire was a provisional body created in 1952, and no longer exists.
In 1954 the European Laboratory for Particle Physics was founded, and the C.E.R.N. was dissolved.  The laboratory is named CERN, and although it is conventionally capitalised, it is not an acronym.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cern should be CERN , as it stands for " Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire " Actually it does n't .
The Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire was a provisional body created in 1952 , and no longer exists .
In 1954 the European Laboratory for Particle Physics was founded , and the C.E.R.N .
was dissolved .
The laboratory is named CERN , and although it is conventionally capitalised , it is not an acronym .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cern should be CERN, as it stands for "Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire"Actually it doesn't.
The Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire was a provisional body created in 1952, and no longer exists.
In 1954 the European Laboratory for Particle Physics was founded, and the C.E.R.N.
was dissolved.
The laboratory is named CERN, and although it is conventionally capitalised, it is not an acronym.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28121535</id>
	<title>Re:competition with Fermilab</title>
	<author>RiotingPacifist</author>
	<datestamp>1243513980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right!..because nobody would want to confirm that? And there is absolutely no point verifying the theory at higher energies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right ! ..because nobody would want to confirm that ?
And there is absolutely no point verifying the theory at higher energies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right!..because nobody would want to confirm that?
And there is absolutely no point verifying the theory at higher energies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28135613</id>
	<title>Re:competition with Fermilab</title>
	<author>drsquare</author>
	<datestamp>1243628100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Switzerland is a member of CERN you tit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Switzerland is a member of CERN you tit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Switzerland is a member of CERN you tit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118943</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243442400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, the British follow the universal practice of properly capitalizing acronyms.  The literate ones do anyways.</p><p>As such, no the writing style is not correct.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the British follow the universal practice of properly capitalizing acronyms .
The literate ones do anyways.As such , no the writing style is not correct .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the British follow the universal practice of properly capitalizing acronyms.
The literate ones do anyways.As such, no the writing style is not correct.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119059</id>
	<title>competition with Fermilab</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243443780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This may have to do with the fact that <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7893689.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">Fermilab could find the Higgs particle very soon</a> [bbc.co.uk], and then the LHC would have been scooped on its single most important reason for existing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This may have to do with the fact that Fermilab could find the Higgs particle very soon [ bbc.co.uk ] , and then the LHC would have been scooped on its single most important reason for existing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This may have to do with the fact that Fermilab could find the Higgs particle very soon [bbc.co.uk], and then the LHC would have been scooped on its single most important reason for existing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28126171</id>
	<title>Re:LHC Could Run Through the Winter ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243535640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is a non-issue. Reddit has armed Freeman, and he is ready.</p><p>http://picasaweb.google.com/reddit/GordonFreemanCERNAndAWreckingBar?authkey=bqut7SFV-Cc#</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a non-issue .
Reddit has armed Freeman , and he is ready.http : //picasaweb.google.com/reddit/GordonFreemanCERNAndAWreckingBar ? authkey = bqut7SFV-Cc #</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a non-issue.
Reddit has armed Freeman, and he is ready.http://picasaweb.google.com/reddit/GordonFreemanCERNAndAWreckingBar?authkey=bqut7SFV-Cc#</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118539</id>
	<title>How they''ll be paying for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243438560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"President Obama, pay us $1 trillion dollars, or we create a blackhole and destroy the world."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" President Obama , pay us $ 1 trillion dollars , or we create a blackhole and destroy the world .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"President Obama, pay us $1 trillion dollars, or we create a blackhole and destroy the world.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118821</id>
	<title>So what will cause the delay next time?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243441140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I do recall a paper suggesting that the experiment itself will interfere with itself back through time and prevent the machine from ever powering up.
<br> <br>
I can't find the paper on Google though, I really need to read it it'll help me figure out why the time machine I'm building doesn't work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do recall a paper suggesting that the experiment itself will interfere with itself back through time and prevent the machine from ever powering up .
I ca n't find the paper on Google though , I really need to read it it 'll help me figure out why the time machine I 'm building does n't work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do recall a paper suggesting that the experiment itself will interfere with itself back through time and prevent the machine from ever powering up.
I can't find the paper on Google though, I really need to read it it'll help me figure out why the time machine I'm building doesn't work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118771</id>
	<title>"Laser"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243440600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do they mean fire some teeny tiny particles 30m into copper, or blow a giant 30m crater in an enormous ingot of copper? Cos it kinda sounds like the second one in the article.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do they mean fire some teeny tiny particles 30m into copper , or blow a giant 30m crater in an enormous ingot of copper ?
Cos it kinda sounds like the second one in the article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do they mean fire some teeny tiny particles 30m into copper, or blow a giant 30m crater in an enormous ingot of copper?
Cos it kinda sounds like the second one in the article.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28120001</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243454220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Cern should be CERN, as it stands for "Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire"</p></div><p>The source is British, and in their style guide, acronyms that you pronounce as a continuous word (like Cern or Nasa) are cased that way. Acronyms that you spell out (like LHC) are upper-case.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cern should be CERN , as it stands for " Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire " The source is British , and in their style guide , acronyms that you pronounce as a continuous word ( like Cern or Nasa ) are cased that way .
Acronyms that you spell out ( like LHC ) are upper-case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cern should be CERN, as it stands for "Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire"The source is British, and in their style guide, acronyms that you pronounce as a continuous word (like Cern or Nasa) are cased that way.
Acronyms that you spell out (like LHC) are upper-case.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28122003</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>Eevee</author>
	<datestamp>1243517220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>Actually, the British follow the universal practice of properly capitalizing acronyms.</i> </p><p>It's not very universal if others have different rules. In particular, many American publications use <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small\_caps" title="wikipedia.org">small caps</a> [wikipedia.org] for acronyms such as NASA or CERN.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the British follow the universal practice of properly capitalizing acronyms .
It 's not very universal if others have different rules .
In particular , many American publications use small caps [ wikipedia.org ] for acronyms such as NASA or CERN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Actually, the British follow the universal practice of properly capitalizing acronyms.
It's not very universal if others have different rules.
In particular, many American publications use small caps [wikipedia.org] for acronyms such as NASA or CERN.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119709</id>
	<title>Well it's winter right now!</title>
	<author>WSOGMM</author>
	<datestamp>1243450380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...in New Zealand.  May I ask why they aren't firing  up the machine right now?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...in New Zealand .
May I ask why they are n't firing up the machine right now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...in New Zealand.
May I ask why they aren't firing  up the machine right now?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119255</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243446120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It's a British article. As such, the writing style is correct.</p></div></blockquote><p>No, as such, the writing style is British.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a British article .
As such , the writing style is correct.No , as such , the writing style is British .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a British article.
As such, the writing style is correct.No, as such, the writing style is British.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118563</id>
	<title>Odd...</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1243438800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They were normally going to be closed during the winter?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They were normally going to be closed during the winter ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They were normally going to be closed during the winter?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28120465</id>
	<title>Re:Odd...</title>
	<author>hughk</author>
	<datestamp>1243502760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am currently working in IT at the trading arm of a major European energy supplier. Large variations in seasonal power demands are normal. Major consumers often attempt to hedge their consumption on the market (they may also link to the weather indices as one element is clearly ambient temperature).</p><p>Normally, reserves have to be used over the winter peaks. One of Cern's suppliers, EDF uses a lot of nuclear but that tends to run at a fairly constant rate. Power tends to get balanced by the use of hydroelectric systems (paired reservoirs coupled through pump/generators) but these tend to be good for hours at best. There are higher-cost emergency power systems based on things like gas which can come on line in minutes. Anyway, normally Cern would close for maintenance over winter but one of the side effects of the depression and with factories working at lower capacity is, of course, cheaper electricity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am currently working in IT at the trading arm of a major European energy supplier .
Large variations in seasonal power demands are normal .
Major consumers often attempt to hedge their consumption on the market ( they may also link to the weather indices as one element is clearly ambient temperature ) .Normally , reserves have to be used over the winter peaks .
One of Cern 's suppliers , EDF uses a lot of nuclear but that tends to run at a fairly constant rate .
Power tends to get balanced by the use of hydroelectric systems ( paired reservoirs coupled through pump/generators ) but these tend to be good for hours at best .
There are higher-cost emergency power systems based on things like gas which can come on line in minutes .
Anyway , normally Cern would close for maintenance over winter but one of the side effects of the depression and with factories working at lower capacity is , of course , cheaper electricity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am currently working in IT at the trading arm of a major European energy supplier.
Large variations in seasonal power demands are normal.
Major consumers often attempt to hedge their consumption on the market (they may also link to the weather indices as one element is clearly ambient temperature).Normally, reserves have to be used over the winter peaks.
One of Cern's suppliers, EDF uses a lot of nuclear but that tends to run at a fairly constant rate.
Power tends to get balanced by the use of hydroelectric systems (paired reservoirs coupled through pump/generators) but these tend to be good for hours at best.
There are higher-cost emergency power systems based on things like gas which can come on line in minutes.
Anyway, normally Cern would close for maintenance over winter but one of the side effects of the depression and with factories working at lower capacity is, of course, cheaper electricity.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118563</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28121293</id>
	<title>And why not Bbc?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243510980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The capitalisation of Aids is because it has now become a real word in its own right in common usage. Technically, AIDS is a spectrum of disorders of the immune system of which one is the Aids that is thought of generally as AIDS.</p><p>Though this isn't actually much use, since there are Marital Aids which is not the same thing AT ALL.</p><p>I've heard...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The capitalisation of Aids is because it has now become a real word in its own right in common usage .
Technically , AIDS is a spectrum of disorders of the immune system of which one is the Aids that is thought of generally as AIDS.Though this is n't actually much use , since there are Marital Aids which is not the same thing AT ALL.I 've heard.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The capitalisation of Aids is because it has now become a real word in its own right in common usage.
Technically, AIDS is a spectrum of disorders of the immune system of which one is the Aids that is thought of generally as AIDS.Though this isn't actually much use, since there are Marital Aids which is not the same thing AT ALL.I've heard...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119575</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28133283</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243520220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you still write LASER and RADAR? Acronyms being converted to normal words in this way is nothing new.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you still write LASER and RADAR ?
Acronyms being converted to normal words in this way is nothing new .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you still write LASER and RADAR?
Acronyms being converted to normal words in this way is nothing new.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28120113</id>
	<title>No, it's not</title>
	<author>Late Adopter</author>
	<datestamp>1243541940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A Fermilab discovery would actually be nice, because then it gives us somewhere in particular to look and focus our analyses.  Whatever happens, the LHC *will* have the better data eventually.
<br> <br>
Not to mention, the LHC can still take a good stab at solving the hierarchy problem by finding new particles at the TeV scale.
<br> <br>
The real reason, at least as I see it reasoned by those around me, is to give the graduate students and post-docs a chance to finish their jobs in a *reasonable* timescale and move on.  There's people who have been here for 6 years already waiting for startup, which is the average Physics PhD duration as it is.  If collisions were delayed again, imagine all those people AND their advisers and bosses screaming to upper management.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A Fermilab discovery would actually be nice , because then it gives us somewhere in particular to look and focus our analyses .
Whatever happens , the LHC * will * have the better data eventually .
Not to mention , the LHC can still take a good stab at solving the hierarchy problem by finding new particles at the TeV scale .
The real reason , at least as I see it reasoned by those around me , is to give the graduate students and post-docs a chance to finish their jobs in a * reasonable * timescale and move on .
There 's people who have been here for 6 years already waiting for startup , which is the average Physics PhD duration as it is .
If collisions were delayed again , imagine all those people AND their advisers and bosses screaming to upper management .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Fermilab discovery would actually be nice, because then it gives us somewhere in particular to look and focus our analyses.
Whatever happens, the LHC *will* have the better data eventually.
Not to mention, the LHC can still take a good stab at solving the hierarchy problem by finding new particles at the TeV scale.
The real reason, at least as I see it reasoned by those around me, is to give the graduate students and post-docs a chance to finish their jobs in a *reasonable* timescale and move on.
There's people who have been here for 6 years already waiting for startup, which is the average Physics PhD duration as it is.
If collisions were delayed again, imagine all those people AND their advisers and bosses screaming to upper management.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119047</id>
	<title>Thrice Upon A Time</title>
	<author>arthurpaliden</author>
	<datestamp>1243443660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Great book. Must get a new copy. Mine died years ago.  Atleast in this time line.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Great book .
Must get a new copy .
Mine died years ago .
Atleast in this time line.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great book.
Must get a new copy.
Mine died years ago.
Atleast in this time line.....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118821</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119645</id>
	<title>We announced this over 6 months ago</title>
	<author>Werthless5</author>
	<datestamp>1243449900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it a slow news day or what?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it a slow news day or what ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it a slow news day or what?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28121707</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1243515600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read that as FATSOSTRAGICRAPRHUBARBWITHTUPAC. So the NAVY killed them! Who would have known...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read that as FATSOSTRAGICRAPRHUBARBWITHTUPAC .
So the NAVY killed them !
Who would have known.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read that as FATSOSTRAGICRAPRHUBARBWITHTUPAC.
So the NAVY killed them!
Who would have known...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119103</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119351</id>
	<title>Re:competition with Fermilab</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243446840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>single most important reason for existing
</i> <br> <br>
LHC already accomplished all its main goals. Scooping billions of Euros for firms and contractors that are already very happy with the 'results'. Local news here in Europe are full of crazy stories of overpriced deliveries. The funniest part of this is that Swiss got most of the EU money and it is not even a EU member state. So much for the glory of this kind of borderline science, while stem cell and other critical research are stalled or left underfunded. Now Fermilab could only prove that LHC created a blackhole, in financial terms, thats for sure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>single most important reason for existing LHC already accomplished all its main goals .
Scooping billions of Euros for firms and contractors that are already very happy with the 'results' .
Local news here in Europe are full of crazy stories of overpriced deliveries .
The funniest part of this is that Swiss got most of the EU money and it is not even a EU member state .
So much for the glory of this kind of borderline science , while stem cell and other critical research are stalled or left underfunded .
Now Fermilab could only prove that LHC created a blackhole , in financial terms , thats for sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>single most important reason for existing
  
LHC already accomplished all its main goals.
Scooping billions of Euros for firms and contractors that are already very happy with the 'results'.
Local news here in Europe are full of crazy stories of overpriced deliveries.
The funniest part of this is that Swiss got most of the EU money and it is not even a EU member state.
So much for the glory of this kind of borderline science, while stem cell and other critical research are stalled or left underfunded.
Now Fermilab could only prove that LHC created a blackhole, in financial terms, thats for sure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28120857</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243506720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>FASOTRAGRABRUPAC</p></div><p>It stands for: Fleet aviation specialized operatonal training group pacific</p><p>Don't ask me why I decided to look it up...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FASOTRAGRABRUPACIt stands for : Fleet aviation specialized operatonal training group pacificDo n't ask me why I decided to look it up.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FASOTRAGRABRUPACIt stands for: Fleet aviation specialized operatonal training group pacificDon't ask me why I decided to look it up...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119103</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28127621</id>
	<title>what if they accidentally make some "red matter"?</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1243540020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was relieved last year when I found they couldnt make a black hole.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was relieved last year when I found they couldnt make a black hole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was relieved last year when I found they couldnt make a black hole.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28120425</id>
	<title>Re:LHC Could Run Through the Winter ...</title>
	<author>Kratisto</author>
	<datestamp>1243502520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Beware of unforeseen consequences!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Beware of unforeseen consequences !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Beware of unforeseen consequences!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118997</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28120621</id>
	<title>Re:Well it's winter right now!</title>
	<author>qc\_dk</author>
	<datestamp>1243504440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>because there are many ways to determine if it is winter, but the most reliable is looking for polar bears.<br>If you see one it's winter.</p><p>Do you see one?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>because there are many ways to determine if it is winter , but the most reliable is looking for polar bears.If you see one it 's winter.Do you see one ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>because there are many ways to determine if it is winter, but the most reliable is looking for polar bears.If you see one it's winter.Do you see one?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119709</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119809</id>
	<title>but I have to ride my bike to work...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243451280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>or I'm some sort of jerk destroying the planet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>or I 'm some sort of jerk destroying the planet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or I'm some sort of jerk destroying the planet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28120649</id>
	<title>Re:competition with Fermilab</title>
	<author>hughk</author>
	<datestamp>1243504620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cern is not EU, a bit like ESA there are some connections but it gets funds independently from all participants (who don't really even have to be European). and the contracts are awarded roughly according to the buy-in from your host country. The big stuff tends for practical reasons be limited to France and Switzerland but other countries can provide smaller assemblies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cern is not EU , a bit like ESA there are some connections but it gets funds independently from all participants ( who do n't really even have to be European ) .
and the contracts are awarded roughly according to the buy-in from your host country .
The big stuff tends for practical reasons be limited to France and Switzerland but other countries can provide smaller assemblies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cern is not EU, a bit like ESA there are some connections but it gets funds independently from all participants (who don't really even have to be European).
and the contracts are awarded roughly according to the buy-in from your host country.
The big stuff tends for practical reasons be limited to France and Switzerland but other countries can provide smaller assemblies.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119351</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28121333</id>
	<title>No opportunity cost is lost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243511400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you have produced EXABYTES of data, you need time to go through and work out what you have. This can take months. And if you are getting more data during that time</p><p>a) You'll never catch up (a la San Fran Bridge paint job)<br>b) You'll not know what to change to look for next (informed by what you're seeing in the data so far)</p><p>so no opportunity cost is lost.</p><p>At the moment, though there's not a winter's worth of analysis data volume created. So that would be an opportunity cost and guess what? They're running over the winter, like you said they should.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you have produced EXABYTES of data , you need time to go through and work out what you have .
This can take months .
And if you are getting more data during that timea ) You 'll never catch up ( a la San Fran Bridge paint job ) b ) You 'll not know what to change to look for next ( informed by what you 're seeing in the data so far ) so no opportunity cost is lost.At the moment , though there 's not a winter 's worth of analysis data volume created .
So that would be an opportunity cost and guess what ?
They 're running over the winter , like you said they should .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you have produced EXABYTES of data, you need time to go through and work out what you have.
This can take months.
And if you are getting more data during that timea) You'll never catch up (a la San Fran Bridge paint job)b) You'll not know what to change to look for next (informed by what you're seeing in the data so far)so no opportunity cost is lost.At the moment, though there's not a winter's worth of analysis data volume created.
So that would be an opportunity cost and guess what?
They're running over the winter, like you said they should.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119659</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119103</id>
	<title>Re:I don't mean to nitpick...</title>
	<author>Nefarious Wheel</author>
	<datestamp>1243444260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll see your CEPLARN and raise you a FASOTRAGRABRUPAC.  Nothing like Navy acronyms, they sound like Ringworld proper names.<p>Hmm... so that's where he got them...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll see your CEPLARN and raise you a FASOTRAGRABRUPAC .
Nothing like Navy acronyms , they sound like Ringworld proper names.Hmm... so that 's where he got them.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll see your CEPLARN and raise you a FASOTRAGRABRUPAC.
Nothing like Navy acronyms, they sound like Ringworld proper names.Hmm... so that's where he got them...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28119097</id>
	<title>Re:So what will cause the delay next time?</title>
	<author>Tanman</author>
	<datestamp>1243444260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, so far, your memory seems to be correct.  Has it started running yet or is it still being re-cooled or re-heated or re-blasted or re-started or whatever it is I always seem to re-read about articles regarding the LHC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , so far , your memory seems to be correct .
Has it started running yet or is it still being re-cooled or re-heated or re-blasted or re-started or whatever it is I always seem to re-read about articles regarding the LHC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, so far, your memory seems to be correct.
Has it started running yet or is it still being re-cooled or re-heated or re-blasted or re-started or whatever it is I always seem to re-read about articles regarding the LHC.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118647</id>
	<title>Re:How they''ll be paying for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243439460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As if they had to threaten Obama for the free handout...</htmltext>
<tokenext>As if they had to threaten Obama for the free handout.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As if they had to threaten Obama for the free handout...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28118539</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_27_2232237.28122439</id>
	<title>Re:British capitalization of acronyms</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1243519740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The worst abuse of this by the BBC (not the Bbc, note) is that they capitalise PC (as in, Police Constable) as Pc in headlines.  It's possibly understandable to do this for real acronyms (i.e. abbreviations that are words) but doing it for initialisms like this is both ugly and wrong according to every English grammar and typography book that I've read.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The worst abuse of this by the BBC ( not the Bbc , note ) is that they capitalise PC ( as in , Police Constable ) as Pc in headlines .
It 's possibly understandable to do this for real acronyms ( i.e .
abbreviations that are words ) but doing it for initialisms like this is both ugly and wrong according to every English grammar and typography book that I 've read .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The worst abuse of this by the BBC (not the Bbc, note) is that they capitalise PC (as in, Police Constable) as Pc in headlines.
It's possibly understandable to do this for real acronyms (i.e.
abbreviations that are words) but doing it for initialisms like this is both ugly and wrong according to every English grammar and typography book that I've read.</sentencetext>
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